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February 15, 2024, 11:36:40 AM
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Thomas Tuchel has really turned this mighty Bayern Munich into an average team. It's now two straight loses in a row but this time around with a zero shot on goal for 90 minutes. I don't understand why he keeps benching one of their best defender game after game. There's more much more confidence when de Light is on the pitch. Upamecano has been making too many mistakes since last year especially in crucial matches and it seems he is not learning from his mistakes because it's getting worse. He costs the team some precious previous matches and now he has done it again.

I think Tuchel game plan is not suitable for these players. They have more to offer far beyond Tuchel's imagination. They have proven their best performance during Nagelsmann. With available players, they managed to win but everything has changed now absolutely.

I expressed my opinion about Tuchel for Bayern a long time ago, he is not yet ready to be the coach of such a team, his decisions regarding players are simply ridiculous, I don’t know what he bases his choice on, but it was his mistakes that led to Bayern’s defeat in the match with Bayer and also the same thing happened in the match with Lazio. In the match with Bayer, Bayern made one shot on target, in the match with Lazio, none, something is clearly wrong with Bayern...
I also agree with your thoughts. Tuchel has lost 10 out of 43 matches since taking over as coach of Bayern Munich. Thomas Tuchel is creating disastrous records at Bayern Munich. Therefore, he can completely be fired. Thomas Tuchel showed a poor performance against Lazio. They didn't even have a single shot on target towards the opponent's goal despite bringing the best options in attack, like Harry Kane, Leroy Sane, or Jamal Musiala.
The leadership of Bayern Munich should consider a plan to replace Thomas Tuchel because I think he will have no plan to deal with the football team. There are a series of bright names out there, like Jose Mourinho, Hansi Flick, and even Jurgen Klopp are all ideal choices to replace him. I hope the most is probably Jurgen Klopp.

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February 15, 2024, 11:37:48 AM
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Thomas Tuchel has really turned this mighty Bayern Munich into an average team. It's now two straight loses in a row but this time around with a zero shot on goal for 90 minutes. I don't understand why he keeps benching one of their best defender game after game. There's more much more confidence when de Light is on the pitch. Upamecano has been making too many mistakes since last year especially in crucial matches and it seems he is not learning from his mistakes because it's getting worse. He costs the team some precious previous matches and now he has done it again.

I think Tuchel game plan is not suitable for these players. They have more to offer far beyond Tuchel's imagination. They have proven their best performance during Nagelsmann. With available players, they managed to win but everything has changed now absolutely.

I expressed my opinion about Tuchel for Bayern a long time ago, he is not yet ready to be the coach of such a team, his decisions regarding players are simply ridiculous, I don’t know what he bases his choice on, but it was his mistakes that led to Bayern’s defeat in the match with Bayer and also the same thing happened in the match with Lazio. In the match with Bayer, Bayern made one shot on target, in the match with Lazio, none, something is clearly wrong with Bayern...
Tuchel isn't such a bad coach. Last year he was lucky that Borussia in the last round could not take the first place and this season Bayern looks not so bad, and Bayer and Lazio are not so weak teams, although the fact that Bayern could not even score looks unexpected, but Italian teams can play from defense and give surprises. I think Serie A is the most unpredictable of the top 5 leagues.
Nevertheless, I think Bayern should win the return game and go further.

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February 15, 2024, 11:46:17 AM
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I felt both Lazio and Bayern Munich did not play very well yesterday as both of the teams did not create many goal scoring opportunities in the match, but it was such an amazing moment when I watched the home fans singing and cheering so loudly as a shown of support for the home team throughout the whole match. Even though Lazio did managed to win the match with a penalty scored but I guess it would be tough for Lazio to held on to just a goal lead when they play against Bayern Munich for the 2nd leg meeting at the Allianz Arena.

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February 15, 2024, 11:49:02 AM
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After watching the last 16 games so far, I don’t see any other team being capable of beating Man City. I know anything can happen but Bayern were incredibly poor, PSG always choke. My hope is Real Madrid rise to the big occasion like they so often do. Man City embarrassed them last season though. Hopefully Bellingham makes a difference for them this season.

Barcelona are a pale shadow of what they once were, I just don’t see any credible challengers to Man City and I really don’t want them to win it again. It leaves a sour taste in the mouth with them because of all the financial charges they face for cheating.

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February 15, 2024, 11:55:37 AM
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Like everyone else, I thought Bayern Munich would win, but they lost. I really didn't expect this result.
Lazio has an advantage now, but the next game will be played in Germany and they need to be very careful because their opponent is Bayern Munich.


Unbelievable, can’t believe Bayer lost Sad
Back-to-back defeats for Bayern and no shot on target against Lazio. Tuchel is no longer seen as a brilliant coach.
The truth is that Bayern Munich didn't play anything and deserved to lose.
The team is playing with no confidence, no attacking, no counterattack, missing the net on opportunities while the opponent had more desire to win and deserved to win.
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while many fans are saying Harry kane have bring his bad luck from the Tottenham for been Trophyless but still I think it too early to conclude that the effects is from him, let give him another chance, yesterday was shocking to me that Bayern has failed to register a shot on target for the first time since 2019, when they failed to have a shot on target against Liverpool in the Champions league too, My question is can they make it out of this stage because right now kane is in trouble, and also Thomas Tuchel too who have lost 10 games out of 48 matches since became the manager of Bayern Munich.

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February 15, 2024, 12:08:20 PM
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I wish I didn't add Bayern Munich to win to my parlay also.  Cry  I hoped to see a day with no surprise results again but I shouldn't have been very optimistic about that. I was confident about PSG but was having second thoughts about Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich just showed a terrible performance last night. 17 shots but 0 on target...
Stay cool. Bayern Munich can turn things around in the second leg even though yesterday Bayern Munich narrowly lost against Lazio.
Many bettors who included Bayern Munich in their betting list yesterday failed. That's a surprise. For those who have analyzed Bayern Munich's performance, perhaps including Bayern Munich in the betting list is not the winner.

They wasted unbelievable goal chances also. Upamecano's very dangerous foul just brought their end. I think he definitely deserved the red card there even though it wasn't intentional.
Upamecano's violation was not done intentionally. Upamecano did not intend to make a tackle that could injure a Lazio player because Upamecano's position was only to try to block when the Lazio player kicked towards Manuel Neuer's goal.

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February 15, 2024, 12:15:58 PM
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Having more trust in Bayern Munich is what makes everyone think they will win the game, forgetting that Lazio has a well-arranged set of defenses. which Lazio end up playing a defense game since they know their opponent Bayern Munich is a stronger team than them. To me precisely, I will say that Bayern Munich should go and focus more on their performance to face Lazio in the second leg and to make sure they are able to have not less than 2 goals; if not, they will definitely be knocked out by Lazio. It will be very disappointing to see such a strong team knocked out by Lazio in the round of 16; that means they were not even able to meet up to the quarterfinals. It will definitely look somehow for a team like Bayern Munich.

Things like this are happening. People have too much hope for Bayern Munich that they are going to win the game, so it surprises everybody that they lost to Lozio, and it's too bad for a team like Bayern Munich to lose to Lozio because Lozio is a weak team when compared to Bayern Munich's current performance. Seriously, Lozio were lucky to win the game, and it was tough for Bayern Munich to break their defense because that is what Lozio did in that game; they played defensive game. Although I know that they played defensive game, even if Bayern Munich scores, it shouldn't be much, but it happens to be that they are the lucky people to win the match.
Lazio are undoubtedly weaker than Bayern, but this is football and one red card can decide the outcome of any match. I think that in the next game in Bayern Lazio will lose with a completely different score, so not all is lost for Bayern. But yesterday was a good lesson for them.

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February 15, 2024, 12:17:14 PM
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I wish I didn't add Bayern Munich to win to my parlay also.  Cry  I hoped to see a day with no surprise results again but I shouldn't have been very optimistic about that. I was confident about PSG but was having second thoughts about Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich just showed a terrible performance last night. 17 shots but 0 on target...

They wasted unbelievable goal chances also. Upamecano's very dangerous foul just brought their end. I think he definitely deserved the red card there even though it wasn't intentional.

Probably we will watch a way better Bayern Munich in Germany but there is no return for my loss.  Sad

The way Bayern Munich is playing these days seems to be very bad; what is going on with the team? With the way they are playing right now, I'm not even sure if they can make it to the champion league quarterfinals. Is the coach at fault or the players' performance on the team? Since every player involved in the game is a member of Bayern Munich, I must admit that I was quite disappointed in Bayern Munich yesterday. Although they have a strong team, it will be difficult for them to overcome Lazio in their second leg, and if they don't perform well there, they won't be able to advance to the Champions League quarterfinals.

This season, I think PSG can make it to the quarterfinals. The only thing that can stop PSG from winning the champion league is that they lack good players; they have been trying for many years, but they haven't succeeded. If PSG puts in more effort this season, I think they can advance far in the champion league. My initial thought was that Bayern Munich would even play more than PSG, and PSG later win the game without any stress after the match.

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February 15, 2024, 12:29:46 PM
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Things were going relatively well with Tuchel before the winter.
But if we look at the last few games, we can see that the team is playing against the coach. Tuchel must overcome the egos of his players.
Musala thought he was Messi and Sane was Ronaldo.
Coaches and all players must be questioned, and cannot stop at just the big names. The team needs to wash it thoroughly.

Lazio has a strong defense and came up with a good game plan.
Now, they are 1 goal up, have a strong defense, and have two weeks to develop a game plan to prevent Bayern from scoring two goals.
Lazio has a greater chance of qualifying for the next round.


Well, this is the unique thing about football, we didn't even think that Bayern would lose in the match against Lazio. as we know, Di Rotten lost, conceding a penalty goal from Ciro Immobile in the 69th minute. referring to statistics, it shows that Bayern Munich was only able to take 17 kicks throughout the match without a single shot on target. in fact, Harry Kane admitted that Bayern Munich appeared disappointing in the second half. with this result, my predictions failed miserably regarding Bayern Munich. I didn't think the result would be like this. To be honest, I didn't watch this match. however, referring to match statistics, Bayern controlled more than 61% of ball possession.

On the other hand, Lazio was lucky to get a penalty kick. Ciro's only goal was from the penalty spot, bringing Lazio to win last night's battle. even in terms of opportunities, Lazio is much better than Bayern Munich in this match. I'm quite sure, there are many of us who experienced defeat in the Lazio vs Bayern Munich match. in the second leg, like it or not, Thucel will have to defeat Lazio at the Alian Arena with a landslide score. thus, Bayern has the right to qualify for the next phase. otherwise, Tuchel's position with the Bavarians will be threatened.

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February 15, 2024, 12:37:01 PM
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I will not blame the red card received by Upamecano because from the start Bayern Munich played very badly. How can it be that one of the teams that is nominated to win the Champions League this season can't even break into Lazio's goal and they couldn't even get a single shot on target in last night's match. It is very strange to see Bayern Munich's performance continuing to decline since the defeat against Leverkusen in the domestic league.

On the other hand, I see that Lazio is even better and can control the tempo of the match as much as they want. Even though we know that Lazio can only put up a strong defense when facing a team that has an attacking style like Bayern Munich, they can at least shoot on target 4 times. Well, Lazio's only goal was scored by Immobile from the penalty spot and that was because of a foul committed by Upamecano. In the second leg, Bayern Munich must be able to reverse the aggregate if they don't want to be embarrassed in front of their fans.
I have a different view on this, because it is undeniable that the goals that Laazio can create come from there so that they can create the only goals that come in this match. But I don't mean to blame, because in a match anything can happen.
Here Lazio clearly managed to apply a defense that was very difficult to penetrate, so Bayern Munich did not have many open opportunities that they could convert into goals. Apart from that, Bayern Munich failed to be creative in building attacks, they could not find weak points that could be exploited. Perhaps Lazio's victory can be said to be lucky and can be said not, because they cannot be said to be lucky because they show solid defense, while it can be said to be lucky because of the goals that were born due to Bayern Munich's mistakes.
That's right and because of that Lazio deserved to win the match even if it was just a goal from a penalty kick. They never tire of always putting pressure on Bayern Munich and while playing at home they make good use of it to be able to break into the goal guarded by Manuel Neuer. As a result, Upamecano had to commit a foul which resulted in him having to be sent off from the field and if Lazio had just defended it the result would have definitely been a draw.

Bayern Munich couldn't do anything and looking at the statistics they only shot 10 times off target and had 17 goal attempts but they didn't score a single goal. It is indeed quite complicated regarding Lazio's victory, but in my opinion it was pure hard work and I don't see it as mere luck. Lazio are said to be lucky if they are just lazy or focus on defense only and the proof is that they dare to attack against a team that is superior to them.

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February 15, 2024, 12:52:21 PM
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Having more trust in Bayern Munich is what makes everyone think they will win the game, forgetting that Lazio has a well-arranged set of defenses. which Lazio end up playing a defence game since they know their opponent Bayern Munich is a stronger team than them. To me precisely, I will say that Bayern Munich should go and focus more on their performance to face Lazio in the second leg and to make sure they are able to have not less than 2 goals; if not, they will definitely be knocked out by Lazio. It will be very disappointing to see such a strong team knocked out by Lazio in the round of 16; that means they were not even able to meet up to the quarterfinals. It will definitely look somehow for a team like Bayern Munich. 
In my opinion. Actually, Bayern Munich's current problem lies with its coach Tuchel. As you said Bayer Munich is a giant club, this is a fact. Neuer is still performing well after recovering from injury, this is also a fact. And Kane is the world's top striker at the moment, this is also a fact. I'm not a fan of Munich. But in my opinion, Tuchel has really shown that he is not worthy of coaching Bayern Munich, it's as simple as that.

In the first leg match against Lazio, apart from successfully beating Bayern Munich, they also had zero shots on target against Lazio. Lazio was able to fire 4 shots on target, it must be admitted that typical Italian defense was very good in this match.
It's true, after beating Lazio in the first leg, Bayern Munich still has a chance in the second leg. However, now many people doubt that Bayern Munich will remain a candidate to win this season after losing to Lazio. And the saddest thing is, if Bayern Munich collapses in the round of 16, it means that Kane's hopes of winning his first trophy will be dashed again.

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February 15, 2024, 12:56:26 PM
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Like everyone else, I thought Bayern Munich would win, but they lost. I really didn't expect this result.
Lazio has an advantage now, but the next game will be played in Germany and they need to be very careful because their opponent is Bayern Munich.


We do not expect this to be the result of Bayern Munich against Lazio. Bayern Munich's performance has been worse this season. Before the started of the game, I had my doubts about Bayern Munich's performance against Lazio because their winning ways is difference from last season. Despite this, i thought Bayern Munich would win the game easily and wasn't expecting them to lose in the end. They had more ball control than Lazio in the first half, they just lacked goals, Bayern Munich lost because of the red card and penalty that ruined everything. Lazio has already taken the lead with one goal, however, Bayern Munich will need to step up their game in their second leg. I don't think they will disappoint at home.

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PSG got a comfortable win. 2-0 is enough for them and they will go through to the next round.

I thought PSG would struggle to score even one goal against Sociedad. Real Sociedad is not good enough to compete with PSG, even in their next game, after watching their performance against PSG, I think PSG will still win.

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February 15, 2024, 12:57:14 PM
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I will not blame the red card received by Upamecano because from the start Bayern Munich played very badly. How can it be that one of the teams that is nominated to win the Champions League this season can't even break into Lazio's goal and they couldn't even get a single shot on target in last night's match. It is very strange to see Bayern Munich's performance continuing to decline since the defeat against Leverkusen in the domestic league.

On the other hand, I see that Lazio is even better and can control the tempo of the match as much as they want. Even though we know that Lazio can only put up a strong defense when facing a team that has an attacking style like Bayern Munich, they can at least shoot on target 4 times. Well, Lazio's only goal was scored by Immobile from the penalty spot and that was because of a foul committed by Upamecano. In the second leg, Bayern Munich must be able to reverse the aggregate if they don't want to be embarrassed in front of their fans.
I have a different view on this, because it is undeniable that the goals that Laazio can create come from there so that they can create the only goals that come in this match. But I don't mean to blame, because in a match anything can happen.
Here Lazio clearly managed to apply a defense that was very difficult to penetrate, so Bayern Munich did not have many open opportunities that they could convert into goals. Apart from that, Bayern Munich failed to be creative in building attacks, they could not find weak points that could be exploited. Perhaps Lazio's victory can be said to be lucky and can be said not, because they cannot be said to be lucky because they show solid defense, while it can be said to be lucky because of the goals that were born due to Bayern Munich's mistakes.
Actually, I get your point, and Lazio's performance was impressive. Bayern could not break through their brick-wall defense. I suppose their purpose is grasping the moment, not luck. I saw 15 shots from Bayern, but none were on target. Since Lazio's defense was so strong, Bayern's attempts looked desperate and uncalculated. Lazio won by keeping Bayern at bay and taking their chances.

I agree regarding Bayern's, or lack thereof, originality. They struggled to explain Lazio's setup. Bayern has a tough second leg. They need to break Lazio's defense, which is difficult. The Lazio win wasnt luck, in my opinion. The team showed up, played hard, and most importantly capitalized. To turn things around, Bayern must improve.

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February 15, 2024, 01:01:01 PM
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I have a different view on this, because it is undeniable that the goals that Laazio can create come from there so that they can create the only goals that come in this match. But I don't mean to blame, because in a match anything can happen.
Here Lazio clearly managed to apply a defense that was very difficult to penetrate, so Bayern Munich did not have many open opportunities that they could convert into goals. Apart from that, Bayern Munich failed to be creative in building attacks, they could not find weak points that could be exploited. Perhaps Lazio's victory can be said to be lucky and can be said not, because they cannot be said to be lucky because they show solid defense, while it can be said to be lucky because of the goals that were born due to Bayern Munich's mistakes.
Is a team like Bayern Munich suffering from the Harry Kane curse? I hope such feelings are not true. Because after all, it was quite strange that against Lazio, Bayern was ahead but unable to score. There were no shots on target either. So in this second leg, playing at home should be a place for revenge because it could be that Lazio, who have won 3 points, can be more aggressive in defending them.
It is truly unfortunate that Harry Kane, despite being the top scorer, still gives Bayern Munich the same fate as Tottenham. This is just my opinion and it doesn't seem like Tuchel has learned from his mistakes either. In essence in my opinion Tuchel needs to synchronize with the players, because if you look at the strategy the Bayern Munich players don't seem to enjoy what Tuchel is implementing.

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February 15, 2024, 01:09:26 PM
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The only surprise result in this week's Champions League matches was Lazio's home defeat to Bayern Munich.It was not difficult to predict the outcome of the other matches, but Leipzig could have at least drawn with Real Madrid, but Real Madrid was focused on the match as they really want to go all the way this season and succeed in every competition. The winners will most probably be Real Madrid, City, PSG and Bayern Munich.Although Bayern Munich lost 1-0 away, I think they will be the ones to win 3-0 at home.There are some good matches in the next week and I can't wait to watch them.

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February 15, 2024, 01:27:39 PM
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The only surprise result in this week's Champions League matches was Lazio's home defeat to Bayern Munich.It was not difficult to predict the outcome of the other matches, but Leipzig could have at least drawn with Real Madrid, but Real Madrid was focused on the match as they really want to go all the way this season and succeed in every competition. The winners will most probably be Real Madrid, City, PSG and Bayern Munich.Although Bayern Munich lost 1-0 away, I think they will be the ones to win 3-0 at home.There are some good matches in the next week and I can't wait to watch them.

I hope so but things may be so difficult for bayern to score in the second leg caused by lazio may be going fully defensive against bayern. bayern was not even able creating goal attempt which is a shame as a club that has 100 millions striker owned by the club. Bayern needs to perform better in the second leg or it will out from UCL.
Im sure lazio is trying so hard to learn the strategy used by bayern munich. Im feeling that tuchel may be sacked by the club if bayern will be out from UCL. Having 1 goal aggregate is not something difficult to surpass. The only problem when its opponent used everything to defend at the second half
Playing at home may be boosting the mentality from the club but we can also expect snowball to happen with bayern munich. This is also impacting the performance from the club too. The performance from bayern so damn and it's fuckin bad.
It's terrible to watch bayern munich's gameplay against asroma. The performance from bayern is fuckin joke. This club being so clueless in the match against lazio.

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After watching the last 16 games so far, I don’t see any other team being capable of beating Man City. I know anything can happen but Bayern were incredibly poor, PSG always choke. My hope is Real Madrid rise to the big occasion like they so often do. Man City embarrassed them last season though. Hopefully Bellingham makes a difference for them this season.

Barcelona are a pale shadow of what they once were, I just don’t see any credible challengers to Man City and I really don’t want them to win it again. It leaves a sour taste in the mouth with them because of all the financial charges they face for cheating.
Man City has indeed had quite an impressive performance, and it is very appropriate for them to be considered as one of the strong candidates in the Champions League. If you look at the performance of other teams, I think there are only 2 teams that could be a stumbling block for Man City, that is Real Madrid and Arsenal. Why Arsenal? Usually when the two teams that meet in the Champions League come from the same League, then it will give its own prestige, and I think with the form that Arsenal is having at the moment, it will make it a fifty-fifty chance for both teams.

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I hate it when I lose a bet because a team fails so miserably. I mean don't get me wrong, when I bet on a game that I know there is a risk, I am fine with it but it has to be like a team worked hard and still lost. I have wagered against big name clubs too before, so losing was normal in those cases.

But, when I see a team like Bayern, who should get the win and still lose, because they lacked the effort, that makes me feel furious. They didn't even try, they have been horrible, the yare just broken. I mean at this stage I am starting to believe that the Kane curse is actually very real, it looks like he is not that good at all, and it could be very dangerous for the whole team as well. Look how terrible their results have been in all competitions since he joined.

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February 15, 2024, 01:45:17 PM
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But, when I see a team like Bayern, who should get the win and still lose, because they lacked the effort, that makes me feel furious. They didn't even try, they have been horrible, the yare just broken. I mean at this stage I am starting to believe that the Kane curse is actually very real, it looks like he is not that good at all, and it could be very dangerous for the whole team as well. Look how terrible their results have been in all competitions since he joined.
Kane's curse. Cheesy

But it make sense, he only got Audi Cup and International Champions Cup in his entire career even though he gives a lot contribution. Too bad for Kane, Bayern Munich which we know is easily win in Bundesliga, might not win in this season. While in Champions League, it seems Bayern Munich isn't the one of toughest team among the others.

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Having more trust in Bayern Munich is what makes everyone think they will win the game, forgetting that Lazio has a well-arranged set of defenses. which Lazio end up playing a defence game since they know their opponent Bayern Munich is a stronger team than them. To me precisely, I will say that Bayern Munich should go and focus more on their performance to face Lazio in the second leg and to make sure they are able to have not less than 2 goals; if not, they will definitely be knocked out by Lazio. It will be very disappointing to see such a strong team knocked out by Lazio in the round of 16; that means they were not even able to meet up to the quarterfinals. It will definitely look somehow for a team like Bayern Munich.  
Although I did not expect that Bayern lost by Lazio. But I remember last season's UCL where clubs from Serie A were able to progress further than the other strongest clubs. And I think this time the same thing could happen. Last season there were 3 Serie A clubs who managed to qualify for the round of 16 and all three also continued to advance to the quarter-finals and 2 clubs continued to the semi-finals. Well, this illustrates that the clubs from Serie A are really strong. And now Lazio being able to beat Bayern also surprised us all. But if you remember last season, everything will look normal. It's just that last season Milan were the ones who qualified but this season Lazio are the ones who qualified. And actually Lazio is not in optimal condition in Serie A. But it was very surprising to see Bayern lose to Lazio. But the fortunate thing is that Bayern only lost narrowly by 1 point. So Bayern still has a chance to qualify if they can score at least 2 goals in the second leg and can't let Lazio score.

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