UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[bitLeap]

Only two days left. Real Madrid vs Dortmund.  Right now even though I do not have much expectation From Dortmund, I just hope that the match is going to be competitive. Most of the people are expecting that this match is going to be one sided. I understand why that is the case. Real Madrid is definitely supposed to win this match very easily. But I personally have some hope. Because nobody actually had given Dortmund any chance they have still been able to get to the final of the Champions League. So maybe, just maybe there is some surprises waiting to happen for us in the Champions League final. Yes on paper Real Madrid is very scary and is definitely going to win, but on paper, Dortmund was also not supposed to be the finalist in the Champions League.

Once the whistle sounds everything will be answered and you can clearly see the difference in power between the two. However for now I am also a bit holding back whether Madrid can win easily or Dortmund can actually present lots of surprises. Both the quality and quantity in Madrid final are hard to beat, Madrid always manages to find a way to turn things around. Dortmund without our knowledge, is preparing as best as possible and ensuring that each line of defense is not caught off guard. Turning off Vinicius and Rodrygo was the key to stemming Real Madrid's aggressive attacks. So as long as Dortmund can guard these 2 players, their chances increase but this must be balanced with the effectiveness of their attacks.

[masulum]

regardless of the fact that playing defensively is boring and we pay for tickets or pay TV to watch beautiful games full of goals, but if you play defensively sooner or later you make a mistake and they score a goal
I don`t consider it a healthy strategy
however, playing too offensively exposes you to counter attacks and counter-foots, so in my opinion we need balance and if we want Real Madrid is more balanced as a team

Bus parking strategy, it's boring for those watching. But can we prevent coaches who try to implement this strategy even though we have paid for a subscription service to watch the match? Coaches apply this boring strategy to win or secure their chance to going to the next round. Of course I feel the same, defensive strategy is boring. Usually, if the coach implementing this defensive strategy, but they are concedes a goal, the rhythm will start to change, and we will see a more interesting match. But, if someone applies a defensive, but they are able to scoring goal, the match will be more boring.

[Falconer]

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If you believe in Dortmund, double chance bet "Dortmund or draw" is worthy to risk. Another choice is to bet both teams will not score, I see Real Madrid have a good defense and Dortmund don't have a good attacking line.

I personally prefer to bet both teams will not score considering the chance Dortmund will pull an upset is really low.

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Pay attention to the odds, are they worth the risk you are going to take?
It might be fine if you're just having fun betting $1 to $5 on your picks, but for me it's just a waste of time if you really want real fun.

Odds of 1.66 for Real Madrid to win in 90 minutes are very good in my opinion. Real Madrid is superior in many aspects including squad depth and experience in the final. Real Madrid will not make a big mistake that will ruin its reputation against Dortmund, but whatever it is you should still bet an amount you can afford to lose.

If it were me, then I would choose odds of 1.66 for Real Madrid to win. The risk of defeat seems low to consider considering many best things about Real Madrid. But for some people, betting on both teams not scoring for 90 minutes is a fun thing to try.

[tbct_mt2]

Bus parking strategy, it's boring for those watching. But can we prevent coaches who try to implement this strategy even though we have paid for a subscription service to watch the match? Coaches apply this boring strategy to win or secure their chance to going to the next round. Of course I feel the same, defensive strategy is boring. Usually, if the coach implementing this defensive strategy, but they are concedes a goal, the rhythm will start to change, and we will see a more interesting match. But, if someone applies a defensive, but they are able to scoring goal, the match will be more boring.

Dortmund are weaker and they know about danger from Real Madrid attacking players so they will choose to play defensive, not attacking. Before the match starts and happens several minutes, we can not know how serious defensive Dortmund will play in the final. They are familiar with pressure from attacks of stronger opponents like Atletico Madrid and PSG, and this will help them in the final.

I believe Dortmund will not only pay attention on defense but will try to wait and find opportunities from counter attacks. They know that if they can defend well and take advantage of counter attacks to exploit Real Madrid's defense system, they can win the final without penalty shoot outs. Winning in 90 minutes is better than playing 30 extra minutes and wait for luckiness from penalty shoot outs.

[Altryist]

Bus parking strategy, it's boring for those watching. But can we prevent coaches who try to implement this strategy even though we have paid for a subscription service to watch the match? Coaches apply this boring strategy to win or secure their chance to going to the next round. Of course I feel the same, defensive strategy is boring. Usually, if the coach implementing this defensive strategy, but they are concedes a goal, the rhythm will start to change, and we will see a more interesting match. But, if someone applies a defensive, but they are able to scoring goal, the match will be more boring.

Or those who are defending score a goal on a counterattack and then we watch how they defend until the end of the match. But I doubt that Terzic will want to play like that in the final, I understand that any methods are suitable for achieving victory, and in the end only victory matters, but the final is a special match and teams get there for a reason, this is a match that millions will watch, and spending most of the match on the defensive is not the best strategy, as the team will definitely be considered weaker.

[Palakka]

It's just a prediction and whatever the result can happen, you yourself predict that Dortmund will win but in reality, there is no complete guarantee that Dortmund will win either. So yes, they are just making predictions and there is nothing wrong about their predictions, but they are exaggerating when they and perhaps you too become fanatical exaggerations to say your chosen team will win. After all, basically Real Madrid is of course still the best team, so it is not surprising and not strange if Real Madrid is the team that is highly projected to win in the Champions League final match. For me, this is not strange at all, because basically Real Madrid clearly has a lot of experience in the Champions League so that Real Madrid has the status of the team that has won the most Champions League trophies.

Everyone of course has their own predictions and expectations in the final, when you say there is no guarantee Dortmund can win in the match of course this also applies to Madrid even though they are a strong and consistent team this season, Madrid is of course a strong favorite to win the final but we also cannot underestimate Dortmund who are a surprise team in the final later,  I personally assess if indeed the favorite team also has no guarantee to win in football and of course we can see a lot of history so far the favorite team had to suffer a painful defeat from the mediocrity team so far.

Apart from Madrid which is the favorite team but still they still have weaknesses that maybe Dortmund will be able to take advantage of later, in football of course there is no team that cannot be beaten and of course we can see how Madrid this season can be beaten by Atletico Madrid in the league and also the Copa del Rey, then how can we say if Dortmund will not be able to beat them later in the final?

[topbitcoin]

I would like to wait for the match kick off, after 15 or 30 minutes, you will have better odds to bet if you are favorite in Real Madrid.

I see Dortmund will not collapse or get a conceded goal too early in the final and by this, odds on Real Madrid for you to bet will possibly become better. You will have less risk than if you choose Real Madrid and bet before the final match kicks off.

I believe Real Madrid will be a champion but for betting, you need to wait for better odds because this match will be tight and winner will be decided by only one goal difference.

That can be an option but I think it will only reduce the odds especially when the game has started then indirectly we can see different movements of the odds which is certainly a little disadvantageous I think.
If the choice is already made in favor of one of the clubs I think it's a good idea to bet in the pre-match conditions and I would personally do that because although I realize it's not easy, I'm still pretty confident Madrid can win this one.

Waiting until midway through the first half or even in the second half would only reduce the betting probability. However, this is also up to each person's preference as this is also considered one of the strategies to feel comfortable in betting so this is not a problem but in this match I will do it before the pre-match because I feel quite optimistic about Madrid.

[Pandorak]

Real Madrid is perfectly prepared for final match against dortmund soon, it surprises me there are many people who favored dortmund to win the game without even trying to remember the track record of real madrid. Ancellotti will preserve any measures made by Dortmund in order to prevent Dortmund from winning the UCL championship this season and he will provide the right strategy in order to prevent dortmund to win the game. I'm hopeful that Real Madrid can once again smash Dortmund in the final and this is gonna be a very bad time for dortmund to lose against real madrid. Sometimes, your luck can help you make it to the final of Europe's most tough football championship like UCL. Madrid is an extremely strong club at this time with so many great talents. Ancellotti is also a brilliant coach who may devise a very excellent method to destroy Dortmund's strategy in the upcoming game.

I have a feeling Madrid will go much better than previously in order to add its UCL trophy to be 15. Dortmund has consistently played passively since the group stage and im sure ancellotti aware of this. It dominated the encounter when Dortmund faced the weakest club.
Dortmund has lost two games this season. It demonstrates that Dortmund still has a weakness when compared to Real Madrid.

Madrid still has a good potential of scoring many goals shortly.

Based on data from the last 5 matches between each team, Real Madrid and Dortmund, Dortmund only conceded a few goals, while Real Madrid conceded a lot of goals, even though in the end they were able to win every match. We can conclude that the strength of Dortmund's defense cannot be underestimated, of course this will make it difficult for El-Real to penetrate it. So I think the upcoming match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund will be a very competitive and tense final match.

[Spaceman1000$]

I've already made a bet with my friend who supports Real Madrid hehe

But now I'm not sure which bet to place now
Real's win is only 1.67 odds, I don't know if it's worth the risk of it being a final and the game going to extra time again
Betting on Borussia seems like a good risk and return with 5.20 odds

I'm trying to find a good bet here but every time I think of an outcome I can imagine something totally different happening
Last year's final was easier to predict than this one 

If you believe in Dortmund, double chance bet "Dortmund or draw" is worthy to risk. Another choice is to bet both teams will not score, I see Real Madrid have a good defense and Dortmund don't have a good attacking line.

I personally prefer to bet both teams will not score considering the chance Dortmund will pull an upset is really low.

I won't go for double chance, the odds are not high. 90 minutes Draw or straight winning is where the money is. For Both teams one will definitely score, if Real Madrid score first, it will make the Dortmund side to come out and force the attack. Madrid is attacking minded, while Dortmund are defensive minded, so any case goals must come out. I can Boldly go for a straight win for Real Madrid, because that is the angle i see more goals coming out from tomorrow night.

If Both teams don't score just as you've said, then the game will fall back to the playing pattern of Dortmund, as they can miraculously get an opportunity to score especially towards the Twilight of the 90 minutes.

[Lida93]

as we know, all matches that are a final are always a separate match and therefore it is almost always impossible to predict the outcome also considering the value of the teams (I don't think there is a huge difference) for the bookmakers it seems so but I don't think it's appropriate to go too far, I believe that Borussia can reserve some great surprises for us and I sincerely hope so and sincerely if they win there will be 6 German teams in Europe if I'm not mistaken..

I might prefer to think that there is a difference in strength between Dortmund and Real Madrid. But considering that Dortmund were also able to reach the final because of their strength which cannot be underestimated, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started to think that the strength of the two was almost comparable. Although I'm sure many people don't agree with that. Because the majority of football fans will definitely favor Real Madrid. But despite all that, it is still difficult to predict the results. Because the favorite team is not always the winner and vice versa, not all teams that are considered weak will lose.

Yes, I agree with you that there are different strengths between Borussia Dortmund players and Real Madrid players which some people have experienced such strength from Real Madrid in the la Liga league competition with a highest points while some have experienced some strength from Borussia Dortmund in the UEFA champions league competition that made them to qualified for final game.

I know it will be difficult for Real Madrid fans to accept that Borussia Dortmund players have more strength than Real Madrid in this season, which they will use this final game to know that Borussia Dortmund players have more strength than Real Madrid by lifting the UEFA champions league trophy.

It will be difficult for Real Madrid to have that luck they had last season to lift the trophy in this season, because Borussia Dortmund players will not allow them to drive to such direction to win the trophy.

I fancy the Dortmund team very much this season with how they have been quite strong to survive right from the group stage that they were in the group death to this point of finals. Am sure not a lot of people predicted them to play in the finals unlike Real Madrid that had the favourite aura with them right from the beginning of the season.

Looking at all the great teams Dortmund had to conquer through teams such as Milan, Atletico Madrid, and especially PSG, I think they deserve all the respect they're getting in prospect to them winning Real Madrid on Saturday. Dortmund has the agility to go physical with Real Madrid in this game.

However, it's important that we don't forget in a hurry that this Real Madrid team is also one with one of the best  strong defense in this competition as well as with good attackers and with a coach full of a winning mentality tactics. They are currently the best team in Spain (currently crowned Laliga champions), if not the world. Nevertheless, I wish to keep my mind open on this game as I don't want to be too quick to pick a side yet till the first 45 minutes of the game is dusted.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Bus parking strategy, it's boring for those watching. But can we prevent coaches who try to implement this strategy even though we have paid for a subscription service to watch the match? Coaches apply this boring strategy to win or secure their chance to going to the next round. Of course I feel the same, defensive strategy is boring. Usually, if the coach implementing this defensive strategy, but they are concedes a goal, the rhythm will start to change, and we will see a more interesting match. But, if someone applies a defensive, but they are able to scoring goal, the match will be more boring.

Or those who are defending score a goal on a counterattack and then we watch how they defend until the end of the match. But I doubt that Terzic will want to play like that in the final, I understand that any methods are suitable for achieving victory, and in the end only victory matters, but the final is a special match and teams get there for a reason, this is a match that millions will watch, and spending most of the match on the defensive is not the best strategy, as the team will definitely be considered weaker.

I think Dortmund's match strategy will be the same in the final. Edin Terzić will not change his old defensive tactics. But maybe you can adopt a new strategy to break the defense of Real Madrid. However, Dortmund's overall gameplay will be defensive.

I think this is because Dortmund's attack is not strong enough. And if Dortmund plays attacking strategy, it will be more difficult for Dortmund's players to resist Madrid's counter attacks. Moreover, Dortmund coach Edin Terzić is well aware of the weakness of Dortmund's attack. And this is why Dortmund will keep their defense tight. They will not attempt too many attacks. And Edin Terzić's main target will be to stop Madrid's players.

[Volgastallion]

Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.

[Lidger]

Possible everything can happen but not mean that Dortmund can find coming final against real Madrid easily to win it will be very difficult for them to overcome real Madrid. Because they cannot compare performance of real to Dortmund, everyone knows how their so good and very strong this season so predict that Dortmund can surprise people's by defeated real Madrid I think is very early to predict that, But shall let wait and see what can actually happen on Saturday between the real Madrid and Dortmund.

Dortmund can beat Real Madrid but they must have a very wise and proper approach in tactics for the final since its beginning. Real Madrid with their experience and quality, can score goals any time and if Dortmund show their defensive weakness, make mistakes too early, they will have to pay very high cost.

If Dortmund start the match defensively, defend well, they will have bigger chance with time when Real Madrid players will feel like no dangerous counter attacks from Dortmund, lose their patience and try to lift their squad higher and higher to find a goal. It will be time for Dortmund to use counter attacks to invade Real Madrid midfield and defensive areas, and get a winning goal.

I consider Real Madrid will be the champion, not Dortmund but as analyzed, I see chance for Dortmund.

Even though Real Madrid will still be guaranteed to get the trophy, but in the final of the Europa League and Conference League at least the favorite team is lose. With that result, it at least makes me a little hesitant to bet on Real Madrid, because I already lost in bets for the previous two final matches regarding Bayer Leverkusen and Fiorentina. Although indeed, I also realize that it will be difficult for Dortmund to cause a surprise but still, because in football any result can still happen. So yes, I think maybe this season will be a moment for non-seeded teams to succeed in making a surprise, even though it seems unlikely that Real Madrid to lose, but at least Dortmund still has a chance to win. Who knows!

The Champions League final may not have the same unexpected results as the finals of other league tournaments because the Champions League finalists are Real Madrid and Real Madrid's opponents are Dortmund. Right now there is no injury problem in Real Madrid and Real Madrid will field their best XI in the final match so there is no chance of all the players of this reliable XI performing poorly together so we unofficially expect that Real Madrid is the champion in this Champions League tournament so far.

[3meek]

I would like to wait for the match kick off, after 15 or 30 minutes, you will have better odds to bet if you are favorite in Real Madrid.

I see Dortmund will not collapse or get a conceded goal too early in the final and by this, odds on Real Madrid for you to bet will possibly become better. You will have less risk than if you choose Real Madrid and bet before the final match kicks off.

I believe Real Madrid will be a champion but for betting, you need to wait for better odds because this match will be tight and winner will be decided by only one goal difference.

Betting after the match starts seems to be the right choice to see what the performance patterns of the two clubs are and it will definitely be easier for us to decide to bet on the right choice with higher odds.
Gamblers usually use this method, but I prefer to place a bet before the match starts to get a bigger chance of winning because I have a long time to analyze the development of Real Madrid and Dortmund.
I will take a gamble by betting on 1x2 to get odds that are not too big and for me this will be my best choice.

Dortmund cannot overcome Real Madrid's strength easily, even though they beat PSG, which has star players, but Real Madrid has more experienced players and already knows what to do to beat Dortmund.

I'm not sure betting after the start of the game would be the right choice... There is always a risk that a quick goal could happen... It is better to make several bets, before the game and after the start, when it will be clear how the teams are playing...

So we have to wait till the end of the game which team can win and secure the title.

Hi, I'm from the future, Real Madrid become the champion.

I hope not, if it's true then the match will definitely have been decided by the football mafia mafia because it's very strange with Real Madrid's scores in several important matches, in fact I hope that Dortmund will come out as champions whatever the results, we'll see, even if you Even coming from the future or from a planet could be wrong.

It's just a prediction and whatever the result can happen, you yourself predict that Dortmund will win but in reality, there is no complete guarantee that Dortmund will win either. So yes, they are just making predictions and there is nothing wrong about their predictions, but they are exaggerating when they and perhaps you too become fanatical exaggerations to say your chosen team will win. After all, basically Real Madrid is of course still the best team, so it is not surprising and not strange if Real Madrid is the team that is highly projected to win in the Champions League final match. For me, this is not strange at all, because basically Real Madrid clearly has a lot of experience in the Champions League so that Real Madrid has the status of the team that has won the most Champions League trophies.

I don't think there will be a surprise in this final... First Atalanta beat Leverkusen, then Olympiacos won the Euro trophy for the first time... Madrid will make no mistakes in this final... Although it will be funny if all three finals are won by non-favorites...

[imamusma]

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Based on data from the last 5 matches between each team, Real Madrid and Dortmund, Dortmund only conceded a few goals, while Real Madrid conceded a lot of goals, even though in the end they were able to win every match. We can conclude that the strength of Dortmund's defense cannot be underestimated, of course this will make it difficult for El-Real to penetrate it. So I think the upcoming match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund will be a very competitive and tense final match.

I think this can be understood, because in the last few matches Ancelotti has rotated more players with the second tier squad, considering that Real Madrid has succeeded in winning the La Liga trophy. It could be said that Real Madrid is no longer forcing match results, and is more focused on facing the Champions League final. Meanwhile, Dortmund must try their best in the Bundesliga, because they aim to finish in the Champions League zone. Apart from that, I don't think the number of goals conceded can be used as a complete benchmark, but I agree that the match Real Madrid versus Dortmund will be fierce.

From the many predictions that we have seen, Real Madrid is the favorite team to win, so that Ancelotti squad has the potential to win the 15th Champions League trophy. However, all of these predictions could be wrong and be broken if Dortmund manages to create a surprise, as is the case occurred in the previous Europa League final. We believe that when Real Madrid makes it to the final, they will be very difficult to beat, but in football there are always surprises. As for the course of the match, it is very likely that it will be tougher in the second half, especially if Real Madrid falls behind first.

[KTChampions]

I think for one mistake to change the entire game it would have to be something like a red card early in the game. I, of course, mean a game where there is a clear favorite and a clear outsider. All mistakes that are “less” do not have much meaning because if the favorite missed a goal (by accident) but could not come back, then for me this means that it simply was not stronger in this particular game.
I think that in the final Real will not take risks by holding the score 1-0, for example, I expect a lot of goals and a confident victory. The examples of the Conference League and Europa League should be a good lesson for all the favorites.

There is only one way for Dortmund to win the game in my opinion and that is to score at least 2 goals wit the few chances they probably have. Maybe you recall the header of Füllkrug against Atletico Madrid. That goal was insane and he scores that one like 10% of the time. The goal against PSG where he controlled the ball with one touch and then scored immediately is another world class goal that Füllkrug is not really known for. But it is these overperformance that gave Dortmund the advantage against Atletico and PSG. If they miss any of their big chances (if they have any), I doubt they can beat Real Madrid.

But I am not the kind of guy who looks at odds here and says "game over" because the odds were against Dortmund from day 1 in this Champions League season. To not concede a goal in 190 minutes against PSG is a pretty big deal and that is what Dortmund needs: the best defensive performance of the season, even better than against PSG.

Scoring two goals against Atlético is not nearly as difficult as it was 3-4 years ago. By comparison, Atlético have conceded 43 goals in 38 games in La Liga this season, while Real have conceded just 26. And here we must remember that, relative to half of the La Liga teams, Atlético is head and shoulders above, and Real received most of the goals they conceded when they had already officially become champions and were playing with the second team.
We’ll see how it turns out in a little more than a day, personally, I’ll take a risk and since I have some free money, I’ll bet on Real winning in regular time with a handicap (-1 and -2).

[Zigabel]

So we have to wait till the end of the game which team can win and secure the title.

Hi, I'm from the future, Real Madrid become the champion.

I hope not, if it's true then the match will definitely have been decided by the football mafia mafia because it's very strange with Real Madrid's scores in several important matches, in fact I hope that Dortmund will come out as champions whatever the results, we'll see, even if you Even coming from the future or from a planet could be wrong.

Hoping that Dortmund comes out the winners is on a very slim chance and i don't really see that happening because Madrid isn't going to allow that happen because they are too experienced enough to just letting Dortmund get a victory like that and if it eventually happens, they are making sure its not going to be an easy game for them to just get an easy win but then i know that Madrid is going to make sure they are able to get this trophy by almost every means possible as they are more experienced and are like the top team between them and their contender.

by almost all taught been shared about this game, Madrid still keeps appearing as the favorite and has a better chance of which I'm rooting for them as well

[mv1986]

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Scoring two goals against Atlético is not nearly as difficult as it was 3-4 years ago. By comparison, Atlético have conceded 43 goals in 38 games in La Liga this season, while Real have conceded just 26. And here we must remember that, relative to half of the La Liga teams, Atlético is head and shoulders above, and Real received most of the goals they conceded when they had already officially become champions and were playing with the second team.
We’ll see how it turns out in a little more than a day, personally, I’ll take a risk and since I have some free money, I’ll bet on Real winning in regular time with a handicap (-1 and -2).

No worries, I am very well aware of what I am talking about and scoring goals against Atletico in a Champions League quarterfinal when they took the lead in aggregate is a 100 times harder than it is in La Liga. That's why I am not a friend of drawing on La Liga statistics. It doesn't make sense to draw on league statistics as you can clearly see this season alone. Dortmund finished 5th in the Bundesliga. And what?

I guess nobody forgot who got eliminated by Atletico Madrid: it was the super strong finalist from last season and the overwhelming Serie A champion Inter Milan. If it were to work the way you now presented, then something must be wrong

But don't get me wrong, I know that this Atletico is not the Atletico from a few years ago. Still I think they can switch into a different mode in the Champions League and I find that quite normal.

[SUPERSAIAN]

There were big surprises in the European cups this year. First Atalanta and then Olympic. Real Madrid is the absolute favorite in the UEFA Champions League and almost no one is determined that Real Madrid will not make a mistake. This game is never predictable in football.

Real Madrid is a club that can move easily around here, but they will also need luck. In fact, I think it will be a good final for both teams. I think Real Madrid will not surprise us and will get a comfortable victory.

[Marvelockg]

There were big surprises in the European cups this year. First Atalanta and then Olympic. Real Madrid is the absolute favorite in the UEFA Champions League and almost no one is determined that Real Madrid will not make a mistake. This game is never predictable in football.

Real Madrid is a club that can move easily around here, but they will also need luck. In fact, I think it will be a good final for both teams. I think Real Madrid will not surprise us and will get a comfortable victory.

comfortable victory you say? Nah!
Except you've not watch the kind of fight Dortmund put forward against PSG and ended up kicking them from entering into the finals of the champions league. At this stage, we have to take away our emotions and face the reality that it's going to be a tough match for real Madrid.

Dortmund already know that Madrid fihhts to the end in All matches and so they will be pressured to score more goals to get ahead of real Madrid early in the game and with the intensity of there play, it's certain that we might see Dortmund pushing real Madrid to a tight corner and frustrate all there efforts.