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April 25, 2024, 04:53:59 PM
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As of today, I'm super disappointed to confirm that Liverpool is officially off the title race following that 2-0 loss to our merseyside neighbors. To think that it's the same team that Chelsea brutally destroyed a week ago only to lose to them even with some of the finest members in our team. I can't say I blame Klopp but I don't know how a team that was literally high flying with find it extremely difficult to score goals. It happened in the Europa league against Atalanta and then again to Palace in the EPL. I honestly thought anfield was the problem but Liverpool is just shit now.
After losing to Everton, Liverpool's chances of winning the Premier League are very small because they have to depend on the results achieved by Arsenal and Manchester City. Liverpool must win all the remaining matches this season and hope that their two rivals lose several matches. Liverpool will have a tough game against the likes of West Ham m, Tottenham and Aston Villa, while Wolves are not too difficult to beat. Having won once in the last four matches in the Premier League means that Liverpool will experience difficulties when facing three of these four clubs. It will take a miracle for Liverpool to win the EPL trophy this season.

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April 25, 2024, 05:05:48 PM
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Liverpool don't get lucky against Everton at Goodison Park much. The history below tells us a lot about what I'm trying to point out - only 2 wins for Liverpool. However I would have expected Liverpool to find a way to win this crucial match anyway.  Sad


From now on I can see this title race only between Arsenal and Manchester City. I already see Manchester City very close to the title though.  Sad  But I still want to keep my hopes for at least Arsenal to break their title series.
Everton have wasted their chance to stay on the winning path after the defeat to Everton, to be honest I think Everton will be a very easy opponent for Liverpool, yes indeed the game is a derby match that is often full of high intensity but looking at Everton's current performance, of course it is actually not difficult for Liverpool to beat Everton,  But in fact Everton, who two weeks ago was beaten by Chelsea with a big score, was able to rise by beating Nottingham Forest and of course took Liverpool off the winning path after a surprising 2-0 win yesterday, for now I think Liverpool's hopes of rising have begun to disappear especially they are starting to move away from Arsenal with a distance of 3 points.

I think Liverpool's poor performance at the moment is nothing but a snowball effect after their defeat to Atlanta in the Europa League, after the painful defeat to Atalanta, Liverpool seem to have no passion in playing and make them continue to slump like they are today, I think for now Liverpool have been out of the winning path because it looks like it will be difficult for them to catch Arsenal and Manchester City in the remaining games.


Knowing that Liverpool are just 3 points below Arsenal and 1 point above Manchester City is enough to tell you that Liverpool are expected to lose hope in the Premier League this season because they have only 4 games left, and if a team like Everton can win them with 2 to 0 goals in a game, then I don't think we still need to have hope in them because Liverpool's performance is getting weaker than hoping to be increasing.
 
But I don't know if it was their loss against Atalanta that is affecting them up until now because at first I thought they would be the winners of the Europa League this season, but seeing what has been happening to their performance, I think it will be very hard for them to still make it in the Premier League. But anything can still happen because they have only four games left and still those teams are not up to them in performance, but seeing that their performance is getting weaker, I don't think I have hope in Liverpool.

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April 25, 2024, 05:11:41 PM
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As of today, I'm super disappointed to confirm that Liverpool is officially off the title race following that 2-0 loss to our merseyside neighbors. To think that it's the same team that Chelsea brutally destroyed a week ago only to lose to them even with some of the finest members in our team. I can't say I blame Klopp but I don't know how a team that was literally high flying with find it extremely difficult to score goals. It happened in the Europa league against Atalanta and then again to Palace in the EPL. I honestly thought anfield was the problem but Liverpool is just shit now.
After losing to Everton, Liverpool's chances of winning the Premier League are very small because they have to depend on the results achieved by Arsenal and Manchester City.
The chance is almost zero for liverpool. The reds can only hope for the miracle to happen. Arsenal and city must be losing in the upcoming games in order to give the reds another chance to retake the first position again. This is an impossible thing to happen for sure. I consider the fact that arsenal and city may be always using their best squads in order to gather three points from their opponents. It's extremely difficult for all of them to lose in the upcoming games since they are gonna use everything they have in order to complete the mission take the PL trophy this season. The lost against atalanta causes so many problems happened to the club. This is klop's mistake

Liverpool must win all the remaining matches this season and hope that their two rivals lose several matches. Liverpool will have a tough game against the likes of West Ham m, Tottenham and Aston Villa, while Wolves are not too difficult to beat. Having won once in the last four matches in the Premier League means that Liverpool will experience difficulties when facing three of these four clubs. It will take a miracle for Liverpool to win the EPL trophy this season.
Winning all of games will be obviously useless as long as arsenal and manchester city will always be winning the matches too. City is now leading the competition with two matches remaining compared to the liverpool and arsenal.
Arsenal and liverpool are gonna have hard games to come soon. They will struggle to beat their opponents in the upcoming fixtures.

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April 25, 2024, 06:01:13 PM
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Horrible performance from newcastle against palace. No structure showed by newcastle's gameplay, poor performance from the defenders and attackers. There are so many problems owned by newcastle and it's very hard to answer which best solutions to solved all of problems owned by newcastle.



Take a look at the stats above. It's clearly showing how bad newcastle in the last game against palace which has been also signalling that if the club must replace the current coach. Money can't buy you trophies but it can help the club to win as many trophies as possible as long as newcastle recruit the right coach.

Im hoping newcastle will be totally aware about what xabi has done to the leverkusen. He did it by winning a trophy for leverkusen even with very minimum budget. Howe was a garbage coach.

He deserved to be sacked by the club.

I wish the media would push for the sack of Eddie Howe same way they push it for Manchester United and Erik Ten Hag, I don't blame them anyways.
Eddie Howe despite having a disastrous second season is being protected, game after game when they should have parted ways with him already.
Exactly why I don't trust these media's, I'd rather, watch, observe and think for myself.

I don't think they will want to sack him this season, after all of the fundings we will definitely see what he has to offer the club next season without being involved in any of the European Competitions.

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April 25, 2024, 06:14:28 PM
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Man City is playing away against Brighton tonight, the kick-off starts in a little over 1 hour.
On paper it should be an easy one for the City, but I wouldn't be very shocked if Brighton managed to pull a surprise and steal at least a point.
Man City are under big pressure to win and get back to the top of the table, and Brighton can allow themselves to be relaxed as they're sitting comfy in the middle of the table safe above the relegation zone.
In their previous game the City won 2-1 (at home) so not a super-decisive win and Brighton tends to perform much better in front of their own audience so I don't expect this to be a walk in a park.

Liverpool didn't do well yesterday, losing the derby match to Everton, so it looks like it boils down to either Man City or Arsenal.

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April 25, 2024, 06:27:05 PM
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Liverpool don't get lucky against Everton at Goodison Park much. The history below tells us a lot about what I'm trying to point out - only 2 wins for Liverpool. However I would have expected Liverpool to find a way to win this crucial match anyway.  Sad


From now on I can see this title race only between Arsenal and Manchester City. I already see Manchester City very close to the title though.  Sad  But I still want to keep my hopes for at least Arsenal to break their title series.
Everton have wasted their chance to stay on the winning path after the defeat to Everton, to be honest I think Everton will be a very easy opponent for Liverpool, yes indeed the game is a derby match that is often full of high intensity but looking at Everton's current performance, of course it is actually not difficult for Liverpool to beat Everton,  But in fact Everton, who two weeks ago was beaten by Chelsea with a big score, was able to rise by beating Nottingham Forest and of course took Liverpool off the winning path after a surprising 2-0 win yesterday, for now I think Liverpool's hopes of rising have begun to disappear especially they are starting to move away from Arsenal with a distance of 3 points.

I think Liverpool's poor performance at the moment is nothing but a snowball effect after their defeat to Atlanta in the Europa League, after the painful defeat to Atalanta, Liverpool seem to have no passion in playing and make them continue to slump like they are today, I think for now Liverpool have been out of the winning path because it looks like it will be difficult for them to catch Arsenal and Manchester City in the remaining games.


Knowing that Liverpool are just 3 points below Arsenal and 1 point above Manchester City is enough to tell you that Liverpool are expected to lose hope in the Premier League this season because they have only 4 games left, and if a team like Everton can win them with 2 to 0 goals in a game, then I don't think we still need to have hope in them because Liverpool's performance is getting weaker than hoping to be increasing.
 
But I don't know if it was their loss against Atalanta that is affecting them up until now because at first I thought they would be the winners of the Europa League this season, but seeing what has been happening to their performance, I think it will be very hard for them to still make it in the Premier League. But anything can still happen because they have only four games left and still those teams are not up to them in performance, but seeing that their performance is getting weaker, I don't think I have hope in Liverpool.
Four games can still make a difference for Liverpool if only they can win those four games, that is, without drawing any of the games but pure straight wins all through, then they likely may have a chance..
But then again, their chances of returning back to the top of the league also lies in the hands of Arsenal and Manchester city, Manchester city currently have a game tonight against Brighton; which I am believe that they(Manchester city may likely win, if they win the full 3 points, that will earn them 76 points in total and place them in the second place in the epl table, while Liverpool will move to the third place, that would mean that Arsenal is only 1 point ahead of Manchester city, while they 3 points ahead of Liverpool until Liverpool plays their next game, that will determine if Liverpool will return back to their second place by earning a total of 77 points to match with Arsenal.

Anyways, we have indeed gotten to the stage in the epl when things usually becomes very heated, and at this point, it is only the strongest club that usually takes the top sit and remain there, so, the question should be, is Arsenal really qualified and strong enough to maintain their current top position?
Only their performance going forward will tell for sure.

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It is 100% clear that Liverpool will be gone now, we could say that the yare going to end the season third, that is guaranteed at this point. I do not see neither City nor Arsenal losing again, not that much at least, the difference is huge, I think Arsenal would need to lose once and tie once, so that is not going to happen, and not even seeing Liverpool winning every game they have after this as well.

So, all in all I would say that it looks like we are going to end up with anything major, and we should probably consider all the possibilities. I believe that we can make it work one way or another, and we just need to figure out how we could get better with it, that is the most important part of this all and now it is just a race between Arsenal and City.

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Man City is playing away against Brighton tonight, the kick-off starts in a little over 1 hour.
On paper it should be an easy one for the City, but I wouldn't be very shocked if Brighton managed to pull a surprise and steal at least a point.
Man City are under big pressure to win and get back to the top of the table, and Brighton can allow themselves to be relaxed as they're sitting comfy in the middle of the table safe above the relegation zone.
In their previous game the City won 2-1 (at home) so not a super-decisive win and Brighton tends to perform much better in front of their own audience so I don't expect this to be a walk in a park.

Liverpool didn't do well yesterday, losing the derby match to Everton, so it looks like it boils down to either Man City or Arsenal.
Brighton may not be able to deter Manchester City tonight because the later have a lot at stake and will be playing like a wounded lion. Although Brighton does not have a bad record when it comes to playing Manchester City,  I believe the quest for the trophy will override any stats that could support Brighton nursing any ambition in this match.

If Manchester City will be stopped, I don't think it will be tonight and Brighton does not have the mental and physical strengths to dare the seemingly impossible. Direct win for Manchester City have very small odd so a better option for me is over 3.5 which is about 2.15 odds.

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April 25, 2024, 09:52:38 PM
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Everton have wasted their chance to stay on the winning path after the defeat to Everton, to be honest I think Everton will be a very easy opponent for Liverpool, yes indeed the game is a derby match that is often full of high intensity but looking at Everton's current performance, of course it is actually not difficult for Liverpool to beat Everton,  But in fact Everton, who two weeks ago was beaten by Chelsea with a big score, was able to rise by beating Nottingham Forest and of course took Liverpool off the winning path after a surprising 2-0 win yesterday, for now I think Liverpool's hopes of rising have begun to disappear especially they are starting to move away from Arsenal with a distance of 3 points.

I think Liverpool's poor performance at the moment is nothing but a snowball effect after their defeat to Atlanta in the Europa League, after the painful defeat to Atalanta, Liverpool seem to have no passion in playing and make them continue to slump like they are today, I think for now Liverpool have been out of the winning path because it looks like it will be difficult for them to catch Arsenal and Manchester City in the remaining games.

Well surprisingly Everton were able to still maintain the momentum after they got defeated by Chelsea or should I say battered by Chelsea, they were able to build momentum with a win against Nottingham Forest. They came into the match with Liverpool very confident knowing it’s a derby.

 ⁠They had everything to play for and they were able to dominate Liverpool and get the win and you can understand that they were resilient. Where did their strength come from, I think they are really fighting hard to remain in the epl after the whole points deduction they fight to still be in the nations top flight league.

 Liverpool were dumped out of the Europa and since then the general team’s momentum has dropped and now it seems they’ll be ending the season with just one trophy. This is a crazy way to bid farewell to Jurgen Klopp who has given his all for this Liverpool team for a period of over 9 years and this is real crazy.

 ⁠Their attack isn’t clinical and the players up there all look rusty in front of goal and this means much work for whosoever takes over from Jurgen in Summer. He will have some huge job doing in bringing back that firing power to the attack line as now they are looking like a shadow of themselves.

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April 25, 2024, 09:55:52 PM
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Simple destruction by Manchester City... I can't say that I'm surprised with the final score honestly. Arsenal also destroyed Brighton away not long ago. I wasn't expecting Brighton to be the one to hold off Manchester City.

The only team that might stop Manchester City are Tottenham. They are able to get really unpredictable results against Manchester City. Ange Postecoglou isn't doing as good as the beginning of the season but in big games we never know what happens.  Wink

Liverpool are clearly out of the title race now. It is Arsenal or Manchester City. If Manchester City don't stumble against Tottenham too then it is definitely going to be Manchester City making it to the trophy.

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April 25, 2024, 09:59:11 PM
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Liverpool didn't do well yesterday, losing the derby match to Everton, so it looks like it boils down to either Man City or Arsenal.
Now Liverpool's only chance is to do their best and hope that in the last few matches Arsenal and Manchester City have problems but on the other hand this will be difficult to happen because however by looking at the conditions of Arsenal and Manchester City it is clear they are in a great fighting spirit so it will be very difficult for Liverpool to make competition because at the moment they have been thrown for the trophy race.

Some poor match results in the last 5 matches they did made Liverpool have to lose their spirit and made them have to admit that this season their target for the treble must be broken.

This is very unfortunate even though from the beginning of the competition besides the EPL they were also very favourite in the Europa League but because of some mistakes that occurred at this time the EPL slowly disappeared and the Europa League also could not be saved because they had been eliminated from this competition.
The great expectations in Klopp's last season must end in disappointment now that the end of the season is not going well for them.  

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Simple destruction by Manchester City... I can't say that I'm surprised with the final score honestly. Arsenal also destroyed Brighton away not long ago. I wasn't expecting Brighton to be the one to hold off Manchester City.
The match result is fair as expected by other fans, but Arsenal fans expect Brighton to help them to play at least a draw so that they can close the two points gap between them and Manchester City and it doesn’t work this time.

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The only team that might stop Manchester City are Tottenham. They are able to get really unpredictable results against Manchester City. Ange Postecoglou isn't doing as good as the beginning of the season but in big games we never know what happens.  Wink
Tottenham is the only team that can disturb Manchester City, but Tottenham can also be funny and allow Manchester City to lift the trophy instead of Arsenal since they are rivals of all time. One interesting thing that will happen is that, Tottenham wants to play Champions League next season, therefore they will be hungry to win because they also have competition with Aston Villa and Manchester United.

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M.City had a very comfortable win tonight. They beat Brighton & Hove Albion 4-0.
Kevin De Bruyne scored a great goal tonight.
M.City is in the championship race and they show that they want to be champions again this year.
They are currently in the 2nd place in the League, but they have 1 game missing. If they win that game, they will rise to the 1st place.

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As of today, I'm super disappointed to confirm that Liverpool is officially off the title race following that 2-0 loss to our merseyside neighbors. To think that it's the same team that Chelsea brutally destroyed a week ago only to lose to them even with some of the finest members in our team. I can't say I blame Klopp but I don't know how a team that was literally high flying with find it extremely difficult to score goals. It happened in the Europa league against Atalanta and then again to Palace in the EPL. I honestly thought anfield was the problem but Liverpool is just shit now.
After losing to Everton, Liverpool's chances of winning the Premier League are very small because they have to depend on the results achieved by Arsenal and Manchester City. Liverpool must win all the remaining matches this season and hope that their two rivals lose several matches. Liverpool will have a tough game against the likes of West Ham m, Tottenham and Aston Villa, while Wolves are not too difficult to beat. Having won once in the last four matches in the Premier League means that Liverpool will experience difficulties when facing three of these four clubs. It will take a miracle for Liverpool to win the EPL trophy this season.

Seriously, it was a very important match for Liverpool to win, I don’t really know what happened that they didn’t win the game, now their chance of getting the league title is just a little bit and this is because  they still manage to be at 3rd if the league table, if not I would have say they won’t get the title this season again. Although that what will even happen because nobody can tell if they are going to win their remaining matches all, as you just said. Even ghe Wolves that you just underestimated, if I were you I wing do that, because opponents get serious when the season is in this type of stage.

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As long as premier league title race is consign Man City is on stop able they won 4-0 against Brighton this night and they have 76 points while Arsenal have 77 points 1 point different, although Arsenal have already Played 34 match's while Man City only played 33 that's to say that they still have one astanding match to make it 34 for them which I,m very sure that they are going win.

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April 25, 2024, 10:25:02 PM
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As of today, I'm super disappointed to confirm that Liverpool is officially off the title race following that 2-0 loss to our merseyside neighbors. To think that it's the same team that Chelsea brutally destroyed a week ago only to lose to them even with some of the finest members in our team. I can't say I blame Klopp but I don't know how a team that was literally high flying with find it extremely difficult to score goals. It happened in the Europa league against Atalanta and then again to Palace in the EPL. I honestly thought anfield was the problem but Liverpool is just shit now.
After losing to Everton, Liverpool's chances of winning the Premier League are very small because they have to depend on the results achieved by Arsenal and Manchester City. Liverpool must win all the remaining matches this season and hope that their two rivals lose several matches. Liverpool will have a tough game against the likes of West Ham m, Tottenham and Aston Villa, while Wolves are not too difficult to beat. Having won once in the last four matches in the Premier League means that Liverpool will experience difficulties when facing three of these four clubs. It will take a miracle for Liverpool to win the EPL trophy this season.

Sadly, those kind of miracles happen when it's just one other team that is competing for the title. For this season's title race, there's Arsenal and City and both of these teams are looking strong and resilient; almost like none of them will blink again to drop points before the end of the season. Arsenal won strongly, City did same too. It's a very long shot, one that I'm convinced at this point is not going to happen. If Liverpool had managed to win Everton, then, they would've been some probability of it happening. Now, not so much.

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April 25, 2024, 11:36:54 PM
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As long as premier league title race is consign Man City is on stop able they won 4-0 against Brighton this night and they have 76 points while Arsenal have 77 points 1 point different, although Arsenal have already Played 34 match's while Man City only played 33 that's to say that they still have one astanding match to make it 34 for them which I,m very sure that they are going win.
Football predictions seems more difficult compared to your prediction, what do you think about Manchester city and Arsenal fixtures considering their performance and opponent. If talking about the played match and Manchester city having higher hopes winning the title no doubt but you can't just judge using their performance against Brighton cause they're far more better than Brighton so I expected a win likewise Arsenal and Chelsea match, I will judge whenever I see them struggle to win like not the free win especially Arsenal against Chelsea, I don't know what's wrong with Pochettino and the boys but they never played the match like they wanted to win. Watching Manchester city and Arsenal battle, from my opinion Arsenal has equal hope just like Manchester city winning the title but definitely we'll have to watch only one winner
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As long as premier league title race is consign Man City is on stop able they won 4-0 against Brighton this night and they have 76 points while Arsenal have 77 points 1 point different, although Arsenal have already Played 34 match's while Man City only played 33 that's to say that they still have one astanding match to make it 34 for them which I,m very sure that they are going win.
Like the standing in the previous matchday. City was leading two points in front of arsenal. So, as long as city will win all of remaining matches and it will have two points gap to the arsenal till the end of season. As long as city will able to win the remaining games and it will lead two points ahead of arsenal.
City must be winning all of remaining games and PL trophy will on its hand. City will break a new record as a team that can win EPL 4 times in a row.

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April 26, 2024, 02:17:48 AM
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The most surprising thing for me was Kai Havertz scoring two goals. This guy failed in Chelsea, but he obviously had found his place in Arsenal. Maybe Arteta knows how to help his players show their best performance. I've always thought that Havertz is a mediocre and overvalued player.
Kai Havertz is a good player, but I also think that the price that Chelsea and Arsenal paid for this player is quite high. When he was playing at Chelsea, he did not have stable performance, but there were times  he scored decisive goals for Chelsea,one of them was helping Chelsea win the Champion League. Havertz's contribution to Chelsea is not small, so Arsenal noticed and bought this player even though there are always dozens of questions about Havertz's true form and class.

Kai Havertz has weaknesses such as his tendency to lose form for a long time and difficulty returning to form within 1-2 weeks. This is a big challenge for Arteta and Arsenal because they need a strong squad every week to compete fairly with Mancity. However, Kai Havertz has the ability to read tactics well, be creative, and be flexible on the field, and the fact that he can play in many positions could help Arteta have a quality complement to the injured positions.

Kai Havertz is still playing virtual number 9 position at Arsenal, but if Havertz plays in his right position is Second Striker, he will have Saka and Martinelli on the wings to support the attack, along with the flexibility of Jesus above can make Arsenal's playing style more variable and unpredictable.
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April 26, 2024, 07:01:10 AM
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As long as premier league title race is consign Man City is on stop able they won 4-0 against Brighton this night and they have 76 points while Arsenal have 77 points 1 point different, although Arsenal have already Played 34 match's while Man City only played 33 that's to say that they still have one astanding match to make it 34 for them which I,m very sure that they are going win.
Like the standing in the previous matchday. City was leading two points in front of arsenal. So, as long as city will win all of remaining matches and it will have two points gap to the arsenal till the end of season. As long as city will able to win the remaining games and it will lead two points ahead of arsenal.
City must be winning all of remaining games and PL trophy will on its hand. City will break a new record as a team that can win EPL 4 times in a row.
of the remaining matches that Man City has to face, there is no match schedule that means Man City has to lose points and this means that Man City is able to continue to get 3 points from each match.
It's just that there is 1 doubtful match against Spurs, Man City has to play away while Spurs could be an obstacle for Man City to get 3 additional points.
hope of Man City fans when playing against Spurs is that they must really be able to take advantage of the opportunities that exist and must win, or if it doesn't end in a draw, Man City will only get 1 point and make Man City fail to win the EPL title.

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