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August 31, 2023, 07:03:48 PM
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Newcastle United get in a toughest group but it is more than a nightmare for them. They did not expect to be in such group. PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle United will have to beat each other to get only two tickets to go next.
Newcastle are now in a high guts test group of teams that will face big teams but of you might underestimate it? For me, no. See later Newcastle can bring a more interesting game even Milan can not move when meeting each other.

Just an assumption, but now I like Newcastle's game.  Grin

Maybe this is what is expected, but who says it will be eliminated soon because they have a great and solid squad now in the hands of Eddie Howe.
Prove that Newcastle can move on from this group.

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August 31, 2023, 07:10:47 PM
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It seems that the entire group stage exists only for the sake of us seeing one interesting group:

Group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle

This is a real group of death and here from the first round there will be a battle not for life but for death. The rest of the groups look like jokes compared to this one. Well, in principle, it's very good: in other groups you can watch when the first and second teams play each other (like Bayern vs United), but here all the games will be good.

It's a death group, okay, but this group is within reach.

Dortmund is no longer the same as when it had Sancho and Haaland, and the last time Newcastle qualified for the Champions League was the 2003/04 season.
The only team that can hurt PSG is AC Milan.
And I think PSG and AC Milan will advance to the next round.
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August 31, 2023, 07:13:45 PM
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I am obviously not happy aboit this draw due to some certain things. I am a fan of England teams and I have been having a great affection for Newcastle but I am just surprised to see a deadly fixture for them.
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This is not a good draw for a club that first appeared in the Champions League recently. This means that Newcastle might not qualify from the group stage of this year's Champions league. Just sad

It seems like Group F is the one that attracts my attention the most in this group phase, I'm not even sure which team will qualify for the next phase. AC Milan has made quite interesting progress so far, especially when they brought in new arrivals in this summer's transfer window.
As for Dortmund, this team cannot be underestimated, in fact they could have surprises. Even though in two matches in their domestic league, Dortmund did not play with their best performance.
PSG, is the most interesting part.
I want to know how Luis Enrique carries his team's squad when they play their matches in the Champions League. the reason is, their opponent is not an easy team to overthrow.
Newcastle, which is hard for us to guess. even though they have just returned to competing in this league, we cannot yet confirm how they will play their matches in this group phase. I think either way, they have a pretty good team. Let's see how they will face their opponents, and at the same time test the mentality of Eddie Howe's squad.

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August 31, 2023, 07:19:41 PM
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At least in the group stage you can trust and let the newcomer prove himself, because Barcelona are not in the most difficult group, you can even experiment a little. Although there is also La Liga for that, so as not to take risks in such a tournament, especially for Barcelona this season it is very important. So far I see that Barcelona can definitely get out of the group, maybe even reach the quarter-finals, and then it all depends on the opponent
Basically, almost all groups look easy to become top of the standings for some of Europe's top teams, except for group F. Barcelona is fortunate to get relatively easier opponents this season, but I don't really dare to guarantee they can qualify easily and lead Group H in the end.

All teams can be surprised that Barcelona still has the possibility of failing to reach the last 16 if all the opposing teams are really able to make it difficult for Barcelona to win the match. I agree Barcelona are favorites in Group H, but that's not a guarantee to see them through easily to the next round.

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August 31, 2023, 07:20:36 PM
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I am obviously not happy aboit this draw due to some certain things. I am a fan of England teams and I have been having a great affection for Newcastle but I am just surprised to see a deadly fixture for them.
PSG
Dortmund
AC Millan
Newcastle
This is not a good draw for a club that first appeared in the Champions League recently. This means that Newcastle might not qualify from the group stage of this year's Champions league. Just sad

It seems like Group F is the one that attracts my attention the most in this group phase, I'm not even sure which team will qualify for the next phase. AC Milan has made quite interesting progress so far, especially when they brought in new arrivals in this summer's transfer window.
As for Dortmund, this team cannot be underestimated, in fact they could have surprises. Even though in two matches in their domestic league, Dortmund did not play with their best performance.
PSG, is the most interesting part.
I want to know how Luis Enrique carries his team's squad when they play their matches in the Champions League. the reason is, their opponent is not an easy team to overthrow.
Newcastle, which is hard for us to guess. even though they have just returned to competing in this league, we cannot yet confirm how they will play their matches in this group phase. I think either way, they have a pretty good team. Let's see how they will face their opponents, and at the same time test the mentality of Eddie Howe's squad.


I think Milan can show the best performances with these teams, obviously it's a very difficult group, the slightest mistake could cost you dearly. Unfortunately there are no low-level teams in this group, but they are all of the same level and I'm sure they will put on a show in every match in group F


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August 31, 2023, 08:06:47 PM
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I've just seen the draw
The most difficult group of all seems to be group F of course, but I need mention here, as in World Cups, the groups of death, usually don't turn out as expected
But anyone in F will struggle, all four clubs have a chance of qualifying
Group F looks like the toughest group on paper because the teams in the groups are popular and have a lot of Champions League experience except Newcastle United, who just qualified for the Champions League. I think it will be a battle in the group because Newcastle will not be easy to eliminate even though those teams are popular.

Basically, Dortmund, Milan, and PSG are not in their best form because all these teams lose some players, especially PSG and Dortmund. Therefore,  I don’t think Newcastle United should be underrated because they can surprise us with amazing performances in the group stage, just as they did last season to secure the Champions League spot.

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Man City did well in a theoretically weaker group and have all conditions to end with the best campaign

Manchester City will surely lead group G because they don’t have any strong teams to challenge them in the group. The only competition that will be in the group will be between Young Boys and Crvena Zvezba when fighting for the Europa League spot because Leipzig will try and follow Manchester City to the round of 16.

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Group B seems to be the most balanced
Yes, the group is balanced because anyone can qualify, even though Arsenal stand a better chance of leading the group ahead of Sevilla.

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Group C will also have 2 interesting games with Napoli vs Real Madrid
These two teams will qualify for the round of 16 because they have good and experienced players over other teams; Real Madrid, on the other hand, can top the group because I believe they can beat Napoli.

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August 31, 2023, 08:18:40 PM
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Newcastle United get in a toughest group but it is more than a nightmare for them. They did not expect to be in such group. PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle United will have to beat each other to get only two tickets to go next.
Newcastle are now in a high guts test group of teams that will face big teams but of you might underestimate it? For me, no. See later Newcastle can bring a more interesting game even Milan can not move when meeting each other.

Just an assumption, but now I like Newcastle's game.  Grin

Maybe this is what is expected, but who says it will be eliminated soon because they have a great and solid squad now in the hands of Eddie Howe.
Prove that Newcastle can move on from this group.

The Pressure from the Premier League and now from the Champions League I will want to see how they finally go or what they achieve when the season comes to conclusion next year.
They are located in hell the toughest group in the Champions League.
Milan has brought in quality players who have a very good start of the season their hopes of winning the Champions League should be active this season after the signings.

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August 31, 2023, 08:19:36 PM
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borussia dortmund got a super tough group. AC Milan,Paris Saint-Germain and Newcastle United FC .
but if you want to get through to the next round you have to beat all the teams . here are the complete groups


source: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/    

Well, this is a pretty good group stage draw and seeing as Dortmund's chances of qualifying are very slim here. Meanwhile, if we look at group A, Manchester United will be accompanied by Bayern Munich and in group B there will be last season's European League champions, Sevilla, who will be accompanied by Arsenal. Apart from that, in Group C there is the defending Scudetto champion Napoli who will be in the same group as the king of the champions league, Real Madrid. There is also a treble winner last season, Manchester City, who will still be accompanied by Leipzig. I think those are just a few of the teams that are favored enough to qualify for the knockout rounds. However, if you look at Group H, which is filled with Barcelona and several non-seeded teams, if Barcelona still can't qualify, that would be outrageous.

I would 100% agree that this doesn't look very good for Dortmund, but they have had surprising performances when they play at home. Maybe that is the one chance they have, to win their home games. But the group is difficult in general. For every team this is not an easy one. I can't tell who the favorite is to win the group. AC Milan is certainly no worse than Newcastle or PSG in this very moment. But we will see how the teams will develop over the coming weeks. What would the guesses here be from you guys regarding this group from #1 to #4?

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August 31, 2023, 08:22:17 PM
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I am obviously not happy aboit this draw due to some certain things. I am a fan of England teams and I have been having a great affection for Newcastle but I am just surprised to see a deadly fixture for them.
PSG
Dortmund
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Newcastle
This is not a good draw for a club that first appeared in the Champions League recently. This means that Newcastle might not qualify from the group stage of this year's Champions league. Just sad

It seems like Group F is the one that attracts my attention the most in this group phase, I'm not even sure which team will qualify for the next phase. AC Milan has made quite interesting progress so far, especially when they brought in new arrivals in this summer's transfer window.
As for Dortmund, this team cannot be underestimated, in fact they could have surprises. Even though in two matches in their domestic league, Dortmund did not play with their best performance.
PSG, is the most interesting part.
I want to know how Luis Enrique carries his team's squad when they play their matches in the Champions League. the reason is, their opponent is not an easy team to overthrow.
Newcastle, which is hard for us to guess. even though they have just returned to competing in this league, we cannot yet confirm how they will play their matches in this group phase. I think either way, they have a pretty good team. Let's see how they will face their opponents, and at the same time test the mentality of Eddie Howe's squad.

I don't know how your believe is in the Newcastle team,but I can say I have a lot of trust and faith in that team,infact,they are the only team I'm very scared of in England at the moment,and them having a draw against the big teams in Europe,I know quite well that Newcastle can win AC Milan,they can also win PSG because there is no Neymar,and Messi in that team anymore,so why are you scared?I believe so much  in their abilities,and that fear factor cannot make me lose my faith and believe in a team that qualified for top four last season.They are a tough side that can win any opponent that comes their way.I am really interested in seeing them play against these big teams.

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It's a death group, okay, but this group is within reach.

Dortmund is no longer the same as when it had Sancho and Haaland, and the last time Newcastle qualified for the Champions League was the 2003/04 season.
The only team that can hurt PSG is AC Milan.
And I think PSG and AC Milan will advance to the next round.

This is certainly a group of Death and is out of reach I would say. Both Dortmund and Newcastle you think will go out are not small teams. In fact base on the current squad I rate the four clubs on similar criteria. Dortmund without Halaand and Sancho last season almost won the Bundesliga and were eliminated at the 16s, so which such momentum they will certainly cause the other clubs problem. Newcastle are not just new comers in fact they have a champions league history better than PSG. Last season they performed well and came on to qualify with almost every one doubting them. This season they have added exciting players and do not look like just spectators here. Ac Milan were not the team they were last season after their elimination from the semifinals but have also sign players. PSG on the other hand are the team in crisis after there star players left and virtually all their players are new, the leader of this pack that could cause problems would have been Mbappe and it doesn’t seem that he has all his heart at the club currently.

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Feels like Haaland will be able to score 100 goals in the group stages with that draw. The fact that latest champions has one of the weakest groups does make it fun to watch those games. I am not sure if we will even be allowed to bet on their games, like that one team with difficult to say name, whoever they are, City may end up beating them with like 5+ goals if they want to, we all know they probably won't because they try to score and get ahead with a few goals and then lay back, but they are capable of it at least.

One thing I need to make sure is that we should not be really considering this situation to be any different, it is really not that big of a deal, I will just bet on over/under for their games instead.

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August 31, 2023, 08:45:39 PM
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@Oneandpure while many people will not consider Newcastle to win and progress ahead I feel that they can stun everyone and beat these favourites because they’re playing very well and underestimating them will be a big mistake. Furthermore PSG isn’t ready yet as a team and Dortmund have also shown at times to choke and lose hence Newcastle must fancy their chances of qualifying from this group.
All of us mostly have a same feelling about Newcastle, they will not thinking about a champion title for now. Because currently they are underdog team in UCL. The most important things for them is, experience. Newcastle have money, but doesn't have experience in UCL, its mean nothing. So, I believe, this season they will have a target to go to the next round, at least. Next season if they are qualified again, that will be a time to build a team to compete for UCL title.

The Newcastle team is not thinking about the Champions League title. But they will definitely want to qualify for the knockout round. And I think they will try their best to play in round of 16. The Newcastle team is pretty stable. Overall performance of their team is very good. But experienced and star players are very few in the team. The team needed experienced players in the squad to do well in a competitive platform like the Champions League. However, Newcastle coach Eddie Howe is an excellent coach. He is very hardworking and tactful. And so I think the Newcastle team will be able to maintain the consistency of performance in the Champions League. and qualify for the knockout round.

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Feels like Haaland will be able to score 100 goals in the group stages with that draw. The fact that latest champions has one of the weakest groups does make it fun to watch those games. I am not sure if we will even be allowed to bet on their games, like that one team with difficult to say name, whoever they are, City may end up beating them with like 5+ goals if they want to, we all know they probably won't because they try to score and get ahead with a few goals and then lay back, but they are capable of it at least.

One thing I need to make sure is that we should not be really considering this situation to be any different, it is really not that big of a deal, I will just bet on over/under for their games instead.

Man City has an easy group and i think they will pass it easily. Haaland has a perfect chance to score against some really weak teams. I think he might score 8+ goals in the group faze. This might be really his year to score 15+ goals at least in the champions league this year.

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Newcastle United get in a toughest group but it is more than a nightmare for them. They did not expect to be in such group. PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle United will have to beat each other to get only two tickets to go next.
Newcastle are now in a high guts test group of teams that will face big teams but of you might underestimate it? For me, no. See later Newcastle can bring a more interesting game even Milan can not move when meeting each other.

Just an assumption, but now I like Newcastle's game.  Grin

Maybe this is what is expected, but who says it will be eliminated soon because they have a great and solid squad now in the hands of Eddie Howe.
Prove that Newcastle can move on from this group.
Newcastle's performance since Eddie Howe took over the managerial position of the club has significantly improved and despite the very difficult group they've found themselves in, I'm very much optimistic that the club can make it out of the group stages of this season's UEFA Champions League competition.
Regardless of the fact that this will be their first appearance in the competition since the 2002/03 season, Newcastle I think have the ability to qualify ahead of Borussia Dortmund and Italian club AC Milan. Paris Saint Germaine will definitely make it to the next round and are the favourites to win that group.

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August 31, 2023, 09:10:31 PM
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It's likely barcelona gonna face arsenal. There are some clubs that have become my concerns now, especially barcelona. This club always could not go to the play off.
barcelona was always failed in passing the group stage. Xavi will be coming with so many changes in the new squad. It's pretty interesting to see barcelona to play in UCL soon.
What is certain is that we only have to wait a few more hours before the draw is made.
The 32 clubs are now complete and we're just waiting to see how the draw is made.
Last season Barcelona didn't get a good group which saw them eliminated in the group stage it seems they are hoping this time is easier than before because when they were in a difficult group again even though Barcelona have changed for the better still the skepticism towards Xavi who led Barcelona to fail to pass the group stage for the last 2 seasons makes this complicated.
Barcelona will once again await its fate during the draw for the Champions League group stage. The five-time UCL champion is indeed in pot 1 but it's not certain that they will get an easy opponent but it could make them return to the group of hell like last season, how come Xavi Hernandez will still be a strong opponent who comes from pot 2 like Manchester United , Arsenal, Borussia Dortmund and Inter Milan. Then in pot 3 there is AC Milan and Newcastle in pot 4. If the draw results again fall into a strong group then Xavi has the potential to move down again to the Europa League.

But I have another record for Barca this season, for this season the Blaugrana seem to have found their true level of play again. Xavi has really done quite a good job so far and this has been proven by him last season by successfully winning back the La Liga title. For their chances in UCL this season, I predict they will go far.
Now they will breathe a little easier because this time they will be in a relatively easy group because they are in group H with FC Porto, Shaktar Donetsk, Royal Antwerp. This is a good opportunity for them because seeing the opponents in the group phase is actually favorable for them and it would be a shame if they had to be eliminated again in the group phase in this relatively easy group.
On the other hand, we can again see the hell group in the group stage this time. Group F is filled with big clubs and even all clubs that can be said to be very big now. Paris Saint-Germain, Borussia Dortmund, AC Milan and Newcastle United. I can't wait to see them fight now. Even though Newcastle can be said to be a dark horse because they have just returned to this competition but with their current strength Newcastle cannot be underestimated.

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Newcastle United get in a toughest group but it is more than a nightmare for them. They did not expect to be in such group. PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle United will have to beat each other to get only two tickets to go next.
Newcastle are now in a high guts test group of teams that will face big teams but of you might underestimate it? For me, no. See later Newcastle can bring a more interesting game even Milan can not move when meeting each other.

Just an assumption, but now I like Newcastle's game.  Grin

Maybe this is what is expected, but who says it will be eliminated soon because they have a great and solid squad now in the hands of Eddie Howe.
Prove that Newcastle can move on from this group.
What's interesting for group F is that they are strong teams there like AC milan, Dortmund, PSG and Newcastle United. But for Newcastle United, it's like falling into the hell group in the Champions League this season because Newcastle United are directly faced with big teams from other leagues, which makes them have to try their best to be able to win every game they play.

In addition, Tonali will again face Ac milan in the Champions League this season. As we see it is a big reunion after he left Ac milan in this season's transfer window. I believe ac milan fans will welcome him well when he arrives in another jersey at the san siro stadium.

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August 31, 2023, 09:18:44 PM
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I don't know how your believe is in the Newcastle team,but I can say I have a lot of trust and faith in that team,infact,they are the only team I'm very scared of in England at the moment,and them having a draw against the big teams in Europe,I know quite well that Newcastle can win AC Milan,they can also win PSG because there is no Neymar,and Messi in that team anymore,so why are you scared?I believe so much  in their abilities,and that fear factor cannot make me lose my faith and believe in a team that qualified for top four last season.They are a tough side that can win any opponent that comes their way.I am really interested in seeing them play against these big teams.
Truth be told the departure of those players you mentioned from their various clubs have cost a lot of gap in those clubs and I am sure this are the reason why many of the stronger top clubs face a lot of pressure on some occasions, the ultimate goal for the clubs is to win and anything outside of that is already out of the game plans and Newcastle united haven't experienced champions league in last few season knows better how to fixed they players to place them in a better position to delivers goals on any given opportunities.

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August 31, 2023, 09:26:11 PM
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It seems that the entire group stage exists only for the sake of us seeing one interesting group:

Group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle

This is a real group of death and here from the first round there will be a battle not for life but for death. The rest of the groups look like jokes compared to this one. Well, in principle, it's very good: in other groups you can watch when the first and second teams play each other (like Bayern vs United), but here all the games will be good.

It's a death group, okay, but this group is within reach.

Dortmund is no longer the same as when it had Sancho and Haaland, and the last time Newcastle qualified for the Champions League was the 2003/04 season.
The only team that can hurt PSG is AC Milan.
And I think PSG and AC Milan will advance to the next round.

You probably forgot to look at the composition of other groups? Name me at least one that would be at least a little close in terms of the average level (without pronounced favorites and underdogs)? You can even take last season if you want. I don't have time to dig deep right now, but I think this is the most interesting group in years. Groups of three interesting teams are obtained quite often (for example, Bayern - Inter - Barcelona last year), but here there are four of them at once.

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August 31, 2023, 09:26:48 PM
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Newcastle United get in a toughest group but it is more than a nightmare for them. They did not expect to be in such group. PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle United will have to beat each other to get only two tickets to go next.
Newcastle are now in a high guts test group of teams that will face big teams but of you might underestimate it? For me, no. See later Newcastle can bring a more interesting game even Milan can not move when meeting each other.

Just an assumption, but now I like Newcastle's game.  Grin

Maybe this is what is expected, but who says it will be eliminated soon because they have a great and solid squad now in the hands of Eddie Howe.
Prove that Newcastle can move on from this group.
What's interesting for group F is that they are strong teams there like AC milan, Dortmund, PSG and Newcastle United. But for Newcastle United, it's like falling into the hell group in the Champions League this season because Newcastle United are directly faced with big teams from other leagues, which makes them have to try their best to be able to win every game they play.

In addition, Tonali will again face Ac milan in the Champions League this season. As we see it is a big reunion after he left Ac milan in this season's transfer window. I believe ac milan fans will welcome him well when he arrives in another jersey at the san siro stadium.

The teams in this group are for me evenly matched. Probobly the toughest group this season in the champions league. Newcastle is the main favorite to pass the group from my side of view. PSG will struggle a lot this season and will fight hard for that second place in the group. Milan also is looking solid so i think they have a slight chance to do something.

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August 31, 2023, 09:30:54 PM
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Atletico Madrid and Manchester City are in the easiest groups to qualify for the next round of the competition as they are both the dominating soccer force in the groups. Napoli with Victor Osimhen will play Real Madrid and that makes that group too another interesting group to see.
From Group A, I predict Manchester United and Bayern to qualify,
Group B, I predict Arsenal and Sevilla to qualify,
Group C, I predict Napoli and Madrid,
in Group D, I predict Benfica and Inter Milan,
for Group E, Atletico Madrid and Lazio,
Group F, PSG and Milan
Group  G, Manchester City and Leipzig,
Group H, Barcelona and Porto.

We may be surprised by the outcome of the results from some groups, but basically with my predictions, that is how I expect the group stages to end.

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