⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[asriloni]

Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.    Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little? 

From what i've seen that Ten Haag can't handle criticism. That's why he's terrible. No doubt that he never takes any accountability for his club.And watching him speak is so cringe.

How can we expect Manchester United players to be accountable for their performances? when their manager seems allergic to it? That's why they went from title contenders to being told just a top-4 finish and secure a UCL spot is alright. I'm sure Fergie never did it in the past.

So much delusional on Ten Hag. But i do like how he showed a very unrealistic approach in this interview.

[ndutndut]

Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.    Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little? 

From what i've seen that Ten Haag can't handle criticism. That's why he's terrible. No doubt that he never takes any accountability for his club.And watching him speak is so cringe.

How can we expect Manchester United players to be accountable for their performances? when their manager seems allergic to it? That's why they went from title contenders to being told just a top-4 finish and secure a UCL spot is alright. I'm sure Fergie never did it in the past.

So much delusional on Ten Hag. But i do like how he showed a very unrealistic approach in this interview.

Yes, that's right. What makes Man United not develop is because Erik Ten Hag doesn't want to be criticized, he is stubborn, he often doesn't want to accept criticism, even when his team loses he doesn't feel guilty, the blame is on his players. What Ronaldo expressed about his concerns so far, he wants the club that has raised him so far to become a club that develops and advances like the rivals who take turns dominating the Premier League. So with his sharp criticism so that everything changes for the better.

However, if you look further, what is happening to Man United right now is actually very complete, not only the Erik Ten Hag era that doesn't want to be criticized, but Man United's management is also anti-criticism. In the past, Van Gaal criticized that Man United is not a football club, Ibrahimovic also criticized that Man United should move on from the past and Jose Mourinho said that finishing in second place in the final standings at the end of the season was the best thing he had ever done with chaotic behind-the-scenes management.

So now if you want to change to be better, you have to start from within first. For now even if Erik Ten Hag is sacked, I am not sure Man United can change or become better if the current management has not changed.

[len01]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome?

It's hard to predict the possible outcome of this match.

I meant the odds showed small gap between Arsenal and Totenham.



This means draw is also possible to happen.

As you said that one of the best options is just BTTS. We as bettors will not care whether Arsenal will win or end up losing as long as we are not fans of the team. 
My prediction is Arsenal still has a small chance to win, but it all depends on Arteta who should have some strategies to prioritize points rather than losing points. I mean if Arsenal players are struggling to get 3 points, a draw should be better. 2-2 might be a good result.

[Velvet78]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? Do you think the Red Devils will be able to end the losing streak of two games? 

Personally I wouldn't bet on them to win here.    Because they are unreliable, it's that simple. They can't score goals easily and they have conceded 5 goals in 3 games already. Maybe it will take them some more time to start defending much better witht their recent signings. Southampton also had a similar start. Normally I wouldn't bet on under 2.5 goals but maybe just for fun I might give it a try. Because both sides don't seem credible to score goals.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Arsenal against Tottenham is always a tough match. It is hard to predict because both teams take the match very seriously. However, with what happened last season, Arsenal have proven to Tottenham that they are in better form. Even this season, I view Arsenal as a better team than Tottenham. But with recent developments, like Ødegaard facing injury and Rice being unavailable due to a red card, I can't say Arsenal have a better opportunity to win than Tottenham.As I see it, the match could favor either team and might even end in a draw. With Arsenal's solid defensive line, it will be difficult for Tottenham to break through easily. Arsenal might also struggle without Ødegaard, who usually controls the midfield. Let's see what information Arteta has to offer before their match against Tottenham.

It's a fact, although I really see that Arsenal is much better than Tottenham, for me I see Arsenal this season as the PL will always be complicated, on one side is CITY on the other side is Liverpool and they are very complicated teams and I see them with a great potential, even greater, to be honest Arsenal always plays well against the big teams, but I don't know why they lose against some teams that are almost last, it's strange and I don't know what happens when they play against them, they suddenly lose their level in a short time, but then they recover, so there is not that consistency that is sought.

[Palakka]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? Do you think the Red Devils will be able to end the losing streak of two games? 

Personally I wouldn't bet on them to win here.    Because they are unreliable, it's that simple. They can't score goals easily and they have conceded 5 goals in 3 games already. Maybe it will take them some more time to start defending much better witht their recent signings. Southampton also had a similar start. Normally I wouldn't bet on under 2.5 goals but maybe just for fun I might give it a try. Because both sides don't seem credible to score goals.

The schedule for the opening match of the 4th week of the English league is played too early in my country, so it looks like I will miss the match because I am on my way home from work, but even so, I personally am more inclined to judge if the match will end in a draw or even if there was one team that won maybe only by a narrow score considering that both teams were not in good condition at this time, Manchester United were favored only based on the quality from the players they have but not with their current performance, from two consecutive defeats it was very clear that the game Manchester United is very confused so if there are no significant changes made by Ten Hag in the match later, it is very likely that Southampton will be very troublesome for Manchester United in the match, especially since so far we know Southampton as a team that often troubles big teams.

[Adams0001]

Arsenal against Tottenham is always a tough match. It is hard to predict because both teams take the match very seriously. However, with what happened last season, Arsenal have proven to Tottenham that they are in better form. Even this season, I view Arsenal as a better team than Tottenham. But with recent developments, like Ødegaard facing injury and Rice being unavailable due to a red card, I can't say Arsenal have a better opportunity to win than Tottenham.As I see it, the match could favor either team and might even end in a draw. With Arsenal's solid defensive line, it will be difficult for Tottenham to break through easily. Arsenal might also struggle without Ødegaard, who usually controls the midfield. Let's see what information Arteta has to offer before their match against Tottenham.

It's a fact, although I really see that Arsenal is much better than Tottenham, for me I see Arsenal this season as the PL will always be complicated, on one side is CITY on the other side is Liverpool and they are very complicated teams and I see them with a great potential, even greater, to be honest Arsenal always plays well against the big teams, but I don't know why they lose against some teams that are almost last, it's strange and I don't know what happens when they play against them, they suddenly lose their level in a short time, but then they recover, so there is not that consistency that is sought.

You're right. Arsenal are really better than Tottenham for the past two seasons now arsenal usually dominating there matches together with them but both of them just have problems when it comes to winning a trophy they usually fail, and Tottenham and Arsenal they are really what to win the premier league because it is a long time that they achieved the title, and that made Harry Kabe leave the club because he need a trophy before he retired from football because he is already getting old and he will do anything possible to achieve it this season, because Bayern Munich are in good form and they are dominating the Bundesliga already Leverkusen as fail to do unbeaten this season again.

Arteta, one of the best coaches in the Premier League, has won many matches but struggles to win titles. This weekend's game against Tottenham will be tense, but Arsenal are the favorites to win. We can't predict what will happen, but Arteta must win the match if he hopes to win the Premier League. Manchester City has not lose any games and  they continue to win all there matches in the league and believe they will definitely defeat Brentford this weekend, because Manchester City are playing home and I don't think Brentford will get opportunities of drawing against Guadiola tomorrow.

[AprilioMP]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? Do you think the Red Devils will be able to end the losing streak of two games? 

In my opinion, Southampton will get 1 point if winning is hard to get.
The Red Devils might appear different from the previous match but I'm not sure they can get full points even though Southampton also did not perform well in their last few matches.

Personally I wouldn't bet on them to win here.    Because they are unreliable, it's that simple. They can't score goals easily and they have conceded 5 goals in 3 games already. Maybe it will take them some more time to start defending much better witht their recent signings. Southampton also had a similar start. Normally I wouldn't bet on under 2.5 goals but maybe just for fun I might give it a try. Because both sides don't seem credible to score goals.

Under 2.5 is not very convincing. If I may suggest, just take over, don't under this match, considering the two will try to score against each other.
If the winning results, especially have a high level of doubt.

[Pandorak]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.

[Cryptoprincess101]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? Do you think the Red Devils will be able to end the losing streak of two games?  

I have a slim believe that Manchester United may not go three games on losing streak because if they do that their fans will criticize them a lot because it will be a very bad experience that they lose three consecutive matches at this early stage of the league even after they signed players that are supposed to make good impact to the well-being of the team so I strongly believe they won't lose to Southampton instead they may likely share a point in the game but to strongly stake Manchester United to win Southampton is a bit risky. Even if Manchester United get a draw against Southampton it's still don't make any much difference so the only thing that can impress their fans is if they win Southampton tomorrow.

[Pandu Geddon]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.

Which is currently being considered Southampton is currently still slumping. so is United. even some of their players are reportedly still injured. Ten Hag must really pay attention to their defense line if he doesn't want to lose in the match later. maybe his career will really be determined in the next few United matches.

The odds offered are also more profitable for United. but maybe the results won't be that good. I actually think a draw is very likely to happen in this match.

[SatoPrincess]

Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.    Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little? 

Erik Ten Hag has a personal problem with Ronaldo and will not take any criticism however constructive it may be from the United legend. I don’t see this as Ronaldo trash talking the manager who sabotaged him at his club. I see it as Ronaldo trying to save the club. People are hypocritical when it comes to Ronaldo. Everything he said about the club was correct.

EtH saying they are not going to fight to win the league or champions league shows that the management has settled for being a mid table club. Combined with Sir Jim Ratcliffe statements about not putting pressure on ETH to finish top-four confirms that the club has accepted and supports mediocrity from the players and the manager.

[Smack That Ace]

Ten Hags believe that with or without one player, they can do better with the rest of the squad. Ten Hag, in my opinion, underrated Cristiano Ronaldo on his second chance at the club, he believes that Cristiano cannot help them again at the age of 37, and while we cannot expect him to be like Cristiano from years ago, his presence at the club motivates his teammates, and the young players are happy to play on the same team as him. Since Ronaldo terminated his contract and left the club, Manchester United's players have weakened, Rashford and Antony are unable to perform at their best since they are no longer playing on the same team with one of the best players in the world and lack an experienced coach.

This is the only way Ten Hags can improve his squad since Ronaldo left the club. I don't like him as Manchester United coach because an experienced manager cannot allow Ronaldo to leave since his presence will encourage the rest of the players to perform at their best.

Ten Hag should realize that he is wrong. He should also realize that the decision of him forcing Cristiano Ronaldo has hurt the club more than anything. I am pretty sure that he still believes he has not made any mistake by making Cristiano Ronaldo get out of Manchester United.  like every decision he has taken has not been good for Manchester United and I do not understand why  Manchester United is still keeping him as the coach.

Just look at the current situation of Manchester United.  there was a time when they were firing coaches because they were unable to win the English Premier League title.  and now they are keeping the coach who has made every bad decision that he could just because he was able to win the FA Cup. That how visible that all fall of Manchester United is. the worst part is that the Manchester United authority seem to be careless about that. I do not believe people should have any kind of expectation from him anymore.

[SOKO-DEKE]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? Do you think the Red Devils will be able to end the losing streak of two games?  

I have a slim believe that Manchester United may not go three games on losing streak because if they do that their fans will criticize them a lot because it will be a very bad experience that they lose three consecutive matches at this early stage of the league even after they signed players that are supposed to make good impact to the well-being of the team so I strongly believe they won't lose to Southampton instead they may likely share a point in the game but to strongly stake Manchester United to win Southampton is a bit risky. Even if Manchester United get a draw against Southampton it's still don't make any much difference so the only thing that can impress their fans is if they win Southampton tomorrow.

Manchester United is stronger than Southampton, and Manchester United is the favorite to win the game. But let it be known that anything can happen in football, because even Southampton fans will not be happy with their team if they continue to lose games. Let’s see what will happen tomorrow. It is very possible that Manchester United cannot afford to lose or draw the game against Southampton because they are not on the same level of rating.If Ten Hag does not come up with wrong information, Manchester United should find the game easy to win, despite it being Southampton's home game. Sometimes the fault does not always come from the players, but from the coach not doing the right thing at the right time. Ten Hag has been making mistakes, such as not bringing the right players onto the pitch, and even when making substitutions, not doing so at the right time.

[KingsDen]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.

Which is currently being considered Southampton is currently still slumping. so is United. even some of their players are reportedly still injured. Ten Hag must really pay attention to their defense line if he doesn't want to lose in the match later. maybe his career will really be determined in the next few United matches.

The odds offered are also more profitable for United. but maybe the results won't be that good. I actually think a draw is very likely to happen in this match.

If we want to be honest with Manchester United, we should consider that the season has not gone so far yet for we to know how inconsistent a team is performing. Even when Manchester United is in their good form, they have always found it difficult to beat Brighton. Another club that defeated Manchester United is Liverpool, and we all can attest that Liverpool is a good side in the English Premier League. Apart from Brighton and Liverpool, Manchester United has not recorded any other defeat. So, it will not be so correct to classify Manchester United of this season as poor until they prove otherwise.

In the other hand, Southampton is a weak relegation side which might not pose any serious threat to Manchester United. So, betting on Manchester United is not that a big risk.

[Amphenomenon]

It's a fact, although I really see that Arsenal is much better than Tottenham, for me I see Arsenal this season as the PL will always be complicated, on one side is CITY on the other side is Liverpool and they are very complicated teams and I see them with a great potential, even greater,

This, Liverpool might seems as the best team as the season's  just began now but I have lost trust on them especially after their disappointing performance towards last season ending that made them the title favourite, who will do it again, that's taking the Epl title from Manchester City but sadly they failed and Arsenal did better till the season ending though after also having inconsistency issues but bounce back way better to continue in the title race. This is the reason I think Arsenal might just be the team to take the Epl trophy from Manchester City this season.

to be honest Arsenal always plays well against the big teams, but I don't know why they lose against some teams that are almost last, it's strange and I don't know what happens when they play against them, they suddenly lose their level in a short time, but then they recover, so there is not that consistency that is sought.

Ironically Arsenal are Robinhood to be frank but they are not the only ones though most inconsistent clubs in Epl are same notably Chelsea and Manchester United, probably will give their all against big team but meeting smaller teams it will be shocking how did they just got dominated or outclassed by these teams.

Though Arsenal I becoming better from the fact that as seasons goes by they are becoming less inconsistent and way better than Manchester United and Chelsea in terms of consistency, funny even better than Liverpool last season also in terms of consistency

[Pokapoka124]

Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.    Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little? 

Ronaldo only made his observations and opinion known. He is a legend for the club and many other legends of different clubs from time to time make comments and give suggestions concerning the clubs they played for. Rio, Neville, Rooney and others have expressed their displeasure with how United is performing. Ronaldo shouldn’t be criticized for saying that, we all know he is saying the truth. I see Ten Hag slowly moving towards his last days as Manchester United manager because up till now he has not been able to transform United to a better side. They say truth is bitter, I guess that is why he is quick to respond to Ronaldo’s comments.

[Issa56]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? Do you think the Red Devils will be able to end the losing streak of two games? 

The match is going to be a tough and interesting one, because I will say the two teams are weak teams, because we all can see how Manchester United have been performing poorly since last season, and there is no improvement in the teams performance even this current season. Manchester United will find their match against Southampton so difficult, but they should be able to win the match, even if it's not going to be an easy one for them. Manchester United performed poorly in all the matches that they have played this season, they managed to win just one match, so I think they should be able to win or draw against Southampton.

Personally I wouldn't bet on them to win here.    Because they are unreliable, it's that simple.

I will also take the risk by placing a bet on Manchester United to win the match, but I am not so confident that they will be winning the match. Southampton is not a strong club, so Manchester United should be able to secure a win in the match.

[AYOBA]

Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.

Honestly the match between Manchester United and the Southampton will be very interesting match, because very teams will like to win the match especially when they’ve give the Southampton higher chance of winning they will not want anything that will implement them to avoid them; and Manchester United can also put in much effort so that they can able to dominate the entire match.

[Furious 7]

Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.    Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little? 

In fact, if we look further, the criticism for Manchester United actually occurs not only from Cristiano alone and we must also realize that criticism occurs because of someone's dissatisfaction with what he has shown to date.

Indeed,  i wouldnt appear to defend Cristiano for criticizing Manchester United, which in this case he has gone too far and criticizing will only bring up conflicts that have long subsided. But on the other hand in this case Ten Hag must also realize that in the end, Manchester United current performance is still worthy of criticism and he cannot argue with that because Manchester United currently still seems monotonous and even very bad to watch.

What he needs to do is not need to respond to criticism but prove that he can get out of this complicated situation with a good performance but what happens now is that Ten Hag still cannot change his attitude because it still looks the same as in previous seasons.