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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 18

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March 28, 2024, 05:18:47 AM
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Eh, I've seen a lot of matches where the better side failed to win or even lose the match in cup competition, so dismissing them way too early is never a good call. I mean there are tons of comebacks like Liverpool vs Barca, Barca vs PSG, etc that show how a match can be affected by many things, not as simple as "better players = win". We could argue that Qarabag is not that weak, they managed to score 4 goals against Leverkusen after all. I mean Liverpool also failed to win many "easy matches" this season. The game is still open.
I agree with you. The match against Qarabag was one of Leverkusen's toughest matches this season. But I think there are many factors that influence the match. Sometimes a team can perform poorly. So we can't judge Leverkusen from just one match. Liverpool can use the tactics used by Qarabag to expose Leverkusen's weaknesses, but Leverkusen can also look at several of Liverpool's matches in the EPL to see their weaknesses. Each team still has the same chance of becoming champion. The biggest opportunity is of course Liverpool, but Leverkusen could surprise everyone.

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March 28, 2024, 05:33:15 AM
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Daniele De Rossi is not experienced but he is talented. He was able to find out the problems of Roma. And with the help of Daniele De Rossi we can clearly see the change in Roma's overall performance. Roma team is consistently able to perform well now. In Serie A they are trying to qualify for the Champions League, while also continuing to fight for the Europa League title.
De Rossi was a talented and legendary player but as a head coach, I am unsure he is a talented coach. Last season, he failed as a head coach in Serie B; this season he is gaining success with Roma but it is still very early to say about his ability as a head coach.

Do you remember André Villas-Boas? After his success with Porto, many years later nobody mention him in football at highest level because his coach career fails seriously after his success with Porto.

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I'm not sure if Roma can play well against Milan in the Europa League. However, the Roma team is more experienced than Milan on the Europa League platform. However, Milan's past matches against Roma have not been good. Roma have not won a single match against Milan in the last 5 matches. Lost three matches and drew two. Looking forward to see how Roma fares in the upcoming match with the help of Daniele De Rossi.
AC Milan are stronger and more experienced than Roma from their players to coach, but Roma and De Rossi will want to prove themselves. With De Rossi, if he can help Roma to win against AC Milan in quarter finals, he will achieve another step to prove his management ability. With Roma, they will move closer to another Europa League final match after the lost final match last season against Sevilla through penalty shootouts.

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March 28, 2024, 06:50:03 AM
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AS Roma's playing philosophy changed quite drastically after being handled by Daniele De Rossi, prefer for all players keep active for attacking and De Rossi didn't really care about how many goals were conceded in each match as long as he was still able to win the match. I like with this games tactician regarding Jose Mourinho prefer playing more defensive than offensive, drastically change with AS Roma game plan after managing by Danie De Rossi and every match seems easily for Roma scoring many goals.

I have difference viewed under Daniele De Rossi he can give great achievement for AS Roma in Europe League, on quarter final will face AC Milan and has difference scheme will make Milan should think the best scheme how to stop Roma ability for scoring as many goals on the first and second leg matches.
I also really like the changes that have occurred in the Roma squad, especially in the playing patterns or strategies used by De Rossi for Roma. And actually the strategy used by De Rossi reminds me of the attack pattern used by Girona in Laliga which even succeeded in causing strong teams to lose. Even in the league, Girona beat Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. And yeah that's a great achievement. And I think De Rossi will also be able to make Roma get a better level of play and it's possible that Milan will also have big problems when facing Roma. It's just that Milan does have a fairly capable squad. So the Roma vs Milan match will continue to be quite fierce and difficult to predict.

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March 28, 2024, 07:04:23 AM
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I will try something and bet on the opposite of bookmakers favor in two of these matchups. One will be West Ham and the other one will be Roma.

Milan - Roma should already be considered as a really close matchup though. Unlike the gap between their championship odds I see them having near equal chance. Roma are much better as you have also mentioned. Milan are a really challenging opponent for them here maybe but this time they have a bigger chance with De Rossi.

Leverkusen are of course quite the favourite against West Ham on paper. However seeing them having big difficulties against Qarabag for some reason tells me to give West Ham a chance with a small bet. I'm doing this just for fun so let's see what happens.  Smiley

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March 28, 2024, 07:17:18 AM
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Eh, I've seen a lot of matches where the better side failed to win or even lose the match in cup competition, so dismissing them way too early is never a good call. I mean there are tons of comebacks like Liverpool vs Barca, Barca vs PSG, etc that show how a match can be affected by many things, not as simple as "better players = win". We could argue that Qarabag is not that weak, they managed to score 4 goals against Leverkusen after all. I mean Liverpool also failed to win many "easy matches" this season. The game is still open.
I agree with you. The match against Qarabag was one of Leverkusen's toughest matches this season. But I think there are many factors that influence the match. Sometimes a team can perform poorly. So we can't judge Leverkusen from just one match. Liverpool can use the tactics used by Qarabag to expose Leverkusen's weaknesses, but Leverkusen can also look at several of Liverpool's matches in the EPL to see their weaknesses. Each team still has the same chance of becoming champion. The biggest opportunity is of course Liverpool, but Leverkusen could surprise everyone.
Qarabag was almost make it happen but some goals by Leverkusen's player at the end of the game crushed Leverkusen's dreams and yes, xabi's team deserved it after working so hard until the last minute to qualify for the next stage. I need to give a lot of credit to the leverkusen for not giving up. The better for xabi to focus on the upcoming Leverkusen game.
 It's very pointless to talk about Leverkusen and Liverpool because we're still a long way to go from that match. Thing can change if Leverkusen loses in this round, which would also end all of our hopes of seeing Liverpool face Leverkusen in the final. Liverpool will face West Ham which is a stronger team than Qarabag and it must be careful.
Leverkusen must be fully prepared to face West Ham. Leverkusen may be struggling against West Ham and i think this is gonna be a hard game that may be going till penalty. West Ham is not a strong EPL team, but westham has the potential to make Leverkusen struggle to win the game. The better for Leverkusen to concentrate on the upcoming game.
Im so confident in  if leverkusen will be winning the game soon considering that if westham is in the process to decline from the top to the bottom again. David moyes probably sacked by the club if he will fail in the europa league. West Ham will knock Leverkusen out of the Europa League this season considering that if qarabag was almost doing it. Xabi failed last season, so it's best if he can focus entirely on the upcoming game and pay what he has been missed last season.

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March 28, 2024, 07:53:04 AM
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I will try something and bet on the opposite of bookmakers favor in two of these matchups. One will be West Ham and the other one will be Roma.

Milan - Roma should already be considered as a really close matchup though. Unlike the gap between their championship odds I see them having near equal chance. Roma are much better as you have also mentioned. Milan are a really challenging opponent for them here maybe but this time they have a bigger chance with De Rossi.

Leverkusen are of course quite the favourite against West Ham on paper. However seeing them having big difficulties against Qarabag for some reason tells me to give West Ham a chance with a small bet. I'm doing this just for fun so let's see what happens.  Smiley
If you take the risk of betting on an underdog team, it seems like you should consider it.
there's no harm in trying your luck with a smaller amount, but you have to think about whether to bet on the first leg or second leg.
maybe it would be more natural if you bet on Roma and West Ham in the second leg match because in my opinion Leverkusen and Milan as the home team will get a big score playing at home and in the second leg Milan and Leverkusen will probably lose but even if they lose, Milan and Leverkusen will still qualify for the next round because their aggregate score is much greater in the first leg.
this is not advice, but all this needs to be considered again before you regret it.

even though currently West Ham and Roma could be strong challengers to Leverkusen and Milan, I believe the two favorite teams will qualify for the semi finals.

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March 28, 2024, 07:59:29 AM
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I agree with you. The match against Qarabag was one of Leverkusen's toughest matches this season. But I think there are many factors that influence the match. Sometimes a team can perform poorly. So we can't judge Leverkusen from just one match. Liverpool can use the tactics used by Qarabag to expose Leverkusen's weaknesses, but Leverkusen can also look at several of Liverpool's matches in the EPL to see their weaknesses. Each team still has the same chance of becoming champion. The biggest opportunity is of course Liverpool, but Leverkusen could surprise everyone.
Against qarabag, Leverkusen did almost got me thinking they may loose that game but I was Later impressed by their comeback and it really did showed how much of a better side they were to their opponent, it at first did looked like they were going to suffer their first loss for the season but then it turned out they were much more ahead of their opponent so they got a come back and won I loved the fact that they won the game in that style.

Qarabag was not expecting that to happen I think, they may have felt like they were already going to win because it was already looking like they were already ahead and by two goals is enough to keep their opponent away from winning but then it later took them by surprise and I did enjoyed every bit of it. If you even look at both teams, Leverkusen is in a much more better form than qarabag but yet it looked like they had a tough game against a team that could be considered weak against them, Leverkusen is in a league that's more competitive than the domestic league of qarabag yet it almost looked like qarabag was such a tough team.

Quarabag in their domestic league isn't even topping their league which is no way compared to the bundesliga so for them to be able to have really fought Leverkusen that good and almost caused a threat, I think it's very fair to say they actually tried because they weren't consider a match for Leverkusen as both in depth and strength they are both not in the same strength but then they are doing well so far.

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March 28, 2024, 08:10:17 AM
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I will try something and bet on the opposite of bookmakers favor in two of these matchups. One will be West Ham and the other one will be Roma.

Milan - Roma should already be considered as a really close matchup though. Unlike the gap between their championship odds I see them having near equal chance. Roma are much better as you have also mentioned. Milan are a really challenging opponent for them here maybe but this time they have a bigger chance with De Rossi.
If De Rossi let Roma play attacking in quarter finals, it will be very risky for Roma because AC Milan are experienced enough in knock out matches and they have enough star players to punish any mistake from Roma players.

I agree their matches will be very balancing and they are challenging opponent for each other so to beat their opponent, they will need to play very excellently or need their opponent to make mistake and give them a big gift to score winning goals or perhaps mistakes from referees and VAR referees.

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Leverkusen are of course quite the favourite against West Ham on paper. However seeing them having big difficulties against Qarabag for some reason tells me to give West Ham a chance with a small bet. I'm doing this just for fun so let's see what happens.  Smiley
Leverkusen are stronger than West Ham but their matches against Qarabag are signals that Leverkusen have weaknesses that can be exploited by West Ham. Compare Qarabag and West Ham, West Ham are stronger and if Leverkusen repeats what they did in two matches with Qarabag, they will be knocked out by West Ham in quarter finals.

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March 28, 2024, 08:44:44 AM
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If De Rossi let Roma play attacking in quarter finals, it will be very risky for Roma because AC Milan are experienced enough in knock out matches and they have enough star players to punish any mistake from Roma players.

I agree their matches will be very balancing and they are challenging opponent for each other so to beat their opponent, they will need to play very excellently or need their opponent to make mistake and give them a big gift to score winning goals or perhaps mistakes from referees and VAR referees.

But if Roma don't play attacking it might be more difficult for them to eliminate Milan. Because I don't think Roma are really good at playing a defensive game. That boring style of Mourinho was one of the reasons why they didn't have a successful run in the Serie A. They should be able to make up for their defensive weaknesses with their attacking strength.

You have a point about Milan though. We saw what they did to Napoli in the Champions League last season. This is what making them the favourite of the matchup here. But we will see whether they will show another example of that.

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March 28, 2024, 09:34:25 AM
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I will try something and bet on the opposite of bookmakers favor in two of these matchups. One will be West Ham and the other one will be Roma.

Milan - Roma should already be considered as a really close matchup though. Unlike the gap between their championship odds I see them having near equal chance. Roma are much better as you have also mentioned. Milan are a really challenging opponent for them here maybe but this time they have a bigger chance with De Rossi.

Leverkusen are of course quite the favourite against West Ham on paper. However seeing them having big difficulties against Qarabag for some reason tells me to give West Ham a chance with a small bet. I'm doing this just for fun so let's see what happens.  Smiley

I think in the Milan and Roma game, it is clear that Milan will be the favourites in that game, and of course I can see how Milan have performed in the league so far which has been quite consistent, indeed Roma is not an easy team to beat especially since the era of de Rossi coaching, but I think it is too risky to bet your money on their victory in that game,  I don't mean to belittle Roma but I don't see if Roma have anything that can indeed be favored in the game against Milan except maybe Pioli who is a little blind to De Rossi's strategy, other than that of course Milan will be able to beat Roma like they did in the previous two games in the league.

Leverkusen is the favorite in the game, but Westham is also not a team that will be easy to beat, especially so far Westham has also performed quite impressive in the league, in addition to the lack of statistics and head to head of the two teams so far the official league, of course, it is difficult for us to predict who the team will win in the game, but even so the betting market installs Leverkusen as the favorite to win.
What you do in my opinion is quite reasonable, because it is really Supposed that we should go against the flow by Placing Bets on the not favorite team, because indeed in football all Possibilities can happen, besides that with small Bets but do not rule out the possibility that we can win bigger.

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March 28, 2024, 10:12:55 AM
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Daniele De Rossi is not experienced but he is talented. He was able to find out the problems of Roma. And with the help of Daniele De Rossi we can clearly see the change in Roma's overall performance. Roma team is consistently able to perform well now. In Serie A they are trying to qualify for the Champions League, while also continuing to fight for the Europa League title.

I'm not sure if Roma can play well against Milan in the Europa League. However, the Roma team is more experienced than Milan on the Europa League platform. However, Milan's past matches against Roma have not been good. Roma have not won a single match against Milan in the last 5 matches. Lost three matches and drew two. Looking forward to see how Roma fares in the upcoming match with the help of Daniele De Rossi.

That's why this match will be a crucial match for De Rossi and his team when they meet AC Milan in the Europa League quarter-finals, as well as being a big challenge for De Rossi to break AC Milan's dominance. so, this match should present an interesting match between the two teams from the Serie A League. Talking about De Rossi, he brought AS Roma to a quite impressive performance. although, some of the teams they played against were mediocre teams. but at least, from his 13 matches with Roma. Rossi was able to bring his team to win 9 matches, 2 draws, 2 defeats, in two different competitions. the tactics and strategies promoted by De Rossi are quite effective, even though many people doubt them. what's unique about this coach is that he brings an offensive system and pattern. so, Roma when handled by Jose Mourinho and De Rossi was different.

Well, talking about the quarter-final match between Milan vs Roma, I'm pretty sure Roma will put up resistance. especially if we refer to the odds provided by gambling bookies, even if only temporarily. after all, both teams have quite big odds, at least this match has the potential to end in a draw. or, maybe there is a surprise that AS Roma will present. Let's just wait, these two teams will meet, especially to research and analyze them before the Europa League quarter-final match is held. let's wait, which team will win the fight.


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March 28, 2024, 12:56:27 PM
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Eh, I've seen a lot of matches where the better side failed to win or even lose the match in cup competition, so dismissing them way too early is never a good call. I mean there are tons of comebacks like Liverpool vs Barca, Barca vs PSG, etc that show how a match can be affected by many things, not as simple as "better players = win". We could argue that Qarabag is not that weak, they managed to score 4 goals against Leverkusen after all. I mean Liverpool also failed to win many "easy matches" this season. The game is still open.
I agree with you. The match against Qarabag was one of Leverkusen's toughest matches this season. But I think there are many factors that influence the match. Sometimes a team can perform poorly. So we can't judge Leverkusen from just one match. Liverpool can use the tactics used by Qarabag to expose Leverkusen's weaknesses, but Leverkusen can also look at several of Liverpool's matches in the EPL to see their weaknesses. Each team still has the same chance of becoming champion. The biggest opportunity is of course Liverpool, but Leverkusen could surprise everyone.
the match against Qarabag was actually not a difficult match for Bayer Leverkusen, even though they conceded 4 goals, in fact Bayer Leverkusen did not suffer a defeat when playing away from home, a draw is not a bad result in the first leg because Bayer Leverkusen can still turn things around in the second leg if they play as the home team and Bayer Leverkusen really used their time well to win the match and qualify for the top 8. A match that could be said to be difficult for Bayer Leverkusen is in the top 8 because they will face Westham, a team from the EPL, but I am sure that even though Bayer Leverkusen is experiencing difficulties, they will still be able to get through it.



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March 28, 2024, 02:42:18 PM
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In my opinion, teams from Serie A are only able to advance to the semifinals. For me, that's the best achievement for a Serie A team. Either Milan or Roma, but I want a team from the Bundesliga, Leverkusen, who will beat them to be able to meet Liverpool.

We want the European League final between Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen.
If there was a final match between Liverpool vs Bayern Leverkusen, perhaps this would be the most luxurious final round ever. I also believe that the final match will beat the interest of the UCL final round.

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I dont know why but i can feel a final between Liverpool and Rome, if Rome has the enoguht luck in his side they can be in the final and De Rossi seems like he have that and plus the players are with him 100%.

For me Leverkusen is not gonna reach the final. They are gonna be very bussy with Bundesliga and they are not so good on head to head.

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March 28, 2024, 03:53:03 PM
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I also really like the changes that have occurred in the Roma squad, especially in the playing patterns or strategies used by De Rossi for Roma. And actually the strategy used by De Rossi reminds me of the attack pattern used by Girona in Laliga which even succeeded in causing strong teams to lose. Even in the league, Girona beat Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. And yeah that's a great achievement. And I think De Rossi will also be able to make Roma get a better level of play and it's possible that Milan will also have big problems when facing Roma. It's just that Milan does have a fairly capable squad. So the Roma vs Milan match will continue to be quite fierce and difficult to predict.
It is difficult to compare Roma with Girona, all their similarities end with the fact that both of these teams try to use an attacking model in their strategies. In addition, Girona has been doing worse lately, while Roma has become more effective. To be honest, I don’t know if Roma will be able to cause problems for Milan, most likely both teams will score, since Milan’s defense is not ideal, but the attack works quite well. And I doubt that De Rossi will decide to change tactics for the match with Milan, and switch to a defensive game.

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AS Roma's playing philosophy changed quite drastically after being handled by Daniele De Rossi, prefer for all players keep active for attacking and De Rossi didn't really care about how many goals were conceded in each match as long as he was still able to win the match. I like with this games tactician regarding Jose Mourinho prefer playing more defensive than offensive, drastically change with AS Roma game plan after managing by Danie De Rossi and every match seems easily for Roma scoring many goals.

You know when Jose Mourinho was sacked and replaced by Daniele De Rossi, a lot of football lovers were questioning the ability of De Rossi to handle AS Roma above the standard Jose Mourinho kept it before his departure but when Daniele De Rossi came on board as Roma's manager he cleared everyone's doubt about his capacity to lead the club to winning ways, Roma were literally winning matches without stress due to De Rossi's technical coaching skills. I tell people that one thing that improves a team is having an understanding between the players and their coach because Jose Mourinho was kinda authoritative to Roma players as compared with the Rossi that spent so much time with the club during his time as Roma's player and it's obvious he knows the football dynamics of Roma hence he applied technical skills that has led to his successes with the club so far.

Basically, we all know that Jose Mourinho is a defensive coach right from previous teams he had coached so that is his own pattern but you can agree with me that the best form of defense is to attack of which that is what De Rossi is doing for AS Roma and we can see the remarkable results he has been able to achieve so far.

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March 28, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
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I dont know why but i can feel a final between Liverpool and Rome, if Rome has the enoguht luck in his side they can be in the final and De Rossi seems like he have that and plus the players are with him 100%.

For me Leverkusen is not gonna reach the final. They are gonna be very bussy with Bundesliga and they are not so good on head to head.

That possibility could happen, but Roma must beat Milan. Roma actually didn't perform that well, but they could be very strong in the deciding match.
Even though I'm not really sure Roma can make it to the final round, the chances are not bad either. while on the other hand, Leverkusen has a good chance this season with the Bundesliga and Europa League. They can achieve big achievements this season and there is no reason to only focus on the Bundesliga.
The teams currently in the quarter-finals certainly consider Leverkusen's strength this season. they cannot be underestimated.



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March 28, 2024, 04:23:40 PM
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I dont know why but i can feel a final between Liverpool and Rome, if Rome has the enoguht luck in his side they can be in the final and De Rossi seems like he have that and plus the players are with him 100%.

For me Leverkusen is not gonna reach the final. They are gonna be very bussy with Bundesliga and they are not so good on head to head.

That possibility could happen, but Roma must beat Milan. Roma actually didn't perform that well, but they could be very strong in the deciding match.
Even though I'm not really sure Roma can make it to the final round, the chances are not bad either. while on the other hand, Leverkusen has a good chance this season with the Bundesliga and Europa League. They can achieve big achievements this season and there is no reason to only focus on the Bundesliga.
The teams currently in the quarter-finals certainly consider Leverkusen's strength this season. they cannot be underestimated.
It seems you didn't understand how the Quarter finals and semi finals draw in the UEFA Europa League competition was made but the f that's the case, I'll do my best to explain a little more for you. Roma and Bayer Leverkusen have been very impressive in the competition since the start of the season but considering how the remaining knockout stages of the competition have been drawn, the two teams can only meet each other in the semi finals should they eliminate their quarter final opponents. So if they meet each other in the semi finals, one will be eliminated while the other one will progress to the finals of the competition.
Bayer Leverkusen and Liverpool are the two clubs that's been considered as the favorites of the competition and I think the two clubs are going to meet in the final

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March 28, 2024, 05:02:57 PM
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I dont know why but i can feel a final between Liverpool and Rome, if Rome has the enoguht luck in his side they can be in the final and De Rossi seems like he have that and plus the players are with him 100%.

For me Leverkusen is not gonna reach the final. They are gonna be very bussy with Bundesliga and they are not so good on head to head.
Leverkusen is quite comfortable at the top of the Bundesliga standings with a 10 point lead so I think that way they don't have any pressure in the Bundesliga so they can focus on their Europa League matches.
I don't think what you say has a strong reason, it's impossible for Leverkusen to put aside the Europa League for the sake of the Bundesliga which they are almost certain to get.

Roma does have quite good strength and has experienced very significant improvements since De Rossi's arrival, but I don't think it's easy, even in the quarter-finals against AC Milan, I don't think Roma's chances of qualifying are much greater.

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March 28, 2024, 05:53:07 PM
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I will try something and bet on the opposite of bookmakers favor in two of these matchups. One will be West Ham and the other one will be Roma.

Milan - Roma should already be considered as a really close matchup though. Unlike the gap between their championship odds I see them having near equal chance. Roma are much better as you have also mentioned. Milan are a really challenging opponent for them here maybe but this time they have a bigger chance with De Rossi.

Leverkusen are of course quite the favourite against West Ham on paper. However seeing them having big difficulties against Qarabag for some reason tells me to give West Ham a chance with a small bet. I'm doing this just for fun so let's see what happens.  Smiley

Do you want to bet on West Ham reaching the semi-finals or on them winning the individual game? In general, on the one hand, it makes sense to bet against Bayer, because they can’t never lose. But on the other hand, I don’t yet see that such a bet could be made with good odds. Even at home for Bayer, the game quotes are very modest:

1.55 – 4.10 – 6.20

It seems to me that here it is more profitable to take +55% on the favorite’s victory than to look for luck on the side of the outsider.

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