Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28

[KTChampions]

The latest news is Mike Tyson agreed to train Ngannou in his up and coming fight against Tyson Fury, he followed his promise that he would train Ngannou if he had a boxing match coming and this is it, Ngannou had a big knock out punch if Mike can train him to polish his boxing skill and put a good timing in his punches he has a good chance of beating Tyson Fury.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-fury-francis-ngannou-30621303

With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

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The latest news is Mike Tyson agreed to train Ngannou in his up and coming fight against Tyson Fury, he followed his promise that he would train Ngannou if he had a boxing match coming and this is it, Ngannou had a big knock out punch if Mike can train him to polish his boxing skill and put a good timing in his punches he has a good chance of beating Tyson Fury.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-fury-francis-ngannou-30621303

With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

I think that is not the plan because we both know specially them as the much experienced fighters that each boxer/fighter have their own style and power which can be incomparable if ever they will try to imitate someone like Mike Tyson just because of the fact that Ngannou will be fighting in the same division.

Tyson will surely not teach Ngannou to move like him but instead he will give some points to consider how to fight and behave like a boxer in the ring because the latter is not a boxer in the first place. It will be a big thing because Mike can still teach a few old tricks that can be useful in certain situations while fighting Fury in the ring. Also, stamina conservation will be a big factor.

[TopTort777]

The latest news is Mike Tyson agreed to train Ngannou in his up and coming fight against Tyson Fury, he followed his promise that he would train Ngannou if he had a boxing match coming and this is it, Ngannou had a big knock out punch if Mike can train him to polish his boxing skill and put a good timing in his punches he has a good chance of beating Tyson Fury.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-fury-francis-ngannou-30621303

With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

Yeap, Mike Tyson wont help Ngannou much. Tyson style does not suit Ngannou. His famous peek-a-boo suited Tyson for his height, speed and weight. Ngannou is almost 2m height, that peek a boo and hook/uppercuts out of nowhere will look stupid with a man of his physique. Even though experience is important, I doubt that Tyson would teach something valuable when there are dozens of boxing trainers, analytic programs and etc nowadays. Tyson only would be valuable in Ngannou corner at the fight day by giving advices.

[tokeweed]

The odds would be x100?  If that were really the case then point me a bookie where they offer Ngannou to win via KO at R1 with those odds.    That would def be a sweet deal and a super +EV bet.  And if ever there was such a line, I don't think it would last more than a few hours before the sharps start putting some money in and cause the line to move...

Let me know when bookies start giving odds on the first round KOs. Skybet has nothing yet just win, lose, draw.

Mmm..  If Jones would beat all comers at the UFC HW division, he's prolly be open to a cross promotion match up like the UFC almost did with Amanda Nunes vs PFL's women's 145 champ Kayla Harrison.  But Nunes ended up losing that match vs Pena so the match up with Harrison was scrapped.  But yeah...  Could happen if the timing and possible reward from such an event are right.

But if not, I'm fine seeing Pavlovich fight Jones then Aspinall.  I think Aspinall will be the future of UFC HW.  Overall great guy, good fighter and smart.

Hopefully Dana is up for at least considering fighting Francis. Francis has taken a stake in the PFL as far as I'm concerned so I'm not sure if he will ever leave it and given Jones has 7 fights left on his contract I'm not sure we'll ever see it. Jones might not even make it to 7 fights given his age and lack of opponents. I'm sure he will fight Aspinal next year if he keeps winning.

Props usually get picked up first by these guys who work in this site...

https://www.proboxingodds.com/

So just go to the site every now and then.  Maybe around a month before the event some books start getting added for the props market.

And I wasn't aware Jon Jones has 7 fights in his contract.  That's a lot for a UFC fighter.  It's usually just three fights and they renegotiate with the fighter.  But yeah, it looks like it's gonna be one of those 'what ifs' now.  Like the what if Fedor  signed with the UFC and fought peak Velasquez from way back or peak Ferguson vs Khabib.  But we already have an idea how the latter would end.  Lol.  But yeah...  You get the point.

[JollyGood]

Even with Mike Tyson in his corner I cannot see Fury losing the fight. Trainers can have a massive impact on the mindset of the fighter, it can give them a big psychological edge and we must not forget if there are two big strong men in a ring either of them is capable of hitting the other hard enough to make them fall down if they land a punch in the right place.

A combination of the poverty-stricken background that Ngannou came from and his sheer will to survive and thrive, alongside having Mike Tyson by his side is not going to be enough to beat Fury but it should make it a very interesting fight.

The latest news is Mike Tyson agreed to train Ngannou in his up and coming fight against Tyson Fury, he followed his promise that he would train Ngannou if he had a boxing match coming and this is it, Ngannou had a big knock out punch if Mike can train him to polish his boxing skill and put a good timing in his punches he has a good chance of beating Tyson Fury.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-fury-francis-ngannou-30621303

With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

[Kelvinid]

Even with Mike Tyson in his corner I cannot see Fury losing the fight. Trainers can have a massive impact on the mindset of the fighter, it can give them a big psychological edge and we must not forget if there are two big strong men in a ring either of them is capable of hitting the other hard enough to make them fall down if they land a punch in the right place.

A combination of the poverty-stricken background that Ngannou came from and his sheer will to survive and thrive, alongside having Mike Tyson by his side is not going to be enough to beat Fury but it should make it a very interesting fight.

I'm sure it's going to be an entertaining fight. Both fighters are very aggressive, especially Ngannou, who is known to be a KO artist. Mike Tyson as his coach would boost his confidence, so I'm expecting him to be the aggressor in this fight. From round 1, he can start going for a KO, as that's the only way he can win the fight since Tyson Fury is a natural boxer and knows the right technique to score if he cannot take his opponent down. So, let's see what's going to happen. As a fan, we do have our own predictions based on multiple factors we see.

[JollyGood]

Let us be in no doubt whatsoever, Ngannou can definitely take a punch and give back as good as he receives but this is different to what he is used to in his own competitive field. If logic is followed, Fury should not lose the fight and Ngannou should not win. If this goes to a points decision Fury should win. If opinions were taken on who is better placed to deliver a knockout blow then it has to be Fury.

Maybe if Ngannou is aggressive from the first round (as you stated) then he might be able to unsettle and confuse Fury. I doubt Fury will be deviate from his training though.

I'm sure it's going to be an entertaining fight. Both fighters are very aggressive, especially Ngannou, who is known to be a KO artist. Mike Tyson as his coach would boost his confidence, so I'm expecting him to be the aggressor in this fight. From round 1, he can start going for a KO, as that's the only way he can win the fight since Tyson Fury is a natural boxer and knows the right technique to score if he cannot take his opponent down. So, let's see what's going to happen. As a fan, we do have our own predictions based on multiple factors we see.

[KTChampions]

With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

Even with Mike Tyson in his corner I cannot see Fury losing the fight. Trainers can have a massive impact on the mindset of the fighter, it can give them a big psychological edge and we must not forget if there are two big strong men in a ring either of them is capable of hitting the other hard enough to make them fall down if they land a punch in the right place.

A combination of the poverty-stricken background that Ngannou came from and his sheer will to survive and thrive, alongside having Mike Tyson by his side is not going to be enough to beat Fury but it should make it a very interesting fight.

Are you writing contradictory things or am I not understanding something? There is always a chance for a lucky punch, and as they say above, if Tyson teaches Ngannou some tricks, then his chances will become even a little higher. It seems to me that Ngannou should bet precisely on this - he will give his best in the first two rounds, having previously perfected a couple of simple combinations. If he does not win at the beginning of the fight, then you can not even watch the fight further.

[JollyGood]

No contradiction  

Lennox Lewis vs Hasim Rahman is a perfect example. Two big strong men in the ring have the ability to win by virtue of connecting one solid punch and winning by way of knockout. It does not mean the favourite will win and it does not mean the best will win. I do however expect Fury to win.

Are you writing contradictory things or am I not understanding something? There is always a chance for a lucky punch, and as they say above, if Tyson teaches Ngannou some tricks, then his chances will become even a little higher. It seems to me that Ngannou should bet precisely on this - he will give his best in the first two rounds, having previously perfected a couple of simple combinations. If he does not win at the beginning of the fight, then you can not even watch the fight further.

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With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

Even with Mike Tyson in his corner I cannot see Fury losing the fight. Trainers can have a massive impact on the mindset of the fighter, it can give them a big psychological edge and we must not forget if there are two big strong men in a ring either of them is capable of hitting the other hard enough to make them fall down if they land a punch in the right place.

A combination of the poverty-stricken background that Ngannou came from and his sheer will to survive and thrive, alongside having Mike Tyson by his side is not going to be enough to beat Fury but it should make it a very interesting fight.

Are you writing contradictory things or am I not understanding something? There is always a chance for a lucky punch, and as they say above, if Tyson teaches Ngannou some tricks, then his chances will become even a little higher. It seems to me that Ngannou should bet precisely on this - he will give his best in the first two rounds, having previously perfected a couple of simple combinations. If he does not win at the beginning of the fight, then you can not even watch the fight further.

That lucky punch will just be considered a lucky punch but yes Francis can win if Fury will no longer be able to get up. Mike can contribute to what Francis can learn from now on. I do think the confidence of Francis will be lifted because of Mike Tyson on his side.

Somehow one reason to admire Francis is that he always wants to prove himself to the people who doubted him and although this might just be one of the most unprecedented, he might be able to make it with just one lucky punch.  

[TopTort777]

Do you guys think that Francis Ngannou gas tank will be enough to run 12 rounds? Somehow doubts that he will have enough stamina for the whole fights start to raise in my head. We rarely seen him having long fights. His explosive fighting style consumes a lot of energy. While Fury, despite his lifestyle and body, can easily go for long fights. I dont think that we would see a lucky punch in this fight. Fury is a professional boxer, a champion with huge experience background. A lucky punch has so little chance to be in this fight, that imho it is better consider chances of it to be close to zero.

[Dave1]

Do you guys think that Francis Ngannou gas tank will be enough to run 12 rounds? Somehow doubts that he will have enough stamina for the whole fights start to raise in my head. We rarely seen him having long fights. His explosive fighting style consumes a lot of energy. While Fury, despite his lifestyle and body, can easily go for long fights. I dont think that we would see a lucky punch in this fight. Fury is a professional boxer, a champion with huge experience background. A lucky punch has so little chance to be in this fight, that imho it is better consider chances of it to be close to zero.

I also doubt that he will have a gas tank ready for full 12 rounds against the best version of Tyson Fury. We've seen Nate Diaz against Jake Paul and it seems that Diaz has losing his legs and stamina as the round goes by.

And if you look at Francis body, it is not built to go to distance in fight, he has huge body and could be tiring at the end of round 3 because he has to carry that weight and muscles. And as compare to Fury who has been training his whole life to go 12 rounds if necessary. So if this fight goes to distance, then Fury has a better chance to win by a knockout.

[Queentoshi]

And if you look at Francis body, it is not built to go to distance in fight, he has huge body and could be tiring at the end of round 3 because he has to carry that weight and muscles. And as compared to Fury who has been training his whole life to go 12 rounds if necessary. So, if this fight goes to distance, then Fury has a better chance to win by a knockout.

Francis Ngannou is a black man who has a name to make in this fight. Black men especially those that are raised in the difficult conditions of Africa like Francis who was raised in a village in Cameroon can do more than expected when it comes to physical activities that they are motivated to accomplish. Francis can win this fight with the right amount of self-motivation and tactics. He is being trained by a very big fighter in boxing Mike Tyson, so we can say he will be very well prepared for the fight as he will learn also from the experience of Mike.

[Yaunfitda]

And if you look at Francis body, it is not built to go to distance in fight, he has huge body and could be tiring at the end of round 3 because he has to carry that weight and muscles. And as compared to Fury who has been training his whole life to go 12 rounds if necessary. So, if this fight goes to distance, then Fury has a better chance to win by a knockout.

Francis Ngannou is a black man who has a name to make in this fight. Black men especially those that are raised in the difficult conditions of Africa like Francis who was raised in a village in Cameroon can do more than expected when it comes to physical activities that they are motivated to accomplish. Francis can win this fight with the right amount of self-motivation and tactics. He is being trained by a very big fighter in boxing Mike Tyson, so we can say he will be very well prepared for the fight as he will learn also from the experience of Mike.

I guess the question is whether he can stay int he fight and has a lot of gas tank left. It's not a question on how he was raised and as we all know that this athletes are well gifted.

So that will be the strategy I guess, tire him, and then Fury going for the kill later.

Or the said of Francis, if they know that they can't last in this fight, look for an early knockout and punch the hell out of Fury.

[tokeweed]

Even with Mike Tyson in his corner I cannot see Fury losing the fight. Trainers can have a massive impact on the mindset of the fighter, it can give them a big psychological edge and we must not forget if there are two big strong men in a ring either of them is capable of hitting the other hard enough to make them fall down if they land a punch in the right place.

A combination of the poverty-stricken background that Ngannou came from and his sheer will to survive and thrive, alongside having Mike Tyson by his side is not going to be enough to beat Fury but it should make it a very interesting fight.

The latest news is Mike Tyson agreed to train Ngannou in his up and coming fight against Tyson Fury, he followed his promise that he would train Ngannou if he had a boxing match coming and this is it, Ngannou had a big knock out punch if Mike can train him to polish his boxing skill and put a good timing in his punches he has a good chance of beating Tyson Fury.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-fury-francis-ngannou-30621303

With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

The 'Mike Tyson with Ngannou's corner' thing looks like it's just a gimmick to get more eyes in the build up for the event.  Mike Tyson is a house hold name, wouldn't hurt to pay him whatever his fee is and have him around you during press conferences, open work outs and what not.

When it was announced that he was gonna be with Ngannou, the vids of Steven Seagal 'teaching' Anderson Silva the front kick suddenly popped in my mind.  It could be exactly the same thing.  I mean at the end of it all, Fury vs Ngannou is an expensive dog and pony show.

[TopTort777]

Even with Mike Tyson in his corner I cannot see Fury losing the fight. Trainers can have a massive impact on the mindset of the fighter, it can give them a big psychological edge and we must not forget if there are two big strong men in a ring either of them is capable of hitting the other hard enough to make them fall down if they land a punch in the right place.

A combination of the poverty-stricken background that Ngannou came from and his sheer will to survive and thrive, alongside having Mike Tyson by his side is not going to be enough to beat Fury but it should make it a very interesting fight.

The latest news is Mike Tyson agreed to train Ngannou in his up and coming fight against Tyson Fury, he followed his promise that he would train Ngannou if he had a boxing match coming and this is it, Ngannou had a big knock out punch if Mike can train him to polish his boxing skill and put a good timing in his punches he has a good chance of beating Tyson Fury.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-fury-francis-ngannou-30621303

With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

The 'Mike Tyson with Ngannou's corner' thing looks like it's just a gimmick to get more eyes in the build up for the event.  Mike Tyson is a house hold name, wouldn't hurt to pay him whatever his fee is and have him around you during press conferences, open work outs and what not.

When it was announced that he was gonna be with Ngannou, the vids of Steven Seagal 'teaching' Anderson Silva the front kick suddenly popped in my mind.  It could be exactly the same thing.  I mean at the end of it all, Fury vs Ngannou is an expensive dog and pony show.

I laughed so hard right now that all got attention of every colleague at the office. I almost forgot about that vid But jokes aside, Seagal helped train Brazilian mixed martial artist Lyoto Machida, who credited Seagal for helping him perfect the front kick that he used to knock out Randy Couture at UFC 129 in May 2011.

Anyway, Tyson in the corner looks better than aikido expert in mma fighters corner. Aikido seems completely useless in contact combat sport, because its goals are to protect and dont let attacker get injured. Completely opposite what fighters want. Tyson could only prepare Ngannou mentally, because he is a boxer, not a coach. That is it. Dont know what he can suggest during training? Only keep pushing Ngannou for more reps or rounds.

[KTChampions]

No contradiction  

Lennox Lewis vs Hasim Rahman is a perfect example. Two big strong men in the ring have the ability to win by virtue of connecting one solid punch and winning by way of knockout. It does not mean the favourite will win and it does not mean the best will win. I do however expect Fury to win.

Are you writing contradictory things or am I not understanding something? There is always a chance for a lucky punch, and as they say above, if Tyson teaches Ngannou some tricks, then his chances will become even a little higher. It seems to me that Ngannou should bet precisely on this - he will give his best in the first two rounds, having previously perfected a couple of simple combinations. If he does not win at the beginning of the fight, then you can not even watch the fight further.

Ok! But it seems to me that this is just an example in favor of the fact that even a dominant boxer can lose to an accidental blow - I think no one doubts that Lenox dominated until that blow.

That lucky punch will just be considered a lucky punch but yes Francis can win if Fury will no longer be able to get up. Mike can contribute to what Francis can learn from now on. I do think the confidence of Francis will be lifted because of Mike Tyson on his side.

Somehow one reason to admire Francis is that he always wants to prove himself to the people who doubted him and although this might just be one of the most unprecedented, he might be able to make it with just one lucky punch.  

No matter what the punch is, even if Fury slips and falls to the uppercut himself, a win is a win. Since this fight will somehow be official, then someone will write 1 on their record, and someone 0. But for me it will still remain a shameful circus (on Fury’s part) that chickened out and deprived the audience of the unification fight.

[coin-investor]

The 'Mike Tyson with Ngannou's corner' thing looks like it's just a gimmick to get more eyes in the build up for the event.  Mike Tyson is a house hold name, wouldn't hurt to pay him whatever his fee is and have him around you during press conferences, open work outs and what not.

When it was announced that he was gonna be with Ngannou, the vids of Steven Seagal 'teaching' Anderson Silva the front kick suddenly popped in my mind.  It could be exactly the same thing.  I mean at the end of it all, Fury vs Ngannou is an expensive dog and pony show.

You've got to give credit to Mike Tyson he is involved with these two fighters one fighter was named after him and he has a close association with the other fighter so getting him involved will add spice to the event, we never know but Mike could be involved in a thrash talk too, you know the Furys they want to hype any events where they are involved so we'll see in the press conferences if there's going to be thrash talks.
But I'm sure people will watch this not only for the boxing but for the dramas that come along with it.

[btc_angela]

The 'Mike Tyson with Ngannou's corner' thing looks like it's just a gimmick to get more eyes in the build up for the event.  Mike Tyson is a house hold name, wouldn't hurt to pay him whatever his fee is and have him around you during press conferences, open work outs and what not.

When it was announced that he was gonna be with Ngannou, the vids of Steven Seagal 'teaching' Anderson Silva the front kick suddenly popped in my mind.  It could be exactly the same thing.  I mean at the end of it all, Fury vs Ngannou is an expensive dog and pony show.

You've got to give credit to Mike Tyson he is involved with these two fighters one fighter was named after him and he has a close association with the other fighter so getting him involved will add spice to the event, we never know but Mike could be involved in a thrash talk too, you know the Furys they want to hype any events where they are involved so we'll see in the press conferences if there's going to be thrash talks.
But I'm sure people will watch this not only for the boxing but for the dramas that come along with it.

Ok, thanks for this info, that's why I hear or read that says Iron Mike says that this fight is not lopsided as majority has been thinking because he will be in the corner of Francis Ngannou.

So it's a good hype for this fight, and they need a lot of it. Boxing fans are not totally sold on Francis Ngannou fighting Tyson Fury as his first fight as pro boxing. Yes, he could have the power,  but Fury is known to have a good chin and good defense that I doubt that Francis can land a solid blow.

[TopTort777]

You've got to give credit to Mike Tyson he is involved with these two fighters one fighter was named after him and he has a close association with the other fighter so getting him involved will add spice to the event, we never know but Mike could be involved in a thrash talk too, you know the Furys they want to hype any events where they are involved so we'll see in the press conferences if there's going to be thrash talks.
But I'm sure people will watch this not only for the boxing but for the dramas that come along with it.

It might turn that Mike will be the one to trashtalk with Fury, because I think Francis English level isnt good enough to parry creative insults and jokes that Fury gonna throw. Fury is a master of making fun of his opponents. And if you are not a native speaker, it will be hard not to lose that battle. How long Francis has been studying English? Probably around 5 years. It will be hard for Francis to parry something like "three piece and a soda" kind of joke.