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February 15, 2024, 12:29:46 PM
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Things were going relatively well with Tuchel before the winter.
But if we look at the last few games, we can see that the team is playing against the coach. Tuchel must overcome the egos of his players.
Musala thought he was Messi and Sane was Ronaldo.
Coaches and all players must be questioned, and cannot stop at just the big names. The team needs to wash it thoroughly.

Lazio has a strong defense and came up with a good game plan.
Now, they are 1 goal up, have a strong defense, and have two weeks to develop a game plan to prevent Bayern from scoring two goals.
Lazio has a greater chance of qualifying for the next round.


Well, this is the unique thing about football, we didn't even think that Bayern would lose in the match against Lazio. as we know, Di Rotten lost, conceding a penalty goal from Ciro Immobile in the 69th minute. referring to statistics, it shows that Bayern Munich was only able to take 17 kicks throughout the match without a single shot on target. in fact, Harry Kane admitted that Bayern Munich appeared disappointing in the second half. with this result, my predictions failed miserably regarding Bayern Munich. I didn't think the result would be like this. To be honest, I didn't watch this match. however, referring to match statistics, Bayern controlled more than 61% of ball possession.

On the other hand, Lazio was lucky to get a penalty kick. Ciro's only goal was from the penalty spot, bringing Lazio to win last night's battle. even in terms of opportunities, Lazio is much better than Bayern Munich in this match. I'm quite sure, there are many of us who experienced defeat in the Lazio vs Bayern Munich match. in the second leg, like it or not, Thucel will have to defeat Lazio at the Alian Arena with a landslide score. thus, Bayern has the right to qualify for the next phase. otherwise, Tuchel's position with the Bavarians will be threatened.

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February 15, 2024, 12:37:01 PM
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I will not blame the red card received by Upamecano because from the start Bayern Munich played very badly. How can it be that one of the teams that is nominated to win the Champions League this season can't even break into Lazio's goal and they couldn't even get a single shot on target in last night's match. It is very strange to see Bayern Munich's performance continuing to decline since the defeat against Leverkusen in the domestic league.

On the other hand, I see that Lazio is even better and can control the tempo of the match as much as they want. Even though we know that Lazio can only put up a strong defense when facing a team that has an attacking style like Bayern Munich, they can at least shoot on target 4 times. Well, Lazio's only goal was scored by Immobile from the penalty spot and that was because of a foul committed by Upamecano. In the second leg, Bayern Munich must be able to reverse the aggregate if they don't want to be embarrassed in front of their fans.
I have a different view on this, because it is undeniable that the goals that Laazio can create come from there so that they can create the only goals that come in this match. But I don't mean to blame, because in a match anything can happen.
Here Lazio clearly managed to apply a defense that was very difficult to penetrate, so Bayern Munich did not have many open opportunities that they could convert into goals. Apart from that, Bayern Munich failed to be creative in building attacks, they could not find weak points that could be exploited. Perhaps Lazio's victory can be said to be lucky and can be said not, because they cannot be said to be lucky because they show solid defense, while it can be said to be lucky because of the goals that were born due to Bayern Munich's mistakes.
That's right and because of that Lazio deserved to win the match even if it was just a goal from a penalty kick. They never tire of always putting pressure on Bayern Munich and while playing at home they make good use of it to be able to break into the goal guarded by Manuel Neuer. As a result, Upamecano had to commit a foul which resulted in him having to be sent off from the field and if Lazio had just defended it the result would have definitely been a draw.

Bayern Munich couldn't do anything and looking at the statistics they only shot 10 times off target and had 17 goal attempts but they didn't score a single goal. It is indeed quite complicated regarding Lazio's victory, but in my opinion it was pure hard work and I don't see it as mere luck. Lazio are said to be lucky if they are just lazy or focus on defense only and the proof is that they dare to attack against a team that is superior to them.

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February 15, 2024, 12:52:21 PM
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Having more trust in Bayern Munich is what makes everyone think they will win the game, forgetting that Lazio has a well-arranged set of defenses. which Lazio end up playing a defence game since they know their opponent Bayern Munich is a stronger team than them. To me precisely, I will say that Bayern Munich should go and focus more on their performance to face Lazio in the second leg and to make sure they are able to have not less than 2 goals; if not, they will definitely be knocked out by Lazio. It will be very disappointing to see such a strong team knocked out by Lazio in the round of 16; that means they were not even able to meet up to the quarterfinals. It will definitely look somehow for a team like Bayern Munich. 
In my opinion. Actually, Bayern Munich's current problem lies with its coach Tuchel. As you said Bayer Munich is a giant club, this is a fact. Neuer is still performing well after recovering from injury, this is also a fact. And Kane is the world's top striker at the moment, this is also a fact. I'm not a fan of Munich. But in my opinion, Tuchel has really shown that he is not worthy of coaching Bayern Munich, it's as simple as that.

In the first leg match against Lazio, apart from successfully beating Bayern Munich, they also had zero shots on target against Lazio. Lazio was able to fire 4 shots on target, it must be admitted that typical Italian defense was very good in this match.
It's true, after beating Lazio in the first leg, Bayern Munich still has a chance in the second leg. However, now many people doubt that Bayern Munich will remain a candidate to win this season after losing to Lazio. And the saddest thing is, if Bayern Munich collapses in the round of 16, it means that Kane's hopes of winning his first trophy will be dashed again.

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February 15, 2024, 12:56:26 PM
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Like everyone else, I thought Bayern Munich would win, but they lost. I really didn't expect this result.
Lazio has an advantage now, but the next game will be played in Germany and they need to be very careful because their opponent is Bayern Munich.


We do not expect this to be the result of Bayern Munich against Lazio. Bayern Munich's performance has been worse this season. Before the started of the game, I had my doubts about Bayern Munich's performance against Lazio because their winning ways is difference from last season. Despite this, i thought Bayern Munich would win the game easily and wasn't expecting them to lose in the end. They had more ball control than Lazio in the first half, they just lacked goals, Bayern Munich lost because of the red card and penalty that ruined everything. Lazio has already taken the lead with one goal, however, Bayern Munich will need to step up their game in their second leg. I don't think they will disappoint at home.

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February 15, 2024, 12:57:14 PM
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I will not blame the red card received by Upamecano because from the start Bayern Munich played very badly. How can it be that one of the teams that is nominated to win the Champions League this season can't even break into Lazio's goal and they couldn't even get a single shot on target in last night's match. It is very strange to see Bayern Munich's performance continuing to decline since the defeat against Leverkusen in the domestic league.

On the other hand, I see that Lazio is even better and can control the tempo of the match as much as they want. Even though we know that Lazio can only put up a strong defense when facing a team that has an attacking style like Bayern Munich, they can at least shoot on target 4 times. Well, Lazio's only goal was scored by Immobile from the penalty spot and that was because of a foul committed by Upamecano. In the second leg, Bayern Munich must be able to reverse the aggregate if they don't want to be embarrassed in front of their fans.
I have a different view on this, because it is undeniable that the goals that Laazio can create come from there so that they can create the only goals that come in this match. But I don't mean to blame, because in a match anything can happen.
Here Lazio clearly managed to apply a defense that was very difficult to penetrate, so Bayern Munich did not have many open opportunities that they could convert into goals. Apart from that, Bayern Munich failed to be creative in building attacks, they could not find weak points that could be exploited. Perhaps Lazio's victory can be said to be lucky and can be said not, because they cannot be said to be lucky because they show solid defense, while it can be said to be lucky because of the goals that were born due to Bayern Munich's mistakes.
Actually, I get your point, and Lazio's performance was impressive. Bayern could not break through their brick-wall defense. I suppose their purpose is grasping the moment, not luck. I saw 15 shots from Bayern, but none were on target. Since Lazio's defense was so strong, Bayern's attempts looked desperate and uncalculated. Lazio won by keeping Bayern at bay and taking their chances.

I agree regarding Bayern's, or lack thereof, originality. They struggled to explain Lazio's setup. Bayern has a tough second leg. They need to break Lazio's defense, which is difficult. The Lazio win wasnt luck, in my opinion. The team showed up, played hard, and most importantly capitalized. To turn things around, Bayern must improve.

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February 15, 2024, 01:01:01 PM
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I have a different view on this, because it is undeniable that the goals that Laazio can create come from there so that they can create the only goals that come in this match. But I don't mean to blame, because in a match anything can happen.
Here Lazio clearly managed to apply a defense that was very difficult to penetrate, so Bayern Munich did not have many open opportunities that they could convert into goals. Apart from that, Bayern Munich failed to be creative in building attacks, they could not find weak points that could be exploited. Perhaps Lazio's victory can be said to be lucky and can be said not, because they cannot be said to be lucky because they show solid defense, while it can be said to be lucky because of the goals that were born due to Bayern Munich's mistakes.
Is a team like Bayern Munich suffering from the Harry Kane curse? I hope such feelings are not true. Because after all, it was quite strange that against Lazio, Bayern was ahead but unable to score. There were no shots on target either. So in this second leg, playing at home should be a place for revenge because it could be that Lazio, who have won 3 points, can be more aggressive in defending them.
It is truly unfortunate that Harry Kane, despite being the top scorer, still gives Bayern Munich the same fate as Tottenham. This is just my opinion and it doesn't seem like Tuchel has learned from his mistakes either. In essence in my opinion Tuchel needs to synchronize with the players, because if you look at the strategy the Bayern Munich players don't seem to enjoy what Tuchel is implementing.

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February 15, 2024, 01:09:26 PM
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The only surprise result in this week's Champions League matches was Lazio's home defeat to Bayern Munich.It was not difficult to predict the outcome of the other matches, but Leipzig could have at least drawn with Real Madrid, but Real Madrid was focused on the match as they really want to go all the way this season and succeed in every competition. The winners will most probably be Real Madrid, City, PSG and Bayern Munich.Although Bayern Munich lost 1-0 away, I think they will be the ones to win 3-0 at home.There are some good matches in the next week and I can't wait to watch them.

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The only surprise result in this week's Champions League matches was Lazio's home defeat to Bayern Munich.It was not difficult to predict the outcome of the other matches, but Leipzig could have at least drawn with Real Madrid, but Real Madrid was focused on the match as they really want to go all the way this season and succeed in every competition. The winners will most probably be Real Madrid, City, PSG and Bayern Munich.Although Bayern Munich lost 1-0 away, I think they will be the ones to win 3-0 at home.There are some good matches in the next week and I can't wait to watch them.

I hope so but things may be so difficult for bayern to score in the second leg caused by lazio may be going fully defensive against bayern. bayern was not even able creating goal attempt which is a shame as a club that has 100 millions striker owned by the club. Bayern needs to perform better in the second leg or it will out from UCL.
Im sure lazio is trying so hard to learn the strategy used by bayern munich. Im feeling that tuchel may be sacked by the club if bayern will be out from UCL. Having 1 goal aggregate is not something difficult to surpass. The only problem when its opponent used everything to defend at the second half
Playing at home may be boosting the mentality from the club but we can also expect snowball to happen with bayern munich. This is also impacting the performance from the club too. The performance from bayern so damn and it's fuckin bad.
It's terrible to watch bayern munich's gameplay against asroma. The performance from bayern is fuckin joke. This club being so clueless in the match against lazio.

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After watching the last 16 games so far, I don’t see any other team being capable of beating Man City. I know anything can happen but Bayern were incredibly poor, PSG always choke. My hope is Real Madrid rise to the big occasion like they so often do. Man City embarrassed them last season though. Hopefully Bellingham makes a difference for them this season.

Barcelona are a pale shadow of what they once were, I just don’t see any credible challengers to Man City and I really don’t want them to win it again. It leaves a sour taste in the mouth with them because of all the financial charges they face for cheating.
Man City has indeed had quite an impressive performance, and it is very appropriate for them to be considered as one of the strong candidates in the Champions League. If you look at the performance of other teams, I think there are only 2 teams that could be a stumbling block for Man City, that is Real Madrid and Arsenal. Why Arsenal? Usually when the two teams that meet in the Champions League come from the same League, then it will give its own prestige, and I think with the form that Arsenal is having at the moment, it will make it a fifty-fifty chance for both teams.

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I hate it when I lose a bet because a team fails so miserably. I mean don't get me wrong, when I bet on a game that I know there is a risk, I am fine with it but it has to be like a team worked hard and still lost. I have wagered against big name clubs too before, so losing was normal in those cases.

But, when I see a team like Bayern, who should get the win and still lose, because they lacked the effort, that makes me feel furious. They didn't even try, they have been horrible, the yare just broken. I mean at this stage I am starting to believe that the Kane curse is actually very real, it looks like he is not that good at all, and it could be very dangerous for the whole team as well. Look how terrible their results have been in all competitions since he joined.

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February 15, 2024, 01:45:17 PM
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But, when I see a team like Bayern, who should get the win and still lose, because they lacked the effort, that makes me feel furious. They didn't even try, they have been horrible, the yare just broken. I mean at this stage I am starting to believe that the Kane curse is actually very real, it looks like he is not that good at all, and it could be very dangerous for the whole team as well. Look how terrible their results have been in all competitions since he joined.
Kane's curse. Cheesy

But it make sense, he only got Audi Cup and International Champions Cup in his entire career even though he gives a lot contribution. Too bad for Kane, Bayern Munich which we know is easily win in Bundesliga, might not win in this season. While in Champions League, it seems Bayern Munich isn't the one of toughest team among the others.

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February 15, 2024, 02:01:17 PM
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Having more trust in Bayern Munich is what makes everyone think they will win the game, forgetting that Lazio has a well-arranged set of defenses. which Lazio end up playing a defence game since they know their opponent Bayern Munich is a stronger team than them. To me precisely, I will say that Bayern Munich should go and focus more on their performance to face Lazio in the second leg and to make sure they are able to have not less than 2 goals; if not, they will definitely be knocked out by Lazio. It will be very disappointing to see such a strong team knocked out by Lazio in the round of 16; that means they were not even able to meet up to the quarterfinals. It will definitely look somehow for a team like Bayern Munich.  
Although I did not expect that Bayern lost by Lazio. But I remember last season's UCL where clubs from Serie A were able to progress further than the other strongest clubs. And I think this time the same thing could happen. Last season there were 3 Serie A clubs who managed to qualify for the round of 16 and all three also continued to advance to the quarter-finals and 2 clubs continued to the semi-finals. Well, this illustrates that the clubs from Serie A are really strong. And now Lazio being able to beat Bayern also surprised us all. But if you remember last season, everything will look normal. It's just that last season Milan were the ones who qualified but this season Lazio are the ones who qualified. And actually Lazio is not in optimal condition in Serie A. But it was very surprising to see Bayern lose to Lazio. But the fortunate thing is that Bayern only lost narrowly by 1 point. So Bayern still has a chance to qualify if they can score at least 2 goals in the second leg and can't let Lazio score.

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February 15, 2024, 02:05:20 PM
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I have a different view on this, because it is undeniable that the goals that Laazio can create come from there so that they can create the only goals that come in this match. But I don't mean to blame, because in a match anything can happen.
Here Lazio clearly managed to apply a defense that was very difficult to penetrate, so Bayern Munich did not have many open opportunities that they could convert into goals. Apart from that, Bayern Munich failed to be creative in building attacks, they could not find weak points that could be exploited. Perhaps Lazio's victory can be said to be lucky and can be said not, because they cannot be said to be lucky because they show solid defense, while it can be said to be lucky because of the goals that were born due to Bayern Munich's mistakes.
Is a team like Bayern Munich suffering from the Harry Kane curse? I hope such feelings are not true. Because after all, it was quite strange that against Lazio, Bayern was ahead but unable to score. There were no shots on target either. So in this second leg, playing at home should be a place for revenge because it could be that Lazio, who have won 3 points, can be more aggressive in defending them.
It is truly unfortunate that Harry Kane, despite being the top scorer, still gives Bayern Munich the same fate as Tottenham. This is just my opinion and it doesn't seem like Tuchel has learned from his mistakes either. In essence in my opinion Tuchel needs to synchronize with the players, because if you look at the strategy the Bayern Munich players don't seem to enjoy what Tuchel is implementing.

Harry Kane is not performing badly with Bayern Munich. But Harry Kane is unlucky. Despite being a very talented player, he is yet to win any title. After Kane joined Munich I thought maybe this time he could win the Bundesliga and Champions League titles. But these two titles are now completely inappropriate for Munich. After 12 long years, Munich lost their dominance in the Bundesliga.

The reason for the defeat against Lazio I would say was Munich's tactical weakness. Munich cannot dominate this match. Also, there was not a single on target shot after taking a total of 17 shots. At the same time, Munich had bad luck. Munich might not have lost this match if defender Upamecano had not received the red card.

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February 15, 2024, 02:15:17 PM
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I thought PSG would struggle to score even one goal against Sociedad. Real Sociedad is not good enough to compete with PSG, even in their next game, after watching their performance against PSG, I think PSG will still win.
There is a possibility of different levels if you compare several sectors with the PSG squad and Real Sociedad players, PSG is filled with expensive players and has top names while Real Sociedad only has a few players who are expected by the Real Sociedad coach, and that is very different. If you look at the match between the two clubs, of course most people will be favored by PSG, maybe in this match Real Sociedad will only be underestimated by football observers, so of course there will be differences in the quality of the game.

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February 15, 2024, 02:20:33 PM
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Harry Kane is not performing badly with Bayern Munich. But Harry Kane is unlucky. Despite being a very talented player, he is yet to win any title. After Kane joined Munich I thought maybe this time he could win the Bundesliga and Champions League titles. But these two titles are now completely inappropriate for Munich. After 12 long years, Munich lost their dominance in the Bundesliga.

The reason for the defeat against Lazio I would say was Munich's tactical weakness. Munich cannot dominate this match. Also, there was not a single on target shot after taking a total of 17 shots. At the same time, Munich had bad luck. Munich might not have lost this match if defender Upamecano had not received the red card.
Tuchel cited many individual mistakes as the reason for the defeat, but I believe that the coach should not shift the blame for the team’s defeat onto the players, this is the wrong way.

Tuchel was also asked after the match if he was worried about his time in Bayern, to which he replied that he was not worried about his future and was not worried about being fired. He probably understands that finding a new club will not be a problem for him, and things are not going so well for Bayern, and the coach is most often blamed for this.

Bayern can play better at home and I believe they can beat Lazio. Yesterday's match was very strange, Bayern couldn't do anything in attack, it looked unusual.

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February 15, 2024, 02:22:34 PM
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It was such a smooth performance by PSG against Real Sociedad.  Smiley  I didn't even understand why their odds were near 1.70 before the game. I know how inconsistent PSG were in the group stage. But they were still doing pretty good in home games you know. Because of their strong look in those games I wanted to trust PSG with my bet as well.

Thankfully they didn't let me down. I was really indecisive about adding Bayern Munich too but didn't later on. It was a close call really because they played horrible. There were many wasted opportunities and there wasn't even a shot on goal by them.  Sad

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February 15, 2024, 02:25:29 PM
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The only surprise result in this week's Champions League matches was Lazio's home defeat to Bayern Munich.It was not difficult to predict the outcome of the other matches, but Leipzig could have at least drawn with Real Madrid, but Real Madrid was focused on the match as they really want to go all the way this season and succeed in every competition. The winners will most probably be Real Madrid, City, PSG and Bayern Munich.Although Bayern Munich lost 1-0 away, I think they will be the ones to win 3-0 at home.There are some good matches in the next week and I can't wait to watch them.

Lazio winning Bayern Munich may seem like a surprise to many but to me I saw it coming because despite the fact that Bayern Munich is a big name in football history, but for them to lose against Bayern Leverkusen regardless of the fact they are topping the league table means that Bayern Munich have started losing their strength and even if they were to lose that match it would have been by a goal difference but they lost 3:0 so that losing to Bayern Leverkusen really killed Bayern Munich's winning spence hence they went into the Champions league without any concrete arrangement on how to win Lazio so to me i knew Bayern Munich would lose that match.

Tipping the winners of champions league now might not really be achievable unless after this knockout stages because some of the clubs you listed above may not actually make it to the next round.

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February 15, 2024, 02:26:13 PM
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Harry Kane is not performing badly with Bayern Munich. But Harry Kane is unlucky. Despite being a very talented player, he is yet to win any title. After Kane joined Munich I thought maybe this time he could win the Bundesliga and Champions League titles. But these two titles are now completely inappropriate for Munich. After 12 long years, Munich lost their dominance in the Bundesliga.

His last game in the Champions League was not all that encouraging. He missed a chance that a striker in his class would have converted. This is why Klyrian Mbappé is the best striker in the world because he take his chances. Bayern Munich have not been trophyless for a long time but it looks like Harry Kane will end this season without a single trophy. Bayern Munich can still overturn the deficit and qualify for the quarter finals.

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The reason for the defeat against Lazio I would say was Munich's tactical weakness. Munich cannot dominate this match. Also, there was not a single on target shot after taking a total of 17 shots. At the same time, Munich had bad luck. Munich might not have lost this match if defender Upamecano had not received the red card.

They were not clinical with the chances they had. In a Champions League league, wastefulness is a great sin because it might later hunt the club. Lazio took the few chances they had and won a penalty while Bayern Munich had much but wasted theirs courtesy of Harry Kane and Jamal Musiala. The red card also affected the game and made it difficult for them to have a comeback. But it was indeed a reckless tackle by Dayot Upamecano and he deserved the red card. Even coach Thomas Tuchel slammed him for such a dangerous tackle.

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February 15, 2024, 02:27:01 PM
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But, when I see a team like Bayern, who should get the win and still lose, because they lacked the effort, that makes me feel furious. They didn't even try, they have been horrible, the yare just broken. I mean at this stage I am starting to believe that the Kane curse is actually very real, it looks like he is not that good at all, and it could be very dangerous for the whole team as well. Look how terrible their results have been in all competitions since he joined.
Kane's curse. Cheesy

But it make sense, he only got Audi Cup and International Champions Cup in his entire career even though he gives a lot contribution. Too bad for Kane, Bayern Munich which we know is easily win in Bundesliga, might not win in this season. While in Champions League, it seems Bayern Munich isn't the one of toughest team among the others.
After suffering a crushing defeat by Leverkusen in the domestic league, Munich now had to accept another defeat against Lazio in yesterday's match, even though the goal was due to a foul by Dayot Upamecano. I think Munich should not have taken unnecessary action by bringing down a Lazio player in the penalty box. , clearly that is detrimental to Munich, I'm not sure that in the second leg, playing at home to Munich, they have to win big against Lazio, but if Lazio makes it difficult to hold Munich to a draw, of course they will fail in the UCL this season.

I don't know if this is Kane's curse or not, but actually he is a good player at scoring goals, in fact he is often a goal machine wherever he plays, but unfortunately he couldn't score a goal in yesterday's match, even one against Lazio. Lazio's strong defense made Munich became frustrated and had to accept their defeat and of course Munich had to prepare themselves for the second leg match later and they had to be able to learn from their defeat yesterday.

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February 15, 2024, 02:27:28 PM
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The only surprise result in this week's Champions League matches was Lazio's home defeat to Bayern Munich.It was not difficult to predict the outcome of the other matches, but Leipzig could have at least drawn with Real Madrid, but Real Madrid was focused on the match as they really want to go all the way this season and succeed in every competition. The winners will most probably be Real Madrid, City, PSG and Bayern Munich.Although Bayern Munich lost 1-0 away, I think they will be the ones to win 3-0 at home.There are some good matches in the next week and I can't wait to watch them.

Bayern Munich is a team they are not in the good situation and especially after the game they lost against Leverkusen in the Bundesliga, they are still shocked because even Tuchel was not expecting that result.
Now they lost another game and this time against Lazio. Thomas Tuchel the coach of Bayern Munich about this game said they didn't lose the game because Lazio was not performing well but they lost it because of the bad performance of their own team.


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