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September 17, 2023, 09:57:34 PM
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Indeed. Man United isn't in their best form, they are decreasing their performance. With this condition, it is difficult to win against Bayern Munich, especially the match will be held in Bayern home. Bayern Munich is in a good form lately, they also must play more aggressively to play at their home. I see no reason that Bayern Munich to get defeated by Man United.

Yes, Man United defense looks very weak recently. In the last 2 matches of EPL, they got 6 conceded goals. It is very bad for a big team like Man United. It is even worse than the previous season. Their attacking also didn't perform optimally after the absence of Antony.
Against Bayern Munich at the Allianz Arena stadium will be a big challenge for Manchester United in this match. Because the opponents they face are stronger in depth than them. I'm sure Manchester United will find it difficult to steal points at the Allianz Arena stadium because Bayern Munich will be quite difficult to beat in front of their supporters.

Moreover, the absence of several players will make Manchester United even less of a favorite in this match. However, all assumptions could change if Manchester United can play better in this match. It seems that their defense line is quite bad, in fact Onana wouldn't be able to block many shots if their defense line wasn't strong.

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September 17, 2023, 10:09:21 PM
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Few days later before opening match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United in Champion League have bad capital for United after losing in domestic league, I doubt with Manchester United will take first three points away against Bayern Munich due have quit well performance in domestic league. Bayern Munich's forward Harry Kane on confidence performance, he was scored 4 goals of 4 matches in domestic league and more confidence for facing Manchester United with poor performance and they don't have good striker right now. In domestic league, Manchester United have serious problem with defense position, until 5 matches they have conceded 10 goals and doubt with Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich will easily get points.

Seems more than 80% for Bayern Munich winning ratio and seems difficult for United keep fighting qualify to next round because still have another favorite team Galatasaray.
I also doubt Manchester United's performance at the moment but my thoughts sometimes turn to the question of whether a bad performance in the domestic league will affect the Champions League match? And if that is true, it seems like there is no longer any way for United to progress to the next round.
But if it turns out that suddenly in the domestic league they deliberately perform poorly and in the Champions League match their performance increases, this is really a thought beyond my reasoning but this also makes sense because sometimes a club does not perform well in the domestic league to physically prepare the players to qualify for the round. next steal points early.
For the opening match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United I will only bet a small amount because I still have doubts.

Exactly, this happened to but to he sincere, Manchester United has lost 2 good matches in a row to Arsenal and Brighton. On a normal ground when Manchester United was still in a Turbo mode, those two teams will not come close to where Manchester United are but look at how things have changed for bad. Now tell me, with this performance, do you really think they can use such performance to tackle Bayern Munich? It's a possible called but I really doubt them.

Despite the fact that Bayern draw to Leverkusen in their last match, the two teams are the still leading Bundesliga while Manchester United is sitting below top 10 from his domestic league. Even a non footballer will predict that Manchester United will definitely lost this one too if care is not taken.

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September 17, 2023, 11:18:42 PM
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Despite the fact that Bayern draw to Leverkusen in their last match, the two teams are the still leading Bundesliga while Manchester United is sitting below top 10 from his domestic league. Even a non footballer will predict that Manchester United will definitely lost this one too if care is not taken.
The champion's league is a different competition, we may see a different Manchester United with a renewed focus not to start that tournament with a poor record. Ten Hag faced criticism for removing their new striker from their last game, but since he was just returning from injury and will be needed in their Champions league game, he had to be kept safe. Manchester United would have had an advantage with Jadon Sancho who has an experience playing against Bayern and a German side since he had played there, but he will not also be in the team. Bayern Munich will also have to make sure about their defense because Manchester United can score too.

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September 17, 2023, 11:26:50 PM
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The champion's league is a different competition, we may see a different Manchester United with a renewed focus not to start that tournament with a poor record. Ten Hag faced criticism for removing their new striker from their last game, but since he was just returning from injury and will be needed in their Champions league game, he had to be kept safe. Manchester United would have had an advantage with Jadon Sancho who has an experience playing against Bayern and a German side since he had played there, but he will not also be in the team. Bayern Munich will also have to make sure about their defense because Manchester United can score too.
To be honest, with his recent results and the game of Manchester United, I had great doubts about the positive outcome for myself in the match with Bayern Munich, although more recently I urged not to exaggerate the advantage of the German club. Nevertheless, Bayern looks much more played at the moment and it does not have such problems with the composition as MU. On the other hand, ten Hag, through his work at Ajax, has taught everyone that he can achieve results and not with the top team by European standards, so Manchester United fans can only hope for this, remembering how MU achieved positive results when no one expected it from him.
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September 17, 2023, 11:30:43 PM
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Teams from Serie A cannot be underestimated in the Champions League this season. The reason is that Inter Milan, Ac Milan, Napoli and Lazio could possibly make a bigger surprise like they did in the previous season. I'm sure Inter Milan is highly regarded by their opponents.

Apart from that, the rise of Bayern Munich will be a big threat to other teams because they are increasingly integrating their strengths. It's just that they really miss Manuel Neuer in their goalkeeper position. Harry Kane's presence will make the competition in the Champions League this season even more interesting. Now for the Laliga giants, be it Real Madrid or Barcelona, ​​they also have quite strong strengths this season. So it will be difficult to guess who will be the champion this season, but Manchester City and Real Madrid still become strong candidates.

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September 17, 2023, 11:38:38 PM
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Despite the fact that Bayern draw to Leverkusen in their last match, the two teams are the still leading Bundesliga while Manchester United is sitting below top 10 from his domestic league. Even a non footballer will predict that Manchester United will definitely lost this one too if care is not taken.
The champion's league is a different competition, we may see a different Manchester United with a renewed focus not to start that tournament with a poor record. Ten Hag faced criticism for removing their new striker from their last game, but since he was just returning from injury and will be needed in their Champions league game, he had to be kept safe. Manchester United would have had an advantage with Jadon Sancho who has an experience playing against Bayern and a German side since he had played there, but he will not also be in the team. Bayern Munich will also have to make sure about their defense because Manchester United can score too.
What if we will only see the same united in UCL? Manchester united doesn't have good winger this time as antony has not yet coming back from brazil. Manchester united was also losing sancho. Hojlund was still under perform as he has not been making his first goal since his debut. Mount was playing as bad as another bad player in the club. Manchester united doesn't have good replacement for antony's position.
The club is still struggling in EPL. I expect nothing from manchester united this time. Being able to to go the play off stage will be big achievement for manchester united. Manchester united has been coming to the UCL without any preparations.
Ten hag is still having tons of unsolved problems in manchester united at this moment. Im so skeptical with MU right now.

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September 18, 2023, 01:02:00 AM
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What if we will only see the same united in UCL?

The club is still struggling in EPL. I expect nothing from manchester united this time. Being able to to go the play off stage will be big achievement for manchester united. Manchester united has been coming to the UCL without any preparations.
Playing in domestic league is always easier than playing in Europa League or Champions League. I don't expect Manchester United will be a different, in means of better team, in Champions League than what they shown in Premier League. They must improve their quality, then performances in Premier League to build up confidence for their players, before can make better performances in Champions League.

They have many problems in all areas especially defense that have yet been resolved. Those problems are barriers for Manchester United to succeed in Premier League and Champions League.

Teams from Serie A cannot be underestimated in the Champions League this season. The reason is that Inter Milan, Ac Milan, Napoli and Lazio could possibly make a bigger surprise like they did in the previous season. I'm sure Inter Milan is highly regarded by their opponents.
Chances for them to repeat success like the past season is slim. They are not actually too strong clubs compare to other big clubs in Champions League. So their success depends a lot on luckiness and I am doubtful that those clubs from Serie A will have luckiness in two consecutive seasons.

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Apart from that, the rise of Bayern Munich will be a big threat to other teams because they are increasingly integrating their strengths. It's just that they really miss Manuel Neuer in their goalkeeper position. Harry Kane's presence will make the competition in the Champions League this season even more interesting.
Kane actually improves attacking power of Bayern Munich and he will be very helpful for them in Champions League. They are already one of strongest clubs in Champions League and with a striker who is ambitious to win big titles, first big ones in his career, Bayern Munich will become more dangerous. They also have some good attacking midfielders who can support Kane with key passes for him to find goals.

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September 18, 2023, 04:54:51 AM
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Last week and this week were tough tests for Manchester United because they just lost in the domestic league and next they will face Bayern Munich in the UCL away match. Looking at the situation faced by Manchester United now it is not clear where the fault lies, even though Ronaldo, Mason Greewood and De Gea have left and even Harry Maguire is not playing, so who will they blame this time?

On the other hand, Lisandro Martinez is also getting worse at defending and I don't think he will be able to stop Harry Kane later. As for other problems, Sancho and Antony are still struggling with their respective problems. Erik Ten Hag will definitely receive harsh criticism from fans again if he still cannot bring Manchester United to victory. But according to predictions, we already know that Bayern Munich will win the match and that is a reality that Red Devils fans must accept.

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September 18, 2023, 06:24:59 AM
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I dont think so, Manchester United plays better on Champions League than  in Premier League i see this happen in various seasons, the most recorded one was the one where they eliminated the PSG playing like shit, i dont know if anyone remeber that game, i think it was a goal from Pogba from outside the box.
We needs to wait the result from the first match in UCL. Manchester united is not having a good squad right now. The club keeps struggling to perform better in EPL. The lost against some clubs in EPL were actually destroying the mentality from the players.
Manchester united's performance has been downgrading a lot compared to the last season. I keep see some players who still play like shit in the squad. Mason mount gave nothing to the club.
Manchester united can only rely on rashford at this moment. Hojlund's performance is still being so far from our expectation. The current united is far worst compared with that time.
Ten hag needs to change its strategy again caused by the previous strategy against brighton was not so good. it's caused by the wingers seem difficult to attack. I hope antony will be back before the match against bayern.

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September 18, 2023, 06:52:41 AM
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Last week and this week were tough tests for Manchester United because they just lost in the domestic league and next they will face Bayern Munich in the UCL away match. Looking at the situation faced by Manchester United now it is not clear where the fault lies, even though Ronaldo, Mason Greewood and De Gea have left and even Harry Maguire is not playing, so who will they blame this time?

On the other hand, Lisandro Martinez is also getting worse at defending and I don't think he will be able to stop Harry Kane later. As for other problems, Sancho and Antony are still struggling with their respective problems. Erik Ten Hag will definitely receive harsh criticism from fans again if he still cannot bring Manchester United to victory. But according to predictions, we already know that Bayern Munich will win the match and that is a reality that Red Devils fans must accept.

In theory Bayern Munchen should win but what do we know that for example Manchester United did not play that well intentionally by not getting the players tired in the game against Brighton,they maybe have sacrificed the three points in the Premier League in order to be able to offer a good fight against Bayern Munchen in the Champions League.

We have to see the game first although Bayern remains big favorite to win this game Manchester United is still a big name in European football so anything can happen and I would not be that much surprised if they won against Bayern Munchen in this opening game.

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September 18, 2023, 06:55:57 AM
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I think Bayern will score 4 times on United and that would be the end for Ten Haag as United manager. I believe this because Bayern right now is a monster who needs just a simple poke in order to awake and dominate almost every other team from Europa ( besides City and Real so far ) so yea ...Bayern are favorites by a mile in this game. For United ...ah , can we say something good about this team lately ? Because frankly , I don't see a single improvement from United during these first games EPL season but Bayern on the other hand , are playing with almost no mistakes in Bundesliga.  Cool
It looks like Manchester United suffering is not over after their last defeat to Brighton in the Premier League. Manchester United will continue their journey this season to face Bayern Munich in the Champions League. This match will be even more difficult for Ten Hag if he is not able to give Manchester United a win. It looks like the result of this match will determine Ten Hag's position, his ability is starting to be doubted after Manchester United inconsistent performance this season. If Manchester United continues to get bad results, Ten Hag's position will become increasingly shaky and he could potentially be replaced by someone else.

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September 18, 2023, 06:58:52 AM
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Teams from Serie A cannot be underestimated in the Champions League this season. The reason is that Inter Milan, Ac Milan, Napoli and Lazio could possibly make a bigger surprise like they did in the previous season. I'm sure Inter Milan is highly regarded by their opponents.
Last season Serie A teams has been reach their good achievement because from 3 european competitions Serie A team has send one representative team each in the final match but unfortunately none of them who can able to gets the trophies and the team just like Inter Milan and AC Milan will still being an the favourite to qualified to round of 16 and about Lazio they will fight against Atletico Madrid in this competition and both teams had same experience that they were lose at their domestic league

Atletico Madrid traditionally always be playing in champion league since 2014 and they can able several times to qualified to round of 16 and during their participant in Champion league Atletico Madrid has been reach to the final match 3 times but unfortunately they still unable to gets the trophies and last season Atletico Madrid was totally failed in this competition because at that time Atletico Madrid was finish at the bottom of group standings and this season is very interesting to know whether Atletico Madrid can qualified to the next round or not and their first test is Lazio

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September 18, 2023, 08:04:21 AM
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Teams from Serie A cannot be underestimated in the Champions League this season. The reason is that Inter Milan, Ac Milan, Napoli and Lazio could possibly make a bigger surprise like they did in the previous season. I'm sure Inter Milan is highly regarded by their opponents.

Apart from that, the rise of Bayern Munich will be a big threat to other teams because they are increasingly integrating their strengths. It's just that they really miss Manuel Neuer in their goalkeeper position. Harry Kane's presence will make the competition in the Champions League this season even more interesting. Now for the Laliga giants, be it Real Madrid or Barcelona, ​​they also have quite strong strengths this season. So it will be difficult to guess who will be the champion this season, but Manchester City and Real Madrid still become strong candidates.
teams from Serie A I doubt Lazio and Napoli because these two teams have inconsistent performances and poor stability which we can see from the last match these two teams are still very unstable and have not shown their strength that we longed for last season and I agree if there is a chance Big will come for Inter who have stronger stability.

and regarding Bayern Munich it looks like this will not be a problem because Munich only needs to get past United and Galatasaray and I think this is not a difficult task because United are still performing badly but we dont know what will happen. and as for who is the strongest candidate to hold the UCL trophy, it seems we are too early to discuss who will be the strongest candidate to enter the final round, unless this preliminary round is over, then we can see who is the best.
If its just speculation, for me there is more than that, even Bayern Munich and Inter Milan also have a chance besides Man City and Real Madrid.

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September 18, 2023, 08:12:59 AM
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Last week and this week were tough tests for Manchester United because they just lost in the domestic league and next they will face Bayern Munich in the UCL away match. Looking at the situation faced by Manchester United now it is not clear where the fault lies, even though Ronaldo, Mason Greewood and De Gea have left and even Harry Maguire is not playing, so who will they blame this time?

On the other hand, Lisandro Martinez is also getting worse at defending and I don't think he will be able to stop Harry Kane later. As for other problems, Sancho and Antony are still struggling with their respective problems. Erik Ten Hag will definitely receive harsh criticism from fans again if he still cannot bring Manchester United to victory. But according to predictions, we already know that Bayern Munich will win the match and that is a reality that Red Devils fans must accept.

In theory Bayern Munchen should win but what do we know that for example Manchester United did not play that well intentionally by not getting the players tired in the game against Brighton,they maybe have sacrificed the three points in the Premier League in order to be able to offer a good fight against Bayern Munchen in the Champions League.

We have to see the game first although Bayern remains big favorite to win this game Manchester United is still a big name in European football so anything can happen and I would not be that much surprised if they won against Bayern Munchen in this opening game.
I understand what you mean, but Erik ten Hag would definitely be confused if he sacrificed one of these matches and therefore he still appeared using his main squad, but the results were still far from expectations. Now the players are definitely starting to get tired because mentally and stamina has been completely drained last week and I think they no longer have any hope of winning against Bayern Munich.

Meanwhile, Bayern Munich, which appears quite consistently in the domestic league, does not need to hesitate to beat Manchester United, they have many options available and Tuchel seems free to manage his players. Well, it is true that Manchester United has a great legacy in this competition but that was before and it is not equivalent to what they have produced so far.

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September 18, 2023, 08:31:35 AM
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I think Bayern will score 4 times on United and that would be the end for Ten Haag as United manager. I believe this because Bayern right now is a monster who needs just a simple poke in order to awake and dominate almost every other team from Europa ( besides City and Real so far ) so yea ...Bayern are favorites by a mile in this game. For United ...ah , can we say something good about this team lately ? Because frankly , I don't see a single improvement from United during these first games EPL season but Bayern on the other hand , are playing with almost no mistakes in Bundesliga.  Cool
It looks like Manchester United suffering is not over after their last defeat to Brighton in the Premier League. Manchester United will continue their journey this season to face Bayern Munich in the Champions League. This match will be even more difficult for Ten Hag if he is not able to give Manchester United a win. It looks like the result of this match will determine Ten Hag's position, his ability is starting to be doubted after Manchester United inconsistent performance this season. If Manchester United continues to get bad results, Ten Hag's position will become increasingly shaky and he could potentially be replaced by someone else.


If we are lookin at the statistic between both of clubs. Bayern will be actually leading the game against manchester united. As you can see that if bayern will be also on advantage by playing at home manchester united. Manchester united will be also in disavailability from some of its important wingers.
Manchester united needs more than luck to win against bayern but im thinking now that if manchester united is still possible to get draw against bayern. Ten hag is in under pressure right now. he shall find solution to leave from many so many problems.

I saw that if ten hag was just getting slapped bad after he has seen that if some transfers were not so successful as he predicted in the past. Mount was a flop while hojlund is still trying so hard in proving himself to be a worthy striker for the club.
The glazer was not also being cooperative in selling the club to the new owner. There is a lot of things that need to be done by him.
Giving bigger motivation to the players to perform better against bayern have become ten hag's responsibility.

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September 18, 2023, 08:34:34 AM
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Teams from Serie A cannot be underestimated in the Champions League this season. The reason is that Inter Milan, Ac Milan, Napoli and Lazio could possibly make a bigger surprise like they did in the previous season. I'm sure Inter Milan is highly regarded by their opponents.
Inter Milan success in appearing in the Champions League Final last season gave a positive signal to the Serie A representative teams, they cannot be underestimated even though their style of play is a little slower than that of the Premier League teams. Inter Milan is still consistently maintaining its performance, while Milan, who just lost to Inter Milan in Serie A, certainly wants to go further in the Champions League.
Meanwhile, Napoli and Lazio status as dark horse teams means they could hurt other favorite teams with the hidden strength these two teams have. However, I am not completely sure that the team from Serie A will be able to win the Champions League this season because there are still many other strong teams who are favorites to win.

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September 18, 2023, 08:48:21 AM
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AC Milan will welcome Newcastle at the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza as the first match of the UEFA Champions League. The match will be an emotional one for Tonali, who was sold to Newcastle this season.

Newcastle will have their first match after a long time without experiencing the fierceness of Champions League competition.
This season, Newcastle started the Premier League with a poor performance. Newcastle's performance is not like AC Milan in Serie A, which only suffered one defeat. Due to the results obtained by Milan, Newcastle United will have to work extra hard to avoid defeat in the opening match.

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September 18, 2023, 08:48:35 AM
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I think Bayern will score 4 times on United and that would be the end for Ten Haag as United manager. I believe this because Bayern right now is a monster who needs just a simple poke in order to awake and dominate almost every other team from Europa ( besides City and Real so far ) so yea ...Bayern are favorites by a mile in this game. For United ...ah , can we say something good about this team lately ? Because frankly , I don't see a single improvement from United during these first games EPL season but Bayern on the other hand , are playing with almost no mistakes in Bundesliga.  Cool
Manchester united are really suffering this season,  they are worse now that it isvso hard for them to win their games. Bayern Munich are in good form better than Manchester United so it will be an advantage for them. But I still feel Erik ten Hag can still  do something about Manchester United performance to be better,  this can only be effective on Premier league games because this is the most important competition for Manchester United but as for the Champions League I don't think Manchester United is  ready.

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September 18, 2023, 09:32:21 AM
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I saw that if ten hag was just getting slapped bad after he has seen that if some transfers were not so successful as he predicted in the past. Mount was a flop while hojlund is still trying so hard in proving himself to be a worthy striker for the club.
The glazer was not also being cooperative in selling the club to the new owner. There is a lot of things that need to be done by him.
Giving bigger motivation to the players to perform better against bayern have become ten hag's responsibility.

If I'm not mistaken Højlund has only played once from the first half and after several of his shots didn't turn into goals Ten Hag felt the need to replace him, at his age he might still develop better if he can get a good atmosphere at the club, so expect him to immediately become a striker who was sharp at Manchester United whereas when he was not like that at Atlanta, this is something that I think is a bit excessive, he was indeed bought at a high price but that is the club's fault for valuing the player too much.
In the first match against Bayern Munich, I don't think Højlund will make a big contribution to his club, I actually predict he won't be the main player and Ten Haag will put Rashford as the main striker, but whoever Ten Haag play, United will always find it difficult to score goals because their midfielders are also quite weak, especially the defense because Varane doesn't play, nor does Luke Shaw.
This is not an easy match for Manchester United, my prediction is that they will lose, only how many goals will go into their net will be the question.

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September 18, 2023, 10:44:23 AM
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Meanwhile, Bayern Munich, which appears quite consistently in the domestic league, does not need to hesitate to beat Manchester United, they have many options available and Tuchel seems free to manage his players. Well, it is true that Manchester United has a great legacy in this competition but that was before and it is not equivalent to what they have produced so far.
There is nothing that Manchester United can hope for because of their defeat against Brighton yesterday. Many people on social media are laughing at the bad results they produced at the beginning of this season. Munich's domestic league results are much better than Manchester United's, especially when playing at home, of course Munich could beat them. Manchester United to maintain a safe position in this group phase.

I may not be able to predict the score but I'm sure Munich can win big against Manchester United, just look at even their defense is still not really good if Ten Hag hasn't evaluated yesterday's defeat and corrected it, Munich will definitely take advantage of that gap to be able to score more goals and Kane will understand better how to penetrate their defense.

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