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October 12, 2025, 08:33:06 PM
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The next match against Liverpool will be a highly prestigious match for both teams, but I wouldn't expect too much from Manchester United. Overall, Manchester United's strength isn't much better than Liverpool's this season, so it would only be a major surprise if Manchester United were able to win this match against Liverpool.

It is not about wanting to belittle or underestimate, but at this moment any team that plays against MU will find it very easy to seek defeat, because MU is in many problems , not only Technical but there must be internal problems, what happened to this team is that it was in a high position and went from more to less and the worst thing is that it is still going down, the truth is that what is Happening to this team is very bad luck.

I don’t understand how the former speaker is rating this Manchester United team so high, they have no strength compared to Liverpool even when is weak. Manchester is not having a great start and has only had a few good games and he’s trying to compare it to Liverpool who just had a small dip in form. Manchester has to up their game a bit more before you can start comparing them to Liverpool even in their bad form.
A lot of the new signings in. Liverpool has not pick form including Mohammed Salah who has not found his rhythm and they’re still good to an extent, so imagine what will happen when they all pick form, Liverpool is gonna be unstoppable.

 
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October 12, 2025, 08:55:22 PM
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I am sold off to the fact that Arsenal looks like a great club for good things to happen. They now look promising like they'll be awarded the trophy soon. They are playing good football bit they need results to keep the management trusting thier manager. I will say they can win the league if they work hard.
Manchester United will suffer more and expect more inconsistent performance bit they have trophies Arsenal are struggling to get. They do not seem like the club predicted to finish inside the top
It's true that arsenal has not been great and looks good for the main time, but we should not be jumping into conclusions because we are still in the starting point of the season, the season is not up to even week ten so we should not jump into conclusions. As for Manchester United there problem is to remain consistent this season so they will have to put more extra work this season.

There is still a long game to play before the ending of the season and there is still hope for those big clubs that haven't started doing well to wake up and assume there rightful position. I believe with time this season, Ruben Amorim will do well but if they didn't Amorim should get ready for his sack because Manchester united didn't sign him to come lose game rather he was signed to come recreate or change the recent story and form of Manchester united and as such more work is expected of him. If you are mentioning club in England currently, you can not mention 1 or 2 without mentioning arsenal because as it stands they are ready this season.

 
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October 12, 2025, 09:27:43 PM
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The next match against Liverpool will be a highly prestigious match for both teams, but I wouldn't expect too much from Manchester United. Overall, Manchester United's strength isn't much better than Liverpool's this season, so it would only be a major surprise if Manchester United were able to win this match against Liverpool.
Liverpool hasn't had much problem facing Manchester United in their past meetings but Liverpool's current form is making everyone doubtful about their victory in this game. Well, no one can predict the outcome correctly but I still believe Liverpool will be able to win this game. They have the home advantage, and probably the international break will reset their performance to a better one. Manchester United can't underestimated, they have had a couple of good performances recently and are looking better now so they should be able to challenge Liverpool for the points. All they need to do is to maintain consistency and hold on to the performance.

It is not about wanting to belittle or underestimate, but at this moment any team that plays against MU will find it very easy to seek defeat, because MU is in many problems , not only Technical but there must be internal problems, what happened to this team is that it was in a high position and went from more to less and the worst thing is that it is still going down, the truth is that what is Happening to this team is very bad luck.

You are not wrong Manchester United is still faced with these problems and that has been hindering their performance all this while but since Amorim have been assured more time let's see how he changes the team.

 
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October 12, 2025, 09:41:42 PM
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It is not about wanting to belittle or underestimate, but at this moment any team that plays against MU will find it very easy to seek defeat, because MU is in many problems , not only Technical but there must be internal problems, what happened to this team is that it was in a high position and went from more to less and the worst thing is that it is still going down, the truth is that what is Happening to this team is very bad luck.
Manchester United doesn’t really understand themselves right now, their performance is bad, and Manchester United are conceding easily in matches. Whenever Manchester United are playing right now, am not always confident in them, because I know even if they are playing against a weaker team, there is no assurance that Manchester United will be winning. I don’t really know what is wrong with United, but with their performance, I know they have internal problem.

Manchester United next match will be against Liverpool, I don’t know how Manchester United will be able to get a win in the match, if Manchester United will play the same way they have been playing since beginning of the season, then I expect Liverpool to score so many goals in the match, we can’t compare Liverpool performance with Manchester United performance, even as Liverpool lost their last two premier league matches, they still better than Manchester United in every way.

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October 12, 2025, 10:48:00 PM
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There is still a long game to play before the ending of the season and there is still hope for those big clubs that haven't started doing well to wake up and assume there rightful position. I believe with time this season, Ruben Amorim will do well but if they didn't Amorim should get ready for his sack because Manchester united didn't sign him to come lose game rather he was signed to come recreate or change the recent story and form of Manchester united and as such more work is expected of him. If you are mentioning club in England currently, you can not mention 1 or 2 without mentioning arsenal because as it stands they are ready this season.
You didn't see the news that the management are not ready to sack Amorim, they want him to stay for the three years under his contract. The management are not happy about the team results but are willing to endure and see the future in the long run with Amorim. My speculation for Manchester United is that they will end the season among top ten in the league, they maybe out of form but can't doubt a possible recovery in the long run. There will also be changes in the top four positions, Manchester City and Chelsea are expected to compete for those positions, Tottenham and Bournemouth don't look favorites to finish up there.

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October 12, 2025, 11:04:34 PM
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There is still a long game to play before the ending of the season and there is still hope for those big clubs that haven't started doing well to wake up and assume there rightful position. I believe with time this season, Ruben Amorim will do well but if they didn't Amorim should get ready for his sack because Manchester united didn't sign him to come lose game rather he was signed to come recreate or change the recent story and form of Manchester united and as such more work is expected of him. If you are mentioning club in England currently, you can not mention 1 or 2 without mentioning arsenal because as it stands they are ready this season.
You didn't see the news that the management are not ready to sack Amorim, they want him to stay for the three years under his contract. The management are not happy about the team results but are willing to endure and see the future in the long run with Amorim. My speculation for Manchester United is that they will end the season among top ten in the league, they maybe out of form but can't doubt a possible recovery in the long run. There will also be changes in the top four positions, Manchester City and Chelsea are expected to compete for those positions, Tottenham and Bournemouth don't look favorites to finish up there.

If Manchester United didn’t sack a manager like Erik ten Hag, I don’t think they’ll part ways with Amorim either. I believe they’ll give Amorim more time and resources because he was specifically brought in for a long-term project, they clearly have high hopes for him.

In my opinion, unless something major happens, he’ll stay in charge for at least a couple more seasons.
And honestly, that’s the right decision, he should be allowed to shape the team the way he wants. I don’t think the current squad fully reflects his vision yet.

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October 12, 2025, 11:23:25 PM
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If you have been a fan of any club that has struggled at any point you will surely understand how Manchester fans feel right now and why they react that way. Nobody likes to lose or be performing poorly, it has not been easy with the supporters and I understand how they feel because I have been there before.  Some say the problem is the players who don’t give everything on the pitch but what do you expect when the rigid formation and tactics doesn’t work fine with them and they have to manage through whichever way possible.

No one surely likes to lose. Looking back at Manchester united glory days in the EPL and their performance now, it's not surprising the fans aren't happy with the teams poor performance. It's quite humbling as a fan seeing man united play a game with people already speculating their loss. And a lot of times, they end up losing as predicted.
I don't think the cause of their poor performance is in their players. They've had some talented players come and go and still do. The bulk of the problem lies with the head coach and tactics being used.
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October 13, 2025, 12:11:20 AM
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Anyways, I completely agree with you though, any team playing Manchester united right possibly do not even have to train because defeating them is just as easy as one taking food and putting inside his or her mouth..
But then, this also doesn't not mean that we shouldnt watch out for surprises, Liverpool on the other hand have lost two matches consecutively, Let that not be the beginning of their own problem too 🤔 fingers cross while we look forward to the match.

Manchester United are not even this bad as the media made it to be, the number of poor games usually over shadows their good games but given their tough fixtures in their last 7 games this season and their position on the table is enough prove they're not as bad as they were last season.

Played Arsenal, Manchester city and Chelsea and are still in the top 10 is a positive sign of what is to come. We can all agreed they have been unlucky in some games as the results doesn't tell their real performance.
Looking at the standings on the table I also don’t think United are very bad because the sit on tenth position with three wins, a draw and three losses with just six points away from first position and four points away from fourth position. I feel they are still in a good position and can get better as the season progresses.

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October 13, 2025, 01:32:09 AM
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I might be wrong in my own assertion concerning this very issue of Liverpool, but I think the coach is having a problem in some way with the players on how to fit them all in the team. Liverpool is now a star studded team and needs proper management. He got it right in his first season when managing a less stared team and everything was ok but right now, even when we thought Liverpool was going to be unstoppable this season because of the numbers of quality signings they made this season but that's not what we are seeing right. Liverpool is struggling and that's what it is, maybe Slot doesn't yet know how to manage this kind of team with these kind of star players.
Arne Slot is still working on his best tactics to optimize his entire starting lineup. After all, they were all top players at their previous clubs. So, let's hope this is simply a matter of adaptation. As long as all these top players respect each other and are solid within the team, avoid the arrogance of top players, and avoid greed, it shouldn't take long for Arne Slot to solidify them all.



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October 13, 2025, 03:34:20 AM
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I might be wrong in my own assertion concerning this very issue of Liverpool, but I think the coach is having a problem in some way with the players on how to fit them all in the team. Liverpool is now a star studded team and needs proper management. He got it right in his first season when managing a less stared team and everything was ok but right now, even when we thought Liverpool was going to be unstoppable this season because of the numbers of quality signings they made this season but that's not what we are seeing right. Liverpool is struggling and that's what it is, maybe Slot doesn't yet know how to manage this kind of team with these kind of star players.
Liverpool had declining performances in latest matches and the international duties of star players recent days potentially affect their readiness and performances in next several matches too. It will be challenging for Slot to manage Liverpool in coming weeks, firstly because of FIFA day effects, secondly their latest bad form, but he has to try hard and do it as best as possible. Otherwise, Liverpool will fall into a bigger crisis in coming weeks which will harm their chance of defending the title.

Arne Slot is still working on his best tactics to optimize his entire starting lineup. After all, they were all top players at their previous clubs. So, let's hope this is simply a matter of adaptation. As long as all these top players respect each other and are solid within the team, avoid the arrogance of top players, and avoid greed, it shouldn't take long for Arne Slot to solidify them all.
After managing Liverpool a first season last year and won Premier League title, Slot already went through a most challenging season and time with Liverpool. In this season, the second season he manages Liverpool, I don't think he still has difficulty with adaptation to the club and the league. With changes in player resource since the summer, Slot will need to use new players together with existing players in the last season well. Latest bad matches and defeats are like strong warnings for Slot as the task of combining players is hard and defending the crown is more difficult.











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You are not wrong Manchester United is still faced with these problems and that has been hindering their performance all this while but since Amorim have been assured more time let's see how he changes the team.

Actually, I still remember Arteta with Arsenal and Chelsea. They both had periods of poor performance, and they needed a long process to return to where they are today. But I recall Arteta with Arsenal, he went through a long process. In the end, they managed to transform the team. This situation might be similar for Man United at the moment. So giving time is not wrong if clear progress is visible. Hopefully Man United's management also supports Amorim not just with a contract but of course, the player transfer policy can be key.

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You are not wrong Manchester United is still faced with these problems and that has been hindering their performance all this while but since Amorim have been assured more time let's see how he changes the team.
Actually, I still remember Arteta with Arsenal and Chelsea. They both had periods of poor performance, and they needed a long process to return to where they are today. But I recall Arteta with Arsenal, he went through a long process. In the end, they managed to transform the team. This situation might be similar for Man United at the moment. So giving time is not wrong if clear progress is visible. Hopefully Man United's management also supports Amorim not just with a contract but of course, the player transfer policy can be key.

There are many problems within the Manchester United squad. And it is not possible to solve so many problems quickly. So if the management thinks that Manchester United's performance is changing positively then they will give Amorim more time and opportunity.

I would say that Manchester United's performance is better than last season. Although we are still seeing irregular performance from them. But even then it is somewhat visible that Manchester United's performance is gradually getting stronger. If the bonding between the players is stronger then we will see stable performance from Manchester United in the future. They have been able to add several talented players to the squad.

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Actually, I still remember Arteta with Arsenal and Chelsea. They both had periods of poor performance, and they needed a long process to return to where they are today.
I don't think arsenal and Chelsea situation should be compared with that of Manchester united because we have seen how Manchester united have made so many changes, am talking of managers, top quality managers but nothing have shown for it, that shows that their primary problem is not the manager, they just have to revolutionize this team and bring in new set's of players, just like what Chelsea did a few years back that they were criticized for, but now they look different and better, so it's wise for Manchester united to follow such path than putting all the blame on any manager that is hired.


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The international break still hasn't ended. There are still possible injury situations. This is why I hesitate making early bets in these times. It is quite risky in my opinion considering that.

But those 1.62 odds for Liverpool win smiles at me.  Grin  I hope it doesn't drop too much in a couple of days. I believe in them to beat Manchester United at Anfield honestly.

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Manchester United doesn’t really understand themselves right now, their performance is bad, and Manchester United are conceding easily in matches. Whenever Manchester United are playing right now, am not always confident in them, because I know even if they are playing against a weaker team, there is no assurance that Manchester United will be winning. I don’t really know what is wrong with United, but with their performance, I know they have internal problem.

Manchester United are facing difficulties this season and with how they are playing he will always be difficult for them to achieve trophies this season. Some are complaining is because of the coach they are performing weak and they sack Erik Ten Hag, and bring Amorim but still they is not a good result still struggling to win matches in the Premier League. Amorim just need to fight after transfer Windows opens again, so that he can get some new players they need to hard some defends and midfielder In the team to make them perform better. They get the chance qnd own there last match against Sunderland they will be in  there best form and challenge Liverpool after the international break is over. Amorim is not in any big competition they are just focusing on the Premier League, and they need to be the best as a big club not playing other competitions they should be in top of the  league but still struggling to win matches.

I don't think arsenal and Chelsea situation should be compared with that of Manchester united because we have seen how Manchester united have made so many changes, am talking of managers, top quality managers but nothing have shown for it, that shows that their primary problem is not the manager, they just have to revolutionize this team and bring in new set's of players, just like what Chelsea did a few years back that they were criticized for, but now they look different and better, so it's wise for Manchester united to follow such path than putting all the blame on any manager that is hired.


Sure, we can't compare the both Arsenal and Chelsea are more better then Manchester United this season, Arsenal are top of the league currently and Chelsea is doing very great too so we should not join Manchester United because they are not in there best form this season and they need to make more changes in the club, if they are ready to fight for top 4 to get the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League next season. If am not mistaken almost two years now Manchester United have not qualify for the ucl. Manchester United many strikers they didn't remember they need buy defenders and that is what happens to Liverpool currently they have all the best strikers but not better defence and making other opponents defeat them easily and that is why Chelsea achieve three point with them at 90+ minute.
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After the international break, the Premier League is back this coming Saturday, with the full fixtures being as follows:



The most exciting match could be Liverpool Vs Man United. Liverpool has suffered 2 league losses in a row, which caused them to lose the top table spot to Arsenal, so they have something to prove to their fans. Man United's performance is always a question mark. They tend to mix decent games with poor ones. Their last league game was a home win over Sunderland, but it's been a long while since United noted 2 wins in a row.
Statistically, a draw seems unlikely, as both teams have demonstrated more of an "all or nothing" approach in the first 7 rounds of the league. Liverpool have zero draws so far and United only have one.

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Actually, I still remember Arteta with Arsenal and Chelsea. They both had periods of poor performance, and they needed a long process to return to where they are today.
I don't think arsenal and Chelsea situation should be compared with that of Manchester united because we have seen how Manchester united have made so many changes, am talking of managers, top quality managers but nothing have shown for it, that shows that their primary problem is not the manager, they just have to revolutionize this team and bring in new set's of players, just like what Chelsea did a few years back that they were criticized for, but now they look different and better, so it's wise for Manchester united to follow such path than putting all the blame on any manager that is hired.


Of course chelsea and arsenal can’t be compared to that of Manchester United right now, We have see how Arsenal have improved so much under Mikel Arteta, though their is no major trophy to show for it yet but they are doing good. Chelsea on the other are also doing good, we saw them bring in a new manager and he his doing well, he brought them back to champions league football, won them the conference league and also the fifa club World Cup.

I think Manchester United need to bring in a new manager afterall, a manager that will help flush the team and bring in new players just like Chelsea and Enzo Maresca did. I still don’t think Manchester United will improve this season, I don’t see any sign of improvement. Well let see how and where they end their season.

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Actually, I still remember Arteta with Arsenal and Chelsea. They both had periods of poor performance, and they needed a long process to return to where they are today.
I don't think arsenal and Chelsea situation should be compared with that of Manchester united because we have seen how Manchester united have made so many changes, am talking of managers, top quality managers but nothing have shown for it, that shows that their primary problem is not the manager, they just have to revolutionize this team and bring in new set's of players, just like what Chelsea did a few years back that they were criticized for, but now they look different and better, so it's wise for Manchester united to follow such path than putting all the blame on any manager that is hired.


you are correct, Manchester United has been changing manager for some seasons now yet there is no improvement in there performance. So it is obvious the fault is not from the manager .Also it will be wrong to compare the issue of Manchester United with that of Arsenal and Chelsea, what they are actually facing right now is there inability to be able to spot what the actual problem is. Until Manchester United is able to figure out what there really problems are and then seek a better solution to it , there won't be any improvement in the team performance.

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I think Manchester United need to bring in a new manager afterall, a manager that will help flush the team and bring in new players just like Chelsea and Enzo Maresca did. I still don’t think Manchester United will improve this season, I don’t see any sign of improvement. Well let see how and where they end their season.
It will be a better action if they can give this coach a little more time, instead of thinking of replacing him already. Amorim is being fixed with his strategy and style of play, but the Premier League will teach him a tough lesson that will force him to become more fluid.
If you say they should bring a new coach to flush out these old players from the club, you have to remember that if the new coach or whosoever that you are suggesting does not have the support of the club's management, he will still have to work with a limited budget and make use of the players he has or he is allowed to bring in. I feel Manchester United supporters need to exercise patience.
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