UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[KTChampions]

Scoring two goals against Atlético is not nearly as difficult as it was 3-4 years ago. By comparison, Atlético have conceded 43 goals in 38 games in La Liga this season, while Real have conceded just 26. And here we must remember that, relative to half of the La Liga teams, Atlético is head and shoulders above, and Real received most of the goals they conceded when they had already officially become champions and were playing with the second team.
We’ll see how it turns out in a little more than a day, personally, I’ll take a risk and since I have some free money, I’ll bet on Real winning in regular time with a handicap (-1 and -2).

No worries, I am very well aware of what I am talking about and scoring goals against Atletico in a Champions League quarterfinal when they took the lead in aggregate is a 100 times harder than it is in La Liga. That's why I am not a friend of drawing on La Liga statistics. It doesn't make sense to draw on league statistics as you can clearly see this season alone. Dortmund finished 5th in the Bundesliga. And what?

I guess nobody forgot who got eliminated by Atletico Madrid: it was the super strong finalist from last season and the overwhelming Serie A champion Inter Milan. If it were to work the way you now presented, then something must be wrong

But don't get me wrong, I know that this Atletico is not the Atletico from a few years ago. Still I think they can switch into a different mode in the Champions League and I find that quite normal.

Ok, look at Atlético's other games in the Champions League - in almost every one they conceded a goal, if you take out the games with Dortmund (where they conceded 5 goals while scoring only 4), then their statistics are as follows: 8 games, 8 conceded goals. This is a repetition of La Liga statistics.
Now look at Dortmund: they won the group against PSG, and against dead Milan and Newcastle, then they beat PSV, then Atlético Madrid, then PSG again. Nothing phenomenal (except for the number of hits on the post in the games with PSG), the usual fluctuation of the result.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Yes, you are very correct because the oddsmaker feel that a lot of people is going to place there bet on Borussia Dortmund to win Real Madrid that is why their odd is going down instead of going up, although they feel that is going be like Man City against Manchester united in the FA cup final because they gave Man City small odd because they were thinking that Man City won Manchester united has down, but at last it was really unbelievable to them.

Just few weeks ago, the favorites were real Madrid against Dortmund, but with the developments from Europa league and FA cup finals, people are now very unsure of their favorite and more people now rooting for Dortmund to win to conclude the on going trend of supposed weaker teams claiming trophies with  reckless abandon, humiliating stronger teams in the process.

I suppose pressure is really building up in the Madrid camp as well as the  opposing team against tomorrow. I believe they would give us a resounding performance tomorrow. Myself don't care much about who wins the title, I just want to enjoy the match, of course my stakes are with Dortmund. If not for anything. Let them taste champions league title again after 27 years.

[Leviathan.007]

Bus parking strategy, it's boring for those watching. But can we prevent coaches who try to implement this strategy even though we have paid for a subscription service to watch the match? Coaches apply this boring strategy to win or secure their chance to going to the next round. Of course I feel the same, defensive strategy is boring. Usually, if the coach implementing this defensive strategy, but they are concedes a goal, the rhythm will start to change, and we will see a more interesting match. But, if someone applies a defensive, but they are able to scoring goal, the match will be more boring.

Or those who are defending score a goal on a counterattack and then we watch how they defend until the end of the match. But I doubt that Terzic will want to play like that in the final, I understand that any methods are suitable for achieving victory, and in the end only victory matters, but the final is a special match and teams get there for a reason, this is a match that millions will watch, and spending most of the match on the defensive is not the best strategy, as the team will definitely be considered weaker.

I think Dortmund's match strategy will be the same in the final. Edin Terzić will not change his old defensive tactics. But maybe you can adopt a new strategy to break the defense of Real Madrid. However, Dortmund's overall gameplay will be defensive.

I think this is because Dortmund's attack is not strong enough. And if Dortmund plays attacking strategy, it will be more difficult for Dortmund's players to resist Madrid's counter attacks. Moreover, Dortmund coach Edin Terzić is well aware of the weakness of Dortmund's attack. And this is why Dortmund will keep their defense tight. They will not attempt too many attacks. And Edin Terzić's main target will be to stop Madrid's players.

While we are getting closer to the game between Dortmund and Real Madrid there are more rumors about this game.
I'm sure Dortmund is not a team to start attacking in the beginning and they prefer to start the game defensively and try their luck on the counter-attacks but if they just start playing defensively during whole this game, they won't get anything against a team like Real Madrid because in Real Madrid they have many superstar players in forwards and this can make it easier for Real Madrid to score a goal in this match.
Maybe it's the time for Dortmund to change its strategy for this match.
 

[ginsan]

Hoping that Dortmund comes out the winners is on a very slim chance and i don't really see that happening because Madrid isn't going to allow that happen because they are too experienced enough to just letting Dortmund get a victory like that and if it eventually happens, they are making sure its not going to be an easy game for them to just get an easy win but then i know that Madrid is going to make sure they are able to get this trophy by almost every means possible as they are more experienced and are like the top team between them and their contender.

by almost all taught been shared about this game, Madrid still keeps appearing as the favorite and has a better chance of which I'm rooting for them as well

Of course, this is a fairly slim hope because we see that the opponents facing Dortmund are the strongest team and have a big enough mentality to become champions. However, there is a chance for Dortmund to beat Real Madrid if they play well enough and can score an early goal which could change the tempo of the game. Of course betting on Dortmund has a small chance but this is not a problem because the expected odds are bigger and it could be that it will bring luck if Dortmund can play more impressively.

From their record in the domestic league of course Dortmund did not close the season in the best position but that is not a record that should be taken more seriously. Because in the Champions League Dortmund managed to show their consistency so that will be a benchmark before placing a bet. I'm more inclined to choose Real Madrid as champions because I don't doubt their strength this season, moreover they have quite stable perfection in their team so I'm sure they will be able to score goals early and win their 15th trophy.

[len01]

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance. I understand that anything is possible in football and they have a chance as much as anyone else, but I feel like it is not going to be that easy to make it work, I feel like we are going to see it change a bit.

The final match is still yet to be played and I see a lot of hope in Dortmund just like I can see in Real Madrid also. To have come this far, they should be respected and not underrated by any team. The oddsmaker can give whatever they like in this match, but it’s not that both teams can’t do their thing to make themself win. It will be an even match and the best team will be the one to prevail in this match. Dortmund is the less team in this case but that does not stop them from trying to be champions in this season’s champions league. They can try their best and if their best is good enough, they can become winners tomorrow.

I admit that in this final round both teams must be highly respected and not underestimate each other because the final result in the UCL is always unknown which could end in a surprise but for me the surprise will not be that Madrid will lose but will only end in a draw and continue the match goes to the penalty round.
no one underestimates these two teams and in fact I will not underestimate Dortmund even as a Madrid fan but I admit that Dortmund and Madrid both have advantages as has often been said by many people here if Madrid has a strong attack line and a good defense strong while Dortmund has a strong defense line but a not so strong attack line.

I'm just predicting for now that it's very likely that Madrid will concede early because I'm sure Ancelotti would prefer to see opportunities that can be used to provide strategy to Madrid players and will respond with a bigger score in the second half.
BTTS is really the best choice in this match and can't wait to watch this match because most people will bet big in this final round.

[Stable090]

Hoping that Dortmund comes out the winners is on a very slim chance and i don't really see that happening because Madrid isn't going to allow that happen because they are too experienced enough to just letting Dortmund get a victory like that and if it eventually happens

That’s just what everyone is saying. Lots of people are just confident that Real Madrid will win the trophy this season. Dortmund's performances have been good, and their defense is very strong, which I know will be kind of difficult for Real Madrid to break, but I just have the feeling that Real Madrid will win the match even if we won’t be seeing many goals in the match. Real Madrid won’t just want to lose the match after they have gotten to the final, Ancelotti will do everything possible to lift the cup. But we all know that football is just full of surprises, so let’s see if Dortmund will be able to surprise us in the final.

[Stepstowealth]

Don't be so sure about Real Madrid lifting the Champions League trophy. It is good for Real Madrid to have confidence. But they should definitely not be overconfident. That’s how big teams lose against weaker opponents.

The Real Madrid coach the legendary Carlo Ancelotti will need to caution his players to watch their emotions in the game because they are obviously the better side to win, but can become the enemy of themselves if they allow emotions to take hold of them. Dortmund have been stronger this season in the champions league than in the bundesliga where they struggled. They will try to beat Thibaut Courtois who will be the goalkeeper for Real Madrid tomorrow and has a champions league final experience with Real Madrid against Liverpool two years ago, and he was the best player in the game winning the man of the match award. Dortmund have the players who can do this problem to Real Madrid, and they will have their chances.

[baeva]

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance. I understand that anything is possible in football and they have a chance as much as anyone else, but I feel like it is not going to be that easy to make it work, I feel like we are going to see it change a bit.

The best thing to do at this case would be just letting them be whatever they want to be, and they should not be worried about it. I think it is going to be fine, and with that I believe that if we are going to end up with a result that is a little sensitive. So, we should consider how to move forward with this situation. That would be lovely, and I think it is going to be something that will benefit Real Madrid, who will win this one for sure.

It's kind of obvious. They have a lot more experience, they have a lot better form and they're really certain to win this final. But there is still a hope alive in football fans for this intrigue, that maybe this time the match will be so interesting that Dortmund won't give up. It would be nice to see some intrigue in this match indeed. I'll be happy if Borussia score at least one goal, shows it's possible

[snipie]

It's kind of obvious. They have a lot more experience, they have a lot better form and they're really certain to win this final. But there is still a hope alive in football fans for this intrigue, that maybe this time the match will be so interesting that Dortmund won't give up. It would be nice to see some intrigue in this match indeed. I'll be happy if Borussia score at least one goal, shows it's possible

Borussia Dortmund @5 vs Real Madrid @1.6
Odds are talking about themselves and Real Madrid are the favourite team to win UEFA Champions League title according to bookies.
I suppose there will be two goals in the two halves, injury time included since we are talking about Real Madrid
Both teams to score? Well I think Borussia Dortmund might get a chance to score especially if the number of goals exceeds three.

[Weawant]

Yes, you are very correct because the oddsmaker feel that a lot of people is going to place there bet on Borussia Dortmund to win Real Madrid that is why their odd is going down instead of going up, although they feel that is going be like Man City against Manchester united in the FA cup final because they gave Man City small odd because they were thinking that Man City won Manchester united has down, but at last it was really unbelievable to them.

The odds makers know too well how much Dortmund will really want to win the champions league and how others may want to risk it aswell because they will all think that it's possible to get to win by chance or luck so they will feel it wouldn't really be a bad idea to trying them out and so they are going to  try to predict that Dortmund win even if they know they are just risking it with the hops of getting Lucky.

Madrid is going to make sure they are going to win this so as to get that record that no team have gotten in the champions league history, if they win this, it will be over ten of the trophies they have win and they are the only team to have done three in a row without any other team interrupting a d they look like they would want to repeat it but if they are able to do it this season and then next season, then it will be a matter of gradually getting the champions league to becoming boring because people are going to loose intrest in the fact that a particular team keeps winning the league title often.

Another team should strive to win it by next season as the fun in the game is mostly in the ability of other teams winning as much as top teams are winning aswell, making a single team enjoying the monopoly of winning the trophy almost every season makes room for reasons to raise eyebrows about the chances that the league is coordinated purely on a very clear judgment and not having any fishy intents around.

[Docnaster]

Hoping that Dortmund comes out the winners is on a very slim chance and i don't really see that happening because Madrid isn't going to allow that happen because they are too experienced enough to just letting Dortmund get a victory like that and if it eventually happens, they are making sure its not going to be an easy game for them to just get an easy win but then i know that Madrid is going to make sure they are able to get this trophy by almost every means possible as they are more experienced and are like the top team between them and their contender.

by almost all taught been shared about this game, Madrid still keeps appearing as the favorite and has a better chance of which I'm rooting for them as well

Of course, this is a fairly slim hope because we see that the opponents facing Dortmund are the strongest team and have a big enough mentality to become champions. However, there is a chance for Dortmund to beat Real Madrid if they play well enough and can score an early goal which could change the tempo of the game. Of course betting on Dortmund has a small chance but this is not a problem because the expected odds are bigger and it could be that it will bring luck if Dortmund can play more impressively.

From their record in the domestic league of course Dortmund did not close the season in the best position but that is not a record that should be taken more seriously. Because in the Champions League Dortmund managed to show their consistency so that will be a benchmark before placing a bet. I'm more inclined to choose Real Madrid as champions because I don't doubt their strength this season, moreover they have quite stable perfection in their team so I'm sure they will be able to score goals early and win their 15th trophy.

A lot of people have been suggesting that Borussia Dortmund will likely beat Real Madrid in tomorrow's UEFA Champions League final because the German club might be likely underrated. For me, I think Borussia Dortmund have all it takes to defeat Real Madrid as well because they've shown enough strength and determination in the competition since the start of the season but there's one thing we are definitely not getting here and that the fact that Real Madrid have a huge advantage over the German club because they've got more number of experienced players who have played in the final of the competition on numerous occasions.
The winning mentality of the Real Madrid squad is simply greater than their German opponents and they have more quality players than Borussia Dortmund. As a Real Madrid fan that I'm, I'm very convinced that Real Madrid will win the competition for the 15th time at final whistle tomorrow.

[GiftedMAN]

Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.

Maybe the oddsmaker knows that a lot of people will place a bet in favor of Borussia Dortmund, and they are afraid of losing so much money if Borussia Dortmund shocks the world and beats Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League finals. That is the reason why the oddsmaker didn't give Borussia Dortmund much odds to beat Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League finals. 

Yes, you are very correct because the oddsmaker feel that a lot of people is going to place there bet on Borussia Dortmund to win Real Madrid that is why their odd is going down instead of going up, although they feel that is going be like Man City against Manchester united in the FA cup final because they gave Man City small odd because they were thinking that Man City won Manchester united has down, but at last it was really unbelievable to them.

Apart from the Champions League finals between Real Madrid and borussia Dortmund, in other matches and especially finals we also discover that odds do drop. Most times the book makers do not actually know what odds to set, what they do is to gamble it and see where the sentiment of the gamblers will go. It is normal that the odds should favor Real Madrid but the difference shouldn't be that much since it is a final. Even if they made mistake to have made the difference to be much, it is not late to be corrected and in the end no one actually knows what the outcome will be.

Most times the book markers give odds to teams that is playing each other according to the current form of the teams and according to the general statistics of the teams especially the H2H statistics. Yes I agree that the book markers actually gamble with odds in some cases but often times the general performance of the two teams is put into consideration before dropping the odds but if before the match  there is a case of an injury the team with the smaller odds, the book markers are always fast to make amends even the soccer gambling companies. In the case of the champions League match between Dortmund and Real Real Madrid, Dortmund is at 5.15 odd while Real Madrid is given 1.67 odd according to bet9ja. I don't think the odd difference is much compared to what I was expecting this is because Real Madrid has been in a better shape this season and every one knows that they should be giving a 70% ratio while Dortmund takes 30%  considering the overall performance this season.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.

I think in this case they are a little bit anticipated by Dortmund's performance in the Champions League because although they are not seeded in this match but of course we are aware that in the end the fact that they played well when beating Atletico and PSG before gives concern if they can take the opportunity and get an unexpected victory in this final.

In addition, I think the odds of 5 are still too high because after all, it looks like underestimating Dortmund which although we are aware that Madrid is the favorite but still Dortmund can bite in this match especially this is the opportunity they have been waiting for.

The problem is that sometimes Dortmund always have problems for important matches and last season when the last match before finally handing over the championship to Bayern even though they had benefited greatly by only having to win was actually proof that their mentality was still not that strong which in the end they failed to become champions.

[ampere]

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance.

I agree with you, if dortmund were playing another team I would have given them a chance as well, playing against an in form, fit and daring to go Madrid team in the champions league final.

In some way, I feel dortmund will put up a fight, maybe a 3-1 defeat

[Asiska02]

A lot of people have been suggesting that Borussia Dortmund will likely beat Real Madrid in tomorrow's UEFA Champions League final because the German club might be likely underrated. For me, I think Borussia Dortmund have all it takes to defeat Real Madrid as well because they've shown enough strength and determination in the competition since the start of the season but there's one thing we are definitely not getting here and that the fact that Real Madrid have a huge advantage over the German club because they've got more number of experienced players who have played in the final of the competition on numerous occasions.
The winning mentality of the Real Madrid squad is simply greater than their German opponents and they have more quality players than Borussia Dortmund. As a Real Madrid fan that I'm, I'm very convinced that Real Madrid will win the competition for the 15th time at final whistle tomorrow.

All Real Madrid and non-Real Madrid fans are aware and know that Real Madrid are the best team to win the final match tomorrow but the situation of an unforeseen situation, is what makes people to also have hope in Dortmund that they can win the competition. It could just happen as a luck but you can’t still deny them the trophy after they’ve won.

Dortmund spirit of sportmanship, team strength and quality should not be underestimated because they can also be brutal when they use what they’ve have at hands well to their advantage. Dortmund can also win and we cannot overlook the situation if it warrants to be so.

I know that this two teams are showing the agility and confidence to secure a win tomorrow but it is only their team strength and collective effort in the match tomorrow that will determine who the winner of the champions league finals will be. Real Madrid still remains the favorites but Dortmund can always try their best.

[Obim34]

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance. I understand that anything is possible in football and they have a chance as much as anyone else, but I feel like it is not going to be that easy to make it work, I feel like we are going to see it change a bit.

The best thing to do at this case would be just letting them be whatever they want to be, and they should not be worried about it. I think it is going to be fine, and with that I believe that if we are going to end up with a result that is a little sensitive. So, we should consider how to move forward with this situation. That would be lovely, and I think it is going to be something that will benefit Real Madrid, who will win this one for sure.

It's kind of obvious. They have a lot more experience, they have a lot better form and they're really certain to win this final. But there is still a hope alive in football fans for this intrigue, that maybe this time the match will be so interesting that Dortmund won't give up. It would be nice to see some intrigue in this match indeed. I'll be happy if Borussia score at least one goal, shows it's possible

Who knows, funny enough how at last Dortmund might even win this final. I have this intuitive thought that it will be so intense and very much competitive for Madrid to bag an easy win, even if they do win, the goal difference won't be upto a 2 goal lead. I feel really sorry for Dortmund if they should fail to carry this season Champions league title, they may not see this opportunity for some years to come, especially if the bigger teams decides to retain their performance or even do better.

Why do I have to feel that Dortmund are going to do what they did to PSG, by scoring a leading goal then go back to defend their goal, but we can't tell how fortunate they might be if at any possibility it favors them to score first but hope they know Madrid strikers are no play even if we have to compare them with PSG strikers that were unable to secure even a single goal in the semi finals.

[uchegod-21]

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance.

I agree with you, if dortmund were playing another team I would have given them a chance as well, playing against an in form, fit and daring to go Madrid team in the champions league final.

In some way, I feel dortmund will put up a fight, maybe a 3-1 defeat

No one do give Dortmund a chance against Real Madrid. We are all expecting Real Madrid to trash Dortmund and that is how it is supposed to be. But one exciting thing that you make me to watch this match with all amount of carefulness is that champions league has never stopped the surprise anyone. You never can tell this could be the highest shocker of the Champions League. Going to watch the match, I am not going to see how Real Madrid will win Dortmund. I am going to see how possible it will be for Dortmund to surprise Real Madrid and the whole world.

[arimamib]

Why do I have to feel that Dortmund are going to do what they did to PSG, by scoring a leading goal then go back to defend their goal, but we can't tell how fortunate they might be if at any possibility it favors them to score first but hope they know Madrid strikers are no play even if we have to compare them with PSG strikers that were unable to secure even a single goal in the semi finals.

The final have every reason to be an intense game. Real Madrid with their experience and quality won't have an easy game, they will need to fight for the trophy. Dortmund have quality to make Real Madrid suffering under tremendous attacks. Their cohesive display can make Madrid's defense to feel disruptive chaos that can lead to the defenders making mistakes.

Any side that concedes first will feel the hell of the game. It won't be easy to be under pressure of needing to score in this stake of the game. Each team will have a prepared tactics to defend a lead in case they score first, both team have practice this in the semi-finals. Anyway, the status of Real Madrid being the favorite and Dortmund being underdog won't have any meaning after the starting kick off, both team will have the same chance to win.      

[BitcoinHunt3r]

No one do give Dortmund a chance against Real Madrid. We are all expecting Real Madrid to trash Dortmund and that is how it is supposed to be. But one exciting thing that you make me to watch this match with all amount of carefulness is that champions league has never stopped the surprise anyone. You never can tell this could be the highest shocker of the Champions League. Going to watch the match, I am not going to see how Real Madrid will win Dortmund. I am going to see how possible it will be for Dortmund to surprise Real Madrid and the whole world.

Yeah we have been waiting for this match and finally in the next few hours this match will start. I have also been paying attention to the betting markets since the last few weeks  and there are indeed slight changes previously on the 1x2 betting market Real Madrid win was 1.63 and today it changed slightly to 1.65 meaning some gamblers shifted their bets to the other side and I understand this is the impact of some surprises in other finals such as the European League and recently the Conference League when the favorite team is defeated.

[Ahli38]

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance.

I agree with you, if dortmund were playing another team I would have given them a chance as well, playing against an in form, fit and daring to go Madrid team in the champions league final.

In some way, I feel dortmund will put up a fight, maybe a 3-1 defeat

Yeah right. In fact, Real Madrid's condition has actually become better compared to last season, it will make it even more difficult for Dortmund to be able to provide resistance in the final match. But Dortmund was able to get to the final because of their hard work. So we will definitely see an advantage that Dortmund will show in the final match. Hopefully the final match will be quite a fierce match. I don't want to see a final match that looks easy to win like Atalanta who looked so easy to beat Leverkusen in the Final. And I hope that in the Champions League Final both of them can give their best and make the match more interesting. But I know that every UCL Final always presents interesting and fierce matches. It's no surprise that in several seasons there has only been 1 goal in the Champions League final. But maybe this time I'm sure there will be at least 2 goals in the match.