[Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26

[Kemarit]

And I guess it takes a champion to recognized a talent, like what Pacman was in his prime years. And now that he is retired, he might have somewhat see himself in the young Inoue that's why he appreciates what the Japanese has done and there are fans that compare the two even though it's too early to see what will happen to Inoue in the next 5-10 years.

If Casimero will get a fight, then good for him, he needs to be busy and just focus on his boxing career and then next year probably target a fight with Inoue or someone rank boxer to inch closer for a world title fight.

Casimero's journey to face Inoue might take longer because his ranking is not yet close to that of the champion. So, you are right; he still needs to fight more to become a strong contender. While Inoue might be occupied with his pursuit of becoming an undisputed champion, we never know whether he will remain in the division after achieving his goal or if he will move up again, leaving Casimero with no chance of fighting the Beast.

Tapales' decision is very crucial here. If he wants to pursue the undisputed fight, his reign as a champion may not last long, and the scenario you mentioned might not actually materialize. As we all know, Inoue is attempting to capitalize on his peak, so it wouldn't make sense for him to remain in the current division if he becomes an undisputed champion. Although his camp mentioned that they will have more fights in the super bantamweight before moving up, I doubt they'll stick to that plan once Inoue attains undisputed champion status.

I think he's playing with his card (Tapales). Money is more important now if he wanted to have that decent amount of money
fighting Inoue with a good amount of shares will easily give him the fortune.

In terms of protecting his current belts, it's really tough to defend as there are challengers that will come and chase the belts from him if ever
he will not proceed and let Inoue unify the belts right away.

Play with your opportunity and allow that money to flow, win or lose if he takes Inoue, sure there is more money than
to whoever he will choose to fight.

The pressure will be on the side of Inoue here, I mean he is on laser target to unify the belt at super bantamweight and to be the second boxer to become a 2 time unified champion. If Tapales walks away from the negotiations because they offer him less money that they are expecting then the fault is on Inoue's camp. Tapales can have other options and get the money that he wanted, he can rematch Akhmadaliev. But the risk is that if he losses that belt, then he won't be able to face Inoue again. But let's see how the Inoue's will respond to this claim, maybe his handlers will realised that it was a big mistake to low ball Tapales in this fight or maybe they just testing his camp and waiting for their reaction.

[Casdinyard]

Anyway, I agree with your words that Inoue do truly have an advantage over Tapales and just like what happened to Inoue at 188, it seems to me as well that after he fought and defeated Fulton, I don't see anyone at 122 that can give Inoue a good fight and he might be an undisputed boxer again without trying his very hard to achieve it. Unless if Casimero will catch up because I definitely think that he is a much better fit compared to Tapales, no offense.

As far as I know, Angas ng Pinas is also in that Division.  The same thought as you, I believe that Casimer can give a better fight than Tapales and Casimero had been provoking Inoue to have a match after their failed match way back when there was a pandemic.  Fulton maybe the champion but there are also newcomers in that Division and one of them is Casimero.

Though I agree that Tapales is a heavy underdog if the match realizes, Tapales have two hands to punch too.  We never know until an upset happens and it often happens in boxing. We have seen too many of these upset wins to be recalled.

Yeah but we can only rely on upsets for so much. Just cause it happened way too often doesn't mean it will happen everytime. The fact of the matter is that Inoue could take punches as much as he could deal it, and if Tapales' only saving grace is a well-placed smack in the jaw, then I say he better practice and prepare for it cause no way Inoue's going to let him be that close to beating him. I wanted to see this fight through with enough action and all that but Tapales' is at a disadvantage in stats with a tactical advantage over Inoue. He has nothing to lose but so much to gain, the same can't be said for Inoue who had this undefeated record and is still in his prime. Hope both teams bring their A-Game to this fight.

I wont really say that Tapales isnt capable on doing such thing yet we cant really be able to see him on owning or holding those belts for nothing.If Casimero is much better than Tapales then he should really be the ones holding those belts in the first place. Checking out on this site https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings You would see that they are now on the same weight division which is on 122 or on superbantam weight.
I dont know on what are the exact reasons why this fight hadnt been able to push through or it could really be able to happen but of course Inoue would really be focusing on getting those belts of Tapales
to be an another undisputed champion on this current division. Dont know on why Inoue is really that trying out to avoid or not really that interested at all.

Don't get me wrong I know for sure that Tapales' got something to prove, he won those belts for a reason as you have said. But judging by how Inoue's not showing any signs of stopping, with a tank of a body and a ballistic missile of a fist all I'm saying is that Tapales is going to have a really hard time pinning the Japanese down, at least based on the comment of the person before me talking about how Tapales' only saving grace is a hail mary punch, which I doubt but it makes sense when you think about it. Add to this the fact that Tapales' camp already said they weren't confident about winning this match and we have a game where the challenger is at his full capacity and the champion is going to do nothing but stall the fight for as long as he could.

[lionheart78]

Pacman is just being honest right there there is nothing wrong with it. Inoue is indeed rare. He earned his credentials in impressive ways. Became the world champion in his 6th fight, a 2-division champion in his 8th fight, undisputed at bantamweight, and a 4-division champion at 30 years old. He is very unique in his own way and Pacman had nothing but huge appreciation.

As for Casimero, it is really good that he gets a fight before the end of the year. He should fight with or without Inoue in order for him to stay sharp and disciplined.

There is news that Tapales visited Manny Pacquiao to have some advice from the 8-division champ.  Manny Pacquiao advices tapales to train harder and work on his footwork.

While their unification super-bantamweight title fight has yet to be finalized, Pacquiao nonetheless didn’t mind imparting his know-how.

“He told me to use footwork and train very hard,” Tapales said after meeting with the boxing legend accompanied by his promoter JC Mananquil and chief trainer Ernel Fontanilla.

Read more at: https://sports.tribune.net.ph/2023/08/04/pacquiao-to-tapales-use-footwork-vs-inoue/

I think this advice if followed by Tapales can give him a better chance of evading Inoue's devastating punches and at the same time give him possible open angle to launch attach or counters.

[goaldigger]

Pacman is just being honest right there there is nothing wrong with it. Inoue is indeed rare. He earned his credentials in impressive ways. Became the world champion in his 6th fight, a 2-division champion in his 8th fight, undisputed at bantamweight, and a 4-division champion at 30 years old. He is very unique in his own way and Pacman had nothing but huge appreciation.

As for Casimero, it is really good that he gets a fight before the end of the year. He should fight with or without Inoue in order for him to stay sharp and disciplined.

There is news that Tapales visited Manny Pacquiao to have some advice from the 8-division champ.  Manny Pacquiao advices tapales to train harder and work on his footwork.

That can be a big help but I'm sure many strategist already studied the movement of Inoue and how he fight but still, he remains undefeated so this will still be a big challenge for Tapales to beat Inoue. There's a chance though if he is able to work on those footwork and have a good combinations of punches as well, Pacman seeing both boxer as a great one can be a big booster. I'm looking for Tapales to win over Inoue and revenge all the Filipino boxer who bows down against Inoue, this can be a big opportunity for him.

[serjent05]

That can be a big help but I'm sure many strategist already studied the movement of Inoue and how he fight but still, he remains undefeated so this will still be a big challenge for Tapales to beat Inoue. There's a chance though if he is able to work on those footwork and have a good combinations of punches as well, Pacman seeing both boxer as a great one can be a big booster. I'm looking for Tapales to win over Inoue and revenge all the Filipino boxer who bows down against Inoue, this can be a big opportunity for him.

Let's just hope that Tapales develop speed and quickness which is way faster than Inoue.  If Tapales can't surpass the speed of Inoue, no matter how good his footwork is, he will always get caught open.  Tapales must develop quicker jabs, faster straight punches and uppercut punches, and timed evasion making Inoue open due to missing punches.  It may be a very hard task but if Tapales really wanted to have a higher chance of winning then he must do it.  There may be a way where he doesn't need these adjustments, and that is, to be able to absorb Inoue's punches and have the devastating punches that can render Inoue incapable of continuing the fight.

If there are no changes in the ability of Tapales, I don't see him winning the fight against Inoue.

[Pamadar]

Pacman is just being honest right there there is nothing wrong with it. Inoue is indeed rare. He earned his credentials in impressive ways. Became the world champion in his 6th fight, a 2-division champion in his 8th fight, undisputed at bantamweight, and a 4-division champion at 30 years old. He is very unique in his own way and Pacman had nothing but huge appreciation.

As for Casimero, it is really good that he gets a fight before the end of the year. He should fight with or without Inoue in order for him to stay sharp and disciplined.

There is news that Tapales visited Manny Pacquiao to have some advice from the 8-division champ.  Manny Pacquiao advices tapales to train harder and work on his footwork.

That can be a big help but I'm sure many strategist already studied the movement of Inoue and how he fight but still, he remains undefeated so this will still be a big challenge for Tapales to beat Inoue. There's a chance though if he is able to work on those footwork and have a good combinations of punches as well, Pacman seeing both boxer as a great one can be a big booster. I'm looking for Tapales to win over Inoue and revenge all the Filipino boxer who bows down against Inoue, this can be a big opportunity for him.

I think there's an impact on him mentally, with that advice he will do everything to improve his footworks and if he will manage to review all those Inoue previous fights, he can start learn from it.

This opportunity to fight Inoue and unify all the belts is something that may change his career forever,
if by chance he disappoints Inoue knowing that he's the heavy favorite here, Tapales will surely enjoy
the luxury life is a little like how Pacquiao is enjoying himself.

[harizen]

Let's just hope that Tapales develop speed and quickness which is way faster than Inoue.  If Tapales can't surpass the speed of Inoue, no matter how good his footwork is, he will always get caught open.  Tapales must develop quicker jabs, faster straight punches and uppercut punches, and timed evasion making Inoue open due to missing punches.  It may be a very hard task but if Tapales really wanted to have a higher chance of winning then he must do it.  There may be a way where he doesn't need these adjustments, and that is, to be able to absorb Inoue's punches and have the devastating punches that can render Inoue incapable of continuing the fight.

If there are no changes in the ability of Tapales, I don't see him winning the fight against Inoue.

Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

[Yaunfitda]

Pacman is just being honest right there there is nothing wrong with it. Inoue is indeed rare. He earned his credentials in impressive ways. Became the world champion in his 6th fight, a 2-division champion in his 8th fight, undisputed at bantamweight, and a 4-division champion at 30 years old. He is very unique in his own way and Pacman had nothing but huge appreciation.

As for Casimero, it is really good that he gets a fight before the end of the year. He should fight with or without Inoue in order for him to stay sharp and disciplined.

There is news that Tapales visited Manny Pacquiao to have some advice from the 8-division champ.  Manny Pacquiao advices tapales to train harder and work on his footwork.

That can be a big help but I'm sure many strategist already studied the movement of Inoue and how he fight but still, he remains undefeated so this will still be a big challenge for Tapales to beat Inoue. There's a chance though if he is able to work on those footwork and have a good combinations of punches as well, Pacman seeing both boxer as a great one can be a big booster. I'm looking for Tapales to win over Inoue and revenge all the Filipino boxer who bows down against Inoue, this can be a big opportunity for him.

Yes, because there are no blueprint on how to beat him, the closest that we can see him being defeated is in the first Donaire dight. But as you can see, he improved a lot from time fight and it's very quick improvement that we all forget how close Donaire was beating him in that fight and we have given Nonito a chance in the rematch but clearly the Monster been improving.

So it's very difficult for Tapales and his team t have a good strategy even if they are close in the ring and watching his fight against Fulton. I think one way to beat Inoue is that you should be the taller guy with a good length and jab of course so that you can keep him at bay. But still you can be a target of Inoue's power punching your body so it the later round you might be soften already and Inoue can deliver that knockout. And Tapales doesn't have the height and reach advantage against Inoue.

[bisdak40]

Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

This fight is for Inoue no matter how good or bad Tapales is. The thing here is that Tapales should be compensated the right amount for being the holder of the two belts as Inoue won't be a unified champion if he won't fight Tapales or the latter will fought another boxer so the dream of Inoue to be a 2-division unified champion will take some time or may not happen anymore.

[bbc.reporter]

@Lanatsa. Pacman is not being a traitor against his own countrymen. In the ambush interview, what Pacman told the interviewer was he wanted to help Inoue and teach him his secrets on how he carried his strength, speed, power and stamina when he has fighting in higher weight divisions. He wants everyone to witness someone greater than him in boxing, I reckon.

I thought Pacman is only willing to help if in case Inoue will move up to other divisions again? Anyways, Pacman once again was caught in another ambush interview during the Crawford-Spence event, the legend mentioned Crawford as the new #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world replacing Inoue but he also said that Inoue remains his favorite guy. https://www.facebook.com/IFLTV/videos/617315163875941

Meanwhile, according to a local source, Team Tapales is not happy with Naoya Inoue's offers. And just a few days ago, 3 division champion Johnreil Casimero started training again in his town. Casimero looked very heavy at the moment so hopefully, he continues his light training as he might be Inoue's next opponent late this year. It could be that Tapales is not happy with the money presented on the table but it is possible that both sides are bluffing at this early stage of their negotiations. Tapales if he won't face Inoue next might face a mandatory either from the WBA or the IBF. A rematch against former champion Morudjon Akhmadaliev for the WBA mandatory or IBF's mandatory Sam Goodan of Australia might be a high-risk low reward for Tapales should he not come to an agreement with Inoue.

Yes I am quite certain Pacman offered his services if will move up to a heavier weight division again. However, if he was telling the interviewer that he would help in Inoue's training for the fight against Tapales, I would be very skeptical this heheheh. I might put money on Tapales hehhehee.

On Tapales not happy with team Inoue's offer, this is part of negotiations. The team of Tapales knows that Inoue needs the IBF and WBA championships because the Japanese boxer is chasing history.

On Inoue vs. Casimero, if the money is not enough, I reckon Inoue will chase history again and challenge the champions in featherweight.

[Jating]

@Lanatsa. Pacman is not being a traitor against his own countrymen. In the ambush interview, what Pacman told the interviewer was he wanted to help Inoue and teach him his secrets on how he carried his strength, speed, power and stamina when he has fighting in higher weight divisions. He wants everyone to witness someone greater than him in boxing, I reckon.

I thought Pacman is only willing to help if in case Inoue will move up to other divisions again? Anyways, Pacman once again was caught in another ambush interview during the Crawford-Spence event, the legend mentioned Crawford as the new #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world replacing Inoue but he also said that Inoue remains his favorite guy. https://www.facebook.com/IFLTV/videos/617315163875941

Meanwhile, according to a local source, Team Tapales is not happy with Naoya Inoue's offers. And just a few days ago, 3 division champion Johnreil Casimero started training again in his town. Casimero looked very heavy at the moment so hopefully, he continues his light training as he might be Inoue's next opponent late this year. It could be that Tapales is not happy with the money presented on the table but it is possible that both sides are bluffing at this early stage of their negotiations. Tapales if he won't face Inoue next might face a mandatory either from the WBA or the IBF. A rematch against former champion Morudjon Akhmadaliev for the WBA mandatory or IBF's mandatory Sam Goodan of Australia might be a high-risk low reward for Tapales should he not come to an agreement with Inoue.

Yes I am quite certain Pacman offered his services if will move up to a heavier weight division again. However, if he was telling the interviewer that he would help in Inoue's training for the fight against Tapales, I would be very skeptical this heheheh. I might put money on Tapales hehhehee.

On Tapales not happy with team Inoue's offer, this is part of negotiations. The team of Tapales knows that Inoue needs the IBF and WBA championships because the Japanese boxer is chasing history.

On Inoue vs. Casimero, if the money is not enough, I reckon Inoue will chase history again and challenge the champions in featherweight.

Negotiations has started with the Tapales group, and as what we have been reading it's not good offer from the inoue team. For sure, if Inoue is chasing greatness, then they should offer good money to Tapales and not disrespect him as a champion.

One Inoue vs Casimero, if Inoue wanted to stay at super bantamweight and if by chance Casimero become somewhat of the mandatory challenger, then for sure Inoue will give up to the pressure of fighting Casimero as this has been one of the most anticipated ever since their bantamweight days.

[Sanitough]

Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

This fight is for Inoue no matter how good or bad Tapales is. The thing here is that Tapales should be compensated the right amount for being the holder of the two belts as Inoue won't be a unified champion if he won't fight Tapales or the latter will fought another boxer so the dream of Inoue to be a 2-division unified champion will take some time or may not happen anymore.

That's right, Tapales earned that by winning the championship, so he deserves to have a good payday in an undisputed boxing match. It's not just about the money; it's mostly about pride. No boxer who is already a champion and holds 2 belts would accept a very low purse. I stand by Tapales' decision here; it's not about who the more popular boxer is, but rather the worth of their current titles.

If Inoue does not agree to Tapales' demand, then the undisputed fight won't happen, resulting in both of them missing out on a good earning opportunity. There haven't been any developments yet about the news, but hopefully, they'll provide an update soon because the fight is expected to take place this year.

[btc_angela]

Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

This fight is for Inoue no matter how good or bad Tapales is. The thing here is that Tapales should be compensated the right amount for being the holder of the two belts as Inoue won't be a unified champion if he won't fight Tapales or the latter will fought another boxer so the dream of Inoue to be a 2-division unified champion will take some time or may not happen anymore.

That's right, Tapales earned that by winning the championship, so he deserves to have a good payday in an undisputed boxing match. It's not just about the money; it's mostly about pride. No boxer who is already a champion and holds 2 belts would accept a very low purse. I stand by Tapales' decision here; it's not about who the more popular boxer is, but rather the worth of their current titles.

And that is what we are saying, he holds the other 2 belts that is important for Inoue to become a unified champion again. So Tapales deserves a good pay check here. It might not be like 50:50 as Inoue is the A-side, but at least a good to decent offer from them.

If Inoue does not agree to Tapales' demand, then the undisputed fight won't happen, resulting in both of them missing out on a good earning opportunity. There haven't been any developments yet about the news, but hopefully, they'll provide an update soon because the fight is expected to take place this year.

If might not happen the soonest. If Inoue will defend his belt and then Tapales rematches Akhmadaliev, then I think that is still a good match. Nevertheless, they have to win both of their fight to stay in the collision course for next year.

[Viscore]

Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

This fight is for Inoue no matter how good or bad Tapales is. The thing here is that Tapales should be compensated the right amount for being the holder of the two belts as Inoue won't be a unified champion if he won't fight Tapales or the latter will fought another boxer so the dream of Inoue to be a 2-division unified champion will take some time or may not happen anymore.

That's right, Tapales earned that by winning the championship, so he deserves to have a good payday in an undisputed boxing match. It's not just about the money; it's mostly about pride. No boxer who is already a champion and holds 2 belts would accept a very low purse. I stand by Tapales' decision here; it's not about who the more popular boxer is, but rather the worth of their current titles.

And that is what we are saying, he holds the other 2 belts that is important for Inoue to become a unified champion again. So Tapales deserves a good pay check here. It might not be like 50:50 as Inoue is the A-side, but at least a good to decent offer from them.

I believe that would already be considered becoming an undisputed champion, not just a unified one. Essentially, both fighters would hold 2 belts each, and if Inoue were to win, he would possess 4 belts. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

A 50:50 share should be reasonable, but a split of 45:55 could also be acceptable. Anything below 45% might be too low for Tapales' camp to consider.

Given the likelihood that Tapales will probably lose, it would be wise to be strategic and view this as an opportunity to maximize income. So, a share no lower than 45% would make sense.

If Inoue does not agree to Tapales' demand, then the undisputed fight won't happen, resulting in both of them missing out on a good earning opportunity. There haven't been any developments yet about the news, but hopefully, they'll provide an update soon because the fight is expected to take place this year.

If might not happen the soonest. If Inoue will defend his belt and then Tapales rematches Akhmadaliev, then I think that is still a good match. Nevertheless, they have to win both of their fight to stay in the collision course for next year.

Inoue will be facing challengers, which seems like a waste of time for him since it's evident that he will win. However, if he were to fight against Casimero, whom the fans are still expecting to see him dance with the ring, I believe that would truly excite the crowd.

[carlisle1]

Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

This fight is for Inoue no matter how good or bad Tapales is. The thing here is that Tapales should be compensated the right amount for being the holder of the two belts as Inoue won't be a unified champion if he won't fight Tapales or the latter will fought another boxer so the dream of Inoue to be a 2-division unified champion will take some time or may not happen anymore.

That's right, Tapales earned that by winning the championship, so he deserves to have a good payday in an undisputed boxing match. It's not just about the money; it's mostly about pride. No boxer who is already a champion and holds 2 belts would accept a very low purse. I stand by Tapales' decision here; it's not about who the more popular boxer is, but rather the worth of their current titles.

If Inoue does not agree to Tapales' demand, then the undisputed fight won't happen, resulting in both of them missing out on a good earning opportunity. There haven't been any developments yet about the news, but hopefully, they'll provide an update soon because the fight is expected to take place this year.

We never know if it's for real or it's just another way to bring more attention to this possible upcoming fight,
it's also possible that they are getting that attention to bring more hype.

But I like that opinion, Tapales earned it after winning that title fight and since he's holding 2 belts, he deserves to get that
share even Inoue is more popular than him.

More on how both camps will discuss this concern and how they will settle it to bring the fight into reality.

[BitcoinPanther]

And that is what we are saying, he holds the other 2 belts that is important for Inoue to become a unified champion again. So Tapales deserves a good pay check here. It might not be like 50:50 as Inoue is the A-side, but at least a good to decent offer from them.

I believe that would already be considered becoming an undisputed champion, not just a unified one. Essentially, both fighters would hold 2 belts each, and if Inoue were to win, he would possess 4 belts. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

A 50:50 share should be reasonable, but a split of 45:55 could also be acceptable. Anything below 45% might be too low for Tapales' camp to consider.

Given the likelihood that Tapales will probably lose, it would be wise to be strategic and view this as an opportunity to maximize income. So, a share no lower than 45% would make sense.

I agree, the Tapales camp should be greedy on the price money now.  Irrespective on how they got the belt, they have 2 belt each and Inoue's dream of becoming undisputed will not happen if Tapales camp refuse to make a deal.  I think Tapales camp should be wise this time, maximizing a one time opportunity to rake huge amount in the fight, if possible I would strive for 55-45 (Tapales - Inoue) pot.  After all Inoue is the one aiming for being undisputed.

If Inoue does not agree to Tapales' demand, then the undisputed fight won't happen, resulting in both of them missing out on a good earning opportunity. There haven't been any developments yet about the news, but hopefully, they'll provide an update soon because the fight is expected to take place this year.

If might not happen the soonest. If Inoue will defend his belt and then Tapales rematches Akhmadaliev, then I think that is still a good match. Nevertheless, they have to win both of their fight to stay in the collision course for next year.

Inoue will be facing challengers, which seems like a waste of time for him since it's evident that he will win. However, if he were to fight against Casimero, whom the fans are still expecting to see him dance with the ring, I believe that would truly excite the crowd.

Speaking of Casimero, there are some news that he will be facing a former world champion Kokuni Yojo on October.  It was announced on one of the live Vlog of the brother of Casimero, Jason Casimero.

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Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

This fight is for Inoue no matter how good or bad Tapales is. The thing here is that Tapales should be compensated the right amount for being the holder of the two belts as Inoue won't be a unified champion if he won't fight Tapales or the latter will fought another boxer so the dream of Inoue to be a 2-division unified champion will take some time or may not happen anymore.

That's right, Tapales earned that by winning the championship, so he deserves to have a good payday in an undisputed boxing match. It's not just about the money; it's mostly about pride. No boxer who is already a champion and holds 2 belts would accept a very low purse. I stand by Tapales' decision here; it's not about who the more popular boxer is, but rather the worth of their current titles.

If Inoue does not agree to Tapales' demand, then the undisputed fight won't happen, resulting in both of them missing out on a good earning opportunity. There haven't been any developments yet about the news, but hopefully, they'll provide an update soon because the fight is expected to take place this year.

We never know if it's for real or it's just another way to bring more attention to this possible upcoming fight,
it's also possible that they are getting that attention to bring more hype.

It's possible, but we never heard the camp of Inoue debunking what Tapales and his team has said in the public. So for me that is a sign that this might be true. That they offered the team of Tapales a money not deserving for them.

But I like that opinion, Tapales earned it after winning that title fight and since he's holding 2 belts, he deserves to get that
share even Inoue is more popular than him.

More on how both camps will discuss this concern and how they will settle it to bring the fight into reality.

We can't argue that Inoue is the more popular fighter between the two and if the fight is held in Japan then for sure he can bring his fans to watch the fight and fill the Saitama Arena again. But they should also respect that Tapales is also a 2 belt fighter, not just a ordinary challenger for them.

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Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

This fight is for Inoue no matter how good or bad Tapales is. The thing here is that Tapales should be compensated the right amount for being the holder of the two belts as Inoue won't be a unified champion if he won't fight Tapales or the latter will fought another boxer so the dream of Inoue to be a 2-division unified champion will take some time or may not happen anymore.

That's right, Tapales earned that by winning the championship, so he deserves to have a good payday in an undisputed boxing match. It's not just about the money; it's mostly about pride. No boxer who is already a champion and holds 2 belts would accept a very low purse. I stand by Tapales' decision here; it's not about who the more popular boxer is, but rather the worth of their current titles.

If Inoue does not agree to Tapales' demand, then the undisputed fight won't happen, resulting in both of them missing out on a good earning opportunity. There haven't been any developments yet about the news, but hopefully, they'll provide an update soon because the fight is expected to take place this year.

We never know if it's for real or it's just another way to bring more attention to this possible upcoming fight,
it's also possible that they are getting that attention to bring more hype.

But I like that opinion, Tapales earned it after winning that title fight and since he's holding 2 belts, he deserves to get that
share even Inoue is more popular than him.

More on how both camps will discuss this concern and how they will settle it to bring the fight into reality.

Turns out that they are really just that too greedy with money and asking out a bigger slice of the pie and trying out not to make out some good sharing in between Tapales just because they are much popular than him?
It is really just that right that Tapales team wont really be that pushing through the fight if they wont really be getting the fair share on which they are really that pushing that they are really that much more worth or have the right on getting bigger which we know that Tapales is indeed a champion too on which he does have the right on getting a fair share since he's holding two belts too on which it is really just that normal that he would be getting that nor equal or not really just that too far off on whats his position and not really just Inoue's camp is really getting the bigger slice which its totally not fair at all.Whether we do like it or not then it would really be depending on Tapales team if they would be able to push or demand on what should really be theirs too and if these two teams cant really understand nor having no agreement with these numbers then it wont push through which it is really just that sad knowing that this fight is already that been anticipated. It is really just that because of revenue or profit sharing kind of conflict which a good fight or must awaited
wont really be able to proceed on.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Let's say Marlon Tapales really developed and improved his speed, expect that the same goes for Naoya Inoue.

Surpassing Inoue at almost the entire of the Japanese monster advantages is really tough. We can't expect a big development for Tapales within just several months as to surpass Inoue at anything, it needs boxing experience. Beating Inoue though will really bring something big for Tapales. I hope that will be the reason for Tapales to fuel his determination to win.

For me, not being a bullsh*t here but I really don't see a way how Tapales will beat Naoya Inoue. It's not the same as Pacquiao being the heavy underdog during their fight against the prime Marco Antonio Barrera. But still, I will support my countrymen here and expect that something special will happened in their fight.

This fight is for Inoue no matter how good or bad Tapales is. The thing here is that Tapales should be compensated the right amount for being the holder of the two belts as Inoue won't be a unified champion if he won't fight Tapales or the latter will fought another boxer so the dream of Inoue to be a 2-division unified champion will take some time or may not happen anymore.

That's right, Tapales earned that by winning the championship, so he deserves to have a good payday in an undisputed boxing match. It's not just about the money; it's mostly about pride. No boxer who is already a champion and holds 2 belts would accept a very low purse. I stand by Tapales' decision here; it's not about who the more popular boxer is, but rather the worth of their current titles.

If Inoue does not agree to Tapales' demand, then the undisputed fight won't happen, resulting in both of them missing out on a good earning opportunity. There haven't been any developments yet about the news, but hopefully, they'll provide an update soon because the fight is expected to take place this year.

We never know if it's for real or it's just another way to bring more attention to this possible upcoming fight,
it's also possible that they are getting that attention to bring more hype.

But I like that opinion, Tapales earned it after winning that title fight and since he's holding 2 belts, he deserves to get that
share even Inoue is more popular than him.

More on how both camps will discuss this concern and how they will settle it to bring the fight into reality.

This fight is quite interesting, I personally like it when it's about Inoue, it doesn't matter if things happen with Tapales or someone else, as long as it's about him the fights are interesting, it's not to detract from Tapales , but here things go much further, everyone goes to what Tapales says or publishes, but it will be difficult for him to beat Inoue, so things can happen as usual, which is said to be Get involved with Inouer and then Inoue can win even by knockout, mainly things can happen like this, it's that for me Inoue is one of the greatest in boxing.

Now the things they can do here is that Inoue can make him a highly valued boxer, and that's why now they want it to happen, then:

Bob Arum says Gervonta Davis vs. Naoya Inoue is “stupid” idea

By Allan Fox: Promoter Bob Arum thinks it’s a “stupid” idea that was floated recently by Floyd Mayweather Jr. for Naoya Inoue to move up in weight to fight that much larger Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis at a catchweight. Arum says Tank Davis is essentially a 140-pounder at this point in his career and much too big for ‘Monster’ Inoue (25-0, 22 KOs), who just recently moved up to 122 to dethrone WBC & WBO super bantamweight champion Stephen Fulton. Arum said if Inoue is going to move up in weight again, it would be to go to 126 to challenge WBO featherweight champion Robeisy Ramirez, who is arguably the best fighter in that division today.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/bob-arum-says-gervonta-davis-vs-naoya-inoue-is-stupid-idea/

Anyway this gets kind of hot when it comes to Inoue, because for some like Mayweather they want to do the best boxing events, but boxing speculation and everything to do with boxing and Inoue events draws attention. So we are not surprised that they are looking for the best against him, Inoue also entered this category stomping hard, Fulton was beaten by Fulton who wants revenge, so now with Tapales, possibly later against Davis and personally it does not seem stupid to me , but everyone has their own way of thinking and seeing things in other ways , so Everyone is free to think as they want.

We can't argue that Inoue is the more popular fighter between the two and if the fight is held in Japan then for sure he can bring his fans to watch the fight and fill the Saitama Arena again. But they should also respect that Tapales is also a 2 belt fighter, not just a ordinary challenger for them.

I do not Doubt this, I think that things can Happen in Many Ways , he is a boxer who has two belts, but by putting him with Inopue and I beat him, for him he has to continue Fighting with others who are Very famous, already They said that they would Kill Inoue if they fought him , the other is that those fights between those famous Boxers who Talk so much about looking through their Camp for the fight to take place, it's very easy to say things , but it's different when in They really want the fight to happen, I do want things to happen with these boxers , just because I like how Inoue shuts them up When he Wins and even more so if They go to their Land in Japan.

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@Lanatsa. Pacman is not being a traitor against his own countrymen. In the ambush interview, what Pacman told the interviewer was he wanted to help Inoue and teach him his secrets on how he carried his strength, speed, power and stamina when he has fighting in higher weight divisions. He wants everyone to witness someone greater than him in boxing, I reckon.

I thought Pacman is only willing to help if in case Inoue will move up to other divisions again? Anyways, Pacman once again was caught in another ambush interview during the Crawford-Spence event, the legend mentioned Crawford as the new #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world replacing Inoue but he also said that Inoue remains his favorite guy. https://www.facebook.com/IFLTV/videos/617315163875941

Meanwhile, according to a local source, Team Tapales is not happy with Naoya Inoue's offers. And just a few days ago, 3 division champion Johnreil Casimero started training again in his town. Casimero looked very heavy at the moment so hopefully, he continues his light training as he might be Inoue's next opponent late this year. It could be that Tapales is not happy with the money presented on the table but it is possible that both sides are bluffing at this early stage of their negotiations. Tapales if he won't face Inoue next might face a mandatory either from the WBA or the IBF. A rematch against former champion Morudjon Akhmadaliev for the WBA mandatory or IBF's mandatory Sam Goodan of Australia might be a high-risk low reward for Tapales should he not come to an agreement with Inoue.

Yes I am quite certain Pacman offered his services if will move up to a heavier weight division again. However, if he was telling the interviewer that he would help in Inoue's training for the fight against Tapales, I would be very skeptical this heheheh. I might put money on Tapales hehhehee.

On Tapales not happy with team Inoue's offer, this is part of negotiations. The team of Tapales knows that Inoue needs the IBF and WBA championships because the Japanese boxer is chasing history.

On Inoue vs. Casimero, if the money is not enough, I reckon Inoue will chase history again and challenge the champions in featherweight.

Negotiations has started with the Tapales group, and as what we have been reading it's not good offer from the inoue team. For sure, if Inoue is chasing greatness, then they should offer good money to Tapales and not disrespect him as a champion.

Yes, that happened that is why we aren't hearing any news yet about the possibility of this fight because a discussion will be impossible to start with if they cannot find a way to agree with a certain deal. Tapales already assumed that it will be 60/40 deal but not that low just like what they have said, he too deserved to earn much profits from this fight because Tapales is also a champion, a 2-belt champion.

One Inoue vs Casimero, if Inoue wanted to stay at super bantamweight and if by chance Casimero become somewhat of the mandatory challenger, then for sure Inoue will give up to the pressure of fighting Casimero as this has been one of the most anticipated ever since their bantamweight days.

Hopefully this much awaited fight will happen much sooner mate before Inoue leaves 122 because if that will happen, a fight between them will be impossible to happen.