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September 20, 2023, 06:58:38 AM
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Casimero confidence is also influenced by his readiness to increase his weight to be able to meet Inoue in his class.

Casimero doesn't need to increase his weight to face Inoue because they are currently in the same division.

You can check the list of boxers and their respective rankings; the boxers we are discussing belong to the super bantamweight division.

look here:
https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings
Well right now both of them are in the super batam class weighing 122lbs but previously Casimero was only in the 118lbs batam class and when Casimero wanted to challenge Inoue always avoided the fight and moved up to the super batam class then Casimero followed and returned to give the fighting challenge he had given to Inoue before.

The WBO and WBC super classes are currently held by Inoue and Casimero the WBC is ranked 7th and the WBO is ranked 3rd and if Inoue later accepts Casimero challenge perhaps one of these titles could be taken over by Casimero.
But from several rumors circulating it seems that Inoue will be hesitant to accept the challenge from Casimero because he has the desire to unite 4 titles in one Batam super class where two titles are held by Marlon Tapales.

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September 20, 2023, 07:14:37 AM
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Casimero confidence is also influenced by his readiness to increase his weight to be able to meet Inoue in his class.

Casimero doesn't need to increase his weight to face Inoue because they are currently in the same division.

You can check the list of boxers and their respective rankings; the boxers we are discussing belong to the super bantamweight division.

look here:
https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings
Well right now both of them are in the super batam class weighing 122lbs but previously Casimero was only in the 118lbs batam class and when Casimero wanted to challenge Inoue always avoided the fight and moved up to the super batam class then Casimero followed and returned to give the fighting challenge he had given to Inoue before.

The WBO and WBC super classes are currently held by Inoue and Casimero the WBC is ranked 7th and the WBO is ranked 3rd and if Inoue later accepts Casimero challenge perhaps one of these titles could be taken over by Casimero.
But from several rumors circulating it seems that Inoue will be hesitant to accept the challenge from Casimero because he has the desire to unite 4 titles in one Batam super class where two titles are held by Marlon Tapales.
Inoue would definitely be coming after with those 2 belts which is held by Tapales which there's no doubt on which having that unified champion on said or current division is much more appealing or achievement rather than on getting some fight with Casimero. I dont know on why some people do say that Inoue is really that afraid with Casimero? i dont think so because in just seeing about Casimeros capability in against with Inoue then whats the reason on why Inoue would really be scared of him? He could really make a good damn lesson teaching to Casimero i should say.

When it comes to power then there's no doubt for Casimero but when it comes to footsteps and rythym and defense then Inoue is really that too far off which it is really a great
advantage against with Casimero which is really that flat-footed. LOL!

Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.
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September 20, 2023, 07:21:00 AM
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Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.

Both fighters have an equal opportunity in this bout, but if Inoue were to lose, it could have a significant impact on his future. He may find it challenging to continue moving up in the ranks, as his perceived strength might not hold up. The pressure on Inoue is quite high, with the world cheering for him, so winning this fight is crucial for him.

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September 20, 2023, 10:06:56 AM
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Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.

Both fighters have an equal opportunity in this bout, but if Inoue were to lose, it could have a significant impact on his future. He may find it challenging to continue moving up in the ranks, as his perceived strength might not hold up. The pressure on Inoue is quite high, with the world cheering for him, so winning this fight is crucial for him.

In terms of career hype, unifying all the belts will be the focused for Inoue as he really wanted to continue excelling in this sport, though it's sweeter if Taples will upset him since everyone or most expect that it's Inoue that will win this fight.

With your statement, equal opportunity as they will be given that chance to beat one another,
but stats wise and winning chance by favorite all the way for Inoue.
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September 20, 2023, 10:25:51 AM
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Casimero confidence is also influenced by his readiness to increase his weight to be able to meet Inoue in his class.

Casimero doesn't need to increase his weight to face Inoue because they are currently in the same division.

You can check the list of boxers and their respective rankings; the boxers we are discussing belong to the super bantamweight division.

look here:
https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings
Well right now both of them are in the super batam class weighing 122lbs but previously Casimero was only in the 118lbs batam class and when Casimero wanted to challenge Inoue always avoided the fight and moved up to the super batam class then Casimero followed and returned to give the fighting challenge he had given to Inoue before.

The WBO and WBC super classes are currently held by Inoue and Casimero the WBC is ranked 7th and the WBO is ranked 3rd and if Inoue later accepts Casimero challenge perhaps one of these titles could be taken over by Casimero.
But from several rumors circulating it seems that Inoue will be hesitant to accept the challenge from Casimero because he has the desire to unite 4 titles in one Batam super class where two titles are held by Marlon Tapales.

It was indeed unfortunate for Casimero when the fight between him and Inoue was initially announced, but it had to be postponed and later canceled due to the pandemic. However, when restrictions eased, Inoue lost interest in facing Casimero, likely because Inoue was the more popular boxer and garnered more attention. Another setback for Casimero was when he was stripped of his belt, although it was a move he was planning to make anyway. Nonetheless, it doesn't look good when a boxer is stripped of their title.

Now, the situation has taken a different turn, as Casimero is the one actively seeking a big fight. Unfortunately, it hasn't materialized yet, as the opponents he has faced recently are not in a strong position within the same division.

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September 20, 2023, 10:31:20 AM
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Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.

Both fighters have an equal opportunity in this bout, but if Inoue were to lose, it could have a significant impact on his future. He may find it challenging to continue moving up in the ranks, as his perceived strength might not hold up. The pressure on Inoue is quite high, with the world cheering for him, so winning this fight is crucial for him.

In terms of career hype, unifying all the belts will be the focused for Inoue as he really wanted to continue excelling in this sport, though it's sweeter if Taples will upset him since everyone or most expect that it's Inoue that will win this fight.

With your statement, equal opportunity as they will be given that chance to beat one another,
but stats wise and winning chance by favorite all the way for Inoue.
I also consider this fight as a already decision for Inoue and just formality to continue the fight.

maybe Tapales chance is only by Luck or a super  Lucky punch .

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September 20, 2023, 01:20:44 PM
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maybe Tapales chance is only by Luck or a super  Lucky punch .

You are not alone in underestimating Tapales; even some of his fellow countrymen do not think he has the tools to defeat Inoue. They are endorsing Casimero to match up with Inoue. It's just sad that it won't happen easily, as Casimero isn't a champion. Neither of them is destined to fight, but eventually, as time passes by, opportunities will open up for these two that will interest them because of a huge reward.
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September 20, 2023, 05:56:52 PM
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Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.

Both fighters have an equal opportunity in this bout, but if Inoue were to lose, it could have a significant impact on his future. He may find it challenging to continue moving up in the ranks, as his perceived strength might not hold up. The pressure on Inoue is quite high, with the world cheering for him, so winning this fight is crucial for him.
I think both of them have huge pressures, for Marlon, this is his biggest fight obviously and he wants to bring glory to the Philippines again. For Inoue, he wants to maintain his status in the p4p list and he is fighting again in front of his hometown.

But with his impeccable records of knocking out his opponents, I guess majority here knows that it's a hard task for Tapales to upset Inoue and as someone says, he needs all the luck to be able to pull that.

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September 21, 2023, 06:43:55 AM
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Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.

Both fighters have an equal opportunity in this bout, but if Inoue were to lose, it could have a significant impact on his future. He may find it challenging to continue moving up in the ranks, as his perceived strength might not hold up. The pressure on Inoue is quite high, with the world cheering for him, so winning this fight is crucial for him.
I think both of them have huge pressures, for Marlon, this is his biggest fight obviously and he wants to bring glory to the Philippines again. For Inoue, he wants to maintain his status in the p4p list and he is fighting again in front of his hometown.

But with his impeccable records of knocking out his opponents, I guess majority here knows that it's a hard task for Tapales to upset Inoue and as someone says, he needs all the luck to be able to pull that.
True, but people would understand if Tapales were to lose because he was viewed as a heavy underdog in this fight. However, if Tapales were to win, although both are champions, people would think it's a huge upset. So it's easier for Tapales to move on if he loses, while Inoue might be mentally affected if he were to lose in a fight that most of the fans from both sides believed he would win. And to think they even thought it will be just an easy fight for him.

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September 21, 2023, 07:36:02 AM
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Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.

Both fighters have an equal opportunity in this bout, but if Inoue were to lose, it could have a significant impact on his future. He may find it challenging to continue moving up in the ranks, as his perceived strength might not hold up. The pressure on Inoue is quite high, with the world cheering for him, so winning this fight is crucial for him.
I think both of them have huge pressures, for Marlon, this is his biggest fight obviously and he wants to bring glory to the Philippines again. For Inoue, he wants to maintain his status in the p4p list and he is fighting again in front of his hometown.

But with his impeccable records of knocking out his opponents, I guess majority here knows that it's a hard task for Tapales to upset Inoue and as someone says, he needs all the luck to be able to pull that.

With luck and hard trainings it might still be possible to put an upset but the chance is too slim, Tapales will be a huge underdog
here since Inoue's winning chance is really high.

It's something that long been expected since they've got a huge gap in terms of achievements, though both are champions.

But the level of competitiveness and the level of winning expectations are being eyed mostly, if not all, for Inoue.
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September 21, 2023, 01:40:18 PM
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Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.

Both fighters have an equal opportunity in this bout, but if Inoue were to lose, it could have a significant impact on his future. He may find it challenging to continue moving up in the ranks, as his perceived strength might not hold up. The pressure on Inoue is quite high, with the world cheering for him, so winning this fight is crucial for him.
I think both of them have huge pressures, for Marlon, this is his biggest fight obviously and he wants to bring glory to the Philippines again. For Inoue, he wants to maintain his status in the p4p list and he is fighting again in front of his hometown.

But with his impeccable records of knocking out his opponents, I guess majority here knows that it's a hard task for Tapales to upset Inoue and as someone says, he needs all the luck to be able to pull that.

With luck and hard trainings it might still be possible to put an upset but the chance is too slim, Tapales will be a huge underdog
here since Inoue's winning chance is really high.
Definitely, there is luck here, specially in boxing, as one punch that really change everything. And if that happens, it's going to be a big upset and for sure there will eb a lot of shakeup next in the 122 lbs as Tapales will now be the unified champion.

However, we are just taking about logic here, I mean the record of Inoue, the opposition he face. Everything really points out that he will be the favorite here and most likely accomplished a second unification champion.

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September 21, 2023, 01:48:37 PM
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Everything really points out that he will be the favorite here and most likely accomplished a second unification champion.

I think the right term to use here is "undisputed champion".

This is an article that explains about the specific fight.Inoue Vs. Tapales For Undisputed Being Targeted For December

Inoue has become an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division, and now he is in the super bantamweight division, aiming to achieve the same.

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September 21, 2023, 02:40:55 PM
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Everything really points out that he will be the favorite here and most likely accomplished a second unification champion.

I think the right term to use here is "undisputed champion".

This is an article that explains about the specific fight.Inoue Vs. Tapales For Undisputed Being Targeted For December

Inoue has become an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division, and now he is in the super bantamweight division, aiming to achieve the same.

That's right, because whoever wins this fight will probably hold all four belts and become the undisputed champion.

Here is the list of belts and the champions who hold them:

WBC: Inoue
WBO: Inoue
WBA: Tapales
IBF: Tapales

Now, we will only have one champion after this fight, and the next step for the champion is to face challengers before moving up.

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September 22, 2023, 04:15:37 AM
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Everything really points out that he will be the favorite here and most likely accomplished a second unification champion.

I think the right term to use here is "undisputed champion".

This is an article that explains about the specific fight.Inoue Vs. Tapales For Undisputed Being Targeted For December

Inoue has become an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division, and now he is in the super bantamweight division, aiming to achieve the same.

That's right, because whoever wins this fight will probably hold all four belts and become the undisputed champion.

Here is the list of belts and the champions who hold them:

WBC: Inoue
WBO: Inoue
WBA: Tapales
IBF: Tapales

Now, we will only have one champion after this fight, and the next step for the champion is to face challengers before moving up.

Yes, he can choose to stay and defends the belt, but if you look at others who have unified it, going to be very hard. So the best recourse for them is to really vacant some of the belt as obviously as I have said, very difficult to defend it.

One, each body has it's mandatory challenges, so just imagine the unified champion trying to fight all the mandatories in a year, so that is not possible. Second, boxing politics, boxers will choose which body is the best for them, and choose that fight, lets say it's WBC so he will have to maintain his WBC status. So the other bodies will force their way as well. So the champion will have to vacant at least 2 of the belts and maintain the belt that he likes or at least there is some sort of prestige having that belt.

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September 22, 2023, 07:24:35 AM
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Everything really points out that he will be the favorite here and most likely accomplished a second unification champion.

I think the right term to use here is "undisputed champion".

This is an article that explains about the specific fight.Inoue Vs. Tapales For Undisputed Being Targeted For December

Inoue has become an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division, and now he is in the super bantamweight division, aiming to achieve the same.

That's right, because whoever wins this fight will probably hold all four belts and become the undisputed champion.

Here is the list of belts and the champions who hold them:

WBC: Inoue
WBO: Inoue
WBA: Tapales
IBF: Tapales

Now, we will only have one champion after this fight, and the next step for the champion is to face challengers before moving up.

Yes, he can choose to stay and defends the belt, but if you look at others who have unified it, going to be very hard. So the best recourse for them is to really vacant some of the belt as obviously as I have said, very difficult to defend it.

One, each body has it's mandatory challenges, so just imagine the unified champion trying to fight all the mandatories in a year, so that is not possible. Second, boxing politics, boxers will choose which body is the best for them, and choose that fight, lets say it's WBC so he will have to maintain his WBC status. So the other bodies will force their way as well. So the champion will have to vacant at least 2 of the belts and maintain the belt that he likes or at least there is some sort of prestige having that belt.

There's no problem with vacating the belts for Inoue. The ultimate goal is to win them all to add to his achievements and then fight some challengers before moving up. I'm sure Inoue still has the power and speed to dominate, so moving up at the right time could be one of his priorities once he holds all the belts. Of course, he needs to beat Tapales, who is obviously not as hyped as people are underestimating him.
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September 22, 2023, 07:57:37 AM
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There's no problem with vacating the belts for Inoue. The ultimate goal is to win them all to add to his achievements and then fight some challengers before moving up. I'm sure Inoue still has the power and speed to dominate, so moving up at the right time could be one of his priorities once he holds all the belts. Of course, he needs to beat Tapales, who is obviously not as hyped as people are underestimating him.

Inoue does not intend to stay in the bantamweight division for long. So, if he wins this fight, he might just consider a few title defenses. I think one year is already enough to accommodate at least two challengers before he moves up. In fact, I still believe that once he moves up, he will remain the most feared opponent. Great job to Inoue for taking things slowly but consistently. He knows how to make his future plans work, and there's nothing to worry about.

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September 22, 2023, 08:40:51 AM
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There's no problem with vacating the belts for Inoue. The ultimate goal is to win them all to add to his achievements and then fight some challengers before moving up. I'm sure Inoue still has the power and speed to dominate, so moving up at the right time could be one of his priorities once he holds all the belts. Of course, he needs to beat Tapales, who is obviously not as hyped as people are underestimating him.

Inoue does not intend to stay in the bantamweight division for long. So, if he wins this fight, he might just consider a few title defenses. I think one year is already enough to accommodate at least two challengers before he moves up. In fact, I still believe that once he moves up, he will remain the most feared opponent. Great job to Inoue for taking things slowly but consistently. He knows how to make his future plans work, and there's nothing to worry about.

Having more belts like Pacman must be the goal. He'd be more glorified than Pac If he achieved 9 belts in a different division and I think he will be able to make it.
For now, he can assure himself to dominate fighters but by the time he reaches welterweight, he may find himself getting slower and experience loss.

He got Fulton with no harm to himself, he will also KO Tapales easily. Since Tapales is no threat to him, the odds may be Inoue 1.25 vs. Tapales 3.10.


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September 22, 2023, 01:27:59 PM
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There's no problem with vacating the belts for Inoue. The ultimate goal is to win them all to add to his achievements and then fight some challengers before moving up. I'm sure Inoue still has the power and speed to dominate, so moving up at the right time could be one of his priorities once he holds all the belts. Of course, he needs to beat Tapales, who is obviously not as hyped as people are underestimating him.

Inoue does not intend to stay in the bantamweight division for long. So, if he wins this fight, he might just consider a few title defenses. I think one year is already enough to accommodate at least two challengers before he moves up. In fact, I still believe that once he moves up, he will remain the most feared opponent. Great job to Inoue for taking things slowly but consistently. He knows how to make his future plans work, and there's nothing to worry about.
Yes, most likely 1 or 2 fights and once his body matures again at 122 lbs, he might go for another belt at 126 lbs. But not sure if he will be feared though, I mean 126 lbs, there are lot of great champion that might give Inoue a hard time.

But for now, let's see how he will do his unification against Tapales, almost everyone here thinks that Tapales odds are very slim. So maybe we might be talking at how Inoue will win and what round will it end for Tapales.

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September 22, 2023, 01:34:56 PM
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So maybe we might be talking at how Inoue will win and what round will it end for Tapales.

If Inoue wins, I'm guessing that this won't go past 6 rounds. Tapales is an aggressive fighter, although he has mastered the counter-punching style, he really likes to engage with his opponents. So, it should be an interesting fight to watch, but I'm afraid Tapales won't be able to time his attacks well against the speed and quickness of Inoue.

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September 22, 2023, 01:50:15 PM
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So maybe we might be talking at how Inoue will win and what round will it end for Tapales.

If Inoue wins, I'm guessing that this won't go past 6 rounds. Tapales is an aggressive fighter, although he has mastered the counter-punching style, he really likes to engage with his opponents. So, it should be an interesting fight to watch, but I'm afraid Tapales won't be able to time his attacks well against the speed and quickness of Inoue.

The only reason Stephen Fulton and Paul Butler lasted in the later rounds before getting KO'd is that they didn't engage in a toe-to-toe battle against Inoue. So, if Tapales were to go toe-to-toe, this fight could end early. However, there's still a chance that an upset could happen because Tapales has KO power. But as the majority believes, Inoue is still likely to dominate. Tapales should master Inoue's style to determine how to counter it, because if not, he will just be fighting to survive, no different from other boxers.

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