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Question: 2023/24 Season Champion?  (Voting closed: September 22, 2023, 09:57:02 AM)
Beşiktaş - 8 (36.4%)
Fenerbahçe - 5 (22.7%)
Galatasaray - 9 (40.9%)
Trabzonspor - 0 (0%)
Other - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 22

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July 17, 2023, 09:17:55 AM
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Trabzonspor announced that Dorukhan Toköz's contract has been terminated. This Dorukhan, 27 years old, is now clubless when he should have played in his prime. We saw how unstable he was when he left Beşiktaş.

Meanwhile, Fenerbahçe will pay Dusan Tadic 4.2 million Euro per year. Beşiktaş would never have paid such a salary. He wouldn't even get half of that. Fenerbahçe again spent too much money for nothing. Paying 8.5 million Euro to a 35-year-old player for 2 seasons is nothing but really turning the team into a nursing home together with 38-year-old Dzeko. If their costs were low, they would be understandable transfers, but as it stands, it creates a financial burden on the club.

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July 17, 2023, 09:23:15 AM
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Trabzonspor announced that Dorukhan Toköz's contract has been terminated. This Dorukhan, 27 years old, is now clubless when he should have played in his prime. We saw how unstable he was when he left Beşiktaş.

Meanwhile, Fenerbahçe will pay Dusan Tadic 4.2 million Euro per year. Beşiktaş would never have paid such a salary. He wouldn't even get half of that. Fenerbahçe again spent too much money for nothing. Paying 8.5 million Euro to a 35-year-old player for 2 seasons is nothing but really turning the team into a nursing home together with 38-year-old Dzeko. If their costs were low, they would be understandable transfers, but as it stands, it creates a financial burden on the club.
I agree completely. I honestly even think Fenerbahce is going crazy. The president must be so sick of all the criticism and being unsuccessful for a long time, he is doing some weird stuff. Ok, they practically stole Tadic from Besiktas's hands, but with this amount of money, at his age, is it really worth it? Fenerbahce might be champions this season after such a long time, but still we can't say they establish a proper system that could be sustainable for years. With Dzeko and Tadic, they will probably stop performing properly in the middle of their contracts. Still, if they have money that they can spend, from president's pockets, they should spend and be champions.

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July 17, 2023, 09:28:42 AM
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Ali Koç had to make radical decisions and spend a little bit of money and we can say that he has finally started to do this.The addition of such star and experienced players can be shown as important steps towards the championship, but I don't think these transfers will be enough.Tadic has played as a player who scored a lot of goals and assists during his seasons at Ajax.He will be a great contribution to Fenerbahçe.He will most likely be a winger, but I'm not sure.Tadic will wear the number 10 jersey at Fenerbahçe and this can be seen as an indicator that he can actually play behind the striker.

Tadic is naturally a left winger but he can play as a striker as well if there is such need. When Dzeko isn't able to play maybe Ismail Kartal can try Tadic as centre-forward as well. It depends on Umut's benefiting from the chances he finds in matches as well of course. I would like to see Tadic playing in his natural position as he can be more productive to the team there. He can still make a significant contribution with many goals and assists as he has been just like that in the recent times.

I also see his being old as a doubtful thing about him but it is up to his continuing to be ambitious after coming here.
If he thinks of playing Tadic as a winger, he will have to play a Turkish player in the future.Otherwise he can overcome the rule of 3 local players according to the current formation.Ismail Kartalal has a lot of foreign players and I wonder what kind of squad planning he will do.3 Turkish players should be in the starting 11 and it is a matter of curiosity who he will preferably choose.I have Ferdi,Ismail and Emre Mor/Serdar Aziz in my mind.Otherwise there may be problems in terms of rotation.If Livakovic does not come, Berke will go in goal anyway.
Tadic may be old but I think his experience is more than enough for the league. We can say that he scored a lot of goals and assists during his time at Ajax every season.

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July 17, 2023, 12:11:35 PM
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Sebastian Szymanski is another arrival who came to Fenerbahçe 5 days ago. I didn't know about this transfer as I don't see his name on the news of websites that I follow closely. And it looks like Fenerbahçe paid 9.75m euros for his transfer fee as well. He is an attacking midfielder and I assume he has been brought to fill Arda's place in the team.

Szymanski was loaned to Feyenoord last season and he had stats like 10 goals, 7 assists in 40 matches. He is 24 years old as well which is a positive thing for Fenerbahçe recently. Because they have been focused on bringing old players mostly. I hope Szymanski can make the attacking line more deadly.

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July 17, 2023, 01:16:24 PM
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Galatasaray have largely agreed with Icardi. I think this transfer is considered over and there will be no problems after that. But we need to make another transfer instead of Gomis. According to media reports, it is said that Cedric Bakambu will be transferred instead of Gomis. Galatasaray can announce this transfer as soon as Al-Nasr terminates Cedric Bakambu's contract. Cedric Bakambu previously played in Türkiye. He transferred from Türkiye to Villareal. After that short European adventure, he transferred to China and then to Arab teams from China. He did not play in the competitive leagues for a long time. This is a big handicap. But fortunately we want to sign him as Icardi's backup.

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July 17, 2023, 04:39:59 PM
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Galatasaray have largely agreed with Icardi. I think this transfer is considered over and there will be no problems after that. But we need to make another transfer instead of Gomis. According to media reports, it is said that Cedric Bakambu will be transferred instead of Gomis. Galatasaray can announce this transfer as soon as Al-Nasr terminates Cedric Bakambu's contract. Cedric Bakambu previously played in Türkiye. He transferred from Türkiye to Villareal. After that short European adventure, he transferred to China and then to Arab teams from China. He did not play in the competitive leagues for a long time. This is a big handicap. But fortunately we want to sign him as Icardi's backup.
PSG has given its blessing to Mauro Icardi to move permanently to Galatasary in this transfer window, Icardi managed to help Galatasaray win the Turkish Super League trophy last season. The statistics show good numbers by scoring 16 goals in 22 matches in all competitions, the result is that the Galatasaray management are increasingly convinced to retain Icardi by making his contract permanent from PSG.

I think returning to PSG is also not the right choice for him because he has to compete with Mbappe and Neymar in the main striker position. It is difficult to shift these two names, especially as Luis Enrique will choose to make Icardi a cover for Neymar and Mbappe. If it can be consistent with its current performance, it is likely that Icardi will get a place and be called up again to strengthen the Argentina National Team at the Copa America in June 2024.

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July 17, 2023, 05:50:39 PM
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Fenerbahce is again making big deals during the transfer process. First a big star like Dzeko, now another big football player like Tadic. Fenerbahce's squad is dazzling. While we all reading that a great player like Tadic had agreed with Beşiktaş, Fenerbahçe signed Tadic. I think it is a big disappointment for Beşiktaş fans.

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Fenerbahce is again making big deals during the transfer process. First a big star like Dzeko, now another big football player like Tadic. Fenerbahce's squad is dazzling. While we all reading that a great player like Tadic had agreed with Beşiktaş, Fenerbahçe signed Tadic. I think it is a big disappointment for Beşiktaş fans.

It was really interesting to have such a transfer. He came to Fenerbahçe when everyone was thinking that he would come to Beşiktaş. We can say that there was a slight shock. Football is like that, you think it's done, but suddenly the players in the team can change Smiley
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July 17, 2023, 06:51:34 PM
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Ali Koç had to make radical decisions and spend a little bit of money and we can say that he has finally started to do this.The addition of such star and experienced players can be shown as important steps towards the championship, but I don't think these transfers will be enough.Tadic has played as a player who scored a lot of goals and assists during his seasons at Ajax.He will be a great contribution to Fenerbahçe.He will most likely be a winger, but I'm not sure.Tadic will wear the number 10 jersey at Fenerbahçe and this can be seen as an indicator that he can actually play behind the striker.

Ali Koç was criticized for not transferring star players to the team in previous seasons. He is handing out money to star football players this season. However, this time he receives criticism that he did not transfer the right players. As a matter of fact, I consider some of these criticisms to be justified because Dzeko and Tadic are really old football players. I'm not sure if these players can play for 90 minutes in all matches in the league. If they do not become champions in the league next season, they will have to grapple with many problems within the team.

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July 17, 2023, 10:00:39 PM
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Fenerbahce is again making big deals during the transfer process. First a big star like Dzeko, now another big football player like Tadic. Fenerbahce's squad is dazzling. While we all reading that a great player like Tadic had agreed with Beşiktaş, Fenerbahçe signed Tadic. I think it is a big disappointment for Beşiktaş fans.
Fenerbahce isn't slowing down on there quest to make their club the strongest in the Turkish league and the signing of big players like Edin Dzeko and Tadic will surely go a lone way in adding huge qualities to their side.
Besiktas who was close signing Tadic will surely regret losing him to their rivals. Fenerbahce I think will have a good season come next season in not just domestically but also I. European competitions

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July 17, 2023, 10:10:06 PM
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Besiktas are really losing their targets to their rival teams one by one. First Halil Dervisoglu and now Dusan Tadic. They already don't seem to have much funds to use for transfers and this makes things even more difficult for Besiktas side. So far there isn't any impressive transfer by them and I'm curious how things will go in the coming days.

Galatasaray have already made their squad very solid and Fenerbahce are going on in the same direction as well. Besiktas need to be able to answer them somehow with good transfers otherwise I don't know how much they can be competitive for the league title this season for now.

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This season they have gotten some big names, I do not know much about any other teams but I have seen Galatasaray and Fenerbahce on Fabrizio a lot which shows that they are getting some great players, I have seen Dzeko and Tadic for Fenerbahce, and I have seen Angelino and Icardi (still not official) for Galatasaray, and those are some big names for sure.

I feel like they are going to be pretty great and we are going to see these two teams do very well in the European games they play, there is of course no guarantee and they may not be that great but I feel like it is going to be quite possible for both of them to be out of group stages, depending on the draw of course, if they draw a good group, they can both do that.

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July 18, 2023, 09:37:38 AM
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Besiktas are really losing their targets to their rival teams one by one. First Halil Dervisoglu and now Dusan Tadic. They already don't seem to have much funds to use for transfers and this makes things even more difficult for Besiktas side. So far there isn't any impressive transfer by them and I'm curious how things will go in the coming days.

Galatasaray have already made their squad very solid and Fenerbahce are going on in the same direction as well. Besiktas need to be able to answer them somehow with good transfers otherwise I don't know how much they can be competitive for the league title this season for now.
Beşiktaş doesn't seem to afford huge budget compared to Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray. Long years of unsuccessful seasons made them lose tonnes of money. I don't think their revenues are as high as Fener or Galatasaray anyways. They have smallest fanbase all between 3. They may do panic last minute transfers that may end up even worse than last season. They at least try to achieve signings with some young talents as investment to future. Fans may understand if they announce their future plan.
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July 18, 2023, 02:26:50 PM
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Fenerbahce is again making big deals during the transfer process. First a big star like Dzeko, now another big football player like Tadic. Fenerbahce's squad is dazzling. While we all reading that a great player like Tadic had agreed with Beşiktaş, Fenerbahçe signed Tadic. I think it is a big disappointment for Beşiktaş fans.

It was really interesting to have such a transfer. He came to Fenerbahçe when everyone was thinking that he would come to Beşiktaş. We can say that there was a slight shock. Football is like that, you think it's done, but suddenly the players in the team can change Smiley
Fenerbahçe built a strong squad and looks like they will play much better this year

I agree with your opinion. Fenerbahçe has built a stronger squad better than in previous years. In my opinion, Tadic will in adding huge qualities to Fenerbahçe. Tadic played as a player who scored a lot of goals and assists last seasons. He is a player with a "double double" performance at previous years. Fenerbahce I think will have huge succes season come both Turkish Super League and Europe Conference League.

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From Fabrizio Romano on Twitter:
Besiktas are set to sign Brazilian CB Lyanco from Southampton, here we go! Deal agreed between all parties ⚪️⚫️🦅 #Besiktas
Understand Lyanco will sign contract valid until June 2027 — he will fly to Turkey tomorrow, Wednesday.

It looks like Beşiktaş finally found their new stopper. Now Saiss can go to any team he wants. On defense, Omar Colley and Lyanco can play together, there are also alternatives.

Now it's time to get a player with a very strong physique to the midfield and a good player to the wing who can both score and assist. If these 2 important transfers are made, the first 11 will be formed. Quality Turkish players should also be recruited in terms of squad depth, but the priority should be getting 2 important names for the starting 11 first.

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Galatasaray's opponent in the UEFA Champions League 2nd Qualification Round was FK Žalgiris Vilnius. Galatasaray is playing the last friendly match before the FK Žalgiris Vilnius match with Strum Graz at moment.

Galatasaray's starting XI againstStrum Graz: Sacha Boey, Nelsson, Abdülkerim, Angelino, Berkan, Midstjö, Zaniolo, Mertens, Kerem, Barış Alper. Also Strum Graz's starting XI against Galatasaray: Kjell Scherpen, Jon Stankovic, Gregory Wüthrich, Jusuf Gazibegovic, Otar Kiteishvili, Manprit Sarkaria, Tomi Horvat, Stefan Hierlander, Szymon Wlodarczyk, David Schnegg, David Affengruber

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Easy win for Galatasaray if they are concentrates in the game. The real matches its gonna be in next round , but you cant understimate you opponent.

THe other problem sometimes its the coach its still testing players and tactis, so they use this kind of games to keep testing, and sometimes you can pay for that.

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Zalgiris is going to be an easy peasy opponent for Galatasaray on paper. There is a huge squad quality gap between two sides above all else. Some people talk about the Tromso incident in the past. But what is in the past is in the past. Galatasaray are playing with different players and a different coach as well. Okan Buruk has done really good so far with the management. Now the squad is being strengthened more with new arrivals. They are building a squad that could do nice things in the Champions League.

However Icardi transfer still hasn't been completed officially. I have read that his wife's health isn't in good condition now so his priority is his wife for now.

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July 19, 2023, 06:32:31 PM
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The difference I see on transfermarkt (which is not always %100 true of course) is that Galatasaray worths 170+ million and Zalgiris worths 8 million. There are players worth nearly 3+ times the whole club so it should not really be a problem. I am not saying that it will be "easy", but it should be easy without a doubt.

Of course there are cases in the football world where the better teams ended up losing to much worse teams so we could have something like that and we shouldn't really be worried about it, but at the end of the day if it's about getting better then I am sure that the team will get better one or the other way and will win this one. There are still some more games to play after this, so it's not like win this and go to groups.

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July 19, 2023, 09:27:42 PM
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I dont see that so much, the ammount of money who worht every team sometimes its not close to reality, a lot of price are overinflated and also for example if you ahve some old player his amrket value its gonna be quite low asides of he can be Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo. And in the oposite side you can have one young that only for his potential can worth 100 million.

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