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Question: 2023/24 Season Champion?  (Voting closed: September 22, 2023, 09:57:02 AM)
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July 03, 2023, 11:28:31 AM
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Arda Güler is an player with a bright future.
I think there is a situation, if he goes to a big team, he has to work hard to be in the team. (Barcelona, Madrid etc.)
If he can't play in the team he goes to, it will be very bad for his improve.
For this reason, he should make a good and correct decision.
Arda Guler is a very talented young player considering he is still 18 years old and he still has a very big chance of becoming a really quality player in the midfield position.
Currently he plays for the Fenerbahce S.K team and also the Turkish national team.
What you said is true if he can join a big European team to be able to improve his playing skills and also the popularity of his name, then I'm sure Arda Guler will become one of the star players for Turkey in the future.
It's not his choice alone that determines it but his playing skills that determine his future because if he plays well then it's likely that big teams will be looking to sign him.

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July 03, 2023, 12:46:29 PM
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I read today in a speculation that Merih Demiral was on Fenerbahçe's agenda. I don't know whether Merih Demiral will return to Turkey. But if Fenerbahce succeeds in this transfer, it will strengthen its squad.

Galatasaray and Beşiktaş, on the other hand, are very quiet in the transfer process for now.

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July 03, 2023, 01:06:08 PM
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Ismail Kartal is confident about himself that Fenerbahce will be the champions next season. However he had better not so sure about that. There is still a big threat like Galatasaray in the first place and Besiktas have also made some good improvement with Senol Gunes. We can see a high level of title competition among these 3 teams.

Besides Fenerbahce are really in a vicious cycle about their choice of managers. Most of the time we see them signing the same managers after a while. Ismail Kartal is an example for this situation. My next manager prediction is Ersun Yanal who is without club now. Ismail Kartal's contract last only a year for now.

If they fail to become champions again I have no doubt he would get sacked right away.
Fenerbahce has huge pressure on them about being champion after too long of a time. I agree that from what we saw from the last season, the competition between the big three will be fierce and we might see a close race. But Fenerbahce usually can't handle the pressure in these situations. They got Dzeko and Kent but other than that not a transfer yet. Ismail Kartal's credit is definitely for one season, he would definitely be fired if they can't be champions again. Beşiktaş on the other hand didn't make any transfer. I saw that Saiss might be gone for 4 million to Saudi Arabia. That is very low compared to his market after the World Cup. Vida and Saiss were huge profit loses for Besiktas. They should have sold them immediately after the big international tournaments. They also didn't contribute to the team anyway.

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July 03, 2023, 01:42:59 PM
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There is some new update on Arda Güler transfer to Barcelona according to what I have heard of. Barcelona have already signed a pre-agreement deal with him. The contract is expected to last 5 years and Barcelona will put a release clause of 1 billion euros into the contract. They have done the same exact same thing about release clause for Pedri and Gavi as well. However it is said that Fenerbahçe will still keep Arda for one last season now and next summer he will join Barcelona.

I wonder what Barcelona will plan about Arda in the long term. While there are Pedri and Gavi in the club his job is really hard. Loaning him would also be an option as long as the club choice is decent.
The same contract clauses are circulating on social media.It seems that he will most probably transfer to Barcelona.If barcelona want to sell pedri or gavi, we can say that there will be a chance for arda güler.Otherwise, it may be difficult for him to find a chance to play right now, but it is not impossible.After all, you buy a player like arda güler and you put a contract termination fee of 1 billion euros, that is, a release clause.Otherwise, you would not play such a player and you would cause a loss of value.
I would like him to stay at Fenerbahce for one more year. If he is going to transfer to Barcelona, Ali koç can handle it because he is close friends with the president of Barcelona if I'm not mistaken.

Barcelona are intentionally putting this high release clause to all of these young players to show that they won't be sold to any team. It has been like this for Pedri and Gavi. And it looks like Barcelona have made the same decision about Arda Güler as well. It feels really good to see a Turkish talent having an opportunity like this to improve himself more.

However I would have really liked to see Arda continuing to play for us for a couple of more years at least. We don't see this much talented young players in our country often. When we have such player this time we can't hold them here after big teams make offers for them.

The Turkish League continues to get worse in quality and I really don't know when we can reverse this.

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July 03, 2023, 02:04:03 PM
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What you said is true if he can join a big European team to be able to improve his playing skills and also the popularity of his name, then I'm sure Arda Guler will become one of the star players for Turkey in the future.

Barca president Joan Laporta has confirmed that the club are edging closer to completing a deal for the 18-year-old midfielder, whose release clause stands at €17.5m. "He is a very young player, it is true that our scouts have been following him for a long time and many big clubs in Europe want him. We are talking to Fenerbahce,” Laporta told TV3.
https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/arda-guler-told-put-off-barcelona-transfer-by-mesut-ozil-joan-laporta-confirms-talks-fenerbahce-wonderkid/bltcdc8505373221e05

The Spanish press also started to write about Arda Güler. There are rumors that Barcelona will sign him. It is also said that Barcelona will sign a 5-year contract with Arda Güler and will set the release clause as 1 billion Euros. There is even a statement by Laporta and it is known that Deco met with Arda Güler. I think this transfer is largely complete. They will transfer Arda Güler and let him play for Fenerbahçe for one more year. Then we will watch him in Barcelona. The process will go roughly like this.

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July 03, 2023, 02:32:38 PM
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What you said is true if he can join a big European team to be able to improve his playing skills and also the popularity of his name, then I'm sure Arda Guler will become one of the star players for Turkey in the future.

Barca president Joan Laporta has confirmed that the club are edging closer to completing a deal for the 18-year-old midfielder, whose release clause stands at €17.5m. "He is a very young player, it is true that our scouts have been following him for a long time and many big clubs in Europe want him. We are talking to Fenerbahce,” Laporta told TV3.
https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/arda-guler-told-put-off-barcelona-transfer-by-mesut-ozil-joan-laporta-confirms-talks-fenerbahce-wonderkid/bltcdc8505373221e05

The Spanish press also started to write about Arda Güler. There are rumors that Barcelona will sign him. It is also said that Barcelona will sign a 5-year contract with Arda Güler and will set the release clause as 1 billion Euros. There is even a statement by Laporta and it is known that Deco met with Arda Güler. I think this transfer is largely complete. They will transfer Arda Güler and let him play for Fenerbahçe for one more year. Then we will watch him in Barcelona. The process will go roughly like this.

I still remember Arda Turan in Barcelona.... ended being a very bad transfer, i dont know what happen to him, he was a A+ player when he comes from Atletico Madrid. So lets see how Arda guler develop.

For me this move from Barcelona shows they are very low on money.

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July 03, 2023, 10:42:08 PM
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Galatasaray wants to strengthen its midfield by transferring Argentine midfielder Leandro Paredes. If this transfer takes place, Galatasaray will pay 3.8 million euros to Paris Saint Germain for Leandro Paredes. In additiın to, there are rumors that Galatasaray wants to transfer left-defender. Galatasaray's left-defender candidates: Angelino, Rogerio and Nuno Tavares.

Also there ara friendly match. Galatasaray will play on Wednasday July 5 with Hull City.

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July 04, 2023, 06:03:21 AM
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There is some new update on Arda Güler transfer to Barcelona according to what I have heard of. Barcelona have already signed a pre-agreement deal with him. The contract is expected to last 5 years and Barcelona will put a release clause of 1 billion euros into the contract. They have done the same exact same thing about release clause for Pedri and Gavi as well. However it is said that Fenerbahçe will still keep Arda for one last season now and next summer he will join Barcelona.

I wonder what Barcelona will plan about Arda in the long term. While there are Pedri and Gavi in the club his job is really hard. Loaning him would also be an option as long as the club choice is decent.
The same contract clauses are circulating on social media.It seems that he will most probably transfer to Barcelona.If barcelona want to sell pedri or gavi, we can say that there will be a chance for arda güler.Otherwise, it may be difficult for him to find a chance to play right now, but it is not impossible.After all, you buy a player like arda güler and you put a contract termination fee of 1 billion euros, that is, a release clause.Otherwise, you would not play such a player and you would cause a loss of value.
I would like him to stay at Fenerbahce for one more year. If he is going to transfer to Barcelona, Ali koç can handle it because he is close friends with the president of Barcelona if I'm not mistaken.

Barcelona are intentionally putting this high release clause to all of these young players to show that they won't be sold to any team. It has been like this for Pedri and Gavi. And it looks like Barcelona have made the same decision about Arda Güler as well. It feels really good to see a Turkish talent having an opportunity like this to improve himself more.

However I would have really liked to see Arda continuing to play for us for a couple of more years at least. We don't see this much talented young players in our country often. When we have such player this time we can't hold them here after big teams make offers for them.

The Turkish League continues to get worse in quality and I really don't know when we can reverse this.
They are doing the logical thing, let's think of it as an investment in the future, they know the potential in the players and they will transfer them for a much higher amount than they are worth, so they put such a clause so that they can play for a long time in the team and no one will try to buy them.We can say that Barcelona is following a good way as a transfer policy.When they find such a talent from Turkish teams, we can say that it is a matter of time for them to grab it.
I wish Arda would play for Fenerbahçe for a long time, but this is not possible because the management of the team is a disgrace at the moment.These things were not considered when the contract was made and Arda will be transferred very cheaply, perhaps much, much cheaper than its value.It is not good for teams to go so cheaply when there are a limited number of such talented players in our country.

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July 04, 2023, 07:04:31 PM
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The problem with the release clause thing is that according to La Liga rules, you HAVE TO put a release clause into every single contract, of course it can be anything you want, it can be 1 euro, it can be 1 billion euro, it doesn't matter what it is but it has to be there. That is why they have it for all their players and not just pedri/gavi/arda, that is just the way it goes.

When you have young superstars that means you do not want to sell them, you want to keep them and looking how putting 1 billion makes sure that nobody can buy them without your consent, that is going to be a good thing. Or, even if you want to sell the player, you can sell whatever the price you put on them, not what the release clause dictates because that's too high.

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July 04, 2023, 08:03:41 PM
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Galatasaray wants to strengthen its midfield by transferring Argentine midfielder Leandro Paredes. If this transfer takes place, Galatasaray will pay 3.8 million euros to Paris Saint Germain for Leandro Paredes. In additiın to, there are rumors that Galatasaray wants to transfer left-defender. Galatasaray's left-defender candidates: Angelino, Rogerio and Nuno Tavares.

Also there ara friendly match. Galatasaray will play on Wednasday July 5 with Hull City.

Leandro Paredes would be a really solid move for Galatasaray for the midfield. As he is a decent defensive midfielder he can make their defense more reliable. Galatasaray are trying to sign a centre-forward as well on one hand. The attempts are continuing to bring back Icardi to the team. But Galatasaray's job will be really difficult at this point.

Al Shabab have offered 40 million euros per year for Icardi according to rumours. If this is true then Galatasaray's job is very difficult. However the important thing is if Icardi wants to go to Saudi Arabia already now or not. If he doesn't then Galatasaray would still have the upper hand. Besides I've heard that Icardi wants 10 million euros per year from Galatasaray. I think they shouldn't hesitate about this after watching his amazing performance for a season.

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July 04, 2023, 08:14:44 PM
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Parades and Sanches looks like they are both possible for us. I am not saying we will get both, but they are not out of reach for the time being, they are close to our level enough for us to get them. Morata also looks like the Icardi alternative if we fail to get Icardi. I wonder what happened with him, we know that we are trying to get him, but there isn't that much talks, eventually one day out of nowhere either we will get him or someone else will be, but until then they are keeping it a very well secret I assume. The other big thing I wonder was that we were looking to sell Boey and Nellson and seems like that's not happening, or at least not right now, I wonder what will happen with them, because that's what we trusted to do for a lot of money to use for most of these transfers.

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July 04, 2023, 08:31:39 PM
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Barcelona are intentionally putting this high release clause to all of these young players to show that they won't be sold to any team. It has been like this for Pedri and Gavi. And it looks like Barcelona have made the same decision about Arda Güler as well. It feels really good to see a Turkish talent having an opportunity like this to improve himself more.

However I would have really liked to see Arda continuing to play for us for a couple of more years at least. We don't see this much talented young players in our country often. When we have such player this time we can't hold them here after big teams make offers for them.

The Turkish League continues to get worse in quality and I really don't know when we can reverse this.

I have watched Ada Guler several times and I can confirm that he's a massive talent. It would be difficult for Fenerbahce to hold on to a talent like that for a long time. When I watched him last season, I was convinced he wouldn't remain in the Turkish league for a very long time. I even expected the drama surrounding him this summer to be more than this because he is that good.

The deal with Barcelona keeps him in Turkey for one more season which is a good thing for all parties. Its good for Fenerbahce because they have one more year to enjoy this wonderkid and one more year to scout for replacement. Good for Guler because it gives him one more year to improve and find himself more while its good for Barcelona because another season will most likely creat space in the right wing or the midfield for Guler.

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July 04, 2023, 08:45:05 PM
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Barcelona are intentionally putting this high release clause to all of these young players to show that they won't be sold to any team. It has been like this for Pedri and Gavi. And it looks like Barcelona have made the same decision about Arda Güler as well. It feels really good to see a Turkish talent having an opportunity like this to improve himself more.

However I would have really liked to see Arda continuing to play for us for a couple of more years at least. We don't see this much talented young players in our country often. When we have such player this time we can't hold them here after big teams make offers for them.

The Turkish League continues to get worse in quality and I really don't know when we can reverse this.

I have watched Ada Guler several times and I can confirm that he's a massive talent. It would be difficult for Fenerbahce to hold on to a talent like that for a long time. When I watched him last season, I was convinced he wouldn't remain in the Turkish league for a very long time. I even expected the drama surrounding him this summer to be more than this because he is that good.

The deal with Barcelona keeps him in Turkey for one more season which is a good thing for all parties. Its good for Fenerbahce because they have one more year to enjoy this wonderkid and one more year to scout for replacement. Good for Guler because it gives him one more year to improve and find himself more while its good for Barcelona because another season will most likely creat space in the right wing or the midfield for Guler.

Arda Guler is a great talent. I can't believe that the transfer fee determined by Fenerbahçe for Arda Güler is so low. It is very difficult for them to keep Arda Güler in the team. In the news reflected in the press, it is said that he will play in Fenerbahçe for 1 more year. I don't want him to go without a championship in Fenerbahçe. Arda Güler means a lot to Fenerbahçe fans. I hope he stays in Fenerbahçe for a few more seasons.

I think he is more talented than many young stars. Barcelona, Real Madrid and Milan made offers. I do not know the details, but we will hear the name Arda Güler for a long time.

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July 04, 2023, 10:49:55 PM
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Barcelona are intentionally putting this high release clause to all of these young players to show that they won't be sold to any team. It has been like this for Pedri and Gavi. And it looks like Barcelona have made the same decision about Arda Güler as well. It feels really good to see a Turkish talent having an opportunity like this to improve himself more.

However I would have really liked to see Arda continuing to play for us for a couple of more years at least. We don't see this much talented young players in our country often. When we have such player this time we can't hold them here after big teams make offers for them.

The Turkish League continues to get worse in quality and I really don't know when we can reverse this.

I have watched Ada Guler several times and I can confirm that he's a massive talent. It would be difficult for Fenerbahce to hold on to a talent like that for a long time. When I watched him last season, I was convinced he wouldn't remain in the Turkish league for a very long time. I even expected the drama surrounding him this summer to be more than this because he is that good.

The deal with Barcelona keeps him in Turkey for one more season which is a good thing for all parties. Its good for Fenerbahce because they have one more year to enjoy this wonderkid and one more year to scout for replacement. Good for Guler because it gives him one more year to improve and find himself more while its good for Barcelona because another season will most likely creat space in the right wing or the midfield for Guler.

Arda Guler is a great talent. I can't believe that the transfer fee determined by Fenerbahçe for Arda Güler is so low. It is very difficult for them to keep Arda Güler in the team. In the news reflected in the press, it is said that he will play in Fenerbahçe for 1 more year. I don't want him to go without a championship in Fenerbahçe. Arda Güler means a lot to Fenerbahçe fans. I hope he stays in Fenerbahçe for a few more seasons.

I think he is more talented than many young stars. Barcelona, Real Madrid and Milan made offers. I do not know the details, but we will hear the name Arda Güler for a long time.

Arda Güler is said to prefer Real Madrid. If true, the transfer will take place for 20 million Euros. It will be a disgraceful transfer case in the name of Turkish football history. Elvir Balic was transferred from Fenerbahçe to Real Madrid for 19.2 million dollars in the 1999-2000 season. Compare the time that has passed and think that if the transfer happens to the figures that are said, it will be a disgraceful transfer for Fenerbahce. Arda Güler did not choose to be a legend in Fenerbahçe like Alex and preferred Real Madrid, one of the biggest clubs in the world which is the dream of every football player today. I do not feel sorry for the young football player, after all, he is a very talented player and Fenerbahçe's capacity is clear. Everyone's sense of belonging is different and Fenerbahçe is just one step for Arda. Good luck to Arda in his new team.

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July 05, 2023, 01:30:34 AM
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I read today in a speculation that Merih Demiral was on Fenerbahçe's agenda. I don't know whether Merih Demiral will return to Turkey. But if Fenerbahce succeeds in this transfer, it will strengthen its squad.

Galatasaray and Beşiktaş, on the other hand, are very quiet in the transfer process for now.
If that rumor with Merih Demiral is true its definitely bad move for his career. He is too young to return Türkiye to continue his career in low profile. He should be doing much better in European teams. Well Turkish players are nearly all quick homesick. They just can't live without ever visiting İstanbul or İzmir. Maybe families influence their career too. This is main reason why we can't have very very high level players. Talents are wasted in home with relaxed lifestyle.
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July 05, 2023, 08:55:20 AM
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I read today in a speculation that Merih Demiral was on Fenerbahçe's agenda. I don't know whether Merih Demiral will return to Turkey. But if Fenerbahce succeeds in this transfer, it will strengthen its squad.

Galatasaray and Beşiktaş, on the other hand, are very quiet in the transfer process for now.
I think it would be a great transfer if Merih Demiral comes back to Fenerbahçe.He can do very good things both because of having such a talented stopper who is a national team player in the squad and because he is a career footballer.Merih Demiral had a troubled period when he left Fenerbahçe and when I read the same news, I saw a news saying that ali koç and ismail kartal said "let's forget everything and start again".
I hope it is true and such a transfer will add strength to Fenerbahçe. It will definitely be a great advantage in terms of domestic rotation and more foreign players can be bought.

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July 05, 2023, 11:15:30 AM
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They are doing the logical thing, let's think of it as an investment in the future, they know the potential in the players and they will transfer them for a much higher amount than they are worth, so they put such a clause so that they can play for a long time in the team and no one will try to buy them.We can say that Barcelona is following a good way as a transfer policy.When they find such a talent from Turkish teams, we can say that it is a matter of time for them to grab it.
I wish Arda would play for Fenerbahçe for a long time, but this is not possible because the management of the team is a disgrace at the moment.These things were not considered when the contract was made and Arda will be transferred very cheaply, perhaps much, much cheaper than its value.It is not good for teams to go so cheaply when there are a limited number of such talented players in our country.

Real Madrid and Barcelona both have reached an agreement with Fenerbahçe by the way. Fenerbahçe asked from both clubs to loan Arda to them for one season at least. Both clubs seem okay with this however there is one serious problem about this. Arda doesn't want this formula. He just wants to go there and not to come back to the Turkish League right away.

Some fans are really disappointed that he doesn't want this for at least one year. To be honest I would have also liked to see him continuing to play for us. My hope about him from now on is to see him improving his skills regularly and see him working hard to be an important part of a big European club in this situation.

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July 05, 2023, 01:58:31 PM
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Leandro Paredes would be a really solid move for Galatasaray for the midfield. As he is a decent defensive midfielder he can make their defense more reliable. Galatasaray are trying to sign a centre-forward as well on one hand. The attempts are continuing to bring back Icardi to the team. But Galatasaray's job will be really difficult at this point.

Al Shabab have offered 40 million euros per year for Icardi according to rumours. If this is true then Galatasaray's job is very difficult. However the important thing is if Icardi wants to go to Saudi Arabia already now or not. If he doesn't then Galatasaray would still have the upper hand. Besides I've heard that Icardi wants 10 million euros per year from Galatasaray. I think they shouldn't hesitate about this after watching his amazing performance for a season.
Arrival of Leandro Parede is surely going to have good sign for the Galatasaray but surely on other hand lost of Icardi is big lost with now most chances if this rumour is true about Al-Shabab then I am 100% sure he will not come here in Turkey because many players are now preferring Saudi League for the huge salaries and also things are going positive for this league as they are investing and bringing top players and coaches as well this is going to be had big problem for the Turkish League in this season or may be for the next season as well.

Galatasaray is again in good position hopefully they will be in Champions League main round for the next season, and they need to be better in defence because now it's more competitive and hard time for teams like Galatasaray in this big event hopefully they will do better than previous attempts and have good end of this season as well.

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July 05, 2023, 05:05:13 PM
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Galatasaray wants to strengthen its midfield by transferring Argentine midfielder Leandro Paredes. If this transfer takes place, Galatasaray will pay 3.8 million euros to Paris Saint Germain for Leandro Paredes. In additiın to, there are rumors that Galatasaray wants to transfer left-defender. Galatasaray's left-defender candidates: Angelino, Rogerio and Nuno Tavares.

Also there ara friendly match. Galatasaray will play on Wednasday July 5 with Hull City.

Leandro Paredes would be a really solid move for Galatasaray for the midfield. As he is a decent defensive midfielder he can make their defense more reliable. Galatasaray are trying to sign a centre-forward as well on one hand. The attempts are continuing to bring back Icardi to the team. But Galatasaray's job will be really difficult at this point.

Al Shabab have offered 40 million euros per year for Icardi according to rumours. If this is true then Galatasaray's job is very difficult. However the important thing is if Icardi wants to go to Saudi Arabia already now or not. If he doesn't then Galatasaray would still have the upper hand. Besides I've heard that Icardi wants 10 million euros per year from Galatasaray. I think they shouldn't hesitate about this after watching his amazing performance for a season.

I agree with your opinion. Paredes can make Galatasaray's defense more reliable. It would be a really solid move for a Champions League match.

Galatasaray will face at Hull City at tonight for friendly game. Galatasaray's starting XI against Hull City: Batuhan, Dubois, Kaan, Emin, Kazımcan, Torreira, Berkan, Yunus, Cicaldau, Mertens, Barış. Also Hull City's starting XI against Galatasaray: Lo-Tutala, Coyle, Jones, Leake, McLoughlin, Docherty, Seri, Ozan Tufan, Allahyar, Delap, Tetteh.

Galatasaray's next match will be played on Monday, July 10 with Kisvárda FC. Then will be played on Friday, July 14 with FK Austria Wien.

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July 05, 2023, 06:45:27 PM
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Also there ara friendly match. Galatasaray will play on Wednasday July 5 with Hull City.

well, when i saw the news that galatasaray would be losing some of their good players i thought that with this friendly match i would see how they would do without some of their good players and from what i can see from the 1st half they are doing very well, already they managed to score 3 goals and conceded 1 goal, it's still the 1st half but from what i see galatasaray is being better than hull city, it's true that even on paper hull city is a very weak opponent when compared to galatasaray but we have to see that this galatasaray is not the same strong team as last season, it does not have the same cast then

I see that for Hull City it is not a very big difference. in my opinion and that this season that will start galatasaray will have a lot of difficulties to win the turkish league again, i dare say that they will not win the turkish league this season. well, there are still 45 minutes left for the friendly to end and hull city can still manage to score 2 more goals and equalize the game, something curious about this game and that two goals from galatasaray came from defense players, it could be the first game, but being a friendly and with a less strong team the attackers had to score a goal

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