UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

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Losing and winning in one match is normal for all teams, but when the favorite team loses in one match then many users will be surprised by it. Real Madrid was not expected to lose in the final at all, so everyone would be surprised if Dortmund could beat Madrid.

I'm not a Dortmund fan and I'm not a Real Madrid fan either. I still think that Real Madrid are the favorites because of the depth of the squad and their performance this season, but Real Madrid can still lose because of their own mistakes and also because Dortmund are playing well. Both teams have the potential to lose or win, but Real Madrid's victory is much more realistic to expect than Dortmund's. I hope you agree with this one, no debate.

Seeing Dortmund succeed in beating Real Madrid was indeed a very surprising thing and at the same time gave us an idea that the impossible can still be won even for the team that is not the favorite. I think everyone knows that beating Real Madrid is impossible, but as long as they don't try and try to beat all the available statistics then they won't know that there is always a miracle waiting.

It's true that mistakes can change the outcome of this final match, especially for Real Madrid, this is definitely an important thing and shouldn't be missed. But Dortmund is also the same, they can't make mistakes if they don't want Real Madrid to win their 15th title easily. So everything will be interconnected and prepared for the worst case scenario.

[ancafe]

Anything is still possible, especially in the final match, but we also have to look realistically, that in all respects, both the strength and mentality of the Real Madrid team are much better than Dotmund, so if there is nothing big. surprise, Real Madrid will be able to win the final match later.

There is no need to doubt Real Madrid's experience, from what they have been through, and they are nicknamed the Champions League kings with the most trophies and that is something that makes their opponents drop a little mentally when they face Real Madrid in the Champions final League.

I don't look at it from a realistic perspective because there may be conditions that make things more complicated as experienced by Leverkusen. Despite all the advantages, Real Madrid is still quite the favorite and I am also sure that Dortmund will not waste the opportunity to make history in the Champions League this season. Real Madrid is indeed the king of the Champions League and that's why most teams feel quite afraid when facing them.

But anything can still happen as long as Dortmund don't make mistakes when facing them and they can take advantage of small opportunities. Dortmund played well in yesterday's semi-final against PSG and if they play like that there is a chance for them to draw or beat Real Madrid.

[BlackBoss_]

Seeing Dortmund succeed in beating Real Madrid was indeed a very surprising thing and at the same time gave us an idea that the impossible can still be won even for the team that is not the favorite. I think everyone knows that beating Real Madrid is impossible, but as long as they don't try and try to beat all the available statistics then they won't know that there is always a miracle waiting.

Real Madrid does not have an unbeaten season so far and beating them is actually impossible.

If other clubs can beat Real Madrid, Dortmund can beat Real Madrid too, even in the Champions League final match. Many years ago, who thought Dortmund will beat Juventus in a Champions League final match but they did it and won a first Champions League title for their club.

Now they will have another chance to win a second Champions League title for their club, after losing another final match some seasons ago against Bayern Munich. Dortmund have less experience than Real Madrid in Champions League final match and most of their current players nearly don't have this experience. It will be advantage of Real Madrid and disadvantage of Dortmund but it's scarce opportunity to win a big title so Dortmund players will play and fight as best as possible to win it.

[klidex]

Dortmund in definitely not at the same level as Real Madrid because they have many more investments so far in Real Madrid while in Dortmund they couldn't do that instead of investing in the team and buying some more exercise players to have better performance in the next games, they just try to sell the young and more expensive players to earn some more money and that's the business plan they have in Dortmund. Now I want to see if this is going to work for Dortmund against Real Madrid or not.

You are right because so far the great players that Dortmund has have been sold to elite clubs so it is possible that Dortmund and Real Madrid's current playing level is not the same because Real Madrid is more concerned with the performance and quality of their club by recruiting players who have more potential than Dortmund. selling great players just to make a lot of profit and not thinking about their performance further, but Dortmund's current achievement of being able to reach the final deserves our appreciation because they have also gone through difficult obstacles but still I differentiate the level of play between Real Madrid and Dortmund .

Dortmund's players are good but not as good as Real Madrid's, even their attack systems are different so I'm not sure Dortmund will be able to beat Real Madrid with their mediocre conditions. I'm sure Real Madrid will carry out a brutal attack when they face Dortmund. Manchester City and Bayern Munich alone can do it. were slaughtered by Real Madrid so why not Dortmund? It is clear that Real Madrid will win the Champions League title again this season and they will again collect many of these prestigious titles.

[Bitcoin_people]

Dortmund in definitely not at the same level as Real Madrid because they have many more investments so far in Real Madrid while in Dortmund they couldn't do that instead of investing in the team and buying some more exercise players to have better performance in the next games, they just try to sell the young and more expensive players to earn some more money and that's the business plan they have in Dortmund. Now I want to see if this is going to work for Dortmund against Real Madrid or not.

We should know how special they can become and how different and straightforward is Real Madrid towards winning their titles. They've fought so hard to reach this stage and will do everything within their possession to ensure they're accumulating good points. Borussia Dortmund does stand a chance to win Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League final? This is simply one of the underrated matches for Los Blancos because they're always leading when the odds involves Real Madrid. 

What is certain is that when 2 teams reach the final, they will make every effort to become winners, no one doubts the strength of Real Madrid everyone knows about it but don't forget that apart from strength a team can also win through luck. This season we saw many surprises in the final match and it is proof that every team can win in many ways, personally I do choose Real Madrid but I wouldn't bet there, I mean not for 1x2 buy yes for both teams to score.

Yes as both the teams have entered the finals in the Champions League and many have picked Real Madrid as the favorite among the two teams to win the trophy here. In the morning, Real Madrid is considered to be the strongest team and they will be the champions of the final match against Dortmund, but many people think that the opposing team is not less strong and they will attack enough to win the match.  But we must accept that we must not be strong but depend on luck. If Real Madrid is not lucky to win the Champions League trophy, then there is no way they can win. We have already seen many strong teams in the Europa League from Leverkusen but Atalanta beat them to win and become champions, here we can talk about luck. Although we may see surprises in this season, we have faith in Real Madrid as our favorite team and they will win the Champions League trophy this season. But there are still players between the two teams to bet on so it's definitely better if you don't bet here. But of course we can expect a much more exciting and interesting game between these two teams in the Champions League.

[JeffBrad12]

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There are reasons why Real Madrid is the bookmakers favorite club to win the UEFA Champions League title this season and almost everyone who knows about the history of both clubs in the competition will agree to the fact that Real Madrid will always be the favorite team to win a final ahead of Borussia Dortmund. Like you said, Marco Reus who will be playing his last game for Borussia Dortmund in that game will do everything possible to try get his hands on club football's most prestigious trophy but I don't think his wishes will come to past in that game.
Real Madrid legend like Toni Kroos will also be playing his last club football game in that game and as a Real Madrid fan that I'm, I can authoritatively tell you that the Real Madrid players will do everything possible to help Kroos win that particular trophy in his last game at the club.

Real Madrid is undoubtedly a better team than Dortmund in every metric. They are also the most popular team in the world with the biggest fanbase worldwide. This fact is expected by bookmakers to attract many bettors to put their bets on Real Madrid. There is no reason for bookmakers not to put Real Madrid as favorite to win the Champions League trophy.

Dortmund may be underdog in this game, but their chance to win the final is still there. They have won one Champions league in 1997 by also being underdog to Juventus. The captain, Marco Reus, will put his best effort on his last game for Dortmund to win the most prestigious trophy for his boyhood club. The game will be a climax of this season football, it's expected to be an intense and attractive game that will lure many emotions.

Dortmund in definitely not at the same level as Real Madrid because they have many more investments so far in Real Madrid while in Dortmund they couldn't do that instead of investing in the team and buying some more exercise players to have better performance in the next games, they just try to sell the young and more expensive players to earn some more money and that's the business plan they have in Dortmund. Now I want to see if this is going to work for Dortmund against Real Madrid or not.

That is the difference between the two clubs.

Real Madrid is always looking to win the title and this is very opposite with dortmund's philosophy. This is extremely different from Dortmund because Terzic's team uses football as a business by buying and developing young players and they took profit from there. They would always sell these players when they demonstrated significant progress in their performances and a big offer came for them.

I'd rather call Dortmund a football player factory because the club has always been effective in developing good players since a long time ago. We can't truly compare Dortmund to the actual Madrid in terms of quality. It's difficult to predict if it'll be effective versus Madrid or not considering that madrid is just getting stronger at this time.

I meant Dortmund has a less capable squad than Real Madrid for winning the UCL. There is also Bellingham, who can tell Ancellotti about the key vulnerability of his former club.

Things have been going so well for Dortmund since it was unfavored to pass the group stage, but it can yet make it to the final.

[Solokan]

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We have seen many times in the past that underdog teams have surprised everyone by winning the Champions League.   No one can predict that Dortmund will qualify for the Champions League final this season.   Dortmund were never favorites for the Champions League. Even then, the team managed to qualify for the finals.

Real Madrid is an experienced team, and coach Ancelotti is also very experienced.   Ancelotti will certainly not underestimate the Dortmund team.   Ancelotti is well aware that Madrid have a high chance of defeat if they take Dortmund lightly.   So there is no doubt that Madrid will play to win. If Madrid can find the weaknesses in Dortmund's defense then I'd say Madrid will win this year's Champions League title as well.

Yes, in matches there are always things like that and they are always full of surprises, sometimes a team that is considered weak can win against a strong team. Dortmund really surprised us all because they unexpectedly would advance to the final and unexpectedly in the two meetings against PSG Dortmund won. But if Real Madrid can advance to the UCL final, of course I don't think it's a surprise because Real Madrid has been there many times. UCL champion.

Ancelotti will definitely not underestimate Dortmund because Ancelotti has definitely seen how strong Dortmund is and of course I see that Ancelotti is really focused on the final match and is really preparing his players to appear stronger in the final match.
Yes, Dortmund's defense is extraordinary and of course this is something Ancelotti must be able to overcome and Dortmund's attack is also of course very good and dangerous. Of course, many people are favorites for Real Madrid to win, but the that we won't know who will win, so we'll see and of course time continues to pass and finally we will see the final match. which will definitely be a tense match.

[LUCKMCFLY]

yesterday's match in the European League made some bettors more careful in deciding to bet on the most comfortable option because surprises could happen.
but for me in the UCL it will be very different because the differences in the European league can be seen from the experience of the two teams, whereas here in the UCL, Real Madrid has many advantages and not only experience but also quality players.
what you say might come true if Madrid will lose the best player that Madrid has when Toni Kroos leaves, who has to choose to retire from football and this will be the last prestigious match for him which must be achieved to provide the most beautiful memories before he leaves Madrid.

honestly, as a Madrid fan, I feel very sad when I see the news that Toni Kroos has to retire too soon, leaving Madrid after a decade with Madrid who has always made a very good contribution and I am sure that even though many people are sad to see the departure of this player, Toni Kroos will prove in the last match against Dortmund that he will get the UCL title and be one of the last gifts for Madrid as a farewell sign from Toni Kroos.

I think yesterday many of us cried when we saw it was the last game at the Santiago Bernabeu, I love football and that's why maybe you feel all those things, Toni Kross left his mark, and he has so much humility that he retires for the best moment, many Madridistas feel that pain, the most important thing is that in all the social networks it is when he says goodbye to everyone and his children crying the same, it was really something very moving, I hope that this time they can win the UCL as one of the Thank us for the player's contributions, it is something that I say should happen, I think that all the players are going to leave everything on the field in the final, there is no doubt about that.

Toni Kroos bids tearful goodbye to Real Madrid after final game at Bernabeu

The legendary German midfielder will retire from professional football after Euro 2024 and has just one more club game left for Los Blancos - the Champions League final against Borussia Dortmund next week.

Source: https://www.90min.com/toni-kroos-bids-tearful-goodbye-real-madrid-final-game-bernabeu

[Mayor of ogba]

It's nothing surprising to see people are hoping Dortmund to beat Real Madrid because they're The Culers lol. Real footballers know that Real Madrid is the strongest team and Champions League is like their playground, while Dortmund is very rarely can enter to final Champions League, they're new in this league.

The European League where Atalanta pull an upset against Leverkusen because Leverkusen is new in Europa League, this is different with Real Madrid.

However, Dortmund should not be underestimated because in the final match anything is possible and every team that has managed to advance to the final is of course the best team and is ready to face this match.
Real Madrid does have a good mentality and they are also nicknamed the kings of the UCL, but I think their journey will not be easy to win their 15th UCL title.

We have seen many times in the past that underdog teams have surprised everyone by winning the Champions League.   No one can predict that Dortmund will qualify for the Champions League final this season.   Dortmund were never favorites for the Champions League. Even then, the team managed to qualify for the finals.

Real Madrid is an experienced team, and coach Ancelotti is also very experienced.   Ancelotti will certainly not underestimate the Dortmund team.   Ancelotti is well aware that Madrid have a high chance of defeat if they take Dortmund lightly.   So there is no doubt that Madrid will play to win. If Madrid can find the weaknesses in Dortmund's defense then I'd say Madrid will win this year's Champions League title as well.

Yes, no football fan would accept that Borussia Dortmund would make it to this year's UEFA Champions League finals, but they surprised everyone by setting up a final with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's coach knows that for Borussia Dortmund to make it to the finals, they can win against Real Madrid if they are not careful playing against Borussia Dortmund. I can see hungry players in Borussia Dortmund who want to make history when nobody expects them to do it, just like what Manchester United players did against Manchester City in the FA Cup finals.

[Gallar]

What is certain is that when 2 teams reach the final, they will make every effort to become winners, no one doubts the strength of Real Madrid everyone knows about it but don't forget that apart from strength a team can also win through luck. This season we saw many surprises in the final match and it is proof that every team can win in many ways, personally I do choose Real Madrid but I wouldn't bet there, I mean not for 1x2 buy yes for both teams to score.

There is no need to doubt Real Madrid's current performance, their success in becoming La Liga champions is a fairly clear benchmark that in the final match Real Madrid will definitely be much more dominant than Dortmund. But it is true, in the world of football, sometimes luck is something that is really needed. Because we can take Dortmund as a big example. I don't call Dortmund a weak team, but the steps Dortmund took to reach the final can be said to be filled with a lot of luck.

A big example was when Dortmund was able to beat PSG in the semifinals (leg 2). If we remember again, in that match Dortmund made many saves at the goal post. The reason is, in that match, Mbappe fired several shots on target at Dortmund's goal, but all his shots always hit the goal post. So if it weren't for Mbappe's kicks which always hit the goal post, I don't think Dortmund would have been able to reach the UCL final. However, it is PSG who will definitely qualify for the final.

That's why in this final match, if you look at their performance, Real Madrid is clearly superior. However, if for example in this match Real Madrid is unlucky, Ancelotti's team could suffer the same fate as PSG. But even so, I personally still hope that Real Madrid can become champions in the UCL final this time.

[barisbilgili]

Yes, no football fan would accept that Borussia Dortmund would make it to this year's UEFA Champions League finals, but they surprised everyone by setting up a final with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's coach knows that for Borussia Dortmund to make it to the finals, they can win against Real Madrid if they are not careful playing against Borussia Dortmund. I can see hungry players in Borussia Dortmund who want to make history when nobody expects them to do it, just like what Manchester United players did against Manchester City in the FA Cup finals.

The fact is that Borussia Dortmund managed to reach the final and that's how football is, there are many surprises that happen, as well as for the final match, Borussia Dortmund cannot be underestimated, especially since those who are not favorites have no burden in this match, so it is possible for Borussia Dortmund to be able to play freely. and can bring out the best performance.
If we look at the motivation to win the title, I think both teams are the same and in fact all teams dream enough to win the Champion League title.

Real Madrid is indeed superior in all aspects but I think they will not have it easy in the final, this will be a fierce match.

[Catenaccio]

Toni Kroos bids tearful goodbye to Real Madrid after final game at Bernabeu

The legendary German midfielder will retire from professional football after Euro 2024 and has just one more club game left for Los Blancos - the Champions League final against Borussia Dortmund next week.

Source: https://www.90min.com/toni-kroos-bids-tearful-goodbye-real-madrid-final-game-bernabeu

He decided to stop when he can still play well in some more seasons. This caused a lot of regret, tear in his farewell at the home stadium of Real Madrid but it is hard to assess his decision is good or bad. The best thing we can imagine from this decision is Toni will have more time for his family and children who actually need this attention on their growth in early years of their life. This is a biggest positive thing Toni can get from this decision.

The possible thing that can make him regretful later is he can play some more seasons, get more money, and even some more titles. Anyway, knowing enough is enough and Toni already won many big titles in his career, winning one or some more titles won't make him as a better player.

Time to say good bye to Toni as a player will come, soon after the Champions League final and the Euro 2024 tournament in Germany.

[Hirose UK]

Dortmund in definitely not at the same level as Real Madrid because they have many more investments so far in Real Madrid while in Dortmund they couldn't do that instead of investing in the team and buying some more exercise players to have better performance in the next games, they just try to sell the young and more expensive players to earn some more money and that's the business plan they have in Dortmund. Now I want to see if this is going to work for Dortmund against Real Madrid or not.

You are right because so far the great players that Dortmund has have been sold to elite clubs so it is possible that Dortmund and Real Madrid's current playing level is not the same because Real Madrid is more concerned with the performance and quality of their club by recruiting players who have more potential than Dortmund. selling great players just to make a lot of profit and not thinking about their performance further, but Dortmund's current achievement of being able to reach the final deserves our appreciation because they have also gone through difficult obstacles but still I differentiate the level of play between Real Madrid and Dortmund .

Dortmund's players are good but not as good as Real Madrid's, even their attack systems are different so I'm not sure Dortmund will be able to beat Real Madrid with their mediocre conditions. I'm sure Real Madrid will carry out a brutal attack when they face Dortmund. Manchester City and Bayern Munich alone can do it. were slaughtered by Real Madrid so why not Dortmund? It is clear that Real Madrid will win the Champions League title again this season and they will again collect many of these prestigious titles.

From this difference, we can also judge how Real Madrid and Dortmund will perform in the final match which will take place in few days, it is clear that Real Madrid has much more dominant advantage in winning the UCL.
Current Dortmund is very different from the Dortmund of the previous few seasons when they were still the only Bundesliga team capable of having and creating many potentially great players.
I think Dortmund success in reaching the final was due to luck, the opponents they had previously eliminated were team with unstable conditions due to the pressure of several problems they were facing.
Real Madrid performance will be much more consistent and stable, they can create opportunities in every game by optimizing their strengths on all sides, clearly this will put pressure on the Dortmund players.

Biggest thing Dortmund can do is hold the final to draw against Real Madrid if they are really lucky and can play well, but there is only small chance of this happening.
Seeing how sharp Real Madrid front line is and how strong the defense is can be reference that Real Madrid can beat Dortmund easily.

[FinePoine0]

Yes, no football fan would accept that Borussia Dortmund would make it to this year's UEFA Champions League finals, but they surprised everyone by setting up a final with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's coach knows that for Borussia Dortmund to make it to the finals, they can win against Real Madrid if they are not careful playing against Borussia Dortmund. I can see hungry players in Borussia Dortmund who want to make history when nobody expects them to do it, just like what Manchester United players did against Manchester City in the FA Cup finals.

The fact is that Borussia Dortmund managed to reach the final and that's how football is, there are many surprises that happen, as well as for the final match, Borussia Dortmund cannot be underestimated, especially since those who are not favorites have no burden in this match, so it is possible for Borussia Dortmund to be able to play freely. and can bring out the best performance.
If we look at the motivation to win the title, I think both teams are the same and in fact all teams dream enough to win the Champion League title.

Real Madrid is indeed superior in all aspects but I think they will not have it easy in the final, this will be a fierce match.

Many strong teams come in this match and perform poorly, maybe Real Madrid is a strong team, but its opposite team, Borussia Dortmund, is very strong.  Because since they have entered the final, they will surely have the chance to win this match, the Borussia Dortmund team has created many new scales in these few days to win the title. ষ Because on the day of the final they can make a surprise, and in terms of betting, both teams are almost close, although more people bet on Real Madrid team, of course long-believers Real Madrid will win. But football is a game of uncertainty, the game can turn anytime and normal teams are ready to show their best performance.

[topbitcoin]

Many strong teams come in this match and perform poorly, maybe Real Madrid is a strong team, but its opposite team, Borussia Dortmund, is very strong.  Because since they have entered the final, they will surely have the chance to win this match, the Borussia Dortmund team has created many new scales in these few days to win the title. ষ Because on the day of the final they can make a surprise, and in terms of betting, both teams are almost close, although more people bet on Real Madrid team, of course long-believers Real Madrid will win. But football is a game of uncertainty, the game can turn anytime and normal teams are ready to show their best performance.

The clubs that are in the Champions League almost all play well but from here we know that to see big competitions of course you have to choose the best and best so that's the point of the Champions League where those who play well have to lose to clubs that are better and that is a fairness in the end.

Currently the finalists remain the same where even though many people doubt Dortmund, their position is still the same where the opportunity for Dortmund is still very open in the hunt for trophies so regardless of the many statements at this time they just have to focus on doing a good final.

The final result will be the determining factor, but when you look at the conditions now, if in the end Dortmund can become champions then it is certain that a lot of praise will be given to this club and even though they lose they will not be criticized because their performance, even getting to the final, was very good.

[samuraijin]

Yes, no football fan would accept that Borussia Dortmund would make it to this year's UEFA Champions League finals, but they surprised everyone by setting up a final with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's coach knows that for Borussia Dortmund to make it to the finals, they can win against Real Madrid if they are not careful playing against Borussia Dortmund. I can see hungry players in Borussia Dortmund who want to make history when nobody expects them to do it, just like what Manchester United players did against Manchester City in the FA Cup finals.

The fact is that Borussia Dortmund managed to reach the final and that's how football is, there are many surprises that happen, as well as for the final match, Borussia Dortmund cannot be underestimated, especially since those who are not favorites have no burden in this match, so it is possible for Borussia Dortmund to be able to play freely. and can bring out the best performance.
If we look at the motivation to win the title, I think both teams are the same and in fact all teams dream enough to win the Champion League title.

Real Madrid is indeed superior in all aspects but I think they will not have it easy in the final, this will be a fierce match.

Many strong teams come in this match and perform poorly, maybe Real Madrid is a strong team, but its opposite team, Borussia Dortmund, is very strong.  Because since they have entered the final, they will surely have the chance to win this match, the Borussia Dortmund team has created many new scales in these few days to win the title. ষ Because on the day of the final they can make a surprise, and in terms of betting, both teams are almost close, although more people bet on Real Madrid team, of course long-believers Real Madrid will win. But football is a game of uncertainty, the game can turn anytime and normal teams are ready to show their best performance.

Even though Real Madrid always provides consistency in the Champions League, they are always consistent in entering the Final, even though they have never experienced defeat while playing in the Champions League Final, but this season they could experience defeat against Borussia Dortmund if we refer to yesterday's Europa match, Atalanta  against Leverkusen, of course everyone thought that Leverkusen would win the Final match, but in fact Atalanta came out as champions while Atalanta was not seeded like Borussia Dortmund is currently not seeded in the Champions League Final Match, Borussia Dortmund could have won the Final match if they could apply pressure  to Real Madrid.

[mammusu]

Yes, no football fan would accept that Borussia Dortmund would make it to this year's UEFA Champions League finals, but they surprised everyone by setting up a final with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's coach knows that for Borussia Dortmund to make it to the finals, they can win against Real Madrid if they are not careful playing against Borussia Dortmund. I can see hungry players in Borussia Dortmund who want to make history when nobody expects them to do it, just like what Manchester United players did against Manchester City in the FA Cup finals.

The fact is that Borussia Dortmund managed to reach the final and that's how football is, there are many surprises that happen, as well as for the final match, Borussia Dortmund cannot be underestimated, especially since those who are not favorites have no burden in this match, so it is possible for Borussia Dortmund to be able to play freely. and can bring out the best performance.
If we look at the motivation to win the title, I think both teams are the same and in fact all teams dream enough to win the Champion League title.

Real Madrid is indeed superior in all aspects but I think they will not have it easy in the final, this will be a fierce match.

It's true, in football anything can happen, it doesn't matter whether the team is the favorite team or not, but if they can win then we all can't do anything and can only accept the fact that they won. And I agree, with their status being no more favored than Real Madrid, their burden should be smaller, because even if they lose, everyone will consider the defeat they received as natural. So they can use this to be able to play freely in this match.

But on the contrary, if they can win, then everyone will be surprised by their victory and their job now is to try as hard as possible so that people can be surprised by their victory in the match later. They must be able to ensure that they can play well, even though in the end they will still lose, but at least I hope they can provide tough resistance to Real Madrid in this final match.

[Lidger]

Like Atalanta managed to beat Leverkusen and Man United managed to beat Man City. So there is a lot of speculation circulating that surprising results could also occur in the Champions League Final. And I might also think that this could happen. but I think the possibility is very small. 

Do you think the chance of Dortmund beating Madrid is the same as Atalanta beating Leverkusen? It would be cool if the underdog wins again, which means this year will be full of surprise winners (not talking about the league). I think it would be healthier for the overall competition if we could see other winners other than Madrid, but at the end of the day, those who score more goals will win the cup. I hope the winner plays good football instead of defending for 80 minutes and scoring one lucky goal. You can argue defending needs good strategy too, but for a competition like the Champions League, I'd love to see aggressive football instead of another "boring" one.

I also expect the same thing. Ancelotti in the quarter-finals and semi-finals actually made a strategy that made Real Madrid less aggressive in attacking. But I know Ancelotti in the final will not use the same strategy as he did in the quarter-finals and semi-finals. Because it would be more exciting if Real Madrid implemented their attacking strategy directly, which is always very aggressive and could immediately overwhelm Dortmund from the start. And Dortmund is also expected to implement the same attacking strategy. but I might now think that Dortmund will actually implement a less aggressive strategy and will only look for gaps to attack by counterattacking. Hopefully the UCL Final won't be a boring final that always lacks goals.

Real Madrid have already overcome their biggest hurdles this season in the Champions League. Two of the toughest matches of the season for Real Madrid were Manchester City and Bayern Munich. If Real Madrid's opponents in the semi-finals or quarter-finals were Dortmund instead of Manchester City or Bayern Munich, then maybe the final match would have been Real Madrid with Manchester City or Bayern Munich as opponents. 
In the four matches Real Madrid played against Bayern Munich and Manchester City, I didn't bet on any team because I was unsure because if Manchester City or Bayern Munich were strong opponents, the result could go either way. In the Champions League final between Real Madrid and Dortmund, I will definitely bet on Real Madrid and hopefully win.

[Amphenomenon]

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The fact that Dortmund made it to the final shows that they can't be ignored here, they have been going against odds to get to the final but one thing is sure Real Madrid won't be sleeping especially from the  fact that this is Toni Kroos last dance, they won't be sleeping and they are not the kind of team that slip off after winning a title, I believe that the defeat  of Bayern Leverkusen will even make Ancelotti and his squad to be cautious of Dortmund.

I still feel Real Madrid will be victorious

[armanda90]

Real Madrid have already overcome their biggest hurdles this season in the Champions League. Two of the toughest matches of the season for Real Madrid were Manchester City and Bayern Munich. If Real Madrid's opponents in the semi-finals or quarter-finals were Dortmund instead of Manchester City or Bayern Munich, then maybe the final match would have been Real Madrid with Manchester City or Bayern Munich as opponents. 
In the four matches Real Madrid played against Bayern Munich and Manchester City, I didn't bet on any team because I was unsure because if Manchester City or Bayern Munich were strong opponents, the result could go either way. In the Champions League final between Real Madrid and Dortmund, I will definitely bet on Real Madrid and hopefully win.

Comparison the opponent team eliminated since knock out round, Real Madrid had most difficult opponent team than Dortmund after success eliminating Manchester City as the last season winner and Bayern Munich who the top Bundesliga team. Difference with Dortmund most of their opponent eliminated team not too strong from PSV and Atletico Madrid except with PSG. Usually, the Champions League winner is the team that successfully beats the defending champion and this season Real Madrid succeeded in eliminating Manchester City in the quarter final round.

No doubt with Real Madrid never loss when success qualifying to Champion League final become favorite team for winning the UCL trophy in this season by beating Dortmund. Left three days later for the final match begin and both teams between Real Madrid or Dortmund already for their last match in this season before break out two months later for season 2024/25. Its special match for Real Madrid want to give last Champion League trophy for his player Toni Kroos who will retire from football after Euro 2024.