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April 10, 2024, 08:35:06 AM
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Arsenal have really tried to make things happen but unfortunately it didn't work out, they really tried their best even by equalising the second goal, this alone will allow them to have breadth air, at least the have less to defend for finishing draw.
Arsenal played well, they deserve the draw and Bayern played well as well even as people were expecting them to beat Arsenal since they have been the team eliminating Arsenal in the past, but today’s performance shows that this is Arsenal of different level because they fought hard to secure a draw in the match.
Nevertheless, this is an advantage for Bayern because play at Alenz Arena will be of Bayern’s advantage because they will be playing in front of their fans.
I am still hoping that Arsenal can do something.
In my view the draw was less deserving for Arsenal haven possessed the game in the much part of the whole time of the game, they had huge dominance than I had imagined they will playing against Bayern Munich but it's so disappointing that playing a weak Bayern team for the first time in many years Arsenal couldn't grab a win even in their home ground. Their chances to survive at the Alenz Arena is not a thing of debate because obviously if they couldn't get a win at their home from a weak Bayern Munich is it at Bayern Munich home arsenal can get a win. No, am not sure, except they just get lucky.
So true, and I completely agree with your points above since arsenal has overhauled its squad under the new management and owner. It's been a long time since last game Arsenal played against Bayern munich and it has proven that how arsenal has lower qualify compared to the bayern. Arsenal has undergone numerous changes in its squad, management, and even the owner, but beating Bayern Munich remains a difficult task for Arsenal and this is also showing that if bayern is still superior compared to the arsenal at this moment.
I'm overjoyed with this result because it means Bayern Munich will have a better chance of eliminating Arsenal from the competition in the future and i hope arsenal will leave from UCL caused by it's too weak to compete in the UCL this time. I appreciate all of the work from Arsenal's former player Gnabry, who gave an outstanding performance against the Gunners at Emirates Stadium and it was so amazing to see that happens.
People have high expectations that Arsenal will destroy Bayern when they are still weak, but I appreciate that Arsenal has tried everything they can to beat Bayern, but it has all failed and bayern showed that how good the performance from the club. Bayern is too strong for Arsenal and im hoping arsenal will able to show better performance.
This is the truth, and I am confident that Bayern will use the home game to destroy Arsenal, proving that Arsenal is still as weak as it was last season when it lost to Sporting in the Europa League.

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April 10, 2024, 08:36:10 AM
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To be honest, I was not at all satisfied with Bayern Munich's performance. I expected a better performance from Munich. Munich have performed poorly in the last two matches in the Bundesliga. However, I was optimistic that the team would do well in the Champions League match.

Although Bayern Munich did not play well enough, they did not lose this match. A draw away match is definitely a good result for Munich. However, even after performing well in the home match, the Arsenal team failed to win. It is now more difficult for Arsenal to win away matches and qualify for the next round.
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Well, the Real - City match, as for me, met all expectations, a lot of goals is always spectacular. In general, I liked City more and my opinion is that if Ederson City had been in the gate, they could have won this match, but this is just my guess. I think Guardiola should be happy with the result, and they will try to win the home match.

Real Madrid team is always strong at home. However, Manchester City's players managed to perform well at home to Madrid as the match ended in a 3-3 draw. I'd say it's a good enough result for Madrid. Both teams performed well.

The second leg match will be more competitive. City are favorites in Manchester City's home match and there's no telling if they'll win. Real Madrid proved in the first leg that they are no longer dependent on Bellingham's performance alone. Madrid are now strong and stable as a team. So both the teams are likely to win in the second leg match as well.

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It was a dream night for me honestly.  Grin  This could really be the best way to start a Champions League quarter final phase. We watched 10 goals in 2 games which is insane! I watched Real Madrid - Manchester City and I'm so happy to choose that one to watch. Both halves were very entertaining. Imagine a game in which there are 6 goals and all of them are of an incredible kind.

After many comebacks we watched finally it ended by 3-3. I think Manchester City will still eliminate Real Madrid at Etihad but I hope we watch a similar game to this again.  Roll Eyes  We didn't see De Bruyne in the game and Guardiola explained it like he was unwell. This was still no issue for them as they scored three goals.

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April 10, 2024, 08:54:04 AM
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I think Real Madrid and Arsenal are able to put pressure on the visiting club because they have a big chance in the match, but who would have thought that Manchester City and Bayern Munich gave a very good performance which made it difficult for the home club. They managed to hold the home club Bayern Munich to a draw Arsenal with a score of 2:2 and Manchester City held Real Madrid to a draw with a score of 3:3. I also thought there would definitely be lots of goals in their match but I didn't expect the match to be a draw I actually favored the home club, but unfortunately the home club was unable to maintain its advantages.
The last two goals from Manchester City were scored by Phil Foden and Joško Gvardiol due to careless pressure from Real Madrid defenders and how easily for Phil Foden make shots without any block yet. I am so excited with Real Madrid vs Manchester City match because both teams more attractive with offensive by scoring six goals in the first leg match, actually the draw result is not good for Real Madrid upcoming second leg match will against Manchester City as away match.
For second leg matches, Manchester City seems get more benefit after putting Kevin De Bruyne on the bench at the first leg he will be ready for second leg matches and become nightmare for Real Madrid regarding last season he was success give more contribution make Real Madrid eliminated from semifinal round.

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April 10, 2024, 09:28:05 AM
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In my view the draw was less deserving for Arsenal haven possessed the game in the much part of the whole time of the game, they had huge dominance than I had imagined they will playing against Bayern Munich but it's so disappointing that playing a weak Bayern team for the first time in many years Arsenal couldn't grab a win even in their home ground. Their chances to survive at the Alenz Arena is not a thing of debate because obviously if they couldn't get a win at their home from a weak Bayern Munich is it at Bayern Munich home arsenal can get a win. No, am not sure, except they just get lucky.
Great dominance and possession of the ball is actually not a benchmark for a club to win in a match and indeed it happened in this match where we can see even though Arsenal are a little better but we know that today's match is really worth it and even though the draw is actually very worth it, especially seeing the two clubs playing where they are big clubs.

Anyway, the 2 games yesterday were really interesting and I'm happy with the 2 games that happened regardless of the result it was a decent situation that happened because in my opinion the draw even though it didn't really benefit the home club but it was still quite good than not getting a win at all.











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April 10, 2024, 09:34:19 AM
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Arsenal have really tried to make things happen but unfortunately it didn't work out, they really tried their best even by equalising the second goal, this alone will allow them to have breadth air, at least the have less to defend for finishing draw.
Arsenal played well, they deserve the draw and Bayern played well as well even as people were expecting them to beat Arsenal since they have been the team eliminating Arsenal in the past, but today’s performance shows that this is Arsenal of different level because they fought hard to secure a draw in the match.
Nevertheless, this is an advantage for Bayern because play at Alenz Arena will be of Bayern’s advantage because they will be playing in front of their fans.
I am still hoping that Arsenal can do something.
In my view the draw was less deserving for Arsenal haven possessed the game in the much part of the whole time of the game, they had huge dominance than I had imagined they will playing against Bayern Munich but it's so disappointing that playing a weak Bayern team for the first time in many years Arsenal couldn't grab a win even in their home ground. Their chances to survive at the Alenz Arena is not a thing of debate because obviously if they couldn't get a win at their home from a weak Bayern Munich is it at Bayern Munich home arsenal can get a win. No, am not sure, except they just get lucky.
Bayern Munich gained a significant advantage by drawing away. Arsenal competed against the worst Bayern Munich in many years, they should have won this match. A very challenging atmosphere will be waiting for them at Allianz Arena. If Bayern can gain home field advantage, they will definitely advance to the next round.

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It was a dream night for me honestly.  Grin  This could really be the best way to start a Champions League quarter final phase. We watched 10 goals in 2 games which is insane! I watched Real Madrid - Manchester City and I'm so happy to choose that one to watch. Both halves were very entertaining. İmagine a game in which there are 6 goals and all of them are of an incredible kind.

After many comebacks we watched finally it ended by 3-3. I think Manchester City will still eliminate Real Madrid at Etihad but I hope we watch a similar game to this again.  Roll Eyes  We didn't see De Bruyne in the game and Guardiola explained it like he was unwell. This was still no issue for them as they scored three goals.

Real Madrid - Manchester city was an exciting match to say the least. I watched the whole thing and it was a pure spectacle, a very beautiful beat and replay. The first 3 goals came in the first 15 minutes of the game and it was already foreshadowed that it would be a match full of sudden twists and turns, the only sore point was the near absence of the two most expected players, haaland and bellingam were hardly seen throughout the match.

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Arsenal have really tried to make things happen but unfortunately it didn't work out, they really tried their best even by equalising the second goal, this alone will allow them to have breadth air, at least the have less to defend for finishing draw.
Arsenal played well, they deserve the draw and Bayern played well as well even as people were expecting them to beat Arsenal since they have been the team eliminating Arsenal in the past, but today’s performance shows that this is Arsenal of different level because they fought hard to secure a draw in the match.
Nevertheless, this is an advantage for Bayern because play at Alenz Arena will be of Bayern’s advantage because they will be playing in front of their fans.
I am still hoping that Arsenal can do something.
In my view the draw was less deserving for Arsenal haven possessed the game in the much part of the whole time of the game, they had huge dominance than I had imagined they will playing against Bayern Munich but it's so disappointing that playing a weak Bayern team for the first time in many years Arsenal couldn't grab a win even in their home ground. Their chances to survive at the Alenz Arena is not a thing of debate because obviously if they couldn't get a win at their home from a weak Bayern Munich is it at Bayern Munich home arsenal can get a win. No, am not sure, except they just get lucky.
Bayern Munich gained a significant advantage by drawing away. Arsenal competed against the worst Bayern Munich in many years, they should have won this match. A very challenging atmosphere will be waiting for them at Allianz Arena. If Bayern can gain home field advantage, they will definitely advance to the next round.
Bayern Munich is in their worst form this season, and that was why Arsenal was able to draw the match. Arsenal is in their super form, and the only thing they could do was to fight for a draw in Emirates stadium. However, a draw is better than losing, since both teams needs to struggle their way out in the second leg, and that will be on how they play on that day.

Bayern Munich on the one hand, might not be able to win the game as expected Allianz area, because they are not the Munich that we use to know anymore. So I cannot put my hope on them to win the match, I am on 50-50 chance that any of them can win the game.

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April 10, 2024, 09:47:50 AM
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Real Madrid - Manchester city was an exciting match to say the least. I watched the whole thing and it was a pure spectacle, a very beautiful beat and replay. The first 3 goals came in the first 15 minutes of the game and it was already foreshadowed that it would be a match full of sudden twists and turns
Many goals, three for each team, and things in the match changed very quickly. From 0 - 1, Real Madrid turned it to 2 - 1 within 5 minutes and in the second half, from 1 - 2, Manchester City turned it to 3 - 2 very quickly, again within about 5 minutes.

In latest seasons, Real Madrid did not have comfortable experience at Etihad stadium and they lost their with many conceded goals, 3 - 4 and 0 - 4. This draw at Bernabeu stadium is not a good result for Real Madrid and with latest bad results home away, big challenge is waiting for them next week.

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the only sore point was the near absence of the two most expected players, haaland and bellingam were hardly seen throughout the match.
It's normal to see Haaland was controlled by Rudiger but Jude looked not too ready for the match. He looked tired that affect his performance a lot but we can see Foden, did not create any danger to Real Madrid in the first half but suddenly played better in the second half, two distant shots and one of them turned to an equalizer for Manchester City.

A match at Etihad stadium might be another goal-productive match between them.

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April 10, 2024, 09:50:08 AM
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Arsenal and Munich achieved a 2:2 draw. Arsenal's chance of qualifying for the semifinals seems unlikely because in the second leg Munich has a bigger chance because they are playing at home, but if Arsenal can hold a draw like Munich did in this match then both teams will still have the opportunity to take a penalty and it will be quite difficult to predict who will qualify for the semifinals.
I have been predict this match before that i said although Arsenal is the favourite but pick them as betting option is a bit risky because although Arsenal performance at their domestic league is unstoppable but there is no guarantee they will extended their fantastic records on Champion league this because the atmosphere of Champion league is very different compared to Premier League and now it just happend that Arsenal only can playing draw and for second leg indeed Bayern Munich performance in Bundesliga is decline but i still considers them as strong team in Champion league and at Allianz Arena i think obviously Bayern Munich can overcomes Arsenal and advances to semifinal

And for the match Real Madrid vs Manchester City apparently Real Madrid still cannot improved their meeting records from Manchester City that although they were playing at their home but unfortunately Real Madrid only playing draw from Manchester City even they have to hard struggling to gets draw result from this match and for second leg obviously Manchester City has good chances to win the match and my prediction for second leg is Manchester City will beat Real Madrid

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April 10, 2024, 09:50:43 AM
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In my view the draw was less deserving for Arsenal haven possessed the game in the much part of the whole time of the game, they had huge dominance than I had imagined they will playing against Bayern Munich but it's so disappointing that playing a weak Bayern team for the first time in many years Arsenal couldn't grab a win even in their home ground. Their chances to survive at the Alenz Arena is not a thing of debate because obviously if they couldn't get a win at their home from a weak Bayern Munich is it at Bayern Munich home arsenal can get a win. No, am not sure, except they just get lucky.

Arsenal really start the game very well but they later became too soft which cost them the game. But I wonder why you feel disappointed in Arsenal for not defeating Bayern Munich. If not for the recent set back Bayern is having, they are not in any way match with Arsenal. Despite Bayern's recent challenges, I did not expect Arsenal to play to this extent and even end up with a draw result. It was a good result for Arsenal to me.

With no doubt, Allianz Arena is going to be like hell for Arsenal. As predicted, Arsenal failed to grab the victory at their backyard with stadium full with their supporters and it will be Bayern's turn to fill their stadium with their own supporters too on the return leg. Bayern still remains the favorite since they are not longer competing for their domestic league title again, their focus will now be totally on the UCL title. Arsenal away records are not too bad and you know football is full of surprises, they might turn things around on the second leg thou I doubt the possibility but we have to cross our leg and watch when the time comes.











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April 10, 2024, 09:52:41 AM
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Arsenal have really tried to make things happen but unfortunately it didn't work out, they really tried their best even by equalising the second goal, this alone will allow them to have breadth air, at least the have less to defend for finishing draw.
Arsenal played well, they deserve the draw and Bayern played well as well even as people were expecting them to beat Arsenal since they have been the team eliminating Arsenal in the past, but today’s performance shows that this is Arsenal of different level because they fought hard to secure a draw in the match.
Nevertheless, this is an advantage for Bayern because play at Alenz Arena will be of Bayern’s advantage because they will be playing in front of their fans.
I am still hoping that Arsenal can do something.
In my view the draw was less deserving for Arsenal haven possessed the game in the much part of the whole time of the game, they had huge dominance than I had imagined they will playing against Bayern Munich but it's so disappointing that playing a weak Bayern team for the first time in many years Arsenal couldn't grab a win even in their home ground. Their chances to survive at the Alenz Arena is not a thing of debate because obviously if they couldn't get a win at their home from a weak Bayern Munich is it at Bayern Munich home arsenal can get a win. No, am not sure, except they just get lucky.
Bayern Munich gained a significant advantage by drawing away. Arsenal competed against the worst Bayern Munich in many years, they should have won this match. A very challenging atmosphere will be waiting for them at Allianz Arena. If Bayern can gain home field advantage, they will definitely advance to the next round.
Bayern Munich is in their worst form this season, and that was why Arsenal was able to draw the match. Arsenal is in their super form, and the only thing they could do was to fight for a draw in Emirates stadium. However, a draw is better than losing, since both teams needs to struggle their way out in the second leg, and that will be on how they play on that day.

Bayern Munich on the one hand, might not be able to win the game as expected Allianz area, because they are not the Munich that we use to know anymore. So I cannot put my hope on them to win the match, I am on 50-50 chance that any of them can win the game.
I think the odds are 50-50 now. Just as Bayern Munich drew 2-2 in England, Arsenal can score a lot of goals away and maybe win. Their only path to the championship is through this tournament. They have to be the best in the tournament to win the championship, and the first target for this will be the rematch.

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April 10, 2024, 10:02:22 AM
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We watched two excellent matches. In fact, I didn't expect so many goals, I thought the teams would play more controlled, but the individual performances of the players were at the highest level and they scored excellent goals. The Champions League is really the pinnacle, and these teams are the best in the world. They proved it again. It's not a coincidence for any of them to be here. They are here because they are the best teams with the best players. I can't wait for the rematches, they are incredible matches. It's completely uncertain who will advance.
I was striked with their very performances, both matches where very much interesting with fascinating goals that is just unbelievable. Arsenal played really good but my intentions was for them to win tonights game very sad how they nearly lost it till Trossard came in to equalize. I think comparing both matches, City VS Madrid was the most interesting, really best of the best competing and compulsory how one must drop for the other to move on, the match was the toughest as both teams scored brilliant goals. It seems I'm the only one here bothered why Debruyne wasn't featured in the match.

Manchester City got the result they wanted on the road in this match. Haaland's performance was bad. The game lacked pace in general but the goals took the game to another level. Modric should definitely play in the starting eleven in the second leg. Because Modric kept the ball in Real Madrid's possession after he came on in this game, he carried the ball well before the goal and Vinicius Jr assisted Valverde skillfully.

Modric's vision of the game is tremendous. Real Madrid were very closed in defense and closed the penalty area well, but the goals they conceded from outside the penalty area show that their defense needs to be questioned. Surprise goals changed the fate of the game and I think Manchester City are the favorites to go through in the second leg.
Perhaps Haaland is not to blame for such a mediocre game, because you can see that Manchester City players often ignore him and almost do not pass to him, and to put pressure alone is extremely difficult, especially against a team like Real Madrid, so in this match Haaland again looked bad.

Apparently Manchester will really be the favorite in the next game, but I think that is not too obvious and the chances for City to come out I think 55-60%, but this is if Real have all the leaders will be ready to play, if the lineup will be Bellingham, Vinicius and Modric.


I don't know, I feel like history may repeat itself like it did last season... City were able to make a very difficult task away, which will most likely be a defeat for Real Madrid in the next game... They don't have any advantage to win in Manchester... Of course it could be a battle like yesterday, but City are definitely favourites at home...
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Real Madrid - Manchester city was an exciting match to say the least. I watched the whole thing and it was a pure spectacle, a very beautiful beat and replay. The first 3 goals came in the first 15 minutes of the game and it was already foreshadowed that it would be a match full of sudden twists and turns, the only sore point was the near absence of the two most expected players, haaland and bellingam were hardly seen throughout the match.
Two of the best clubs met early to put on a great show, in fact it was the best match in a couple of seasons, more goals, more attacks, Real Madrid had the better of the counter attacks that's what we saw in this match.

Arsenal vs Bayern Munich was also interesting but I was stunned by the big match Real Madrid vs Man City because it was obviously a match that was watched all over the world, even though my bet was not right but we were very entertained by this match.

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It was a dream night for me honestly.  Grin  This could really be the best way to start a Champions League quarter final phase. We watched 10 goals in 2 games which is insane! I watched Real Madrid - Manchester City and I'm so happy to choose that one to watch. Both halves were very entertaining. İmagine a game in which there are 6 goals and all of them are of an incredible kind.

After many comebacks we watched finally it ended by 3-3. I think Manchester City will still eliminate Real Madrid at Etihad but I hope we watch a similar game to this again.  Roll Eyes  We didn't see De Bruyne in the game and Guardiola explained it like he was unwell. This was still no issue for them as they scored three goals.
Yes that's right. I was very entertained by last night's match. Both clubs showed the beauty of football and the six goals were very classy for both teams.

I just realized that not all teams have a good philosophy in playing football. So far Carlo Ancelotti is good at coaching and able to play effectively. Effective play is Carlo's philosophy. He was once a weak coach when coaching Everton because he got players with poor quality. With a good team, Ancelotti can play a good game like in Madrid.

Regarding Pep Guardiola's philosophy, he is a coach who has a mixed philosophy of Tiki Taka and short offensive passes that lock in the opponent's defense. And so far Pep Guardiola has been quite successful because he is at a club full of quality players. It is not surprising that their second meeting with a good team produced astonishing results. Both teams still have the same chance of qualifying for the semifinals. I think the second leg will be more exciting.











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April 10, 2024, 10:23:11 AM
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It was a dream night for me honestly.  Grin  This could really be the best way to start a Champions League quarter final phase. We watched 10 goals in 2 games which is insane! I watched Real Madrid - Manchester City and I'm so happy to choose that one to watch. Both halves were very entertaining. İmagine a game in which there are 6 goals and all of them are of an incredible kind.

After many comebacks we watched finally it ended by 3-3. I think Manchester City will still eliminate Real Madrid at Etihad but I hope we watch a similar game to this again.  Roll Eyes  We didn't see De Bruyne in the game and Guardiola explained it like he was unwell. This was still no issue for them as they scored three goals.
At least I am also satisfied with the number of goals in that match. Both teams played very fiercely and showed the quality of their respective games. It's just that for Real Madrid this may not be satisfactory enough. because of course they hope to win in the home match. But all that happened was that the match resulted in a draw. And this is the same as last season. So Man City might be able to benefit more in the second leg when they host it later.

I also saw that Arsenal and Bayern got a draw in the first leg match. In the end, I didn't watch much of Arsenal's matches. because I became too focused on the Man City and Real Madrid match. But I saw the footage and yes I can say that the Arsenal vs Bayern match was also very extraordinary.

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April 10, 2024, 10:25:01 AM
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Yes that's right. I was very entertained by last night's match. Both clubs showed the beauty of football and the six goals were very classy for both teams.

I just realized that not all teams have a good philosophy in playing football. So far Carlo Ancelotti is good at coaching and able to play effectively. Effective play is Carlo's philosophy. He was once a weak coach when coaching Everton because he got players with poor quality. With a good team, Ancelotti can play a good game like in Madrid.

Regarding Pep Guardiola's philosophy, he is a coach who has a mixed philosophy of Tiki Taka and short offensive passes that lock in the opponent's defense. And so far Pep Guardiola has been quite successful because he is at a club full of quality players. It is not surprising that their second meeting with a good team produced astonishing results. Both teams still have the same chance of qualifying for the semifinals. I think the second leg will be more exciting.

It was a beautiful confrontation between two different strategies, and it was a little surprising to see how Real sometimes pressed close to their goal and allowed City to carry out positional attacks, there are probably only a few teams in the world, who can play like that against Real Madrid. The match turned out to be very good, Guardiola probably achieved his goal, City did not lose, and just a little was not enough to win.

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April 10, 2024, 10:26:27 AM
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What a match from those four teams, it make people will be hard to predict the second leg results because they're equal.

I think we need to move on, two upcoming matches Atletico Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and PSG vs Barcelona will be interesting to watch.

Both Atletico Madrid and Borussia Dortmund are inconsistent while both PSG and Barcelona are consistent because they haven't lose since February.

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It was a football feast yesterday definitely!  Grin

Have you noticed that all the time Real Madrid - Manchester City matches are very enjoyable to follow? I remember a match Real Madrid won by 4-3 before and this one also ended by a score like 3-3. Both sides did their best to win and I can't say one side deserved more than the other. Thankfully Real Madrid showed a really good performance to make the match more entertaining. I was afraid of them to play like they did against Leipzig.  Sad

It was a really unfortunate result for Arsenal also. I really wanted them to win. But if you can't win home then I don't have much hope in the rematch...

By the way Saka's penalty should have been given in the last moments. I think it was also a big referee mistake and this might not be the only one too...





By the way have you seen this? This is an AI prediction for next Champions League winners until 2103. Still no Arsenal...  Tongue

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April 10, 2024, 10:29:12 AM
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There was a 100% penalty for Arsenal when the Bayern goalkeeper stopped Bukayo Saka. What's the point of having VAR, when such obvious situations aren't considered a foul? I don't know why Tomas Tuchel also wanted a penalty. An Arsenal player touched the ball with hands, because he didn't know that the game wasn't stopped by the referee. This doesn't seem like a legit reason to get a penalty.
Anyway, lots of goals in this round of the Champions League, which is great for the neutral fans like me. Manchester City and Real Madrid also did a great game with beautiful goals by Phil Foden and Federico Valverde. I expect City to finally eliminate Real Madrid in the next match in England.

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