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September 27, 2023, 09:56:53 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

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September 27, 2023, 10:08:48 AM
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Getting a degree & being well educated certainly helps to get a good job but it’s not a necessity. If you have a skill or a really good, outgoing personality you can earn just as much, if not more money than somebody is much more intelligent than you. I know lots of people who went to college & ended up being teachers. I didn’t go to college & I am far more financially successful than all of them. Also you are here on bitcointalk.org, you don’t need a degree to buy bitcoin & become wealthy that way.

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September 27, 2023, 10:19:35 AM
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I don't know where do you live. In the most developed countries, the educational system(universities and college) is slowly turning into a scam. The students have to pay absurd tuition fees and get into student debt only to find out that's it's hard for them to get a good job after they graduate. Having a university degree makes sense only if you want to pursue a career as a government clerk, lawyer or doctor.
If you want to work in other industries(in the private sector) having skills and experience are more important than a diploma.

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September 27, 2023, 10:32:42 AM
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Academic can get you pussy magnet. No doubt some girl are attracted to highly skilled career such as lawyer, accountant, teacher, doctor, obviously in hope of benefiting from the high income promised by the career. I do not know whether middle classes like this still relevant today, it seem middle classes today has been shrinking much faster, even many middle classes employees decide to quit their jobs due to stress.

Can higher academic promise income? May be not so much, but I would confidently tell you you can easily attract many chicks with high education background, because being highly educated still make you very high value compare and standout compare to 99% of the losers on the street. Many girls would definitely throw themselves to you immediately. To marry high educated high income hubby. Smiley

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September 27, 2023, 10:48:39 AM
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~snip~  Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

I am sure that effort and hard work will ultimately bring goodness. In fact, there is no guarantee that economic and financial conditions will be better if we have a good academic degree, but those who have a good academic degree have a greater chance of getting a good job with a high salary. Life is about contestation and opportunities, whoever can take advantage of opportunities and work hard, I am sure he will get maximum results someday

So as long as there is still time and opportunity, I think there is no harm in studying and seeking an academic degree for the future. Even though we don't know what will happen in the future, we still have to try hard
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September 27, 2023, 11:45:18 AM
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Obtaining more academic degrees opens up an opportunity for you to have more social relationships. These relationships sometimes provide you with material gains if you exploit them well.

More education means more knowledge and the ability to analyze and deduce, which means you will have a better chance in the job market.
When you are employed, a higher degree means that you will be qualified for the job compared to someone who does not have a degree, but all of these data are related to the labor market and the availability of jobs. Is the competition to obtain these jobs fair or is it through mediation and the nature of competitors, as the more specialized your field is, the fewer people may want to learn it.

My advice to you is to have good knowledge about everything. Examine postgraduate studies and experience certificates in a field related to your studies in the lower degree, but it is not specialized, so that you have the opportunity to apply for several jobs if there is no job available for your degree.

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September 27, 2023, 11:47:13 AM
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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

If you are looking at financial wealth or probably wants to get so rich, i would say degrees doesn’t offer that, if you look at the list of the world most wealthiest people you wouldn’t find any professors there but rather entrepreneurs because this are things that actually bring direct profits. Even if you are educated and you are employed under someone and never have your own personally built source of income or have a share in someone’s business then you can’t get that super rich. Although they are jobs that pay you to be decently balanced and most people are comfortable about it, this isn’t also bad either because that’s your passion.

The People in countries where jobs are scarce and they go for more degrees are trying everything possible to up their chances in getting those few jobs available. Example is when an opening of job of graduates are open and not multiple positions are available then the recruitment team narrow their search by giving edge to those with added certifications like post graduates studies. This is part of the reason why most people go further in education. Another reason again is some go for specialized courses like in Tech probably because the courses they studied seems to have lots of unemployed graduates and specializing in an area gives you edge when that area is soothed after.

So it is not bad to get more degrees if you plan to practice your profession but when it is totally about been wealthy then only business provide you that and not multiple degrees

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September 27, 2023, 12:02:49 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better

We should not forget that knowledge is power. Nowadays, companies often prefer people with practical experience over just having a degree. But having both knowledge and experience is the best. It helps you stand out in the job market. So,no knowledge is wasted. Getting a good job also depends on how well you connect with others.

In countries where it's hard to find a good job, it's a good idea to learn useful skills and look for work locally. Because finding a better even with your degrees might not be easy. Unless you search for opportunities in a different country.

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September 27, 2023, 12:17:04 PM
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I don't know where you came from but mostly those rich countries will be focusing more on skills now. It is very different before and now because before if you graduated with a degree and even had rewards after you graduated you had a high chance that you would land a job and even companies were after you but right now I have noticed they are more into skills. Interviews right now the first step is to pass the test or exam before you can go to the second stage meaning even if you have a degree and do not have those skills you are useless.

If you have a chance to have a degree go for it but also build your skills along the way because that is your weapon in finding a job and competition right now in the job market is very huge.
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September 27, 2023, 12:26:43 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Having a professional degree represents your level of knowledge. It has nothing to do with your skills or practical knowledge. Gaining knowledge and having practical experience are two different things. In your working sector your practical knowledge is generally real value for your contribution. I have seen people paid more because of their efficiency in their jobs when they don't have a higher degree.

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September 27, 2023, 12:31:51 PM
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A diploma merely signifies that you've attended school, and in today's professional landscape, what truly matters is your skillset. Every company seeks employees who excel in their respective domains; a programmer need not be proficient in music, for instance. This implies that a programmer should excel in their chosen field. The testament to your skills nowadays takes the form of a portfolio.

Elevate yourself to excellence and become a maestro in a particular field. Showcase your work on social platforms like LinkedIn. This way, companies will come looking for you.


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September 27, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

To get many and high degrees is certainly not an easy thing and requires quite a long process. Most people want to get lots of degrees because they want to improve their career or position in an agency such as a government agency, where when someone wants to improve they also have to get the highest degree they previously got because in government agencies there are work groups which determine the amount of wages. work at the agency.

However, if you ask whether having many degrees can change their lives financially or not, this depends on themselves. If the results of this education can change their thinking into someone who is visionary and continues to think forward in the future. So I am sure that the results of the education they have received so far will not be in vain and can change their lives financially to become someone who is more financially stable. However, if the results of this education are not able to change their thoughts and behavior then no matter how many degrees they get will not be able to change anything.

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September 27, 2023, 12:45:26 PM
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What more degrees are you going to acquire? Are they health related, tech related? These are degrees if acquired can make you very highly competitive in the job market and around the world because your level of skill and competence increases. For instance there are countries that would grant your a talent visa and you automatically get a job and a residency permit just because of your degree and skill level.

For me, I prefer short courses. They are highly specialized and you don't have to spend years in the class room. More of practical hands on training.

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September 27, 2023, 12:54:37 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

I had to acknowledge the fact that having many academic degrees by going to masteral and doctorate could give you the upper hand in getting accepted for a certain high paying position. But I do not think that is the case anymore in today’s era.

In our family, I am the underdog despite the eldest of the siblings. My married sister has a masteral degree and my youngest has a high paying managerial position due to her outstanding college grades.

As for me? I had a guy who almost got kicked out twice by the university due to many failing grades. My transcript of records were ugly. But I didn’t give up. Still I am fortunate to have decent freelance jobs for years until I got into crypto that changed my life where I had more opportunities than ever not really caring about my academic performance or so.

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September 27, 2023, 01:07:14 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
You know the expression: those who study a lot have no time to earn money. I believe that the ability to make money is the ability to act and take advantage of the opportunities that are now available. There are guys who, even without a higher education, are capable of achieving excellent results in business, and there are those who have two or three higher educations, but they occupy low positions at work and think that they need another education to earn more. The ability to make money is the ability to find opportunities that always exist.

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September 27, 2023, 01:12:11 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
IMHO, that depends on the degree that you're getting as an addition on top of your first degree. But for some reasons, there is satisfying feeling when you attain these achievements like having two degrees at the same time.

But if it's about looking for more opportunities, you really have to move where there's a demand for that degree you own if ever you want to pursue that.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Unemployment these days is high but that doesn't mean that there's not that much opportunity globally. Yes, the metric that I am using is globally so if ever there's not that much opportunity in your area with that degree you have, you have to move somewhere else where you can use it.

For higher incomes, it's like having one degree + masters is more than enough and will cause you lesser time.

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September 27, 2023, 01:14:13 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Depends on location, have you asked the question why Asians and Africans run to Canada and UK for school and work, that is because in those places, there is demand for white-collar jobs, as long as you are a smart, dedicated person and know your job, you will always find a way to be called for a job most especially nurses and medical doctors, these discipline are in high demands but in places where the number of graduates in a particular discipline outnumbers the required people, then expect many graduates to roam about the street without any jobs after graduation.

The world is also moving from the traditional ways of education and school, there is this common notion back in the days when society believed that we are the leaders of tomorrow, you wake up and go to school, put in your best and come out with best grades but as time goes on, this are no longer the same anymore, we have successful people today in our society that didn't have certificates from class but today, they are earning millions in second from sports, from the entertainment industry like movies, music, entrepreneurship, and content creating as skill, these are all ways society has evolved to and its working and this is why some people don't value having standard school certificates to make it in life.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Not because they believe, it is the standard of society that you must pass through academics before you can make it in life but haven't we seen the number of people that have invalidated that, how many of Ronaldo's childhood friends can come out and say they have more money than him, players like Neymar and many more all went to football and turn to good leaves that society cherishes the most. Should we go into the music industry like Beyonce, Rihanna and Jay Z, a degree is not the only way to make it in life but if you do it while chasing other dreams is the best, you can be chasing the degree while still pursuing your football or music journey, kill two birds with one hand is better.

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September 27, 2023, 01:22:22 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Some jobs actually require you to get more degrees especially when you want to go into the academic line and become a doctor or a professor which will be an added advantage, and also in some offices too but aside from all that, no knowledge is a waste it will improve you in a way. and looking at the nature of some people naturally they enjoy reading books to improve their knowledge in a particular field, and these days if you consider the effort put in. while reading is even more than that of the pay you collecting but with passion people don't even mind they will put their maximum effort.

it is even getting more difficult to get a job now because we have limited jobs and considering the population of people that is a problem so even with qualifications it is still very difficult to secure one that can even pay you well. Relying on a degree alone is not a good idea is better to have a demanding skill to improve on, and that is what is behind the increase in the unemployment rate. the majority still believe in the government creating more jobs.

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September 27, 2023, 01:29:52 PM
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I understand your concern, and it's a good one. Though I acknowledge that obtaining more degrees may lead to greater chances and knowledge, I must admit that this is not always a certain route to achieve financial stability. I've witnessed innumerable people with degrees who are having a terrible time finding a well-paying job, particularly in areas where unemployment is really high. Imo, understanding the job market is really important. If there are no available jobs, there are no options. They won't appear by magic with more degrees

Acquiring pertinent knowledge and practical abilities that are in demand is more important than earning degrees. The focus of the modern economy is increasingly on experiences, abilities, and skills. Perhaps it's time to move past academic credentials and take a look at other options, including starting your own business or learning globally in-demand crafts and talents

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September 27, 2023, 01:39:06 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

People have different priorities. Some people get satisfaction from acquiring degrees and they have no intention of using such degrees to earn more. They derive pleasure in learning and gaining more certificates. You cannot assume they are wrong because education is their priority. Maybe they are content with what they earn or they have sufficient financial backings.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Currently, a degree doesn't guarantee a high-paying job. Days at gone when immediately you graduate from college there is a job waiting for you. Currently what matters is the demand of the labor market. You don't need to have any certificate to get a job, all you need is the skill in high demand. If you have a skill that an organization needs nobody cares about your college certificate. Anybody that is depending on his certificate for a job might be disappointed. You can learn IT and AI skills online and get a high paying job with no paper certification.  

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September 27, 2023, 02:16:47 PM
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Obviously having more than one degree means your qualification is becoming higher as well so the chance of getting a job with better pay is also higher. I believe that there are always opportunities but it is for us to look for them depending on our level of determination.

Let's say you live in a place where employment is low so it's like the place has few businesses and companies. If someone wants to work near their home then it is better to take a degree that is more inclined toward the existing opportunities.

But in a perfect world, we should take a degree based on what we love and the existing skills and interests we have. So provided we are having difficulties looking for a job in our local place then we need to risk and travel elsewhere in order to find opportunities that will fit with our degrees.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
You know the expression: those who study a lot have no time to earn money. I believe that the ability to make money is the ability to act and take advantage of the opportunities that are now available. There are guys who, even without a higher education, are capable of achieving excellent results in business, and there are those who have two or three higher educations, but they occupy low positions at work and think that they need another education to earn more. The ability to make money is the ability to find opportunities that always exist.
I agree with you that the ability to make money is that they can take advantage of every opportunity that exists and look for opportunities that can generate income and I often see people like this, they don't have a high level of education so if they get the opportunity they will try it and for those who have of higher education, of course they choose the opportunities they get so that they pass them by without trying them first and they will not know the extent of their abilities. I think having a high education cannot guarantee that they will have a high income, you are right. Those who can have an income are those who have the ability to find opportunities and look for opportunities so they can try them.
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September 27, 2023, 02:39:47 PM
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Most people who pursue higher degrees do so not because they stand to get a well paying job that will increase their financial capacity but rather they increase their level of literacy, experience, exposure and most times technical know how. Some people especially in the developed countries increase their degrees in order to be recognised in the organisation they find themselves while others because of certain position they want to attain in life.

Based on what I have observed in my country, I think most people increase their degrees because they believe that once they are offered employment in the government sector they stand a better chance of being paid a huge amount of money because of the levels they will be ranked in based on the degrees they have while others get degrees to stand out as individuals who can be relied upon once there are matters that requires great thinkers and academic juganuts.

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September 27, 2023, 02:53:18 PM
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Every company seeks employees who excel in their respective domains; a programmer need not be proficient in music, for instance.

Remember that every individual is unique and always valuable, even the laziest among us.
But nowadays many companies are seeking multi talented people, even you're a programmer, they sometime ask you to become an editor which require you to understand about graphic design, videography, music etc.

Bill gates's quote only for high skilled and lazy person, if someone is lazy and have no skill, they will become beggars.

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September 27, 2023, 02:58:29 PM
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If you really don't want to pursue your academic thing I guess you've missed some part, still ideal to get a degree because this is your assurance that can be use in the future, lets say you take into another path, those path is not related on yours and you failed, of course, you want to try something and possible failed again, you can use your knowledge and skills with your degree so you can still have a possible source of work and income but if you still cant manage and make it fail I guess there's something wrong with you. People doing business, marketing, IT and etc. some of them pursue what they get the degree because they really want it but we cannot deny still some people don't want their course and choose the other adventure of their life if you failed on it degree is can be your reserve.

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September 27, 2023, 03:03:40 PM
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Most people who pursue higher degrees do so not because they stand to get a well paying job that will increase their financial capacity but rather they increase their level of literacy, experience, exposure and most times technical know how. Some people especially in the developed countries increase their degrees in order to be recognised in the organisation they find themselves while others because of certain position they want to attain in life.

Based on what I have observed in my country, I think most people increase their degrees because they believe that once they are offered employment in the government sector they stand a better chance of being paid a huge amount of money because of the levels they will be ranked in based on the degrees they have while others get degrees to stand out as individuals who can be relied upon once there are matters that requires great thinkers and academic juganuts.

The problem is that the overall level of the higher education system today has dropped significantly. It is all about standards and time of education. Express education does not give deep knowledge, so a person gets superficial knowledge. At the same time, the cost of education has risen sharply, and many people simply cannot afford to get deep knowledge.
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September 27, 2023, 03:09:16 PM
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Depends on which country you expect it from. Unfortunately, many prestigious private companies realize that a degree can't measure a person's level of professional proficiency, it only allows him to gain theoretical knowledge (that is, if he is serious about his education). In some developing countries where the practice of nepotism is very strong, someone can achieve academic degrees even though s/he has never stepped foot on the campus floor.

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September 27, 2023, 03:11:20 PM
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Yes, it does. There is a vast difference between holding a degree and holding a post-doc for that matter. The knowledge level is different, the skill set is different. A PhD holder person will always get a very high source of income or their hourly wager starts at a very high peak. If there is a chance for anyone to get a higher education qualification then they should always go for it.

Now, there are peeps who get more knowledge based on their experience in the practical field however academics can furnish a mindset to a very different level. It also depends on which background you come from. For example, this could be an entirely different case for the engineering background while it could be another for the PhD holder in life sciences.

I think it has great effect on income for sure.
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Having a diploma that you graduated from college is a great achievement for a person. But that is not an assurance for you to have a good profit in the future. It may help you to get a job locally where you are located or even in another country to work, but that is still not a ticket to reach your dreams in life.

Because it usually happens that the only people who achieve their dreams are those who have businesses or make money through various methods of investment, trading, and so on, but not just by having a job. Here in our country, every year the number of unemployment increases because every year the number of those who graduate from college increases and not all those who graduate get jobs, and this happens in all countries for a long time.

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I imagine the importance of getting a degree varies from country to country. In my country, I'd say it's important to go at least through a Bachelor's program because many intellectual (non-manual) jobs will require higher education, although it often won't matter where you studied or even what you studied, unless it's a job that's very narrow and specific to a certain degree. Getting more degrees doesn't help, but sometimes getting further in one degree (doing Master's, sometimes even PhD) can be required for more senior positions.
Ultimately, I think people should study what's of interest to them and how much it's of interest to them, and then try to find jobs that are at least remotely engaging with whatever the person studied.

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Get more degrees and then what? Do a 9 to 5 job with an income that can hardly provide for half a month? Remember, salary is a drug that your boss gives you to keep you away from your dreams. Seeking knowledge is never a bad thing. The more you learn the better you become. But knowledge is not everything in life. Do you think that what you are doing, others are not? The competition is so high. Millions of people are doing the same thing that you do every day. How many of them are successful?

If you really want to do something in life or become more successful than most of the men, then do something that they are not doing. Start small and gain experience. Use that knowledge to push yourself more. Dream big. There's nothing that's stopping you from dreaming. Even if you are unable to make that dream come true, give it all you've got. At the end of the day, you won't have any regrets.

This may sound silly but if you are into anime, watch Zom 100. You will see the dark side of doing jobs. Working for others in not easy. Because at jobs, no one tells you what to do. And if the thing does not meet their standards, you are finished.
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Getting a higher degree enables you to get a high paying job. Education they say is the bedrock of any society, so having a good higher degree no doubt give you a leverage to a good paying job.
But it doesn't just end there, so what if those jobs doesn't come as expected, what role will your education now play.
Education enablers you to think outside the box, it allows you to be creative and be idealistic.
So hence your educated and those jobs are not forthcoming, you can improvise and sort for capitals and start a business of your own and be an entrepreneur using your educationan skills on your own business.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

1. Thinkers, philosophers, writers, theorists, .... These are often seen as almost useless "specialties".  But they give rise to entities that we, the "productive part of the population", often don't think about - we don't have time "for these little things", and "nonsense" Smiley  But sooner or later we come to questions to which we have no answers, and often no opportunity to try to find them ourselves. That's what we need people to do this difficult work for us. This is what those people you are talking about are doing.
2. Everyone earns as much as they can - loader, teacher, philosopher, developer, marketer, fireman.... All these people make the world around us a better place. So any job should be valued, and respected !

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September 27, 2023, 04:52:48 PM
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Having too many degrees does not automatically mean that you'll be financially better in life.
You can't use that at the same time. Just one degree is enough for you to say that you are financially stable, but there are still many people out there who have not finished their studies but their lives are still good. If you have work experience and you have graduated, that's even better.

There are vloggers out there who didn't graduate but they are rich now. There are also people who have completed their studies but prefer to vlog, they are still rich. Diligence, perseverance and hard work will get you up in life

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
There are always jobs for people with special skills, and the higher your educational qualification in a specific career, the better your chances at getting a job even with the high unemployment rate. The high unemployment rate only affects people are at the bottom and have the most basic educational qualifications.

Higher educational qualifications will improve the opportunities that you will be eligible for.

Special/high-end skills will improve your opportunities as much as high educational qualifications will.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
There are always jobs for people with special skills, and the higher your educational qualification in a specific career, the better your chances at getting a job even with the high unemployment rate. The high unemployment rate only affects people are at the bottom and have the most basic educational qualifications.

Higher educational qualifications will improve the opportunities that you will be eligible for.

Special/high-end skills will improve your opportunities as much as high educational qualifications will.

Yes I agree, that's exactly right, nowadays it is indeed increasingly sophisticated, especially in the field of technology which is increasingly dressed and all digital. Many people complain that they find it difficult to get a job, actually the real fact in my opinion is not that they find it difficult to find a job but they themselves are limited in terms of skills, in fact there are many large companies that need labor but they need someone who already has basic expertise in certain fields, and it is quite difficult to be able to find some candidates who match the qualifications needed. In addition, it is true that the higher your educational qualifications, the greater your chances of getting a job that suits you and is worthy. But sometimes it is not uncommon for some of those who have higher education but do not have any expertise in some fields, because maybe they are not serious in applying some of the learning that is in their college, it often happens, so the unemployment rate is now not only about those who only have low education but even those who have higher education are not uncommon those who are unemployed.

On the issue of the higher unemployment rate, I honestly wouldn't blame the government, and they also can't fully blame the government for for example the government's lack of attention in creating employment opportunities, because obviously if they have the skills then they will be much needed by several companies.

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September 27, 2023, 05:46:30 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
On the time that you do see that the employment rate on your country is low then you would definitely be looking in other countries if we do speak about job opportunities and since you do have that multiple degrees which other people does have rather than on single one then we know that opportunities arent really that limited into your place or country which there are other door of opportunities in other places.It is really just that the competition is really high and this is why it would really be needed for you to be that competitive if you do really like for yourself to be that getting hired plus we know that not all people who do have those achievement would really be securing out a good paying job and this is why some people dont bother themselves on finishing their studies on which i would say that its not really that a good idea. Nothing beats out if you do have a degree despite of such condition on which we know that careers whether needs educational background or not then it would really be needing some mix of luck for you to have a successful path.
This is why having a degree is important and if you do see that you cant see some jobs then you would really be needing to be versatile and trying out to adjust accordingly basing up on the situation
and not really just make yourself that stagnant on a certain condition.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Everyone has what makes them feel accomplished in life, to some people reading and attaining more degree is what they consider to be accomplished while others getting money is what they consider to be successful. Some of those users that you see reading and attaining more degree are doing so to position themselves in a good position for when an opportunity comes. The opportunity could be job offers outside the country as some companies are now targeting third world countries for employment because people there are cheaper to pay and the jobs can be done remotely too. Some study so when they leave their country they'll be in a good position to secure jobs outside the country while others are just to studying because they love doing so or they don't have any hopes again and looking for what they'll use to kill time while they wait on miracle but still the obvious answer to your question is no because majority of them waste their whole life getting degrees that aren't useful in the location they find themselves.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Both in a state where the employment rate is high or low, having just one qualifications isn't the right thing to do because the world is constantly evolving and job requirements are changing. It'll be an advance to you if you learn both academically and acquired skills that you can rely on if things don't work out as you have planned. Jobs will keep reducing as machine are been used for things human power were been used before so getting yourself equiped with skills ranging from one sector to another is needed to be employable. Academic shoudn't be neglected in the quest of acquiring a skill though as it's important for you to have degrees as it helps in various ways e.g social status.

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September 27, 2023, 05:56:38 PM
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A degree isn't equivalent to financial security. Why? because what I think of a degree is just a long course award for yourself, more of being an expert in a single field.

I must say having a degree, or a number of degrees is setting your bar higher making you more qualified for a lot of jobs. You get better chances in the short term, but not necessarily mean you get a better life. Having a lot of degrees is also a responsibility to keep the knowledge you learn and utilize it leveraging your skills to get that job you wanted and make $$$. But have you ever thought if there's a successful personality that has a single degree? IMO, it is important to get a degree, nothing's gonna change with that but not all the knowledge, learnings, and skills are acquired during your schooling.
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September 27, 2023, 06:15:12 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better

We should not forget that knowledge is power. Nowadays, companies often prefer people with practical experience over just having a degree. But having both knowledge and experience is the best. It helps you stand out in the job market. So,no knowledge is wasted. Getting a good job also depends on how well you connect with others.


I agree with this, companies are always looking for those who have experience and have completed their studies.
It's really hard at the beginning especially when you're a fresh graduate, you don't have a choice in your salary but once you gain a few years of experience there you can say that you're financially stable. You can say that you are confident about your financial situation. But don't get me wrong, I know there are people who didn't finish their studies but their finances are also stable, while others are already rich.

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September 27, 2023, 06:26:54 PM
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A degree isn't equivalent to financial security. Why? because what I think of a degree is just a long course award for yourself, more of being an expert in a single field.

I must say having a degree, or a number of degrees is setting your bar higher making you more qualified for a lot of jobs. You get better chances in the short term, but not necessarily mean you get a better life. Having a lot of degrees is also a responsibility to keep the knowledge you learn and utilize it leveraging your skills to get that job you wanted and make $$$. But have you ever thought if there's a successful personality that has a single degree? IMO, it is important to get a degree, nothing's gonna change with that but not all the knowledge, learnings, and skills are acquired during your schooling.
We do have those people who do have multiple degrees on which trying out to being expert on certain fields which it isnt really just that limited on a single point on which only a few do really go into this path because we

know that once a certain person do finish up their studies then they would really be directly looking for a job and would really be trying out to build their lives independently on which it is really just that a common approach.
Having that other courses would really just take up the time even more and this is why its really that unlikely that you would really be that going to pursue such step and even myself wont really be having plans to have
multiple degree and would really be just planning on focusing on a single course on which i could really be having my expertise.

its true that having degree whether only 1 or more wouldnt really be giving out assurance that you could really be getting a job after you have finished it. Lots of challenges on which you would really be that
needing to face before you would really be able to make yourself succeed. There's no way that we could secure a job after we do graduate and this is why some people dont mind about
getting a degree but rather they would really be pursuing on careers on which they could really be able to make money that fast.

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September 27, 2023, 06:57:59 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
This is a good question we need to ask ourselves because many people had been making the mistakes without even knowing what they ought to know at an appropriate time. We need to try as much to develop ourselves rather than trying to get more degrees.

This is not going to help us at all. We need to learn the reality of life by ourselves and is what we are not thought in school. School is there to help our gain knowledge not experience to create wealth. Rather than gaining degrees to look for a better job after it, it is better for us to create business for ourselves so we can have our own investment and business that would help us and give us money in a long run.









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September 27, 2023, 07:02:06 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

They are doing the right thing because deciding to pursue an education is not a bad thing. I don't know about your country, but I believe that problems that are occurring there are also happening in mine, and we cannot see anyone who has been selected to be a part of those problems as a bad person. Opportunities could happen at any time, but in order to succeed in this economy, we shouldn't put all of our eggs in one basket when it comes to education. A degree also helps when employers are looking for educated candidates. Therefore, we shouldn't claim that our decision to stop furthering our education is the right one.

We cannot turn down a job that can pay us a little money and claim that our results are worth more than that. We can get a job and be paid a little salary. When they give their best to their job, they can get promoted. When another job opportunity comes along with a salary that is higher than the job they have, they can still switch to that job. Every success can be made gradually. Each of us choose the best aspect of our lives.

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September 27, 2023, 07:31:01 PM
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Believe in what you want and shape your life around it, you can see a door through something that I see only through walls, you don't have to confuse me that there is a door through the walls, I will call you blind but do not listen.

If you believe that academic pursuits will do great for four life what's holding you back? My opinion doesn't matter, as there are still many people who pursue degrees and they end up creating a good career for themselves.

I know that many popular people around the world aren't in education and they still become top millionaires and billionaires today, but that's them, you can do the same thing and end up with nothing, they believe that degrees won't do shit and they follow business and investments, that doesn't mean you should too, this is a matter of choices and goals, whether it's going to work for you or not is unknown to anybody.

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September 27, 2023, 07:50:09 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

No. In our internet age you do not need a degree to make money. You need a degree to gain a career which is high level and comes with large amounts of responsibility as well as a brag-worthy income. Like being a medical doctor or an engineer. Although maybe people have made a stereotype out of those fields.

You can just go online, search for and download study materials. In fact the same study materials as in university. You could even compose a curriculum for yourself based completely on the curriculum of some university.

A degree is just PROOF that you have the knowledge and skills. Without a degree you can only claim to have those things. But purely for gaining knowledge on how to financially gain an advantage? You do not need a degree for that.

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September 27, 2023, 08:00:32 PM
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There is nothing higher than acquiring knowledge.  The more educated the nation is, the better the nation is.  Education should not be viewed in the eyes of obtaining a certificate.  Education is the backbone of the nation.  It is not enough to take one degree after another. You have to apply your acquired knowledge in practice.  One should learn to earn money in the right way with the knowledge gained through education.  Because just a degree will not fill your stomach.  Learn how to earn money and learn how to use money properly.  Progressive thinking should be kept on how to increase money from money.  If an educated person does business, the chances of profiting from his business will increase several times.


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September 27, 2023, 08:33:28 PM
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In my country, it's about getting the job and not the salary if you're just a fresh graduate. You'll get more chance of being hired when you're a degree holder compared to those applicants who are not yet finished with their studies or haven't landed college studies.
While it's a good thing that you have other degrees that you have finished, there's always politics in the office. It's real and even if you've got the highest form of education, you'll just be beaten by those colleagues that are close to your superiors and this is happening everywhere not just in my country. Although there are companies that do appreciate your grit and educational attainment and will give you the right compensation, there are companies and HRs that like to lowball applicants. That's why IMHO, skills and attitude still beat these degrees whether you own more than 1.

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More degrees definitely increase the chances you are going to get a job, especially a high paying one. Although there are no assurances, that is what I'm focused to right now. We never know if we will succeed or not, because there are another factors involved, including the so called "network" of contacts you have to have ir order to belong to an influent circle of people who will indicate you to occupy the spot of job you are looking for.

If you don't have degrees, you have to be a very smart, active and social person to thrive in private, autonomous jobs.

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September 27, 2023, 09:25:01 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

I believe it is an exaggeration saying that your country has no job available.  There are job opportunities but it is limited.  I think you need to explore more, being underpaid is different from having no available job to apply with.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Having basic education is good, in terms of having the right education to get employed is another thing.  It is wrong to think that if one got a degree, they can apply to any job because each job have specification on what education is required to get hired.  It is true that having more degrees can get a person a chance to qualify to more jobs.  So these people have the luxury to choose which job to apply that can give them higher payrate.
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September 27, 2023, 10:11:50 PM
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In fact, to be able to go to school to such a high level and get a degree does not require a small amount of money but a lot of money and a parent is even willing to sell their assets for the sake of a child so that they can go to school to a higher level to get a bachelor's degree.

However, after getting a bachelor's degree, can you change your life and become someone who is successful and able to return the capital spent while studying? which in reality is not the case and is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, when we get a bachelor's degree then this is the beginning of a very long real life. The aim of being a scholar is not to become a successful person but to become a person who is able to think critically to answer existing problems, including economic problems. So this depends on the effort we make and the thoughts we apply in real life, because success and financial freedom are the fruit of thought, hard work and smart work to achieve a goal.
If sitting at college can't change anything in your life, be it thoughts or behavior, then there's no need to go to college which only costs a lot of money. Because someone who has never attended college and only works as a laborer, I think he is nobler than a graduate who is just unemployed every day.

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September 27, 2023, 10:15:02 PM
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degrees is important but the more important thing is skill, have many degrees but don't have skill is useless. I think if there is no opportunity to get a job or create a business in our country then it will be better if we can go to other countries. but I don't think that there is no opportunity to create a business, as long as there is a need from people then there is opportunity for businessman, also we live with internet now.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

In fact, not everyone who is highly educated manages to get a good job, there are also many who are unemployed because they are not lucky, there are also people who return to take higher education to be able to get a decent position in the company where they work. However, currently large companies prioritize people who have higher education working in their companies, it has become a requirement for them to filter out workers who are more competent than those who have no education at all.



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September 27, 2023, 11:01:03 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
According to me, higher education is worthless if it is not of any practical use. When one gets higher education surely he can contribute something to the society from which the society or the country benefits. If education is taken for the purpose name and fame then that education will be worth less. Of course a highly educated person should give such an idea of how people can benefit from his education. We often see research by highly educated individuals of various kinds, some of which is good research that serves human welfare, and some of which has no value. It is not enough to hold a degree only, it must be fruitful.
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Depends if you want to use it or not. There are so many people who do not mater what they studied, all because they think their graduation worths nothing. I am a literature major and ALL of my friends ended up doing unrelated work, they went to fields like sales, telecommunication, personal assistants, hostesses, teaching (which sort of makes sense), software engineering (studied again), and plenty of other fields. If you are going to do that, then don't study at all. But I kept it going, it took me nearly 10 years to earn something decent after graduation, but I am making good enough money now, probably more money than %90 of those people, because I kept working on my craft.

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September 27, 2023, 11:46:17 PM
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academic opens up opportunities for jobs, getting college degree means there's wider range of jobs that you can get than just having highschool diploma which already considered mediocre nowadays. even though degree also considered mediocre since quite literally everyone has it now.
even the amount of Phd out there are oustanding too.
but here's the thing, sometime some people just study pursuing academic degree solely without doing anything, not intending to apply for jobs at entry level to build up career, what they knew is just pursuing degree and thats it so when they graduated, they don't really know what to do, the key takeaway being, purse career while also studying and if you're into entrepreneurship then pursue skills.

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September 28, 2023, 12:03:06 AM
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 Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

What do you suggest they do? Be illiterate because they live in a country that has a failed economy? I disagree. Education is very important, how else would people build successful businesses and contracts without a formal education. At the end of the day, it is a personal choice. If you believe education isn’t the path you want to take in life, it’s your decision. But making that decision based on the belief that there is no job opportunity for graduates is something I cannot accept.

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September 28, 2023, 12:43:20 AM
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Having good education means you're on the right track towards a better life. What gets valued is the skills,which means all the degrees you hold are mere qualification. Your skills are valued when you get into an organisation. Next thing important is being passionate about what you do. Even if you get into something by situation, over time try to love it. Automatically you can experience the best out of it. It is true there is lack of opportunities, and through education we should be able to prepare ourselves to find/create opportunity.

In simple words there is mutual need of education followed by skills, failure to have one of this will surely affect at some part of professional life.
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
Getting a degree increase the chances of you getting a job thus, making your life better financially, but getting a degree doesn't mean you will get a job automatically. After all, you've said already that you've seen lots of graduates in your country who still don't have a job right now even though they graduated. That alone is I guess a proof that degree right now isn't as important as what it is decades ago when it comes to success in life.

You can still be a successful man even though you didn't even graduated from college. Attaining more degrees will not help them especially if they will not help themselves.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
This is the mindset of most of the people. More degrees = more jobs which is kind of true since you will have more opportunities. There are lots of opportunities out there. There are many jobs out there. They just need to find it.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

In fact, not everyone who is highly educated manages to get a good job, there are also many who are unemployed because they are not lucky, there are also people who return to take higher education to be able to get a decent position in the company where they work. However, currently large companies prioritize people who have higher education working in their companies, it has become a requirement for them to filter out workers who are more competent than those who have no education at all.
After completing education, no one can guarantee that they will get the job they want, but I don't think they will be lucky if they keep trying to look for it. I'm sure they will be able to get the job they want because they already have the knowledge they have gained from their education. they went. Yes, you are right, every company will indeed choose those who are highly educated to work for their company compared to those who have no education, but for those who do not have a high education, maybe they can work for the company, of course they have the experience required by the company and this is very rare to find.

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September 28, 2023, 02:26:57 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?  
More degrees = more job opportunities.
But it doesn't automatically mean the job is already there and just waiting. Of course you also need to exert an effort to find a job that suited to what you've learned. If there are slim job opportunities in your region then maybe it's time to explore and start looking to a nearby cities.

But actually nowadays, education is not the basis if you're going to have a good life. What you need is skills, improve it so you can use these skills to earn money. It could be by giving services or through offering a products (business in short).

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Depends on how well you've done in your degree program, if you're like me who just happen to have it for the sake of having a degree then it wouldn't be enough if you want a large steady income but if you did well in your degree and you passed it with flying colors then expect that you should be able to demand a bit higher in your wages although that depends on the company because there are some that didn't do well with their degree program but their work ethic and hardwork made them an asset to their organization so in the end what matters would be your attitude in your job and how you do your work.
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There is no guarantee that if you get more academic degrees, you can get a bigger salary than others if you don't have much experience in the field. But so far, offices have considered someone with more academic degrees acceptable to them, especially if they study abroad.

Some people have more academic degrees but do not have better job opportunities and can only work like most people. Maybe it's because there are no jobs for them so they are forced to work like that. Meanwhile, people who read in areas with limited job opportunities are doing the right thing because they are trying to gain more knowledge, which means they are preparing themselves to compete if there is a better job vacancy.

Amid job competition like today, having more academic degrees is not enough because someone must also have many skills and work experience.

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September 28, 2023, 03:06:28 AM
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There is no guarantee that if you get more academic degrees, you can get a bigger salary than others if you don't have much experience in the field.

There is no guarantee, but just as there is no guarantee of anything in life except that you will die. If you study a degree in something usable in the marketplace you will greatly increase your chances of earning a good income. On the other hand, if you study a degree with few job opportunities, don't be surprised if you have difficulties finding a job and end up working in a fast food restaurant.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

It can certainly help you get a good high paying job, but it still depends on your willingness, patience, passion, perseverance, and strategy how to use your knowledge and skills to obtain such position in a company.
When you get a degree or two, it's not gonna be automatic that you'll get a job you desired after you graduated. Well, not unless if you finished with the highest honor among your school.
You have to consider the competition and put into ones mind that you're not the only graduate in that particular field and you're not the only graduate who honed their skills and knowledge. Therefore, you're gonna still continue learning after your degree if you want to keep up with the career competition.

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September 28, 2023, 04:10:11 AM
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Depends on how well you've done in your degree program, if you're like me who just happen to have it for the sake of having a degree then it wouldn't be enough if you want a large steady income but if you did well in your degree and you passed it with flying colors then expect that you should be able to demand a bit higher in your wages although that depends on the company because there are some that didn't do well with their degree program but their work ethic and hardwork made them an asset to their organization so in the end what matters would be your attitude in your job and how you do your work.

I just remember my classmates before that they graduated and had a degree but they didn't know how to code so their path as a programmer is not bright but right now because of their hard work they land a job that is not programming but about what they love and enjoy most. The lesson is that it doesn't mean that if you have a degree then your job will be related to it  as that is not how the world works.

The reason for getting high-paying jobs is the work quality that you are giving, not the certificates that you have in your degree.
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The lesson is that it doesn't mean that if you have a degree then your job will be related to it  as that is not how the world works.

The reason for getting high-paying jobs is the work quality that you are giving, not the certificates that you have in your degree.
Gradually the parameters of worker quality will change along with competition between companies, they will only really hire you because of your realistic abilities. This will be a great job market and open up endless opportunities regardless of degree.

A degree may only be useful in some professions where you have to demonstrate administrative integrity as a professional, for example in the fields of consulting, health (such as doctors and pharmacists) or law (lawyers, etc.).

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
If people who focus more on academics to get a higher bachelor's degree are people who come from rich families. Which they don't even have difficulty paying for their academic life. So maybe their steps are indeed quite good steps for them. Because it is possible that after achieving a high academic degree, their family or parents may have prepared a job that is suitable for the high academic degree their child has received. So there must be many valid reasons behind everything they are struggling with academically.

But for people who come from families who are not rich. And they even find it difficult to finance their academic learning process. So I think it would be better for them to look for a job first that can make them earn money and they can go to employee class where the study time is more flexible, namely usually only 2 days on Saturday and Sunday. So they can study while working.

Because if they force themselves to get a high degree, even though their financial condition doesn't allow it, it can only make them fail halfway. They cannot complete their studies and they also have no source of income. And such conditions are clearly very bad.

The point is that everything must be adjusted to each condition.
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Depends on what course you will gonna take since if you just take a degree because this is in demand and you don't really like it for sure you will just end up getting a hard time finding a job because for sure to many people same with your degree seek for job and compete with you in job hunting so I guess you need to have good portfolio or experience so that employers would choose you among those thousands of applicants.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Its not like they actually get more degrees to get better job its just some other just want to expand their knowledge and they take another degree so that it can help them grow and get promoted on their current career. This is really helpful especially if you are working on competitive environment since having multiple learnings can make you more valuable to the eyes of your employers and this is one of many way to higher up your rank on companies that you are working on.

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OP, you yourself note in your post that the country of origin and residence is of great importance in the answer to your question. There is no general answer to your question. There are countries in which people with a degree earn very decent money, and there are countries in which such academic scholars are treated like trash and they have to survive for a tiny bit they earn. A degree itself only is never enough. You either have to be someone valuable and intelligent, or know how to play by the rules of the system you want to be in. And often, both, unfortunately.

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Who do you think is easier for scammers to deceive? Who often suffers because they do not know their rights? I think you already understand what I want to say. The more educated a person is, the more protected he is. Yes, it is probably difficult to get a well-paid job right away, but there is always a difference in who and what you can do. A person without education can be used in any direction, knowing that he will still not be able to stand up for himself since he is not educated. He can be paid less, and because he is in a hopeless situation, he will be forced to agree to all types of difficult and poorly paid work.
But you, having several degrees of education, will never allow people to behave inappropriately towards you, firstly, having respect for yourself. Therefore, you should not think that people who strive for self-improvement will always remain at the bottom of life. There should always be a chance that should not be missed. It's always better than sitting and spitting at the ceiling and complaining about your poor life.

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School is there to help our gain knowledge not experience to create wealth. Rather than gaining degrees to look for a better job after it, it is better for us to create business for ourselves so we can have our own investment and business that would help us and give us money in a long run.
Having more than one degree is not guaranteed for someone to make it, I can reason with some people having more than one degree, I normally happen if their first degree is not the course they wanted and they have the ability to go forward then they proceed to further their education, we just have to respect everyone opinions, but for me I rather pursue  working hard than getting another degree just because of my country conditions. In my country our degree does not pay anymore, only your creativity can make you survive not your degree.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Before diving Into this education and being self employed, I put into consideration long term plans and goals that can be achieved with whatever I am into. If it'll be for the betterment in the next twenty years I am in but no, out.
Whichever way works out for you do it with all you might and strength. But getting degrees lately are meaningless the world is gradually turning digitalized and if you don't get a degree in these areas you're spending time and squander money on such degrees that gibes you nothing.
Unemployment on the high rise and yet, too many people are still in for degrees. Degrees are not everything.

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September 28, 2023, 11:09:18 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Whether you get a job in your country depends on many things. The most important aspect is the economic stability of your country. Other things that should be noted are the scope of your degree in your country and competition for job accusation. It also depends on how you have studied for your degrees and do you have the required skills that are needed to secure the job.

You should try to gain more experience and skills in your field so that you can compete with your fellow citizens for the job. Try to improve your communication skills. If your ultimate life goal is to earn money, then a job will get you nothing, try your luck in business and invest in stocks and Bitcoin.
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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
The difference is the skill set that one has to acquire during the course of the degree. This will differ depending on the type of the degree and the types of jobs that degree can get you. Not everything will be taught to you in course work but some you need to learn on your own that can help you set up your own name, brand and outreach, getting my idea?

It is the reason why two people have the same degree but are successful to a different extent or landing up differently paying jobs.

I always stress the importance of a degree, there is no alternative to it, but additional skills like communication, patience, problem solving need to be developed which can allow you to stand out.

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Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
I think they will stand a better chance if they're on the same level playground without a higher power influencing for anyone without the same paper qualification. However, acquiring a skill is better than having a paper qualification. What paper qualification will do in an overwhelming unemployment situation is to give the holder a bragging right while the one who has a skill gets the job.

The more educated a person is, the more protected he is. Yes, it is probably difficult to get a well-paid job right away, but there is always a difference in who and what you can do. A person without education can be used in any direction, knowing that he will still not be able to stand up for himself since he is not educated.
What you've described is an ideal situation. Sadly, that's not the case in practical term. I may not know what's obtainable in real time abroad apart from what I watch on cable or read online about life in developed climes. If I judge by what is around me in Africa, I know it's way below. In Africa, apart from having the ability to read and write, most so called educated people aren't much different from their illiterate neighbours. I live in a country where educated people act worse during elections and religious activities (especially in church), with their view points disappointedly uninspiring and backward. I may lack the right expression for what I'm labouring to say here but the bottom line is that the whole "I'm educated" stuff thing shouldn't be taken at face value. Test people to know their ability. Most people who are scammed in my country aren't the illiterate ones but the greedy educated folks.

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Academic is important, but working experience, internship, study exchange, network, organization, competition, project and any other thing that can improve your ability are more important than academic. This is why most of fresh graduated are very hard to seek jobs, they only offer their academic certificate to the company and expect they will accept you? what's the difference with other people that also same like you?

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There is no guarantee that if you get more academic degrees, you can get a bigger salary than others if you don't have much experience in the field.

Yes, having many academic degrees will help us better our chances when competing with others when going for interviews. But to be able to ask for a high salary, degree is not enough, what businesses need is experience, working skills and results. That's why businesses always ask for experience when interviewing.

But so far, offices have considered someone with more academic degrees acceptable to them, especially if they study abroad.

This depends on the vacancy as well as the company's needs. I saw study abroad applicants rejected and experienced candidates selected when I worked in the office.

Amid job competition like today, having more academic degrees is not enough because someone must also have many skills and work experience.

This is what many students are suffering from, they have the illusion that just by having a degree, they can get a high paying job. But what they don't know is that getting a degree isn't that difficult and they aren't the only ones with degrees. They are living in a highly competitive environment, so a degree without experience is useless.



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I come from a country where their are no job
Then make a job! You don't have to become an employee, you can become an employer yourself. Of course it depends on your degree and your ambitions and how willing you are on taking on challenges and enduring hardship. For example do you think any of these big companies with thousands of employees (like Microsoft, Apple, etc.) were created out of thin air overnight? It took years of dedication and hard work to build the company to what it is today.

There is no reason for you not to be able to do something similar even on a tiny scale.
In fact if what you claimed was right, that means there is going to be little to no competition.

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Sometimes life pushes us into situations where we have to choose, and in this case I can share that harmonizing and balancing everything even though it seems difficult, studying and working is better said than ability. The ability to apply so you can adapt to what you have, does not make you stand out from the crowd.

I have heard many stories about pursuing wealth through knowledge and almost every story leads to good results, and that is also fair in life, when you have ability then there is nothing. What is the reason that capacity does not create value for you?

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?


I think it depends on what country you're from, because in my country, there are more job opportunities if you have a degree. Here, even barista and service crews in fast food chains are required to have at least finished their high school or even college. Sometimes, what's even worse is other company imposes high standards and requires their employee to have a degree before hiring them. So, to answer that question, I would say that academic pursue is one of the factors that would help you to get incomes.

I think having more degrees provides you with more opportunities and land you with the perfect job. In fact, companies will even fight for you, so you won't have a hard time finding a job because it is the one that will come to you. Having degrees also enables you to have career growth, in which will help you to expand your expertise.



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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?


I think it depends on what country you're from, because in my country, there are more job opportunities if you have a degree. Here, even barista and service crews in fast food chains are required to have at least finished their high school or even college. Sometimes, what's even worse is other company imposes high standards and requires their employee to have a degree before hiring them. So, to answer that question, I would say that academic pursue is one of the factors that would help you to get incomes.

I think having more degrees provides you with more opportunities and land you with the perfect job. In fact, companies will even fight for you, so you won't have a hard time finding a job because it is the one that will come to you. Having degrees also enables you to have career growth, in which will help you to expand your expertise.

Seems like we live in the same country, where the requirements of a minimum paying jobs are too many than a high paying jobs. And there's also a case where new freshly graduates finding a jobs where almost of the hiring requirements are 1 or more years experience so how could they afford to have a job? You could observe that most of the graduates choose to have a job that are not even connected to their degree, not the reason cause they don't like the course itself, but the time that consumes by just finding a job so if you got accepted it's really a go signal.

Having a degree is really a beneficial in applying a high paying jobs, but remember that finding jobs is not that easy as it sounds especially in my country. Also some companies are looking for the background of the school as well, cause some private school works by the money so they could say you just paid for you to passed which is very insuslting.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Education is fine and going to higher institution is something that is recommended for everyone because many things are taught in the higher institution that you might not learn mingling in the society. Getting a degree and going for higher degrees is also good because it boosts individual confidence and raises societal prestige. But then in some developing countries, higher institutions and getting degrees are gradually becoming a scam this is because, the effort and time invested in going to higher institution and the amount of money spent in this higher institution does not correlate with the reward.

This is why some people in certain region of my country do not pay much attention to Western education, rather they involved in business and before they could turn 20, they are all millionaires doing better than people that have degrees.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
If I'm not mistaken, S3 graduates have salaries at the college level and most S3 graduates usually have a large salary if they are actively teaching on campus. But I do not really agree that education is always associated with money because actually education is a way to achieve knowledge that will bring someone to moral education. Getting many titles may not be able to bring someone to get a large salary and it depends on their active teaching at several universities, if many of the campuses they use to teach then there will be a lot of income they might get.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Depending on themselves because if chasing the title and not implemented in teaching it will not make them get anything. If asked whether they have done the right job, maybe the answer depends on the opportunity they have and if they are able to run correctly, maybe the knowledge they get can bring them at the stage to find income.

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September 28, 2023, 05:35:03 PM
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Academic is important, but working experience, internship, study exchange, network, organization, competition, project and any other thing that can improve your ability are more important than academic. This is why most of fresh graduated are very hard to seek jobs, they only offer their academic certificate to the company and expect they will accept you? what's the difference with other people that also same like you?

Indeed, we all need to realize that in lectures, the knowledge we gain in lectures is only around 30% while the remaining 70% comes from outside, from an organization that we join and a practice that we carry out in the field to make all this into a valuable experience. to form a thought and discover one's identity. through education we will have good knowledge and understanding as a provision for tomorrow, through practice this will make it an experience as an image for living a new life, namely after getting a bachelor's degree and through an organization we can expand relationships which will later helps us to make it easier to achieve a goal.

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September 28, 2023, 06:23:24 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?


I think it depends on what country you're from, because in my country, there are more job opportunities if you have a degree. Here, even barista and service crews in fast food chains are required to have at least finished their high school or even college. Sometimes, what's even worse is other company imposes high standards and requires their employee to have a degree before hiring them. So, to answer that question, I would say that academic pursue is one of the factors that would help you to get incomes.

I think having more degrees provides you with more opportunities and land you with the perfect job. In fact, companies will even fight for you, so you won't have a hard time finding a job because it is the one that will come to you. Having degrees also enables you to have career growth, in which will help you to expand your expertise.

Seems like we live in the same country, where the requirements of a minimum paying jobs are too many than a high paying jobs. And there's also a case where new freshly graduates finding a jobs where almost of the hiring requirements are 1 or more years experience so how could they afford to have a job? You could observe that most of the graduates choose to have a job that are not even connected to their degree, not the reason cause they don't like the course itself, but the time that consumes by just finding a job so if you got accepted it's really a go signal.

Having a degree is really a beneficial in applying a high paying jobs, but remember that finding jobs is not that easy as it sounds especially in my country. Also some companies are looking for the background of the school as well, cause some private school works by the money so they could say you just paid for you to passed which is very insuslting.
Or simply job requirements or qualifications are really that not that something which those fresh graduates could really be able to apply with considering on whats those criteria then it would really be ending up on having

no job since they arent that qualified and this is where unemployment rate would really be increasing on a certain country. Having that a couple of courses or whatsoever in correlated with academic achievements or
something like that wont really be assuring that you would really be getting a job after that and with tons of competition then it isnt really that something that would be so simple that you could really be able to achieve it out. This is why dont make yourself that too confident or even focusing with that because having only a single degree would really be just that enough on securing a job which you do like and its not really that too
necessary for you to aim for more just to mind that you could be having more chances? Yes possibly but not all the time.

Having multiple streams of income doesnt really came from on having couple of jobs that you do have. What matter most is that you do have investment
and businesses despite on having a day job and as long you could really be able to handle it out then this what matter the most.

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It certainly all depends on where you live.  Here in the United States it is uneqivickly beneficial having a degree versus not having a degree.  Now some jobs don't require one and if that's what you were planning to do the rest of your life it would be a waste of time getting that degree, but at least you got the education, which there's nothing wrong with making yourself more intelligent.

In my career field (finance) I have to have a degree. Had I not had one, I'd not have been able to get any of the jobs I've had in the 20 some years I've been in the workforce. 

If I was planning to work for the city or state doing maintenance let's say, for the rest of my life, then it really wouldn't be necessary but I still think it's a good idea to improve your intelligence.

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September 28, 2023, 07:10:00 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
It has been known for a long time that just getting a degree is not enough, as who does not know a bunch of people that got their degree and still do not know how to do anything, so to begin with you need to choose a carer that is in high demand and that is going to continue in that state for a long time, and then you need to concentrate to get good at it, that is it, just two steps and you could get a good job with a good pay if you follow them, but as you may guess the majority of the people do not do this.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Those who pursue more more degrees only do so to brighten their chances of getting employed in the midst of the growing unemployment in your country, however academic is not the only pathway to get income there are non academic who are into business and are earning decent profits, Moreso as an educated individual there are other means of earning apart from relying sourcing for unavailable jobs, graduates can sought for self acquisition to be self employed trading is a very good alternative source of income if those unemployed graduates would endeavors to learn the skills and there are also self taught skills like graphic design, content writing etc which can serve as source of income as a free lancer.

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I don't depend on academics to earn money. I depend on my own efforts to find something, learning directly from experience. Usually studies only teach the basics, skills only we know. However, studies are not very useful in some people who are really able to learn on their own without having to go through studies.
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I think of course not. even when we graduate from academics. we still have to learn from direct experience and that definitely takes time to adapt to work. but at least that way. it has helped us understand the basis of a job based on the studies we have undertaken. If we don't study, it doesn't mean we can't, but only a few people are able to learn autodidactically.

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September 29, 2023, 07:37:11 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Honestly speaking, there is nothing wrong with taking many courses and completing them. The only question is, can you apply it when you submit your application to a company? Because it's true, usually being accepted for a job is not always suitable for the course completed.

For example, there is a doctoral degree that was completed, but when applying abroad, he studied caregiving for a few months before applying as a caregiver; otherwise, the job taken was nursing, even though the profession is a doctoral degree. This was just one of the realities that happened for more than a decade.


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Education is very good whether their will be job opportunities for education obtained or not. I know their are some Africa countries that the unemployment rate is very high, these doesn't mean that people should quit education because it won't be of any use by getting employed. It is good to get degrees but people should not just put all their hopes in degrees, we should be able to embrace other skills that can be helpful financially. Most people who succeed understands their system of government, in countries like Ghana and Nigeria where the government doesn't have much job opportunities,  the citizens try their best to make good money from their skill, this is because they understand their system knowing fully well they can generate their own income without depending on the government.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with igh unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
It's just an alternative, we can choose to do it or not do it at all. Because basically it's not how high your position/title is but how big your role is in implementing the results you read or learn. However, when all of that doesn't have any impact, even on yourself, it means you're wasting time, energy and thoughts on what you can't make happen. In several countries we know that a degree is the main point for achieving work and income, but those who have skills without a degree are often not facilitated. Gela is just a broken system for those who limit a person's creativity in developing themselves. Such a system exists in every country for the sake of one interest, namely money. Because without money you can't achieve a high degree and get a seat in a company or in the end you just become a slave/employee under someone else's finger.
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I think of course not. even when we graduate from academics. we still have to learn from direct experience and that definitely takes time to adapt to work. but at least that way. it has helped us understand the basis of a job based on the studies we have undertaken. If we don't study, it doesn't mean we can't, but only a few people are able to learn autodidactically.
An academic degree cannot be a guarantee that we can achieve success more easily. But at least it increases the chances of getting a job when we apply for a job. Because sometimes educational background is something that a company always pays attention to. But still, this will not happen to the majority of people who also have high academic degrees. In fact, currently there are many business people who run businesses outside the academic field they specialize in.

And actually there are also many successful people who are not from academic circles. They learn autodidactically and learn from experience. But learning autodidactically is not easy. It takes persistence and patience as well as courage in direct practice. But the process always does not lie to the results. In essence, people who work hard intelligently are most likely to achieve success. Be it from academic circles or not.

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For me, having a degree is a big help to get a job since most of the requirements they look for are college graduates. Although it may be hard to secure a job, having a degree gives you more opportunities to apply for certain jobs. Also I believe that having more than one degree is such a big advantage. Having a double degree can be a way to easier find a high paying job compared to a single degree holder.

But at the end of the day, it's only not about your educational background, you also need to build your skills and expertise. If you have those things, more opportunities will come to you. You can secure a job with your education but if you won't pursue your skill growth, you'll just remain in the same position. You can have a stable source of income but it may not be enough in the long run. So you also need to continue learning and improving to succeed.
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For me, having a degree is a big help to get a job since most of the requirements they look for are college graduates. Although it may be hard to secure a job, having a degree gives you more opportunities to apply for certain jobs. Also I believe that having more than one degree is such a big advantage. Having a double degree can be a way to easier find a high paying job compared to a single degree holder.

But at the end of the day, it's only not about your educational background, you also need to build your skills and expertise. If you have those things, more opportunities will come to you. You can secure a job with your education but if you won't pursue your skill growth, you'll just remain in the same position. You can have a stable source of income but it may not be enough in the long run. So you also need to continue learning and improving to succeed.

Yes. Having a degree alone won't suffice, It opens up opportunity but it is not a guarantee.  I believe in order to have the financial goal that you plan, there should be a combination of education, skills, experience, and networking. We have to  create and build connections with other people and can open doors that your qualifications alone might not. Also never get tired of learning new skills as the world continuously improves too. In the end, academic pursuits are important but not enough. They are just one piece of the puzzle.

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Getting a degree doesn't guarantee you to get a job that pays well if your government is the problem, or even if not, sometimes people who excel in school doesn't excel in the field, so there's a lot of adjustment that is needed to evolve to get the job you wanted. Your dream job won't come knocking at your job the moment you graduated with a degree.

Dream job often comes after hardships, a lot of efforts, but it comes in a different way depends on every certain individual. If you know that the employment rate in your country is low and you don't want to leave, just start your own business or company. If you don't have that capability to do that, you have no choice but to go somewhere else where someone would appreciate your talent and skills.
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Finishing college helps but if you don’t finish college, it’s not the end of the world. The world is vast and full of opportunities. Sometimes, the most valuable lessons in life won’t come from a classroom. I do value education but for some people, life doesn’t always end up the way they want to and they end up not finishing college. This doesn’t mean they can never reach success. I think the most important thing is to try to find what you’re passionate about and what you’re good at instead of trying to do something just for the sake of getting income. Anyway, if you have the choice to get more degrees then money isn’t probably your biggest concern.
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This is a good read to understand the benefits of having high academic achievements: https://www.eurokidsindia.com/blog/why-does-academic-achievement-matter.php

Those who are born into poor families, don't have the funds to start a business right away and their efforts to earn will be hindered by the fact that they have no means to get high-paying job where they can get their capital to start a business.  According to the article the long-term benefits of High academic achievements are as follows:

1. Higher Pay and Job security
2. More opportunities for advancement ( meaning higher payment)
3. Increased self-confidence.


With these advantages, a person can easily transition from an employee to a business owner because he can easily earn and save money for the needed capital to establish a business.

Higher academic plus social and emotional skills can make a person easily solve problems with finances.

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September 29, 2023, 01:01:23 PM
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There are educated people who are not earning a well suited amount even having degrees and there are some uneducated or less educated people who are earning maximum amount per month so this implies that your earning abilities are not related to your degrees but sometimes skills become more valuable than degrees.

Although having degree can enhances your chances of finding a job but the salaries of today's job is not enough for a family therefore try to find more option. Teachers, doctors, engineer and many others have degrees and earn money but people with less education involved in online earning are more satisfied because their job is comfortable. Degrees never select your destiny but its luck that move you towards a successful terminus.
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September 29, 2023, 01:19:44 PM
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There are educated people who are not earning a well suited amount even having degrees and there are some uneducated or less educated people who are earning maximum amount per month so this implies that your earning abilities are not related to your degrees but sometimes skills become more valuable than degrees.

Although having degree can enhances your chances of finding a job but the salaries of today's job is not enough for a family therefore try to find more option. Teachers, doctors, engineer and many others have degrees and earn money but people with less education involved in online earning are more satisfied because their job is comfortable. Degrees never select your destiny but its luck that move you towards a successful terminus.

Degrees are mostly applied to those professionals meaning teachers, doctors, engineers, attorneys, and many more because youll need to have a degree on it which again means your salary is huge and your degree will be used for ranking. Though it does not mean that you cant get that same salary if you don't have a degree a lot of people that I know even without degrees like programmers or graphic designers earn more than those people and they are only at home so it really depends on your skills.
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September 29, 2023, 01:20:53 PM
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For me, having a degree is a big help to get a job since most of the requirements they look for are college graduates. Although it may be hard to secure a job, having a degree gives you more opportunities to apply for certain jobs. Also I believe that having more than one degree is such a big advantage. Having a double degree can be a way to easier find a high paying job compared to a single degree holder.

But at the end of the day, it's only not about your educational background, you also need to build your skills and expertise. If you have those things, more opportunities will come to you. You can secure a job with your education but if you won't pursue your skill growth, you'll just remain in the same position. You can have a stable source of income but it may not be enough in the long run. So you also need to continue learning and improving to succeed.

Yes. Having a degree alone won't suffice, It opens up opportunity but it is not a guarantee.  I believe in order to have the financial goal that you plan, there should be a combination of education, skills, experience, and networking. We have to  create and build connections with other people and can open doors that your qualifications alone might not. Also never get tired of learning new skills as the world continuously improves too. In the end, academic pursuits are important but not enough. They are just one piece of the puzzle.

Won't suffice but still helpful if you are a new job seeker although the competition is so tight on job market since there are so many professional still didn't get the job they like based on the degree they finished. That's why the cases of job mismatch rise up. So for sure with that situation those graduates doesn't get a decent salary since they maybe struggle to get good payments from the company they are working on. That's why its important to anyone that aside from college diploma they should work to get some skills and work it together so that they can get a better job that pays them good to get a better life. We should never get tired to learn new skill since the market is becoming more competitive that's why we need to be innovative so that we will not left behind.

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September 29, 2023, 01:40:09 PM
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Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
Yeah, they are doing the right thing. Because there is a slim job opportunity, that does not mean you shouldn’t go to school. After graduating from school, opportunity can come at any moment, if you are not educated, then you will miss the opportunity. Also, going to school shouldn’t stop you from learning some skill, you shouldn’t depend on school alone, you can still learn some skills, so after graduating from school and there is no job, you can earn money through the skills you have learned. Because there is no job in your country, that shouldn’t be an excuse for you not to go to school. Even if you are not trying to get a job with it, being educated is important because it exposes you to so many opportunities.

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Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and also networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

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Academy is not where you go to make money, it's a place where you go to get education and master something. That means if you want to make money, you can skip college, start at 18, find something that would make you money, and by the time you are 22-24 , you are going to be a master of it anyway, and by the time you are 30, while others are getting their first promotions, you will have your own shop and make all the money. Doesn't mean all can do that, because people are not that smart at 18, but it's possible.

A friend of mine did it as a mechanic, wanted to just be a mechanic, and earns twice as much as I do. So, do not consider education equals money, that's not how it works and it was never the purpose of education.

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September 29, 2023, 03:46:14 PM
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In the past few decades, education was considered very important, academics would definitely get a more decent life than those who were not academics, but as time went by many graduates were created and in the end only those who had the privilege could enjoy a good life.  , it will be difficult for you to get a decent job if you don't have any privileges, in the next few decades we will definitely see more and more graduates becoming unemployed, the competition is getting tougher.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
If you build a career in academic field, then diplomas and degrees will certainly be able to improve your financial condition, but this will take years and if your goal is money, then most likely this field is not the right choice. Because you will need to put in a lot of effort in terms of education and until it starts to pay good dividends, you will have to somehow make ends meet. Again, work in this field is not suitable for everyone, because there are certain intellectual requirements and not everyone is able to obtain an academic degree. If you know what I mean.

Are there limited employment opportunities in the region? And you write about this on the Internet? Don't make me laugh. The whole world is in front of you thanks to the Internet, which allows you to earn money anywhere in the world. Maybe you should spend time gaining skills to work on the Internet instead of diplomas and degrees in academic science? In my opinion, this would be more effective.

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September 29, 2023, 04:51:19 PM
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In the past few decades, education was considered very important, academics would definitely get a more decent life than those who were not academics, but as time went by many graduates were created and in the end only those who had the privilege could enjoy a good life.  , it will be difficult for you to get a decent job if you don't have any privileges, in the next few decades we will definitely see more and more graduates becoming unemployed, the competition is getting tougher.

Of course it's true, along with the development of increasingly sophisticated times, we as a society and the nation's successors must also balance their ability to be able to live properly over time. As we discuss here for those academics, it is clear that they will definitely be able or have the opportunity to get a more decent life. But on the other hand, it cannot be denied that there will always be some individuals who cannot balance it. As we know, knowledge is something very important in life, especially in the matter of finding a job so that we can continue to live.

And even more so, finding a job nowadays is quite difficult, especially if you don't have any skills. That's right, because nowadays it's getting more and more sophisticated, and I will say that you will be fine and able to continue living if you are an academic who has a specialty in yourself, especially in terms of work. Therefore, from now on we must always learn about anything, the point is that can or that has the opportunity to make your life better in the future, create any opportunities from now on, because it is clear that maybe the skills you have now will not be useful in the future.


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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Why are you waiting for you to have work if the entire system is unable to do so? Why don't you create a job for yourself by investing in your skills that you gained from your academic composition? According to your words, the jobs are non -existent in your country and your launch of your own project will be without competition and will help create jobs for others.
The prevailing logic is that the study requires a job later and a few who dare start their own business. I encourage you to be one of them. Perhaps members who launched their work online can inspire you to start with the least capabilities.
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September 29, 2023, 05:26:42 PM
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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
In this case, it is true that you will not be able to achieve a decent or high income just by having a diploma and degree. However, in terms of relationships in the academic field, it can always produce networks or acquaintances which can later be used as capital to enter various sectors. It's not just the diploma or title that is promising, but the social access.

Apart from that, experience in the academic field can train your mentality, communication techniques and approach, which is the main capital in finding a job that might later produce a decent salary. because it is not just a title or diploma, but skills that are possessed or honed while carrying out that education. It is not impossible that high school graduates can get maximum wages provided that the skills they have are commensurate with the work they do.

From all that, there is something promised by the campus, namely the formation of a mindset that results in the development of skills that can be used as capital.
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September 29, 2023, 05:39:00 PM
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Being educated is a good thing but do not think education would give you all you desire. It will only give you the exposure and keeping you knowledgeable enough to know how to apply theories to practical knowledge and experience making what you have learnt become a reality.
Wealth is a function of your knowledge and action putt together so therefore as a graduate it is expected that you be an employer of labour ie you creating job opportunity or being self employed.

With the teaming population and graduates the society is chauning out every year, it is obvious that job opportunities would be like a reserve for the high and mighty. If you have no connection or your parents are not well placed or connected in the society, you will nothing to hold unto. This is the scenario in my country. So one needs to do odd jobs as a graduate to save money and start up a business or travel out of the country.

However, my view is this, education keeps you prepared to meet any opportunity that avails itself towards your direction. So if one is educated, it is good and a plus if you already have a business running.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

There is a very fine line that you have to walk around the time you're going into these forms of higher education. As they can make average intelligence people into above average, but there is a certain cutoff who might struggle through uni but still not have the mental capacity or range to land good jobs afterwards. Different skills can also pay off in wildly different ways, going for a history course for example can get you a qualification and show you can hack the education process, but it doesn't necessarily have wide application in the workplace. If you're going to take on vast amounts of debt, you definitely want to train in skills that will be useful to business, or hope to get lucky competing with many people going for a small amount of jobs in niche fields.

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September 29, 2023, 07:28:29 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

The education alone not give you the good income,because many graduate was doing the food delivery job in many countries.The person who studied with the guy who working in the food delivery will became a millionaire.So the reason is not the education,the reason is the applying skill of the education was the master move here.Now the job was all around the world by the mean of freelancing,you no need to go Dubai to work for the Dubai now.The person who ready to work,will have enough job in the online.

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September 29, 2023, 09:57:28 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

I had to acknowledge the fact that having many academic degrees by going to masteral and doctorate could give you the upper hand in getting accepted for a certain high paying position. But I do not think that is the case anymore in today’s era.

In our family, I am the underdog despite the eldest of the siblings. My married sister has a masteral degree and my youngest has a high paying managerial position due to her outstanding college grades.

As for me? I had a guy who almost got kicked out twice by the university due to many failing grades. My transcript of records were ugly. But I didn’t give up. Still I am fortunate to have decent freelance jobs for years until I got into crypto that changed my life where I had more opportunities than ever not really caring about my academic performance or so.
The worst thing a human being can do is to let his academic qualifications define his success in life. Once that is done, the person will feel less of himself to be successful in life.

It's about time we learn and know that the world is revolving around that it is no longer your educational qualifications that will only bring food to your table but rather your skills and your level of experience in the work to be done. Educational qualifications are not the benchmark of success. To be successful in life depends on your skills and the connection of friends you mingle with.

I am happy that you didn't allow your academic qualifications to pull you down not to excel in other areas of life through freelancing jobs like crypto. I have seen a situation where those who didn't pass the four walls of schools made it bigger in life than those who did to the Ph.D. level.

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September 29, 2023, 11:22:53 PM
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It sets you up for an easier employment cause for the most part it's much easier to get high-paying jobs with a degree that fits the job description, but that doesn't mean it's the end-all-be-all solution to landing an employment willy-nilly. There are other ways for you to land an employment despite not being able to get a degree. One is compounding experience in related fields until you gain enough credibility to land the job on that particular job role. It's been a tried and tested way for many over the years.

Another would be settling for entrepreneurship, if you're someone who's not able to land a concrete job but at the same time someone who couldn't get back to studying just yet for reasons, entrepreneurship might be for you.
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September 29, 2023, 11:45:34 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

The education alone not give you the good income,because many graduate was doing the food delivery job in many countries.The person who studied with the guy who working in the food delivery will became a millionaire.So the reason is not the education,the reason is the applying skill of the education was the master move here.Now the job was all around the world by the mean of freelancing,you no need to go Dubai to work for the Dubai now.The person who ready to work,will have enough job in the online.
even applying the education towards the working field aren't as easy as it pictured out to be.
here's the thing, sometime academic curriculum are so outdated they don't even have place in real work situation, most of the time its just theory and you'll learn something new along the way when you're start working which have zero relation to the academic curiculum presented to you when you are still in college. therefore it most certainly not enough if you want to build your career.
when it comes to entreprenurship it becomes even more irrelevant.
the reason why many bachelor are just working minimum wage job because having bachelor degree aren't anything special anymore, quite literally everyone has it, so if you're not in ivy league big chance you will just outright working minimum wages.

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September 30, 2023, 12:57:04 AM
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There are educated people who are not earning a well suited amount even having degrees and there are some uneducated or less educated people who are earning maximum amount per month so this implies that your earning abilities are not related to your degrees but sometimes skills become more valuable than degrees.

Although having degree can enhances your chances of finding a job but the salaries of today's job is not enough for a family therefore try to find more option. Teachers, doctors, engineer and many others have degrees and earn money but people with less education involved in online earning are more satisfied because their job is comfortable. Degrees never select your destiny but its luck that move you towards a successful terminus.

      There are so many people here in our country who are all degree holders but hang out in their homes. It's not easy to get a job here; 
the competition is fierce because the basis of the companies that most applicants apply for is whether the college you graduated from is reputable, did you complete a high course, and are you always looking for a pleasing personality? And I can add that the sports system sometimes happens; if you have a backup person in the company you are applying to, that will be an advantage right away.

      This is the battle here in our country. The other years that have passed since they graduated have not yet been accepted among those
who applied. So, in short, you are lucky if you get hired for a job.

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I am planning to take a master's degree because I think that it's gonna be tougher in the next years about being employed and you just can't be sure with the company that you're working on even if you've been working for them for several years. I know that loyalty gets rewarded but that's not enough for an individual to get assurance that he won't be replaced due to the advancement of technology especially with AI. In my country, I'm not just so sure why everyone is scared of that, and taking impact is like what I've been absorbing for the past months because I am just uncertain. Whether you have a bachelor's degree or a master's degree, you still are unsure of what's gonna happen with your career. A lot in the different industries are career shifting and that's making the job market saturated and crowded so, I'm just trying to go with the trend but hopefully I can push for my masters if opportunity allows it.

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September 30, 2023, 08:26:53 AM
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I know many many people are claiming degrees are useless: statistically they are not. Nearly in all countries when you have higher educational degree its more likely you land a better job. Yeah obviously all jobs pay very bad nowadays but its more of issue within economy where laborers are getting much less share of gross domestic product... I think if you have time and resources to get a degree - well, do it. It can also help you meet with people with better connection in campus you know.
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I know many many people are claiming degrees are useless: statistically they are not. Nearly in all countries when you have higher educational degree its more likely you land a better job. Yeah obviously all jobs pay very bad nowadays but its more of issue within economy where laborers are getting much less share of gross domestic product... I think if you have time and resources to get a degree - well, do it. It can also help you meet with people with better connection in campus you know.
I agree with you that if we have the capital or facilities to continue our education to a higher level then entering and continuing our education is also a pretty good thing. As long as we have enough finances to support the costs of academic education. As you said, sometimes we can build connections with many great people on campus. Like Mark Zuckerberg, who actually has acquaintances or friends he knew from where he studied who supported him in funding the development of Facebook (Sorry if I'm wrong but I think I've read his story about that). That is the importance of relationships or connections in building a business. And it can be built while we study at university.

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The education alone not give you the good income,because many graduate was doing the food delivery job in many countries.The person who studied with the guy who working in the food delivery will became a millionaire.So the reason is not the education,the reason is the applying skill of the education was the master move here.Now the job was all around the world by the mean of freelancing,you no need to go Dubai to work for the Dubai now.The person who ready to work,will have enough job in the online.

Each of these things has a clear goal, because education will only make someone smarter, although it does not guarantee that someone will become richer. Meanwhile, those who work for money will become millionaires if someone is able to turn their income into valuable capital to build their own business with the aim of becoming rich.

This means that both of these things can both produce useful effects and not be in vain, because if someone is rich, they are not smart enough to manage their business or money. Slowly, that person will also fall into poverty, either because they are cheated by other people or because they are unable to compete due to the current uncertain economic conditions. So both really need to be applied to life so that knowledge and experience in any case are very useful in order to become a millionaire in life.

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The education alone not give you the good income,because many graduate was doing the food delivery job in many countries.The person who studied with the guy who working in the food delivery will became a millionaire.So the reason is not the education,the reason is the applying skill of the education was the master move here.Now the job was all around the world by the mean of freelancing,you no need to go Dubai to work for the Dubai now.The person who ready to work,will have enough job in the online.

Each of these things has a clear goal, because education will only make someone smarter, although it does not guarantee that someone will become richer. Meanwhile, those who work for money will become millionaires if someone is able to turn their income into valuable capital to build their own business with the aim of becoming rich.

This means that both of these things can both produce useful effects and not be in vain, because if someone is rich, they are not smart enough to manage their business or money. Slowly, that person will also fall into poverty, either because they are cheated by other people or because they are unable to compete due to the current uncertain economic conditions. So both really need to be applied to life so that knowledge and experience in any case are very useful in order to become a millionaire in life.

Knowledge and experience are necessary things to become rich or live in better conditions. Education alone is not enough for a person to live in good conditions. Education has many advantages, but it is not possible to live comfortably with the money earned from education.

Many people are looking for additional work. The reason they look for additional work is to increase their income. The advantage of education in this respect is that it creates an advantage in getting used to learning new things more quickly. Those who use this advantage can find ways to increase their income.
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September 30, 2023, 03:09:36 PM
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I agree with you that if we have the capital or facilities to continue our education to a higher level then entering and continuing our education is also a pretty good thing. As long as we have enough finances to support the costs of academic education. As you said, sometimes we can build connections with many great people on campus. Like Mark Zuckerberg, who actually has acquaintances or friends he knew from where he studied who supported him in funding the development of Facebook (Sorry if I'm wrong but I think I've read his story about that). That is the importance of relationships or connections in building a business. And it can be built while we study at university.
Some people consider education to be one of the foundations of their life and they will pursue as high an education as possible even though there are limited costs for continuing it. Education can shape people's character for the better and can also lead someone to the opposite. Education can provide higher knowledge to anyone and they can also expand their connections and can make them achieve a level of success with extensive relationships.

Like the example you gave to Mark Zuckerberg, even though his success was not academic, it was because of his education that he got to know his colleagues and build Facebook bigger together with his friends. Education can lead a person to achieve success and although the path to success can vary.

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September 30, 2023, 05:13:07 PM
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Getting a degree should be a bare minimum to all of us. You won’t instantly get rich but atleast you won’t fall under the average earners. But if you want to get rich then engage with investments and businesses. However, if you’re one with us who does not have the privilege then you have to create your own and in order to do that you also have to get a decent job to be able to save for your future investments. Only a few became rich because of profession but there are many who quite won in life because they opened their path towards investments. Also, education won’t end with the degree; it would also reflect to your success because education will help you with decision making and with ethics as well.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Society wants you to be informed. Books, schools, all kinds of courses and certificates. It does not advise you to take risks. And that is true up to a point. To have enough income to live independently you need a profession. And we can do that through schools. You can't be happy when you're hungry. So my thoughts are for those who have graduated from colleges and universities. If you are still studying, continue.

Let's imagine someone who has spent his whole life with books but has remained asocial. He is probably very knowledgeable. He analyzes you very well, quotes famous philosophers, is generally thoughtful. But this is not real life. Real life asks you to fight.
I'm not trivializing knowledge, I'm arguing that ignorance is a disaster, i just think it's more important to live than to be informed.

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September 30, 2023, 05:40:31 PM
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Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up

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Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up

Currently there are many graduates so competition is getting tougher. I think academic degrees are no longer that important, especially in the digital world, anyone who has skills and experience will have the opportunity to get a good job. However, if we don't have an academic degree, our chances of getting a good job will be smaller.

If we want to compete then we need to improve our skills and abilities. The world of work is getting crueler and competition is getting tougher

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I know many many people are claiming degrees are useless: statistically they are not. Nearly in all countries when you have higher educational degree its more likely you land a better job. Yeah obviously all jobs pay very bad nowadays but its more of issue within economy where laborers are getting much less share of gross domestic product... I think if you have time and resources to get a degree - well, do it. It can also help you meet with people with better connection in campus you know.
I agree with you that if we have the capital or facilities to continue our education to a higher level then entering and continuing our education is also a pretty good thing. As long as we have enough finances to support the costs of academic education. As you said, sometimes we can build connections with many great people on campus. Like Mark Zuckerberg, who actually has acquaintances or friends he knew from where he studied who supported him in funding the development of Facebook (Sorry if I'm wrong but I think I've read his story about that). That is the importance of relationships or connections in building a business. And it can be built while we study at university.

I see some people making gest of education but they don't understand the difference between been educated and going to school. It's obvious everyone pass through school where education is taught but not everyone lives with education, even if you don't have job after passing through school doesn't mean that school is a total waste, there are moral lessons that you learn school that can never be taken away from you, there are valuable lesson as basic education you get in school that you never get from home, you learn some through your teacher, through your friends and through group discussion, that is what you don't get when you stay at home.


Elon Musk is worship for been successful, Zuckerberg is been respected for their contributions on revolutionizing the internet but check very well, half of what they are showing us are actually done by the educated guys who came out best in their class, it's their problem effort we see that these things that are shown to us are successful but the credit goes to the main character who pay them because they have what the good guys need which obviously is the money. Elon Musk didn't build Tesla alone, 90% of the work is a collective effort, Zuckerberg didn't bring Facebook to this frame, developers contribute that idea and that is because of good education. We need to get that straight and make society understand that education is still the best way for income.

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September 30, 2023, 10:13:47 PM
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Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up

Currently there are many graduates so competition is getting tougher. I think academic degrees are no longer that important, especially in the digital world, anyone who has skills and experience will have the opportunity to get a good job. However, if we don't have an academic degree, our chances of getting a good job will be smaller.

If we want to compete then we need to improve our skills and abilities. The world of work is getting crueler and competition is getting tougher

In some country that might be true that academic degree is not really important, and maybe companies doesn't require that nowadays. But at least in where I live, (and maybe some other countries too) most companies are still require related academic degree when they are looking for employee, even in tech and creative related job. However, I think it's just for formality, but the companies will still considering more about the portfolio and experience rather than just academic degree.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Just getting more titles because you think you will get more money later is only a good idea. The first step should always be to check the current job requirements. Is it really necessary to get advanced degrees for your desired job? Let's assume you already have a bachelor degree in a STEM fields and think about a master or PhD before starting to work. For most jobs this is not really necessary and is not going to lead to a higher salary. For many employers the titles only show that you are willing to put in effort to learn new things, but after that it becomes much more important to get work experience than theoretical knowhow. After a few years in your job it's all about your contacts and what you actually earn for the company. A fancy title is not a guarantee to become rich over time. Another aspect is that studying can be quite expensive depending on the country you live in. It's not only the title t itself, but also housing and food cost for another 2-3 years. Then on top of that you need to consider the money you lose our on if you were already working. In most cases it just doesn't pay off.
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Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up
There seems to be a misunderstanding of the highest degree or education, and the purpose of it should be straightened out. I mean, is everyone who pursues a degree aiming to get a big income? There is nothing wrong with that, but we must return to the main purpose of why there is an education. If we're talking about a degree for a higher income then I don't think it's the right thing to do. In my place there are many people who have high degrees, but their income is not as big as people who do not have degrees.
If we think of having a degree to get and work in a big company, I think that's the wrong mindset. Why not think about building your own company?

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October 01, 2023, 03:14:36 PM
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Getting a degree won't guarantee that you will have better income, it depends on many other things too, like what field of study of your degree, where do you live and you also net networking. However, finishing your study and getting degree will open new opportunity, I mean like some high paying job require certain degree, so by having those degree you will have the chance to apply to those job, but then to be accepted, there will be many other factors, like skills, experience, presenting yourself, .etc.

it's true, it really depends on your experience and skills if the company hires you. Getting a degree is really helpful because it's true that you have a greater chance of getting a job than those who didn't graduate, but that doesn't mean you'll immediately have a bigger income just because of it.
There are many who have not completed their studies but their incomes are still large. Just work hard and be patient and never give up

One thing that I have noticed is that people will kind of criticize you when you have a job like in supermarkets or food chains even if you have a degree. I do have a friend of mine that works on a food chain where the salary is at minimum wage and mostly when his aunt or some of his schoolmates ask why he needs to work on that establishment even though he has a degree that friend of mine has no choice as he has a family to feed. People's expectations are too high when it comes to degree holders as they think that they will have a great chance of having a job with a high salary which again won't depend on you and the company where you are working.
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Knowledge and experience are necessary things to become rich or live in better conditions. Education alone is not enough for a person to live in good conditions. Education has many advantages, but it is not possible to live comfortably with the money earned from education.
The aim of education is to seek knowledge and make everyone smarter in certain fields so that this can be a little helpful for everyone who wants to use that knowledge in life or when they run a business in the long term. Meanwhile, experience can be formed when each person has been in a job for a long time and they will gain this over time.

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Many people are looking for additional work. The reason they look for additional work is to increase their income. The advantage of education in this respect is that it creates an advantage in getting used to learning new things more quickly. Those who use this advantage can find ways to increase their income.
That is a quite natural reason and also quite logical for everyone, because when everyone has found an additional job with a fairly sufficient income, they no longer worry about the difficulties they have to face in life. So it is necessary to help each of them and those who have special education, of course it will be easier to adapt to environmental conditions and to take advantage of certain opportunities to get work.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Here in my country, knowledge is just like something you acquire, definetly everyone is expected to acquire knowledge. But the ability to make money does not depend on your education status. Most billoniara in my country didn't even have a 1st degree satificate and sometimes seeing all this discourages the young graduate with no job and now nobody wants to talk about education, everyone looking for money. What am trying to say is if you have the opportunity and the skill to make money graduate or not graduate grab the opportunity

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Here in my country, knowledge is just like something you acquire, definetly everyone is expected to acquire knowledge. But the ability to make money does not depend on your education status. Most billoniara in my country didn't even have a 1st degree satificate and sometimes seeing all this discourages the young graduate with no job and now nobody wants to talk about education, everyone looking for money. What am trying to say is if you have the opportunity and the skill to make money graduate or not graduate grab the opportunity
But it would really be that so bad on instilling into your mind that education wont really be that an important thing about being successful. It is really just that those people who do become multi-millionaires or billionaires
came from hard work isnt really that something easy for the path that they had taken. We cant really deny that having course or having educational background does really give out that kind of advantage compare to those who have none but since there are really various life conditions on which it is really just that hard or something that cant be avoided then for sure you would really be definitely be ending up whether you would fail or succeed but never ever put up into your mind that education is shit or useless.

Be grateful that your parents do really able to afford on sending you to school or universities on which it is really that a good thing for you to have. It might not be giving out that success guarantees
but at least you do able to get or acquired those knowledge on which it would really be something that could be helping you out on onto your future endeavors
on which comparing to those who do lack studies or knowledge then you do able to point out on some key differences.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right
If your ideas to being schooled and getting a degree revolves around working for people in offices or sites, then you might as well be having a wrong education. It’s just a matter of the few finding these jobs as, you rightly said, there are no jobs and in most instances, jobs when available aren’t announced but, linked by those already in the system to desired applicants.

While getting schooled and some education, be well aware that you could as well create jobs that would employ others.

One thing also that kills the system is the lack of specialization. Where you could find someone from a different field. Seeking jobs outside his area of specialization. It damages the system even more and makes invalid the learned skill.

Education doesn’t promise you everything but rather offers you the opportunity to create something.

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Lol. In my own country the rhythm is everywhere... School na scam...celebrities add juice to it in music. You can imagine where a history and international student working as an accountant, a first class degree holder is in the street looking for the side that is greener. As a graduate of a university it seems as though you starting life afresh, thereby discouraging the younger ones who are looking up to you, to drop out of school and acquire a meaningful skill. But in a well advanced countries that values education, reverse is the case. Education is the key no doubt, it exposes you to greater opportunities and experiences of life. If you find yourself in a country that values education, its advisable to further your education and  acquire more degrees but if you find yourself in my kinda country and you're opportune to study, go ahead and study and simply back it up with a skill that will keep you going when you turn a graduate. I'm a living witness.
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October 01, 2023, 11:00:18 PM
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I know many many people are claiming degrees are useless: statistically they are not. Nearly in all countries when you have higher educational degree its more likely you land a better job. Yeah obviously all jobs pay very bad nowadays but its more of issue within economy where laborers are getting much less share of gross domestic product... I think if you have time and resources to get a degree - well, do it. It can also help you meet with people with better connection in campus you know.
No matter how low people can talk against degree these days. It does not mean that degree doesn't have a good effect in the society anymore. There are some countries where the prestige of having a college degree is gradually diminishing while in some countries, having a degree will give you a good job and also ensure your promotion throughout your working period.

People with higher degree acquires higher officers in their workplace and then fatter salary while the technicians without degrees who actually are the people that execute the work do not earn much. This is the reason people encourage children to go to the college and acquire degree.

But in the international standard the world is moving away from degree. It is about the ability to solve problems and make money. You may have degree and your degree may not be recognised in another country. So you will be internationally irrelevant

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

It might not need to be a degree probably just a vocational course would be enough to learn about income and finances how you going to manage it something like investment how you going to get financial freedom etc. I just think that it is what the educational system doesn't teach us how we are going to manage our finances and how are we going to invest, insurance and everything, it almost seems like we are getting programs after our education so that we would just become an employee, not something like starting a business something like that.

In my personal experience having this kind of knowledge about finances is really a good help since it did change a lot since I changed my mindset when it comes to my finances, I take it very seriously and budget my salary and make sure that I have multiple sources of income in order to make a good saving and positively invest in the future to a passive income or something like a business, i just listens to a lot of podcast about financial and eventually learned a lot about it and apply it to my financial as well.

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Getting a degree should be a bare minimum to all of us. You won’t instantly get rich but atleast you won’t fall under the average earners. But if you want to get rich then engage with investments and businesses. However, if you’re one with us who does not have the privilege then you have to create your own and in order to do that you also have to get a decent job to be able to save for your future investments. Only a few became rich because of profession but there are many who quite won in life because they opened their path towards investments. Also, education won’t end with the degree; it would also reflect to your success because education will help you with decision making and with ethics as well.
have to add that getting bachelor degree even masters all the way up to the peak is relatively easy these days, and what I mean is the acomodation, there are quite literally so many online bachelor degree available for many that are already working but stuck at highschool diploma and its relatively flexible scheduling too which means its true that at least getting a degree should be bare minimum. there just simply no excuse to not take one.
at least with degree it opens up opportunity that we initially doesn't have and thats enough for us to build career from scratch.
otherwise with highschool diploma, there's nothing massive in term of opportunity that we can take.

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I think that if you graduated from a well-known university and graduated with honors and the course you completed was good, you are at an advantage to be accepted immediately by a company that you will apply to or maybe compete with other companies. Because that's the battle here in our country, then the sport of backing up the applicants is also the battle.

The fight is really unfair. Think about it: even if the degree you took is higher, if you don't have a backer who will help you within the company you will apply to, you will have no fight because the one with a backer will be prioritized, even if the one who will be admitted is



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October 02, 2023, 03:57:49 AM
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Getting a degree should be a bare minimum to all of us. You won’t instantly get rich but atleast you won’t fall under the average earners. But if you want to get rich then engage with investments and businesses. However, if you’re one with us who does not have the privilege then you have to create your own and in order to do that you also have to get a decent job to be able to save for your future investments. Only a few became rich because of profession but there are many who quite won in life because they opened their path towards investments. Also, education won’t end with the degree; it would also reflect to your success because education will help you with decision making and with ethics as well.
have to add that getting bachelor degree even masters all the way up to the peak is relatively easy these days, and what I mean is the acomodation, there are quite literally so many online bachelor degree available for many that are already working but stuck at highschool diploma and its relatively flexible scheduling too which means its true that at least getting a degree should be bare minimum. there just simply no excuse to not take one.
at least with degree it opens up opportunity that we initially doesn't have and thats enough for us to build career from scratch.
otherwise with highschool diploma, there's nothing massive in term of opportunity that we can take.


There are tons of universities offering it but the problem is only if you have money and also time because mostly those people who are taking it say that either they have money or no time to go to school but for us like no money and also busy working because we have a family to feed. I know you need to make sacrifices if you plan to have a degree whether online or in actual school because youll be busy on something aside from going to school so you manage to have time for it and sacrifice others.

There are tons of jobs that open to you when you have a degree but this only depends on what kind of degree you have because others tend to find a job with a huge salary by just being self-taught.
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I think that if you graduated from a well-known university and graduated with honors and the course you completed was good, you are at an advantage to be accepted immediately by a company that you will apply to or maybe compete with other companies. Because that's the battle here in our country, then the sport of backing up the applicants is also the battle.

The fight is really unfair. Think about it: even if the degree you took is higher, if you don't have a backer who will help you within the company you will apply to, you will have no fight because the one with a backer will be prioritized, even if the one who will be admitted is
Sad reality, really. However, I would like to add that these days having a good educational background wouldn't even cut it anymore. No matter how good your completed course is and what prestige university you came from, most companies and businesses nowadays requires a lot of things from their employees before they even hire them. I remember a discussion here in our country that received a lot of feedbacks and opinions from the general people regarding the over demanding requirements needed to apply for a relatively small salary job, applicants for the position were expected to be a graduate of a four-year Bachelor's degree and have good experiences on their field. However, if you look at the offered salary it obviously isn't enough, it's even lower than minimum.

Thing is, these days having good educational background isn't enough to land someone a job.

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I think that if you graduated from a well-known university and graduated with honors and the course you completed was good, you are at an advantage to be accepted immediately by a company that you will apply to or maybe compete with other companies. Because that's the battle here in our country, then the sport of backing up the applicants is also the battle.
This is a battle that has been around for a long time and often occurs in several countries, because what companies need are workers who are smart enough and have had experience before someone graduates from college. Companies will always consider these two things in their prospective employees, because being intelligent with theory alone will not be enough if someone does not have experience in the field required by the company. Vice versa, so that each person must have a certain level of intelligence and experience that he gained through his work in the past or when he was still studying, so that when he graduates, the company can immediately consider that person as a new employee and place him in the most suitable field.

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The fight is really unfair. Think about it: even if the degree you took is higher, if you don't have a backer who will help you within the company you will apply to, you will have no fight because the one with a backer will be prioritized, even if the one who will be admitted is
If we think in that direction, it really seems unfair. But for someone who is fighting to get a job, I don't think there is a need to look at that direction as a barrier, because that could be a door to enter a company. I think everyone will also look for ways to get closer to people who are already in the company so that they can offer themselves to become employees there by showing some of the achievements they have achieved in the past. And also each person will tell about their own experience in the field required by the company so that the qualifications required by the company can be truly appropriate.

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October 02, 2023, 04:24:49 PM
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I don't know where do you live. In the most developed countries, the educational system(universities and college) is slowly turning into a scam. The students have to pay absurd tuition fees and get into student debt only to find out that's it's hard for them to get a good job after they graduate. Having a university degree makes sense only if you want to pursue a career as a government clerk, lawyer or doctor.
If you want to work in other industries(in the private sector) having skills and experience are more important than a diploma.

Universities and colleges in our country just wasting students time,  mostly the students do copy from each other in these universities,  and also after they get some degree then they are not able to work according to the company and according to the manager's need.

Another thing they should watch out is wasting young generation talent by not giving them much opportunities in other things. They are telling students to only do the studies,  but not other physical activities,  which is not good at all. They should also consider a student's physical activities as well as their improved studies.

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October 02, 2023, 10:21:03 PM
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Universities and colleges in our country just wasting students time,  mostly the students do copy from each other in these universities,  and also after they get some degree then they are not able to work according to the company and according to the manager's need.

Another thing they should watch out is wasting young generation talent by not giving them much opportunities in other things. They are telling students to only do the studies,  but not other physical activities,  which is not good at all. They should also consider a student's physical activities as well as their improved studies.

In my own opinion going to school or being educated doesn’t determine how successful one can be. They are lot of school dropouts who are still successful in their field. The world has evolve to the point where one can get schooled  online and using YouTube. YouTube has really been a help in solving problems, they are online business that can generate money for both the educated and uneducated people, with just learning and mastering a skill online can generate wealth for a person without any educational qualifications. Even though being educated is very important but with the current unemployment situation of the country a lot of young professional dreams are dying. People no longer see the need of going to school because of this.
 In a country like the USA going to college is not a do or die thing, a lot of people chose not go to college but rather prefer  pursue other dreams. They are lot of talented young people in the world. The world richest footballer (Cristiano Ronaldo) didn’t have any educational qualifications to gain his wealth. We don’t need academic qualifications to gain wealth. There are lot of ways of earning in the internet. People work remotely now learning skills on Udemy or YouTube to build their skill.
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Universities and colleges in our country just wasting students time,  mostly the students do copy from each other in these universities,  and also after they get some degree then they are not able to work according to the company and according to the manager's need.

Any education is definitely useful, especially education at university level. Lectures will provide an opening to thoughts and ways of learning, the level of education on campus is different from high school. Someone who has become a graduate should have their own way and pattern of learning because the education system is adult education (andragogy). However, if students mostly cheat and copy paper assignments, it means they don't have a learning pattern and it is their own fault.

Another thing they should watch out is wasting young generation talent by not giving them much opportunities in other things. They are telling students to only do the studies,  but not other physical activities,  which is not good at all. They should also consider a student's physical activities as well as their improved studies.

As long as their talent is not banned then it is fine. I think you are too dependent on the state and want to be given facilities. If you have talent then develop it as long as no one forbids it then there is no problem
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October 02, 2023, 10:56:40 PM
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Any education is definitely useful, especially education at university level. Lectures will provide an opening to thoughts and ways of learning, the level of education on campus is different from high school. Someone who has become a graduate should have their own way and pattern of learning because the education system is adult education (andragogy). However, if students mostly cheat and copy paper assignments, it means they don't have a learning pattern and it is their own fault.

As I have ready mentioned that ,  with having a better education,  universities should also take care of there students physical activities. Regarding this matter,  if a student is not good at its academic session and he wants to be an athlete,  how could he express himself in a University where the university is only focusing on his academic skills or academic career? And same example is a student who wants himself on some other areas of competition,  he should also gives the same skills training or knowledge,  that whenever he is going to some tough competition ,  he would be selected there and can give a tough time.

I'm just expressing universities of our country,  may be in other countries it is not going to do the same. Because every country has its own system of education.

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I don't know where do you live. In the most developed countries, the educational system(universities and college) is slowly turning into a scam. The students have to pay absurd tuition fees and get into student debt only to find out that's it's hard for them to get a good job after they graduate. Having a university degree makes sense only if you want to pursue a career as a government clerk, lawyer or doctor.
If you want to work in other industries(in the private sector) having skills and experience are more important than a diploma.

Universities and colleges in our country just wasting students time,  mostly the students do copy from each other in these universities,  and also after they get some degree then they are not able to work according to the company and according to the manager's need.

Another thing they should watch out is wasting young generation talent by not giving them much opportunities in other things. They are telling students to only do the studies,  but not other physical activities,  which is not good at all. They should also consider a student's physical activities as well as their improved studies.
yeah sometime the academic system is just outright shit in some countries out there, considering the fact that we are paying for these college degree and the learning from it, even using kinda outdated curriculum is already massive waste of time. imagine wasting years just to learn something that actually shouldn't be learned at all because outdated.
but it still undenied fact that college degree is still gateway to open up better career because its just the requirement for many jobs out there that are white collar.
you just follow the system and thats it, you can build your career up despite feeling silly.

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October 02, 2023, 11:55:06 PM
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Any education is definitely useful, especially education at university level. Lectures will provide an opening to thoughts and ways of learning, the level of education on campus is different from high school. Someone who has become a graduate should have their own way and pattern of learning because the education system is adult education (andragogy). However, if students mostly cheat and copy paper assignments, it means they don't have a learning pattern and it is their own fault.

As I have ready mentioned that ,  with having a better education,  universities should also take care of there students physical activities. Regarding this matter,  if a student is not good at its academic session and he wants to be an athlete,  how could he express himself in a University where the university is only focusing on his academic skills or academic career? And same example is a student who wants himself on some other areas of competition,  he should also gives the same skills training or knowledge,  that whenever he is going to some tough competition ,  he would be selected there and can give a tough time.

I'm just expressing universities of our country,  may be in other countries it is not going to do the same. Because every country has its own system of education.


I think all universities have their own departments, you can choose one that suits your passion, talent and interest. So if you like sports then go to a university that has a sports department or other sports. So at a university the task is to provide lessons according to the major chosen by the student, for example you take economics, politics or law. If campuses have to teach students everything then majors will be useless and there will be no special abilities

In my opinion, good or bad a university will not shackle our brains. Nowadays there is the internet and we learn a lot there. Blaming a bad campus won't mean anything, but if we have a good study pattern then wherever we are we will always know how to study.
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October 02, 2023, 11:59:49 PM
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I don't know where do you live. In the most developed countries, the educational system(universities and college) is slowly turning into a scam. The students have to pay absurd tuition fees and get into student debt only to find out that's it's hard for them to get a good job after they graduate. Having a university degree makes sense only if you want to pursue a career as a government clerk, lawyer or doctor.
If you want to work in other industries(in the private sector) having skills and experience are more important than a diploma.

Universities and colleges in our country just wasting students time,  mostly the students do copy from each other in these universities,  and also after they get some degree then they are not able to work according to the company and according to the manager's need.

Another thing they should watch out is wasting young generation talent by not giving them much opportunities in other things. They are telling students to only do the studies,  but not other physical activities,  which is not good at all. They should also consider a student's physical activities as well as their improved studies.
Things like this we should also realise that basically taking a major is important.
Academics even though it is something very good but in the end when the creativity of a student is developed then I think in this case he also knows what he has to do.
In some developed countries we have also often seen when in the end there are some non-academic conditions that can be used as a basis or reference for enthusiasts such as sports in football academies etc. or in matters of art but that does not mean that those who are here also eliminate education just like that because we must be aware that education is still important, it's just that the portion is less than the field of interest.

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October 03, 2023, 03:34:15 AM
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In the past few decades, education was considered very important, academics would definitely get a more decent life than those who were not academics, but as time went by many graduates were created and in the end only those who had the privilege could enjoy a good life.  , it will be difficult for you to get a decent job if you don't have any privileges, in the next few decades we will definitely see more and more graduates becoming unemployed, the competition is getting tougher.

Education was at a time, a distinct requirement if you planned on getting a white collar job that pays handsomely. Over time, the importance of education has declined as employers are increasingly concerned with hiring the best staff available that can actually do the job and that’s where skills and technical know-how comes into play.

Our colleges and universities are constantly producing new graduates but the labor market isn’t always ready to make room for new arrivals hence the rise in unemployment rates.
As there are more qualified workers than there are available jobs, the employer has the luxury of choice and would be looking out from loads of applicants, for someone having required skills and training alongside a degree.


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October 03, 2023, 04:16:07 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
The problem could be that the government isn't employing the right people especially that they are suppose to be the biggest employers of a country..

Secondly, if the government isn't proactive in the employment exercise, then the private sector is employing its people using nepotism and not taking into account one's qualifications..but don't give up as skilled labor is what it takes to help in the development of a country and sooner or later the graduates will be called up to fill the void.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
And this is were it all goes wrong, without any experience whatsoever, people want to be paid the most money which isn't right...a life hack to this is to forget about the degree to tone down the pride lol, get into the labor force and allow yourself to get the needed experience and see your skillset become the most sort after & money follow you... Slow but steady wins the race.

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October 03, 2023, 06:31:07 AM
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Gaining education is very good as it builds you the confidence to communicate and engage with people of different backgrounds  works of life and one of such importance of being educated can be related to members in the forum as without haven been educated at some point we won't be having this conversation or discussion.

Education is this current dispensation is underrated due to the lack of available white collar jobs and with the advancement of technology which has brought a paradigm shift from white collar jobs to technical and skills based jobs that's why people have to be watchful of the needs and opportunities available in their respective society before moving on to acquire a particular degree in a certain field for them to stay relevant and guaranteed of making income from it.

People often times makes the mistake of acquiring degrees in fields that the services are no longer invoke or scout hence the reason for many unemployed graduates. It therefore makes it important for universities and the government to scrap or sanitize some academic disciplines that are no more of any value in this current phase of the human existence.

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October 03, 2023, 06:39:42 AM
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Education makes a person better; that's very basic. However, getting a degree means you add another layer of knowledge, which can give you a better advantage over your competitors who don't have a degree. However, do consider the country you are living in, as the economy of a country can significantly affect how valuable your degree is.

For example, if you are living in a poor country, it's presumed that the unemployment rate is high. Even worse is if underemployment is also prevalent, as this would make your degree less valuable due to few jobs created but many people with degrees looking for employment.

Based on my personal experience, I find it more ideal to start a business than to look for a job due to the income difference, though the former may seem riskier. On the other hand, if you still want to use your degree, it's better to go overseas and work in countries where salary rates are good, so at least you can be justified for the hard work you put into earning your degree.

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October 03, 2023, 08:10:43 AM
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Getting a degree & being well-educated certainly helps to get a good job but it’s not a necessity. If you have a skill or a really good, outgoing personality you can earn just as much, if not more money than somebody who is much more intelligent than you. I know lots of people who went to college & ended up being teachers. I didn’t go to college & I am far more financially successful than all of them. Also, you are here on bitcointalk.org, you don’t need a degree to buy Bitcoin & become wealthy that way.
Academic qualification is indeed good for knowing some basic stuff in life and as well get you a job for a start-up, but the certification alone does not guarantee you a job, hence the need for acquiring more skills becomes necessary. Even in school, they don't teach you financial education or how to earn money but teach you how to interact and face the society. If you check I don't see any academic professor who made a list of the world's richest men.

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October 03, 2023, 08:40:08 AM
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I think that if you graduated from a well-known university and graduated with honors and the course you completed was good, you are at an advantage to be accepted immediately by a company that you will apply to or maybe compete with other companies. Because that's the battle here in our country, then the sport of backing up the applicants is also the battle.

The fight is really unfair. Think about it: even if the degree you took is higher, if you don't have a backer who will help you within the company you will apply to, you will have no fight because the one with a backer will be prioritized, even if the one who will be admitted is
Most people have high achievements in academics and graduate with the best grades. So, as you said, it will be easier for them to be accepted by companies that need their services. Sometimes they are even immediately offered jobs by companies who are interested in these outstanding students. It's just that it is very rare for someone to become an outstanding student and always be the best. Because most of us can only afford to be ordinary students.

And it's true that not everyone with a high level of education will find it easy to apply for jobs. Because currently relationships and connections with insiders are sometimes what is most needed to make it easier for us to be accepted into a company.

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October 03, 2023, 09:33:20 AM
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Education makes a person better; that's very basic. However, getting a degree means you add another layer of knowledge, which can give you a better advantage over your competitors who don't have a degree. However, do consider the country you are living in, as the economy of a country can significantly affect how valuable your degree is.

For example, if you are living in a poor country, it's presumed that the unemployment rate is high. Even worse is if underemployment is also prevalent, as this would make your degree less valuable due to few jobs created but many people with degrees looking for employment.

Based on my personal experience, I find it more ideal to start a business than to look for a job due to the income difference, though the former may seem riskier. On the other hand, if you still want to use your degree, it's better to go overseas and work in countries where salary rates are good, so at least you can be justified for the hard work you put into earning your degree.
You appear to believe that a degree is only a "extra layer" of education. Cute. There is more to a degree than just a piece of paper. It serves as proof of one's dedication, discipline, and perseverance.

How does a nation's economy impact the worth of a degree, then? Okay, that makes sense. What if earning a degree has benefits that goes beyond finding employment? What if the goal is to advance personally, network, and broaden one's outlook?

Creating a company rather than hunting for employment? Yes, if you have the resources, the concept, and the guts. Keep in mind, though, that not everyone is made out for the world of entrepreneurship. Going abroad, too? It is not an easy task. There are many difficulties associated with moving abroad, including culture shock, homesickness, and settling in. However, if you believe you have it figured out, then by all means, bravo.

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October 03, 2023, 10:25:41 AM
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Education makes a person better; that's very basic. However, getting a degree means you add another layer of knowledge, which can give you a better advantage over your competitors who don't have a degree. However, do consider the country you are living in, as the economy of a country can significantly affect how valuable your degree is.

For example, if you are living in a poor country, it's presumed that the unemployment rate is high. Even worse is if underemployment is also prevalent, as this would make your degree less valuable due to few jobs created but many people with degrees looking for employment.

Based on my personal experience, I find it more ideal to start a business than to look for a job due to the income difference, though the former may seem riskier. On the other hand, if you still want to use your degree, it's better to go overseas and work in countries where salary rates are good, so at least you can be justified for the hard work you put into earning your degree.
You appear to believe that a degree is only a "extra layer" of education. Cute. There is more to a degree than just a piece of paper. It serves as proof of one's dedication, discipline, and perseverance.
I don't know if what I said was the proper term, but I just want to emphasize based on the situation of OP where he lives in a country where the salaries are not good. For me, having a degree gives you an edge over others who don't, but it still does not give you the satisfaction of earning because the overall economy of the nation is struggling.

You can be a doctor in a poor country, but you are earning just like a janitor in a rich country. That's simply what I'm trying to say.


How does a nation's economy impact the worth of a degree, then? Okay, that makes sense. What if earning a degree has benefits that goes beyond finding employment? What if the goal is to advance personally, network, and broaden one's outlook?
I was referring to the value of money or salary when I said 'worth' because the topic was about money earned as a salary. In terms of the purpose served, of course, a degree holder can do the job, but the salary is not worth it.

Creating a company rather than hunting for employment? Yes, if you have the resources, the concept, and the guts. Keep in mind, though, that not everyone is made out for the world of entrepreneurship. Going abroad, too? It is not an easy task. There are many difficulties associated with moving abroad, including culture shock, homesickness, and settling in. However, if you believe you have it figured out, then by all means, bravo.

When you are planning to create a company or start a business, which is specifically what I said, it doesn't require a lot of money. Anyone can do it from the very beginning with a small capital. I'm suggesting to be more practical and forget about a degree when you are still complaining about what you earn or if you see that businessmen earn more money compared to people who are employed.

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October 03, 2023, 12:13:33 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

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October 03, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.


I will point China as an example, not that they do not go to school but they focus more on production and services, this can be achieved with or without degrees and they care currently one of the largest economy in the world.
The concept of producing a comodity or rendering a service isn't only taught in schools, besides that, the practical experience of getting your hands dirty is not in the classroom but out there in the field. The school is poised with the responsibility of giving you the principles which will serve as a fundamental knowledge to you but to really be successful, you have to adenture into having a product or a service that you offer.

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October 03, 2023, 12:56:20 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

You are right. It depends on a lot of things. For example, in the country I live in education certainly counts. Having a good degree and coming from a good school gives a good advantage, however, that necessarily isn't enough as employers often look for experiences in the field an individual is applying to for them to be considered for the role they are applying to. Hence, in my opinion, it is best to find part-time jobs that are remote and time-flexible while studying so that way we are able to get both the degree and the experience.

The world is full of competition and being able to have as much advantage as you can allows us to have a better standing against other competitors.

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October 03, 2023, 01:14:37 PM
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~snip~  Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

I am sure that effort and hard work will ultimately bring goodness. In fact, there is no guarantee that economic and financial conditions will be better if we have a good academic degree, but those who have a good academic degree have a greater chance of getting a good job with a high salary. Life is about contestation and opportunities, whoever can take advantage of opportunities and work hard, I am sure he will get maximum results someday

So as long as there is still time and opportunity, I think there is no harm in studying and seeking an academic degree for the future. Even though we don't know what will happen in the future, we still have to try hard
Being educated or having a good academic certificate does not guarantee a good job in a country. Because if there are not more industrial establishments or business establishments in that country then job opportunities will not be created. However, those who are highly educated will have more chances of getting government job, but there is also competition and there is no guarantee that everyone will get the job. However, where there are more companies established in the area, job opportunities will also increase. Government alone cannot reduce the unemployment of large number of people by providing government jobs. A country where people study only for jobs will find it difficult to get jobs.
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October 03, 2023, 01:19:38 PM
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In today's working world, some mainstream companies still require job applicants to have at least a university degree. Diplomas are mainly seen as a means for employees to advance their careers. However, for an employer, it's not a prerequisite.

Fundamentally, in the professional realm, skills take precedence. A diploma signifies that someone has undergone formal education, but it doesn't guarantee their ability to perform well. Therefore, what's more crucial than a diploma nowadays is one's portfolio.

The more evidence you have of your work, the better companies can assess your abilities without having to rely on a diploma. You just need to put in extra effort to prove that with your portfolio, you are genuinely capable of excelling in your job.

One day in the future, we will witness that those who hold diplomas portfolio are the ones deserving of employment.


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October 03, 2023, 06:33:35 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

Choosing whether to continue your education or not will really depend on a person's personality, there are some people who are able to do both of these things and there are also those who only choose to pursue one field that they like until they earn an income from it. However, I think, without having expertise in the field of education that we have completed, we will not be able to find work with the degree that we have.
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

Choosing whether to continue your education or not will really depend on a person's personality, there are some people who are able to do both of these things and there are also those who only choose to pursue one field that they like until they earn an income from it. However, I think, without having expertise in the field of education that we have completed, we will not be able to find work with the degree that we have.
In todays situation specially on some countries on which unemployment rate is really that high then no matter how many degrees that you have obtained or able to finish which it wont really be giving you the guarantee on

getting a decent job or would really be according into your expertise on which it might really be leading you no choice but to apply on something which is really that out of scope of your interest, and since you dont have no choice then for sure you cant really be happy and not really be that efficient when it comes to your work but later on on the time that you do able to make yourself get used to it then this is where contentment begins.
We know getting job is tough due to high competition but having degree would really be putting you up some advantage compared into those people who doesnt have one.

It did really just turn out that in todays situation where there are people who dont have proper education or degree is much more richer compared into those professionals.
Why? lots of opportunities that we could see around and it turns out that it becomes that relevant and significant to other people.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.


I will point China as an example, not that they do not go to school but they focus more on production and services, this can be achieved with or without degrees and they care currently one of the largest economy in the world.
The concept of producing a comodity or rendering a service isn't only taught in schools, besides that, the practical experience of getting your hands dirty is not in the classroom but out there in the field. The school is poised with the responsibility of giving you the principles which will serve as a fundamental knowledge to you but to really be successful, you have to adenture into having a product or a service that you offer.
china is a country where education is everything honestly, same with korea and japan i doubt they put education second, because as far as I know there if you don't get into prestigious university you will become second rate workers.
moreover its undeniable fact that there are many people becoming rich in china due to the manufacturing of products by simply owning factory that is in demand by the western but that also need capital.
you just don't go around starting factory with zero dollar as initial capital, you need money from somewhere, and if you don't have your best bet would be scoring high at gaokao getting into good university and getting that good earning in large corporation.
the path of entrepreneurship that you mentioned is the path for those with money.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

Choosing whether to continue your education or not will really depend on a person's personality, there are some people who are able to do both of these things and there are also those who only choose to pursue one field that they like until they earn an income from it. However, I think, without having expertise in the field of education that we have completed, we will not be able to find work with the degree that we have.

There's some people who can really handle the pressure of academic and his job. But whenever you come up in this situation, you will have to sacrifice something like your health, time and stress. From that, by not handling both you decided to choose one like focus on your study but not having an income or focus on your work but your time are focused on work than having a degree. There's nothing wrong on choosing what path do you think would fit on you, cause some people were rather choose survival, but they know that having a degree is a benefit for finding a higher paying jobs which can be good in the future. Don't feel left behind if some of your mates already graduated while you are still working, or the other hand. We all have different paces and situation in life, so just focus on what you think the best for you.

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October 04, 2023, 03:25:56 AM
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Getting highest degree opening bigger chance or opportunity with higher income but depend with your skill not only about how highest your degree achievement, in the field your experienced and working skill needed not only about with highest of your degree but also depend with skill do you have related or not based on your degree. In my country Indonesia, there are not really important about how highest your degree but how improvement your skill will give help to get more or bigger income.

I think have good ideas if you have been success with achievement highest degree why not apply working on bigger company outside from your country, based on Europe Union have highest payment salary you can apply job there than focus with highest degree in your country but still difficult to earn bigger income. Related in my country when salary payment around $300 every month but when working on other country they will pay based on how many hour of working.

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Getting highest degree opening bigger chance or opportunity with higher income but depend with your skill not only about how highest your degree achievement, in the field your experienced and working skill needed not only about with highest of your degree but also depend with skill do you have related or not based on your degree. In my country Indonesia, there are not really important about how highest your degree but how improvement your skill will give help to get more or bigger income.

I think have good ideas if you have been success with achievement highest degree why not apply working on bigger company outside from your country, based on Europe Union have highest payment salary you can apply job there than focus with highest degree in your country but still difficult to earn bigger income. Related in my country when salary payment around $300 every month but when working on other country they will pay based on how many hour of working.
It's true that in our country, namely Indonesia, it is basically our own skills that make us more likely to make more money.
However, a high bachelor's degree is an important support in order to meet the requirements to be accepted for work in a company. But relationships or connections are always needed too.

But when we have expertise or skills that exceed other people, even without a diploma, there will be many companies offering us jobs. Because one of my acquaintances is also like that. He didn't go to high school. But because he has above average expertise in a field. Then he was offered a job by a company directly without having to take part in a selection or anything. But not everyone can be so lucky. And in reality, skills are still very important. And if you add an educational degree then it will be even better.

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October 04, 2023, 12:34:46 PM
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Degree is a certificate obtained when graduated from a department of studies so I am would say that obtaining numberous degree is as investors diversifies their source of incomes (investment).
Without going contrarily, studying in different fields is a process of obtaining versatile knowledges as a process of education.
There are people who majorly enjoys studying just as to be knowledgeable while there are people who studies to secure jobs but however, studying has the potentials to secure you job (s) due to an acknowledgement and with the prove of your certificate obtained.
Studying would nurture your aid of ability to expantiate their theorical and practical ability which tends to build your imperfection of being perfect of not professional.

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In our country, even applying as a cashier you need be at least a college graduate. Nowadays, employers have a high standard when it comes to hiring employees. If you have a skill in some field, and you have a degree, that is a plus factor when it comes to applying for a better paying job.

There are really some company that will check your experience depends on the field that you are applying and offer you a decent amount of salary, you are lucky enough if the employer will disregard your background in school and focus solely on your skill. But wherever you go, you will definitely meet an employer that have a high standard, that's why having a degree is really better.


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October 04, 2023, 06:27:58 PM
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In our country, even applying as a cashier you need be at least a college graduate. Nowadays, employers have a high standard when it comes to hiring employees. If you have a skill in some field, and you have a degree, that is a plus factor when it comes to applying for a better paying job.

There are really some company that will check your experience depends on the field that you are applying and offer you a decent amount of salary, you are lucky enough if the employer will disregard your background in school and focus solely on your skill. But wherever you go, you will definitely meet an employer that have a high standard, that's why having a degree is really better.
Exactly. Both academic background and experience are mostly required by a lot of employers now. The standards for some low-paying roles can even be obnoxious at times when you do some research and realize that it's not the same with other countries. Hence, it is understandable why some individuals are having a hard time finding jobs.

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October 04, 2023, 08:03:08 PM
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An academic pursuit sure increases ones ability to earn and broadens their thinking scope to explore other options beyond ones boundaries.
You know academic pursuit could even be on the subject of expansion of ones knowledge on BTC and the cryptocurrencies market or based on cyber security for all things relating to decentralized wallets or systems for those who need to be secure from hackers.
It is way better to pursue academy qualifications in an area where one is more passionate about than in other areas because people are doing so or as directed by anyone who's someone to us.

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October 04, 2023, 08:07:45 PM
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Getting highest degree opening bigger chance or opportunity with higher income but depend with your skill not only about how highest your degree achievement, in the field your experienced and working skill needed not only about with highest of your degree but also depend with skill do you have related or not based on your degree. In my country Indonesia, there are not really important about how highest your degree but how improvement your skill will give help to get more or bigger income.

I think have good ideas if you have been success with achievement highest degree why not apply working on bigger company outside from your country, based on Europe Union have highest payment salary you can apply job there than focus with highest degree in your country but still difficult to earn bigger income. Related in my country when salary payment around $300 every month but when working on other country they will pay based on how many hour of working.
It's true that in our country, namely Indonesia, it is basically our own skills that make us more likely to make more money.
However, a high bachelor's degree is an important support in order to meet the requirements to be accepted for work in a company. But relationships or connections are always needed too.

But when we have expertise or skills that exceed other people, even without a diploma, there will be many companies offering us jobs. Because one of my acquaintances is also like that. He didn't go to high school. But because he has above average expertise in a field. Then he was offered a job by a company directly without having to take part in a selection or anything. But not everyone can be so lucky. And in reality, skills are still very important. And if you add an educational degree then it will be even better.
Same situation here in my country or place but i do believe that this is something a global problem or something that should be in concern that having connections or relationship into those people who are sitting on

top positions is always having that kind of advantage compared into those people who dont have or simply making up some applications plainly compared into those who do apply but having some backer or
someone who do really pushes up their application for them to be interviewed and would be accepted. Its not really that new anymore that there would really be those people who would really be set on priority and
there would really be those people who would really be simply neglect out despite on having that great educational attainment or credentials but somehow if there would really be no other option
or they have lack of manpower or staffs then to those who do have that much better credentials or educational backgrounds would really be always having the advantage.
This is something not a shocking thing anymore here on this society.

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October 04, 2023, 08:17:50 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

It is extremely important not only to memorize all the information that is given at the university, but also to be able to use mindfulness. I know dozens of smart people, scientists, but in fact they have achieved nothing, they do not have cars and their salaries are small. And what's the point of being smart if you're not rich? After all, the family needs to be fed, and not to tell them theories and lectures from books.
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October 04, 2023, 09:59:29 PM
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An academic pursuit sure increases ones ability to earn and broadens their thinking scope to explore other options beyond ones boundaries.
You know academic pursuit could even be on the subject of expansion of ones knowledge on BTC and the cryptocurrencies market or based on cyber security for all things relating to decentralized wallets or systems for those who need to be secure from hackers.
It is way better to pursue academy qualifications in an area where one is more passionate about than in other areas because people are doing so or as directed by anyone who's someone to us.
Perhaps, if we are seeking a better job, this was a way to get a higher position and salary. Sometimes I would say that without a better education background, companies will never let you in and work with them. In fact, even in our country, they consider this academic performance as a metric to get a spot with them. It is something that urges us to go to school and enroll in known universities to gain a huge opportunity to have a job after graduation.
Well, we can say now that education is a huge asset which makes those people who can't afford to send their kids to school become hopeless and choose to live the life that they have now.

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October 04, 2023, 10:50:39 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Education doesn't guarantee job especially when you live in a country with less job. One shouldn't go to school to only acquire certificates but learn various things in school which can be useful in the future. This is why entrepreneur in now being introduced in school especially in country with less job so that people can easily use the knowledge to creat their own business in cases where they can't get employment.

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In today's working world, some mainstream companies still require job applicants to have at least a university degree. Diplomas are mainly seen as a means for employees to advance their careers. However, for an employer, it's not a prerequisite.

Fundamentally, in the professional realm, skills take precedence. A diploma signifies that someone has undergone formal education, but it doesn't guarantee their ability to perform well. Therefore, what's more crucial than a diploma nowadays is one's portfolio.

The more evidence you have of your work, the better companies can assess your abilities without having to rely on a diploma. You just need to put in extra effort to prove that with your portfolio, you are genuinely capable of excelling in your job.

One day in the future, we will witness that those who hold diplomas portfolio are the ones deserving of employment.



such thing only occurring in small startups where they are looking for people with real skill because they need to be efficient, in the big large company hardly i could see those company hiring someone with low education lower than bachelor degree simply because there are too many skilled applicants so filtering based on latest education matters more.
therefore even though many consider college degree to be somewhat useless based on the curicullum they taught you, it doesn't mean its entirely useless.
at least with these degree you gonna get the upperhand to those that don't have.
for me its essential to have degree if someone is really trying to have working career otherwise if its entreprenurship it might not matter, but having degree will still improve your credibility in having business partnership you know.

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October 05, 2023, 01:59:04 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

This is base on individual believes and the career they want to chase, if you comes from a country where Job is hard to get even with those degrees, the best thing to do is to study small acquire those basic knowledge then put them into practice and develop your self first either to look fit somewhere and attach your self or you start up something with that money you could have used to further your education, when you are a bit stable in your finances then you can move on in getting more degrees because you now have were to earn from and it will sustain you until you get a better job with your earned degree.

In some countries acquiring those degree with out any single skill attached to it and you also don’t have a connection of someone who will connect you to a good organizational that you can fit in, you might just end up with those degrees hang on your wall drop without it being used for anything valuable.

Choosing whether to continue your education or not will really depend on a person's personality, there are some people who are able to do both of these things and there are also those who only choose to pursue one field that they like until they earn an income from it. However, I think, without having expertise in the field of education that we have completed, we will not be able to find work with the degree that we have.

There's some people who can really handle the pressure of academic and his job. But whenever you come up in this situation, you will have to sacrifice something like your health, time and stress. From that, by not handling both you decided to choose one like focus on your study but not having an income or focus on your work but your time are focused on work than having a degree. There's nothing wrong on choosing what path do you think would fit on you, cause some people were rather choose survival, but they know that having a degree is a benefit for finding a higher paying jobs which can be good in the future. Don't feel left behind if some of your mates already graduated while you are still working, or the other hand. We all have different paces and situation in life, so just focus on what you think the best for you.
Absolutely, absolutely. Academic and work balancing is work in today's fast-paced society. Very difficult. Some can manage it, others cannot. That's OK. It's okay. Sacrifices? They're inevitable. Health, time, stress - something's got to give, right? However, job or education isn't a one-size-fits-all choice. It's not. Some prioritise survival, while others value a degree. That's fine too

Feeling behind? Don't. Just don't. Every path is unique. Different paces, different situations. It's not a race. It's never. Which path is best for you? You alone can answer that. Remember, whatever you pick is correct for you. Is it?

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October 05, 2023, 12:54:14 PM
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Education doesn't guarantee job especially when you live in a country with less job. One shouldn't go to school to only acquire certificates but learn various things in school which can be useful in the future. This is why entrepreneur in now being introduced in school especially in country with less job so that people can easily use the knowledge to creat their own business in cases where they can't get employment.
In several countries a diploma is only a sign of identification that someone has taken a formal educational path and there is no guarantee that someone who has a high education can get a decent job. When you choose a final diploma, working like someone with a lower diploma will actually make you small in their eyes because people with higher education should be able to produce work for other people. But if the question whether education is enough to earn an income, the answer may not be the same from one person to another.

Education is only a foundation for someone to know a life of character and education is only a place to seek knowledge. When we have knowledge, it will be easy for someone to find a job, but sometimes people are reluctant to do certain jobs because they have high education. In developed and developing countries, the concept of education may be interpreted differently even though its essence same as a field for seeking knowledge.

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not enough. The real fact is that those who have experience do not always come from the academy. They even have special skills such as being able to autodidactically understand the areas they are interested in. I think academics are enough to gather friends, but we have to hone our own skills even without an academy.

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I think that if you graduated from a well-known university and graduated with honors and the course you completed was good, you are at an advantage to be accepted immediately by a company that you will apply to or maybe compete with other companies. Because that's the battle here in our country, then the sport of backing up the applicants is also the battle.

The fight is really unfair. Think about it: even if the degree you took is higher, if you don't have a backer who will help you within the company you will apply to, you will have no fight because the one with a backer will be prioritized, even if the one who will be admitted is
Graduating with a good grade and from a good course is of an advantage of securing a better job but with all these it is still not a guarantee of getting desired job, but I think all these depends on the country we found ourselves. Like in some countries Graduating with good grades is the easiest way of getting a job. But it is important for people not to take only their degree as the only option to get a job,  their should be an alternative like having a skill.
 
Getting a good grade is very important that anybody must fight for to secure a job because no one knows when opportunity will knock on the door.

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October 05, 2023, 05:50:53 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
Life is about trade. It doesn't matter how many books you read, if you can't use that knowledge to create something that you will be able to sell, then you will still remain jobless and poor. That's why people study in universities and then are either hired and paid low salary or are jobless because of the oversaturation of the market and no necessity of new wave of educated people.

The only way for you to increase your income is to increase your charisma, communication skills, establish a good network of high class people and be good at sales & marketing. You have to market yourself so well to be able to sell expensively, salt bae is a good example. Degrees only help in some cases.

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October 05, 2023, 07:45:22 PM
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not enough. The real fact is that those who have experience do not always come from the academy. They even have special skills such as being able to autodidactically understand the areas they are interested in. I think academics are enough to gather friends, but we have to hone our own skills even without an academy.
Well both of these things are equally important. Both academic degrees and personal skills. Just having a high academic degree without having good achievements and even only having average skills will of course not help much in finding a job though. Because there are lots of other people who will have the same average skills as us. To increase your chances of getting a job and income, both are needed and not just one. Especially regarding skills that actually need to be paid more attention. Because if we have above average skills then we won't be the ones looking for work but many will come to us and offer us work.

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Being educated and earning higher degrees is not a bad idea. Just like what you said your country lacks employment. For example if I find myself in a country where there is no value for graduates I will stop attening  higher degrees and I will go for what brings more money like acquiring skills and being productive, for example the world is now a developed world, not everything that brings money requires higher degree. But in some countries the level of employment is very high so you see people upgrading their education status like in some advance countries pays heavily for professional courses such as nursing, medicine, law. So if I find myself in that country I will as well upgrade my education status.
So the simple truth is anything that brings money do it.

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not enough. The real fact is that those who have experience do not always come from the academy. They even have special skills such as being able to autodidactically understand the areas they are interested in. I think academics are enough to gather friends, but we have to hone our own skills even without an academy.
Well both of these things are equally important. Both academic degrees and personal skills. Just having a high academic degree without having good achievements and even only having average skills will of course not help much in finding a job though. Because there are lots of other people who will have the same average skills as us. To increase your chances of getting a job and income, both are needed and not just one. Especially regarding skills that actually need to be paid more attention. Because if we have above average skills then we won't be the ones looking for work but many will come to us and offer us work.
Correct, experience is necessary, but if someone doesn't hire you, then how do you gain experience? Usually, you need a degree to prove that you have knowledge about a subject. Although it's not always true, the general rule applies. That may not be the case with IT and technology-related work, because you can easily prove your worth by showing a potential employer your portfolio and previous work you've done, even as academic projects or practice ones. For instance, a web developer can present a few examples of his work, as can a programmer.

Other professions can't be presented with hands-on work to prove that you're knowledgeable enough, such as financial or managerial work. I don't believe that degrees are always necessary, but I do believe that they're a strong stepping stone.

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October 06, 2023, 11:42:39 PM
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Being educated and earning higher degrees is not a bad idea. Just like what you said your country lacks employment. For example if I find myself in a country where there is no value for graduates I will stop attening  higher degrees and I will go for what brings more money like acquiring skills and being productive, for example the world is now a developed world, not everything that brings money requires higher degree. But in some countries the level of employment is very high so you see people upgrading their education status like in some advance countries pays heavily for professional courses such as nursing, medicine, law. So if I find myself in that country I will as well upgrade my education status.
So the simple truth is anything that brings money do it.

thats true, getting degree and paying for it just to get edge on some jobs is worth it honestly, but i always think that getting into university for med school or something like that including law school are the ones that worth more than the other degree since its practical, you can only learn such thing from there and the earning and income after you graduated also high.
the other degree that can be obtained by means of following online course might be worth only by doing it online but the credibility sometime being doubted by employer.
therefore whatever is better for you just do it, even better if you can be sure that you will be earning high income after getting the degree.

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October 06, 2023, 11:45:07 PM
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not enough. The real fact is that those who have experience do not always come from the academy. They even have special skills such as being able to autodidactically understand the areas they are interested in. I think academics are enough to gather friends, but we have to hone our own skills even without an academy.
That's an exception and will depend to the employer. But what's sad on these days is that, we will never know from the company if they prefer someone with experience or higher degree. Maybe for them to have a low ball offer to their employees, they'll take those that don't have much academic achievement. And that's what they're trying to do and avoid those with such scholastic numbers because it tells how hard working they are a student but regardless of that, schools and offices are different from each other and someone's working ethic might change over time due to the environment of the company.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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Any professor I've met is earning enough to live comfortably, but in no way shape or form enough to be rewarded properly for the amount and quality of work they do.

There's ton of people working industry and corporate jobs that are far less advanced than university professors that earn 10x as much. If you want to teach at a university you just must love what you do. There's no other way to be involved in academia. If you're in it for the money you're a fool. Even with a PhD you'd be earning much more working an industry job, even doing less serious and not as demanding research.

Professors also take a ton of work outside of what they're paid for. Grading assignments, creating curriculum, participating in conferences, taking part in committees to decide on important matters about the university as mandated by bureaucratic rules, helping students with their research and much much more... It's a very hard and demanding job mentally.

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Well, degrees might not be that important but literacy and some skills are essential things to have in order to at least be able to make use of opportunities available around you. There is a difference between knowledge and education, a lot of people are focused on getting high grades without being able to gather any knowledge regarding anything in the world, even the subjects that they are studying because they are just memorizing things to get more marks and aren't learning anything, I believe a degree gotten that way is totally useless.

However, if someone is literate and they can manage to learn things and develop some skills, they are surely going to get a good job somewhere, and the most important thing is that they can make use of an opportunity that they might get which an illiterate person cannot do, so literacy and knowledge are the most important things, in my opinion.

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October 10, 2023, 04:07:07 AM
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Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
At least that is very helpful and we can see how many people who hold good positions in companies or in government are those who have a high level of education.
If you live in a country where job opportunities are very minimal but have a good level of education, you will have the opportunity to become a skilled worker outside your country and this is what I see happening a lot in my country, so opportunities for graduates are more wide open, not only in their country. but also abroad.

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October 10, 2023, 10:03:14 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.


I don't think this has any influence, everyone hopes to earn a large income by continuing to improve their education, but they forget that the world of work and business requires more skills than an educational degree, and the fact that happens is that many people have a history of low education but can be successful become entrepreneurs.


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October 10, 2023, 10:32:41 AM
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I don't think this has any influence, everyone hopes to earn a large income by continuing to improve their education, but they forget that the world of work and business requires more skills than an educational degree, and the fact that happens is that many people have a history of low education but can be successful become entrepreneurs.

It all actually depends on the place, mate, because the business world as it is run by most people with a low level of education is a world that basically does not look at the level of education. But the business world really looks more at the skills that each person has to run the business so that matters related to education will always be ignored by businesses that do not require special education.

However, it will be different for those who want to work in government offices, where each person must have special education, although they must also have some expertise in their own field. But basically they really have to have a certain level of education in order to be selected and placed in the field they are skilled at in a government office, meaning it all depends on the place too. Because not all workplaces require a certain level of education, and vice versa, there are also places that require education at a certain level.
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October 10, 2023, 10:52:05 AM
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not enough. The real fact is that those who have experience do not always come from the academy. They even have special skills such as being able to autodidactically understand the areas they are interested in. I think academics are enough to gather friends, but we have to hone our own skills even without an academy.
Well both of these things are equally important. Both academic degrees and personal skills. Just having a high academic degree without having good achievements and even only having average skills will of course not help much in finding a job though. Because there are lots of other people who will have the same average skills as us. To increase your chances of getting a job and income, both are needed and not just one. Especially regarding skills that actually need to be paid more attention. Because if we have above average skills then we won't be the ones looking for work but many will come to us and offer us work.
I agree that both are equally important. And both are must-haves. But from my point of view, there is actually one thing that should be prioritized, namely honing skills or developing individual skills that we can excel in in the field of work that we might want.

Sharpening skills can start from things that are part of our hobbies. Or something that makes us happy to do. Because if we have skills that other people don't have, then I'm quite sure that even without graduating from a high academic degree, we will still receive lots of job offers.

Even now, having expertise in the field of programming is very much needed in government. So that someone who is an expert in this field and exceeds other people's abilities will definitely be appreciated for their expertise. But having both is much better (academics and skills)
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I don't think this has any influence, everyone hopes to earn a large income by continuing to improve their education, but they forget that the world of work and business requires more skills than an educational degree, and the fact that happens is that many people have a history of low education but can be successful become entrepreneurs.
The technique is to increase educational backgrounds and degrees through continuous studies and masterals and even doctorate programs.
But there are programs that are looking for more experience than of these certifications. However with certifications, that only proves that you're competent and has got the fundamentals and foundation knowledge of the actual skillset you're learning.


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The technique is to increase educational backgrounds and degrees through continuous studies and masterals and even doctorate programs.
But there are programs that are looking for more experience than of these certifications. However with certifications, that only proves that you're competent and has got the fundamentals and foundation knowledge of the actual skillset you're learning.

I doubt there are that many job positions looking for more qualifications than a doctorate - that basically proves you are an expert in that field.

Besides, academic success is not required to get a good income, you can get by without it - look at all of these Silicon Valley founders for example with a vision and a plan to act on it.

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The technique is to increase educational backgrounds and degrees through continuous studies and masterals and even doctorate programs.
But there are programs that are looking for more experience than of these certifications. However with certifications, that only proves that you're competent and has got the fundamentals and foundation knowledge of the actual skillset you're learning.
I doubt there are that many job positions looking for more qualifications than a doctorate - that basically proves you are an expert in that field.

Besides, academic success is not required to get a good income, you can get by without it - look at all of these Silicon Valley founders for example with a vision and a plan to act on it.
It's true about not requiring academic success to have more income, it's more of grit, resourcefulness and hustle.
While having that doctorate or masteral proves that you're good academically and that's a proof that you've finished that. There are some companies that are looking for those for their higher positions.


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The technique is to increase educational backgrounds and degrees through continuous studies and masterals and even doctorate programs.
But there are programs that are looking for more experience than of these certifications. However with certifications, that only proves that you're competent and has got the fundamentals and foundation knowledge of the actual skillset you're learning.
I doubt there are that many job positions looking for more qualifications than a doctorate - that basically proves you are an expert in that field.

Besides, academic success is not required to get a good income, you can get by without it - look at all of these Silicon Valley founders for example with a vision and a plan to act on it.
It's true about not requiring academic success to have more income, it's more of grit, resourcefulness and hustle.
While having that doctorate or masteral proves that you're good academically and that's a proof that you've finished that. There are some companies that are looking for those for their higher positions.
An educational degree is proof that someone has the ability and in my opinion it is quite influential in getting a job and also the relationships that academics have will be better than others so they have a greater chance of getting a decent job to increase their educational income.
So in my opinion, higher education has quite a big influence on the income you will get, and one thing we need to remember is that we cannot compare several people without successful education, we have to be realistic in looking at the average number for a conclusion.

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The technique is to increase educational backgrounds and degrees through continuous studies and masterals and even doctorate programs.
But there are programs that are looking for more experience than of these certifications. However with certifications, that only proves that you're competent and has got the fundamentals and foundation knowledge of the actual skillset you're learning.

I doubt there are that many job positions looking for more qualifications than a doctorate - that basically proves you are an expert in that field.

Besides, academic success is not required to get a good income, you can get by without it - look at all of these Silicon Valley founders for example with a vision and a plan to act on it.
I agree with you, academic success is not required but is it a good background and foundation? Absolutely. Academic success gives individuals the foundation they need to have the confidence to apply or venture to a field they are interested in. We have to remember that the world, whenever we look at it, is full of opportunities that are not only laid out for us but for anyone seeking to improve and be successful in life; hence, competition is constant. Academic success allows us to have a good advantage in such competitions. For example, in businesses, an individual who has a formal educational background on the product or services they are offering is more likely to have more clients than those who don't as clients have the confidence to rely on those who are able to attain formal educations than those who do not. As cruel and unfair as it is, that's how more scenarios go.

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The technique is to increase educational backgrounds and degrees through continuous studies and masterals and even doctorate programs.
But there are programs that are looking for more experience than of these certifications. However with certifications, that only proves that you're competent and has got the fundamentals and foundation knowledge of the actual skillset you're learning.

I doubt there are that many job positions looking for more qualifications than a doctorate - that basically proves you are an expert in that field.

Besides, academic success is not required to get a good income, you can get by without it - look at all of these Silicon Valley founders for example with a vision and a plan to act on it.
I agree with you, academic success is not required but is it a good background and foundation? Absolutely. Academic success gives individuals the foundation they need to have the confidence to apply or venture to a field they are interested in. We have to remember that the world, whenever we look at it, is full of opportunities that are not only laid out for us but for anyone seeking to improve and be successful in life; hence, competition is constant. Academic success allows us to have a good advantage in such competitions. For example, in businesses, an individual who has a formal educational background on the product or services they are offering is more likely to have more clients than those who don't as clients have the confidence to rely on those who are able to attain formal educations than those who do not. As cruel and unfair as it is, that's how more scenarios go.
You would really be having an edge compared into other people on which it would really be that relevant that you would really be needing to have at least that educational background which we do know that it is already that a basic requirement when you do apply for a job physically and since that competition is really that high or something that we can really say that its not really that easy to get accepted and we do all know that having that higher educational qualification would really be having that advantage compared into those people who have none. Although it isnt really that a solid indication that we would really be that getting that job once we do apply. Always consider out on the competition out there which you arent the only one who do look for such job. Pursuing another set of course? Its up to you since we are really that in
control of our times and with the actions  that should be made. If you are pusuing multiple courses or degree then its up to your choice.

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It's true about not requiring academic success to have more income, it's more of grit, resourcefulness and hustle.
While having that doctorate or masteral proves that you're good academically and that's a proof that you've finished that. There are some companies that are looking for those for their higher positions.
An educational degree is proof that someone has the ability and in my opinion it is quite influential in getting a job and also the relationships that academics have will be better than others so they have a greater chance of getting a decent job to increase their educational income.
So in my opinion, higher education has quite a big influence on the income you will get, and one thing we need to remember is that we cannot compare several people without successful education, we have to be realistic in looking at the average number for a conclusion.
There's a balance on these things while having no degree or any higher of that and if someone who's in that situation is having more income, that person was built through time and tested by his experience.
While on the other side of having a degree and other academic achievements, that's actually a good start to build a career and being hired is giving the higher chance because of it.


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Academic pursuits is enough to get high income if you are doing it internationally. Academics who collaborate with the international colleagues from all over the world participating in several intercultural, cross-cultural, and interdisciplinary studies that have received huge funding from the government agencies, research bodies, individuals and even non-governmental organisations can get incomes from this in addition to their salaries from their local institution.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

  Academic achievement can lead to higher earnings later in life. Several studies proves that individuals with higher levels of academic achievement tend to earn more money later in life. Therefore, the individual putting in a lot of work and tons of focus on academics needs to do so in order to get a good job and earn a good income when they enter the workforce.

 With all this being said, it's important for academic achievements but also more important to acquire the skills/ experience needed to effectively work and standout from the rest. Academic pursuits simply provides one with the knowledge and skills one can use to live a successful life. As the old saying goes... knowledge is wealth.

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I agree with you, academic success is not required but is it a good background and foundation? Absolutely. Academic success gives individuals the foundation they need to have the confidence to apply or venture to a field they are interested in. We have to remember that the world, whenever we look at it, is full of opportunities that are not only laid out for us but for anyone seeking to improve and be successful in life; hence, competition is constant. Academic success allows us to have a good advantage in such competitions. For example, in businesses, an individual who has a formal educational background on the product or services they are offering is more likely to have more clients than those who don't as clients have the confidence to rely on those who are able to attain formal educations than those who do not. As cruel and unfair as it is, that's how more scenarios go.
It seems that besides the academic qualifications, large companies have another primary focus when considering someone for collaboration or employment. The essential foundation underlying all requirements for advancing one's career is honesty. We all must be capable of working with integrity to thrive within a company. Foolishness can be remedied through learning, but dishonesty is a trait that's challenging to eradicate. The seeds of a company's downfall often lie in the small lies told by those within it.

Academic credentials are undoubtedly important, but to secure a good job or career, it's not solely about academics. This doesn't diminish the accomplishments of those who have completed their university degrees. A diploma is crucial in widening the doorway to success even further. Educated individuals are, in fact, still in demand, even if their education doesn't always align with the job they're applying for. This is because I once encountered an expert in home and plumbing repairs who ran a successful large-scale business, despite holding a degree in advertising.
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I agree with you, academic success is not required but is it a good background and foundation? Absolutely. Academic success gives individuals the foundation they need to have the confidence to apply or venture to a field they are interested in. We have to remember that the world, whenever we look at it, is full of opportunities that are not only laid out for us but for anyone seeking to improve and be successful in life; hence, competition is constant. Academic success allows us to have a good advantage in such competitions. For example, in businesses, an individual who has a formal educational background on the product or services they are offering is more likely to have more clients than those who don't as clients have the confidence to rely on those who are able to attain formal educations than those who do not. As cruel and unfair as it is, that's how more scenarios go.
It seems that besides the academic qualifications, large companies have another primary focus when considering someone for collaboration or employment. The essential foundation underlying all requirements for advancing one's career is honesty. We all must be capable of working with integrity to thrive within a company. Foolishness can be remedied through learning, but dishonesty is a trait that's challenging to eradicate. The seeds of a company's downfall often lie in the small lies told by those within it.

Academic credentials are undoubtedly important, but to secure a good job or career, it's not solely about academics. This doesn't diminish the accomplishments of those who have completed their university degrees. A diploma is crucial in widening the doorway to success even further. Educated individuals are, in fact, still in demand, even if their education doesn't always align with the job they're applying for. This is because I once encountered an expert in home and plumbing repairs who ran a successful large-scale business, despite holding a degree in advertising.
Academic credentials are important in the modern economy, but they are not the only requirement. Integrity and honesty? They are priceless. In the realm of commerce, trust is crucial, particularly in the quickly changing context of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. How come? Because trust in people becomes even more important in a decentralized system like Bitcoin. Insincerity? It resembles a time bomb that is about to detonate

Academic credentials do matter, yes. They provide you a basis, open doors, and opportunity. However, isn't it interesting that there are instances in which a degree you possess has no bearing on your line of work? similar to the plumbing specialist you described who has a degree in advertising. It is evidence of the transferability of skills and the capacity for thought, adaptation, and evolution that education, in whatever form, bestows. Therefore, even though a degree has value, aren't honesty and flexibility even more important in the modern world?

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
I don't think this has any influence, everyone hopes to earn a large income by continuing to improve their education, but they forget that the world of work and business requires more skills than an educational degree, and the fact that happens is that many people have a history of low education but can be successful become entrepreneurs.
Although there is no doubt about what you say that a person with good skills can become a successful entrepreneur that doesn't really work for everyone. If every single person in the world with some skills could achieve success, I believe the percentage of successful people would be way higher than it is today because the world is full of skilled people but only a few get the stage and the opportunity to actually showcase their abilities and capabilities.

The rest have to go with the traditional way, earning an educational degree and trying to look for the best job for their niche. A lot of people say that degrees don't matter, all you need is knowledge, skills, and experience, I only partly agree with that, because a person who is the sole breadwinner for their family can't just keep trying to get success through their skills and they eventually have to find a way to at least earn some money to survive.
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Academic credentials are important in the modern economy, but they are not the only requirement. Integrity and honesty? They are priceless. In the realm of commerce, trust is crucial, particularly in the quickly changing context of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. How come? Because trust in people becomes even more important in a decentralized system like Bitcoin. Insincerity? It resembles a time bomb that is about to detonate

Academic credentials do matter, yes. They provide you a basis, open doors, and opportunity. However, isn't it interesting that there are instances in which a degree you possess has no bearing on your line of work? similar to the plumbing specialist you described who has a degree in advertising. It is evidence of the transferability of skills and the capacity for thought, adaptation, and evolution that education, in whatever form, bestows. Therefore, even though a degree has value, aren't honesty and flexibility even more important in the modern world?
honesty and flexibility goes both ways, and its indeed important, but not so much for someone that already has assigned task and jobs as well as the specified target, in working environment its nothing new that its full of competition, being too pushover you will get taken advantage of, being too honest you will get many enemy, its just it is.
academic is like the gateway, and the ability to adapt within working environment is what could helps you work for long.
but still without academic pursues, they can't even get into the job so thats really what required first, then the other can come after.

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The rest have to go with the traditional way, earning an educational degree and trying to look for the best job for their niche. A lot of people say that degrees don't matter, all you need is knowledge, skills, and experience, I only partly agree with that, because a person who is the sole breadwinner for their family can't just keep trying to get success through their skills and they eventually have to find a way to at least earn some money to survive.
Many job vacancies have academic requirements to be able to apply to government agencies or private/individual job vacancies. The government recruited 100 thousand people for teacher needs from non-permanent teacher status. So without having an academic degree, we have no chance of applying for government job vacancies. However, those who have skills in certain jobs will open a business according to their respective skills, in the technological era it is easier to promote products with one click, the presence of marketplace applications and TikTok shops has greatly supported business people around the world, the level of demand for ordering goods online has increased and even online stores can collect around $100k for one day of ordering goods.

So whether or not you have an academic degree depends on each individual's opinion, there are those who hope to get a job from the government with a guaranteed monthly salary and pension, but those who don't have an academic degree hope to become big entrepreneurs.

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The rest have to go with the traditional way, earning an educational degree and trying to look for the best job for their niche. A lot of people say that degrees don't matter, all you need is knowledge, skills, and experience, I only partly agree with that, because a person who is the sole breadwinner for their family can't just keep trying to get success through their skills and they eventually have to find a way to at least earn some money to survive.
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So whether or not you have an academic degree depends on each individual's opinion, there are those who hope to get a job from the government with a guaranteed monthly salary and pension, but those who don't have an academic degree hope to become big entrepreneurs.

Your academy degree doesn't guarantee a job especially with the government in some countries. That means getting degree for job depends on the country you leave. In Nigeria,due to corruption, a man with no degree that can speak English can be offer a government job while graduate with degree may not get any.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Getting a degree doesn’t mean that you should be waiting for a job, but implementing what you study means that when you go for a course after graduation, you will obtain your degree, so with that, you can use that degree to implement skills that will help you to have money and also employment. But when you depend on the fact that your degree will give you a good-earning job, you will waste your time waiting for nothing because in some countries they have the issue of lack of unemployment while in others they have adequate employment, so based on what you write in your country, you have unemployment issues, so it is left for you to study, obtain your degree, and implement ways to earn money and create employment for others in your country.

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Your academy degree doesn't guarantee a job especially with the government in some countries. That means getting degree for job depends on the country you leave. In Nigeria,due to corruption, a man with no degree that can speak English can be offer a government job while graduate with degree may not get any.

That remind of countless ghost workers that have occupied the government houses, it's embarrassing and disgracing that a non- certificate liver will be included in pay roll while the people that goes to school have nothing to rely on. They will not included their family members that are secondary school leavers while the main students that attend qualified university with the degree have nothing, how is the government going to progress?

Well, education is very important for the society, if not for anything, it will reduce the rate of illiterates and help to expose many people to education, it helps you get basic understanding of life as well but not a requirement to be successful in life.

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The rest have to go with the traditional way, earning an educational degree and trying to look for the best job for their niche. A lot of people say that degrees don't matter, all you need is knowledge, skills, and experience, I only partly agree with that, because a person who is the sole breadwinner for their family can't just keep trying to get success through their skills and they eventually have to find a way to at least earn some money to survive.
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So whether or not you have an academic degree depends on each individual's opinion, there are those who hope to get a job from the government with a guaranteed monthly salary and pension, but those who don't have an academic degree hope to become big entrepreneurs.

Your academy degree doesn't guarantee a job especially with the government in some countries. That means getting degree for job depends on the country you leave. In Nigeria,due to corruption, a man with no degree that can speak English can be offer a government job while graduate with degree may not get any.
Things are always awkward in insane countries, Nigeria is unfortunately one of them where things are upside down. Regardless, education is good, it will always give you leverage irrespective of how you want to look at it. We should not forget the fact that luck also plays its way out in securing a job, which is why people with fewer qualifications could secure a better job than people who are more qualified. Other players here are politics and connection, this is happening so well in countries, the more you know people or are politically exposed, the better the chance you have, including anyone close to you to get job benefits.

However, I advise anyone living in a country like Nigeria to always have plan B, the leaders are corrupt and clueless. So, you fight for your life, or else, you waste it believing in a white-collar job.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Getting a degree doesn’t mean that you should be waiting for a job, but implementing what you study means that when you go for a course after graduation, you will obtain your degree, so with that, you can use that degree to implement skills that will help you to have money and also employment. But when you depend on the fact that your degree will give you a good-earning job, you will waste your time waiting for nothing because in some countries they have the issue of lack of unemployment while in others they have adequate employment, so based on what you write in your country, you have unemployment issues, so it is left for you to study, obtain your degree, and implement ways to earn money and create employment for others in your country.
I fail to see your point here. It is a given that attaining a degree doesn't guarantee money. There are other factors that needs to be considered and by not taking a step and acting out then whatever degree an individual have it really wouldn't amount to anything. No matter what the issue of employment is in a country it is always advisable for a person to get a degree due to the competence that drives every industry and by having a degree it gives a person an advantage against other competitors. Moreover, I don't get your last point, you want someone to get a degree and not focus on working but to make money so they can create job for others? Before that I'm sure people will focus more on getting a degree, finding a stable source of income and attain financial stability before they even think of providing for others.

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The rest have to go with the traditional way, earning an educational degree and trying to look for the best job for their niche. A lot of people say that degrees don't matter, all you need is knowledge, skills, and experience, I only partly agree with that, because a person who is the sole breadwinner for their family can't just keep trying to get success through their skills and they eventually have to find a way to at least earn some money to survive.

Both degree and skill are for the purpose of being able to financially take care of yourself and family but that is depending on how you are able to plan yourself. It is not only through education that a breadwinner can survive but even through skills. Above all to diversify your source of income is ultimate. For example whether you have a guarantee job in government or you are someone who works with his acquired skill, to be successful you need to spread your net to other areas other than just one source of income.

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The rest have to go with the traditional way, earning an educational degree and trying to look for the best job for their niche. A lot of people say that degrees don't matter, all you need is knowledge, skills, and experience, I only partly agree with that, because a person who is the sole breadwinner for their family can't just keep trying to get success through their skills and they eventually have to find a way to at least earn some money to survive.

Both degree and skill are for the purpose of being able to financially take care of yourself and family but that is depending on how you are able to plan yourself. It is not only through education that a breadwinner can survive but even through skills. Above all to diversify your source of income is ultimate. For example whether you have a guarantee job in government or you are someone who works with his acquired skill, to be successful you need to spread your net to other areas other than just one source of income.
Life can't be predicted and no one knows where financial opportunities will be coming from , it is just better to get a degree and a good skill and be waiting which one of these can bring opportunities because sometimes one might have the degree but nothing better  is coming from that angle but where their are opportunities is from skill.  For one to succeed in life it is better to get ready to grab opportunities by getting a degree and skill, this two tools are very important in achieving financial success in life.

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There is no doubt that academic pursuit is enough to get a job.  Most of the average-paying job requires an academic degree, so people who fail to get a degree don't have a chance to get into this kind of job and most of them often land on jobs that pay less, this is based on the system of my country.  Academic degree holders have a higher chance to get a high-paying job than the skilled but don't have an academic degree.  Most managers and supervisors position need an academic degree plus a master's degree regardless if they have the skill or not.


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October 13, 2023, 10:44:07 PM
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Life can't be predicted and no one knows where financial opportunities will be coming from , it is just better to get a degree and a good skill and be waiting which one of these can bring opportunities because sometimes one might have the degree but nothing better  is coming from that angle but where their are opportunities is from skill.  For one to succeed in life it is better to get ready to grab opportunities by getting a degree and skill, this two tools are very important in achieving financial success in life.
Even though there is indeed a condition where something like this cannot be predicted because it can come suddenly, but in other conditions we must also realize that to survive and welcome a better life in terms of financial conditions and our comfort in surviving it must start from several things and education (academic degrees) and skills must still be honed and deepened because these are supporting factors and are very important to have.
for academic degrees maybe this is not everyone can get it but for skills as long as we want to try then it can be obtained with a note that we are serious in doing it.
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There is no doubt that academic pursuit is enough to get a job.  Most of the average-paying job requires an academic degree, so people who fail to get a degree don't have a chance to get into this kind of job and most of them often land on jobs that pay less, this is based on the system of my country.  Academic degree holders have a higher chance to get a high-paying job than the skilled but don't have an academic degree.  Most managers and supervisors position need an academic degree plus a master's degree regardless if they have the skill or not.


I also heard that the same fact happened in several areas in my country. But in my current area, apart from an academic degree, there are other things that we must have in order to be easily accepted into a job. Namely having connections to insiders. Even with a high academic degree, it will not be easy for us to be accepted into a company if we do not have connections to insiders.

But people who don't have inside connections can also be accepted for work easily, namely with money. Well this is quite a strange thing. We look for work to earn money. but I have seen many facts that to get a job we have to pay someone to help us to get hired. But I don't like that. In essence, it's like fishing for money with money.
It's ridiculous but I think this is common knowledge.

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There is no doubt that academic pursuit is enough to get a job.  Most of the average-paying job requires an academic degree, so people who fail to get a degree don't have a chance to get into this kind of job and most of them often land on jobs that pay less, this is based on the system of my country.  Academic degree holders have a higher chance to get a high-paying job than the skilled but don't have an academic degree.  Most managers and supervisors position need an academic degree plus a master's degree regardless if they have the skill or not.


I also heard that the same fact happened in several areas in my country. But in my current area, apart from an academic degree, there are other things that we must have in order to be easily accepted into a job. Namely having connections to insiders. Even with a high academic degree, it will not be easy for us to be accepted into a company if we do not have connections to insiders.

But people who don't have inside connections can also be accepted for work easily, namely with money. Well this is quite a strange thing. We look for work to earn money. but I have seen many facts that to get a job we have to pay someone to help us to get hired. But I don't like that. In essence, it's like fishing for money with money.
It's ridiculous but I think this is common knowledge.

That is one of the problem that fresh graduates facing, some of the jobs might required degree but some achieved it thru connections by recommending them despite the fact that they do not meet the expectation of the role in the job. And it's true some would ask for money with saying that "we would immediately process it" that's how hard to find a job. I don't know I think it's fine for me? Cause I know for sure they wouldn't last long in that role cause they've only attained it by just having connections and paying someone, so when the company have a high expectation from them, they won't even meet that for sure. In short, the best thing is to process it right and let them find your potential but yeah it's hard with the numbers of unemployed people.

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November 03, 2023, 10:17:51 AM
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I think that if you graduated from a well-known university and graduated with honors and the course you completed was good, you are at an advantage to be accepted immediately by a company that you will apply to or maybe compete with other companies. Because that's the battle here in our country, then the sport of backing up the applicants is also the battle.

The fight is really unfair. Think about it: even if the degree you took is higher, if you don't have a backer who will help you within the company you will apply to, you will have no fight because the one with a backer will be prioritized, even if the one who will be admitted is
Graduating with a good grade and from a good course is of an advantage of securing a better job but with all these it is still not a guarantee of getting desired job, but I think all these depends on the country we found ourselves. Like in some countries Graduating with good grades is the easiest way of getting a job. But it is important for people not to take only their degree as the only option to get a job,  their should be an alternative like having a skill.
 
Getting a good grade is very important that anybody must fight for to secure a job because no one knows when opportunity will knock on the door.

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November 03, 2023, 10:36:37 AM
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There is no doubt that academic pursuit is enough to get a job.  Most of the average-paying job requires an academic degree, so people who fail to get a degree don't have a chance to get into this kind of job and most of them often land on jobs that pay less, this is based on the system of my country.  Academic degree holders have a higher chance to get a high-paying job than the skilled but don't have an academic degree.  Most managers and supervisors position need an academic degree plus a master's degree regardless if they have the skill or not.


I also heard that the same fact happened in several areas in my country. But in my current area, apart from an academic degree, there are other things that we must have in order to be easily accepted into a job. Namely having connections to insiders. Even with a high academic degree, it will not be easy for us to be accepted into a company if we do not have connections to insiders.

But people who don't have inside connections can also be accepted for work easily, namely with money. Well this is quite a strange thing. We look for work to earn money. but I have seen many facts that to get a job we have to pay someone to help us to get hired. But I don't like that. In essence, it's like fishing for money with money.
It's ridiculous but I think this is common knowledge.

That is one of the problem that fresh graduates facing, some of the jobs might required degree but some achieved it thru connections by recommending them despite the fact that they do not meet the expectation of the role in the job. And it's true some would ask for money with saying that "we would immediately process it" that's how hard to find a job. I don't know I think it's fine for me? Cause I know for sure they wouldn't last long in that role cause they've only attained it by just having connections and paying someone, so when the company have a high expectation from them, they won't even meet that for sure. In short, the best thing is to process it right and let them find your potential but yeah it's hard with the numbers of unemployed people.
But you are right that those who enter a job not because of their abilities or skills but because they only rely on insider connections and money, then in the end sometimes they will not be able to last long in that job. Because still forcing ourselves in a field that is not our expertise is not easy. Especially large companies that really need people who really have expertise in certain fields that the company needs. So never give up for those of us who don't have insider connections or anything like that. enough for us to continue to hone our skills and expertise. Because if we can have skills beyond other people then we won't be the ones looking for work but there will be jobs coming our way.

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November 03, 2023, 11:12:43 AM
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I think that the main focus of getting degrees should be to acquire more knowledge to make quality impact and contributions that will be beneficial to the society. Although having in mind to earn more income from the degrees that will guarantee the holder a better financial future is good, but it should not be the primary reason for acquiring the degrees. I say this because to really make money someone needs to think like a business person, because an illiterate with a natural zeal and wisdom to make money, can make it and employ graduates with all the degrees to work for them. There is a tribe in my country, that is known to have very successful people in business, but most of these people are not educated, but they are very wise when it comes to making money.

The rate at which people are acquiring more degrees are not the way they're getting job offers, because it seems that demand for jobs now is greater than the supply of the jobs. Every year millions of fresh graduates are entering the labour market to join others that have graduated before them to compete for jobs that are scarce. The more you're getting more degrees, others are getting higher degrees to compete for available job offers, especially in developing countries.  






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November 03, 2023, 12:19:32 PM
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The problem is I feel a lot of people in these kinds of region misunderstand the reason for a formal and higher education.
An education to me is not to give you a job. I believe it's to broaden your mind and expose you to a lot of things.
It's common knowledge that there are no jobs so even the few jobs available, people who have access to them gatekeep them for their friends and families. We've heard of instances where they sell slots to government jobs.
You get an education to acquire knowledge, it is through the knowledge you have acquired that you can get a job or something useful for yourself.

But the thing is, you stand very little chance of getting a job if you don't have a degree. A degree gives you a chance, no matter how small it may be, at getting a job. So these people who get these degrees, aside from acquiring more knowledge also stand a better chance at getting a job.

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I think that the main focus of getting degrees should be to acquire more knowledge to make quality impact and contributions that will be beneficial to the society. Although having in mind to earn more income from the degrees that will guarantee the holder a better financial future is good, but it should not be the primary reason for acquiring the degrees. I say this because to really make money someone needs to think like a business person, because an illiterate with a natural zeal and wisdom to make money, can make it and employ graduates with all the degrees to work for them. There is a tribe in my country, that is known to have very successful people in business, but most of these people are not educated, but they are very wise when it comes to making money.
Those who already have a certain educational degree with highly specialized knowledge in their field will of course find it easier to get a job with an appropriate salary, but this person must still be called a worker because he is not the boss of the place where he works. Meanwhile, people with a not very high level of education, however, are able to open a business to employ educated people in it because that person has the capital to do that. So he can immediately become a boss through the money he has without having to return to being a worker at his own place even though in the past he was also a worker at someone else's place.

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The rate at which people are acquiring more degrees are not the way they're getting job offers, because it seems that demand for jobs now is greater than the supply of the jobs. Every year millions of fresh graduates are entering the labour market to join others that have graduated before them to compete for jobs that are scarce. The more you're getting more degrees, others are getting higher degrees to compete for available job offers, especially in developing countries.  
In developing countries, there are also very many college graduates who move to other countries to look for work because there are very limited job vacancies in their own country and I see this very often in my country where every year there are always people who go abroad to looking for work after completing their education at a particular college. This is also caused by other factors such as the recruitment of workers who are related to fraternities, so that competition in terms of certain skills is no longer so visible at this time even though in other countries they still prioritize certain skills and levels of education when companies create recruitment to get new workers.
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But you are right that those who enter a job not because of their abilities or skills but because they only rely on insider connections and money, then in the end sometimes they will not be able to last long in that job. Because still forcing ourselves in a field that is not our expertise is not easy. Especially large companies that really need people who really have expertise in certain fields that the company needs. So never give up for those of us who don't have insider connections or anything like that. enough for us to continue to hone our skills and expertise. Because if we can have skills beyond other people then we won't be the ones looking for work but there will be jobs coming our way.
I agree that there are many capable people who can learn many professions, even without the proper experience, but the problem is that you most likely will not be hired without the necessary knowledge, or experience in working in a similar job. Therefore, in order to be hired for a job without experience, you need connections with the right people, and I often see that experience is also necessary, even if you have education but no experience, this can also become a problem.
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There is no doubt that academic pursuit is enough to get a job.  Most of the average-paying job requires an academic degree, so people who fail to get a degree don't have a chance to get into this kind of job and most of them often land on jobs that pay less, this is based on the system of my country.  Academic degree holders have a higher chance to get a high-paying job than the skilled but don't have an academic degree.  Most managers and supervisors position need an academic degree plus a master's degree regardless if they have the skill or not.


I also heard that the same fact happened in several areas in my country. But in my current area, apart from an academic degree, there are other things that we must have in order to be easily accepted into a job. Namely having connections to insiders. Even with a high academic degree, it will not be easy for us to be accepted into a company if we do not have connections to insiders.

But people who don't have inside connections can also be accepted for work easily, namely with money. Well this is quite a strange thing. We look for work to earn money. but I have seen many facts that to get a job we have to pay someone to help us to get hired. But I don't like that. In essence, it's like fishing for money with money.
It's ridiculous but I think this is common knowledge.

That is one of the problem that fresh graduates facing, some of the jobs might required degree but some achieved it thru connections by recommending them despite the fact that they do not meet the expectation of the role in the job. And it's true some would ask for money with saying that "we would immediately process it" that's how hard to find a job. I don't know I think it's fine for me? Cause I know for sure they wouldn't last long in that role cause they've only attained it by just having connections and paying someone, so when the company have a high expectation from them, they won't even meet that for sure. In short, the best thing is to process it right and let them find your potential but yeah it's hard with the numbers of unemployed people.
But you are right that those who enter a job not because of their abilities or skills but because they only rely on insider connections and money, then in the end sometimes they will not be able to last long in that job. Because still forcing ourselves in a field that is not our expertise is not easy. Especially large companies that really need people who really have expertise in certain fields that the company needs. So never give up for those of us who don't have insider connections or anything like that. enough for us to continue to hone our skills and expertise. Because if we can have skills beyond other people then we won't be the ones looking for work but there will be jobs coming our way.

Do you think that if someone can take advantage of relationships and spend large amounts of money to get a job even though it is not their expertise, will they easily give up that job? Or who can afford to fire them? If they already have enough power and money to buy that position, they can afford to maintain that position until a better position is obtained. That's common in my country, people with high education but without good connections cannot compete with people who have connections and money.That is also one of the many reasons why many people today feel that education is unnecessary and useless.

But that doesn't mean people without relationship won't get good jobs. There will still be many companies recruiting based on experience and practical skills, but they will need to try very hard because the competition is very fierce.

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But you are right that those who enter a job not because of their abilities or skills but because they only rely on insider connections and money, then in the end sometimes they will not be able to last long in that job. Because still forcing ourselves in a field that is not our expertise is not easy. Especially large companies that really need people who really have expertise in certain fields that the company needs. So never give up for those of us who don't have insider connections or anything like that. enough for us to continue to hone our skills and expertise. Because if we can have skills beyond other people then we won't be the ones looking for work but there will be jobs coming our way.
I agree that there are many capable people who can learn many professions, even without the proper experience, but the problem is that you most likely will not be hired without the necessary knowledge, or experience in working in a similar job. Therefore, in order to be hired for a job without experience, you need connections with the right people, and I often see that experience is also necessary, even if you have education but no experience, this can also become a problem.
So that's it, we need experience. Meanwhile, to gain experience, of course we must first have worked or be accepted to work at a company. Meanwhile, getting into a job is sometimes not easy. That is, apart from insight and skills and also a higher education diploma. we also need relationships and sometimes money. I think it's like a circuitous road. But despite all that, stay focused on the things we are interested in, develop talents and continue to look for good relationships. Working on the side to raise money and such. If we are lucky we can even open our own business rather than just working for other people or other people's companies. Everything is not easy. But if we continue to try well and consistently then I am sure we will eventually achieve our goals and dreams.

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November 03, 2023, 01:36:58 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
In my opinion, academic efforts to earn a decent income depend on the person. Being smart at life and being smart academically are very different things, even different in nature. Success cannot be measured when he gets a high degree, as long as he has a brain and mentality, if optimized, he has the potential to be successful. Success exists because there is luck, luck exists because there is the ability to meet opportunities

Usually people who are not highly educated are expected to be better and learn from their mistakes, so they can be successful, while those with advanced degrees feel superior and smarter. That's why he always wanted to work at a high place according to his title, but in the end he was unemployed. This is what happens a lot in my country, many of the unemployed are those who have a university degree.
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But you are right that those who enter a job not because of their abilities or skills but because they only rely on insider connections and money, then in the end sometimes they will not be able to last long in that job. Because still forcing ourselves in a field that is not our expertise is not easy. Especially large companies that really need people who really have expertise in certain fields that the company needs. So never give up for those of us who don't have insider connections or anything like that. enough for us to continue to hone our skills and expertise. Because if we can have skills beyond other people then we won't be the ones looking for work but there will be jobs coming our way.
I agree that there are many capable people who can learn many professions, even without the proper experience, but the problem is that you most likely will not be hired without the necessary knowledge, or experience in working in a similar job. Therefore, in order to be hired for a job without experience, you need connections with the right people, and I often see that experience is also necessary, even if you have education but no experience, this can also become a problem.
So that's it, we need experience. Meanwhile, to gain experience, of course we must first have worked or be accepted to work at a company. Meanwhile, getting into a job is sometimes not easy. That is, apart from insight and skills and also a higher education diploma. we also need relationships and sometimes money. I think it's like a circuitous road. But despite all that, stay focused on the things we are interested in, develop talents and continue to look for good relationships. Working on the side to raise money and such. If we are lucky we can even open our own business rather than just working for other people or other people's companies. Everything is not easy. But if we continue to try well and consistently then I am sure we will eventually achieve our goals and dreams.

Exactly, that's a reasonable statement, how can we get a job while on the other hand we have absolutely no experience in that field, and to be able to meet the requirements of the company regarding experience, one of which is that we must work first to gain experience in the same field, so therefore it is quite fortunate for those who have already worked in the field because with that they will find it easier to get a new job with a fairly similar professional field.

Yes that's right, one of the drivers as an action to make it easier for us to find a job or get into one of the companies is to have a close relationship with those who have been in the company or even important people in the company, and also besides that the money factor is also in my opinion no longer a taboo, yes I understand that our goal is to work for money but today is different and money is not uncommon as an alternative to make it easier for them to get into one of the companies, this alternative is quite often used when they have absolutely no experience in this field. Finding a job in the current conditions is quite difficult, maybe only for those who are lucky enough to get an easy job but with a large income. Therefore of course, we should not only focus on one point, always learn in any case, especially positive things, increase the value in ourselves by learning various things that could be useful in the future, learn from those who have succeeded in any case, one of which is business and if you already feel enough knowledge that you get then feel free if you want to start anything like a business because you already have enough knowledge. Indeed, everything is not easy and I say success is only for those who never give up in pursuing their dreams.

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November 03, 2023, 01:50:07 PM
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But the thing is, you stand very little chance of getting a job if you don't have a degree. A degree gives you a chance, no matter how small it may be, at getting a job. So these people who get these degrees, aside from acquiring more knowledge also stand a better chance at getting a job.

There is no doubt that having the required degree is very important to get any job, but where jobs are not available there is not much point in getting a degree. Your degree can be useful only if you go to another country or other place where the degree jobs you want are available. If that is not possible then I think learning a skill instead of getting more degrees can be the best way for you to earn money.

The purpose of getting more degrees is so that we can get a good job so that we can get a good income. where jobs are scarce or unavailable, I have often seen skilled workers succeeding more than those with more degrees. We have to move according to the opportunity, where there is a trend, if we go with the same trend, then we have more chances of success in the future. It will not do any good to keep the item in the shop where there is no buyer for it.


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I agree that there are many capable people who can learn many professions, even without the proper experience, but the problem is that you most likely will not be hired without the necessary knowledge, or experience in working in a similar job. Therefore, in order to be hired for a job without experience, you need connections with the right people, and I often see that experience is also necessary, even if you have education but no experience, this can also become a problem.
A connection with other people and work experience that is mastered will give you a plus and make it easier to get a job.
Experience cannot be gained quickly, it takes a process.

If someone has an interest in their talent then develop and do all the work.
That will give you the best experience.

Those who have higher education will only become a burden when they have no experience or are unable to master what they do.
Even those who are self-taught without higher education can exceed and even be equal to people who are educated in their fields.
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There is no doubt that having the required degree is very important to get any job, but where jobs are not available there is not much point in getting a degree. Your degree can be useful only if you go to another country or other place where the degree jobs you want are available. If that is not possible then I think learning a skill instead of getting more degrees can be the best way for you to earn money.

The purpose of getting more degrees is so that we can get a good job so that we can get a good income. where jobs are scarce or unavailable, I have often seen skilled workers succeeding more than those with more degrees. We have to move according to the opportunity, where there is a trend, if we go with the same trend, then we have more chances of success in the future. It will not do any good to keep the item in the shop where there is no buyer for it.
  But it’s still important to get the degree still even when the jobs are not available yet so that when the job finally comes you will have the upper hand than those who didn’t, when they are employing them as worker you might be the manager. With you qualification you can attest to that position in the industry where non qualified workers are employed. Same way it’s important for those who work 9 to 5 to have a skill or some side hustle to supplement the one they have. Because with the current inflation rate having one stream of income won’t be enough to keep up. Having multiple streams of income will boost your savings. Some people have achieve success with the help of their degree, that they don’t have to find other Jobs. But then you know not all finger are not equal, if there’s  any need to move to from your academic qualification to learning a skill please don’t hesitate. Presently people are breaking loose from the matrix and it’s circular system to being on their own, because being your own boss is  fantastic.
  We still have some people who can’t still handle being their boss, they prefer to work under someone cause they feel they like and can handle  the pressure of working under someone. But thank God for new technology where you can pick interest in any of the freelancing gigs to earn more, you can even choose to invest in crypto or forex that is if you have the idea about the market. One need to have about 2 to 3 streams of income to be able to beat this inflation rate, your incomes doesn’t have to much 2 to 3 is okay so that you can control your business.
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November 03, 2023, 05:07:36 PM
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I agree that there are many capable people who can learn many professions, even without the proper experience, but the problem is that you most likely will not be hired without the necessary knowledge, or experience in working in a similar job. Therefore, in order to be hired for a job without experience, you need connections with the right people, and I often see that experience is also necessary, even if you have education but no experience, this can also become a problem.
So that's it, we need experience. Meanwhile, to gain experience, of course we must first have worked or be accepted to work at a company. Meanwhile, getting into a job is sometimes not easy. That is, apart from insight and skills and also a higher education diploma. we also need relationships and sometimes money. I think it's like a circuitous road. But despite all that, stay focused on the things we are interested in, develop talents and continue to look for good relationships. Working on the side to raise money and such. If we are lucky we can even open our own business rather than just working for other people or other people's companies. Everything is not easy. But if we continue to try well and consistently then I am sure we will eventually achieve our goals and dreams.
To be able to get a job, of course we have to have good experience and also have knowledge in the field we want. Of course it will be easier to get a job and if we want a job in a company, of course we also need an educational certificate that we take in accordance with the request of the company.

I agree with you, it is better for us to choose to focus on the field that we are interested in and if we have talent in the field that we are interested in, of course it will be easier for us to do that job. We never feel bored at that job because we have a job that suits us. Opening a business is very good if we have a skill that we can do and we also have to train it well so that the business we run can run well and we have to do it consistently so we can get good results from what we do.

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I agree that there are many capable people who can learn many professions, even without the proper experience, but the problem is that you most likely will not be hired without the necessary knowledge, or experience in working in a similar job. Therefore, in order to be hired for a job without experience, you need connections with the right people, and I often see that experience is also necessary, even if you have education but no experience, this can also become a problem.
So that's it, we need experience. Meanwhile, to gain experience, of course we must first have worked or be accepted to work at a company. Meanwhile, getting into a job is sometimes not easy. That is, apart from insight and skills and also a higher education diploma. we also need relationships and sometimes money. I think it's like a circuitous road. But despite all that, stay focused on the things we are interested in, develop talents and continue to look for good relationships. Working on the side to raise money and such. If we are lucky we can even open our own business rather than just working for other people or other people's companies. Everything is not easy. But if we continue to try well and consistently then I am sure we will eventually achieve our goals and dreams.
To be able to get a job, of course we have to have good experience and also have knowledge in the field we want. Of course it will be easier to get a job and if we want a job in a company, of course we also need an educational certificate that we take in accordance with the request of the company.

I agree with you, it is better for us to choose to focus on the field that we are interested in and if we have talent in the field that we are interested in, of course it will be easier for us to do that job. We never feel bored at that job because we have a job that suits us. Opening a business is very good if we have a skill that we can do and we also have to train it well so that the business we run can run well and we have to do it consistently so we can get good results from what we do.

Experience puts people one step ahead of others. How experience is gained is also important. Which company and which school are the reference points of your experience? This is also a very important issue. Nowadays there are many people graduating from the same department, but what you need to be different from others is to gain experience.

Sometimes it is not that easy to gain experience because a good company wants experience from you, but sometimes you have to work for low wages and under difficult conditions to gain experience. This is one of the tiring parts of working life.

Focusing on your area of interest allows you to do what you love while gaining experience. Everyone gains experience in some way, but gaining experience by working in a field of interest is a plus.

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November 03, 2023, 06:28:40 PM
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Getting a degree does not necessarily guarantee success, rather your success depends on other factors, such as your skills, hard work, and dedication. It can help you determine how you want to lead your life, but it is not the only reason for your success. A degree can help you gain valuable educational experience, but it is not entirely dependent on determining your life's earning path. It depends on your knowledge, skills, interests, and circumstances. You can achieve any kind of future success in your career, you can carefully improve your professional skills and qualifications.

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Yes for those days and no for the present time or days. In those before you finished your degree programme, companies would be look for you to hire and not only that with plenty assets like cars, house and other befits and there no additional learning of skill acquisition programmes in the university days. Everything was just running smoothly for them but coming this dispensation even in the university you are to learn extra curricular activities to survive in the society because there no employment after your degree programme.

Still yet there are some. mentally disorder or what will I call them believe that after school they will secure a nice job to do. Those people are miscalculating their lives. The world now is man know man. If you know someone in the employment office then you can get the job and if done even with you 1st class degree, you won't get the job. So instead learn a skill and use it to survive.









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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

This use to be the way and pattern for wealth in the past but I don't think that how many degree that you have now can be the prima facie factor to riches,.Degree is good because it gives you an advantage to access better profiting measures that can help you climb but really you don't need a job with WHO or UN to be rich.

With the advent of social media and internet, many influencers have broken some many financial records. You need a degree but that is not what you need to financial glory. You need the right contacts and placement to be able to attract that spike to financial status. Living ready is the ultimate.

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Getting a degree does not necessarily guarantee success, rather your success depends on other factors, such as your skills, hard work, and dedication. It can help you determine how you want to lead your life, but it is not the only reason for your success. A degree can help you gain valuable educational experience, but it is not entirely dependent on determining your life's earning path. It depends on your knowledge, skills, interests, and circumstances. You can achieve any kind of future success in your career, you can carefully improve your professional skills and qualifications.
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November 03, 2023, 09:24:52 PM
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Getting a degree does not necessarily guarantee success, rather your success depends on other factors, such as your skills, hard work, and dedication. It can help you determine how you want to lead your life, but it is not the only reason for your success. A degree can help you gain valuable educational experience, but it is not entirely dependent on determining your life's earning path. It depends on your knowledge, skills, interests, and circumstances. You can achieve any kind of future success in your career, you can carefully improve your professional skills and qualifications.
Of course, a degree is just a sign that we got a decent education. It surely doesn't guarantee anything, we can't automatically be successful in this life after we get a degree. To be a successful person with proper income, we must get good jobs. A degree can help us to get good jobs, but not every jobs can't be determined by a degree. There are some jobs that require applicative skills and proper experience, it doesn't care whether someone has reached a degree or not. Sometimes knowledge, skills, and experience become more important than having a degree. That's why we can't rely on a degree only to get a good job, we must ensure ourselves that we have sufficient knowledge, good skills, and enough experience.


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November 03, 2023, 09:36:29 PM
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Getting a degree does not necessarily guarantee success, rather your success depends on other factors, such as your skills, hard work, and dedication. It can help you determine how you want to lead your life, but it is not the only reason for your success. A degree can help you gain valuable educational experience, but it is not entirely dependent on determining your life's earning path. It depends on your knowledge, skills, interests, and circumstances. You can achieve any kind of future success in your career, you can carefully improve your professional skills and qualifications.
Getting a degree is one of the traditional way to determine a success of a person, but I agree with you that this is not a necessarily guarantee a person's success. Based on my observation as I've been working in a corporate world that having a degree or not, you'll ended up having a same job and basic salary offer in every company. Regardless of your education attainment, once you're already working,  the only way for you to promote in a higher level is your solid work experience, dedication, passion, knowledge and Skills that you might have. Also, There's a lot of individual who has a successful career even if they already stop going in a University/College, Their strong ability, mindset and skills helps them to achieve the stability that they want in their life.
Whenever you do have a degree then there's something that we do called that kind of ego and pride on which you would really be that having with you since you do know that you have finished studies on which it would really be that a normal feeling but we shouldnt really be that making yourself that entitled because success is never been that determined when it comes to this on which we know that there are people who havent been able to finish studies but do made their lives successful and this is why it would really be that wise that we shouldnt really be making some degrading into other people just because they dont have a degree or something that do talks about having no educational attainment. Success wont matter on that thing but it would really be definitely an
advantage for you considering that you do have that kind of background.

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November 04, 2023, 11:58:14 AM
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So that's it, we need experience. Meanwhile, to gain experience, of course we must first have worked or be accepted to work at a company. Meanwhile, getting into a job is sometimes not easy. That is, apart from insight and skills and also a higher education diploma. we also need relationships and sometimes money. I think it's like a circuitous road. But despite all that, stay focused on the things we are interested in, develop talents and continue to look for good relationships. Working on the side to raise money and such. If we are lucky we can even open our own business rather than just working for other people or other people's companies. Everything is not easy. But if we continue to try well and consistently then I am sure we will eventually achieve our goals and dreams.
In the end, it will all come down to the fact that you will have to work for the sake of experience at some not very good job, and only after some time will you get a better job. I was once lucky because I was hired without work experience, right after university, because my friend who work at this job, gave a good recommendation about me, although the mandatory requirement was to have work experience in this position.
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But you are right that those who enter a job not because of their abilities or skills but because they only rely on insider connections and money, then in the end sometimes they will not be able to last long in that job. Because still forcing ourselves in a field that is not our expertise is not easy. Especially large companies that really need people who really have expertise in certain fields that the company needs. So never give up for those of us who don't have insider connections or anything like that. enough for us to continue to hone our skills and expertise. Because if we can have skills beyond other people then we won't be the ones looking for work but there will be jobs coming our way.
the problem is that you most likely will not be hired without the necessary knowledge, or experience in working in a similar job.
this is true especially in my country where most jobs require a certain educational attainment you won’t even be hired in a fast food restaurant if you didn’t finish high school i know there’s some things that require you to have basic knowledge that would have been taught in school in order to work in fast food restaurants but still this makes it harder to find even a part-time job

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even if you have education but no experience, this can also become a problem.


this has always been my worry especially for those who had just graduated again I understand that people with experience are more appealing to companies but how else will fresh graduates gain experience if they’re not being hired?


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November 04, 2023, 12:46:31 PM
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So that's it, we need experience. Meanwhile, to gain experience, of course we must first have worked or be accepted to work at a company. Meanwhile, getting into a job is sometimes not easy. That is, apart from insight and skills and also a higher education diploma. we also need relationships and sometimes money. I think it's like a circuitous road. But despite all that, stay focused on the things we are interested in, develop talents and continue to look for good relationships. Working on the side to raise money and such. If we are lucky we can even open our own business rather than just working for other people or other people's companies. Everything is not easy. But if we continue to try well and consistently then I am sure we will eventually achieve our goals and dreams.
In the end, it will all come down to the fact that you will have to work for the sake of experience at some not very good job, and only after some time will you get a better job. I was once lucky because I was hired without work experience, right after university, because my friend who work at this job, gave a good recommendation about me, although the mandatory requirement was to have work experience in this position.

Well that's more certain, in the end it is whether you are lucky enough or not in terms of getting a job, basically yes I also agree that when you want to enter a company then the main requirement in general is that you must have experience in that field, it is a general requirement applied by almost all companies. And yes, usually to achieve such experience, you must first work in a job that is not very good but gives you good enough experience to then become your capital to enter other companies that are bigger and more promising.

In addition, one way that can be used as an alternative is like your experience, you are lucky enough to have friends who have already worked at the company, you have an insider who can help you get into the job. Basically, finding a job is quite difficult and the problem is usually due to the factor of insufficient or unqualified experience and besides that luck also has an important role in these conditions.

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November 04, 2023, 01:29:35 PM
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this is true especially in my country where most jobs require a certain educational attainment you won’t even be hired in a fast food restaurant if you didn’t finish high school i know there’s some things that require you to have basic knowledge that would have been taught in school in order to work in fast food restaurants but still this makes it harder to find even a part-time job
It seems that the level of education required by fast food restaurants in your area is also not that high if every worker who will be accepted there only has to have an education at secondary school level. And this also still applies in my area where the average worker in a fast food restaurant whose profession is as a waiter has only completed a secondary school education. However, this should not be considered equally in other jobs because companies or restaurants or small cafes are always looking for workers who match a person's skill level as evidenced by the person's level of education.

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this has always been my worry especially for those who had just graduated again I understand that people with experience are more appealing to companies but how else will fresh graduates gain experience if they’re not being hired?
New graduates will also look for experience in different jobs in different places because not everyone has the same skills and likes working in the same places as other people. Although state officials must also make efforts to create new jobs for their citizens if there are sectors that can be utilized by the community. Although some people are also able to create jobs for themselves by opening small cafes around markets or in places that are busy with everyone.

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November 04, 2023, 02:28:59 PM
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I don't know where do you live. In the most developed countries, the educational system(universities and college) is slowly turning into a scam. The students have to pay absurd tuition fees and get into student debt only to find out that's it's hard for them to get a good job after they graduate. Having a university degree makes sense only if you want to pursue a career as a government clerk, lawyer or doctor.
If you want to work in other industries(in the private sector) having skills and experience are more important than a diploma.

In every country, education is business nowadays. In developing countries, coaching and tuition are unnecessarily expensive. And between students, there is unhealthy competition. All this pressure is one of the reasons for the increased suicide tendency among students. In developed countries, they are trying to attract students from developing countries. When these countries conflict with developing countries, one of the major concerns is that students will return to their countries. And I really don't believe getting a degree will secure your life. But education will definitely somehow change your perspective, no doubt. The primary reason for making poor people's lives easier is education. Education is important, but we can't bear the dirty business behind it.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
We should tell people whenever we have the opportunity and those who care to listen that if you must pursue higher academic pathways, they should do it for an intrinsic purpose rather that for financial gain. The reason being that you would get so disappointed when you notice that your BSc and phd doesn't really matter in the world of tech. What matters is how good enough you are. They'll pick 10-year old programmer who is the best in the world at coding that a PhD hold computer scientist without any practical coding skill.

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November 04, 2023, 11:39:22 PM
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Pursuing more degrees can be tempting when job opportunities are scarce in your region. It's not unusual to hope that higher education will lead to a better financial status. However, take the time to research the job market in your country and region, look for industries that are experiencing growth, and find out if they value advanced degrees. The way I see it, employers often value practical skills and experience, so think of any alternative paths to gain those. Also, consider your personal goals and passions because education should align with your interests and long-term aspirations.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 04, 2023, 11:52:37 PM
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So that's it, we need experience. Meanwhile, to gain experience, of course we must first have worked or be accepted to work at a company. Meanwhile, getting into a job is sometimes not easy. That is, apart from insight and skills and also a higher education diploma. we also need relationships and sometimes money. I think it's like a circuitous road. But despite all that, stay focused on the things we are interested in, develop talents and continue to look for good relationships. Working on the side to raise money and such. If we are lucky we can even open our own business rather than just working for other people or other people's companies. Everything is not easy. But if we continue to try well and consistently then I am sure we will eventually achieve our goals and dreams.
In the end, it will all come down to the fact that you will have to work for the sake of experience at some not very good job, and only after some time will you get a better job. I was once lucky because I was hired without work experience, right after university, because my friend who work at this job, gave a good recommendation about me, although the mandatory requirement was to have work experience in this position.

  If you are a degree holder or have completed your education, obviously you can get a job, but there is a lot of competition because there are also many applicants looking for a job. That's why the minimum wage is not the same for everyone.

  Due to the difficulty of applying for applicants and the many who graduate every year, the chances of you being accepted immediately by the company we apply to are very high. For first-timers, this is okay, but for those like us who understand the crypto space, of course not.

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November 04, 2023, 11:58:56 PM
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So that's it, we need experience. Meanwhile, to gain experience, of course we must first have worked or be accepted to work at a company. Meanwhile, getting into a job is sometimes not easy. That is, apart from insight and skills and also a higher education diploma. we also need relationships and sometimes money. I think it's like a circuitous road. But despite all that, stay focused on the things we are interested in, develop talents and continue to look for good relationships. Working on the side to raise money and such. If we are lucky we can even open our own business rather than just working for other people or other people's companies. Everything is not easy. But if we continue to try well and consistently then I am sure we will eventually achieve our goals and dreams.
In the end, it will all come down to the fact that you will have to work for the sake of experience at some not very good job, and only after some time will you get a better job. I was once lucky because I was hired without work experience, right after university, because my friend who work at this job, gave a good recommendation about me, although the mandatory requirement was to have work experience in this position.

  If you are a degree holder or have completed your education, obviously you can get a job, but there is a lot of competition because there are also many applicants looking for a job. That's why the minimum wage is not the same for everyone.

  Due to the difficulty of applying for applicants and the many who graduate every year, the chances of you being accepted immediately by the company we apply to are very high. For first-timers, this is okay, but for those like us who understand the crypto space, of course not.

it is always best to have your degree to compete among those applicants in the job market. but hey, if you happen to start your own business and slowly grow it, you don't need a degree but passion, dedication and hard work would be enough to survive. but educating yourself on the business you are involved with will be a very good advantage to improve how you manage such business.
but for those who are not into business, degree and further studies would be your weapon to strive and find better jobs.

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November 05, 2023, 12:32:22 AM
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Pursuing more degrees can be tempting when job opportunities are scarce in your region. It's not unusual to hope that higher education will lead to a better financial status. However, take the time to research the job market in your country and region, look for industries that are experiencing growth, and find out if they value advanced degrees. The way I see it, employers often value practical skills and experience, so think of any alternative paths to gain those. Also, consider your personal goals and passions because education should align with your interests and long-term aspirations.
i believe if job opportunity is scarce for those that got bachelor degree, getting master degree would find yourself finding opportunity to be even rarer. I think thats the case with misconception of getting higher degree will means getting better opportunity, the fact that there's such thing called overqualified means those job opportunity which pays a little less might not open up to those that have earned such degree and afraid that the overqualification will just bring those people with master degree into lazily working, though this is purely just opinion.
i'd argue that its better to hone skills and use the existing degree and build up career from the very bottom and then getting master degree for the sake of improving career afterwards because that way it will be more smoother in your career.

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November 05, 2023, 02:28:06 AM
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Pursuing more degrees can be tempting when job opportunities are scarce in your region. It's not unusual to hope that higher education will lead to a better financial status. However, take the time to research the job market in your country and region, look for industries that are experiencing growth, and find out if they value advanced degrees. The way I see it, employers often value practical skills and experience, so think of any alternative paths to gain those. Also, consider your personal goals and passions because education should align with your interests and long-term aspirations.

Let me add a little... What is difficult is how the job applicant (who is educated) enters and passes to be accepted for a job when there are rarely job opportunities in his area as a first stage, then after that his performance and higher education will speak for themselves and then it will produce good financial status by itself. I think this is quite relevant and we can see it everywhere, both government and private agencies.

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November 05, 2023, 03:44:52 AM
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Higher education may not directly impact the final outcome, but you should know that the smarter someone becomes, the more they increase their chances of landing a decent job with a good salary. Do you place too much trust in a motivational speaker who pushes their luck into the public discussion? Yes, luck can favor those with lower education levels, but that's only a 1% chance. Are you still confident in such odds?

Elon Musk completed his studies at the University of Pennsylvania, Jeff Bezos is a graduate of Princeton University, Warren Buffett pursued his education at the University of Nebraska, and there are many more stories of wealthy individuals with degrees. If all you've learned so far is about Bill Gates, who dropped out of Harvard University and then become top rich people on the world, perhaps that's a bit of a challenge you want to try. But, in my opinion, it's not a wise move, as long as you can continue your studies at a top university, keep learning and upgrading your skills.
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In every country, education is business nowadays. In developing countries, coaching and tuition are unnecessarily expensive. And between students, there is unhealthy competition. All this pressure is one of the reasons for the increased suicide tendency among students. In developed countries, they are trying to attract students from developing countries. When these countries conflict with developing countries, one of the major concerns is that students will return to their countries. And I really don't believe getting a degree will secure your life. But education will definitely somehow change your perspective, no doubt. The primary reason for making poor people's lives easier is education. Education is important, but we can't bear the dirty business behind it.

I would hardly consider education to be a dirty business. More like an expensive one than a dirty one. Education is an expensive endeavor and is getting more expensive as the time goes by.
Admittedly, a degree won’t entirely secure your life for the better but to someone with an open mind, it enlightens such people about various aspects of life. For want of a better and quality education and its facilities,  educational institutions in developed countries would naturally attract students from developing countries.

Education is an expensive venture and its importance is getting less and less. The more money an individual has and is willing to part with, the more quality education you can get.

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Pursuing more degrees can be tempting when job opportunities are scarce in your region. It's not unusual to hope that higher education will lead to a better financial status. However, take the time to research the job market in your country and region, look for industries that are experiencing growth, and find out if they value advanced degrees. The way I see it, employers often value practical skills and experience, so think of any alternative paths to gain those. Also, consider your personal goals and passions because education should align with your interests and long-term aspirations.

In my own places even with gathering of pursuing more degrees does not guarantee that you will get a good paying job or you won't even get at all, except if the aim is to go into academics fully and end up becoming a professor or doctor, as for my kind of person I will work on my ideas and bring them to life, education have good value but the condition that we all find our self in now i will rather go for a skill or even business instead of gathering more papers, people that have passion should go for what they have passion about, so that they won't regret not chasing their dreams if it is academics then they should go for it.

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November 05, 2023, 10:41:07 PM
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  Here in our country, our government has a program that gives scholarships to students whose parents can't afford to study. Sometimes I think that the government is doing something to help students have at least some achievement in life to help their respective parents.

 Then most of the student scholars do not finish their studies; in short, the money that the government spent on them is wasted. And there are others who have graduated from college, and when it comes to the point where they graduate, they still blame the government for helping them with their studies because they say they don't have jobs. Are we still going to blame the government for that? It's not possible. After you graduate, you can just wait for a company to approach you to hire you, unless you are a Magna cum laude or Zuma cum laude.

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November 06, 2023, 07:36:47 AM
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OP, the answer is no, practically the most successful people on earth does not have much degree to show, I am encouraging anyone but the fact is school can't make you rich or even add more money to your pocket, put this into consideration how much do they pay a lecturer or even a university don, I mean a professor, this things doesn't work that way, if you decide to get degree as much as you want, am not against it but you feeling that your degree will put you ahead of people who doesn't have much degree as you have, will amount to a high level on anyone side, for me, school is just their to make you go through a stage in life to learn some ideas as for the money aspect, nothing of such.

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November 06, 2023, 08:56:24 AM
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Getting a degree does not necessarily guarantee success, rather your success depends on other factors, such as your skills, hard work, and dedication. It can help you determine how you want to lead your life, but it is not the only reason for your success. A degree can help you gain valuable educational experience, but it is not entirely dependent on determining your life's earning path. It depends on your knowledge, skills, interests, and circumstances. You can achieve any kind of future success in your career, you can carefully improve your professional skills and qualifications.
Of course, a degree is just a sign that we got a decent education. It surely doesn't guarantee anything, we can't automatically be successful in this life after we get a degree. To be a successful person with proper income, we must get good jobs. A degree can help us to get good jobs, but not every jobs can't be determined by a degree. There are some jobs that require applicative skills and proper experience, it doesn't care whether someone has reached a degree or not. Sometimes knowledge, skills, and experience become more important than having a degree. That's why we can't rely on a degree only to get a good job, we must ensure ourselves that we have sufficient knowledge, good skills, and enough experience.

I agree with you, any high degree in my opinion will not be able to provide a decent job for us, because as far as I know the degree is just an addition to our last name, although behind it there is a struggle to get it but getting a decent job is the real struggle. the degree does not guarantee for our lives, there are also companies that prefer people who have skills but do not have any degrees, because what they need is real work, not just talk.

It's true that you said skills and knowledge that can provide a good job for us, because if it's not wrong degrees can also be bought. so if for example someone has a lot of money but doesn't want to be tired to get a degree they can buy it, that's the news in my country. So I myself don't think too much about degrees if I have good skills I believe in joining a company rather than with a high degree but no good skills or skills it's the same lie. Because what many people need is good skills not a high degree that is prioritized.

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Of course, a degree is just a sign that we got a decent education. It surely doesn't guarantee anything, we can't automatically be successful in this life after we get a degree. To be a successful person with proper income, we must get good jobs. A degree can help us to get good jobs, but not every jobs can't be determined by a degree. There are some jobs that require applicative skills and proper experience, it doesn't care whether someone has reached a degree or not. Sometimes knowledge, skills, and experience become more important than having a degree. That's why we can't rely on a degree only to get a good job, we must ensure ourselves that we have sufficient knowledge, good skills, and enough experience.
Agree. A degree indicates that we have studied, because a degree does not guarantee someone's success. Because quite a few people already have degrees, the problem is not not having a job but rather the desire to work for a high wage. And sometimes, with their diplomas, they don't want to work and work for small wages, so it's not uncommon for many of those with degrees to become unemployed and have no income, instead they only have expenses.

A degree should not be used as a benchmark for where he wants to work, but he must be able to create his own business by relying on technological developments, because currently there are many opportunities for success. If you only rely on companies or the government, your degree will be in vain.

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November 07, 2023, 08:36:57 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Having atain a greater hight in educational qualifications is not really bad, but excess of it becomes a problem. Many people just want to be honoured for their educational qualification or academic excellent, there by optaining more and more without thinking otherwise. Morover all what ever you read in life will just end up in a paper, and if you are Dead it becomes useless to your family. I think it's good to aquare degree and knowledge about a certain field and put it in practice to make a reasonable thing that will be useful. Who knows you might discover or invent something that will be useful to every body and you will never be forgotten, from generation to generation. Rather than reading an still never got recognized. Mack zugaberg was never a too much degree holder, but his invention of Facebook has been a legacy.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

There is never a time a degree can put food to your table. Life is all about degree but how smart you are. Having degree and skill will put food to your table than only degree. If you are studying to come and search for job, you are really joking. Sometimes why excess degree holdera always have problem of employment, is that they appear more educated than the job itself. So a greedy type in an office will not employ you, knowing true well you are overqualified for the job and you might be a threat to him if employed.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Having atain a greater hight in educational qualifications is not really bad, but excess of it becomes a problem. Many people just want to be honoured for their educational qualification or academic excellent, there by optaining more and more without thinking otherwise. Morover all what ever you read in life will just end up in a paper, and if you are Dead it becomes useless to your family. I think it's good to aquare degree and knowledge about a certain field and put it in practice to make a reasonable thing that will be useful. Who knows you might discover or invent something that will be useful to every body and you will never be forgotten, from generation to generation. Rather than reading an still never got recognized. Mack zugaberg was never a too much degree holder, but his invention of Facebook has been a legacy.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

There is never a time a degree can put food to your table. Life is all about degree but how smart you are. Having degree and skill will put food to your table than only degree. If you are studying to come and search for job, you are really joking. Sometimes why excess degree holdera always have problem of employment, is that they appear more educated than the job itself. So a greedy type in an office will not employ you, knowing true well you are overqualified for the job and you might be a threat to him if employed.
Having higher educational attainment is what our parents really that trying for us to reach as much as they could, we know that this is something a weapon on which you could really be able to make yourself established in the near future.We know that even there are people who do become that successful when it comes to business or investment but still they do really be able to make themselves not having no assurance that they would really be able to be continuous to be successful and this is why on having that educational attainment would really be that a helpful thing for you since this is something that wont really be taken from you.
In case you do fail on business then you could have the option to find some job since you are really that capable on doing so just because you do have a degree.

Although it wont be assurance on getting hired but at least you do have that advantage compared to those who dont have a degree. We know that there are tons of industries who do really require
employees on which it would really be that a normal approach in todays on which means that you could really be having always that back up plans
in case things turns out to be shit.

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November 07, 2023, 10:27:32 PM
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Having higher educational attainment is what our parents really that trying for us to reach as much as they could, we know that this is something a weapon on which you could really be able to make yourself established in the near future.
And it is a treasure that will never be stolen. That's always the case for most parents and that's what they're telling their kids and now we're going to apply this to our kids then.

It's actually nice to have such academic achievements because you're with the standard with most of the companies. But many companies today are changing that standard and their ways of hiring employees.

It's nice to have and a must have but if you're one of the kind like those billionaires or trillionaires that owns a lot of companies, you're special and you might even don't need one.



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November 07, 2023, 11:58:23 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

The answer is it depend. What degree, what university, what cost... Certain countries have reached a point in which Uni no longer makes sense, it is much better to get a basic degree and join a company that develops the people or get directly into business and learn as you need. Some countries however offer cheaper education and then is fine to have a degree - you can then go to another country and make more money.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Having atain a greater hight in educational qualifications is not really bad, but excess of it becomes a problem. Many people just want to be honoured for their educational qualification or academic excellent, there by optaining more and more without thinking otherwise. Morover all what ever you read in life will just end up in a paper, and if you are Dead it becomes useless to your family. I think it's good to aquare degree and knowledge about a certain field and put it in practice to make a reasonable thing that will be useful. Who knows you might discover or invent something that will be useful to every body and you will never be forgotten, from generation to generation. Rather than reading an still never got recognized. Mack zugaberg was never a too much degree holder, but his invention of Facebook has been a legacy.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

There is never a time a degree can put food to your table. Life is all about degree but how smart you are. Having degree and skill will put food to your table than only degree. If you are studying to come and search for job, you are really joking. Sometimes why excess degree holdera always have problem of employment, is that they appear more educated than the job itself. So a greedy type in an office will not employ you, knowing true well you are overqualified for the job and you might be a threat to him if employed.
Having higher educational attainment is what our parents really that trying for us to reach as much as they could, we know that this is something a weapon on which you could really be able to make yourself established in the near future.We know that even there are people who do become that successful when it comes to business or investment but still they do really be able to make themselves not having no assurance that they would really be able to be continuous to be successful and this is why on having that educational attainment would really be that a helpful thing for you since this is something that wont really be taken from you.
In case you do fail on business then you could have the option to find some job since you are really that capable on doing so just because you do have a degree.

Although it wont be assurance on getting hired but at least you do have that advantage compared to those who dont have a degree. We know that there are tons of industries who do really require
employees on which it would really be that a normal approach in todays on which means that you could really be having always that back up plans
in case things turns out to be shit.

Education is powerful, I believe. Knowledge and skills are morally required in modern times. It's about contributing to something bigger than ourselves, not just having a job. Education unlocks that kingdom. Businesses and investments are fundamentally uncertain. They can be cruel but rewarding. I've seen promising businesses fail. Education is the key to success. Controllable variable. You use it as armour in economic fights

In the workplace, a degree is more than just paper; it shows that you've been trained, tested, and succeeded. Though not certain, it's a formidable partner. It's often the determining element in hiring. I've seen many sectors that need educated workers. They require creative, adaptable, and resilient people. If your business dreams fail, education is your lifeline. Plan A assures you're never out of the game, not just B

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November 08, 2023, 01:51:00 AM
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Of course, a degree is just a sign that we got a decent education. It surely doesn't guarantee anything, we can't automatically be successful in this life after we get a degree. To be a successful person with proper income, we must get good jobs. A degree can help us to get good jobs, but not every jobs can't be determined by a degree. There are some jobs that require applicative skills and proper experience, it doesn't care whether someone has reached a degree or not. Sometimes knowledge, skills, and experience become more important than having a degree. That's why we can't rely on a degree only to get a good job, we must ensure ourselves that we have sufficient knowledge, good skills, and enough experience.
Agree. A degree indicates that we have studied, because a degree does not guarantee someone's success. Because quite a few people already have degrees, the problem is not not having a job but rather the desire to work for a high wage. And sometimes, with their diplomas, they don't want to work and work for small wages, so it's not uncommon for many of those with degrees to become unemployed and have no income, instead they only have expenses.

A degree should not be used as a benchmark for where he wants to work, but he must be able to create his own business by relying on technological developments, because currently there are many opportunities for success. If you only rely on companies or the government, your degree will be in vain.

I think that's normal to be choosy when it comes to jobs because some companies give their employees lowballs or low salaries as they are not yet aware of that in the working industry, you can manage that once you get interviewed. Of course, if you are freshly graduated you need to gather experience first in the working industry, so desiring a highly paying job at your first job wouldn't sound good. Diplomas and degrees just show that you have studied for years for a certain course that is related to some job so if you applied for some company they would be aware of the knowledge you have so they would hire you. But yeah, once you are getting well paid, having alternate money sources by simply building a small business could get you to attain the financial freedom you are trying to achieve. For sure you wouldn't like to work your ass off for a very long time, much better to retire early to spend time with your family.

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November 08, 2023, 05:17:09 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
It depends on the position where work through the academic route is quite needed in your country, but when this route has little opportunity then to reach the financial stage depends on how you can look for opportunities. Education basically does not guarantee a decent job, but education should be the basis for someone to achieve what they want and education will make it easier for them to find relationships and create job opportunities for themselves and others.

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.
There is no percentage that we can show that when someone has a higher degree it can guarantee a decent job for him and there is still quite a large percentage of college graduates who are unemployed? Return to the opportunities that exist in your country or maybe you dare to leave your comfort zone and look for work in another country that has greater opportunities in the education sector. The consideration is that there are many risks that you have to take when trying to risk your fate in another country. Education should be able to create jobs from any sector without limitations and if the mindset still hopes to work in someone else's place it does not show the attitude of someone who has a high education.

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November 08, 2023, 06:17:45 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

The answer is it depend. What degree, what university, what cost... Certain countries have reached a point in which Uni no longer makes sense, it is much better to get a basic degree and join a company that develops the people or get directly into business and learn as you need. Some countries however offer cheaper education and then is fine to have a degree - you can then go to another country and make more money.
Correct and actually nowadays , students and youngsters love taking short courses such as vocational courses so they can join work faster to earn money .

My second son don't wanna go to University now instead he wanted to take trading courses Online so he can use the skills sooner (because he admires me having crypto investment)
so yes it is not about actually academic but also the ability and the mindset of the student.

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November 08, 2023, 08:14:21 AM
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There is no percentage that we can show that when someone has a higher degree it can guarantee a decent job for him and there is still quite a large percentage of college graduates who are unemployed? Return to the opportunities that exist in your country or maybe you dare to leave your comfort zone and look for work in another country that has greater opportunities in the education sector.

source img : https://www.statista.com/statistics/633660/unemployment-rate-of-recent-graduates-in-the-us/
for example of a big country like the US, where the unemployment rate for graduates is 4,1% as of April 2023. meanwhile, in my country, it's 8,3% in the latest update. Some people might think there are a lot of unemployed folks because they didn't land recognized jobs, but the truth is they're still earning.

When you decide to pursue education solely for the purpose of getting a job, it seems like a template followed by many, sorry if I see it as a realistic robot-like approach. I prefer someone who learns with the aim of gaining knowledge and lets jobs that require knowledgeable individuals come to them.

Make the company apply to you, not you who apply to the company. This is the level where you will truly have more value than the average person.
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November 08, 2023, 09:18:37 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
Indeed, education is very important, but it is not a criterion for success. A person can make money from different source which is not related at all to his academic discipline. One thing i must say is that academic knowledge helps to manage wealth. After having all the wealth if you don't have good knowledge on calculations; simple algebraic and arithmetic, statistics and probability then it may hinder your progress. Also, if you lack communication skills and writing skills then it would be worst. So, this is the reason why educations are important for any pursuit in life.

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November 08, 2023, 09:36:49 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
Indeed, education is very important, but it is not a criterion for success. A person can make money from different source which is not related at all to his academic discipline. One thing i must say is that academic knowledge helps to manage wealth. After having all the wealth if you don't have good knowledge on calculations; simple algebraic and arithmetic, statistics and probability then it may hinder your progress. Also, if you lack communication skills and writing skills then it would be worst. So, this is the reason why educations are important for any pursuit in life.


Yes, there's an advantage when you know how to communicate well both verbally and in writings such skills give you a decent opportunity
to speak out your knowledge and can bring you to the position you like to be.

Having a degree or good education gives you that edge against those who can't afford but not necessary means that you always take the place.

As there are also people who are good in actual setup even there's no degree behind them once they are being asked to perform
they can do it without any hesitations.
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November 08, 2023, 09:37:55 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
Indeed, education is very important, but it is not a criterion for success. A person can make money from different source which is not related at all to his academic discipline. One thing i must say is that academic knowledge helps to manage wealth. After having all the wealth if you don't have good knowledge on calculations; simple algebraic and arithmetic, statistics and probability then it may hinder your progress. Also, if you lack communication skills and writing skills then it would be worst. So, this is the reason why educations are important for any pursuit in life.

On point! education is very important but this is not the only way for success, I know so many successful individual/ businessman who doesn't have a degree from the start before they become successful, it's all about perseverance, talent and their natural skills, However when the time goes by, they need to enroll in a college to get a degree so that they will learn more how to manage their businesses  and to improve confidence in business world.



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November 08, 2023, 10:18:03 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better

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In my personal opinion, getting a degree does not completely guarantee that someone's financial situation will be better. Because in this modern era, it's useless if, for example, you have a degree but don't have innovation and good knowledge (not improved). Because competition in life is getting tighter day by day. Therefore, even those who have a degree or rank such as a bachelor will definitely still have difficulties if they do not have good innovation. Because you need to remember, learning in universities and the reality on the ground always tend to have differences. So it is possible that someone who has a degree will have difficulties when they go directly into the field. Because what I know now is that what is more important is not just the degrees , but what is most important is knowledge and innovation. Because of the big companies that exist today such as Google, Apple and Intel. don't always have to use a diploma to apply for jobs at these companies.

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However, it turns out that to work at Google you don't need to have an education up to doctoral level, because the company which is headquartered in Mountain View, USA accepts job applicants who do not have a university diploma.
Source: https://inet.detik.com/cyberlife/d-4506835/melamar-kerja-di-google-tak-perlu-ijazah-universitas#:~:text=Tapi%20ternyata%20untuk%20bekerja%20di,yang%20tidak%20memiliki%20ijazah%20universitas.

This means that potential, innovation and experience are very important even if you don't have a college degree. So the conclusion I can come to is that having a degree does not always guarantee someone will be more financially prosperous. But it is knowledge, experience and innovation that play a more important role in making someone more financially prosperous.

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November 08, 2023, 01:51:06 PM
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Academic pursues play a good role in getting your job and if you are looking towards businesses then just academic pursues are not enough because experience is also crucial in getting a job. According to my experience there are lots of individuals who have obtained degrees but they are still at home without any job. The reason behind this can also be the presence of minimum jobs and huge population so every individual cannot get their desired job or may be educated people are not accepting every job easily.

Getting a degree is not basic thing but the actual thing is that how much you learned in your student life. If you have degree and you remembered all knowledge that you have learned then you can easily find your job because those who are graduated are more preferred in all jobs than individuals with lower education.

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Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Although we can not deny that there is definitely some truth to the idea that education can lead to better job opportunities but one needs to consider the local economy and job market. If there are limited job opportunities in a particular area then even a highly educated person might have a hard time finding work. Considering the cost of education is also necessary. In some cases, people might go into debt in order to get a degree and then find out that there are no enough job opportunities to justify the cost. It might just be better to consider other options like vocational training or apprenticeships if the chances of getting a job is very slim.

On the contrary, what some people consider is the value of education beyond just getting a job because education can also provide personal enrichment and growth, and can lead to more fulfilling work and a better quality of life and even if someone doesn't end up getting a high paying job after getting a degree, they may still benefit from the experience.

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November 09, 2023, 12:48:31 AM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

The answer is it depend. What degree, what university, what cost... Certain countries have reached a point in which Uni no longer makes sense, it is much better to get a basic degree and join a company that develops the people or get directly into business and learn as you need. Some countries however offer cheaper education and then is fine to have a degree - you can then go to another country and make more money.
this one is true, if the cost of university is affordable enough there's nothing wrong to get a degree, but if the cost is too high that it makes you in debt with $100k that you need to pays back maybe we should rethink the decision, there are some applied skills that can be learned through bootcamps or something like that, university is a must, but if its a law degree and even medical then university is necessary but I would bet that majority of people out there, getting degree for the sake of getting degree, basically studying the most obscure and abstract major there is and get entagled in debt.
only study and get a degree for a field that truly prospective in my opinion, after all we pay hefty amount to get that education.

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Getting a degree helps to broaden someone's thinking mentality socializing while trying to get a degree is very vital to ones success partially, getting a degree can help and also expose the person to more presentable opportunity in life unlike the ones without a degree if there is no work in that region the person should improvise learn some digital skill and create a niche for him or her self
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Academic pursues can make so many things easy for the degree holders in a particular countries that value degree, because they know what it takes for such students to achieve all those degrees than to do what will make the person to be rejoicing from the rest of his life and to encourage others that have the same hunger for such degree in the country. Anywhere degree holders feel like settle down to make income, they are well received base on that qualifications they have, because many organization knew that if you have such degrees holders in your company, your company will not remain the same, show that such companies will change positively at the moment. Those that dedicated their time to pursue such degree in the country, I don't think government will allow them to struggle to make income than to create some atmosphere where they will be receiving huge amount of income weekly or monthly.

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Academic pursues can make so many things easy for the degree holders in a particular countries that value degree, because they know what it takes for such students to achieve all those degrees than to do what will make the person to be rejoicing from the rest of his life and to encourage others that have the same hunger for such degree in the country. Anywhere degree holders feel like settle down to make income, they are well received base on that qualifications they have, because many organization knew that if you have such degrees holders in your company, your company will not remain the same, show that such companies will change positively at the moment. Those that dedicated their time to pursue such degree in the country, I don't think government will allow them to struggle to make income than to create some atmosphere where they will be receiving huge amount of income weekly or monthly.
Legally academic achievement is very important to achieve in order to fulfill the requirements for getting a job, but not only that, there are many other positive things that a person can obtain in the process of undergoing education, relationships, social relationships and other things that can be done. will have an impact on his efforts to earn income later.

But it is observed and always is the case, sometimes there are many people who are not lucky enough to get a higher education so they have to go through other paths.
Now we look at the averages and of course it is clear that the percentage of people who have an education tend to find it easier to earn an income, that's a fact.
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Getting a degree helps to broaden someone's thinking mentality socializing while trying to get a degree is very vital to ones success partially, getting a degree can help and also expose the person to more presentable opportunity in life unlike the ones without a degree if there is no work in that region the person should improvise learn some digital skill and create a niche for him or her self
Nothing will be wasted if something is really needed for ourselves, for example a degree that can indicate a person's expertise in what field. Because an educational degree can reflect that a person has basic knowledge in a particular field when he wants to apply for a job in his own area, so there is nothing wrong with any degree. Because there are also many successful people who rely on degrees even though they are also accompanied by the experience they have had themselves through their life environment.
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November 09, 2023, 09:09:48 PM
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for example of a big country like the US, where the unemployment rate for graduates is 4,1% as of April 2023. meanwhile, in my country, it's 8,3% in the latest update. Some people might think there are a lot of unemployed folks because they didn't land recognized jobs, but the truth is they're still earning.
It could be because there is no recognition of the work they do so that people think the percentage of unemployment is very large and I myself also think so if I don't see the percentage like you shared. But there are times when this percentage is not completely accurate, such as poverty percentage data which is often released by the government and it could be that the percentage input taken does not cover the entire human population.

When you decide to pursue education solely for the purpose of getting a job, it seems like a template followed by many, sorry if I see it as a realistic robot-like approach. I prefer someone who learns with the aim of gaining knowledge and lets jobs that require knowledgeable individuals come to them.
There is nothing wrong with people's approaches and thinking patterns like that, but what I mean is that education is not a strong reason for people to get a decent job like they want because there are many people working in sectors that were not in demand before. But slowly they start to enjoy it because there are not much better opportunities in other sectors to work. Education is a place to gain knowledge and work requires skills and will provide opportunities for those who have skills.

Make the company apply to you, not you who apply to the company. This is the level where you will truly have more value than the average person.
This depends on how the company sees the individual and skill should be a strong reason to choose us, not because they have had higher education which is their reference in assessing them.

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November 09, 2023, 09:15:50 PM
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Getting a degree helps to broaden someone's thinking mentality socializing while trying to get a degree is very vital to ones success partially, getting a degree can help and also expose the person to more presentable opportunity in life unlike the ones without a degree if there is no work in that region the person should improvise learn some digital skill and create a niche for him or her self
Nothing will be wasted if something is really needed for ourselves, for example a degree that can indicate a person's expertise in what field. Because an educational degree can reflect that a person has basic knowledge in a particular field when he wants to apply for a job in his own area, so there is nothing wrong with any degree. Because there are also many successful people who rely on degrees even though they are also accompanied by the experience they have had themselves through their life environment.

No harm done if you happen to acquire a degree and further studies.
If you have the chance and funds, it won't hurt achieving such milestone in your life.
Later on, you will thank yourself for having one. It will also give you edge among your competitors.
Even if you set-up your own business, still, having a degree is an advantage in my opinion.
It will give you sufficient knowledge not to be screwed by others or at least embark those challenging roles that you will encounter of.
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Getting a degree helps to broaden someone's thinking mentality socializing while trying to get a degree is very vital to ones success partially, getting a degree can help and also expose the person to more presentable opportunity in life unlike the ones without a degree if there is no work in that region the person should improvise learn some digital skill and create a niche for him or her self
Nothing will be wasted if something is really needed for ourselves, for example a degree that can indicate a person's expertise in what field. Because an educational degree can reflect that a person has basic knowledge in a particular field when he wants to apply for a job in his own area, so there is nothing wrong with any degree. Because there are also many successful people who rely on degrees even though they are also accompanied by the experience they have had themselves through their life environment.

No harm done if you happen to acquire a degree and further studies.
If you have the chance and funds, it won't hurt achieving such milestone in your life.
Later on, you will thank yourself for having one. It will also give you edge among your competitors.
Even if you set-up your own business, still, having a degree is an advantage in my opinion.
It will give you sufficient knowledge not to be screwed by others or at least embark those challenging roles that you will encounter of.
Might not really be hurting which is true but there are ones who would really be minding that on the time that they are spending with education is something which they could use into some other things on which they could really be able to utilize on making themselves to be successful and this is why they would really be deciding into going into other career on which they would really be focusing on things  that they do see that there's a chance on getting rich without putting that much focus on educational attainment or lets just say that it would really be just that good on having one and the rest they would really be deciding on changing up career
on which they do seem that they do have the chance for themselves to have that kind advantage or they do really see that they do have the chance on having progress.

Well, it doesnt matter on what would be your target as long it would be for the better good then go with it. Its impossible that you wont really be able to make up some comparison
or not be able to think about the risks just because it isnt worth it or not really that good.

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November 10, 2023, 05:35:34 AM
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Getting a degree helps to broaden someone's thinking mentality socializing while trying to get a degree is very vital to ones success partially, getting a degree can help and also expose the person to more presentable opportunity in life unlike the ones without a degree if there is no work in that region the person should improvise learn some digital skill and create a niche for him or her self

I agree with you on this. The mentality of a degree holder and a person without a degree are not the same. It is advised that, all those who find themselves in countries with little job opportunities should as a matter of necessity acquire skills in addition to their degrees. Degree plus skills makes life favourable, you'll hardly get stuck but also note that a degree is very important.

Take for instant,  a seamstress without a degree only believes in acquiring a small space where they will sew. No advertisement,  no promotions and the seamstress might do little or nothing at all to influence her brand.  She only believes customers who passby will locate her. This act will only limit her customer base and possibly hinder the growth of her business.  On the other hand, a degree holder who has undergone training on different marketing skills and how to reach out to customers no matter the distance will do better.

Academic pursuit makes one prepared for any opportunity.  This opportunities might be delayed but when it finally comes, you should not be caught unprepared.

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November 10, 2023, 10:37:52 AM
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Take for instant,  a seamstress without a degree only believes in acquiring a small space where they will sew. No advertisement,  no promotions and the seamstress might do little or nothing at all to influence her brand.  She only believes customers who passby will locate her. This act will only limit her customer base and possibly hinder the growth of her business.  On the other hand, a degree holder who has undergone training on different marketing skills and how to reach out to customers no matter the distance will do better.

Academic pursuit makes one prepared for any opportunity.  This opportunities might be delayed but when it finally comes, you should not be caught unprepared.
Skill application in the world of work and business is somewhat like that. When you decide to learn, there's no guarantee of success from the start, but learning increases the chances of achieving your goals more easily. Although it's not a surefire thing, with better odds, you can reach your objectives with a higher success rate.

Educated individuals might not always outperform those without formal education... it depends on how someone approaches the world of work and business. Education isn't the sole factor that supports a person's success in their career or business... it's not the primary key. There are other factors that can influence a person's success apart from education.
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November 10, 2023, 10:47:40 AM
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Take for instant,  a seamstress without a degree only believes in acquiring a small space where they will sew. No advertisement,  no promotions and the seamstress might do little or nothing at all to influence her brand.  She only believes customers who passby will locate her. This act will only limit her customer base and possibly hinder the growth of her business.  On the other hand, a degree holder who has undergone training on different marketing skills and how to reach out to customers no matter the distance will do better.

Academic pursuit makes one prepared for any opportunity.  This opportunities might be delayed but when it finally comes, you should not be caught unprepared.
Skill application in the world of work and business is somewhat like that. When you decide to learn, there's no guarantee of success from the start, but learning increases the chances of achieving your goals more easily. Although it's not a surefire thing, with better odds, you can reach your objectives with a higher success rate.

Educated individuals might not always outperform those without formal education... it depends on how someone approaches the world of work and business. Education isn't the sole factor that supports a person's success in their career or business... it's not the primary key. There are other factors that can influence a person's success apart from education.
As we know that some business individuals who is now very successful in their life are the one who doesn't have any education at first, Some them became successful because of their natural intelligence and determination. At this age, Many people who has a bachelor degree but still dont have a successful career in life so I think, its not all about education, It's all about your will to work, your dreams, perseverance and determination to reach the success in life



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November 10, 2023, 11:30:38 AM
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As we know that some business individuals who is now very successful in their life are the one who doesn't have any education at first, Some them became successful because of their natural intelligence and determination. At this age, Many people who has a bachelor degree but still dont have a successful career in life so I think, its not all about education, It's all about your will to work, your dreams, perseverance and determination to reach the success in life

In terms of success, it is not always measured by education or whatever degree a person has, because success must be supported by several other things as you have mentioned. Will, perseverance and determination are important things to achieve success and this is very independent of the education or degree a person has, because a high degree will not guarantee success if there is no will, perseverance and determination within a person.

But for people who have been successful through business or work that they love, it has also been based on certain education in their childhood. Because without basic education for anything it will be difficult for anyone to be successful, why is that? Because everyone needs to learn to calculate, read and see the opportunities around them so that they can determine which direction their business will start and become successful when it develops over time.

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November 10, 2023, 05:33:48 PM
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Finishing your studies and getting a degree surely take you down the road to income but academic degree isn't necessarily needed to have a passive income. I am saying this because I see a lot of degree holders around me who are jobless. Even after 2-3 years of trying they are unable to get a good job. The numbers of degree holders are higher the total jobs available. That's why I see  a lot of unemployment issue here.

To overcome this, one should learn new skills along with his studies. So when he gets out of studies he already has something to work on rather than having no work at all. This new skills will help be to be self employed. That's how it is.
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No harm done if you happen to acquire a degree and further studies.
If you have the chance and funds, it won't hurt achieving such milestone in your life.
Later on, you will thank yourself for having one. It will also give you edge among your competitors.
Even if you set-up your own business, still, having a degree is an advantage in my opinion.
It will give you sufficient knowledge not to be screwed by others or at least embark those challenging roles that you will encounter of.
In essence, it comes back to each individual, whether we have a degree or not depends on our mindset to be successful and to be more productive. Those who get the opportunity to study will gain more opportunities because apart from gaining knowledge, they can also easily gain relationships.

It's easier in my opinion, if you have a degree you may or may not be successful, if you don't study you may or may not be successful. Because to be truly successful is when we can become the best version of ourselves.

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Nothing will be wasted if something is really needed for ourselves, for example a degree that can indicate a person's expertise in what field. Because an educational degree can reflect that a person has basic knowledge in a particular field when he wants to apply for a job in his own area, so there is nothing wrong with any degree. Because there are also many successful people who rely on degrees even though they are also accompanied by the experience they have had themselves through their life environment.

No harm done if you happen to acquire a degree and further studies.
If you have the chance and funds, it won't hurt achieving such milestone in your life.
Later on, you will thank yourself for having one. It will also give you edge among your competitors.
Even if you set-up your own business, still, having a degree is an advantage in my opinion.
It will give you sufficient knowledge not to be screwed by others or at least embark those challenging roles that you will encounter of.

as I posted in the previous post, education can make us all free from ignorance, when our knowledge is good then whatever we want to achieve will be easy to achieve, apart from that when there are indications of fraud approaching us, the insight or education we have Get it can be a protective shield from the frauds, education doesn't always make people successful but education is the best privilege for today's future, don't be lazy to continue improving your education, even Elon Musk took his Master's degree when his business was already big.



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Getting a degree helps to broaden someone's thinking mentality socializing while trying to get a degree is very vital to ones success partially, getting a degree can help and also expose the person to more presentable opportunity in life unlike the ones without a degree if there is no work in that region the person should improvise learn some digital skill and create a niche for him or her self

I agree with you on this. The mentality of a degree holder and a person without a degree are not the same. It is advised that, all those who find themselves in countries with little job opportunities should as a matter of necessity acquire skills in addition to their degrees. Degree plus skills makes life favourable, you'll hardly get stuck but also note that a degree is very important.

Take for instant,  a seamstress without a degree only believes in acquiring a small space where they will sew. No advertisement,  no promotions and the seamstress might do little or nothing at all to influence her brand.  She only believes customers who passby will locate her. This act will only limit her customer base and possibly hinder the growth of her business.  On the other hand, a degree holder who has undergone training on different marketing skills and how to reach out to customers no matter the distance will do better.

Academic pursuit makes one prepared for any opportunity.  This opportunities might be delayed but when it finally comes, you should not be caught unprepared.


Let's have a fact check: there are people who are not degree holders but have been more successful in life than degree holders. why? because undergraduates have become more risk-takers than degree holders, right?

So, when it comes to dreams, it means that there are more open-minded non-graduates than degree holders. There are more motivated undergraduates than degree holders. Although I don't understand everything,



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November 11, 2023, 01:27:54 PM
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Nothing will be wasted if something is really needed for ourselves, for example a degree that can indicate a person's expertise in what field. Because an educational degree can reflect that a person has basic knowledge in a particular field when he wants to apply for a job in his own area, so there is nothing wrong with any degree. Because there are also many successful people who rely on degrees even though they are also accompanied by the experience they have had themselves through their life environment.

No harm done if you happen to acquire a degree and further studies.
If you have the chance and funds, it won't hurt achieving such milestone in your life.
Later on, you will thank yourself for having one. It will also give you edge among your competitors.
Even if you set-up your own business, still, having a degree is an advantage in my opinion.
It will give you sufficient knowledge not to be screwed by others or at least embark those challenging roles that you will encounter of.

as I posted in the previous post, education can make us all free from ignorance, when our knowledge is good then whatever we want to achieve will be easy to achieve, apart from that when there are indications of fraud approaching us, the insight or education we have Get it can be a protective shield from the frauds, education doesn't always make people successful but education is the best privilege for today's future, don't be lazy to continue improving your education, even Elon Musk took his Master's degree when his business was already big.

It makes sense and simply in my opinion is that a highly educated person has a broader understanding of whatever they are going to do, of course in balance with the times, they have a better way to achieve something because they have a broader insight than people who do not finish school or are not educated. As you said, if there are indications of fraud coming, they will know it because they have enough insight to prevent harmful things from happening. I am not saying that the uneducated do not have the opportunity to succeed, but the difference is that they have to work harder to achieve it because in terms of their knowledge it is limited and they will not know about some indications that can be detrimental, so maybe simply in my opinion the educated and the uneducated are the same they have the opportunity to achieve success, but the difference is in terms of failure maybe the uneducated will experience many failures than the educated, the problem is in their limited knowledge.

So everyone has a good chance to be able to achieve success, education does not affect whether you can succeed or not, but with education and broad insight it will make it easier for you to achieve success.

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November 11, 2023, 03:54:28 PM
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for example of a big country like the US, where the unemployment rate for graduates is 4,1% as of April 2023. meanwhile, in my country, it's 8,3% in the latest update. Some people might think there are a lot of unemployed folks because they didn't land recognized jobs, but the truth is they're still earning.
It could be because there is no recognition of the work they do so that people think the percentage of unemployment is very large and I myself also think so if I don't see the percentage like you shared. But there are times when this percentage is not completely accurate, such as poverty percentage data which is often released by the government and it could be that the percentage input taken does not cover the entire human population.

When you decide to pursue education solely for the purpose of getting a job, it seems like a template followed by many, sorry if I see it as a realistic robot-like approach. I prefer someone who learns with the aim of gaining knowledge and lets jobs that require knowledgeable individuals come to them.
There is nothing wrong with people's approaches and thinking patterns like that, but what I mean is that education is not a strong reason for people to get a decent job like they want because there are many people working in sectors that were not in demand before. But slowly they start to enjoy it because there are not much better opportunities in other sectors to work. Education is a place to gain knowledge and work requires skills and will provide opportunities for those who have skills.

Make the company apply to you, not you who apply to the company. This is the level where you will truly have more value than the average person.
This depends on how the company sees the individual and skill should be a strong reason to choose us, not because they have had higher education which is their reference in assessing them.
People pursue education means basically to have a better life, but then better life is defined as having better paid job. the thing about having higher degree of education will make you get a better paid job is only applied in developed countries, because other than those countries, they have no systems to direct graduated students to have the jobs that aligned with their degrees.

more companies choose experienced employers rather than educated employers. this is the situation that creates stigma than education wont guarantee a better paid job, and that education is just a choice, not necessity.

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November 11, 2023, 04:10:44 PM
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Getting a degree helps to broaden someone's thinking mentality socializing while trying to get a degree is very vital to ones success partially, getting a degree can help and also expose the person to more presentable opportunity in life unlike the ones without a degree if there is no work in that region the person should improvise learn some digital skill and create a niche for him or her self

I agree with you on this. The mentality of a degree holder and a person without a degree are not the same. It is advised that, all those who find themselves in countries with little job opportunities should as a matter of necessity acquire skills in addition to their degrees. Degree plus skills makes life favourable, you'll hardly get stuck but also note that a degree is very important.

Take for instant,  a seamstress without a degree only believes in acquiring a small space where they will sew. No advertisement,  no promotions and the seamstress might do little or nothing at all to influence her brand.  She only believes customers who passby will locate her. This act will only limit her customer base and possibly hinder the growth of her business.  On the other hand, a degree holder who has undergone training on different marketing skills and how to reach out to customers no matter the distance will do better.

Academic pursuit makes one prepared for any opportunity.  This opportunities might be delayed but when it finally comes, you should not be caught unprepared.


Let's have a fact check: there are people who are not degree holders but have been more successful in life than degree holders. why? because undergraduates have become more risk-takers than degree holders, right?

So, when it comes to dreams, it means that there are more open-minded non-graduates than degree holders. There are more motivated undergraduates than degree holders. Although I don't understand everything,
You would be able to say that they are more risk takers just because they dont really have the choice.Why? We know that having no degree would really be putting you at disadvantage on trying out to
find or look for some job but still having those person have degree would be the edge on which means that they would really be jobless in the end of the day but since people doesnt really easily
give up then this is where these undergrads would really be making themselves risks takers on which trying out to involved on things which they do seem that it could bring out profits or money into them even if its a bit risky and something that it is really that out of their skills but they do really have that kind of dedication to make their lives way more better.

Im not saying that graduates or having degree have the edge most of the time on which it is really that in fact true about to those who are those people dont have degree which
have that more successful life to those who had finished their studies but we do know the numbers arent really that too huge for us to convince ourselves on not to
take any degree which it is really that a very wrong mindset to have.


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as I posted in the previous post, education can make us all free from ignorance, when our knowledge is good then whatever we want to achieve will be easy to achieve, apart from that when there are indications of fraud approaching us, the insight or education we have Get it can be a protective shield from the frauds, education doesn't always make people successful but education is the best privilege for today's future, don't be lazy to continue improving your education, even Elon Musk took his Master's degree when his business was already big.

 Education is good but do not bring income to us. We need to use the knowledge we have gathered to establish ourselves and create better business if we have the funds. There are people that have the mentality that they are going to rich when they go school. School or education is never the key to success.
 There are many people that are graduate now and still don't have the sense to make money for themselves or become and entrepreneur that is really to create businesses so they can employ other graduates to work for them.









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as I posted in the previous post, education can make us all free from ignorance, when our knowledge is good then whatever we want to achieve will be easy to achieve, apart from that when there are indications of fraud approaching us, the insight or education we have Get it can be a protective shield from the frauds, education doesn't always make people successful but education is the best privilege for today's future, don't be lazy to continue improving your education, even Elon Musk took his Master's degree when his business was already big.

 Education is good but do not bring income to us. We need to use the knowledge we have gathered to establish ourselves and create better business if we have the funds. There are people that have the mentality that they are going to rich when they go school. School or education is never the key to success.
 There are many people that are graduate now and still don't have the sense to make money for themselves or become and entrepreneur that is really to create businesses so they can employ other graduates to work for them.

Education helps you to have knowledge of a certain thing if you're taking a degree for example in engineering, If you are applying for this kind of job, mostly of the company would prefer people who have graduated and have a degree which means they have the knowledge for an engineering that studied for years. They cannot risk hiring someone who's not knowledgeable enough for an engineering role, cause not only you would receive good pay but you are also risking someone's life by building a solid structure. In short, education is just a key for you to have the privilege to apply for a high-paying job that could eventually achieve your goal and success. The thing is, we all have a different way of earning money to reach our goals, it is either being employed or building your own business. Cause for sure if you are the boss of the business you will pay someone who's good at handling money like for accounting cause they have the knowledge you don't. It's just you would pick what suits you.

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Education is good but do not bring income to us. We need to use the knowledge we have gathered to establish ourselves and create better business if we have the funds. There are people that have the mentality that they are going to rich when they go school. School or education is never the key to success.
 There are many people that are graduate now and still don't have the sense to make money for themselves or become and entrepreneur that is really to create businesses so they can employ other graduates to work for them.
Academic education does not guarantee you achieve success but provides knowledge to design strategies to build a business, many academic people achieve success in different fields because they have the resources to think and learn to understand new knowledge, but the average person who does not go to school does not have a job and some of those who are successful. Education is the main thing that is mandatory for everyone and the government has regulated legislation for compulsory education up to high school, I hope everyone understands basic education for their own abilities, because without an education degree it will be difficult to apply for a job

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November 12, 2023, 12:04:51 PM
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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

In this day and age, it seems to be a matter of luck if you get a job. Because of the number of applicants, you just have to wait, see, and find a job. Because not everyone who graduates is looking for a job right away.

Now, when they get a job, even if it's as a degree holder, their income is still below the minimum wage. What they will pay will still help instead of nothing compared to them hanging around anyway, but they will not be able to provide financial freedom, especially without a high position at work.



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November 12, 2023, 12:54:01 PM
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OP, acquiring education is not bad at all; in fact, it's not bad to get any degree you want (B.Sc., M.Sc., PhD) in whatever country you are living in, whether the country has a slim or wide job opportunity. What really appears bad to me is going for those degrees when you don't really have any plan B for your career or don't actually have a target for what you want to achieve with those degrees.

I always tell people to do what works for them—to do things that they have calculated so well what the outcome is going to look like. After spending some years obtaining a degree, what will you use it for? Is it what you can benefit from so suddenly?

One truth I know is that some of the millionaires in this world in their various countries did not have the highest degrees before they started making money. First of all, they knew what they wanted (richness and wealth), so they did what they felt was going to work for them to make them archive what they wanted, and luckily their plans began to work, and they later chased after whatever academic degree they wanted.

I happen to remember one billionaire politician in my country who bagged his M.Sc. and PhD degree at the age of 54 - 58, so it's assumed that after finishing with his B.Sc., he was only bent on chasing wealth and money, and now that he finally became a billionaire, he thought it's wise to just grab his last degree.

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November 12, 2023, 01:02:43 PM
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Finishing your studies and getting a degree surely take you down the road to income but academic degree isn't necessarily needed to have a passive income. I am saying this because I see a lot of degree holders around me who are jobless. Even after 2-3 years of trying they are unable to get a good job. The numbers of degree holders are higher the total jobs available. That's why I see  a lot of unemployment issue here.
Agree with you, despite of having so many degree, what is the value of that degree where people are unemployed. A man certainly needs academic education but he must be involved in service in some way or else he will fail in leading his life. That is, if he cannot show himself in any economic work, then he will not get the real value of that education. A student must set his own goals by deciding in advance what he will do and what he will focus on after his studies. It should be remembered that education rate is increasing all over the world but employment has not increased accordingly. Of course academic degree is required but it never guarantees money income.

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Actually, in my view, education is the process of forming a person's identity or mindset and our ability to form rational thinking patterns in dealing with problems. Indeed, in an era like now, education is indeed important, so our education while at school does not make us able to do everything in our daily lives successfully. but that school gives us an understanding of the thought process in everyday life in earning income, That thought process is what actually makes us successful.

There is no guarantee that with the highest achievement index or academic intelligence you will be successful, but how far can you absorb and think about the knowledge you have learned so far. In my opinion, the determining factor for success is the skills we have in working at the company.

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Actually, in my view, education is the process of forming a person's identity or mindset and our ability to form rational thinking patterns in dealing with problems. Indeed, in an era like now, education is indeed important, so our education while at school does not make us able to do everything in our daily lives successfully. but that school gives us an understanding of the thought process in everyday life in earning income, That thought process is what actually makes us successful.

There is no guarantee that with the highest achievement index or academic intelligence you will be successful, but how far can you absorb and think about the knowledge you have learned so far. In my opinion, the determining factor for success is the skills we have in working at the company.

   Sometimes one would wonder if anything come out for this school, the answer is yes and no. Yes because, without education, there are some level of mingling with people that'd be disrupted because you won't be able to blend in to their level of intelligence and understanding. Yes you may be able to communicate but there's a level of the communication you won't be able to get to with them. The answer is no because, the situation of things right now makes it so obvious that education isn't just the answer. Personally I'd advise that even in the process of acquiring educational knowledge, also acquire vocational knowledge. No one kill owls when any of these knowledges would be handy.
   Another point is, currently securing official jobs is difficult and everyone basically wants to strive to make money and be an average boss of himself. This is where business comes in, you can't start a business you don't have knowledge about. They won't give you this knowledge in the school setting, it's you as a person that'd have to go outta your way to acquire it and lay a good foundation for yourself in that field if you want to venture into it.
It doesn't dispute the fact that  education doesn't give income, whichever way, and in some cases, it does give income and in some other cases, it doesn't. So one just has to create a balance.
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Agree with you, despite of having so many degree, what is the value of that degree where people are unemployed. A man certainly needs academic education but he must be involved in service in some way or else he will fail in leading his life. That is, if he cannot show himself in any economic work, then he will not get the real value of that education. A student must set his own goals by deciding in advance what he will do and what he will focus on after his studies. It should be remembered that education rate is increasing all over the world but employment has not increased accordingly. Of course academic degree is required but it never guarantees money income.

That's why we have to be self employed. We can't rely on the government anymore. I have seen many multiple degree holders to try and get a decent job. But no success. Later they same person made a business of his and became a entreprener. It was hard, he had to start small, build everything from scratch but he was successful at the end. Rather than relying on your government or degree we should rely on our skills. That's why a student should always obtain other set of skills along with his skills. That way, he won't be left away.
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Agree with you, despite of having so many degree, what is the value of that degree where people are unemployed. A man certainly needs academic education but he must be involved in service in some way or else he will fail in leading his life. That is, if he cannot show himself in any economic work, then he will not get the real value of that education. A student must set his own goals by deciding in advance what he will do and what he will focus on after his studies. It should be remembered that education rate is increasing all over the world but employment has not increased accordingly. Of course academic degree is required but it never guarantees money income.

That's why we have to be self employed. We can't rely on the government anymore. I have seen many multiple degree holders to try and get a decent job. But no success. Later they same person made a business of his and became a entrepreneur. It was hard, he had to start small, build everything from scratch but he was successful at the end. Rather than relying on your government or degree we should rely on our skills. That's why a student should always obtain other set of skills along with his skills. That way, he won't be left away.

Starting a business most of the time accompany by struggles and hard work, a person with full determination might able to find success
if he will really try everything, though not all have that same fate and luck.

I also believe that relying with the government is not the best way to find that success so with having multiple degree without any additional hard work and research.

More on how you use your knowledge and how you compete with the test of time to have that successful journey whatever the path you use.
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Actually, in my view, education is the process of forming a person's identity or mindset and our ability to form rational thinking patterns in dealing with problems. Indeed, in an era like now, education is indeed important, so our education while at school does not make us able to do everything in our daily lives successfully. but that school gives us an understanding of the thought process in everyday life in earning income, That thought process is what actually makes us successful.

There is no guarantee that with the highest achievement index or academic intelligence you will be successful, but how far can you absorb and think about the knowledge you have learned so far. In my opinion, the determining factor for success is the skills we have in working at the company.

  Sometimes one would wonder if anything come out for this school, the answer is yes and no. Yes because, without education, there are some level of mingling with people that'd be disrupted because you won't be able to blend in to their level of intelligence and understanding. Yes you may be able to communicate but there's a level of the communication you won't be able to get to with them. The answer is no because, the situation of things right now makes it so obvious that education isn't just the answer. Personally I'd advise that even in the process of acquiring educational knowledge, also acquire vocational knowledge. No one kill owls when any of these knowledges would be handy.
   Another point is, currently securing official jobs is difficult and everyone basically wants to strive to make money and be an average boss of himself. This is where business comes in, you can't start a business you don't have knowledge about. They won't give you this knowledge in the school setting, it's you as a person that'd have to go outta your way to acquire it and lay a good foundation for yourself in that field if you want to venture into it.
It doesn't dispute the fact that  education doesn't give income, whichever way, and in some cases, it does give income and in some other cases, it doesn't. So one just has to create a balance.
On one side, formal education is essential to social and intellectual mixing. Not simply academic brilliance, but exposure to other beliefs, cultures, and ideas. This exposure broadens one's horizon, enabling meaningful conversations and deeper connections. Also, consider soft talents like teamwork, leadership, and critical thinking. Isn't education nurturing these? Any social or professional engagement requires them.

But your 'no' reflects the reality many face. Vocational skills are growing essential. Think about it: they connect theory and practice. Education provides the tools, but occupational skills teach you how to use them. This method prepares for employment market uncertainty. And yes, academic knowledge alone rarely launches a successful business. It requires practical experience, market knowledge, and occasionally heavy knocks. It's about applying theory to practice to manage today's complex environment. Isn't that a more complete way to improve yourself and your career?

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November 15, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
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That's why we have to be self employed. We can't rely on the government anymore. I have seen many multiple degree holders to try and get a decent job. But no success. Later they same person made a business of his and became a entreprener. It was hard, he had to start small, build everything from scratch but he was successful at the end. Rather than relying on your government or degree we should rely on our skills. That's why a student should always obtain other set of skills along with his skills. That way, he won't be left away.
Building a business definitely requires a lot of preparation which we will have to do because if we don't prepare well of course we won't be able to run it well, but if we can run it well of course this is better than working for the government which only has an income according to the position we put.

I agree with your opinion, if students must have expertise in the field they want because they cannot necessarily rely on the educational degree they have to earn the income they want.

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Academics can pave the way for knowledge which will let you get financially stable, but just having degrees will not be enough in the current competitive era. But skipping the basic education is definitely not acceptable because that is the place where you get basic skills along with many other things but there are some kind of conspiracies there from influencers who keep pushing people who don't have to study at all and its a waste of time, blah blah.









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November 15, 2023, 11:39:18 PM
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I want to know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where there are no jobs and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, get more degrees, and attain all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
Sorry to say but we people are so ignorant we mix education with the salary or job. Getting a higher education does not mean that one day you will get a high-salary job no that's wrong. Education is something like you can aware of the things that are happening, how they work, and how to live your life like a human being, not like an animal. But today humans are toys working like a machine and living like animals sorry to say. Just looking to people who waited how to scam people how to steal someone's whole life income, from where they are getting because pure education did not teach all this. Let's come to the topic I have gone so far from the topic. If someone wants to make money by achieving a high class of education then it is wrong he needs to change his mind and that education is not for earning money. Education is something like a key to inventing new things for the betterment of the human race. Just a few centuries back, the old scientists and philosophers worked for betterment and they did not charge like a single coin(that time currency). If someone wants money then do some side job with his education and if there is Bitcoin then there is no need to seek jobs. I am sure you guys will not mind my words if you do I apologize for it.
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November 16, 2023, 03:15:33 AM
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Academics can pave the way for knowledge which will let you get financially stable, but just having degrees will not be enough in the current competitive era. But skipping the basic education is definitely not acceptable because that is the place where you get basic skills along with many other things but there are some kind of conspiracies there from influencers who keep pushing people who don't have to study at all and its a waste of time, blah blah.
Is not an influencer, but this is often said at seminars by mentors who have successful businesses, with some limitations. These folks use their luck as a marketing technique, targeting those who are not keen on learning knowledge to buy seminar tickets. The thing is, everyone's luck is different, and you can't just copy someone else's luck. I really dislike speakers who say, 'School isn't important, education is just a formality, blah blah blah.' They can say that because they were lucky to find a business that suited them and became successful right away.

If we want to be like them, I'm pretty sure the chances of success are very low... but if we're willing to work on improving our education and basic knowledge, starting with literacy, speaking, reading, language, and so on, at least our communication skills will be better than theirs... this makes us more confident in what's called making an effort to get better job opportunities or businesses.

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November 16, 2023, 03:57:20 AM
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I want to know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where there are no jobs and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, get more degrees, and attain all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?
Sorry to say but we people are so ignorant we mix education with the salary or job. Getting a higher education does not mean that one day you will get a high-salary job no that's wrong. Education is something like you can aware of the things that are happening, how they work, and how to live your life like a human being, not like an animal. But today humans are toys working like a machine and living like animals sorry to say. Just looking to people who waited how to scam people how to steal someone's whole life income, from where they are getting because pure education did not teach all this. Let's come to the topic I have gone so far from the topic. If someone wants to make money by achieving a high class of education then it is wrong he needs to change his mind and that education is not for earning money. Education is something like a key to inventing new things for the betterment of the human race. Just a few centuries back, the old scientists and philosophers worked for betterment and they did not charge like a single coin(that time currency). If someone wants money then do some side job with his education and if there is Bitcoin then there is no need to seek jobs. I am sure you guys will not mind my words if you do I apologize for it.
Many people mistakenly believe that schooling is solely for financial gain. Isnt school meant to make individuals smarter, better understand the world, and improve society? Material ambitions have disregarded knowledge for its own sake. Can we rethink education to help everyone progress, not just individuals?

Look at this: schooling should inspire new ideas, not just money. The issue is linking education to money, not financial stability. Why not promote a view that learning creates change and improves society? This move may revive the spirit of philosophers and scientists who sought knowledge to assist humanity, not profit.

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If you got a good degree that's going to get you a high paying job like IT related jobs or engineering jobs then you can expect that you will be getting enough income that will sustain you and more but you have to be really good at this jobs though and you need to be smart and good at forming and making connections with people so you can maximize the potential that you can climb the working ladder of your chosen field of work. The name of the university that you're going to graduate can be a factor too but don't hold on too much on that factor. If you are not doing fine but you can still pull a job then that's probably the time that you need to start hustling and finding other means to make more money.



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November 16, 2023, 07:16:46 AM
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Only 1:1000 un-educated people succeed and becoming the richest man. Meanwhile, the richest people in the world usually have good privileges, making it easier for them to achieve their business goals. Yes, the richest people don't work as employees... they run businesses and invest.
This is what I missed to address and thanks for bringing it out.

Rich people have a backup system even if they fail so they can afford to skip school but they can get the knowledge from someone in their family because their contacts can be wide but someone who is in the middle class can't go behind their passion because if they fail then it's their end, there will be no revival from it is possible that is why we see many intellects living an average life while some crazy YouTuber makes millions in month.









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Actually, in my view, education is the process of forming a person's identity or mindset and our ability to form rational thinking patterns in dealing with problems. Indeed, in an era like now, education is indeed important, so our education while at school does not make us able to do everything in our daily lives successfully. but that school gives us an understanding of the thought process in everyday life in earning income, That thought process is what actually makes us successful.

There is no guarantee that with the highest achievement index or academic intelligence you will be successful, but how far can you absorb and think about the knowledge you have learned so far. In my opinion, the determining factor for success is the skills we have in working at the company.

  Sometimes one would wonder if anything come out for this school, the answer is yes and no. Yes because, without education, there are some level of mingling with people that'd be disrupted because you won't be able to blend in to their level of intelligence and understanding. Yes you may be able to communicate but there's a level of the communication you won't be able to get to with them. The answer is no because, the situation of things right now makes it so obvious that education isn't just the answer. Personally I'd advise that even in the process of acquiring educational knowledge, also acquire vocational knowledge. No one kill owls when any of these knowledges would be handy.
   Another point is, currently securing official jobs is difficult and everyone basically wants to strive to make money and be an average boss of himself. This is where business comes in, you can't start a business you don't have knowledge about. They won't give you this knowledge in the school setting, it's you as a person that'd have to go outta your way to acquire it and lay a good foundation for yourself in that field if you want to venture into it.
It doesn't dispute the fact that  education doesn't give income, whichever way, and in some cases, it does give income and in some other cases, it doesn't. So one just has to create a balance.
On one side, formal education is essential to social and intellectual mixing. Not simply academic brilliance, but exposure to other beliefs, cultures, and ideas. This exposure broadens one's horizon, enabling meaningful conversations and deeper connections. Also, consider soft talents like teamwork, leadership, and critical thinking. Isn't education nurturing these? Any social or professional engagement requires them.

But your 'no' reflects the reality many face. Vocational skills are growing essential. Think about it: they connect theory and practice. Education provides the tools, but occupational skills teach you how to use them. This method prepares for employment market uncertainty. And yes, academic knowledge alone rarely launches a successful business. It requires practical experience, market knowledge, and occasionally heavy knocks. It's about applying theory to practice to manage today's complex environment. Isn't that a more complete way to improve yourself and your career?

Yes, its not really just that like for the sake on having some degree but also having that kind of awareness in lots of things because having no exposure or even learning with the basics in life then you would really be just like looking a clown in todays society or era. We do know that there are really things which needs to be learned which could only be gained on having a degree but of course just like on the rest been saying that everything could really be learned but its not really that something recommended or suggested that you shouldnt really be taking one because having one would really be that always recommended but it will really be
just that depending on someones goals and targets.

Having more income? We cant really be that rich on just having that day job working and this is why we do really consider out on having some other source of income whether having another job or would really be building up some business or having some investment on which it is really that something that you would really be able to have that  chance on getting rich once it would really be able to succeed.
We wont really know unless we do try and this is why its never been that ideal or something that right that you should really be that easily get discourage on the time that you
would be experiencing some failures.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Sadly teachers may not get paid what they deserve but it can also be hard to be a great teacher because of all the pressures put on them these days. They have to deal with lack of discipline with sometime inadequate tools to police their students and the digital age has made attention spans ever shorter to name two of the problems they face, but technology has also enabled improvements in a lot of schools which is a big positive. Let's face it though, very few teachers, unless they reach the very limited position of head teacher, will ever be getting paid as much as the private sector but in many countries they can get fairly good and subsidized state pension contributions, which can somewhat offset the lack of earning potential.

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I really want know if getting more degrees can make life financially better because I come from a country where their are no job and I have seen people that the only thing they can do in life is to read books, getting more degrees attaining all these degrees yet no still go job for them with good pay. Do think people who read in a region with slim job opportunities are doing the right thing?

Most people who go for more degrees believe they can get better job at the end of the day. People that only go for more degrees in a stare with high unemployment rate are they doing right thing by putting all their focus on academic because this is the only thing they can do best.

Sadly teachers may not get paid what they deserve but it can also be hard to be a great teacher because of all the pressures put on them these days. They have to deal with lack of discipline with sometime inadequate tools to police their students and the digital age has made attention spans ever shorter to name two of the problems they face, but technology has also enabled improvements in a lot of schools which is a big positive. Let's face it though, very few teachers, unless they reach the very limited position of head teacher, will ever be getting paid as much as the private sector but in many countries they can get fairly good and subsidized state pension contributions, which can somewhat offset the lack of earning potential.
In speaking about differences in terms of salaries and other correlated concern such as this then it would really be basing or  depending on economical aspect on a certain country or place.
Some might be compensated or well paid and some of them arent really that getting that much benefit or really that worth of the hard work that they've been doing. This is why they dont really have no choice
but to deal with it but we know that things could really be that be improved if we do make out other steps for us to enhance our income which it would really via investment or business.

Its not easy as if you would really be needing to have that kind of capacity on doing so. We do need capital which is commonly the most important thing and since we are really
just that earning sufficient or really that enough then it would really be a challenging thing.So it would really be just that depending on how serious you are
on trying to change up things for the better.

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If you got a good degree that's going to get you a high paying job like IT related jobs or engineering jobs then you can expect that you will be getting enough income that will sustain you and more but you have to be really good at this jobs though and you need to be smart and good at forming and making connections with people so you can maximize the potential that you can climb the working ladder of your chosen field of work. The name of the university that you're going to graduate can be a factor too but don't hold on too much on that factor. If you are not doing fine but you can still pull a job then that's probably the time that you need to start hustling and finding other means to make more money.
This may only occur if the degree holder knows the pratical expect of his/her discipline very well. I have seen a lot of persons with high level of qualifications, consisting of various degrees, working in a furn or organization and after working for like two to three months they were laid off because they lack the technical know - how, while some lack experience. You know some companies would not want to jeopardize their business by allowing in experienced persons to work for them

The road to academic excellence never ends. People who work so hard to bevome an academia, do it because they have passion for it and not because of income. While going on the journey, a person will need money to pay bills and tuition fees. This is why on the road to academic pursuit people do fall to chase money and forget about what they wanted.

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Agree with you, despite of having so many degree, what is the value of that degree where people are unemployed. A man certainly needs academic education but he must be involved in service in some way or else he will fail in leading his life. That is, if he cannot show himself in any economic work, then he will not get the real value of that education. A student must set his own goals by deciding in advance what he will do and what he will focus on after his studies. It should be remembered that education rate is increasing all over the world but employment has not increased accordingly. Of course academic degree is required but it never guarantees money income.

That's why we have to be self employed. We can't rely on the government anymore. I have seen many multiple degree holders to try and get a decent job. But no success. Later they same person made a business of his and became a entreprener. It was hard, he had to start small, build everything from scratch but he was successful at the end. Rather than relying on your government or degree we should rely on our skills. That's why a student should always obtain other set of skills along with his skills. That way, he won't be left away.

Everyone has their own way of life, it is not possible for everyone in this world to be self-employed, there must also be a balance so that competition can be controlled well, but education is still very important, you will not be able to earn decent money if you don't have a degree. good and also broad knowledge, however knowledge is a strong weapon for people to be able to face all the possibilities that occur in life. Being a government worker isn't too bad, but if you hope to get rich from the jobs provided by the government, you have to throw that desire away because it will never happen.



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November 17, 2023, 04:03:31 AM
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Only 1:1000 un-educated people succeed and becoming the richest man. Meanwhile, the richest people in the world usually have good privileges, making it easier for them to achieve their business goals. Yes, the richest people don't work as employees... they run businesses and invest.

Yes. That's an example of Model 1 is at my place. A businessman can't read, but mathematics in terms of arithmetic is extraordinary. those are the strengths and weaknesses. At least typical people like the entrepreneurs above are people who work and are focused and on average successful because along the way they find wisdom.

It's natural that they have privileges, if those who have knowledge have more value, they also have disadvantages. most think even though it is necessary.

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