ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD!

[JSRAW]

After checking Australia's scorecard, it seems they took this rain effected warm up match too seriously lol.

Smudge and Josh Inglis opening for them, Maxwell and Softy Starc coming at number 4 and 6 respectively. Last but not least Marnus is batting at number 9.

If I am being honest then it felt like they imported the batting roaster from EA Cricket. 

[Minor Miner]

Australia vs Netherlands Warm up match

After the delaying due to rain now match lived Australia against Netherlands team. I suppose that pitch is not favor to Australia team in today. I am also very surprising to see the performance of Netherlands in bowling lineup very tremendous. At this time, Australia team players like Josh Inglis batsman out by Logan van Beek in 0 runs, Alex Carey out by Roelof van der Merwe after scoring 28 runs and Glenn Maxwell out by Shariz Ahmed only scoring 5 runs.

5th warm-up Match between Australia and the Netherlands. Australia won the toss and decided to bat first in the warm-up match against the Netherlands. Australia posted 166 in a loss of 7 wickets in 23 against Netherlands. Steve Smith batting well scored 55 runs in just 42 balls and Green also played a good inning of 34 runs in just 26 balls and reached the total to 160 plus.
 Netherland bowling very outstanding in this match especially Roelof van der Merwe the star with the ball in the first innings by picking up 3 Crusial wickets just giving 12 runs in just 3 overs. Van Beek also picked up 2 important wickets by giving 35 runs in 5 overs with the Economy rate of 7.0. I think the Netherland have some chance of winning this match against big team Australia. The Netherlands managed to take 7 Australia wickets in the first inning Now They need to chase down 167 in 23 overs to win this warm-up Match.

The performance of the Australian batsmen was not good enough. Australia lost 7 wickets in just 23 overs. The Australian batsmen were able to provide a target of 16 descents. There is no way to say that the target is too big. Still, I think Australia will easily win this match. Although the Netherlands managed to qualify for the World Cup, this team is not very strong. Their batting order is quite weak. And in today's match also we see the poor batting of Netherlands. Netherlands lost their first four batsmen to collect just 15 runs. I don't think Netherlands have any chance of winning this match. Probably the Netherlands team will be able to collect up to 80-100 runs.

[Shishir99]

the Netherlands managed to qualify for the World Cup, this team is not very strong. Their batting order is quite weak.

Yet we have to consider them as a better team than West Indies for now. Because they have qualified by playing in the World Cup qualifier, some teams are stronger than others and some others are weak. We cannot expect competition from every one of them. But the good thing about the Netherlands is that they have improved their game in the last few years. The problem is they did not get enough chances to play against stronger teams like Australia except in these ICC tournaments. They have some players who never played against India yet, They have players who did not played against Pakistan yet.

[Bitcoin_people]

Australia vs Netherlands batting in this match, Australia collected 166 runs in 23 overs. Due to rain at the beginning, the match was played in DL system in 23 overs, Australia managed to collect runs in 23 overs losing 7 wickets in the match. However, the Netherlands have put in a poor batting performance in the second innings and have lost wickets quickly due to which they have not been able to increase their runs so far. Moreover, in today's match, Netherlands lost 5 wickets, which is really sad for Netherlands. Today's match is most likely to be won by Australia, they are batting brilliantly and bowling performance is amazing. But at the moment, Netherlands are under a lot of pressure in batting. They still need to collect 110 runs from 77 balls to reach the goal of victory, which will be a very difficult challenge for the Netherlands.

[MusaPk]

Yet we have to consider them as a better team than West Indies for now. Because they have qualified by playing in the World Cup qualifier, some teams are stronger than others and some others are weak. We cannot expect competition from every one of them. But the good thing about the Netherlands is that they have improved their game in the last few years. The problem is they did not get enough chances to play against stronger teams like Australia except in these ICC tournaments. They have some players who never played against India yet, They have players who did not played against Pakistan yet.

The main reason why WI is not in this WC is because there players are mostly interested in T20 leagues and not much preference is given to ODI and Test. We see WI players in every league but there national team is undergoing a huge crisis for years now. May be this ODI WC break will give WI cricket board and players to think about how to move forward.

[pakhitheboss]

Pakistan VS Newzealand

Like i mentioned during the Asia cup. Middle overs, lack of quality spinners and over dependence on seam bowling could be the downfall of this team.

They only rely on seamers to take plenty of wickets in the first 10 overs with the new ball, after that, everything depends on kudrat ka karisma.

Batting - Good
New ball- death bowling - Simply amazing
Spin- Mediocre at best
Fielding- It's improved a lot but they still manage to fumble when it matters most.

There is another big problem with the Pakistani team, if they do not get any wickets in the first 10 overs then their bowlers tend to get confused. The first two bowling halves of their seamers are important for the team to make a difference with their bowling attack. The next issue is with the opening pairs, they seem to lack the skills to play an ODI. If Babar or Rizwan do not perform then those coming after them would lose their wickets under pressure.

[tsaroz]

Pakistan VS Newzealand

Like i mentioned during the Asia cup. Middle overs, lack of quality spinners and over dependence on seam bowling could be the downfall of this team.

They only rely on seamers to take plenty of wickets in the first 10 overs with the new ball, after that, everything depends on kudrat ka karisma.

Batting - Good
New ball- death bowling - Simply amazing
Spin- Mediocre at best
Fielding- It's improved a lot but they still manage to fumble when it matters most.

There is another big problem with the Pakistani team, if they do not get any wickets in the first 10 overs then their bowlers tend to get confused. The first two bowling halves of their seamers are important for the team to make a difference with their bowling attack. The next issue is with the opening pairs, they seem to lack the skills to play an ODI. If Babar or Rizwan do not perform then those coming after them would lose their wickets under pressure.

Pakistani bowling is really confusing. Either they work and makes the team win or don't work and feels like an associate team bowling. Spin has been historically a less proritized genre in Pakistani cricket and they still lack them.
Pakistan certainly have one of the balanced team with excellent individual players. I had a high hope over the Pakistani team after years prior to the Asian cup but their loss with India and Sri Lanka showed they lack the consistency.

[JSRAW]

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There is another big problem with the Pakistani team, if they do not get any wickets in the first 10 overs then their bowlers tend to get confused. The first two bowling halves of their seamers are important for the team to make a difference with their bowling attack. The next issue is with the opening pairs, they seem to lack the skills to play an ODI. If Babar or Rizwan do not perform then those coming after them would lose their wickets under pressure.

Before the Asia Cup, the Pakistani team were looking almost invincible or at least a strong contender for the WC but somehow they got exposed and opponents can notice some chinks in their armor.

Having said that, I think this kind of reality check is good for Pakistan or any team because sometimes it could turn into a blessing in disguise, given they are working hard on such problems.

[pakhitheboss]

Before the Asia Cup, the Pakistani team were looking almost invincible or at least a strong contender for the WC but somehow they got exposed and opponents can notice some chinks in their armor.

Having said that, I think this kind of reality check is good for Pakistan or any team because sometimes it could turn into a blessing in disguise, given they are working hard on such problems.

The current situation is basically suggesting that we should not talk about the Pakistani team. What I would like to know is which teams will be in the semifinals. I believe that India, England, Australia, and South Africa can be the teams which will be in those rounds. I do think this tournament largely depends on the teams that have a good batting lineup. While there are a lot of batters in different teams who have the potential to change the game, India in general is looking still weak.

[LDL]

Before the Asia Cup, the Pakistani team were looking almost invincible or at least a strong contender for the WC but somehow they got exposed and opponents can notice some chinks in their armor.

Having said that, I think this kind of reality check is good for Pakistan or any team because sometimes it could turn into a blessing in disguise, given they are working hard on such problems.

The current situation is basically suggesting that we should not talk about the Pakistani team. What I would like to know is which teams will be in the semifinals. I believe that India, England, Australia, and South Africa can be the teams which will be in those rounds. I do think this tournament largely depends on the teams that have a good batting lineup. While there are a lot of batters in different teams who have the potential to change the game, India in general is looking still weak.

Actually it is not possible to think any advance about the Pakistan team because Pakistan was considered as the most favorite team in this year's Asia Cup but in the end Pakistan could not play the final but got knocked out from the final after losing to Sri Lanka. However, in this year's ICC ODI World Cup, England and Australia are considered as the favorite teams and they are likely to play in the semi-finals and final. However, South Africa and India are also likely to make it to the semi-finals. However, the rest of the teams, especially Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and the Netherlands, have no chance of playing in the semi-finals, but all these teams can cause any untoward incident with the favorite teams. For example, the shock of Bangladesh defeating India in this year's Asia Cup is one such example.

[JSRAW]

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The current situation is basically suggesting that we should not talk about the Pakistani team. What I would like to know is which teams will be in the semifinals. I believe that India, England, Australia, and South Africa can be the teams which will be in those rounds. I do think this tournament largely depends on the teams that have a good batting lineup. While there are a lot of batters in different teams who have the potential to change the game, India in general is looking still weak.

For the semis, I'd go with the usual suspects because it's freaking 10 teams tournaments. Quite a hilarious and pathetic scene at the same time.

India + Australia + England are fixed as these teams usually cover their all departments. Be it bowling, batting or fielding. Aussies are a bit short in the spin department tho.

Then we have to bet on 4th semi finalist. Traditional wisdom says New Zealand and Pakistan but this time South Africa is looking alright too.

[Shishir99]

The main reason why WI is not in this WC is because there players are mostly interested in T20 leagues and not much preference is given to ODI and Test. We see WI players in every league but there national team is undergoing a huge crisis for years now. May be this ODI WC break will give WI cricket board and players to think about how to move forward.

The board and the cricketers, no one cares about the failure. Because most of the players care about money. The board is corrupted. The board does not give facilities to their players and their salary is low (the players accused it years ago). So their players decided to play according to their will. If the board does not have a contract with a player, as other countries' boards have with their players, they won't be able to control players. If players are not interested in a contract, you cannot force them. Players like Pollard, and Narine play in T20 tournaments because they make money from there. The amount is well enough. But the West Indies board does not pay well to their players.

[TheGreatPython]

Before the Asia Cup, the Pakistani team were looking almost invincible or at least a strong contender for the WC but somehow they got exposed and opponents can notice some chinks in their armor.

Having said that, I think this kind of reality check is good for Pakistan or any team because sometimes it could turn into a blessing in disguise, given they are working hard on such problems.

The current situation is basically suggesting that we should not talk about the Pakistani team. What I would like to know is which teams will be in the semifinals. I believe that India, England, Australia, and South Africa can be the teams which will be in those rounds. I do think this tournament largely depends on the teams that have a good batting lineup. While there are a lot of batters in different teams who have the potential to change the game, India in general is looking still weak.

I agree with you about this all and surely also having few teams as strong candidate for the last four, but we need to understand these Indian conditions are never been easy for the teams like South Africa and England with I have two teams into last four and for other two we will have tough competition like England, New Zealand, South Africa and Pakistan all are having equal chance and any team on his day can turn for the spot into last four.

New Zealand and South Africa recently have good success which is good for them and England are also doing good and capable of giving their best for the spot Pakistan is always an unpredictable side which can't be out of the race until last ball as we all know about their nature and history in this competition.

[MusaPk]

The board and the cricketers, no one cares about the failure. Because most of the players care about money. The board is corrupted. The board does not give facilities to their players and their salary is low (the players accused it years ago). So their players decided to play according to their will. If the board does not have a contract with a player, as other countries' boards have with their players, they won't be able to control players. If players are not interested in a contract, you cannot force them. Players like Pollard, and Narine play in T20 tournaments because they make money from there. The amount is well enough. But the West Indies board does not pay well to their players.

The bottom line is WI cricket is suffering due to this row between players and board. WI once was an unbeaten team and everyone fear to face them. They have produced bowlers like Wash and Ambrose but now they have collapsed to a level that they are not included in even ODI world cup. If the row continue then WI will surely miss next T20 WC.

[Fuso.hp]

After beating Sri Lanka, Bangladesh now aim to beat former World Cup winners England in the second warm-up match. Bangladesh may rest two openers in this match against England as they were quite uncomfortable due to overheating in the match against Sri Lanka due to which BCB may decide to get a full strength team against Afghanistan. 

According to the weather forecast there is a high chance of rain in the second match and nothing will be done if this match is abandoned due to rain. So far only two warm-up matches have been rain-free and all the remaining matches have been abandoned due to rain. 

England's first match was abandoned due to rain so England will definitely want to beat Bangladesh in the second and final warm-up match to start the World Cup undefeated before the World Cup.

[Out of mind]

Pakistan VS Newzealand

Like i mentioned during the Asia cup. Middle overs, lack of quality spinners and over dependence on seam bowling could be the downfall of this team.

They only rely on seamers to take plenty of wickets in the first 10 overs with the new ball, after that, everything depends on kudrat ka karisma.

Batting - Good
New ball- death bowling - Simply amazing
Spin- Mediocre at best
Fielding- It's improved a lot but they still manage to fumble when it matters most.

There is another big problem with the Pakistani team, if they do not get any wickets in the first 10 overs then their bowlers tend to get confused. The first two bowling halves of their seamers are important for the team to make a difference with their bowling attack. The next issue is with the opening pairs, they seem to lack the skills to play an ODI. If Babar or Rizwan do not perform then those coming after them would lose their wickets under pressure.

Yes, this is the biggest problem for the Pakistan team, if the bowlers don't take any wickets in the first 10 overs then they feel a lot of statement as a result of which their bowling line starts performing badly. Whenever they disrupt their bowling line, Pakistan team is completely confused in the game. If they perform well from the start and take wickets, they can do well in the end. In the same way they have a bad habit of batting too, if Babar Azam and Rizwan are performing well then every batsman tries to play well. And if those two players luckily get out without batting well, then no other player can hold the game and their poor performance starts. This is the biggest problem for the Pakistan team, if Pakistan can overcome this problem, they will definitely have a chance to reach the semi-finals in the World Cup.

[pakhitheboss]

For the semis, I'd go with the usual suspects because it's freaking 10 teams tournaments. Quite a hilarious and pathetic scene at the same time.

India + Australia + England are fixed as these teams usually cover their all departments. Be it bowling, batting or fielding. Aussies are a bit short in the spin department tho.

Then we have to bet on 4th semi finalist. Traditional wisdom says New Zealand and Pakistan but this time South Africa is looking alright too.

I will go with South Africa and Newzealand who will be fighting for the 4th one in the semifinals. South Africa has suddenly emerged as a team that could create some bad memories for the top 3 you predicted. Pakistan I would have chosen them before the Asia Cup fiasco. They are visibly struggling with their bowling department. Fielding was never their upselling point and is okayish as per me, batting depends on whether Babar and Rizwan are able to score big.

[Bureau]

NZ vs SA

The practice match between these two teams has started. NZ won the toss and are batting first, they have lost Young. Williamson and Conway are looking good, looks like a partnership in the making. As it is a practice match I am not expecting these two batters to stay till the end. After they score 50 runs they might retire Hurst, as seen last time. The pitch doesn't favour the bowlers but sometimes the ball can remain low.

[Unknown Op]

Today Sixth and Seventh Warm up matches lived

First of all I discuss about Sixth warm up match Bangladesh against England. England's first match of these waem up matches was not played against India because of rain and we can not see performance of England at this time how they will in Warm up matches. Bangladesh won previous against Sri Lanka and this time Bangladesh also showing well performance that they will give tough time to England. Now let's check out how they perform today.

Next seventh match played by New Zealand against South Africa. I feel that New Zealand easily will win this match if wee see their match performance then they defend huge target that was given by Pakistan. Now they batting first in crease and at this time they lost their one wickets Devon Conway and made 85 runs 16 overs. At the ending of their batting, let's see Howa much runs of target they will give to South Africa.

[Bureau]

First of all I discuss about Sixth warm up match Bangladesh against England. England's first match of these waem up matches was not played against India because of rain and we can not see performance of England at this time how they will in Warm up matches. Bangladesh won previous against Sri Lanka and this time Bangladesh also showing well performance that they will give tough time to England. Now let's check out how they perform today.

I don't think England would have much problem against Bangladesh. They are the best in white ball cricket, meanwhile Bangladesh have been not at their best. The did play well against Srilanka that doesn't mean it will easy for them against England. Their pace attack is good and thier spin attack too.

The match has already started, Bangladesh won the toss and choose to bat first. They have lost 3 wickets, have scored 83 runs in 18 overs. As expected it is a bad start for Bangladesh, their current run rate is less than 5, that is not at all good.