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September 09, 2023, 05:07:05 PM
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One of the things that most excites me about this boxer is that he is when it comes to challenges, rematches, and above all when there is a belt or something similar, well, he assumes it and prepares himself with more intensity, perhaps the fact of being a A very disciplined person and that is what marks him out compared to others, I want to see this fight and see what kind of strategy Tapales will use, but where I went, my strategy was to be on the defensive, make him get tired and counterattack, because the truth is I can't think of any strategy against him, because he really is a boxer who can quickly read the other boxer's plan, and I think that is also the intelligence he uses, and that is quite difficult for some, For me, boxing is 80% intelligence and 20% effort with the body, however, what you train the most is your body to resist the blows that you are going to receive.


It is the advantage of Inoue. He anticipates his opponent's strategy and adjusts things at the right timing.

If he sees that he can absorb his opponent's attack, then expect him to be more aggressive. I used to remember the first fight against
Donaire where after being almost taken down.

When he manages to get up and compose his self, that the time he really become aggressive and really attacks the most, then
he earned that fight a win.
The first fight against Donaire, it was the last time that we have seen Inoue almost lost the fight. It was a hard fought give and take and he absorbs all what Donaire can bring to the point that he suffered a broken orbital bone and yet he pushes for the fight and win it.

But there are fans or even boxers who thought that Inoue lost that fight. If I'm not mistaken, Roy Jones Jr was one of them. I remember as well though, that Jone is a big fan of Donaire so he might be biased on that.

I think that is why a rematch has took place and that is to end all the issues once and for all, eventually, it was a 2-0 in favor of Inoue and Donaire haven't even had the chance to rally back and regain a momentum because he didn't anticipated the fact that he will face a much stronger and unpredictable Inoue who finished their fight in just like a whim. Although years have passed before their rematch but it's all the same to me, Donaire's good but his years are already over.

It's a shame that Donaire is a boxer that he didn't appreciate as he was, it's also that when compared to Inoue's career it's not anything, it's known that Inoue is literally a Monster when fighting, and he's also very very intelligent. So an Inoue with a Donaire is a big advantage, really, and I would think that right now Inoue is at a level of boxing where he can beat any boxer who comes his way, of course I say this because of what he has been demonstrating at all times. Personally, for me, Inoue cannot be compared to Donaire. Regarding Donaire, I think he needs to train a lot. I'm not saying because of his age, I'm saying it because of him, because of the things he can develop, as I have said on many occasions. , I am one of those who think that a boxer wins his fights at the time of his training, and if the training is stronger, more intense than that of the other boxer, then he will win, otherwise I believe that in a fight, unless If something extraordinary happens to the other person, they can win, but that rarely happens.

It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.

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September 10, 2023, 12:00:51 PM
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It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.

Good point and it's valid, if they met during Donaire's prime I can also agree that it might be a different outcome, just look what happened from the first met Donaire coming from a long vacation and almost beat that prime Inoue.

The rematch might seem to be dominated by Inoue, as expected, since he already knew what Donaire can do
and he's well prepared for what Donaire can bring, and just easily counter him and bring him down.
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September 10, 2023, 12:43:37 PM
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It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.

Good point and it's valid, if they met during Donaire's prime I can also agree that it might be a different outcome, just look what happened from the first met Donaire coming from a long vacation and almost beat that prime Inoue.

Fight gonna be fantasy though, I mean they met when Donaire might be in the sunset of his career. But yeah, maybe a prime Donaire that destroys everyone at bantamweight, or even a prime Inoue, it might be a different story. Donaire's weaknesses is fighting taller guy or moving up in weight class.
But if he remains at bantawmeight and fight smaller guys than him, he will have a good chance that he is going to knock that opponent out with either left hook or his upper cut.
The landscape though is very different for Inoue now, he is at the prime years and it's hard to see him beaten by Tapales here, IMHO.

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September 11, 2023, 12:23:55 AM
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One of the things that most excites me about this boxer is that he is when it comes to challenges, rematches, and above all when there is a belt or something similar, well, he assumes it and prepares himself with more intensity, perhaps the fact of being a A very disciplined person and that is what marks him out compared to others, I want to see this fight and see what kind of strategy Tapales will use, but where I went, my strategy was to be on the defensive, make him get tired and counterattack, because the truth is I can't think of any strategy against him, because he really is a boxer who can quickly read the other boxer's plan, and I think that is also the intelligence he uses, and that is quite difficult for some, For me, boxing is 80% intelligence and 20% effort with the body, however, what you train the most is your body to resist the blows that you are going to receive.


It is the advantage of Inoue. He anticipates his opponent's strategy and adjusts things at the right timing.

If he sees that he can absorb his opponent's attack, then expect him to be more aggressive. I used to remember the first fight against
Donaire where after being almost taken down.

When he manages to get up and compose his self, that the time he really become aggressive and really attacks the most, then
he earned that fight a win.
The first fight against Donaire, it was the last time that we have seen Inoue almost lost the fight. It was a hard fought give and take and he absorbs all what Donaire can bring to the point that he suffered a broken orbital bone and yet he pushes for the fight and win it.

But there are fans or even boxers who thought that Inoue lost that fight. If I'm not mistaken, Roy Jones Jr was one of them. I remember as well though, that Jone is a big fan of Donaire so he might be biased on that.

I think that is why a rematch has took place and that is to end all the issues once and for all, eventually, it was a 2-0 in favor of Inoue and Donaire haven't even had the chance to rally back and regain a momentum because he didn't anticipated the fact that he will face a much stronger and unpredictable Inoue who finished their fight in just like a whim. Although years have passed before their rematch but it's all the same to me, Donaire's good but his years are already over.

It's a shame that Donaire is a boxer that he didn't appreciate as he was, it's also that when compared to Inoue's career it's not anything, it's known that Inoue is literally a Monster when fighting, and he's also very very intelligent. So an Inoue with a Donaire is a big advantage, really, and I would think that right now Inoue is at a level of boxing where he can beat any boxer who comes his way, of course I say this because of what he has been demonstrating at all times. Personally, for me, Inoue cannot be compared to Donaire. Regarding Donaire, I think he needs to train a lot. I'm not saying because of his age, I'm saying it because of him, because of the things he can develop, as I have said on many occasions. , I am one of those who think that a boxer wins his fights at the time of his training, and if the training is stronger, more intense than that of the other boxer, then he will win, otherwise I believe that in a fight, unless If something extraordinary happens to the other person, they can win, but that rarely happens.

It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.
Well, it should be noted that first of all, greetings to the people of the Philippines and yes, there is something that I admire a lot about the Filipinos, it is the material they have to train boxers like them, but it is not that I am entering a casino, not at all, but you must understand. something, to measure up to one of the greats like Inoue, he must be training already and very hard, I believe a lot in the abilities of boxers who are old, who are mature and who can obviously make the difference and get ahead of the They are very young, because they have something I already know like experience, which is why I know that when we see that there are boxers like Inoue who have shown many things, leaving all their titles just to move to the category they are in, I think that not everyone does that, and obviously it is not that Nnonito is a bad boxer, no, he is a boxer who is there and still has a lot to give, but when I make the comparison with one Inoue, with great respect I say that ' {He must train a lot to be able to face him, just like Tyson did, he was the undisputed heavyweight champion and he never gave up on his training, every day he trained as if he were going to fight someone, but why? In order not to lose shape, at the time when a fight came up, he was already very prepared.

So when he had a pending fight, he increased the level of his training, that is, that man began to train so hard that in order to have that body he could resist it, which is why he now suffers a lot from Sciatic Nerve, because his effort was far above what his body could withstand, that is what I mean by Nonito, he can be like that, in fact Filipinos have a special DNA for boxing, they are people who They have that natural talent, so the talent + training because they make super boxers, that's what Inoue does, that's why he's doing so well.

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September 11, 2023, 09:17:01 AM
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It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.

Good point and it's valid, if they met during Donaire's prime I can also agree that it might be a different outcome, just look what happened from the first met Donaire coming from a long vacation and almost beat that prime Inoue.

Fight gonna be fantasy though, I mean they met when Donaire might be in the sunset of his career. But yeah, maybe a prime Donaire that destroys everyone at bantamweight, or even a prime Inoue, it might be a different story. Donaire's weaknesses is fighting taller guy or moving up in weight class.
But if he remains at bantawmeight and fight smaller guys than him, he will have a good chance that he is going to knock that opponent out with either left hook or his upper cut.
The landscape though is very different for Inoue now, he is at the prime years and it's hard to see him beaten by Tapales here, IMHO.

It could have brought some big excitement if Inoue and Donaire had met during their prime, but we know it's not going to happen as Donaire cannot go back in time. However, in terms of popularity, I think Donaire was more popular in his time because he loved to fight in the US, where there's a huge audience for boxing. Inoue, on the other hand, has most of his fights in Japan, which has been criticized by some boxing experts, especially Floyd Mayweather.

As of now, there's no other Filipino boxer who could potentially give a good challenge to Inoue. It's not Tapales but it's Casimero.

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September 11, 2023, 11:20:59 AM
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It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.

Good point and it's valid, if they met during Donaire's prime I can also agree that it might be a different outcome, just look what happened from the first met Donaire coming from a long vacation and almost beat that prime Inoue.

Fight gonna be fantasy though, I mean they met when Donaire might be in the sunset of his career. But yeah, maybe a prime Donaire that destroys everyone at bantamweight, or even a prime Inoue, it might be a different story. Donaire's weaknesses is fighting taller guy or moving up in weight class.
But if he remains at bantawmeight and fight smaller guys than him, he will have a good chance that he is going to knock that opponent out with either left hook or his upper cut.
The landscape though is very different for Inoue now, he is at the prime years and it's hard to see him beaten by Tapales here, IMHO.

It could have brought some big excitement if Inoue and Donaire had met during their prime, but we know it's not going to happen as Donaire cannot go back in time. However, in terms of popularity, I think Donaire was more popular in his time because he loved to fight in the US, where there's a huge audience for boxing. Inoue, on the other hand, has most of his fights in Japan, which has been criticized by some boxing experts, especially Floyd Mayweather.

Yeah, but we have seen though Donaire fighting the best of the 115-118 lbs during his prime and we can say that he almost beat them all with that potent left hook of him and knocking out the best boxers, including the one infamous knockout of Darchy that carve the name of Nonito Donaire.

As of now, there's no other Filipino boxer who could potentially give a good challenge to Inoue. It's not Tapales but it's Casimero.

The closest will be Casimero, but we still don't know how the fight will be because they haven't fought yet and we don't know if they will ever will as the ball in in the court of Casimero to be impressive in the super bantamweight division before he will be given the chance to fight the champion in Inoue.
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September 11, 2023, 03:29:07 PM
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One of the things that most excites me about this boxer is that he is when it comes to challenges, rematches, and above all when there is a belt or something similar, well, he assumes it and prepares himself with more intensity, perhaps the fact of being a A very disciplined person and that is what marks him out compared to others, I want to see this fight and see what kind of strategy Tapales will use, but where I went, my strategy was to be on the defensive, make him get tired and counterattack, because the truth is I can't think of any strategy against him, because he really is a boxer who can quickly read the other boxer's plan, and I think that is also the intelligence he uses, and that is quite difficult for some, For me, boxing is 80% intelligence and 20% effort with the body, however, what you train the most is your body to resist the blows that you are going to receive.


It is the advantage of Inoue. He anticipates his opponent's strategy and adjusts things at the right timing.

If he sees that he can absorb his opponent's attack, then expect him to be more aggressive. I used to remember the first fight against
Donaire where after being almost taken down.

When he manages to get up and compose his self, that the time he really become aggressive and really attacks the most, then
he earned that fight a win.
The first fight against Donaire, it was the last time that we have seen Inoue almost lost the fight. It was a hard fought give and take and he absorbs all what Donaire can bring to the point that he suffered a broken orbital bone and yet he pushes for the fight and win it.

But there are fans or even boxers who thought that Inoue lost that fight. If I'm not mistaken, Roy Jones Jr was one of them. I remember as well though, that Jone is a big fan of Donaire so he might be biased on that.

I think that is why a rematch has took place and that is to end all the issues once and for all, eventually, it was a 2-0 in favor of Inoue and Donaire haven't even had the chance to rally back and regain a momentum because he didn't anticipated the fact that he will face a much stronger and unpredictable Inoue who finished their fight in just like a whim. Although years have passed before their rematch but it's all the same to me, Donaire's good but his years are already over.

It's a shame that Donaire is a boxer that he didn't appreciate as he was, it's also that when compared to Inoue's career it's not anything, it's known that Inoue is literally a Monster when fighting, and he's also very very intelligent. So an Inoue with a Donaire is a big advantage, really, and I would think that right now Inoue is at a level of boxing where he can beat any boxer who comes his way, of course I say this because of what he has been demonstrating at all times. Personally, for me, Inoue cannot be compared to Donaire. Regarding Donaire, I think he needs to train a lot. I'm not saying because of his age, I'm saying it because of him, because of the things he can develop, as I have said on many occasions. , I am one of those who think that a boxer wins his fights at the time of his training, and if the training is stronger, more intense than that of the other boxer, then he will win, otherwise I believe that in a fight, unless If something extraordinary happens to the other person, they can win, but that rarely happens.

It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.
Well, it should be noted that first of all, greetings to the people of the Philippines and yes, there is something that I admire a lot about the Filipinos, it is the material they have to train boxers like them, but it is not that I am entering a casino, not at all, but you must understand. something, to measure up to one of the greats like Inoue, he must be training already and very hard, I believe a lot in the abilities of boxers who are old, who are mature and who can obviously make the difference and get ahead of the They are very young, because they have something I already know like experience, which is why I know that when we see that there are boxers like Inoue who have shown many things, leaving all their titles just to move to the category they are in, I think that not everyone does that, and obviously it is not that Nnonito is a bad boxer, no, he is a boxer who is there and still has a lot to give, but when I make the comparison with one Inoue, with great respect I say that ' {He must train a lot to be able to face him, just like Tyson did, he was the undisputed heavyweight champion and he never gave up on his training, every day he trained as if he were going to fight someone, but why? In order not to lose shape, at the time when a fight came up, he was already very prepared.

So when he had a pending fight, he increased the level of his training, that is, that man began to train so hard that in order to have that body he could resist it, which is why he now suffers a lot from Sciatic Nerve, because his effort was far above what his body could withstand, that is what I mean by Nonito, he can be like that, in fact Filipinos have a special DNA for boxing, they are people who They have that natural talent, so the talent + training because they make super boxers, that's what Inoue does, that's why he's doing so well.


Every boxer is different mate, we can say that Filipinos got a different DNA to somehow keep up in the boxing industry and maintain their status while they are on the upper side and that is true, but we shouldn't forget the fact that it is somehow easy to become a champion but maintaining that same status while also leveling up is already on another level. What I'm trying to say is that everyone can dream to be a boxer but only few selected ones are born to be a star in the mentioned sports. Donaire, Pacquiao, Naoya and the guys you've mentioned are born for it because if they don't, no matter how they persevere, they will always have a limit unlike these stars.

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September 12, 2023, 10:48:57 AM
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It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.

Good point and it's valid, if they met during Donaire's prime I can also agree that it might be a different outcome, just look what happened from the first met Donaire coming from a long vacation and almost beat that prime Inoue.

Fight gonna be fantasy though, I mean they met when Donaire might be in the sunset of his career. But yeah, maybe a prime Donaire that destroys everyone at bantamweight, or even a prime Inoue, it might be a different story. Donaire's weaknesses is fighting taller guy or moving up in weight class.
But if he remains at bantawmeight and fight smaller guys than him, he will have a good chance that he is going to knock that opponent out with either left hook or his upper cut.
The landscape though is very different for Inoue now, he is at the prime years and it's hard to see him beaten by Tapales here, IMHO.

It could have brought some big excitement if Inoue and Donaire had met during their prime, but we know it's not going to happen as Donaire cannot go back in time. However, in terms of popularity, I think Donaire was more popular in his time because he loved to fight in the US, where there's a huge audience for boxing. Inoue, on the other hand, has most of his fights in Japan, which has been criticized by some boxing experts, especially Floyd Mayweather.

And I agree to those who criticized Inoue for not fighting out of his native country Japan. US is the mecca and the center of boxing, he should be a at least comfortable fighting outside, and in the US. And I do agree that even if both are in their primes, Donaire will be the more popular and he could really beat Inoue with his left hook. And Donaire's prime he was not just a slugger, but he has a high boxing IQ and good timing.

As of now, there's no other Filipino boxer who could potentially give a good challenge to Inoue. It's not Tapales but it's Casimero.

If might be a good debate though, and for sure we have been taking aboutit for years. And we can only say if it is Casimero if they really face each other in the future. Hopefully this can be done, so that we can finally this two in the ring.

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September 12, 2023, 10:56:01 AM
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As of now, there's no other Filipino boxer who could potentially give a good challenge to Inoue. It's not Tapales but it's Casimero.

The closest will be Casimero, but we still don't know how the fight will be because they haven't fought yet and we don't know if they will ever will as the ball in in the court of Casimero to be impressive in the super bantamweight division before he will be given the chance to fight the champion in Inoue.

Casimero is heavy-handed and could knock out opponents with just one punch, an attribute that Tapales doesn't have and it speaks on his record with a little above 50 percent KO wins and we have seen how Inoue staggered after he was hit by that lethal hook of Donaire so maybe if it's Casimero's punch that would touch Inoue's chin, there is a chance that the latter would go down.

So sad that until now there are no solid information yet on when the fight will be held but rest assured guys that this will push though IMHO.


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September 12, 2023, 11:08:51 AM
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As of now, there's no other Filipino boxer who could potentially give a good challenge to Inoue. It's not Tapales but it's Casimero.

The closest will be Casimero, but we still don't know how the fight will be because they haven't fought yet and we don't know if they will ever will as the ball in in the court of Casimero to be impressive in the super bantamweight division before he will be given the chance to fight the champion in Inoue.

Casimero is heavy-handed and could knock out opponents with just one punch, an attribute that Tapales doesn't have and it speaks on his record with a little above 50 percent KO wins and we have seen how Inoue staggered after he was hit by that lethal hook of Donaire so maybe if it's Casimero's punch that would touch Inoue's chin, there is a chance that the latter would go down.

So sad that until now there are no solid information yet on when the fight will be held but rest assured guys that this will push though IMHO.



Might be possible that promoters still waiting if fans will call for it, I mean, if there's no hype they will continue to delay the update
a kind of gesture to see if they will be able to bring engaging interest to the fans.

We know that it's another unification fight, a champion against another champion, but unlike with other divisions, Tapales is far from the popularity
of Inoue.

More on how all the camps will be compensated and make money in case they finalized the negotiations and bring the fight into reality.
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September 12, 2023, 11:13:11 AM
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As of now, there's no other Filipino boxer who could potentially give a good challenge to Inoue. It's not Tapales but it's Casimero.

The closest will be Casimero, but we still don't know how the fight will be because they haven't fought yet and we don't know if they will ever will as the ball in in the court of Casimero to be impressive in the super bantamweight division before he will be given the chance to fight the champion in Inoue.

Casimero is heavy-handed and could knock out opponents with just one punch, an attribute that Tapales doesn't have and it speaks on his record with a little above 50 percent KO wins and we have seen how Inoue staggered after he was hit by that lethal hook of Donaire so maybe if it's Casimero's punch that would touch Inoue's chin, there is a chance that the latter would go down.

So sad that until now there are no solid information yet on when the fight will be held but rest assured guys that this will push though IMHO.
Low chance Casimero would get that long-awaited fight against Naoya Inoue. Rankings will be the problem. But we have seen some boxers try to make the champions camp angry and get that fight that they want, it will still depend on the champion if he wants to prove something. But, the organization cannot help him because he ain't even near him.

2 ways. Make them mad and be forced to approve it. Or, get the help of the boxing fans including the popular boxing analysts to boost this fight to happen, but that will depend on Inoue's camp if they are getting itchy to have a match again.
Oh, and another way is to make it look like an act of revenge for Filipinos if ever Tapales loses this match but I don't want to assume just yet. Tapales is preparing like crazy hard on his training so we will see if there will be a change in history.
If Tapales wins, Casimero's chance to face the Monster will increase.

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September 12, 2023, 01:26:33 PM
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Low chance Casimero would get that long-awaited fight against Naoya Inoue. Rankings will be the problem. But we have seen some boxers try to make the champions camp angry and get that fight that they want, it will still depend on the champion if he wants to prove something. But, the organization cannot help him because he ain't even near him.

2 ways. Make them mad and be forced to approve it. Or, get the help of the boxing fans including the popular boxing analysts to boost this fight to happen, but that will depend on Inoue's camp if they are getting itchy to have a match again.
Oh, and another way is to make it look like an act of revenge for Filipinos if ever Tapales loses this match but I don't want to assume just yet. Tapales is preparing like crazy hard on his training so we will see if there will be a change in history.
If Tapales wins, Casimero's chance to face the Monster will increase.

I believe that regardless of the outcome of the Inoue vs. Tapales fight, Casimero still has a decent chance of fighting Inoue. The champion has already announced his interest in staying in the division where he is the reigning champion, which might mean he will accommodate multiple challengers before seeking a new belt at a higher weight.

While he is waiting, Casimero can keep himself busy to ensure that his ranking improves, and I have no doubt that it will happen.

So, I remain optimistic that this anticipated fight will happen in the near future.
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It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.

Good point and it's valid, if they met during Donaire's prime I can also agree that it might be a different outcome, just look what happened from the first met Donaire coming from a long vacation and almost beat that prime Inoue.

Fight gonna be fantasy though, I mean they met when Donaire might be in the sunset of his career. But yeah, maybe a prime Donaire that destroys everyone at bantamweight, or even a prime Inoue, it might be a different story. Donaire's weaknesses is fighting taller guy or moving up in weight class.
But if he remains at bantawmeight and fight smaller guys than him, he will have a good chance that he is going to knock that opponent out with either left hook or his upper cut.
The landscape though is very different for Inoue now, he is at the prime years and it's hard to see him beaten by Tapales here, IMHO.

It could have brought some big excitement if Inoue and Donaire had met during their prime, but we know it's not going to happen as Donaire cannot go back in time. However, in terms of popularity, I think Donaire was more popular in his time because he loved to fight in the US, where there's a huge audience for boxing. Inoue, on the other hand, has most of his fights in Japan, which has been criticized by some boxing experts, especially Floyd Mayweather.

And I agree to those who criticized Inoue for not fighting out of his native country Japan. US is the mecca and the center of boxing, he should be a at least comfortable fighting outside, and in the US. And I do agree that even if both are in their primes, Donaire will be the more popular and he could really beat Inoue with his left hook. And Donaire's prime he was not just a slugger, but he has a high boxing IQ and good timing.
Let's just accept what happened because talking about the things that are impossible to happen is pointless, we can talk about the ifs but it will not go anywhere because they came from different eras.

With response to Inoue fighting outside Japan, I personally think that there is a particular reason why Inoue chose to fight in his country; if you guys remember what Fulton pointed out before on how Inoue tapes his fist, you see that is illegal in any other country but in Japan, it is legal and Inoue has been doing that for years because it suits him. Now, I'm not saying that Inoue doesn't have power because there is no doubt that he packs a punch but that kind of wrap forms a cast-like in Inoue's fist which gives him another advantage so that his foe will feel his punches more. If he will choose to fight outside Japan, he cannot do that anymore.

As of now, there's no other Filipino boxer who could potentially give a good challenge to Inoue. It's not Tapales but it's Casimero.
If might be a good debate though, and for sure we have been taking aboutit for years. And we can only say if it is Casimero if they really face each other in the future. Hopefully this can be done, so that we can finally this two in the ring.
I'd say that it should've happened years ago when Casimero is much younger than today, that time when both of them are still at 118 because at that time, I'm confident about Casimero but now at 122, I'm still not convinced.
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One of the things that most excites me about this boxer is that he is when it comes to challenges, rematches, and above all when there is a belt or something similar, well, he assumes it and prepares himself with more intensity, perhaps the fact of being a A very disciplined person and that is what marks him out compared to others, I want to see this fight and see what kind of strategy Tapales will use, but where I went, my strategy was to be on the defensive, make him get tired and counterattack, because the truth is I can't think of any strategy against him, because he really is a boxer who can quickly read the other boxer's plan, and I think that is also the intelligence he uses, and that is quite difficult for some, For me, boxing is 80% intelligence and 20% effort with the body, however, what you train the most is your body to resist the blows that you are going to receive.


It is the advantage of Inoue. He anticipates his opponent's strategy and adjusts things at the right timing.

If he sees that he can absorb his opponent's attack, then expect him to be more aggressive. I used to remember the first fight against
Donaire where after being almost taken down.

When he manages to get up and compose his self, that the time he really become aggressive and really attacks the most, then
he earned that fight a win.
The first fight against Donaire, it was the last time that we have seen Inoue almost lost the fight. It was a hard fought give and take and he absorbs all what Donaire can bring to the point that he suffered a broken orbital bone and yet he pushes for the fight and win it.

But there are fans or even boxers who thought that Inoue lost that fight. If I'm not mistaken, Roy Jones Jr was one of them. I remember as well though, that Jone is a big fan of Donaire so he might be biased on that.

I think that is why a rematch has took place and that is to end all the issues once and for all, eventually, it was a 2-0 in favor of Inoue and Donaire haven't even had the chance to rally back and regain a momentum because he didn't anticipated the fact that he will face a much stronger and unpredictable Inoue who finished their fight in just like a whim. Although years have passed before their rematch but it's all the same to me, Donaire's good but his years are already over.

It's a shame that Donaire is a boxer that he didn't appreciate as he was, it's also that when compared to Inoue's career it's not anything, it's known that Inoue is literally a Monster when fighting, and he's also very very intelligent. So an Inoue with a Donaire is a big advantage, really, and I would think that right now Inoue is at a level of boxing where he can beat any boxer who comes his way, of course I say this because of what he has been demonstrating at all times. Personally, for me, Inoue cannot be compared to Donaire. Regarding Donaire, I think he needs to train a lot. I'm not saying because of his age, I'm saying it because of him, because of the things he can develop, as I have said on many occasions. , I am one of those who think that a boxer wins his fights at the time of his training, and if the training is stronger, more intense than that of the other boxer, then he will win, otherwise I believe that in a fight, unless If something extraordinary happens to the other person, they can win, but that rarely happens.

It's not really a shame because Donaire has proved enough in the industry of what he can do, he achieved enough that Manny Pacquiao himself trusted and passed the torch to him to make the Filipinos proud, and as a Filipino, I'm proud of what he has become but when it comes to reality, it's hard to argue that Donaire is already in the sunset of his career while Inoue is still at his sunrise.

We can say that age might not be a factor but that is not really the case because let's not forget that Donaire is already at his 40s and it's hard to say really that he still have the power and speed to keep up with the guys who are still on the height of their prime like Naoya Inoue.
Well, it should be noted that first of all, greetings to the people of the Philippines and yes, there is something that I admire a lot about the Filipinos, it is the material they have to train boxers like them, but it is not that I am entering a casino, not at all, but you must understand. something, to measure up to one of the greats like Inoue, he must be training already and very hard, I believe a lot in the abilities of boxers who are old, who are mature and who can obviously make the difference and get ahead of the They are very young, because they have something I already know like experience, which is why I know that when we see that there are boxers like Inoue who have shown many things, leaving all their titles just to move to the category they are in, I think that not everyone does that, and obviously it is not that Nnonito is a bad boxer, no, he is a boxer who is there and still has a lot to give, but when I make the comparison with one Inoue, with great respect I say that ' {He must train a lot to be able to face him, just like Tyson did, he was the undisputed heavyweight champion and he never gave up on his training, every day he trained as if he were going to fight someone, but why? In order not to lose shape, at the time when a fight came up, he was already very prepared.

So when he had a pending fight, he increased the level of his training, that is, that man began to train so hard that in order to have that body he could resist it, which is why he now suffers a lot from Sciatic Nerve, because his effort was far above what his body could withstand, that is what I mean by Nonito, he can be like that, in fact Filipinos have a special DNA for boxing, they are people who They have that natural talent, so the talent + training because they make super boxers, that's what Inoue does, that's why he's doing so well.


Every boxer is different mate, we can say that Filipinos got a different DNA to somehow keep up in the boxing industry and maintain their status while they are on the upper side and that is true, but we shouldn't forget the fact that it is somehow easy to become a champion but maintaining that same status while also leveling up is already on another level. What I'm trying to say is that everyone can dream to be a boxer but only few selected ones are born to be a star in the mentioned sports. Donaire, Pacquiao, Naoya and the guys you've mentioned are born for it because if they don't, no matter how they persevere, they will always have a limit unlike these stars.

It is like this, we as fans or as people who have practiced the sport in some way, we might think that things are quite strong when we make comparisons, of course there are very good boxers who are from the USA, from Mexico, but there are times when for To be boxers we need to have a special DNA, because you can't do it with heart alone, sometimes someone who just wants to be a boxer and doesn't have the guts, the resistance, can simply die, but I say about the Filipinos because I have given myself I think things are quite obvious, they are very good at boxing, besides it is similar to saying like soccer for Brazilians, or that a person is born to do X thing, there will always be people with more talent than others or who person who does not possess the talent, obviously they work to equal those who find it easier. but I think something more like a Filipino like these is the level of Pacquiao and Nonito, whenever I talk about Nonito it is worth highlighting that it is under a lot of respect, because I know what the trajectory of this boxer is and that he obviously has a lot to prove, if there is something What I have always said is that a boxer's age is only the number, it is not a determining factor in it, just as it is in football for some athletes even though they have been legendary, this happens a lot in football in certain parts of Europe.

In the case of boxers, it is worth noting that I think that the older they are, the more experience they have and the more they know their body and where they can go, they are more calculating boxers and can do anything by managing their times, this is extremely important, because the difference with There are novices who think that they can do any feat, yes, they can not be afraid of anyone, not even anyone who has had extensive experience, because this can be counterproductive so that they can persuade them what they can do, that is why a boxer with more experience they are like more dangerous than anyone else.

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September 12, 2023, 06:22:05 PM
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Low chance Casimero would get that long-awaited fight against Naoya Inoue. Rankings will be the problem. But we have seen some boxers try to make the champions camp angry and get that fight that they want, it will still depend on the champion if he wants to prove something. But, the organization cannot help him because he ain't even near him.

2 ways. Make them mad and be forced to approve it. Or, get the help of the boxing fans including the popular boxing analysts to boost this fight to happen, but that will depend on Inoue's camp if they are getting itchy to have a match again.
Oh, and another way is to make it look like an act of revenge for Filipinos if ever Tapales loses this match but I don't want to assume just yet. Tapales is preparing like crazy hard on his training so we will see if there will be a change in history.
If Tapales wins, Casimero's chance to face the Monster will increase.

I believe that regardless of the outcome of the Inoue vs. Tapales fight, Casimero still has a decent chance of fighting Inoue. The champion has already announced his interest in staying in the division where he is the reigning champion, which might mean he will accommodate multiple challengers before seeking a new belt at a higher weight.

While he is waiting, Casimero can keep himself busy to ensure that his ranking improves, and I have no doubt that it will happen.

So, I remain optimistic that this anticipated fight will happen in the near future.

We will have to wait and see, I mean, in just 2 fights then Inoue have unified the belt already (assuming he wins against Tapales). Not sure if that is a record of sort, having climb up to a new division and getting all the belts.

So maybe that's why he said that he wants to stay in the division. And perhaps fights all new comers including Casimero in which all of us here wanted to see because we have been deprived of it at 118 lbs.

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Low chance Casimero would get that long-awaited fight against Naoya Inoue. Rankings will be the problem. But we have seen some boxers try to make the champions camp angry and get that fight that they want, it will still depend on the champion if he wants to prove something. But, the organization cannot help him because he ain't even near him.

2 ways. Make them mad and be forced to approve it. Or, get the help of the boxing fans including the popular boxing analysts to boost this fight to happen, but that will depend on Inoue's camp if they are getting itchy to have a match again.
Oh, and another way is to make it look like an act of revenge for Filipinos if ever Tapales loses this match but I don't want to assume just yet. Tapales is preparing like crazy hard on his training so we will see if there will be a change in history.
If Tapales wins, Casimero's chance to face the Monster will increase.

I believe that regardless of the outcome of the Inoue vs. Tapales fight, Casimero still has a decent chance of fighting Inoue. The champion has already announced his interest in staying in the division where he is the reigning champion, which might mean he will accommodate multiple challengers before seeking a new belt at a higher weight.

While he is waiting, Casimero can keep himself busy to ensure that his ranking improves, and I have no doubt that it will happen.

So, I remain optimistic that this anticipated fight will happen in the near future.

We will have to wait and see, I mean, in just 2 fights then Inoue have unified the belt already (assuming he wins against Tapales). Not sure if that is a record of sort, having climb up to a new division and getting all the belts.

So maybe that's why he said that he wants to stay in the division. And perhaps fights all new comers including Casimero in which all of us here wanted to see because we have been deprived of it at 118 lbs.

@Sanitough, Well, I think that the outcome of Inoue vs Tapales is definitely not going to affect the chance of having a fight between Inoue and Casimero. And of course, if Inoue stays in this division, there is a huge chance of this fight happening. Actually, I don’t see why the flight might not happen. Even from the point of view of the sponsors and the authority, the hype is already pretty big. So the pay per view is also definitely going to be good. But when it comes to the performance of Casimero I think it is going to matter if he does not perform consistently enough. I mean if he ends up losing fights or not taking fights, the hype is going to go down in my opinion.

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September 12, 2023, 07:45:45 PM
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Low chance Casimero would get that long-awaited fight against Naoya Inoue. Rankings will be the problem. But we have seen some boxers try to make the champions camp angry and get that fight that they want, it will still depend on the champion if he wants to prove something. But, the organization cannot help him because he ain't even near him.

2 ways. Make them mad and be forced to approve it. Or, get the help of the boxing fans including the popular boxing analysts to boost this fight to happen, but that will depend on Inoue's camp if they are getting itchy to have a match again.
Oh, and another way is to make it look like an act of revenge for Filipinos if ever Tapales loses this match but I don't want to assume just yet. Tapales is preparing like crazy hard on his training so we will see if there will be a change in history.
If Tapales wins, Casimero's chance to face the Monster will increase.

I believe that regardless of the outcome of the Inoue vs. Tapales fight, Casimero still has a decent chance of fighting Inoue. The champion has already announced his interest in staying in the division where he is the reigning champion, which might mean he will accommodate multiple challengers before seeking a new belt at a higher weight.

While he is waiting, Casimero can keep himself busy to ensure that his ranking improves, and I have no doubt that it will happen.

So, I remain optimistic that this anticipated fight will happen in the near future.

We will have to wait and see, I mean, in just 2 fights then Inoue have unified the belt already (assuming he wins against Tapales). Not sure if that is a record of sort, having climb up to a new division and getting all the belts.

So maybe that's why he said that he wants to stay in the division. And perhaps fights all new comers including Casimero in which all of us here wanted to see because we have been deprived of it at 118 lbs.

@Sanitough, Well, I think that the outcome of Inoue vs Tapales is definitely not going to affect the chance of having a fight between Inoue and Casimero. And of course, if Inoue stays in this division, there is a huge chance of this fight happening. Actually, I don’t see why the flight might not happen. Even from the point of view of the sponsors and the authority, the hype is already pretty big. So the fighter's view is also definitely going to be good. But when it comes to the performance of Casimero I think it is going to matter if he does not perform consistently enough. I mean if he ends up losing fights or not taking fights, the hype is going to go down in my opinion.

Better it would be pushed through and your right that the hype is already on the roof on which i do really have questions in mind on why those promoters or boxing organization wont really be considering out this fight
to happen? Of course it would really be that understandable that they should really be on the same division but totally checking then they are really just that the same.
I did see something interesting here:  https://box.live/fights/inoue-vs-casimero/ . Is this something that shows about those probabilities to be pushed on?

Here are the notable differences in between two.
The stats suggest Inoue would have a large advantage in power over Casimero, boosting at 88% knock out percentage over Casimero's 67%.

Naoya Inoue is the younger man by 3 years, at 30 years old.
Inoue has a height advantage of 1 inch over Casimero.
Both Naoya Inoue & John Riel Casimero fight out of an orthodox stance.

Source

So with these info along then you could really tell on who does have the advantage.

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September 13, 2023, 01:21:08 AM
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Better it would be pushed through and your right that the hype is already on the roof on which i do really have questions in mind on why those promoters or boxing organization wont really be considering out this fight
to happen? Of course it would really be that understandable that they should really be on the same division but totally checking then they are really just that the same.
I did see something interesting here:  https://box.live/fights/inoue-vs-casimero/ . Is this something that shows about those probabilities to be pushed on?

Here are the notable differences in between two.
The stats suggest Inoue would have a large advantage in power over Casimero, boosting at 88% knock out percentage over Casimero's 67%.

Naoya Inoue is the younger man by 3 years, at 30 years old.
Inoue has a height advantage of 1 inch over Casimero.
Both Naoya Inoue & John Riel Casimero fight out of an orthodox stance.

Source

So with these info along then you could really tell on who does have the advantage.

I truly think that because Inoue has the advantage in this fight against Casimero, it is going to be a bigger fight for Casimero, and if he can actually give his opponent a close competition, which is going to be appreciated by a lot of people. And in the movies we see a line being thrown around, "he did not win the fight, but he did win the hearts of people". Probably something like that is going to happen if Casimero can take this close. But with the knockout power that Inoue has, it is not going to be surprising to see Casimero get knocked out. But that fight has to get arranged in the first place. I think this is the right time when the fight should be arranged. If they are late, they might kill the hype.

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September 13, 2023, 03:08:20 AM
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Better it would be pushed through and your right that the hype is already on the roof on which i do really have questions in mind on why those promoters or boxing organization wont really be considering out this fight
to happen? Of course it would really be that understandable that they should really be on the same division but totally checking then they are really just that the same.
I did see something interesting here:  https://box.live/fights/inoue-vs-casimero/ . Is this something that shows about those probabilities to be pushed on?

Here are the notable differences in between two.
The stats suggest Inoue would have a large advantage in power over Casimero, boosting at 88% knock out percentage over Casimero's 67%.

Naoya Inoue is the younger man by 3 years, at 30 years old.
Inoue has a height advantage of 1 inch over Casimero.
Both Naoya Inoue & John Riel Casimero fight out of an orthodox stance.

Source

So with these info along then you could really tell on who does have the advantage.

I truly think that because Inoue has the advantage in this fight against Casimero, it is going to be a bigger fight for Casimero, and if he can actually give his opponent a close competition, which is going to be appreciated by a lot of people. And in the movies we see a line being thrown around, "he did not win the fight, but he did win the hearts of people". Probably something like that is going to happen if Casimero can take this close. But with the knockout power that Inoue has, it is not going to be surprising to see Casimero get knocked out. But that fight has to get arranged in the first place. I think this is the right time when the fight should be arranged. If they are late, they might kill the hype.

The possibility for the fight to happen depends on how fans will try to bring the hype to the promoters. They both need to win with their respective upcoming fight, then start to talk about the possibility.

I think all that opinion and speculation can only be concluded once they are already inside the ring
fighting each other, for now, we can just bring our opinion and favor who we think that have the
advantage according to their past fights and stats.
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