⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Velvet78]

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/erik-ten-hag-manchester-united-board-meeting-cvh30fhwb

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

It seems the rest of clubs are celebrating this now.

This must be a complete joke. Just how did they end up with this decision?    After all that unsuccessful run they are really ready to give another chance? While not even making any progress? It is just... very interesting. Then Erik ten Hag stayed probably until the end of the season for now. I hope he finds a way to save this team otherwise it is going to be a huge waste of time.




Did you see this guys?    While we were waiting on what will happen to Manchester City about the breaches, this came out of nowhere. They already started to win against the Premier League. I'm really curious how this case will be concluded...

[TelolettOm]

Agree. It is funny that a draw result is considered as an improvement of Man United performance. If they failed to win the match, it means no improvement at all. Aston Villa is strong team now but Man United should have a chance to beat them.
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Of course this is not an improvement although in the end this result still seems better than not getting any points at all but it is definitely not an improvement as they are still the same.

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
and indeed if the standard is like this, it will be difficult for Man United to really be able to advance and develop again. They need more than just that, more than that. Or they will just be at that level, maybe even much worse.


Source: Man United performance against a Villa

[blue Snow]

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

Maybe the official compared with another club which have the same problem with coach. Yes, I agree to management big club like MU is not instant, the coach need much time to managed team to be solid. If they fired ten haq today, and recruit new coach that make teams will start again from the beginning and the possibility a new coach will make a new mistake then the official will repeat again to fired a new coach and recruit a new coach again, so on. Everyone knows finding a good coach is hard nowadays because they already have jobs and feel at home at their club, I think the official was make the right decision to extend it, but ten hag don't be fooled being noticed, because he have hard work and must make the team should be better from today.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

Maybe the official compared with another club which have the same problem with coach. Yes, I agree to management big club like MU is not instant, the coach need much time to managed team to be solid. If they fired ten haq today, and recruit new coach that make teams will start again from the beginning and the possibility a new coach will make a new mistake then the official will repeat again to fired a new coach and recruit a new coach again, so on. Everyone knows finding a good coach is hard nowadays because they already have jobs and feel at home at their club, I think the official was make the right decision to extend it, but ten hag don't be fooled being noticed, because he have hard work and must make the team should be better from today.

Like I did said in my previous comment on another premier league thread on this board, I don't completely believe that only Ten Hag is the reason behind the fall of Manchester united, if he was the main and major problem, I don't see any reason why the management still decided to keep him knowing fully well that it will be a waste of time and resources in the end, or is this really a case of "the devil you know is better than the angel you don't know"? Are they really afraid that if they sack ten hag now, they may likely end up with a coach that is worser than the current one?

Well, one thing I know for sure is that, running a business requires alot of critical thinking and calculations, most especially in times of challenges like this, because any wrong move, may likely lead to the complete closure and possibly death of that business.
So, I want to believe that the management of man united simply want to take their to find out what is really the root cause of their problems, in order for them to not out of desperation, end up making a the mistake of sacking a man that may likely be innocent.

[tusandii]

And regarding Ten Hag, to be honest, he really can't be blamed because perhaps a coach needs time to improve performance. But what Man United is currently achieving makes football fans think negatively about the coach.

How much longer will it take for Erik Ten Hag to handle Manchester United? Is the time they have spent so far only a short time? Almost 3 seasons and Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve the club's overall performance and still tends to be inconsistent if the club gives Erik Ten Hag a chance for a long time I think the club will go bankrupt over time they spend a lot of money in every transfer window but cannot provide positive results.

In my opinion, Manchester United's draw is not a bad result, at least Man United can still get 1 point because I initially thought Aston Villa would beat Man United like they beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League because if we judge from the performance point of view, Bayern Munich is better than Man United but fortunately Man United can maintain a good enough defense so that Aston Villa cannot break through their goal. Some people think that the Man United match with Aston Villa is a benchmark for the continuation of Erik Ten Hag's service if Man United loses again, but unfortunately every time I hope Erik Ten Hag is fired, there is always something that makes this coach feel safe and Man United management is still reluctant to fire Erik Ten Hag.

Manchester United fallen into a spiral. Two years and counting, we are yet to see results from trusting the process with Erik Ten Hag. Many fans are calling for his sack but the club still believes Erik Ten Hag is the best option for the club right now. The issue with Manchester United isn’t just poor attacking but also in defense, passing and midfield creativity. They are playing like kids who just got a football for the first time. ETH has failed to bring in the quality of players that can turn the situation around and until that aspect of recruiting the right players is addressed, Manchester United will continue to struggle.

Well that's what makes me a little angry with Man United's management whether they really turn a blind eye to their own club's bad results and give excessive praise if Man United gets good results even though only in a few matches. Even though comparison Man United has experienced bad results that are almost equivalent to their winning results. The club's management must open their eyes and give Erik Ten Hag a firmness so that he has a fear if his career is threatened and optimizes all his efforts for the club.

[len01]

And regarding Ten Hag, to be honest, he really can't be blamed because perhaps a coach needs time to improve performance. But what Man United is currently achieving makes football fans think negatively about the coach.

How much longer will it take for Erik Ten Hag to handle Manchester United? Is the time they have spent so far only a short time? Almost 3 seasons and Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve the club's overall performance and still tends to be inconsistent if the club gives Erik Ten Hag a chance for a long time I think the club will go bankrupt over time they spend a lot of money in every transfer window but cannot provide positive results.

I admit that Ten Hag has not given a positive impact in the last 3 seasons but sometimes a coach really needs time to be able to improve the team's performance and bring Man United to a higher level. But in this case, Ten Hag has not been able to give anything and we all do not know what happened behind this problem and of course we just have to wait for the decision of Man United's management. If it is still maintained, there must be something that we cannot know behind all these problems. What is certain is that we just have to see until January.

[Oluwa-btc]

Manchester United fallen into a spiral. Two years and counting, we are yet to see results from trusting the process with Erik Ten Hag. Many fans are calling for his sack but the club still believes Erik Ten Hag is the best option for the club right now. The issue with Manchester United isn’t just poor attacking but also in defense, passing and midfield creativity. They are playing like kids who just got a football for the first time. ETH has failed to bring in the quality of players that can turn the situation around and until that aspect of recruiting the right players is addressed, Manchester United will continue to struggle.

So you didn't get results from EtH's first season? What a joke! I will not mention the second season but, you didn't see how Erik ten Hag did during his first season, setting home records at Old Trafford, won a trophy during his first season, played two finals in his first season, qualifying for the Champions League Competition and also finishing third position? They raise a dump agenda and most of y'all just jump and hop on it the way these h**s hop on them d!cks! Goddamn. Rebuilding a club takes time and I never expected quick and immediate impact, don't forget players left and some new names came in. I'm not just comfortable with the Rasmus Hojlund signing and some lads. Not all!

[Lida93]

Did you see this guys?    While we were waiting on what will happen to Manchester City about the breaches, this came out of nowhere. They already started to win against the Premier League. I'm really curious how this case will be concluded...

There is nothing to be curious about anymore than we already had in this case between Manchester City and the English Premier League, like the tribunal findings says it all, that at the end of the entire legal battles everything will fall in place in the favour of the Cityzens club. I think for me, it will be very much unfair with the intended sanctions the EPL management intends on lashing on Manchester City because it's definitely going to be detrimental to the club's prestige and position in the league. Maybe they should have found ways to come up with different application to the issues on ground rather than the manner they had initially intended.

[Belarge]

I admit that Ten Hag has not given a positive impact in the last 3 seasons but sometimes a coach really needs time to be able to improve the team's performance and bring Man United to a higher level. But in this case, Ten Hag has not been able to give anything and we all do not know what happened behind this problem and of course we just have to wait for the decision of Man United's management. If it is still maintained, there must be something that we cannot know behind all these problems. What is certain is that we just have to see until January.

Time is not on the side of the Red Devils because they're currently weigh below the expected position on the league table, they have to bounce back to streak winnings if they're keen on having a proper extensive stellar performance. What's currently wrong with the club standards of performance? You will blame the coach, the team's board or the players? Personally they're all to be blamed because all sectors tends to become reluctant when it comes to the crucial dealings of the club. Besides on the records, Manchester United management still have high hopes on Erik Ten Hag? I don't see the manager having a prosperous season with the Red Devils, rather we're watching a sack. The same coach we're all complaining about was exactly the manager we all regarded as the chosen manager to fastenup the improvement of the club.

[emrecemsan]

It is a big decision made by Manchester United owner to tell the truth. Jim Ratcliffe decided to take a bigger risk by moving on with Erik ten Hag. 

Is this all just because he won the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the recent years? Do they really think this is enough to continue managing a team like Manchester United? I mean you can give a manager 1-2 years first to see what changes. You can even do more by waiting for the first weeks of his 3rd season as well. But if he is still not improving in especially the Premier League then it must be over already. We will see if he will make it to the end of the season.

[Sim_card]

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

Maybe the official compared with another club which have the same problem with coach. Yes, I agree to management big club like MU is not instant, the coach need much time to managed team to be solid. If they fired ten haq today, and recruit new coach that make teams will start again from the beginning and the possibility a new coach will make a new mistake then the official will repeat again to fired a new coach and recruit a new coach again, so on. Everyone knows finding a good coach is hard nowadays because they already have jobs and feel at home at their club, I think the official was make the right decision to extend it, but ten hag don't be fooled being noticed, because he have hard work and must make the team should be better from today.

How much time does Ten Hag needs to bring the club performance to solid when he has spent more than two years in the club as a head coach. I think that there is a lot going on in Manchester United that we don't know with Ten Hag and the management, if not why not get his ass kicked after lots of poor performance. Maybe the management is still having big hope on Ten Hag that will will bring home another trophy this again, so that Ten Hag can reassess himself and conclude with 3 years, 3 trophies to intimidate the fans and management in order for contract extension  . But I guess that will not happen.

[Abu-Naim]

It is a big decision made by Manchester United owner to tell the truth. Jim Ratcliffe decided to take a bigger risk by moving on with Erik ten Hag. 

Is this all just because he won the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the recent years? Do they really think this is enough to continue managing a team like Manchester United? I mean you can give a manager 1-2 years first to see what changes. You can even do more by waiting for the first weeks of his 3rd season as well. But if he is still not improving in especially the Premier League then it must be over already. We will see if he will make it to the end of the season.

The management of Manchester United might have considered several reason that made them to decide moving on with Eric Ten Hag for the meantime, they might have considered the coaches they can get to replace him which if I ask you guys, I don't think someone will come with a list of good manager that suit Manchester United standard to replace Ten Hag, and as such, sacking him at this point will be a big lost for the management because they have to pay him off with his management since he is still under contract with them.
Let's see how Manchester United will perform this season, maybe Ten Hag will prove people that are criticizing him wrong by winning another trophy for Manchester United, which I think it will not be possible unless if Ten Hag improve his team selection and substitution pattern to be having positive impact in their games.

[hahay]

It is a big decision made by Manchester United owner to tell the truth. Jim Ratcliffe decided to take a bigger risk by moving on with Erik ten Hag. 

Is this all just because he won the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the recent years? Do they really think this is enough to continue managing a team like Manchester United? I mean you can give a manager 1-2 years first to see what changes. You can even do more by waiting for the first weeks of his 3rd season as well. But if he is still not improving in especially the Premier League then it must be over already. We will see if he will make it to the end of the season.

Erik ten Hag has a contract until 2026, and I think that is a long time considering the bad results he has had so far. However, if Manchester United really still trust Erik ten Hag to be the manager of Manchester United, then I think the opportunity given is only until this season which means his contract will end one season earlier. Because after all, Manchester United is  very much expected to fire Erik ten Hag at this moment, but if they still give Erik ten Hag a chance, then I think until the end of this season is enough and not longer until 2026, because it is very worrying because his position is getting closer to the relegation zone.

[Richbased]

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

Helping the club win two trophies is not a yardstick that ETH should continue with his duty for Manchester united. Already i saw the ''handwriting on the wall'' that United may not sack him anytime soon because when the club was seriously underperforming last season the club didn't see any reasons to sack him and after he won the F.A cup they still granted him the privilege to continue with his job so am not even surprised that they granted him a one year extension which means that whether the team improves or not he will still continue till the end of one 2026. It's the club's decision so they should deal with any outcome that surfaces later on because giving ETH another 2 years to be in-charge of the club may not really end well but let's watch and see how it goes.

[Furious 7]

Erik ten Hag has a contract until 2026, and I think that is a long time considering the bad results he has had so far. However, if Manchester United really still trust Erik ten Hag to be the manager of Manchester United, then I think the opportunity given is only until this season which means his contract will end one season earlier. Because after all, Manchester United is  very much expected to fire Erik ten Hag at this moment, but if they still give Erik ten Hag a chance, then I think until the end of this season is enough and not longer until 2026, because it is very worrying because his position is getting closer to the relegation zone.

It will be ridiculous when Manchester United continue to try to believe that Ten Hag will be able to bring Manchester United better because in the end until now we can even see their performance has not even changed since Ten Hag was and became a coach from the start of the debut until the 3rd season this time.

Of course this should be used as a situation where Manchester United take a stand, it's just that until now it looks like it will only be wishful thinking because no matter how bad Manchester United's performance is in the end Ten Hag is always defended and of course this makes me feel a little strange when something like this always repeats itself even though if you look in terms of the conditions that occur Ten Hag is actually not worthy of being at Manchester United should.

Currently there is no reason that really makes sense when Manchester United try to keep Ten Hag as a coach in the condition of their game which is indeed very destroyed.

[EL MOHA]

This must be a complete joke. Just how did they end up with this decision?    After all that unsuccessful run they are really ready to give another chance? While not even making any progress? It is just... very interesting. Then Erik ten Hag stayed probably until the end of the season for now. I hope he finds a way to save this team otherwise it is going to be a huge waste of time.

Like I said before that meeting wasn’t specifically to take out Erik Ten Hag, if we look at the whole situation on ground I think the day Manchester United handed over a new contract to Erik Ten Hag was the day they actually decided to stick with him for a while, you can’t give a contract to a manager that hasn’t been convincing and sack him after words. I think Manchester United board are looking at the direction that Arenal took with Arteta and are are ready to wait. The director of sports already made it clear that they are looking at 2028 or so to win the league as it will be the period the club will be 150 years.
So I don’t see them getting him sack but with further poor performance I think he might be out without even then having a meeting about it.

Did you see this guys?    While we were waiting on what will happen to Manchester City about the breaches, this came out of nowhere. They already started to win against the Premier League. I'm really curious how this case will be concluded...

I always say that the immunity that the bigger clubs enjoyed is far too much and unhealthy for football, if this was mid or lower club it would have Been something else. Although this is not the main case but with this I don’t think even if Manchester city loses any case they will face the actual punishment for it.

[Velvet78]

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

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It wasn't me making that post my friend.    I was the quoting one.




This is really bad news for Mazraoui and Manchester United both.    He is out for a few weeks and as far as I can see his return date isn't certain yet. He has just signed for them and now this happens. The Red Devils are surely not one of the lucky teams in the Premier League.

But at least they are lucky about one thing this time. There is a national break so he is going to miss less games than normal.

[Ndabagi01]

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
and indeed if the standard is like this, it will be difficult for Man United to really be able to advance and develop again. They need more than just that, more than that. Or they will just be at that level, maybe even much worse.

Until Eric Ten Hag over confidence is been brought to an abrupt end, he will never stop having that big hope on himself that he’s going to do better and make the team great. He keeps repeating the same thing and the management are over looking everything and still giving him the mandate to carry on the affairs of the team. He needs to just make good use of this opportunity before everything take a u-turn, because he should also be expecting it if his performance does not improve soon.

It is a big decision made by Manchester United owner to tell the truth. Jim Ratcliffe decided to take a bigger risk by moving on with Erik ten Hag.  

Is this all just because he won the FA Cup and EFL Cup in the recent years? Do they really think this is enough to continue managing a team like Manchester United? I mean you can give a manager 1-2 years first to see what changes. You can even do more by waiting for the first weeks of his 3rd season as well. But if he is still not improving in especially the Premier League then it must be over already. We will see if he will make it to the end of the season.

The FA Cup and the EFL Cup is what is still keeping Eric Ten Hag at Manchester United because from all indications, he ought to have been sacked by now and given a good bye later at the end of last season. I don’t particularly see why they kept him, he’s too over confident in his style of management and I think that’s what has been winning him over with the management. Nothing lasts forever if theirs no change, it even becomes boring. So I believe he will have to show more than what he has been doing before he’ll make it with the club to the end of the season or even to the next round of the season with Manchester United.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Manchester United might pull some triggers we may not see coming because if they lose this match, the little credibility they are managing with fans is going to be over and more probability of Erik Ten Hag going to leave the club, forget the scope of early and believing in players. There is nothing to believe in him again, all those statements are crap and cheap talks.

I really don't see any reason to keep Ten Hag on the team, I don't find any logical reasons, however, those who defend Ten Hag, I don't know why they do it, I understand his family and some of his friends, but the rest who are MU fans should do their part to ensure that MU wins and has good results. At this stage in life, a team should not be the victim of a coach who is in 13th place and says that they are the best team that has improved the most in the PL , that is something that doesn't make sense, I still don't understand what they are defending him for.

[Palakka]

It's official!!!!! Ten Hag survives from getting axed by INEOS. He may be leaving once his contract expires. But, I think it's an understandable decision. He helped his club win two trophies. This may be why they were reluctant to sack him.

Also, I'm shocked Manchester United gave Ten Hag a one-year extension. They may be ready to give him additional money to rebuild his club again.

Helping the club win two trophies is not a yardstick that ETH should continue with his duty for Manchester united. Already i saw the ''handwriting on the wall'' that United may not sack him anytime soon because when the club was seriously underperforming last season the club didn't see any reasons to sack him and after he won the F.A cup they still granted him the privilege to continue with his job so am not even surprised that they granted him a one year extension which means that whether the team improves or not he will still continue till the end of one 2026. It's the club's decision so they should deal with any outcome that surfaces later on because giving ETH another 2 years to be in-charge of the club may not really end well but let's watch and see how it goes.

The decision to keep Ten Hag after what happened to Manchester United at the moment will certainly spark a lot of controversy among fans, I think what Manchester United are doing is very strange and difficult to accept if they only use the two minor trophies as an excuse to keep Ten Hag until his contract expires, with the conditions seen in Manchester at the moment may gradually lose their status as a big team in the The Premier League and it is not impossible that it will happen if they continue to keep Ten Hag who not been able to bring Manchester United to the better so far, the trust given by the management to Ten Hag obviously has a big risk and I think the management will realize the mistake when Manchester may be relegated later  .