⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[As-Soon-As]

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

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There is nothing to hope for anymore, Ten Hag has failed to make progress since he came to be Manchester United's coach even though there has been a lot of support and money spent to support Ten Hag to bring in players as he wants but the result is still the same.

Manchester United management just extended his contract at the beginning of last season so there is no other choice for Manchester United management but to wait or give time for Ten Hag this season.
Two defeats that have been suffered from the first 3 matches are not a good thing for the Manchester United team that has a high target this season and even the bad results will have a big impact on the mentality and confidence of the players and even the coach to face the next match.

The club management has given him many opportunities but he could not take advantage of the opportunities well and instead the club's condition is increasingly uncertain there are many controversies between him and many players on the team so that the players feel uncomfortable I think the club will not be able to find good chemistry between the coach and the players and if it continues like this the club will continue to experience difficulties and Man United is getting worse the club should not continue to delay firing the coach, he can no longer be expected.

 ten Haag is always irritable with the players, not friendly with the players. Which is why this season Manchester United team is with very poor performance, because if they perform badly with the players then the players cannot fulfill the proper design. Because it is normal for the players to get upset if the players are shown to be irritable while training. 

All these players have performed very well in the past, so the permanent solution to improve Manchester United's team performance would be to replace Ten Haag. Because day by day the Manchester United team is going towards the bottom of the points table, so it is possible to bring back the strength of the Manchester United team by changing the coach only.

[emrecemsan]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

To tell the truth, I expect Arsenal to be victorious one way or another.    They technically have a bigger scoring potential than Tottenham. However I can't overlook the way Tottenham started as well. Yes, maybe they have less points collected so far but I can't deny their goal productivity. Which is why I think it is quite probable for us to saw goals from both sides. I think Arsenal will win by 2-1 or 3-2.

I hope Arsenal win too. That point loss vs Brighton was a big disappointment.

[Farma]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

To tell the truth, I expect Arsenal to be victorious one way or another.    They technically have a bigger scoring potential than Tottenham. However I can't overlook the way Tottenham started as well. Yes, maybe they have less points collected so far but I can't deny their goal productivity. Which is why I think it is quite probable for us to saw goals from both sides. I think Arsenal will win by 2-1 or 3-2.

I hope Arsenal win too. That point loss vs Brighton was a big disappointment.

This is always a fierce and difficult match, the rivalry between the two teams makes the tension of the match between the two teams always high.
Tottenham will play at home, of course they will be highly motivated to win the match but we can see overall Tottenham have not found their best performance at the beginning of this season, from the 3 matches that have been played they have only been able to win 1 time.
Meanwhile, Arsenal is also currently facing many problems because some of their main players will be absent in the match against Tottenham this weekend so this will make this match difficult for Arsenal.

I also hope Arsenal can win this match but I see this realistically that they always have difficulty when playing at Tottenham's home, especially with all the problems they are facing now, so I think the chances of winning for both teams are still quite the same and there is even a big possibility that the match will end in a draw.

[Alpha Marine]

ten Haag is always irritable with the players, not friendly with the players. Which is why this season Manchester United team is with very poor performance, because if they perform badly with the players then the players cannot fulfill the proper design. Because it is normal for the players to get upset if the players are shown to be irritable while training. 

The biggest problem with Ten Hag is that he doesn't realise that the fault is from him, he still blames the players. Don't get me wrong, the players are not without blame but the main issue has been from the coach and I will keep saying this. Last season some people said Ten Hag was not the problem, that the players were the problem, so I have decided to watch United very well this season. I have watched 2 out of the 3 games they have played in the EPL and I also watched the community shield against Manchester and I am more convinced that Ten Hag is the problem.

Most people don't understand the job of a coach. They feel the job of the coach starts and ends with picking starting lineups and setting formations. It's deeper than just that. When you watch a team you'll immediately know if the coach is doing a good job or not.

I heard Bruno Fernandes the other say Manchester United is not ready to win the premier league. You can't hear a player from Pep's team say that. That's a difference between them. It is the job of the manager to instil confidence in the players and make them believe they can do anything ad that is why Manchester City keeps winning the league. But here you have a player saying they can't win the league after just 3 games. What kind of a mentality is that?

[Palakka]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa?  

To tell the truth, I expect Arsenal to be victorious one way or another.    They technically have a bigger scoring potential than Tottenham. However I can't overlook the way Tottenham started as well. Yes, maybe they have less points collected so far but I can't deny their goal productivity. Which is why I think it is quite probable for us to saw goals from both sides. I think Arsenal will win by 2-1 or 3-2.

I hope Arsenal win too. That point loss vs Brighton was a big disappointment.

The North London derby will be a very interesting match to watch, Arsenal, who will visit their eternal rival, has been confirmed to be in a limping condition after losing several of their current mainstay players, Declan Rice, Merino and also Odegaard has been confirmed absent from the match and the absence of the this three player will clearly be a big loss and threaten Arsenal playing performance in that match later, what is happening with Arsenal now has raised a lot of doubts for us to see them being able to repeat performance like  last season because Arsenal has poor squad depth in the midfield this season, but even so, of course the match still will present a match full of high intensity in the game considering the tight rivalry that has occurred between the two teams so far.

If you look at the head to head of the two teams so far, they are actually quite balanced in achieving victory, so I think that in the match there will still be a winner at the end of the match and it is unlikely that the match will end in a draw, although Arsenal has dominated a bit over tottenham so far, but look at what has happening with Arsenal right now is that Tottenham seems to have a greater chance of winning the match.
My prediction is that Tottenham will win 3-1 over Arsenal in the match because losing Odegaard and Declan Rice will make Arsenal midfield unbalanced in building attacks and also helping the defense.

We can see the who importance of Odegaard and Declan Rice role in Arsenal midfield when they faced Manchester City last season:

[AprilioMP]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

I am more inclined to Arsenal who will get better results in this London derby match. In this match, Arsenal acts as a away team but the opportunity to get better results can be seen from their performance from Week 1 to Week 3.
Even so, the chance of Tottenham not to lose points in this fight exists because playing in front of the public itself is a valuable capital for an injection of enthusiasm to get points and improve ranking in the standings.

[pawel7777]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

That's a bit of a tricky one. Tottenham has been pretty solid and fairly consistent team in the recent years, always ending up in the top half of the table, usually earning a spot in European cups.
Looking at the head-to-head results for the last 10 games, Tottenham won 3 times, drew twice, and lost 5 times. But the past is in the past and the current form is what matters. Now, looking only at the game stats, Tottenham does not look impressive this season, but their last game against Newcastle was a bit unfortunate. They lost 2-1 but were dominating with 66% possession and twice as many shots on goals. They were just out of luck that day. If they were to win that game, they would have the same points as Arsenal.

Given Tottenham's home advantage, I think a draw is quite likely.

[khiholangkang]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

To tell the truth, I expect Arsenal to be victorious one way or another.    They technically have a bigger scoring potential than Tottenham. However I can't overlook the way Tottenham started as well. Yes, maybe they have less points collected so far but I can't deny their goal productivity. Which is why I think it is quite probable for us to saw goals from both sides. I think Arsenal will win by 2-1 or 3-2.

I hope Arsenal win too. That point loss vs Brighton was a big disappointment.

Judging from the state of the team and the potential of victory, Arsenal certainly has the potential to get a victory in this match, Tottenham is not the same as Brighton who is able to compensate for Arsenal, Spur is currently in trouble they are improving themselves as if they are not ready for the arrival of this season before their eyes .

Ange postecoglou must fight hard to make Spurs better but Arteta is not a match at this time, for the results of the goal I think 3-1 or 2-0 defeat for Spurs and victory for Arsenal in his meeting match, let's see how Arteta handles Tottenham.

[SOKO-DEKE]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

I am more inclined to Arsenal who will get better results in this London derby match. In this match, Arsenal acts as a away team but the opportunity to get better results can be seen from their performance from Week 1 to Week 3.
Even so, the chance of Tottenham not to lose points in this fight exists because playing in front of the public itself is a valuable capital for an injection of enthusiasm to get points and improve ranking in the standings.

Arsenal against Tottenham is always a tough match. It is hard to predict because both teams take the match very seriously. However, with what happened last season, Arsenal have proven to Tottenham that they are in better form. Even this season, I view Arsenal as a better team than Tottenham. But with recent developments, like Ødegaard facing injury and Rice being unavailable due to a red card, I can't say Arsenal have a better opportunity to win than Tottenham.As I see it, the match could favor either team and might even end in a draw. With Arsenal's solid defensive line, it will be difficult for Tottenham to break through easily. Arsenal might also struggle without Ødegaard, who usually controls the midfield. Let's see what information Arteta has to offer before their match against Tottenham.

[SatoPrincess]

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

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I heard the opposite:

Erik ten Hag is not under pressure to guide Manchester United to a top-four finish next season, with Sir Jim Ratcliffe prioritising considerable progression of the team as the man in charge of football operations at United aims to establish sustained excellence there.

I think Manchester United are ready to take their chances with Erik Ten Hag. ETH, who was appointed manager of Manchester United back in 2022 has only managed to obtain the same level previous managers had achieved. The Glazers are very lenient with ETH than any of their other managers. What pains me is that ETH believes he’s doing amazing work at Manchester United. He’s got the club to believe in him and trust his “process, I for one has seen all that ETH can offer and I don’t believe he is the money that can propel Manchester United to the top of the league.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.    Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little? 

[Ndabagi01]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

To tell the truth, I expect Arsenal to be victorious one way or another.    They technically have a bigger scoring potential than Tottenham. However I can't overlook the way Tottenham started as well. Yes, maybe they have less points collected so far but I can't deny their goal productivity. Which is why I think it is quite probable for us to saw goals from both sides. I think Arsenal will win by 2-1 or 3-2.

I hope Arsenal win too. That point loss vs Brighton was a big disappointment.

Just like Arsenal lost points to Brighton,it  is the same way Tottenham also lost to Newcastle in their last match. The match is goin to be a fierce one because both teams will be playing at their best and will want to take advantage of every opportunity that comes in this match. Both team have this goal scoring capability, so I don’t expect few goals in this match but more than at least three goals.

Arsenal are above them in the league table after three matches but the gap and what differentiates them from one another is not that large and I expect them to be a strong contender on each other in this match. Let’s say, survival of the fittest. The league may have just started, but this early stages in the league are the best time for teams to accumulate as much point as they can especially when playing with big teams.

[ShowOff]

Are any of you considering betting on the four matches below this weekend?
In my opinion there are at least 4 matches that are quite easy to predict as to who will win, here is the list:

Southamton vs Manchester United
Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester City vs Brentford
Brighton vs Ipswich

Those are at least 4 matches that we have a good chance of winning if we bet. The Fulham vs West Ham and Crystal Palace vs Leicester matches are a bit difficult to predict considering that the four teams were both not good in the first 3 matches this season.

[Issa56]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

The match is going to be an interesting and tough one, the two teams won’t want to lose, but from the squad depth of the two clubs, then I will say Arsenal is having a stronger squad, and they should be able to win the match. Arsenal's performance has dropped a little bit this season, they played draw against Brighton, which most people never expected. I just hope Tottenham will not surprise everyone in the match, but it’s going to be difficult for Tottenham to win Arsenal in the match, so my prediction is Arsenal to win.

I hope Arsenal win too. That point loss vs Brighton was a big disappointment.

It’s a disappointment and a surprise because no one expected a club like Brighton to draw Arsenal, the season is just starting, and Arsenal are not supposed to be losing points unnecessarily, their bloods are still fresh.

[Akbarkoe]

Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.    Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little? 

In fact, Manchester United has indeed experienced a gradual decline from season to season, what Ronaldo said is also not wrong because it is his opinion and thoughts, it just might sound like being cursed by a very extraordinary player in the world of football and he has disappointed. lol

If Ten Hag understands Ronaldo's playing style very well, Ronaldo in his second chance will definitely give much better, like how Zinédine Zidane treated Ronaldo and brought Real Madrid to the top with him.

[SmartCharpa]

In fact, Manchester United has indeed experienced a gradual decline from season to season, what Ronaldo said is also not wrong because it is his opinion and thoughts, it just might sound like being cursed by a very extraordinary player in the world of football and he has disappointed. lol

If Ten Hag understands Ronaldo's playing style very well, Ronaldo in his second chance will definitely give much better, like how Zinédine Zidane treated Ronaldo and brought Real Madrid to the top with him.

Ten Hags believe that with or without one player, they can do better with the rest of the squad. Ten Hag, in my opinion, underrated Cristiano Ronaldo on his second chance at the club, he believes that Cristiano cannot help them again at the age of 37, and while we cannot expect him to be like Cristiano from years ago, his presence at the club motivates his teammates, and the young players are happy to play on the same team as him. Since Ronaldo terminated his contract and left the club, Manchester United's players have weakened, Rashford and Antony are unable to perform at their best since they are no longer playing on the same team with one of the best players in the world and lack an experienced coach.

This is the only way Ten Hags can improve his squad since Ronaldo left the club. I don't like him as Manchester United coach because an experienced manager cannot allow Ronaldo to leave since his presence will encourage the rest of the players to perform at their best.

[shinratensei_]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome?

It's hard to predict the possible outcome of this match.

I meant the odds showed small gap between Arsenal and Totenham.



This means draw is also possible to happen.

Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

I think Totenham will give Arsenal a fierce battle, and 1 point. It's an away game for Arsenal, and they are gonna play without some important midfielders. They're gonna miss Rice, Merino, and Odegaard. It's gonna make them face trouble beating Tottenham.

To tell the truth, I expect Arsenal to be victorious one way or another.    They technically have a bigger scoring potential than Tottenham. However I can't overlook the way Tottenham started as well. Yes, maybe they have less points collected so far but I can't deny their goal productivity. Which is why I think it is quite probable for us to saw goals from both sides. I think Arsenal will win by 2-1 or 3-2.

I hope Arsenal win too. That point loss vs Brighton was a big disappointment.

BTTS most likely to happen, but Arsenal has small probability to win the game. Though they're superior enough in term of squad, but missing so many key players gonna distract them a lot.

[kro55]

There is a Tottenham v Arsenal match to be played soon. What do you think about the possible outcome? Do you think Tottenham will give them an upset or vice versa? 

The match is going to be an interesting and tough one, the two teams won’t want to lose, but from the squad depth of the two clubs, then I will say Arsenal is having a stronger squad, and they should be able to win the match. Arsenal's performance has dropped a little bit this season, they played draw against Brighton, which most people never expected. I just hope Tottenham will not surprise everyone in the match, but it’s going to be difficult for Tottenham to win Arsenal in the match, so my prediction is Arsenal to win.

In the first two matches we saw better performances from Arsenal. And we thought Arsenal got stronger this season. We saw the weakness of their attacking players last season. I thought the team was able to overcome this weakness in this season as well. But in the match against Brighton we once again saw the poor performance of Arsenal players as usual. Arsenal's overall gameplay in this match was slow and poor. And I would say that Arsenal will not dominate the Premier League if this kind of gameplay doesn't improve.

Arsenal's opponent in the next match is Tottenham. Beating Tottenham will not be a difficult task for Arsenal. Because this season, Tottenham's situation is also very shaky. Tottenham lost against Newcastle in the last match. So if Arsenal's performance is somewhat stable, they will be able to get 3 points from this match.

[Litzki1990]

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Sheikh Mansour as the owner of Manchester City has started to make preparations and is ready to do anything to keep Pep Guardiola at the Etihad Stadium longer. Pep Guardiola's contract only runs until June 2025, the club's top brass are not ready to lose the coach who has successfully presented the first UCL trophy for Manchester City.

Guardiola has served Manchester City for eight seasons, he managed to make Manchester City dominate the EPL and managed to win the EPL trophy in four consecutive seasons. Other prestigious trophies were also successfully presented, including the first UCL trophy won two seasons ago. It is understandable that Sheikh Mansour is very afraid of losing Guardiola because he always has a way of making his team one step ahead of its rivals, but if Guardiola decides to look for a new challenge in another League or manage a national team, Arsenal chance to win the EPL trophy will be even greater.

Manchester City is a rich team that has strong finances compared to other teams in the English league, with strong financial support, of course Manchester City has had no difficulty in bringing in great players so far, but without the support of a great coach, of course Manchester City fate will also be Maybe it won't be different with Manchester United, so that's why Sheikh Mansour immediately stepped in to ensure that Manchester City won't lose Guardiola at the end of the season, So far Guardiola has had a very big role in making Manchester City become the most successful team, so Sheikh Mansour is trying to keep Guardiola in any way at this time, the situation that is happening with Guardiola quite difficult for Manchester City because Guardiola contract will end in June 2025 and it seems that Guardiola still doesn't want to extend his contract, especially after he issued a statement that he was already at Manchester City. for 8 years and he is unlikely to be 8 more years at Manchester City and he also said that he is more inclined to leave than stay.

Manchester City is a great team in English Premier League especially in recent few seasons they are able to show good performance be it Premier League or Champions League or any other tournament. The most important thing is that this team has a quality manager who always takes the right decisions for the team. PSG is the best proof that a team's performance is not good only with financial support. At one time in PSG, Mbappé, Neymar, Messi and other world-class star players played together, but PSG could not do well, rather the condition of their dressing room has deteriorated. But there is no chance of anything like that happening in Manchester United because Pep Guardiwal is doing very well in this team. As long as this manager is in Manchester City, Manchester City will be in good condition but if this manager leaves the club, then there is no telling how the performance of the club will be.

[tusandii]

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

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I heard the opposite:

Erik ten Hag is not under pressure to guide Manchester United to a top-four finish next season, with Sir Jim Ratcliffe prioritising considerable progression of the team as the man in charge of football operations at United aims to establish sustained excellence there.

I think Manchester United are ready to take their chances with Erik Ten Hag. ETH, who was appointed manager of Manchester United back in 2022 has only managed to obtain the same level previous managers had achieved. The Glazers are very lenient with ETH than any of their other managers. What pains me is that ETH believes he’s doing amazing work at Manchester United. He’s got the club to believe in him and trust his “process, I for one has seen all that ETH can offer and I don’t believe he is the money that can propel Manchester United to the top of the league.

Lol it is very unfortunate when a club as big as Manchester United has to obey a manager like Erik Ten Hag, let alone trusting his slow process, even though with almost 3 seasons, Erik Ten Hag should have been able to provide better improvements but as far as I can see Man United's performance is still the same and tends to decrease, the amount of money to recruit players also does not help the club at all. If the club is willing to accept all the risks, they must also be prepared if they end up finishing in the middle of the table on par with average clubs, even now Man United does not look like a top club because its quality is decreasing.