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August 23, 2023, 01:10:34 PM
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In this photo, he looks like a sumo wrestler who has lost weight  Grin
Fury, as we know, likes to relax (drinking, cocaine, obviously overeating), will he be able to return to serious boxing after these easy exhibition fights (I'm sure this is not the last show)?
It's one thing to make money easily in the circus, and another thing to return to where there is competition and a lot at stake. Maybe his weak psyche will fail again (if he decides to return at all).

That was the moment of his life when he had bipolar disorder, did not visit gym for months, took cocaine and drank 8-12 pints of beer daily Cheesy When there is beer, snacks and other unhealthy food is always near. So not a miracle that he has got such a huge lifebuoy around his waist instead of belt Cheesy

The internet has even worse photos of his being not in best shape.


(picture of Fury in 2018)

But I dont care much about how he looks. Most important for me is how he knocks people out Cheesy And with a man of his complexity, it seems impossible to look like Apollon, have 6pack and be slim. He is more like a caveman, so having fat is ok for him Cheesy

Yes, I know about that period and understand the reasons for such an appearance, but it is still surprising that at such a weight (even if he was able to get rid of it later) he had a decent speed.
And yet, I'm more interested in the question of prospects - he is already 35 years old, let's say he spends a couple of years on circus fights and preparing for some serious fight ... what can he show at 37? Usually athletes who do not lead a healthy lifestyle with age dramatically lose in shape.

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August 23, 2023, 01:19:28 PM
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Seem a bit of a fair match though. Mike is older but boxing is his playground while Fedor is younger but he is fighting in a boxing ring. This fight will be a good undercard for Francis vs Fury as it will also make a huge crowd in the arena. The promotion will be glad to welcome them.
Why on earth they need to fight, Fedor Emelianenko just needs to retire for good and never return to fight as he was knocked out left and right by non strikers after returning to MMA and why anyone would think this will be a good match up against Mike Tyson.

Ngannou vs Fury hype had slowed down to which it really going to need help. What they will need is more UFC fighters crossing to make a lot of people interested in the result.
Was there a hype from the real fight fans, i really do not think so, anyone who watches any combat sport knows that if Francis Ngannou is able to land a single punch against Tyson Fury, it will be considered as a win  Cheesy. My interest in this fight is to see in which round Francis Ngannou gasses out trying to punch the air  Cheesy.
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August 25, 2023, 02:20:20 AM
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Also, this will be the body that will put the Predator on a stretcher.



That is wrong picture of body to "put Predator on a stretcher". That is the photo of Fury before his second fight against Wladimir Klitschko, which was cancelled because of lack of motivation from Fury. Lack of motivation caused him to gain and weighed 150kg. Current Fury is more slim, if that word can be used speaking about him, as he is still fat and huge Cheesy https://www.instagram.com/p/CvaEPGlqN_1/ - this is perhaps his latest shape (posted 2w ago). If he would be as fat as on your picture, he would not move so smooth Cheesy

Hehehehe I reckon Tyson Fury might not need much motivation to knockout the Predator Ngannou. This will be the first time a mixed martial arts fighter beat a veteran boxer if Francis Ngannou gets a lucky victory. However, let's please live in reality. Will the best heavyweight boxer be beaten by a mixed martial artist in boxing? This has never occured in all these fights that we have witnessed and this might never occur.

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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.


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That was the moment of his life when he had bipolar disorder, did not visit gym for months, took cocaine and drank 8-12 pints of beer daily Cheesy When there is beer, snacks and other unhealthy food is always near. So not a miracle that he has got such a huge lifebuoy around his waist instead of belt Cheesy

The internet has even worse photos of his being not in best shape.


(picture of Fury in 2018)

But I dont care much about how he looks. Most important for me is how he knocks people out Cheesy And with a man of his complexity, it seems impossible to look like Apollon, have 6pack and be slim. He is more like a caveman, so having fat is ok for him Cheesy

For sure this is the moment in Tyson Furry's life where he is so down, There is a point when people will surely experience this in his life and for sure he has already gotten through this in his life and has gotten on with this kind of problem for sure Drugs is not really helpful and will surely get the start of the downfall for anyone experiencing it,


Yes, I know about that period and understand the reasons for such an appearance, but it is still surprising that at such a weight (even if he was able to get rid of it later) he had a decent speed.
And yet, I'm more interested in the question of prospects - he is already 35 years old, let's say he spends a couple of years on circus fights and preparing for some serious fight ... what can he show at 37? Usually athletes who do not lead a healthy lifestyle with age dramatically lose in shape.

I think he has already gotten through this kind of situation and surely he has regrets about it, but you can surely see his improvement right now, I just wish they were not wrong in making this fight because if Tyson Fury had a bad day or if he is having a negative mindset entering this fight then likely Francis Ngannou could win this fights for sure
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August 25, 2023, 10:35:00 AM
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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

And that is why Francis and Mike Tyson has appeared in podcasts already as he is training Francis. Maybe he can just give him words of wisdom in this fight, but it will be totally different when Francis and Tyson Fury are in the ring as no one will help Ngannou there.

Maybe early we will see Ngannou getting the better of Tyson Fury, but we all know that Fury has also been in the best boxers in the ring and we have seen the he has the mental fortitude, so for me, Francis might have some time and pushing Tyson Fury, but it the end Fury might be the one winning by a knockout.

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August 25, 2023, 10:54:06 AM
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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

And that is why Francis and Mike Tyson has appeared in podcasts already as he is training Francis. Maybe he can just give him words of wisdom in this fight, but it will be totally different when Francis and Tyson Fury are in the ring as no one will help Ngannou there.

Maybe early we will see Ngannou getting the better of Tyson Fury, but we all know that Fury has also been in the best boxers in the ring and we have seen the he has the mental fortitude, so for me, Francis might have some time and pushing Tyson Fury, but it the end Fury might be the one winning by a knockout.

What you're seeing now is just part of the drama. They want to sell this fight and make people believe that Ngannou has a good chance of winning. But in reality, it will be a one-sided beatdown by Fury in the actual fight. Why do I say that? Because Fury is a boxing champion; he's the best in the heavyweight division. Are we really expected to believe that he'll lose to a UFC superstar?

This is more like Mayweather vs McGregor. We had hype surrounding that fight, but it ended up with Mayweather easily winning.
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Seem a bit of a fair match though. Mike is older but boxing is his playground while Fedor is younger but he is fighting in a boxing ring. This fight will be a good undercard for Francis vs Fury as it will also make a huge crowd in the arena. The promotion will be glad to welcome them.
Why on earth they need to fight, Fedor Emelianenko just needs to retire for good and never return to fight as he was knocked out left and right by non strikers after returning to MMA and why anyone would think this will be a good match up against Mike Tyson.
It's not even confirmed that it will happen and so there is no reason for you to be stressed out Cheesy But if you want reasons, you might not want to see it but I'm sure that there are some people out there that is interested to see this specially because of the fact that the legend, Mike Tyson, is involved with it.


Ngannou vs Fury hype had slowed down to which it really going to need help. What they will need is more UFC fighters crossing to make a lot of people interested in the result.
Was there a hype from the real fight fans, i really do not think so, anyone who watches any combat sport knows that if Francis Ngannou is able to land a single punch against Tyson Fury, it will be considered as a win  Cheesy. My interest in this fight is to see in which round Francis Ngannou gasses out trying to punch the air  Cheesy.
I guess there is because they are even considering to put Mike Tyson and Fedor in the undercard to secure a good event that will give them competitive profits at the end of the day. Again, you might just want to sit this out mate.

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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

And that is why Francis and Mike Tyson has appeared in podcasts already as he is training Francis. Maybe he can just give him words of wisdom in this fight, but it will be totally different when Francis and Tyson Fury are in the ring as no one will help Ngannou there.

Maybe early we will see Ngannou getting the better of Tyson Fury, but we all know that Fury has also been in the best boxers in the ring and we have seen the he has the mental fortitude, so for me, Francis might have some time and pushing Tyson Fury, but it the end Fury might be the one winning by a knockout.

I definitely think that Tyson Fury is a little too old for this. And it will definitely be a better fight from Francis. I know that Francis is an MMA fighter. But he has so much power that if he even talks to someone that guy is definitely going to be dead. So even though he is fighting the Gypsy King, I think Francis is going to be the winner.



What you're seeing now is just part of the drama. They want to sell this fight and make people believe that Ngannou has a good chance of winning. But in reality, it will be a one-sided beatdown by Fury in the actual fight. Why do I say that? Because Fury is a boxing champion; he's the best in the heavyweight division. Are we really expected to believe that he'll lose to a UFC superstar?

This is more like Mayweather vs McGregor. We had hype surrounding that fight, but it ended up with Mayweather easily winning.

Wait really? I am a little surprised because so far I have seen Francis Ngannou fighting other MMA fighters, and if he somehow even hit them with his pinky finger, those fighters are still going down. I genuinely think that he has a good chance of winning this fight. Of course, he’s fighting the Gypsy King, Tyson Fury. But let’s also remember that Tyson Fury is pretty old.

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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

I have already mentioned that Mike Tyson's presence in Francis Ngannou's team is something similar to Steven Seagull's presence in Anderson Silva's training before Anderson's fight vs. another Brazilian. According to Seagull, he was the one who taught Anderson the special front kick move to knockout his opponent. However, this was only done to promote the fight. Anderson did not really need Steven Seagull's teachings hehehehe.

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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

I have already mentioned that Mike Tyson's presence in Francis Ngannou's team is something similar to Steven Seagull's presence in Anderson Silva's training before Anderson's fight vs. another Brazilian. According to Seagull, he was the one who taught Anderson the special front kick move to knockout his opponent. However, this was only done to promote the fight. Anderson did not really need Steven Seagull's teachings hehehehe.

Aikido has nothing to do with kicking but Anderson will always be remembered for how he did it against Belfort. Anderson doesn't need help from Steven, I don't know why Anderson tried training with him when Belfort is no threat to him in any way. But Ngannou against the baddest HW boxer, he certainly needs every bit of strategy.

By how Ngannou will end the fight, it will still be the influence due to the confidence given to the people who trained him whether Mike helped or not, it's still going to give him the confidence.



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August 26, 2023, 03:37:00 PM
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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

I have already mentioned that Mike Tyson's presence in Francis Ngannou's team is something similar to Steven Seagull's presence in Anderson Silva's training before Anderson's fight vs. another Brazilian. According to Seagull, he was the one who taught Anderson the special front kick move to knockout his opponent. However, this was only done to promote the fight. Anderson did not really need Steven Seagull's teachings hehehehe.

Yeah, I think that is just for promotion, whether on the side of Seagull or Silva's fight. But I disagree about the comparison though. First, Mike Tyson has the experience to teach Francis Ngannou style in boxing. Second, Tyson doesn't need some attention though, he has been in the limelight and has his own podcast and could have been making money for him.
And with that, who knows, maybe Francis will learn something from Tyson that could help him in this fight. Or Francis reverting back to his old style once he got hit by Tyson Fury and immediately lose his strategy and focus and from what he learn from Mike.

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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

I have already mentioned that Mike Tyson's presence in Francis Ngannou's team is something similar to Steven Seagull's presence in Anderson Silva's training before Anderson's fight vs. another Brazilian. According to Seagull, he was the one who taught Anderson the special front kick move to knockout his opponent. However, this was only done to promote the fight. Anderson did not really need Steven Seagull's teachings hehehehe.

Aikido has nothing to do with kicking but Anderson will always be remembered for how he did it against Belfort. Anderson doesn't need help from Steven, I don't know why Anderson tried training with him when Belfort is no threat to him in any way. But Ngannou against the baddest HW boxer, he certainly needs every bit of strategy.

By how Ngannou will end the fight, it will still be the influence due to the confidence given to the people who trained him whether Mike helped or not, it's still going to give him the confidence.



Mike Tyson might have helped Francis Ngannou similar to how Steven Seagal helped Anderson Silva. To help in hyping the fight and to sell more tickets hehehe. Mike Tyson was an idol to many older fans of boxing. This might be their target market for this fight because younger fans might not be very excited for this. Younger fans like to watch Tank Davis and King Ry more than Tyson Fury, I reckon.

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August 27, 2023, 04:51:35 PM
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Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

I have already mentioned that Mike Tyson's presence in Francis Ngannou's team is something similar to Steven Seagull's presence in Anderson Silva's training before Anderson's fight vs. another Brazilian. According to Seagull, he was the one who taught Anderson the special front kick move to knockout his opponent. However, this was only done to promote the fight. Anderson did not really need Steven Seagull's teachings hehehehe.

Aikido has nothing to do with kicking but Anderson will always be remembered for how he did it against Belfort. Anderson doesn't need help from Steven, I don't know why Anderson tried training with him when Belfort is no threat to him in any way. But Ngannou against the baddest HW boxer, he certainly needs every bit of strategy.

By how Ngannou will end the fight, it will still be the influence due to the confidence given to the people who trained him whether Mike helped or not, it's still going to give him the confidence.



Mike Tyson might have helped Francis Ngannou similar to how Steven Seagal helped Anderson Silva. To help in hyping the fight and to sell more tickets hehehe. Mike Tyson was an idol to many older fans of boxing. This might be their target market for this fight because younger fans might not be very excited for this. Younger fans like to watch Tank Davis and King Ry more than Tyson Fury, I reckon.

I think that's one way to look at it and yes it might be a part of their marketing plan to set up a much successful fight because Ngannou is not that famous in the boxing world as he did come from another industry and so it will be common that some fans will think that this fight is no brainer at all because how would a fighter defeat a boxer inside the boxing ring when he have no experience about it nor have enough knowledge to at least survive without having a huge embarrassment. Either way, I still think that Mike Tyson lend a hand to help Ngannou because the latter might have some trainings in basic boxing but not that deep to actually fight someone like Tyson Fury.

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@Maslate. I very much agree. Francis Ngannou is also not a very good trashtalker. The fans are shaking their heads on why uncle Dana will not let Ngannou fight in boxing, however, they never considered that it would be difficult for Dana to market Ngannou. He is not similar to Conor who was known everywhere outside of MMA already. Ngannou is not and he does not have the right personality for this. However, do you know who has the right personality? It will be Suga Sean. He will be supported by uncle Dana next to challenge someone in boxing. According to Suga Sean, it will be Tank Davis.

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August 28, 2023, 06:45:59 AM
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That was the moment of his life when he had bipolar disorder, did not visit gym for months, took cocaine and drank 8-12 pints of beer daily Cheesy When there is beer, snacks and other unhealthy food is always near. So not a miracle that he has got such a huge lifebuoy around his waist instead of belt Cheesy

The internet has even worse photos of his being not in best shape.


(picture of Fury in 2018)

But I dont care much about how he looks. Most important for me is how he knocks people out Cheesy And with a man of his complexity, it seems impossible to look like Apollon, have 6pack and be slim. He is more like a caveman, so having fat is ok for him Cheesy

Yes, I know about that period and understand the reasons for such an appearance, but it is still surprising that at such a weight (even if he was able to get rid of it later) he had a decent speed.
And yet, I'm more interested in the question of prospects - he is already 35 years old, let's say he spends a couple of years on circus fights and preparing for some serious fight ... what can he show at 37? Usually athletes who do not lead a healthy lifestyle with age dramatically lose in shape.

Tyson Fury has never had a healthy lifestyle and I've never seen ripped Fury after all but there was a time when he tried and still he looked chubby because he has a lot of subcutaneous fat and it's very hard to get rid of it, plus, as far as I remember, he said he isn't that disciplined and can't say no to tasty foods. To summarize, he doesn't want to put the effort to lose weight and get ripped because it brings absolutely zero value to him and he is not a person who cares about looks. So, he eats whatever he wants and has fun.
The fact is, he beats people, he beats everyone, he beats people who dedicate their life to training and diet, who constantly look at numbers on computers to check their conditions and every statistics.

Tyson Fury is a pure talent. In the world of sport, there are talents and athletes. Talents don't need to train much and eat limited, they are naturally talented, their body and mind is built for the sport they compete in. But athletes, they are just average humans who want to become successful in certain sport and they train all the time and follow diet to get as good result as possible. And there are a lot of examples of that in every sport, like in football, we know that Messi is a talent and Ronaldo is an athlete.

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Tyson Fury has never had a healthy lifestyle and I've never seen ripped Fury after all but there was a time when he tried and still he looked chubby because he has a lot of subcutaneous fat and it's very hard to get rid of it, plus, as far as I remember, he said he isn't that disciplined and can't say no to tasty foods. To summarize, he doesn't want to put the effort to lose weight and get ripped because it brings absolutely zero value to him and he is not a person who cares about looks. So, he eats whatever he wants and has fun.
The fact is, he beats people, he beats everyone, he beats people who dedicate their life to training and diet, who constantly look at numbers on computers to check their conditions and every statistics.


He might just think of how good is he even if he didn't do something about his weight, The dude still has the power to knockout heavyweights and that's all he needs since he already proved it against Wilder thrice. Now that he looks heavier than before, I don't think he will be that serious when he fights Ngannou because he is full of himself and thinks the guy is an easy fight. well! we can't really understand how Fury thinks since he always finds his way to win every fight. let's just see how will it turn out this time.

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@Maslate. I very much agree. Francis Ngannou is also not a very good trashtalker. The fans are shaking their heads on why uncle Dana will not let Ngannou fight in boxing, however, they never considered that it would be difficult for Dana to market Ngannou. He is not similar to Conor who was known everywhere outside of MMA already. Ngannou is not and he does not have the right personality for this. However, do you know who has the right personality? It will be Suga Sean. He will be supported by uncle Dana next to challenge someone in boxing. According to Suga Sean, it will be Tank Davis.

If it's a circus fight just to entertain the crowd then maybe there is a chance that will happen but if it's a professional bout like the main event, I don't think that Tank Davis will bother nor give some interesting in fighting Suga Sean. Yes it will be a good marketing strategy but that will only take effect once Suga Sean will find that boxer who will agree to fight with him, you know, just for the sake of the money without having something on the line.

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Tyson Fury has never had a healthy lifestyle and I've never seen ripped Fury after all but there was a time when he tried and still he looked chubby because he has a lot of subcutaneous fat and it's very hard to get rid of it, plus, as far as I remember, he said he isn't that disciplined and can't say no to tasty foods. To summarize, he doesn't want to put the effort to lose weight and get ripped because it brings absolutely zero value to him and he is not a person who cares about looks. So, he eats whatever he wants and has fun.
The fact is, he beats people, he beats everyone, he beats people who dedicate their life to training and diet, who constantly look at numbers on computers to check their conditions and every statistics.


He might just think of how good is he even if he didn't do something about his weight, The dude still has the power to knockout heavyweights and that's all he needs since he already proved it against Wilder thrice. Now that he looks heavier than before, I don't think he will be that serious when he fights Ngannou because he is full of himself and thinks the guy is an easy fight. well! we can't really understand how Fury thinks since he always finds his way to win every fight. let's just see how will it turn out this time.

We can also say that he was just being on himself, just like Nikola Jokic of the Denver Nuggets. The man doesn't really care about the training and everything that involves physical preparation because he also loved to eat unhealthy foods including softdrinks but still, at the end of the day, the man still wins and others cannot even do anything about it even if they will pour every seconds of their time to prepare against him and his team.

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August 28, 2023, 05:58:03 PM
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Tyson Fury has never had a healthy lifestyle and I've never seen ripped Fury after all but there was a time when he tried and still he looked chubby because he has a lot of subcutaneous fat and it's very hard to get rid of it, plus, as far as I remember, he said he isn't that disciplined and can't say no to tasty foods. To summarize, he doesn't want to put the effort to lose weight and get ripped because it brings absolutely zero value to him and he is not a person who cares about looks. So, he eats whatever he wants and has fun.
The fact is, he beats people, he beats everyone, he beats people who dedicate their life to training and diet, who constantly look at numbers on computers to check their conditions and every statistics.

Tyson Fury is a pure talent. In the world of sport, there are talents and athletes. Talents don't need to train much and eat limited, they are naturally talented, their body and mind is built for the sport they compete in. But athletes, they are just average humans who want to become successful in certain sport and they train all the time and follow diet to get as good result as possible. And there are a lot of examples of that in every sport, like in football, we know that Messi is a talent and Ronaldo is an athlete.

Well, after the fight he will likely do and eat a burger for sure just like what he did with his fight with Dillian Whyte he also gave Dillian Whyte a burger which Whyte said he couldn't eat because he got bad teeth that were destroyed during the fight so for sure it was a terrible idea for Tyson Fury in getting Whyte to eat his favorite, but for sure it was how Tyson Fury just do things he will likely train hard but his body fat is still likely there, well I don't really want to body shame at all that is why,


He might just think of how good is he even if he didn't do something about his weight, The dude still has the power to knockout heavyweights and that's all he needs since he already proved it against Wilder thrice. Now that he looks heavier than before, I don't think he will be that serious when he fights Ngannou because he is full of himself and thinks the guy is an easy fight. well! we can't really understand how Fury thinks since he always finds his way to win every fight. let's just see how will it turn out this time.

For sure every boxer has an imprint that they will likely still be good with the boxing department even though he is not that fitted to fight, his movement and brain have likely remembered most of the moves he previously had, so even though Tyson Fury is not fit to fight he would likely still got a chance that he will knockout every boxing fighter for sure,

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