Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?

[GazetaBitcoin]

maybe it’s worth reminding the person who likes to crunch their nose how the moderators covered for him when he threatened me with physical harm?
he once told me that he wanted to break my nose when we met, but instead of being banned, he now continues to intimidate us with negative feedback)
if he says that this is not so, I will try to find these threats in my archives) There will be many questions about whether Russian moderators were covering for him.. and if I’m not mistaken, he also tried to defend Ratimov then

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.

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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I have nothing against Ratimov, I don’t want to get involved in any drama but perhaps he’s not the man I thought he was sadly so I stand by my removing of him from my trust list.

It's not your fault brother, you were manipulated like many of the forum members. I was active against his wrongs from long time but never felt the urge to bring everything together like the OP did. I am not such type of person too who can bring every piece of the puzzle together. OP did very well in this case.

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.

I think let's not continue to this case anymore. Ratimov has been exposed very well. Moderator, any members who were trusting him or backing him to allow his evil things were simply manipulated. They never thought they were being used. It's not their fault anymore. Let's leave them.

I am retiring from the thread and anything related to Ratimov for sometimes. Thanks for having me.

[1miau]

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.

I think let's not continue to this case anymore. Ratimov has been exposed very well.

I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here. I believe it's very important for the community to investigate these cases in full detail that the community can have the full picture and decide according to that. The best decision can be made, when all the details are on the table. 

[Vod]

I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here. I believe it's very important for the community to investigate these cases in full detail that the community can have the full picture and decide according to that. The best decision can be made, when all the details are on the table. 

Is this an edited AI text?   It sounds very familiar.   

[GazetaBitcoin]

I am not such type of person too who can bring every piece of the puzzle together. OP did very well in this case.

Thank you, BitcoinGirl.Club!

I think let's not continue to this case anymore. Ratimov has been exposed very well.

I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here.

I also share 1miau's opinion here... I suspected Ratimov for a long time for doing in Russian board some things even worst than the ones already known about him (plagiarism, copy-paste dozens of essays, feedback extortion, Trust abuse, merit abuse, building an army of minions, talking like a street thug etc.). But I would not think that he can make death threats. If this is the case, probably this will end his activity on this forum. It is crucial to find out if there exist such archives, proving Kingf1sher's allegation.

However, by reading again this feedback he left a while ago, the surprise would not be too big anymore...

A fuckhead with a broken head. After being raped by all the WEX employees, taking all his mother's money [...]

[examplens]

I am retiring from the thread and anything related to Ratimov for sometimes. Thanks for having me.

This is the right choice. At this moment, after everything, it seems almost impossible for Ratimov to return to DT. So, this thread has achieved its purpose, everything else is just repeating what has already been said.

I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here. I believe it's very important for the community to investigate these cases in full detail that the community can have the full picture and decide according to that. The best decision can be made, when all the details are on the table. 

Is this an edited AI text?   It sounds very familiar.   

It seems that human wrote the text after all 

[1miau]

I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here. I believe it's very important for the community to investigate these cases in full detail that the community can have the full picture and decide according to that. The best decision can be made, when all the details are on the table. 

Is this an edited AI text?   It sounds very familiar.   

Seriously?
And I thought my English is bad. 

talking like a street thug etc.

Wouldn't surprise me because as usual, everyone needs to practice somewhere. 

[Vod]

It seems that human wrote the text after all 

I did mention editing...

[1miau]

It seems that human wrote the text after all 

I did mention editing...

Does it make any sense for me
- to ask Chat GPT a simple question to create the text by AI
- to edit it a little bit
- finally post it here
?
Doesn't make sense at all. 
How much time would be saved? Little to nothing...

[digaran]

@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.

The same could be said for most of the trust abusers, since we are talking about people on DT1, and their problem is that they are not capable of discussing or win a discussion, hence they resort to the one thing that is in their advantage, the only thing that gives them any sort of power, DT tag.  Otherwise we can see so many legit people argue over many things and sometimes they fail to prove their points, if they all wanted to get back at the other person by either bullying, attacking etc, no one could stay alive. That's why it's better to isolate such abusers from the community to prevent spreading the virus.😉

[Vod]

1miau, a lot of non-english speakers want to be on this forum and pretend to be english speakers.       They can generate intelligent text in their language, edit and translate.   

I'm not saying in any way that is what happened here - I'm just pointing out it is a possibility that shouldn't be dismissed as easily as you did.

[Learn Bitcoin]

@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.

Forum rule no. 3, No trolling.
So you suggesting Vod to be careful of 1miau? I don't know why, but I had a feeling that do not deserve that many tags, but why do you want to prove me (or whoever thinks) wrong? You are writing off-topic things here. Surely, Vod is not trolling him. He just had a feeling that the text seemed so accurate which AI does and he just decided to post it. 1miau responded as well, and I do not see any conflict between them. But you are the one who is poking 1miau and want to fuel it. LOL

[1miau]

1miau, a lot of non-english speakers want to be on this forum and pretend to be english speakers.       They can generate intelligent text in their language, edit and translate.   

I know and I totally agree to you that it's important to combat this. 
It's a lot of work for campaign managers, so community reviews are always welcome.

I'm not saying in any way that is what happened here - I'm just pointing out it is a possibility that shouldn't be dismissed as easily as you did.

My replies weren't meant to "dismiss" it or to downplay this sort of issue, sorry if my joke with "You know, I'm something of AI myself" wasn't that funny as I've expected. 
Sometimes, bad jokes can cause confusion.

@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.

But you are the one who is poking 1miau and want to fuel it. LOL

Exactly this and this hasn't been the first time, digaran engaged in excessive trolling:

1miau

This is because these users are examples, indeed. They are also Merit Sources and (with few exceptions) DT1 users. And they act fair and decent.

Thanks for the joke OP.

Don't tell me, you and your nazi friend will give them neutral or even negative, right? Because who really cares if 2 nazis run around the forum and individually harass forum members with threats, trust feedbacks, am I right or am I right?

The way I see some of you weasel nazis operate, soon it will be you and your alts all alone left here with nothing to do but circle fingering each other.😅

(And that's only what I've detected in the threads I've read.)

Looks like I'm living in his mind rent-free. 
And if there was any doubt if these feedbacks on digaran's account were justified, at least now we know that they are 100% deserved. 

[lovesmayfamilis]

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.

I won’t take anyone’s side here since you already know my position, but Kingf1sher’s post was not about Ratimov. This was probably misunderstood. I can't find the threat post, but confirmation that Kingf1sher was talking about madnessteat remains in the archives. I also remember that story where Madnessteat somehow "threatened" Kingf1sher. The latter was painted with a negative trust for purchasing the account, and his communication with Madnessteat went beyond the bounds of decency. From here, you can see that this drama between them continues on any topic.
https://ninjastic.space/post/53473695

[GazetaBitcoin]

I won’t take anyone’s side here since you already know my position, but Kingf1sher’s post was not about Ratimov. This was probably misunderstood. I can't find the threat post, but confirmation that Kingf1sher was talking about madnessteat remains in the archives. I also remember that story where Madnessteat somehow "threatened" Kingf1sher.

Thank you for clarifying this, lovesmayfamilis.

So let me see if I understood this right: it was madnessteat the one threatening Kingf1sher, right? If so, are you so kind, please, to find the post containing those threats? I would like to report them, as this deserves a ban.

As a coincidence, this only proves a Romanian saying: tell me who your friends are, so I'll know who you are. madnessteat is one of Ratimov's minions and this says a lot about Ratimov's character as well.


As for the recent discussion about 1miau, I believe that his reputation precedes him and everybody knows what an exemplary forum contributor he is.

[LoyceV]

Right now all these topics looks spam threads with so many merits wasted.

I've been curious for a while, so I checked: Ratimov (2627711) received 1110/11924=9.30% Merit for deleted posts and 1522/11924=12.76% Merit for short posts. Note that posts on hidden (Mod) boards are counted as "deleted" because I don't see them.
This includes all Merit data up to theymos' last Merit data dump (last Friday).

I consider posts with less than 16 characters to be short posts. In most cases, this means the user wiped the content of his post, but this can have false positives, or false negatives (it's tricky to check the real post length with BBCode and Russian characters, and short posts can be worth Merit). That's why I list all short posts here, labeled as the number of Merit they received:
8, 33, 21, 14, 23, 6, 8, 4, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 10, 10, 1, 12, 32, 3, 2, 2, 6, 14, 3, 10, 28, 2, 14, 2, 7, 60, 4, 2, 1, 5, 1, 19, 5, 10, 7, 13, 9, 1, 4, 2, 8, 1, 1, 4, 22, 2, 2, 1, 5, 24, 52, 2, 25, 4, 14, 10, 2, 8, 9, 2, 1, 1, 3, 42, 5, 23, 17, 5, 18, 1, 1, 291, 7, 9, 3, 17, 10, 2, 10, 8, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 35, 60, 3, 4, 1, 35, 18, 2, 94, 5, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 4, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 34, 40
I didn't check for posts that had a username change after theymos restored them, but if the post was replaced by something short, they're included in this list.
I'll create full data on all users, but that takes a while to scrape.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I've been curious for a while, so I checked: Ratimov (2627711) received 1110/11924=9.30% Merit for deleted posts and 1522/11924=12.76% Merit for short posts.

So Ratimov received 1522 merits (which is more than necessary for becoming Legendary!!!) for writing a few letters. Those must have been amazing letters!


And, as great minds think the same, I also thought about a short analysis today: it's the first time in the past 214 weeks since Ratimov's supporters (n.b. -- users trusting him) are not more than the ones distrusting him. On latest update provided by LV, there are 49 users trusting him and 49 distrusting him.

There are still a lot trusting him but the balance goes in the right direction, to say so. For example, at the end of week 45, so just before he made the circus inside AOBT thread (which generated everything that followed), he was trusted by 71 users and distrusted by only 24. During same week, his DT strength was +13, while now it is -9.

And I am sure that the numbers of those distrusting him and of those which will stop trusting him will keep growing.

[Synchronice]

However, by reading again this feedback he left a while ago, the surprise would not be too big anymore...

A fuckhead with a broken head. After being raped by all the WEX employees, taking all his mother's money [...]

Maybe he is a voice actor and so many offensive sentences are the result of him dubbing this movie? Кpoвь и бeтoн

Is this an edited AI text?   It sounds very familiar.   

Seriously?
And I thought my English is bad. 

Your English is bad? You are a typical German who when asked Sprichst du Englisch? answers with Ich spreche ein bisschen Englisch but speaks and writes in English better than any random British or American. Okay, I'm kidding but your English is not bad, it's gut!

@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.

This quote of yours makes me think that he is not a trust abuser. Why do you call him nazi? Because he is a German?

[GazetaBitcoin]

Maybe he is a voice actor and so many offensive sentences are the result of him dubbing this movie?

I don't think he is a voice actor but, for sure, he is an actor. He played his role well all these years when he succeeded in fooling all the forum about what-a-great-contributor the imposter is.

[1miau]

And I thought my English is bad.  

Your English is bad? You are a typical German who when asked Sprichst du Englisch? answers with Ich spreche ein bisschen Englisch but speaks and writes in English better than any random British or American. Okay, I'm kidding but your English is not bad, it's gut!

Many thanks for your positive feedback. I appreciate it very much, especially because I didn't expect it.  

@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.

Why do you call him nazi? Because he is a German?

Because he doesn't have any arguments left. Like Ratimov did against GazetaBitcoin, there's just name calling left. And "Nazi" is one of the most common insults. On the forum, 99% of the cases where someone is called "Nazi", the accused person doesn't share Nazi ideology.
So, instead of presenting some arguments, it's a Nazi.
Just few days ago, stompix made a very good comparison:

Don't tell me, you and your nazi

Yawn, everyone used this nazi thing on everything that it lost all meaning, nazi this nazi that, nobody reacts to that anymore, replace nazi with pomegranate ice cream and you get the same reaction, nothing!

Maybe he is a voice actor and so many offensive sentences are the result of him dubbing this movie?

I don't think he is a voice actor but, for sure, he is an actor. He played his role well all these years when he succeeded in fooling all the forum about what-a-great-contributor the imposter is.

It's even more impressive how he messed it up. Even the most level headed and calm DT1 members took action. That's really unprecedeted and probably Ratimov still thinks he's right.