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If you hire a manager that is a system guy, and you do not have the players for that system, the problem is not at the manager, it's at the team. I mean Amorim played this style all at Sporting, for hundreds of games, and they knew this, why would they think he would change his system in United?
It was clear from day one that he would install his system here, and even on summer they got some players but they spent so much for so little and didn't give him what he needs. The system doesn't work with the players they have and they had to change so much but failed to do so. Just goalkeeper alone is their biggest issue and they did nothing about it. They sent Onana away and got Lemmens or whoever he is, and that's obviously not enough.
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October 09, 2025, 05:49:23 AM |
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At the beginning of the season, I predicted that Manchester United would finish this year in 10th place — five positions higher than last season. It’s still too early to say where the teams will end up in the Premier League, but I don’t really see any big improvement in United’s play. So I think my prediction won’t work out, because the Red Devils will probably finish around 11th–13th place. A little better than last year, but that’s about it.
It's too early to predict which position Manchester United will finish in the Premier League this season, and we all understand that this team has disappointed their fans year after year, who expect for a change to finish in a good place. Manchester United performance will determine where they finish this season, we can't predict the final position right now, but we may have an idea by the second half of the season. I don't have as much trust in this team as I did last season, when Amorim took over, I was confident that Manchester United had hired the proper manager based on his former club's success, but his tactics appear to be different in the Premier League. Many people believe that if Manchester United is able to defeat Liverpool and Tottenham, they would be able to fight for the Premier League title this season.
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October 09, 2025, 05:52:56 AM |
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If you hire a manager that is a system guy, and you do not have the players for that system, the problem is not at the manager, it's at the team. I mean Amorim played this style all at Sporting, for hundreds of games, and they knew this, why would they think he would change his system in United? I understand the point you are trying to make, it's a system that he knows best, and it's what have given him success in the past, but I believe that a good manager should have been able to adapt to the strength of his team.like example; If you observe that this team is very good on the counter attack, the logical thing to do is to set them up for counter attacks, or if you knows that they are an attacking team that knows how to keep the ball very well, you set them up to play in such a system because that's their greatest strength, what am trying to say is that a good manager should be able to evolve and add new things to his coaching pattern, not by constantly doing a thing that is not working and you keep on doing it and be waiting for a miracle to happen, because if result doesn't improve, he might lose his job in the process.
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October 09, 2025, 06:01:35 AM |
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Man United have inconsistent performances, and Amorim's performance is also attracting attention, with some believing his system is flawed, but Amorim insisted that he would never change his stance, even at the risk of being fired. I think the win over Sunderland is just a temporary relief because after the international break, Man United will face last season's EPL champions, and of course, it will be a very tough battle, considering that Liverpool will have the advantage as hosts.
But not without reason, Man United still has a chance to get points because their focus is only on the Premier League, while Liverpool might have their attention a little divided because 3 days after, they have to compete in the Champions League. Apart from that, Man United may have a slight advantage in stamina and fitness because not many of their players played during the international break.
Yes, in fact it is fundamental for these players to always try to be consistent and play. I understand that many players don't manage to play and then lose their form and are unable to be more incisive in important matches, but I think that these will be very fit because they all play. It doesn't matter on either Liverpool have lots of competitions to play or not, the truth is this game is really unpredictable because the both teams are not to be trusted Liverpool has lost form and Manchester United is not consistent in winning so we really don't know who would win the game between their two.
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October 09, 2025, 10:00:28 AM |
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Man United have inconsistent performances, and Amorim's performance is also attracting attention, with some believing his system is flawed, but Amorim insisted that he would never change his stance, even at the risk of being fired. I think the win over Sunderland is just a temporary relief because after the international break, Man United will face last season's EPL champions, and of course, it will be a very tough battle, considering that Liverpool will have the advantage as hosts.
But not without reason, Man United still has a chance to get points because their focus is only on the Premier League, while Liverpool might have their attention a little divided because 3 days after, they have to compete in the Champions League. Apart from that, Man United may have a slight advantage in stamina and fitness because not many of their players played during the international break.
Yes, in fact it is fundamental for these players to always try to be consistent and play. I understand that many players don't manage to play and then lose their form and are unable to be more incisive in important matches, but I think that these will be very fit because they all play. Bro let just forget about Liverpool having some other competitions to play if Liverpool is to win the game they will definitely win at least we do see some teams that actually won everything possible in their league if they should consider the fact that they have more competition to play they would probably be losing the league games just to keep focus on the UEFA Champions League too, so let's leave that one the fact is Liverpool can beat Manchester United or might lose to that same Manchester United because they've not been in good form for the past three games now and Manchester United always find it difficult to win straight two games, so I really can't predict the winner.
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October 09, 2025, 10:12:47 AM |
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If you hire a manager that is a system guy, and you do not have the players for that system, the problem is not at the manager, it's at the team. I mean Amorim played this style all at Sporting, for hundreds of games, and they knew this, why would they think he would change his system in United?
It was clear from day one that he would install his system here, and even on summer they got some players but they spent so much for so little and didn't give him what he needs. The system doesn't work with the players they have and they had to change so much but failed to do so. Just goalkeeper alone is their biggest issue and they did nothing about it. They sent Onana away and got Lemmens or whoever he is, and that's obviously not enough.
Well from my understanding Ruben Amorim is much of a manager rather than a coach so with that he have a much saying in decision makings about the signings of Manchester United players. You said the players doesn’t fit into his system of play, well you may be right but the thing is he was very aware of the squad before accepting the offer to coach Manchester United, he knew about the players that the team have available. Every good manager is know to quickly adapt to any situation, let take maresca as a big example last weekend, he had all his CB out injured in the middle of the game against the current title holders but he was very quick to adapt to the situation by converting 2 of this wing backs to center back and he got all 3 points in This game. For me I won’t be too quick to judge Amorim, I want to him another transfer window which is this summer if he fails to impress me then I will label him an average coach.
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October 09, 2025, 10:22:37 AM |
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Bro let just forget about Liverpool having some other competitions to play if Liverpool is to win the game they will definitely win at least we do see some teams that actually won everything possible in their league if they should consider the fact that they have more competition to play they would probably be losing the league games just to keep focus on the UEFA Champions League too, so let's leave that one the fact is Liverpool can beat Manchester United or might lose to that same Manchester United because they've not been in good form for the past three games now and Manchester United always find it difficult to win straight two games, so I really can't predict the winner.
Does Liverpool's victory or defeat depend on their will? Wow, I would be very happy to support such a team!  Manchester United are not yet in such a bad situation that any team can beat them if they want to. Liverpool will definitely have a better chance of winning this match, they are a relatively strong team and it is their home match. I also believe that this match is easy for Liverpool to win and they should win. But if you try to ignore Manchester United completely then you are wrong, this is a football match, anything can happen here. What you expect is not wrong, but what you say is wrongly presented.
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October 09, 2025, 10:32:34 AM |
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I wonder whether this year will finally be the one in which Arteta makes Arsenal champions or not... For now they are the leader you know after Liverpool lost to Chelsea.  They seem quite deadly in offense and defense both statistically as well. But we have seen examples by Arsenal such as losing their title chance on the final weeks of a season. Honestly I would really like to see them champions. Arteta brought the team to this level from a really poor one. He deserves a Premier League trophy.
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October 09, 2025, 10:36:56 AM |
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Man United have inconsistent performances, and Amorim's performance is also attracting attention, with some believing his system is flawed, but Amorim insisted that he would never change his stance, even at the risk of being fired. I think the win over Sunderland is just a temporary relief because after the international break, Man United will face last season's EPL champions, and of course, it will be a very tough battle, considering that Liverpool will have the advantage as hosts.
But not without reason, Man United still has a chance to get points because their focus is only on the Premier League, while Liverpool might have their attention a little divided because 3 days after, they have to compete in the Champions League. Apart from that, Man United may have a slight advantage in stamina and fitness because not many of their players played during the international break.
Yes, in fact it is fundamental for these players to always try to be consistent and play. I understand that many players don't manage to play and then lose their form and are unable to be more incisive in important matches, but I think that these will be very fit because they all play. Bro let just forget about Liverpool having some other competitions to play if Liverpool is to win the game they will definitely win at least we do see some teams that actually won everything possible in their league if they should consider the fact that they have more competition to play they would probably be losing the league games just to keep focus on the UEFA Champions League too, so let's leave that one the fact is Liverpool can beat Manchester United or might lose to that same Manchester United because they've not been in good form for the past three games now and Manchester United always find it difficult to win straight two games, so I really can't predict the winner. I’m going to tell you this, Liverpool is going to beat Manchester United, if I’m staking my bet I will be staking that bet against Manchester United, because I absolutely don’t see how Manchester United is going to beat Liverpool at Anfield, Liverpool have lost three games in a row, doesn’t mean they are a bad team, it doesn’t mean they aren’t good enough, this games they have lost they have dominated this games in possession and chance’s created, I only think they should be more clinical with their finishing, Mohammed Salah haven’t been very clinical this season, and Isak haven’t find his rhythm after a couple of bad summer off season, but Ektike have been good and Florian Wirtz will soon be opened like a fine wine, Liverpool lost games just with one goal margin, last time I saw Real Madrid beaten very well by Athletico Madrid, and also Barcelona beaten very well by Seville and Liverpool have not been beaten very well like this teams, so it’s definitely not a crisis. They will soon be back, and I’m completely sure Manchester United will have to suffer at Anfield after the international break.
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October 09, 2025, 11:37:03 AM |
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I wonder whether this year will finally be the one in which Arteta makes Arsenal champions or not... For now they are the leader you know after Liverpool lost to Chelsea.  They seem quite deadly in offense and defense both statistically as well. But we have seen examples by Arsenal such as losing their title chance on the final weeks of a season. Honestly I would really like to see them champions. Arteta brought the team to this level from a really poor one. He deserves a Premier League trophy. I keep replying to comments like this, not just because I am an Arsenal, but because I really believe in what Arteta is doing at Arsenal. It would have been the same it was another football club. Arteta has really build the team to be able to win the Premier League and even the champion's league, so I still wonder why people don't believe they can do it. I understand that they have failed in the past, but let's be sincere, they have got a better team with great depth, so let's start believing in this team, because they are really going to do great things this season.
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I wonder whether this year will finally be the one in which Arteta makes Arsenal champions or not... For now they are the leader you know after Liverpool lost to Chelsea.  They seem quite deadly in offense and defense both statistically as well. But we have seen examples by Arsenal such as losing their title chance on the final weeks of a season. Honestly I would really like to see them champions. Arteta brought the team to this level from a really poor one. He deserves a Premier League trophy. I keep replying to comments like this, not just because I am an Arsenal, but because I really believe in what Arteta is doing at Arsenal. It would have been the same it was another football club. Arteta has really build the team to be able to win the Premier League and even the champion's league, so I still wonder why people don't believe they can do it. I understand that they have failed in the past, but let's be sincere, they have got a better team with great depth, so let's start believing in this team, because they are really going to do great things this season. It's undeniable that Arsenal's squad this year is far better than the squads of previous years. I truly believe this year will be much better for Arsenal. It's no coincidence that Arsenal currently leads the Premier League. We're talking about a team that has long resigned itself to second place. With a little more persistence and good signings, why wouldn't they be first? I believe they could finish the season on top of the Premier League table this year.
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October 09, 2025, 01:53:11 PM |
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I wonder whether this year will finally be the one in which Arteta makes Arsenal champions or not... For now they are the leader you know after Liverpool lost to Chelsea.  They seem quite deadly in offense and defense both statistically as well. But we have seen examples by Arsenal such as losing their title chance on the final weeks of a season. Honestly I would really like to see them champions. Arteta brought the team to this level from a really poor one. He deserves a Premier League trophy. I keep replying to comments like this, not just because I am an Arsenal, but because I really believe in what Arteta is doing at Arsenal. It would have been the same it was another football club. Arteta has really build the team to be able to win the Premier League and even the champion's league, so I still wonder why people don't believe they can do it. I understand that they have failed in the past, but let's be sincere, they have got a better team with great depth, so let's start believing in this team, because they are really going to do great things this season. It's undeniable that Arsenal's squad this year is far better than the squads of previous years. I truly believe this year will be much better for Arsenal. It's no coincidence that Arsenal currently leads the Premier League. We're talking about a team that has long resigned itself to second place. With a little more persistence and good signings, why wouldn't they be first? I believe they could finish the season on top of the Premier League table this year. Arteta have escaped being dragged the previous maybe cause Arsenal had good performance and always finished second on the table but this season would be different cause there would be no excuse to why he didn't he the trophy, all the clubs that's supposed to hinder Arsenal are currently underperformed which gives Arsenal more opportunity to maintain their consistency and position on the table. Arsenal fans can't deny that they desperately need a trophy although most of them i know are hiding under the shadows of good performance and finishing 2nd every season but it won't save Arteta this year so he has to do all it takes to win the league this season especially now that his squad has improved better than other seasons.
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October 09, 2025, 02:15:13 PM |
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Arsenal fans can't deny that they desperately need a trophy although most of them i know are hiding under the shadows of good performance and finishing 2nd every season but it won't save Arteta this year so he has to do all it takes to win the league this season especially now that his squad has improved better than other seasons.
Yes, Arsenal fans cannot deny that they need a trophy but after saying this, it may not be possible to immediately turn it into reality, maybe in that context, Arteta may have made the team stronger in depth before the season arrives. Their increased depth in the team proves that they are still consistent in this new season's PL where other clubs are constantly stumbling even the defending champion team is unable to succeed despite relentless efforts. You are right that Arsenal are in second place most of the season which is why most of their good performances are hidden in the shadows but so far in this new season of PL, their attacking tactics are on the right track therefore, their devotion is needed in unity. Last season, the team lacked a quality professional, agile striker but this season they have been able to fill that gap. This team's strides are huge, so my idea if they can focus on working accordingly, winning the league this season is no big deal for the Gunners.
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 Arsenal have moved to the top and are now the favourite for an outright odds to win the Premier League. I think many people don't have much faith in them, because it has been over 20 years since they last reached for the title. Moreover, they have been runner-ups for 3 seasons in a row, which creates an impression that "it's just not meant to be" for them. The bookies disagree as evidenced by the odds. But if I had to bet, I'd probably bet on Man City, just because the odds of x5.00 are of much better value.
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October 09, 2025, 07:40:01 PM |
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Yea, at least Manchester United were able to get a win but a two wins in a row will be very much unlikely, after Liverpool has experience three defeats in a row and now their next game after the break will be at Anfield. They will be fighting to get back to winning ways and I expect United to lose the game or at best savage a tie which will even be difficult looking at the over all team strength against each other.
Don't you think that Liverpool experiencing 3 defeats in a row will give Manchester United the morale to face Liverpool and get a good result from Liverpool at Anfield? When Liverpool lost back to back, i was thinking they were going to bounce back to winning ways against Chelsea because Chelsea were also struggling, but i was surprised how Chelsea gained dominance against Liverpool and beat Liverpool at Stamford Bridge. Liverpool players have a more busy schedule than Manchester United players, and i think it will give Manchester United players enough time to prepare for Liverpool. The fact that i was also among those who thought my team won't defeat Liverpool shows a reason why Manchester United might not be getting all three points at Anfield. Liverpool men are not the kind of team that will want to remain in a losing end even if they are being stressed or facing difficulties. They have a strong winning mentality to bounce back and they know they do need it especially at their home after losing three times in a roll away. They are among the team with a better winning mentality in Epl and this is good to bounce back, looking at their squad depth, notably attacking wise.
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October 09, 2025, 07:50:13 PM |
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It's undeniable that Arsenal's squad this year is far better than the squads of previous years. I truly believe this year will be much better for Arsenal. It's no coincidence that Arsenal currently leads the Premier League. We're talking about a team that has long resigned itself to second place. With a little more persistence and good signings, why wouldn't they be first? I believe they could finish the season on top of the Premier League table this year.
It's just 1 point difference away from Liverpool and they have only played seven matches so far. It's undeniable that their squad has improved greatly but the fear of them having the consistency they need to make a great difference this season is what we can't vouch for yet until the season ends and the have the trophy to their name otherwise I see this progress as a regular appearance they put up every season.
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October 09, 2025, 08:04:13 PM |
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The issue with City currently isn’t about Pep Guardiola in my opinion, for every thing on earth there is a time to grow and a time to die. City have lost lots of top talents that fueled their premier league reign in the last five years, yes they have made new signings but these new signings are not equal to the ones they had in the previous years of their reign so what do you expect. They will need to regroup a squad as good as what they had to make such an impact again.
You made your point in the first line of your statement, that there’s a time for everything, but I do not agree with you on the other point that Manchester City do not have capable players in the team right now but just that there time of reign has passed and no team can reign forever, I kind of think their major problem is that they're currently experiencing their season of low performance. I didn’t mean that the players are not capable but let’s be realistic here that some of the players recently signed do not match the capabilities of players that have left the club. For example, will you match Mateo Kovačić and Philips to Fernandinho or any other attacking midfielder at City currently to KDB? The answer is No, and that is my point.
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October 09, 2025, 08:08:44 PM |
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 Arsenal have moved to the top and are now the favourite for an outright odds to win the Premier League. I think many people don't have much faith in them, because it has been over 20 years since they last reached for the title. Moreover, they have been runner-ups for 3 seasons in a row, which creates an impression that "it's just not meant to be" for them. The bookies disagree as evidenced by the odds. But if I had to bet, I'd probably bet on Man City, just because the odds of x5.00 are of much better value. Recognizing Arsenal as the favorite to win the premier league this season is done with mistake or by political interference because I see nothing to qualify them for such ranking because in all rectifications they have nothing to make that come to reality. They may have been a good team in some aspects with quality players onboard but find it difficult to make that dream come to manifestation in real life because Arsenal don't believe in winning trophies but only in making it to the top four every season. I think review should be done on that predicted teams to win the premier league because I strongly believe there is a mistake in that conclusion.
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October 09, 2025, 08:16:44 PM |
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Crystal Palace had a huge unbeaten run like 19 games. But it was until the Everton game... That goal by Grealish in the stoppage time devastated them. And it was his first goal of the season in the league at the same time.  I can't believe Everton became Palace's nightmare. They played shite football in the first half and it really worried me. The good thing was when Moyes aware of it, and did some subs during the half time. It really made difference in their gameplay. The subs really boost Alcaraz's performance, and happy to see them destroyed palace's 19 games unbeaten record. They forced Palace to remove their 19 games unbeaten from their X account. Palace gets cooked.  I was disappointed in Crystal Palace’s performance. It would have made sense to me if they lost to Liverpool and ended their unbeaten run but not Everton. Well that’s the beauty of the game and this is what makes the English Premier the most competitive league in Europe, it was unfortunate bookies didn’t see this one coming to dodge it lol.
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It doesn't matter on either Liverpool have lots of competitions to play or not, the truth is this game is really unpredictable because the both teams are not to be trusted Liverpool has lost form and Manchester United is not consistent in winning so we really don't know who would win the game between their two.
The match will be kind of interesting, but I don’t think it’s going to be difficult to predict. Liverpool lost their last three matches, and Manchester United performance has not been good, but if you check the way the two teams are playing, then you shouldn’t compare Liverpool performance with Manchester United, Liverpool plays better than Manchester United, and am sure Liverpool will be getting a win in the match. The only position which I know thats weak in Liverpool is their defense, but they have a strong attack. Liverpool defense is weak, but I don’t think Manchester United has attackers that will be able to penetrate Liverpool’s defense, and with the attack which Liverpool are having, I don’t think Manchester United defenders can hold them down.
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