⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[tusandii]

Ten Hag needs to put in more effort to bring out the best in his players because he has quality players too and they should be able to perform better than this.

So far, it has not been seen, they have not been able to play stably. Ten Hag should have probably had to leave. Maybe currently there are those who think that Man United is going through a transition period, but there is no development.

Currently on the International break, this weekend Man United will play Southampton. They were going to St. Mary. Southampton is not a good team either, as they are currently in the relegation zone. They should be able to get 3 points or at least a draw.

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

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[Farma]

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

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There is nothing to hope for anymore, Ten Hag has failed to make progress since he came to be Manchester United's coach even though there has been a lot of support and money spent to support Ten Hag to bring in players as he wants but the result is still the same.

Manchester United management just extended his contract at the beginning of last season so there is no other choice for Manchester United management but to wait or give time for Ten Hag this season.
Two defeats that have been suffered from the first 3 matches are not a good thing for the Manchester United team that has a high target this season and even the bad results will have a big impact on the mentality and confidence of the players and even the coach to face the next match.

[HajiBagi]

Ten Hag needs to put in more effort to bring out the best in his players because he has quality players too and they should be able to perform better than this.

So far, it has not been seen, they have not been able to play stably. Ten Hag should have probably had to leave. Maybe currently there are those who think that Man United is going through a transition period, but there is no development.

Currently on the International break, this weekend Man United will play Southampton. They were going to St. Mary. Southampton is not a good team either, as they are currently in the relegation zone. They should be able to get 3 points or at least a draw.

Manchester United should be able to win the game because Southampton is not a strong team but it depends on how they play very well in the game because we all know Manchester United's coach is not that coach that knows how to coach a team to win a game, Manchester united coach is not a good coach for Manchester united and keeping him in that team will keep making things worst for the team, Erik ten Hag may have a better season in some team's but for me I don't think he can control Manchester united.

Manchester United has a game on the weekend and let's observe the game very well and see the kind of formation and the players Erik Ten Hag will use in the game, many coaches will make mistakes and will want to correct but Erik Ten Hag will still repeat them the same thing in the next game and that is one of the things that used to affect Manchester united and that kind of coach doesn't deserve to be Manchester United coach.

[Litzki1990]

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

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There is nothing to hope for anymore, Ten Hag has failed to make progress since he came to be Manchester United's coach even though there has been a lot of support and money spent to support Ten Hag to bring in players as he wants but the result is still the same.

Manchester United management just extended his contract at the beginning of last season so there is no other choice for Manchester United management but to wait or give time for Ten Hag this season.
Two defeats that have been suffered from the first 3 matches are not a good thing for the Manchester United team that has a high target this season and even the bad results will have a big impact on the mentality and confidence of the players and even the coach to face the next match.

Ten Hag has been doing poorly for Manchester United and the team under him has been underperforming regularly yet the management can't drop this manager now as his contract has been extended for one more season after his contract expired. This manager has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time but there were zero team achievements under him, but Manchester United should have terminated his contract and appointed a new manager.  Manchester United are too late to catch up. Manchester United may have to finish another season at the bottom of the points table. But they should plan for the next season by accepting that the team performance will be poor this season and they should find the manager who will perform well and discuss with him in advance.

[Palakka]

So far, it has not been seen, they have not been able to play stably. Ten Hag should have probably had to leave. Maybe currently there are those who think that Man United is going through a transition period, but there is no development.

Currently on the International break, this weekend Man United will play Southampton. They were going to St. Mary. Southampton is not a good team either, as they are currently in the relegation zone. They should be able to get 3 points or at least a draw.

Ten Hag has spent two seasons of his career with Manchester United and now he has entered his third season there, there is no longer a transition period for a coach who has handled the team in his third season, especially since the management has spent a lot of money to facilitate him to bring in quality players. The sacking must be done immediately before it is too late, two defeats in three games indicate that Ten Hag is incompetent to handle Manchester United.

Ten Hag must target a win at Southampton to boost the players' confidence, the opponents they face after the international break are very weak, three points must be brought home to improve their position in the standings.

The transition period for a team is unlikely to take place more than half a season, so I think it is too much if we consider what is happening to Manchester United now as a transition period for ten hag, if we look at what happened to Manchester United in 2 seasons Ten Hag previous coaching, of course we can say that their performance was very bad after spending a lot of money, so the only way that might work to improve Manchester United performance seems to be to fire Ten Hag at this time and change with other coach, Manchester United seems to have to act firmly on Ten Hag so that by So maybe there will be an improvement in their current performance, even Ronaldo also said if Ten Hag should must listened to what Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Rio Ferdinand and Scholes had to say because they really know more about Manchester United so far, but I think So far Ten Hag still adheres to all the absolute decisions he made while coaching.

The match against Southampton at the weekend should be an easy match for Manchester United, considering that Southampton is currently in a bad condition after consecutive defeats, but we also cannot guarantee that Manchester United will win easily in this match, because the strategy often implemented by Ten Hag in a match actually became a Boomerang which destroyed themselves like when they faced Brighton in previously match.

[hahay]

Obviously my choice of placing Manchester United in top 4 is controversial, considering their present performance. But I did consider some things which includes;
1. Manchester United has a better squad compared to last year;
2. Manchester United management might fire Erik Ten Hang in the next few matches if he remains poor. If this happens and a new coach is employed, Manchester United will make top 4. Otherwise, there is no way they will be there with their current coach.

Picking the first ten clubs in the Premier League Competition shouldn't be based on just the recent performance ( which I see a whole lotta people doing ) but should be long term. Manchester United has did good business when it comes to the defense. With consistency Erik Ten Hag with fill up the potholes. They have one of the best depth in defense unlike last season with too many Injuries. Glad to also see Luke Shaw and Tyrell Malacia joining in soon. There's nothing control.V about placing them there they would be third place at the end of the campaign next season. I won't say they have a better squad but this one would be consistent.

I don't see them sacking Erik Ten Hag. Manchester United fans are just too impatient. Prior to the new season, Erik Ten Hag told the press how the sqaud is not ready. And don't forget, you want change and growth, then you have to give the manager time yes this might be his third season in charge but emphasis on the time. They'll deff start winning soon ( Southampton ) hopefully Garnacho and Amad are the flankers.

I am still surprised, because many people still think that  Manchester United has good squad depth and also, about Manchester United's defense line, many people still say that Manchester United has a good or better defense line compared to last season. Because inf act, Manchester United is still bad because sofar Manchester United has conceded five goals,and I think that is a bad defense line because the season has just started.

Thus, ofcourse Manchester United still has to improve the quality of their squad depth and also their defense line which is still very weak. So, there is nothing to be proud of with the  results that Manchester United has had so far, because they are still  bad.

[pawel7777]

The match against Southampton at the weekend should be an easy match for Manchester United, considering that Southampton is currently in a bad condition after consecutive defeats, but we also cannot guarantee that Manchester United will win easily in this match, because the strategy often implemented by Ten Hag in a match actually became a Boomerang which destroyed themselves like when they faced Brighton in previously match.

Southampton has 3 consecutive league losses, but Man United has two, and they're playing in Southampton. So looking only at the current season stats, it's not clear if it will be an easy one for Man United.
I expect Southampton will focus on defence, knowing how desperate Man Utd will be for a win, and then will be looking for quick counter attacks and I wouldn't be much surprised if they manage to get 3 points.
Ten Hag's team demonstrated last season that their attacking power is very poor for a club aspiring to be at the top. This season is even worse with only two goals scored in 3 games. Luckily Southampton is even worse, with 1 goal scored, so maybe a goalless draw would be a good bet?

[ndutndut]

Southampton has 3 consecutive league losses, but Man United has two, and they're playing in Southampton. So looking only at the current season stats, it's not clear if it will be an easy one for Man United.
I expect Southampton will focus on defence, knowing how desperate Man Utd will be for a win, and then will be looking for quick counter attacks and I wouldn't be much surprised if they manage to get 3 points.
Ten Hag's team demonstrated last season that their attacking power is very poor for a club aspiring to be at the top. This season is even worse with only two goals scored in 3 games. Luckily Southampton is even worse, with 1 goal scored, so maybe a goalless draw would be a good bet?

In the fourth week of the EPL league, this is one of the interesting matches for us to look forward to, how could it not be because the Southampton vs Man United match is a match that could affect Ten Hag's career with Man United after they experienced consecutive defeats that made Erik Ten Hag in the shadow of dismissal if he failed to get 3 points in this match.

The two consecutive defeats are very difficult for many fans to accept, especially since Ten Hag is supported by a number of top recruits this summer. If Man United can't win this match, I wouldn't be surprised if Ten Hag was immediately fired.

However, what is certain is that this match puts Ten Hag under great pressure, especially since in the last three matches they have played poorly and there are no signs that Ten Hag will improve the team because the decision to select players and when replacing players always makes mistakes. To be honest, even though statistically Man United is superior in this match, I don't dare bet on Man United to win. I predict this match will end in a draw or even Man United will lose.

[Docnaster]

The match against Southampton at the weekend should be an easy match for Manchester United, considering that Southampton is currently in a bad condition after consecutive defeats, but we also cannot guarantee that Manchester United will win easily in this match, because the strategy often implemented by Ten Hag in a match actually became a Boomerang which destroyed themselves like when they faced Brighton in previously match.

The first three lines of your post was beginning to make me doubt your football knowledge but when I read to the last three, I came to realize you're very much aware of how unpredictable Manchester United is since Erik ten Hag became the manager of the English Premier League club. Southampton will play that game against Manchester United at the Saint Mary's stadium which is their home and fortress so I expect them to put in their best in that game in other to get a good result.

That being said, Manchester United like I earlier said is very unpredictable which is why I can't totally write them off in getting all three points from that game. If the Red Devils can be at their best with the quality and world class players at their disposal, I think they can as well have an easy day at the office in that game

[aylabadia05]

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Ten Hag has been doing poorly for Manchester United and the team under him has been underperforming regularly yet the management can't drop this manager now as his contract has been extended for one more season after his contract expired. This manager has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time but there were zero team achievements under him, but Manchester United should have terminated his contract and appointed a new manager.  Manchester United are too late to catch up. Manchester United may have to finish another season at the bottom of the points table. But they should plan for the next season by accepting that the team performance will be poor this season and they should find the manager who will perform well and discuss with him in advance.

Manchester United can always fire any coach even if he has a contract, it's just that the club has to bear a lot of compensation for Ten Hag who was fired midway. Many teams do this, not only Manchester United, but I tend to believe Ten Hag will be kept until the end of the season.

Despite Manchester United's poor performance in charge, he doesn't seem to have many choices. Many players he wanted to recruit failed to bring in, including De Jong, previously from Barcelona. Ten Hag basically needs a lot of fresh players who can be relied on in defense, midfield and attack, while Manchester United is having difficulty reaching an agreement with the player's agent or club.

[Velvet78]

I am still surprised, because many people still think that  Manchester United has good squad depth and also, about Manchester United's defense line, many people still say that Manchester United has a good or better defense line compared to last season. Because inf act, Manchester United is still bad because sofar Manchester United has conceded five goals,and I think that is a bad defense line because the season has just started.

Thus, ofcourse Manchester United still has to improve the quality of their squad depth and also their defense line which is still very weak. So, there is nothing to be proud of with the  results that Manchester United has had so far, because they are still  bad.

Manchester United doesn't have any squad depth. I find even their main squad not strong enough honestly. I mean the defense and midfield got better after the recent transfers. But there is still a question mark in the attacking line... 

Hojlund is still injured. Zirkzee has just arrived and for now we don't know how good he will perform in the long run. Rashford is terrible but still preferred by Erik ten Hag on the left wing. Just why man? 

Garnacho should be playing there. He is a right-footed LW. I believe he has a bigger talent than Rashford at the same time. Diallo can stay on the right wing. Zirkzee should be at the centre.

[bitgolden]

So far, it has not been seen, they have not been able to play stably. Ten Hag should have probably had to leave. Maybe currently there are those who think that Man United is going through a transition period, but there is no development.

Currently on the International break, this weekend Man United will play Southampton. They were going to St. Mary. Southampton is not a good team either, as they are currently in the relegation zone. They should be able to get 3 points or at least a draw.

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

And yet he is still not fired, which goes to show you what kind of management exists in Manchester United as well. I have to say that it's really a shame that he is still managing the team and he should have been fired long time ago, he is not and that's a bad thing.

ETH is not a good manager, not at the level of Manchester United and he should have been fired already. The squad itself is not that great neither, I do not put the whole blame to ETH, but you cannot fire every player right away, it takes time to sell some of them and get others, but meanwhile you could just sack ETH and get someone better, and after they get some better manager they can slowly change the team as well.

We will not see Manchester united do fine for a while longer, it will take a while and they are going to be forced to do much worse for a while before they get some result. I think at least two more seasons, this season and next season. This season because they will either fire ETH and get someone interim, or they won2t fire him until the summer, and next season because first year of a new manager is rarely ever a championship, so it is going to be hard. So at least two seasons, maybe even more until they get better.

[Litzki1990]

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Ten Hag has been doing poorly for Manchester United and the team under him has been underperforming regularly yet the management can't drop this manager now as his contract has been extended for one more season after his contract expired. This manager has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time but there were zero team achievements under him, but Manchester United should have terminated his contract and appointed a new manager.  Manchester United are too late to catch up. Manchester United may have to finish another season at the bottom of the points table. But they should plan for the next season by accepting that the team performance will be poor this season and they should find the manager who will perform well and discuss with him in advance.

Manchester United can always fire any coach even if he has a contract, it's just that the club has to bear a lot of compensation for Ten Hag who was fired midway. Many teams do this, not only Manchester United, but I tend to believe Ten Hag will be kept until the end of the season.

Despite Manchester United's poor performance in charge, he doesn't seem to have many choices. Many players he wanted to recruit failed to bring in, including De Jong, previously from Barcelona. Ten Hag basically needs a lot of fresh players who can be relied on in defense, midfield and attack, while Manchester United is having difficulty reaching an agreement with the player's agent or club.

Since Manchester United has extended the contract with the current manager for one more season, if Manchester United wants to end the contract with this manager at the beginning of the season, then the manager will have to pay the full season. It can certainly be called a financial loss for any club. If Manchester United wanted to get rid of this manager, they would not have renewed his contract. So now it seems that they may keep this manager in charge of the club until 2025 even if they accept that the team will perform poorly under him for a full season. However, Manchester United should confirm in advance which manager will be given the responsibility of their club in the next season.

[tusandii]

Erik Ten Hag has entered his 3rd season at Manchester United but he has not been able to give his best for the club he coaches, failing in the Premier League title race and failing to go further in the Champions League should have given Man United a lot of lessons and they should look for a better coach than Erik Ten Hag.
There several good coaches, for some reason Man United still retains Erik Ten Hag, even after spending a lot of money, this coach still can't give his best.

But I heard news that if Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve Man United's performance until the end of 2024 he will be fired so currently Man United still gives him time to make improvements to the team.

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There is nothing to hope for anymore, Ten Hag has failed to make progress since he came to be Manchester United's coach even though there has been a lot of support and money spent to support Ten Hag to bring in players as he wants but the result is still the same.

Manchester United management just extended his contract at the beginning of last season so there is no other choice for Manchester United management but to wait or give time for Ten Hag this season.
Two defeats that have been suffered from the first 3 matches are not a good thing for the Manchester United team that has a high target this season and even the bad results will have a big impact on the mentality and confidence of the players and even the coach to face the next match.

The club management has given him many opportunities but he could not take advantage of the opportunities well and instead the club's condition is increasingly uncertain there are many controversies between him and many players on the team so that the players feel uncomfortable I think the club will not be able to find good chemistry between the coach and the players and if it continues like this the club will continue to experience difficulties and Man United is getting worse the club should not continue to delay firing the coach, he can no longer be expected.

None of Erik Ten Hag's chosen players are good either not in accordance with his coaching characteristics or indeed Erik Ten Hag who cannot distinguish which players are good or not, especially Man United goalkeeper Onana who is always used by Erik Ten Hag even though he often makes mistakes Man United's defense is very bad after David De Gea was replaced by this goalkeeper.

[mamesso]

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Sheikh Mansour as the owner of Manchester City has started to make preparations and is ready to do anything to keep Pep Guardiola at the Etihad Stadium longer. Pep Guardiola's contract only runs until June 2025, the club's top brass are not ready to lose the coach who has successfully presented the first UCL trophy for Manchester City.

Guardiola has served Manchester City for eight seasons, he managed to make Manchester City dominate the EPL and managed to win the EPL trophy in four consecutive seasons. Other prestigious trophies were also successfully presented, including the first UCL trophy won two seasons ago. It is understandable that Sheikh Mansour is very afraid of losing Guardiola because he always has a way of making his team one step ahead of its rivals, but if Guardiola decides to look for a new challenge in another League or manage a national team, Arsenal chance to win the EPL trophy will be even greater.

[mammusu]

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Sheikh Mansour as the owner of Manchester City has started to make preparations and is ready to do anything to keep Pep Guardiola at the Etihad Stadium longer. Pep Guardiola's contract only runs until June 2025, the club's top brass are not ready to lose the coach who has successfully presented the first UCL trophy for Manchester City.

Guardiola has served Manchester City for eight seasons, he managed to make Manchester City dominate the EPL and managed to win the EPL trophy in four consecutive seasons. Other prestigious trophies were also successfully presented, including the first UCL trophy won two seasons ago. It is understandable that Sheikh Mansour is very afraid of losing Guardiola because he always has a way of making his team one step ahead of its rivals, but if Guardiola decides to look for a new challenge in another League or manage a national team, Arsenal chance to win the EPL trophy will be even greater.

Manchester City is a rich team that has strong finances compared to other teams in the English league, with strong financial support, of course Manchester City has had no difficulty in bringing in great players so far, but without the support of a great coach, of course Manchester City fate will also be Maybe it won't be different with Manchester United, so that's why Sheikh Mansour immediately stepped in to ensure that Manchester City won't lose Guardiola at the end of the season, So far Guardiola has had a very big role in making Manchester City become the most successful team, so Sheikh Mansour is trying to keep Guardiola in any way at this time, the situation that is happening with Guardiola quite difficult for Manchester City because Guardiola contract will end in June 2025 and it seems that Guardiola still doesn't want to extend his contract, especially after he issued a statement that he was already at Manchester City. for 8 years and he is unlikely to be 8 more years at Manchester City and he also said that he is more inclined to leave than stay.

[Oluwa-btc]

Manchester United doesn't have any squad depth. I find even their main squad not strong enough honestly. I mean the defense and midfield got better after the recent transfers. But there is still a question mark in the attacking line...  

Hojlund is still injured. Zirkzee has just arrived and for now we don't know how good he will perform in the long run. Rashford is terrible but still preferred by Erik ten Hag on the left wing. Just why man?  

Garnacho should be playing there. He is a right-footed LW. I believe he has a bigger talent than Rashford at the same time. Diallo can stay on the right wing. Zirkzee should be at the centre.

After the recent transfer window, I can say that Manchester United has depth in the defense. ( De Ligt, Lisandro Martinez, Mazraoui, Dalot, Tyrell Malacia, Luke Shaw, Johnny Evans, Leny Yoro, Harry Maguire and lastly Victor Lindelof ) Rasmus Hojlund has been reported back from Injury and also training but they won't be forcing him into the first eleven immediately. Joshua Zirkzee will perform, you just need to know that this is the change we've been talking about, quick success do no come immediately, you've got to give them time though, some adapted immediately.
Fielding Rashford and not Garnacho would be the end of Erik Ten Hag. Rashford is way past his good days. He's got no passion to play for Manchester United no more. They'll do better, hopefully the month of September goes smoothly.


I feel like he's got whatever it takes to turn them into Premier League Winners and Champions, this season or next season. I'm rooting for Mikel Arteta. Can he just take a bold step towards signing a new striker?

[Salahmu]

Since Manchester United has extended the contract with the current manager for one more season, if Manchester United wants to end the contract with this manager at the beginning of the season, then the manager will have to pay the full season. It can certainly be called a financial loss for any club.

Yeah even if they decided to fire him is still at his own advantage because since they have extended his contract that means that he is entitled for full payment even if he was sacked by the club without finishing the additional one year contract, so the financial lost will be on the club and right now is the kind of lost Manchester United management is not ready to pay, so they are ready to accept any result they will get on this season from the coach because they have no option, well we just hope that the money Manchester United management spent on extending his contract never go in vain because already is obvious they will not be competitive but he should at least make a little positive change on the club, so that at least his contract extension will have a little significant.

[Lida93]

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Sheikh Mansour as the owner of Manchester City has started to make preparations and is ready to do anything to keep Pep Guardiola at the Etihad Stadium longer. Pep Guardiola's contract only runs until June 2025, the club's top brass are not ready to lose the coach who has successfully presented the first UCL trophy for Manchester City.

Guardiola has served Manchester City for eight seasons, he managed to make Manchester City dominate the EPL and managed to win the EPL trophy in four consecutive seasons. Other prestigious trophies were also successfully presented, including the first UCL trophy won two seasons ago. It is understandable that Sheikh Mansour is very afraid of losing Guardiola because he always has a way of making his team one step ahead of its rivals, but if Guardiola decides to look for a new challenge in another League or manage a national team, Arsenal chance to win the EPL trophy will be even greater.

This is more of the reasons why I believe that Manchester city is the most potent and organize club in the English premier league, because if you take a look at the kind of deals Pep Gardiola has been making of lately, it shows that he actually knows what he is doing as a manager.

So it's a massive step in the right direction by the owners of Manchester City to still retain his services, because to me, Manchester city hasn't been this dominant in the EPL and Europe the way they are now prior to Pep's arrival, under his leadership it's been a major plus for the  Cityzens. So the owner's decision to retain Pep in City doesn't come as a shocker to me.

[Velvet78]

I feel like he's got whatever it takes to turn them into Premier League Winners and Champions, this season or next season. I'm rooting for Mikel Arteta. Can he just take a bold step towards signing a new striker?

I think Arteta wants a reliable striker to be signed. But maybe the board don't want to spend too much money for now. Because if you are going to sign a solid striker then you should be ready to spend a lot.    But I think it would be worth it anyway. They don't need any other signing in the end. The squad is already great in every position. There is only a question mark when it comes to the CF position.

They can't go on with Havertz there forever. He is still playing better under Arteta's management of course. But still not like a real striker.    I hope they sign Gyökeres later on. He is one of the best names for the job.