⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Nightwatchmare]

What is happening to Forest is caused by their president Evangelos Marinakis because the sacking of their former coach Nuno Santos for non sporting reasons. When there is a change in the coaching crew of any team it has a direct effect on the way and manner that, the team play Nuno should have been allowed to continue as head coach of forest till the end of the season.

I don’t know why Nottingham forest decide d to sack their formal coach, they struggled in man really tried for Nottingham forest, their performance was good then, I just dont know why the decide to change him, and as we can see Nottingham forest performance is now terrible, am sure they Will be regretting why they sacked their formal coach right now. Nottingham forest were struggling to qualify for the champions league last season, but they couldn’t achieve that, and currently they struggling at the bottom of the table.

Internal problems between Nuno and the club's top brass, especially the owner, have disrupted Nottingham's current situation and performance. According to several recent reports, the relationship between Nuno as coach and the club's management, especially the owner, is strained and seems irreparable, forcing Nuno to leave Nottingham despite the high expectations placed on him given his outstanding performance last season.

Given the circumstances, it is only natural that such a situation would arise. Forcing Nuno and Nottingham to remain together would be extremely difficult, especially in cases of internal conflicts where the coach and players are at odds, as seen in the examples of Cristiano and Sancho at Manchester United. However, when the conflict is between the coach and the club owner, it is inevitable that the coach will be the one to leave.

You're actually right, firing that coach was the greatest mistake of this season at least the could have given him till the end of the season like that dude actually did wonders last season with the Nottingham Forest team I believe has it been he was given enough time he could have transform that team to a more better team but because of one or two bad start for the season they believe he has nothing to offer again then fire him, he could tell the kind of relationship he might have built with the players, now I think the team is not in order and it's really affecting them and they need to do something about it before it's too late.

What just happened to Nottingham Forest is the saying that goes this way: You don't know the value of what you have until you lose it. Nottingham Forest board will be regretting why they even sacked Nuno Espirito Santo because if he was still in charge of Nottingham Forest, Nottingham Forest team would have been doing better by now. Just for the good work Nuno Espirito Santo did in Nottingham Forest last season, despite him not performing the way Nottingham Forest board were expecting him to perform in the start of the Premier League season, they should have given him more time to turn things around in Nottingham Forest because he knows the team better than any coach.

[KTChampions]

It's bad news because Manchester United upcoming match against Liverpool will be tough for Amorim. Although Liverpool has lost their last two Premier League matches, making it possible for United to have an advantage, I'm still unsure about predicting a win. Manchester United inconsistent results have been disappointing, and I'm not confident they'll win this game if I bet on them. Manchester United have played some big matches so far this season, and I don't think they put up a strong fight in those games, as they were defeated by Arsenal and Manchester City. Chelsea was the only strong team they've managed to beat.

I don't see anything bad for United. Liverpool are in crisis and it's better to face them now than later, when they might be in better shape. Nobody expects United to win, so they can play relaxed, but for Liverpool even a draw would be a disaster, so they are under a lot of pressure. Incidentally, bookmakers aren't pricing this game as favorably for Liverpool as one might expect:

1.62 - 4.40 - 4.90

If Liverpool's victory was predetermined, the bookmakers wouldn't be offering a generous 62%, right?

[Lannakosa]

What just happened to Nottingham Forest is the saying that goes this way: You don't know the value of what you have until you lose it. Nottingham Forest board will be regretting why they even sacked Nuno Espirito Santo because if he was still in charge of Nottingham Forest, Nottingham Forest team would have been doing better by now. Just for the good work Nuno Espirito Santo did in Nottingham Forest last season, despite him not performing the way Nottingham Forest board were expecting him to perform in the start of the Premier League season, they should have given him more time to turn things around in Nottingham Forest because he knows the team better than any coach.

I initially said that Nottingham Forest should be grateful to Espiritu for everything they'd achieved, but instead, we saw dissatisfaction among the management, and his mistake was to air this conflict publicly. When I learned that Espiritu was leaving Nottingham, I assumed they would have difficult times because the new manager would change everything. When it became clear who their new manager would be it really surprised me, and perhaps that's why it was a little disappointing, although I think it was already clear what this would lead to.

[martinom]

Man United have inconsistent performances, and Amorim's performance is also attracting attention, with some believing his system is flawed, but Amorim insisted that he would never change his stance, even at the risk of being fired. I think the win over Sunderland is just a temporary relief because after the international break, Man United will face last season's EPL champions, and of course, it will be a very tough battle, considering that Liverpool will have the advantage as hosts.

But not without reason, Man United still has a chance to get points because their focus is only on the Premier League, while Liverpool might have their attention a little divided because 3 days after, they have to compete in the Champions League. Apart from that, Man United may have a slight advantage in stamina and fitness because not many of their players played during the international break.

Yes, in fact it is fundamental for these players to always try to be consistent and play. I understand that many players don't manage to play and then lose their form and are unable to be more incisive in important matches, but I think that these will be very fit because they all play.

[qurbanshah02]

I don't see anything bad for United. Liverpool are in crisis and it's better to face them now than later, when they might be in better shape. Nobody expects United to win, so they can play relaxed, but for Liverpool even a draw would be a disaster, so they are under a lot of pressure. Incidentally, bookmakers aren't pricing this game as favorably for Liverpool as one might expect:

1.62 - 4.40 - 4.90

If Liverpool's victory was predetermined, the bookmakers wouldn't be offering a generous 62%, right?

They cannot compete with a strong and good team like Liverpool at the moment because they have strengthened themselves with a lot of good performance and Manchester United will have to strengthen themselves in many matches. According to their performance at the moment, they will never be able to weaken Liverpool. Doing this can be somewhat easy for Manchester United because when Liverpool tries to score a goal ahead of them, Liverpool's strength can also defeat Manchester United. They are making such a prediction with the hope of a draw with Manchester United and I hope that this match will be successful only because of Liverpool's good performance and I also hope that Manchester United will not be able to draw.

[bitcoin_mining]

I don't see anything bad for United. Liverpool are in crisis and it's better to face them now than later, when they might be in better shape. Nobody expects United to win, so they can play relaxed, but for Liverpool even a draw would be a disaster, so they are under a lot of pressure. Incidentally, bookmakers aren't pricing this game as favorably for Liverpool as one might expect:

1.62 - 4.40 - 4.90

If Liverpool's victory was predetermined, the bookmakers wouldn't be offering a generous 62%, right?

They cannot compete with a strong and good team like Liverpool at the moment because they have strengthened themselves with a lot of good performance and Manchester United will have to strengthen themselves in many matches. According to their performance at the moment, they will never be able to weaken Liverpool. Doing this can be somewhat easy for Manchester United because when Liverpool tries to score a goal ahead of them, Liverpool's strength can also defeat Manchester United. They are making such a prediction with the hope of a draw with Manchester United and I hope that this match will be successful only because of Liverpool's good performance and I also hope that Manchester United will not be able to draw.

In football, nothing can be said for sure, Manchester United has defeated Chelsea in this season of the Premier League, Chelsea has defeated Liverpool again, Manchester United will face Liverpool again in the future, so if Manchester United can play on a good football field, then it will not be impossible for them to defeat Liverpool. I admit that Liverpool will be much ahead of Manchester United in terms of teams, but the performance on the field is the main thing and the form recently. Liverpool has not been able to perform well in the last few matches, although they should have performed well in those matches. If Manchester United performs the same performance against Liverpool as in the last matches, on the contrary, if Manchester United can improve their performance, then Liverpool can be defeated by Manchester United.

[Roseline492]

Chelsea isn't terrible, it's Liverpool that is having trouble. The problem was obvious, they played their best on Palace game, then rested players on Galatasaray game, and then played their best on Chelsea game, and in return they lost all. Liverpool is really doing terrible at the moment and they need to figure out the problem, otherwise they are not going to get the best out of this.

I understand that it may not be a great feeling to keep losing, but there are lessons to learn out of this. And the biggest lesson to learn is that if you want to rotate, even when you are rotating, do not put people at wrong positions. Like there is no reason why Szbo should be right back, and he had a game there for some weird reason.

If we are saying about terrible through the past matches on this season between the two, Chelsea is the most terrible because they have 11 point and Liverpool 15 point so the people with the higher point are greater but the past two match says Chelsea to be on the peaking form while Liverpool is not but Chelsea will have to get above before fully determined the most terrible. As important as champions League they should have added more squad to the original ones instead of not playing all and besides when a season has not mature every coach keeps the idea of reserving players off, so Liverpool did themselves for over planning things.

[Unsoldier]

The Red Devils are currently 6 points away from the leader technically. It means only 2 wins. Not too bad for now but inconsistency is the undeniable truth anyway...

Lol, while it is true that they are not far off the summit, but everyone knows they are not realistically going after the title, neither are they title contenders. You don't go from finishing in the bottom half of the table (15th if i remember correctly) to winning the league. Amorim's target this season would realistically be a top 7 or 8 finish at best, and IMO, we are looking at 5th position down to 8th, because i don't think there is a top 4 chance for Manchester United this season.

At the beginning of the season, I predicted that Manchester United would finish this year in 10th place — five positions higher than last season. It’s still too early to say where the teams will end up in the Premier League, but I don’t really see any big improvement in United’s play. So I think my prediction won’t work out, because the Red Devils will probably finish around 11th–13th place. A little better than last year, but that’s about it.

[Proty]

The Red Devils are currently 6 points away from the leader technically. It means only 2 wins. Not too bad for now but inconsistency is the undeniable truth anyway...

Lol, while it is true that they are not far off the summit, but everyone knows they are not realistically going after the title, neither are they title contenders. You don't go from finishing in the bottom half of the table (15th if i remember correctly) to winning the league. Amorim's target this season would realistically be a top 7 or 8 finish at best, and IMO, we are looking at 5th position down to 8th, because i don't think there is a top 4 chance for Manchester United this season.

At the beginning of the season, I predicted that Manchester United would finish this year in 10th place — five positions higher than last season. It’s still too early to say where the teams will end up in the Premier League, but I don’t really see any big improvement in United’s play. So I think my prediction won’t work out, because the Red Devils will probably finish around 11th–13th place. A little better than last year, but that’s about it.

I think this your prediction is wrong, there is doubt that the team performance isn't good. However, with what I have seen in there last two matches, the match they played against Chelsea and the recent match they played against Sunderland. I think there is a little improvement in the team performance compared to last season. So am thinking they may not pass 10th position. Although is too early as you said for one to conclude yet.

[Volgastallion]

Actual leaderboard is super strange right now, we have a lot of good teams behind other which are a shit one, for example we have Sunderlan in top five until this round, and for sure they are not so good, and for sure they are gonna be out of the top 10 in a few rounds more, Manchester United which is a complete failure is still prett close to european spots.

[red4slash]

Internal problems between Nuno and the club's top brass, especially the owner, have disrupted Nottingham's current situation and performance. According to several recent reports, the relationship between Nuno as coach and the club's management, especially the owner, is strained and seems irreparable, forcing Nuno to leave Nottingham despite the high expectations placed on him given his outstanding performance last season.

Given the circumstances, it is only natural that such a situation would arise. Forcing Nuno and Nottingham to remain together would be extremely difficult, especially in cases of internal conflicts where the coach and players are at odds, as seen in the examples of Cristiano and Sancho at Manchester United. However, when the conflict is between the coach and the club owner, it is inevitable that the coach will be the one to leave.

You're actually right, firing that coach was the greatest mistake of this season at least the could have given him till the end of the season like that dude actually did wonders last season with the Nottingham Forest team I believe has it been he was given enough time he could have transform that team to a more better team but because of one or two bad start for the season they believe he has nothing to offer again then fire him, he could tell the kind of relationship he might have built with the players, now I think the team is not in order and it's really affecting them and they need to do something about it before it's too late.

As I said, it seems impossible to give him more time because Nuno's problem is not his performance but the issues with the club owner, where tensions have been running high since the start of the season, creating an uncomfortable situation for everyone, including the players. Ultimately, the departure of one of the two will be considered the right decision, even if it means sacrificing certain things, such as current performance.

Such a situation should have been avoided from the start because when egos run high during a dispute, it becomes very difficult for them to restrain themselves, including Nuno and the current owner of Nottingham.
If only they had exercised more restraint from the beginning, such a situation might not have occurred, and it is possible that Nottingham's performance would still be well maintained to this day.

[BitBakerr1]

The Red Devils are currently 6 points away from the leader technically. It means only 2 wins. Not too bad for now but inconsistency is the undeniable truth anyway...

Lol, while it is true that they are not far off the summit, but everyone knows they are not realistically going after the title, neither are they title contenders. You don't go from finishing in the bottom half of the table (15th if i remember correctly) to winning the league. Amorim's target this season would realistically be a top 7 or 8 finish at best, and IMO, we are looking at 5th position down to 8th, because i don't think there is a top 4 chance for Manchester United this season.

At the beginning of the season, I predicted that Manchester United would finish this year in 10th place — five positions higher than last season. It’s still too early to say where the teams will end up in the Premier League, but I don’t really see any big improvement in United’s play. So I think my prediction won’t work out, because the Red Devils will probably finish around 11th–13th place. A little better than last year, but that’s about it.

Yes you are correct there is no much improvement in the Manchester United team they are not inform winning their last match in premier League does not make them inform however there's still  time for them to improve, the problem of Manchester United is not the coach it is the players the players are not performing very well they are not in good shame and a disappointment that after the amount spent in buying players they are not performing as expected, the coach has tried his best in making sure that the team perform as expected but they are not doing that the players are just weak they miss opportunities they don't do the right thing at the right time so I will never blame the Manchester United coach for anything.
If the team comes out 13 positions I will not blame the coach for that because the coach will not be the one to play the football the players will be ones to play the coach will just direct I believe if the players are following the instruction of the coach very well they may come out sixth or seventh position in the league.
Well they still have time to do something about themselves they can still change from and improve very well nothing is impossible when it comes to football so they still have chance to rewrite their wrong and perform well this season.

[JeffBrad12]

Actual leaderboard is super strange right now, we have a lot of good teams behind other which are a shit one, for example we have Sunderlan in top five until this round, and for sure they are not so good, and for sure they are gonna be out of the top 10 in a few rounds more, Manchester United which is a complete failure is still prett close to european spots.

Absolutely disagreed with your opinion. You seems underestimating Sunderland just caused by they came from Championship. They're good. They were drawing against Palace. They also beat Nottingham Forest and Brentford. They're a midtable team, and they deserved it.
Don't forget they have spent 141 million in last summer window. So this is the result of their huge spent.

[Floxynice]

Actual leaderboard is super strange right now, we have a lot of good teams behind other which are a shit one, for example we have Sunderlan in top five until this round, and for sure they are not so good, and for sure they are gonna be out of the top 10 in a few rounds more, Manchester United which is a complete failure is still prett close to european spots.

Absolutely disagreed with your opinion. You seems underestimating Sunderland just caused by they came from Championship. They're good. They were drawing against Palace. They also beat Nottingham Forest and Brentford. They're a midtable team, and they deserved it.
Don't forget they have spent 141 million in last summer window. So this is the result of their huge spent.

Sunderland have earned their spot on the table and we cannot say they don't merit it. They have put in alot of efforts and resources since this season started.  However, it is rather too early to celebrate them, let's see whether they will be able to maintain thesame consistency when injuries and fatigue begin to set in after like 20+ matches. For now, we should respect their efforts because they deserve all the respect for being at the top of the table.

[Agbe]

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Yes you are correct there is no much improvement in the Manchester United team they are not inform winning their last match in premier League does not make them inform however there's still  time for them to improve, the problem of Manchester United is not the coach it is the players the players are not performing very well they are not in good shame and a disappointment that after the amount spent in buying players they are not performing as expected, the coach has tried his best in making sure that the team perform as expected but they are not doing that the players are just weak they miss opportunities they don't do the right thing at the right time so I will never blame the Manchester United coach for anything.
If the team comes out 13 positions I will not blame the coach for that because the coach will not be the one to play the football the players will be ones to play the coach will just direct I believe if the players are following the instruction of the coach very well they may come out sixth or seventh position in the league.

You can't only single out party in the current situation which united has found themselves. Because critically analyzing the problem of Manchester United we have to blame both coach parties the coach is the one that, will tell his players what to do and the players can only replicate what they are told to do by the coach. So both the coach and the players are failing in their duty .

[SatoPrincess]

Despite some signings, Arsenal still lacks squad depth. Some of their best players are currently injured, and injuries could occur again after the international break, leaving the squad inadequate.
Last year, injuries hampered Arsenal's rotation, and the quality of their substitutes isn't as good as their main players, which is why they're struggling.
I also agree that it's difficult for Arsenal to maintain their lead, and it could get even tougher later on. Odegaard's return date isn't yet clear. Gabriel Jesus won't be able to return until January.

You certainly have not been watching Arsenal games lately if you feel this way because it is clear that Arsenal’s squad depth has been very good this season. They have good players and backups in all positions of the team. Check out the injury list and see how well they are still playing, if same injuries happened last season they wouldn’t be playing at same level as they are playing this season.

[Issa56]

At the beginning of the season, I predicted that Manchester United would finish this year in 10th place — five positions higher than last season. It’s still too early to say where the teams will end up in the Premier League, but I don’t really see any big improvement in United’s play. So I think my prediction won’t work out, because the Red Devils will probably finish around 11th–13th place. A little better than last year, but that’s about it.

I was thinking their will be improvement in Manchester United perform before the season started, but as we can see there is no much improvement in their performance, Manchester United are still struggling to win matches, the are finding it difficult to win even weaker teams which they are suppose to win easily. With Manchester United current performance, am not expecting anything from them this season, maybe the going to struggle to end the season in a position better than last season, but ending the season in top 5 will just be difficult for Manchester United.

[Berry2d]

You certainly have not been watching Arsenal games lately if you feel this way because it is clear that Arsenal’s squad depth has been very good this season. They have good players and backups in all positions of the team. Check out the injury list and see how well they are still playing, if same injuries happened last season they wouldn’t be playing at same level as they are playing this season.

Know doubt arsenal has one of the best team this season ranging from the goalpost to the attacking line but finds it difficult to prove their supremacy over other teams instead they play without focus and determination to be crowned champions of England premier league. Arsenal's performance now is the same when Arsene Wenger  was arsenal's coach, If only arsenal would be able to utilize what they have they will become one of the best team in the world right now.

[dezoel]

The comparison between Amorim's system and the Man Utd is the central issue. A top manager's job is not just executing his system, but adapting it to the available players. Amorim is criticized precisely because a rigid 3-4-3 with this defensive material exposes massive tactical weaknesses. Sticking to a failing system out of pride is not professionalism; it's stubbornness.

As for the Liverpool vs. Man Utd prediction: Liverpool's two recent losses are minor inconsistencies, while Man Utd's issues are structural and long-term. Ignoring the historical dominance of Liverpool at Anfield in this derby is naive. A draw would be a huge improvement for United, a win is highly unrealistic given the current form and the pressure on their defense.

When you do not have the players for a 3-4-3 system and you still insist on it, then it makes absolutely no sense to keep doing that. I get that you may want to, but that doesn't mean you should. It's clear that we are going to end up with bad results one way or another if they keep using that system.

While we are dealing with this result, it's not going to get that much of a great result. United has sucked all season long, and even last year, so it is not going to end up being great suddenly. Just go back to 4231 like used to, that is something that exists on this team, and you can do that and the team should be doing fine. I do not get why they are not doing that, but it should definitely be something that helps them.

[Nightwatchmare]

Yea, at least Manchester United were able to get a win but a two wins in a row will be very much unlikely, after Liverpool has experience three defeats in a row and now their next game after the break will be at Anfield. They will be fighting to get back to winning ways and I expect United to lose the game or at best savage a tie which will even be difficult looking at the over all team strength against each other.

Don't you think that Liverpool experiencing 3 defeats in a row will give Manchester United the morale to face Liverpool and get a good result from Liverpool at Anfield? When Liverpool lost back to back, i was thinking they were going to bounce back to winning ways against Chelsea because Chelsea were also struggling, but i was surprised how Chelsea gained dominance against Liverpool and beat Liverpool at Stamford Bridge. Liverpool players have a more busy schedule than Manchester United players, and i think it will give Manchester United players enough time to prepare for Liverpool.