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September 10, 2023, 04:54:17 PM
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If Manchester United can certainly lose when playing against Bayern Munich, then Manchester United should be able to get a victory when playing against Galatasaray and Copenhagen. Because only then, it will make Manchester United have a chance to become runner up and qualify for the round of 16. But yes, if Manchester United cannot consistently beat Galatasaray and Copenhagen, then Manchester United maybe lose their chance to qualify. But regarding Bayern Munich, after all I personally believe Bayern Munich has a good chance to even qualify to the semifinals or maybe even to the final. who knows.
Man United will face Bayern Munchen in the opening match in the group phase, this will be very difficult for Ten Hag squad. Because everyone is sure that Munchen can win the match, because United situation is not yet completely stable. Talking about squad depth, the Reds Devils squad is actually not inferior to the squad owned by Bayern Munchen. However, they have not been consistent in the EPL, making them not at the top.

If Ten Hag fails to bring Man United through to the group phase, it would be a shame. Because Galatasaray and Copenhagen are clubs that on paper are very easy for them to beat, while Munchen remains the favorite to win the group.

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September 10, 2023, 05:09:18 PM
Last edit: September 11, 2023, 01:50:57 AM by Swordsoffreedom
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Manchester United first match in the UCL it was against Bayern Munich, I'm not too sure Manchester United can get points in that match even if it's only one, considering that Ten Hag squad  in several away matches in the EPL their performance has drop. Bayern Munich, which this season has improved in defensive line and attack line, will make it very difficult for Ten Hag to think of the perfect tactics in that match. Even, Bookie currently gives odds for Bayern @1.59 while for Manchester United @5.20, in that match Bayern Munich is the favorite to win.
This first trip to the Allianz Arena is quite difficult for Manchester United to win there.
If the difference from the odds is very far maybe because of the difference in their performance, one of which is Erik Ten Hag's team which is said to be inconsistent, this Champion League sometimes has different games, but with the appearance in the PL it will not be much different.
I haven't checked the betting markets yet as it's still a week away there could be a slight change from the bookies with the odds increasing.
Attending the Allianz Arena will be a challenge for Manchester United. Few teams have won in that fortress. If memory serves, Real Madrid may be the only team with a strong record there. I don't think Manchester United has no chance, but Erik Ten Hag's leadership has been inconsistent. I'm no betting expert, but I think you should watch the odds. They may alter closer to match day. Manchester United could win, but the Allianz Arena's intimidating atmosphere may be a factor

First of all Bayern Munich are in good form right now, you know they are performing very well as a team in Bundesliga. It seems the team is now very stable and their performance is consistent. Secondly you know this match is Bayern Munich's home match and it is well known that they are very strong at their home. And thirdly Manchester United are not in good form now, their performance is just erratic. While performing well against weaker teams in the premier league, Manchester United's performance against the big teams is very poor.  I can see they even failed to win against Tottenham and Arsenal.  In such a situation the possibility of Manchester United defeating a big team like Bayern Munich is very low.

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September 10, 2023, 05:36:22 PM
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Yes Bayern Munich with the transfer of Harry Kane are again a very good team an a contender, they were lacking a striker after the departure of Lewandowski to Barcelona.

With Kane and Gnabry, Sane Davies at full speed they can do a lot of damage, plus Muller and Goretzka who allways find the way to reach the goal.

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September 10, 2023, 05:49:54 PM
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Yes Bayern Munich with the transfer of Harry Kane are again a very good team an a contender, they were lacking a striker after the departure of Lewandowski to Barcelona.

With Kane and Gnabry, Sane Davies at full speed they can do a lot of damage, plus Muller and Goretzka who allways find the way to reach the goal.
Its dominance in the Bundesliga is unshakable even without Lewandowski, Munchen can still finish in first place at the end of the season. Harry Kane was brought in to be able to compete at Champions League level, we know that last season Munchen only reached the quarter-finals. Munchen lost when competing with Man City, Kane arrival could make them stronger this season.

When you look at the depth of Thomas Tuchel squad this season, it is fitting that they become one of the favorite clubs. In the Group A phase, perhaps only Man United is the toughest opponent.

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September 10, 2023, 05:58:49 PM
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If Manchester United can certainly lose when playing against Bayern Munich, then Manchester United should be able to get a victory when playing against Galatasaray and Copenhagen. Because only then, it will make Manchester United have a chance to become runner up and qualify for the round of 16. But yes, if Manchester United cannot consistently beat Galatasaray and Copenhagen, then Manchester United maybe lose their chance to qualify. But regarding Bayern Munich, after all I personally believe Bayern Munich has a good chance to even qualify to the semifinals or maybe even to the final. who knows.
Man United must be careful with Galatasaray because they have players like Hakim Ziyech, Mauro Icardi and several other former European players. In fact, it is possible that if they are careless, Galatasaray could beat Man United or even Bayern Munich.

I also realistically see that Bayern Munich winning the Group and Man United being runners-up in Group A is a very good thing. However, on condition that Man United has to improve, if it doesn't improve then Galatasaray has a big chance of overtaking them in second place. How could it not be, if you look at the last four matches, Man United played very badly and even then, in my opinion, they won because of luck and situations that benefited Man United alone.

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September 10, 2023, 06:23:07 PM
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Arsenal first match in this competition and they will fight against PSV and this is very interesting because both teams have been met last year on Europa league and both teams have defeated each other which mean PSV can be considers as tough opponent for Arsenal especially PSV performance were increase rapidly because since July PSV has fantastic achievement and since that month PSV has through 11 matches with unbeatable status in all competitions and before they advances to the group stage PSV has been done a good job because they can able to eliminate Rangers with total aggregate 7-2 so although Arsenal is the favourite in this match but PSV cannot be underestimate because they have a potention to make Arsenal get in trouble

Arsenal still came out first in their group stage of Europa League while PSV follow suit after they played the play off but were drop out and Arsenal proceeded until the knockout stage. However, what I fear is what PSV did to get to the Champions League this season, they had an incredible performance in the playoff again and got into the group B, those goals aren't the type for Novice and seeing how they are also toping their domestic league makes me doubt how Arsenal is going to win them, more work need to be done to win this match.

If things get worse, I just have this believe fr Arsenal and PSV to make it out of the group B even if they win each other, they can still recover with rest of the remaining team to proceed out time group stage but were I think main problem will arise is in that knockout stage, it's going to be shoulder for shoulder match.

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Arsenal first match in this competition and they will fight against PSV and this is very interesting because both teams have been met last year on Europa league and both teams have defeated each other which mean PSV can be considers as tough opponent for Arsenal especially PSV performance were increase rapidly because since July PSV has fantastic achievement and since that month PSV has through 11 matches with unbeatable status in all competitions and before they advances to the group stage PSV has been done a good job because they can able to eliminate Rangers with total aggregate 7-2 so although Arsenal is the favourite in this match but PSV cannot be underestimate because they have a potention to make Arsenal get in trouble

Although it is not right to compare last year with this year, I agree that it will be a difficult double match for both teams. PSV may have a chance in the Netherlands, but I can't imagine this Arsenal losing in England. I think Arsenal will win both games. I think Arteta will focus more on success in Europe this year.

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September 10, 2023, 07:57:08 PM
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Arsenal first match in this competition and they will fight against PSV and this is very interesting because both teams have been met last year on Europa league and both teams have defeated each other which mean PSV can be considers as tough opponent for Arsenal especially PSV performance were increase rapidly because since July PSV has fantastic achievement and since that month PSV has through 11 matches with unbeatable status in all competitions and before they advances to the group stage PSV has been done a good job because they can able to eliminate Rangers with total aggregate 7-2 so although Arsenal is the favourite in this match but PSV cannot be underestimate because they have a potention to make Arsenal get in trouble
The match between Arsenal and PSV will be a tough one indeed because PSV has improved in football over the years and they have been improving. In the other hand Arsenal has improved so much that they can be able to beat any football team in the world on their normal day. Arsenal has improved so so much and even in the English Premier league they have all it takes to win the English Premier especially as they have improved their squad depth.

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September 10, 2023, 08:12:51 PM
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Because in this case he has his own way of doing the match and their goal is victory regardless of how the tactics they show, they don't really care about that.

For us football lovers it's not interesting but for Simeone and Atletico who are the players as long as they get good results then they will definitely do the same.
Actually looking at the group conditions, they should be favorites and more able to play more freely in the group phase but it depends on Simeone whether they will try a high dominance style or a bus parking scheme with full defense after scoring a goal and making the match less interesting to watch.

for me they are the favorites to win the group, whether they play defense or counter-attack it makes little difference, Lazio, Feyenoord and Celtic don't see them strong enough to compete for first place! it will certainly be a very balanced group, especially to compete for the second place available for the round of 16. but we would have better certainties at the end of the first round
As I said, they are definitely the favorites but it would be great if they tried to implement a better scheme instead of just continuing to park the bus because looking at the current conditions they benefit because the group is filled with balanced strength and not too strong.

As for Celtic and Feyenoord this will not be easy for them, in terms of popularity, Feyenoord and Celtic are below Lazio and Atletico but indeed they still have the opportunity to compete for runner up and even if they fail the 3rd position they can still grab.
I think that when they have the opportunity to play in an away game, Feyenoord and Celtic must try to steal points first or they can hold a draw first. That is the right strategy rather than parking the bus in the opponent's cage. After that, Feyenoord and Celtic were able to go all out when the match was held at their respective home grounds. I think this way it will make it difficult for top teams like Lazio and Atletico to get full points. So at least it can increase the probability that one of the teams from Feyenoord and Celtic can become runners up. But still it won't be so easy.

Feyenord is the only team that can worry Lazio and try to steal second place, unfortunately the Dutch teams are very unbalanced in defense, so placing a bus in front of the goal could be useful but they must be able to resist because if they concede goals it is easy for them to lose the match too. As an Italian, I will cheer for the Italian teams in the Champions League, but obviously if a non-Italian team deserves to go through, I will congratulate them! for now I think we can only make assumptions about who will pass or not! if I had to take current performances into account I would say that Lazio, given the terrible start to the championship, would have little chance of going through

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There is no doubt that Bayern Munich will be at the top of the table. This group is very strong now. At the same time, Bayern Munich is among the most favorite teams in this year's Champions League. The team has the most chances to win the title. Manchester United is not a weak team. But their performance is very erratic. The team is not playing well consistently. I haven't seen a good performance from the team in the Premier League either.

Most times we always compare a team’s performance in the domestic league to that of the premier to conclude how well they can perform in the champions league. This is true but sometimes it does not always go like that, teams might be underperforming in the domestic league and still show better performance in the champions league. I feel it is because of how important and competitive this league is as compared to the domestic league. Manchester United performance in the UCL should not be based of their current performance in the premier league.

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The Copenhagen team is relatively weak. And I would say that qualifying for the Champions League is the biggest achievement of the Copenhagen team. I don't expect a very good performance from this team in the Champions League. However, its performance at Galatasaray cannot be predicted. The team is quite strong this season. They have several talented players in the squad. So I'd say the battle for second place in the points table will basically be between Manchester United and Galatasaray.

We don’t have to speculate too much for the team that will make it out of this group stage. It is very clear that Bayern Munich and Manchester United will make it to the knockout stage of the competition while Galatasaray will play in the Europa league and Copenhagen will be eliminated from the competition because of their low experience and relatively weak squad to play in that competition.

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Arsenal first match in this competition and they will fight against PSV and this is very interesting because both teams have been met last year on Europa league and both teams have defeated each other which mean PSV can be considers as tough opponent for Arsenal especially PSV performance were increase rapidly because since July PSV has fantastic achievement and since that month PSV has through 11 matches with unbeatable status in all competitions and before they advances to the group stage PSV has been done a good job because they can able to eliminate Rangers with total aggregate 7-2 so although Arsenal is the favourite in this match but PSV cannot be underestimate because they have a potention to make Arsenal get in trouble

PSV is not a favorite against Arsenal, especially if Arsenal plays at home. Arsenal have performed well at the start of this season even though they have also struggled to win their last 4 matches in the Premier League. This will be a good match for both of them considering their meeting record in the last 4 Champions League matches. Arsenal and PSV both have 1 win and 2 draws and 1 loss each, so this will be a tough match for both.

In the last 6 matches, Arsenal Win 2, Draw 2, Lose 2, while the results are the same for PSV Eindhoven; Win 2, Draw 2, Lose 2 and that's the record that makes this match look fierce. I'm sure Arsenal can win their home game, but it's not good to underestimate PSV.

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September 10, 2023, 09:17:41 PM
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Arsenal first match in this competition and they will fight against PSV and this is very interesting because both teams have been met last year on Europa league and both teams have defeated each other which mean PSV can be considers as tough opponent for Arsenal especially PSV performance were increase rapidly because since July PSV has fantastic achievement and since that month PSV has through 11 matches with unbeatable status in all competitions and before they advances to the group stage PSV has been done a good job because they can able to eliminate Rangers with total aggregate 7-2 so although Arsenal is the favourite in this match but PSV cannot be underestimate because they have a potention to make Arsenal get in trouble

PSV is not a favorite against Arsenal, especially if Arsenal plays at home. Arsenal have performed well at the start of this season even though they have also struggled to win their last 4 matches in the Premier League. This will be a good match for both of them considering their meeting record in the last 4 Champions League matches. Arsenal and PSV both have 1 win and 2 draws and 1 loss each, so this will be a tough match for both.

Arsenal are playing with  a home advantage and are the bookies favourite to win the match, though alot of people feel they might find it tough winning PSV due to the current injury crisis they're facing in their defense line, i think Arteta has to be very tactical in that match because he's not playing against against a small Premier league team he'll give chances.
 PSV is one of the biggest team in the Eredivisie League and they've been consistent in qualifying for the Champions League over the years, also are doing very well in their league too, last season they finished second and are currently second in the league this season with 9 points, winning all their matches so far therefore they shouldn't be underestimated because they're capable of facing Arsenal and could suprisingly defeat them if Arteta doesn't strategies properly.

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In Group A, Manchester United and Bayern Munich are rated much higher than the other teams. It is usual for them to rank first and second in Group A.
Manchester United's 2023/24 Champions League group stage match schedule has been confirmed. Returning to the Champions League after a season of absence, Manchester United may have to visit Bayern Munich in the first match. The last time Bayern met Manchester United in an official game was in the quarterfinals of the Champions League in 2014, when Bayern Munich won 4-2. It was difficult for Manchester United in the first match.
However, Manchester United is still a force in world football. Erik ten Hag once worked at Bayern so it will be an exciting match.

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September 10, 2023, 09:33:57 PM
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As I said, they are definitely the favorites but it would be great if they tried to implement a better scheme instead of just continuing to park the bus because looking at the current conditions they benefit because the group is filled with balanced strength and not too strong.

As for Celtic and Feyenoord this will not be easy for them, in terms of popularity, Feyenoord and Celtic are below Lazio and Atletico but indeed they still have the opportunity to compete for runner up and even if they fail the 3rd position they can still grab.
I think that when they have the opportunity to play in an away game, Feyenoord and Celtic must try to steal points first or they can hold a draw first. That is the right strategy rather than parking the bus in the opponent's cage. After that, Feyenoord and Celtic were able to go all out when the match was held at their respective home grounds. I think this way it will make it difficult for top teams like Lazio and Atletico to get full points. So at least it can increase the probability that one of the teams from Feyenoord and Celtic can become runners up. But still it won't be so easy.
This can still happen but IMO it is not something that is easy to do because Lazio and Atletico are still a level above them in terms of strength and experience.
So when Feyenoord and Celtic try to appear aggressive in the match they are playing but it doesn't go well, then something like that will actually be detrimental to themselves because the impact will definitely affect other matches.
Unless they want to try to focus on the Champions League and hope to get through the group stages, it might be a little different in terms of seriousness.
At the moment I think it's still the same for the clubs with Lazio and Atletico through and Feyenoord in third place and back in the Europa League.

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September 10, 2023, 09:39:46 PM
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PSV is not a favorite against Arsenal, especially if Arsenal plays at home. Arsenal have performed well at the start of this season even though they have also struggled to win their last 4 matches in the Premier League. This will be a good match for both of them considering their meeting record in the last 4 Champions League matches. Arsenal and PSV both have 1 win and 2 draws and 1 loss each, so this will be a tough match for both.

In the champions league; there are no favorites in the group stage; anyone can beat anyone, anyone can defeat anyone. Also in the champions league; there is nothing like league form, you can be on a 20 game winning streak in your league; and get defeated in the champions league. Arsenal needs a top performance to compete in the champions league.
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Arsenal are playing with  a home advantage and are the bookies favourite to win the match, though alot of people feel they might find it tough winning PSV due to the current injury crisis they're facing in their defense line, i think Arteta has to be very tactical in that match because he's not playing against against a small Premier league team he'll give chances.
 PSV is one of the biggest team in the Eredivisie League and they've been consistent in qualifying for the Champions League over the years, also are doing very well in their league too, last season they finished second and are currently second in the league this season with 9 points, winning all their matches so far therefore they shouldn't be underestimated because they're capable of facing Arsenal and could suprisingly defeat them if Arteta doesn't strategies properly.
On paper, Arsenal are very favorites in this first leg. Moreover, Arsenal will be playing at home, of course that will be a positive value for them when the first leg starts. I'm sure Arteta is ready enough with the existing strengths and they will even try hard to put strong pressure on PSV in the first leg. I'm sure PSV will find it difficult to provide competition for Arsenal because Arsenal played quite impressively at home like when they beat Manchester United.

However, for PSV they had a sweet record last season when PSV beat Arsenal in the European league. Of course, this will give them confidence to provide stronger resistance. However, betting on Arsenal to win is still our favorite in this match.

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In Group A, Manchester United and Bayern Munich are rated much higher than the other teams. It is usual for them to rank first and second in Group A.
Manchester United's 2023/24 Champions League group stage match schedule has been confirmed. Returning to the Champions League after a season of absence, Manchester United may have to visit Bayern Munich in the first match. The last time Bayern met Manchester United in an official game was in the quarterfinals of the Champions League in 2014, when Bayern Munich won 4-2. It was difficult for Manchester United in the first match.
However, Manchester United is still a force in world football. Erik ten Hag once worked at Bayern so it will be an exciting match.
In Champions League Group A, there are two big teams, Bayern Munich and Manchester United. Since this group includes teams like Manchester United and Bayern Munich, it will be difficult for other teams to occupy the number one or two position in the table. In this group, Bayern Munich can be at the number one position and Manchester United at the number two position. The remaining two teams in Group A are not as strong as Manchester United or Bayern Munich. Maybe these two teams can fight against Bayern Munich or Manchester United but cannot win against these teams. So initially we can consider Bayern Munich and Manchester United as the first two teams from Group A.

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September 10, 2023, 09:54:56 PM
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Arsenal are playing with  a home advantage and are the bookies favourite to win the match, though alot of people feel they might find it tough winning PSV due to the current injury crisis they're facing in their defense line, i think Arteta has to be very tactical in that match because he's not playing against against a small Premier league team he'll give chances.
 PSV is one of the biggest team in the Eredivisie League and they've been consistent in qualifying for the Champions League over the years, also are doing very well in their league too, last season they finished second and are currently second in the league this season with 9 points, winning all their matches so far therefore they shouldn't be underestimated because they're capable of facing Arsenal and could suprisingly defeat them if Arteta doesn't strategies properly.
On paper, Arsenal are very favorites in this first leg. Moreover, Arsenal will be playing at home, of course that will be a positive value for them when the first leg starts. I'm sure Arteta is ready enough with the existing strengths and they will even try hard to put strong pressure on PSV in the first leg. I'm sure PSV will find it difficult to provide competition for Arsenal because Arsenal played quite impressively at home like when they beat Manchester United.

However, for PSV they had a sweet record last season when PSV beat Arsenal in the European league. Of course, this will give them confidence to provide stronger resistance. However, betting on Arsenal to win is still our favorite in this match.
In my opinion, the match in the Champions League will be difficult to predict even though Arsenal are the favorites, but their opponents will be able to provide strong resistance in the match. Because every team will play better in the Champions League compared to their game in the domestic league. Moreover, Arsenal have been absent from the Champions League for a long time so they need to play more carefully to be able to secure 3 points in the first match in the Champions League. The first leg match will still take place in about 10 days so all teams still have time to prepare their energy.

I am more interested in the matches in Group F compared to other groups. Where Ac Milan will meet Newcastle United in the first match of the group phase. I'm sure AC Milan had a good record in the previous season because they could easily advance to the round of 16. So they will be ready to beat Newcastle united at sansiro stadium.

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September 10, 2023, 09:55:25 PM
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Arsenal first match in this competition and they will fight against PSV and this is very interesting because both teams have been met last year on Europa league and both teams have defeated each other which mean PSV can be considers as tough opponent for Arsenal especially PSV performance were increase rapidly because since July PSV has fantastic achievement and since that month PSV has through 11 matches with unbeatable status in all competitions and before they advances to the group stage PSV has been done a good job because they can able to eliminate Rangers with total aggregate 7-2 so although Arsenal is the favourite in this match but PSV cannot be underestimate because they have a potention to make Arsenal get in trouble

PSV is not a favorite against Arsenal, especially if Arsenal plays at home. Arsenal have performed well at the start of this season even though they have also struggled to win their last 4 matches in the Premier League. This will be a good match for both of them considering their meeting record in the last 4 Champions League matches. Arsenal and PSV both have 1 win and 2 draws and 1 loss each, so this will be a tough match for both.

In the last 6 matches, Arsenal Win 2, Draw 2, Lose 2, while the results are the same for PSV Eindhoven; Win 2, Draw 2, Lose 2 and that's the record that makes this match look fierce. I'm sure Arsenal can win their home game, but it's not good to underestimate PSV.
With the information that you provided on the statistics of matches played between these two clubs PSG and Arsenal,it shows that in the past both clubs are strong and none of them have been superior over the other. This season,i dont think that it will be like that as there must be a winner these time,and i believ that Arsenal win have more advantage over PSG becaus ethey will be playing the match at Emirate stadium. I believe Arteta will come up with the best strategy to win this match since it is always easy to win at home than away.

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September 10, 2023, 09:56:15 PM
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In Group A, Manchester United and Bayern Munich are rated much higher than the other teams. It is usual for them to rank first and second in Group A.
Manchester United's 2023/24 Champions League group stage match schedule has been confirmed. Returning to the Champions League after a season of absence, Manchester United may have to visit Bayern Munich in the first match. The last time Bayern met Manchester United in an official game was in the quarterfinals of the Champions League in 2014, when Bayern Munich won 4-2. It was difficult for Manchester United in the first match.
However, Manchester United is still a force in world football. Erik ten Hag once worked at Bayern so it will be an exciting match.

Bayern Munich are the absolute favourite for finishing this group as the leader. When it comes to the second position Manchester United are favoured the most of course. On paper their quality is higher than Galatasaray and Copenhagen both. But still it is up to their performance level.

I haven't seen Manchester United good recently. They need to improve their current performance much more. Otherwise I don't think their job will be easy especially against Galatasaray for this position. Because the Turkish side has built a really solid squad with many quality transfers.

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