⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Pandu Geddon]

in my opinion it is very likely that Ten Hag will be kicked out before Christmas, it's a normal thing, Manchester United is now in ruins, I don't like how he plays and I hope there is a crucial change in the management of the team, he's absolutely a manager to change immediately and I think they realized it

Firing Ten Haag is easy, but finding the right person to replace him is difficult.
Many good managers but not necessarily can succeed at this club, proven after Sir Alex Man United became a team that had difficulty achieving, they won several trophies but they were not favorites to be a title challenger.
The problems at Man United are becoming more complex, I am sure it will take time to fix this team.

Indeed, changing United to be better will take time. and the first step that club management must take is the right coach. remember, even if they get a new coach, United will not achieve big changes in a short time.
Many also criticize some of the players who are currently Ten Hag's choices. if the coach is replaced, of course, there will be changes in some players. this will be a long process. but if you want to see good progress, United must do it immediately.

[Abu-Naim]

Wrong, Mourinho did it, he won 3 trophies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._managers

Man! Have you got comprehension issues with what's said? Jose Mourinho did three finals in two seasons? And if you was to mention trophies won, you'd mention that community shield? That's crazy man truthfully. I don't see that as a trophy for real. Jose Mourinho never did what Erik Ten Hag did and lastly, Jose Mourinho's tactics for Manchester United was hell boring, outdated defensive strategy for Manchester United. Don't act like his style of players wasn't itching to the normal eye. Ole Gunner Solskjaer also did play good football but he was tactically inept. The way he plays is no different from how Gareth Southgate plays, sit back and then hit your opponents with counter attacks. Buzz-kill.

Mourinho's tactics while coaching Manchester United was boring, but the team was in good form, and they are well competitive; he doesn't have such poor performance in European competition. I don't actually see anything special in wining one FA Cup and one Carabao Cup for big team like Manchester United as an achievement when other teams are battling to win the Premier League. If these achievements come from someone coaching small team, I will take it as a great achievement but making Manchester United as whole looks like an average team especially in the Europa League.
Ten Hag did not deserve to keep coaching Manchester United; he needs to be sacked because the team gave him all he requested for, and this his third sseason, and nothing to show for it and the team keep have bad performances every time.

[Litzki1990]

Who knows if Erik Ten Hang has a secret deal with Manchester United management. I say this because of the audacity he uses to approach the media after every poor performance he gives out weekly. He is so subjective and threats the Manchester United matter as if it is his personal affair or like he owes 35% share in the coy. I will be looking up to the day he will be sacked. I will want to know his statement that day.

Ten Hag very optimistic attitude about remaining Manchester United manager raises big questions, especially after the board of directors met for 6 hours and no decision was made that could burden Ten Hag. It is only natural that negative assumptions arise such as a special relationship or secret agreement between him and the management because his position seems untouchable even though Manchester United performance is getting worse. It is very interesting to follow Ten Hag's development at Manchester United, how strong the management is in facing pressure from external parties such as fans who continue to push for the dismissal of the coach who is considered incompetent in handling the club.

I would say to Manchester United that if their club gets worse they will realize that they need to change their manager. Why can't the United management understand that if their club is handed over to another manager then the performance of the team will definitely change. The simple fact is they are too late to understand, if it was the case that Manchester United don't have good quality players then maybe there would be no chance to blame the manager but Manchester United have many good quality players but still Manchester United can't do well with these players. But if a manager is not tactical, he cannot plan well against the opposition, as we are seeing now in the case of Manchester United.

[ndutndut]

Firing Ten Haag is easy, but finding the right person to replace him is difficult.
Many good managers but not necessarily can succeed at this club, proven after Sir Alex Man United became a team that had difficulty achieving, they won several trophies but they were not favorites to be a title challenger.
The problems at Man United are becoming more complex, I am sure it will take time to fix this team.

I also think the same as you. Why Ten Hag has not been fired because it is difficult to find a replacement and it is not certain that the targeted coach wants to coach Man United, because we know that building a team takes a process but Man United fans are impatient with that process. How many times have Man United changed coaches but none of them have been able to change Man United for the better because they want instant change. Since Sir Alex retired Man United has been in chaos and the problems have become more complete, and it is true as you said they need time to fix this team.

Indeed, changing United to be better will take time. and the first step that club management must take is the right coach. remember, even if they get a new coach, United will not achieve big changes in a short time.
Many also criticize some of the players who are currently Ten Hag's choices. if the coach is replaced, of course, there will be changes in some players. this will be a long process. but if you want to see good progress, United must do it immediately.

Since the beginning many have predicted that Ten Hag would fail at Man United, why? Because if you look at the player transfers, it is more about nostalgia, it proves that this coach is not used to new players, wants to be in a comfort zone with tactics in a league different from the English league. In addition, Ten Hag seems unable to accept other people's opinions, it can be seen on the sidelines he disagrees with Ruud. Moreover, he does not accept input from players, who are clearly experienced in the English league field and some of them have played well with tactics and game plans that are different from the previous coach.

Ten Hag's attitude should be changed so that his performance improves, don't protect each other's egos. Because for now firing Ten Hag is also not the right solution, so Ten Hag must change and be willing to accept input from others.

[Velvet78]

I'm really impressed with Chelsea's performance this season.    After that manager replacement in an unexpected moment, I was really wondering what they were going to do with Enzo Maresca.

He has really made a solid start to the season being in top four and only four points away from the leader. They are the second most scoring team as well. This makes me really excited about what they can do more during the rest of the season. Finally they can join the Champions League after a two-season break maybe... Palmer is really not from our world in my opinion.    He is playing a huge role in their success so far.

What do you say about their chance?

[asriloni]

in my opinion it is very likely that Ten Hag will be kicked out before Christmas, it's a normal thing, Manchester United is now in ruins, I don't like how he plays and I hope there is a crucial change in the management of the team, he's absolutely a manager to change immediately and I think they realized it

Firing Ten Haag is easy, but finding the right person to replace him is difficult.
Many good managers but not necessarily can succeed at this club, proven after Sir Alex Man United became a team that had difficulty achieving, they won several trophies but they were not favorites to be a title challenger.
The problems at Man United are becoming more complex, I am sure it will take time to fix this team.

But, you won't know the result without changing the coach of Manchester United. It's pretty much the same as you're looking for the last piece of the puzzle to complete it. And this is the most difficult task considering you must find a puzzle that could fit your team.

And there's nothing wrong if Manchester United does it. It's to ensure they get the right coach who can help them achieve their targets. Take a look at their competitors. A club like Chelsea always fired its coach until they found someone who could fit them well.

Also, in fact, many big clubs that won lots of trophies were always changing their coaches, too. I don't think it is taboo.

[Hanadawa]

Indeed, changing United to be better will take time. and the first step that club management must take is the right coach. remember, even if they get a new coach, United will not achieve big changes in a short time.
Many also criticize some of the players who are currently Ten Hag's choices. if the coach is replaced, of course, there will be changes in some players. this will be a long process. but if you want to see good progress, United must do it immediately.

I agree with you and yes I think this is something that people should know. When a team is performing badly then there is a problem that needs to be fixed and a solution found. What happened with United is they let Ten Hag be the manager for a long time but Manchester United did not get better. The fans want to see Manchester United like the Ferguson era even though it is impossible. But I think changing the manager can be a long term solution. United need to find the right manager to rebuild their squad.

[Docnaster]

I'm really impressed with Chelsea's performance this season.    After that manager replacement in an unexpected moment, I was really wondering what they were going to do with Enzo Maresca.

He has really made a solid start to the season being in top four and only four points away from the leader. They are the second most scoring team as well. This makes me really excited about what they can do more during the rest of the season. Finally they can join the Champions League after a two-season break maybe... Palmer is really not from our world in my opinion.    He is playing a huge role in their success so far.

What do you say about their chance?

Though Chelsea aren't currently in that position the club fans are yearning for but considering their performances this season, I think it's safe to say that they have actually improved from what we've been seeing in the team since 2020/21 they won the UEFA Champions League title.
Chelsea talisman Cole Palmer was announced the winner of the English Premier League player of the month award for September while the club manager Enzo Maresca was awarded the best manager of the month. It's a testament that there's improvement in the team and if they can continue to remain consistent, then I think they can go all the way and win the league title this season

[el kaka22]

I mean he had sixth place in one year, but won Europa cup and community shield, like it or not, the next year he was runners up in the league and the fa cup. How many managers can say they made United second place since him? Nobody, which is proof he did something correct. I am not saying Mourinho is great or anything, I am just saying you can like him or hate him but realize nobody after him got as much success as him in the league, nobody else won cups better than him neither, the best ETH got was fa cup, and I take Europa over FA any day and also Mourinho was runners up there, whereas ETH made this team finish dead last on their UCL group, and doing terrible at Europa now as well.

So while Mourinho may not be great, which I agree, he is also not followed by better managers neither. The discussions about if a manager is good or not, always stays within the manager himself, why talk about Mourinho and not compare him with others? Makes no sense.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The current management are either blinded by the two trophies Ten Hag has won or are just scared of getting a new coach, since they know that will cost them more, from the fact that some these players will be nothing to no use to the coach whereas Ten Hag requested for the likes of them.

Manchester United fans where ones happy especially last season when they won the FA Cup but they all failed to see that there haven't been much growth in their performance in the Epl and Uefa fixtures. This seems to be like the worst Manchester United coach performance in Uefa matches.
Though I think some fans still shows their support of him still remaining coach, that rather the players ought to be blame, seems like they are tired of changing coaches and nothing has relatively changed with same players.

Well Ten Hag will stay, I don't know what they can think of achieving, he may have already managed the club's duels very well, but what can Ten Hag achieve now? Do you really think he can at least qualify for the UCL? Knowing that there are so many teams in the PL hungry to stay ? Well now the UCL has other rules, they are more lenient, maybe that will help them, but the other teams in the UCL will fight one by one for their positions, this is something that will always happen, what I can say about this team is that they do not generate the fear or respect that they generated before, they already see them as the team that is easy to take the 3 points from.

[fullhdpixel]

Firing Ten Haag is easy, but finding the right person to replace him is difficult.
Many good managers but not necessarily can succeed at this club, proven after Sir Alex Man United became a team that had difficulty achieving, they won several trophies but they were not favorites to be a title challenger.
The problems at Man United are becoming more complex, I am sure it will take time to fix this team.

I also think the same as you. Why Ten Hag has not been fired because it is difficult to find a replacement and it is not certain that the targeted coach wants to coach Man United, because we know that building a team takes a process but Man United fans are impatient with that process. How many times have Man United changed coaches but none of them have been able to change Man United for the better because they want instant change. Since Sir Alex retired Man United has been in chaos and the problems have become more complete, and it is true as you said they need time to fix this team.

The problem with the moves United making is the money, they get players for a lot of money and do not get what's their worth out of them, Antony has been a joke since he has been bought out, because we all knew he wasn't worth that much money even when he was bought, but then he proved to be not even 20-30 million worth, which made it even funnier, well not for United fans of course.

So the problem they have is overpaying for players and they are still doing it, even after INEOS take over, they are still paying too much. I understand they have a name, and teams only accept when they overpay, but then reject the offer and put a money on the table saying this is your last offer take it or leave it and then if they don't, go for free agents and even cheaper teams and get star potential players instead of stars. This squad is terrible with the way we can see the team doing and they spent way too much money for such a terrible result as well.

[Huppercase]

Mourinho's tactics while coaching Manchester United was boring, but the team was in good form, and they are well competitive; he doesn't have such poor performance in European competition. I don't actually see anything special in wining one FA Cup and one Carabao Cup for big team like Manchester United as an achievement when other teams are battling to win the Premier League. If these achievements come from someone coaching small team, I will take it as a great achievement but making Manchester United as whole looks like an average team especially in the Europa League.
Ten Hag did not deserve to keep coaching Manchester United; he needs to be sacked because the team gave him all he requested for, and this his third sseason, and nothing to show for it and the team keep have bad performances every time.

Football style of 20 years ago will definitely be harder than that of 2024, Mourihno won 1 European league for Manchester united despite things been difficult for him and I will tell you he is 10 times better than Erik Ten Hag, he doesn't criticized players like Erik does and don't give excuses when he failed to win matches and do I forget that he is fun around players, hardly you will see players even speak about him in interviews or when ask opinion about him

At this point, the failure looks more obvious but yiu wonder how he got the job. Mourihno has one of the best gallery of trophies before and even after he left Manchester United, the portfolio was worth the man for coaching Manchester United but Erik gallery of trophy is dried and yet they employed him and they can't dismiss him for their own bad decisions even when things are very bad for the club.

[hahay]

Indeed, changing United to be better will take time. and the first step that club management must take is the right coach. remember, even if they get a new coach, United will not achieve big changes in a short time.
Many also criticize some of the players who are currently Ten Hag's choices. if the coach is replaced, of course, there will be changes in some players. this will be a long process. but if you want to see good progress, United must do it immediately.

I agree with you and yes I think this is something that people should know. When a team is performing badly then there is a problem that needs to be fixed and a solution found. What happened with United is they let Ten Hag be the manager for a long time but Manchester United did not get better. The fans want to see Manchester United like the Ferguson era even though it is impossible. But I think changing the manager can be a long term solution. United need to find the right manager to rebuild their squad.

I am sure, if Manchester United has the right coach, then Manchester United will succeed in rising to become a strong team in the Premier League. Because after all, it seems that Chelsea is also a lesson about how efforts are continuously made to get the right coach every season. In addition, about Barcelona, ​​even though they did not make many changes to the squad like last season when they were still under Xavi, but this season under Hansi Flick,  Barcelona has still succeeded in improving the quality of its performance even though the Barcelona squad this season is not much different from last season.

With these two teams, I think it can be proof of how important the right coach is to be able to make a team succeed in rising. At least there are still other teams that when they change coaches, the quality and performance of the team becomes better, such as Aston Villa for example. Therefore, I am sure Manchester United needs a coach who is truly capable of maximizing the potential of each player, because that way of course the team's performance will be better because basically Manchester United also has a good squad.

[Pokapoka124]

Did you see this guys?    While we were waiting on what will happen to Manchester City about the breaches, this came out of nowhere. They already started to win against the Premier League. I'm really curious how this case will be concluded...

There is nothing to be curious about anymore than we already had in this case between Manchester City and the English Premier League, like the tribunal findings says it all, that at the end of the entire legal battles everything will fall in place in the favour of the Cityzens club. I think for me, it will be very much unfair with the intended sanctions the EPL management intends on lashing on Manchester City because it's definitely going to be detrimental to the club's prestige and position in the league. Maybe they should have found ways to come up with different application to the issues on ground rather than the manner they had initially intended.

I never thought Manchester City would be the one to make accusations against the English Premier League and win. If I am understanding this correctly, does this mean Manchester City is free of the 115 charges. That case has been ongoing for too long, they should just tell us if City are going to be punished or not. Just a couple of days ago, I read that Manchester City’s director of football Txiki Begiristain is set to leave the club at end of this season. I assumed he was leaving because of the charges that City may likely be found guilty of, but hearing this news now I doubt City will lose the case.  

[TelolettOm]

Bad to see this again.
In fact, Man United has several players who actually have good skills. but were not able to be stimulated by ten Hag and only became something really ridiculous.

Who knows if Erik Ten Hang has a secret deal with Manchester United management. I say this because of the audacity he uses to approach the media after every poor performance he gives out weekly. He is so subjective and threats the Manchester United matter as if it is his personal affair or like he owes 35% share in the coy. I will be looking up to the day he will be sacked. I will want to know his statement that day.

Ah I don't know, maybe because it's a shame for them to spend more money on Sack Ten Hag, or they don't have a candidate who wants to be the coach of Man United. This is a very bad start for Man United, in this EPL, even from 7 matches, they lost 3 times, and conceded more goals. This is bad, very bad. I can't say anything anymore when it comes to Man United.


Source: Manchester United statistic

I never thought Manchester City would be the one to make accusations against the English Premier League and win. If I am understanding this correctly, does this mean Manchester City is free of the 115 charges.

Both Man City and the EPL claim the victory of the decision related to the case. So, is this really final?
Or is there still some more judgment again?

Both sides claimed victory after the decision of an arbitration panel was published on Monday following a legal challenge by City against the league's associated party transaction (APT) regulations.

Source: Both Manchester City and the Premier League claimed victory after Monday's legal ruling by an arbitration panel

[blue Snow]

I never thought Manchester City would be the one to make accusations against the English Premier League and win. If I am understanding this correctly, does this mean Manchester City is free of the 115 charges. That case has been ongoing for too long, they should just tell us if City are going to be punished or not. Just a couple of days ago, I read that Manchester City’s director of football Txiki Begiristain is set to leave the club at end of this season. I assumed he was leaving because of the charges that City may likely be found guilty of, but hearing this news now I doubt City will lose the case.  

yeah I think this case is quite complicated that make manchester city accusations them. And about 115 charges, I think there is no final decision yet, because the legal process is still ongoing, even the rumors circulating the city will free from all charges but we can't conclude before official decision from the court. Yes, I heard that also if Txiki Begiristain just leave, but that is still a rumor, maybe people think Begiristain leave because this case, but that is also not certain, many other factors that make he leave, it could be because there is a mismatch between official and him, or other factor. We can't speculate yet, and I hope no impact with Pep, because Begiristain is someone who is very close with him.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Who knows if Erik Ten Hang has a secret deal with Manchester United management. I say this because of the audacity he uses to approach the media after every poor performance he gives out weekly. He is so subjective and threats the Manchester United matter as if it is his personal affair or like he owes 35% share in the coy. I will be looking up to the day he will be sacked. I will want to know his statement that day.

Sometimes one wonders what the club's preference is for that guy who has done so much harm to MU , I don't know, sometimes I wonder if he has threatened them or something with something he knows about them that is very bad? Because in reality it is impossible for a coach so much of a loser to have so much acceptance in a club , You can't cover the sun with a finger , the guy Really is a big loser and makes his players burn out , the best thing the players can do is leave if they Want to look towards a good future , but I think Ten Hag will continue doing the same , nothing.

[asriloni]

I'm really impressed with Chelsea's performance this season.    After that manager replacement in an unexpected moment, I was really wondering what they were going to do with Enzo Maresca.

He has really made a solid start to the season being in top four and only four points away from the leader. They are the second most scoring team as well. This makes me really excited about what they can do more during the rest of the season. Finally they can join the Champions League after a two-season break maybe... Palmer is really not from our world in my opinion.    He is playing a huge role in their success so far.

What do you say about their chance?

Maresca really shut up all of his doubters. He has been telling his doubters if everything needs a process. I was happy he was right. It took a short time for him to create a solid squad. His team was having unexpected performances as well.

Even bookies were giving high odds for Maresca's team. This means they believe it can't perform as well as it did

But, Maresca is proving it wrong. But to say his team could finally join in UCL is wrong. This is because it's not yet happening. We're still having more than 25 matches left. So, his team needs to finish in the top 4. And this is EPL, when anything can change at the end of season.

Talking about Maresca's team chance, as long as they still perform at the current rate. It's very possible to finish at top 4.

[tusandii]

I'm really impressed with Chelsea's performance this season.    After that manager replacement in an unexpected moment, I was really wondering what they were going to do with Enzo Maresca.

He has really made a solid start to the season being in top four and only four points away from the leader. They are the second most scoring team as well. This makes me really excited about what they can do more during the rest of the season. Finally they can join the Champions League after a two-season break maybe... Palmer is really not from our world in my opinion.    He is playing a huge role in their success so far.

What do you say about their chance?

Though Chelsea aren't currently in that position the club fans are yearning for but considering their performances this season, I think it's safe to say that they have actually improved from what we've been seeing in the team since 2020/21 they won the UEFA Champions League title.
Chelsea talisman Cole Palmer was announced the winner of the English Premier League player of the month award for September while the club manager Enzo Maresca was awarded the best manager of the month. It's a testament that there's improvement in the team and if they can continue to remain consistent, then I think they can go all the way and win the league title this season

It takes little by little improvement for the club to get back to its best version and so far Chelsea have improved significantly since Enzo Maresca took charge but I don't have such high expectations this season about Chelsea I mean to win the Premier League title because they have to at least beat Pep Guardiola's men and knock Man City off the top of the table, but I think they have a chance to be in the top 4 this season with that in the next seasons they can be strong candidates in the Premier League again honestly I am very happy to see Chelsea starting to improve this season.
Regarding Cole Palmer and Enzo Maresca they are both a good combination this season Cole Palmer and Enzo Maresca bring back success for Chelsea

[Lida93]

It takes little by little improvement for the club to get back to its best version and so far Chelsea have improved significantly since Enzo Maresca took charge but I don't have such high expectations this season about Chelsea I mean to win the Premier League title because they have to at least beat Pep Guardiola's men and knock Man City off the top of the table, but I think they have a chance to be in the top 4 this season with that in the next seasons they can be strong candidates in the Premier League again honestly I am very happy to see Chelsea starting to improve this season.
Regarding Cole Palmer and Enzo Maresca they are both a good combination this season Cole Palmer and Enzo Maresca bring back success for Chelsea

Chelsea is one team that are on the top of their game this EPL season, something  that if we're to compare their performance of the immediate past season where every club in the EPL was eager to meet Chelsea because of how confident they were to to beating Chelsea and getting the three points, and as a Chelsea fan it was very horrible experience. To this end, this season I doubt any club is that yearning to meet with the blues because there has been a massive improvement with the team playing style, the attacking front is now a threat to any team be it against Manchester City or Arsenal. Enzo Maresca is actually doing a great project and it's gonna be mind-blowing when Chelsea comes back much stronger to becoming the title contenders again as it were in the days of Didier Drogba, Frank lampard, Ramires etc. For now I do believe they are still in the blocks building process...