Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia on April 20

[Getmon]

There is no Devin Haney versus Gervonta Davis. There is no Ryan Garcia versus Jose Ramirez. Because Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia bargained a deal for an April 20 match in Las Vegas. This is not the match fans are expecting but this is a great challenge for Ryan Garcia. A fighter that knocks opponents and the other is a defense technician.


Reported from https://www.badlefthook.com/2024/2/9/24067330/devin-haney-vs-ryan-garcia-deal-reportedly-done-april-20-boxing-news-2024

[Kemarit]

Yes, saw this on my feed and it was good if the fight is really a done deal and it will happen on April 20. It looks like Garcia is really chasing greatness as this point as Haney has already achieved it at a young age, undisputed at 135 lbs and now becoming a champion at 140 lbs.

I think it will be one of the biggest fight if not the biggest fight for this year again for Ryan. Maybe 1 million PPV buys like what him and Tank Davis did last year. Haney might be the favorite going into this fight though, and his slick style might be difficult for Ryan but I think Garcia might have a better chance because of his power. He might caught Haney along the way and see how Haney will react one he feel the power of Ryan.

[bisdak40]

Hi there OP, there is already a thread for this one created ahead of this so i think it's better to close this one and discuss matters pertaining to this fight in a single thread.

Thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484623.msg63638382#msg63638382

[Getmon]

Yes, saw this on my feed and it was good if the fight is really a done deal and it will happen on April 20. It looks like Garcia is really chasing greatness as this point as Haney has already achieved it at a young age, undisputed at 135 lbs and now becoming a champion at 140 lbs.

I think it will be one of the biggest fight if not the biggest fight for this year again for Ryan. Maybe 1 million PPV buys like what him and Tank Davis did last year. Haney might be the favorite going into this fight though, and his slick style might be difficult for Ryan but I think Garcia might have a better chance because of his power. He might caught Haney along the way and see how Haney will react one he feel the power of Ryan.

Garcia wants to be great, but maybe he just wants to improve his skills first. Garcia has an opportunity to as a result of his power, but Haney is a cautious technician who continues to improve. Prograis was a champion with power however he cannot touch Haney and Garcia could likewise have a similar destiny if he does not make speedy improvement of his abilities.

After Garcia shoved Haney, the match just got more interesting. Then Garcia expressed something to Bill Haney that drove the elderly person mad wanting to toss his clenched hands.

Video of the meet up- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsS4oQM682g

Hi there OP, there is already a thread for this one created ahead of this so i think it's better to close this one and discuss matters pertaining to this fight in a single thread.

Thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484623.msg63638382#msg63638382

Hello. After checking the link, I made the topic first. You can check the date once more.

[bisdak40]

Hi there OP, there is already a thread for this one created ahead of this so i think it's better to close this one and discuss matters pertaining to this fight in a single thread.

Thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484623.msg63638382#msg63638382

Hello. After checking the link, I made the topic first. You can check the date once more.

My bad, sorry that I made a mistake, yeah you made a thread for this first so this thread has the right to be here or at least not locked.


https://www.facebook.com/reel/288236290656123

I don't know if the video above is part of the promotion but it's just amusing how Ryan Garcia ran up to Devin Haney for a confrontation/face-off.

Just like I said on the other thread this needs only a little promotion as the social media pages of Ryan Garcia will do the rest lol.

[Baofeng]

And this is what Haney has to say,

“We've seen Ryan quit before and I think this won't be anything different,” Haney told DAZN recently.

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-weve-seen-ryan-garcia-quit-hell-quit-on-april-20th--181412

And I think we will hear that kind of attacks from Devin Haney moving forward. Ryan started everything with that shove that many media covered. And it it's time for the Haney's to make a comeback, hehehe.

This might not end good for Ryan, 

[Yogee]

[...]Ryan started everything with that shove that many media covered. And it it's time for the Haney's to make a comeback, hehehe
This might not end good for Ryan, 

I don't think Ryan would quit but I can see him getting frustrated during the fight.

I understand the need to sell the fight to as many viewers as possible but I think the shove wasn't necessary. He's trying to get into Devin's head but the media attention could also distract him from what he has to do. I hope he doesn't get branded as "all bark and no bite" after this is over.

[OgNasty]

Ryan hasn’t been the same since his loss to Tank. He’s beefing with YouTubers, flirting with podcast hosts, trying to collect money for his Dad, and is reportedly nearly broke after becoming addicted to gambling and losing all his money. At the rate he’s spiraling downward, he may be destined to be a statistic. Just a few months ago he was one of the biggest rising stars in boxing…

[inthelongrun]

This is still unbelievable to me. I thought Ryan was only bluffing earlier. Is Kingry cashing out and then quitting boxing after getting embarrassed by Haney? I cannot imagine how Ryan can win this fight. Haney is not known as a knockout artist but I guess this will be the first time he scores a stoppage as a champion. Oscar De La Hoya and Bernard Hopkins must be laughing at this. I believe this is the last fight of Ryan under GBP. And he won't be that marketable anymore if Haney stops him. Maybe Ryan will also make an excuse later to cancel this fight just like Fury.

[bbc.reporter]

And this is what Haney has to say,

“We've seen Ryan quit before and I think this won't be anything different,” Haney told DAZN recently.

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-weve-seen-ryan-garcia-quit-hell-quit-on-april-20th--181412

And I think we will hear that kind of attacks from Devin Haney moving forward. Ryan started everything with that shove that many media covered. And it it's time for the Haney's to make a comeback, hehehe.

This might not end good for Ryan, 

King Ry will lose, however, he will not lose similar to how he was knocked down by Tank Davis. Also, Ryan was not allowed to go more above a certain weight vs. Tank. He was forced and tricked into signing the contract. Oscar dela Hoya should have not have allowed it. He is weakening King Ry's career.

However, this fight vs. Haney, Oscar has done good for his fighter. But are there suspicious notes and head scratching agreements in the contract similar to the contract created by Tank Davis' team?

[Yaunfitda]

This is still unbelievable to me. I thought Ryan was only bluffing earlier. Is Kingry cashing out and then quitting boxing after getting embarrassed by Haney? I cannot imagine how Ryan can win this fight. Haney is not known as a knockout artist but I guess this will be the first time he scores a stoppage as a champion. Oscar De La Hoya and Bernard Hopkins must be laughing at this. I believe this is the last fight of Ryan under GBP. And he won't be that marketable anymore if Haney stops him. Maybe Ryan will also make an excuse later to cancel this fight just like Fury.

Yes, names like Rolly Romero and even Pitbull Cruz was being thrown around Ryan and even he confirms or denies those fights. I think it's more of cashing in with his popularity and doesn't care about his 0 or losses any more as obviously he had one already. Or maybe GBP or Oscar is trying to satisfy Ryan Garcia. For sure we all have heard that him and Ryan are not seeing eye to eye. So maybe to please Ryan, he had to deliver big money fights for him. And perhaps Oscar has learn from his previous cash cow Canelo that he needed as promotional manager to give what this fighters want and that is big money fights for their ego and lifestyles. I don't think that Ryan will cancel this fight, everything has been set up including that shove he did on Devin Haney on Super bowl night.

[btc_angela]

This is still unbelievable to me. I thought Ryan was only bluffing earlier. Is Kingry cashing out and then quitting boxing after getting embarrassed by Haney? I cannot imagine how Ryan can win this fight. Haney is not known as a knockout artist but I guess this will be the first time he scores a stoppage as a champion. Oscar De La Hoya and Bernard Hopkins must be laughing at this. I believe this is the last fight of Ryan under GBP. And he won't be that marketable anymore if Haney stops him. Maybe Ryan will also make an excuse later to cancel this fight just like Fury.

We can't really say, he quit boxing because of his mental health though. But if he lost to Tank take a knee and was not embarrassed, then I think it will not getting worst than that. He was knockout for the first time in his career and others says that he quit.

So not sure if Haney will have that kind of performance against him. This is 140 lbs, no more weight drain for Ryan although I think Haney is still the bigger fighter in the fight as he can rehydrate to even 160 lbs. I think he can still make fights even if he losses this one . At least if you compare him to Tank who still doesn't want to fight the best and they wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

[robelneo]

This is still unbelievable to me. I thought Ryan was only bluffing earlier. Is Kingry cashing out and then quitting boxing after getting embarrassed by Haney? I cannot imagine how Ryan can win this fight. Haney is not known as a knockout artist but I guess this will be the first time he scores a stoppage as a champion. Oscar De La Hoya and Bernard Hopkins must be laughing at this. I believe this is the last fight of Ryan under GBP. And he won't be that marketable anymore if Haney stops him. Maybe Ryan will also make an excuse later to cancel this fight just like Fury.

We can't really say, he quit boxing because of his mental health though. But if he lost to Tank take a knee and was not embarrassed, then I think it will not getting worst than that. He was knockout for the first time in his career and others says that he quit.

He has an alibi for that and that is the rehydration clause, and he's been making those excuses in all his interviews even in his coming fight against Haney his excuse is Gervonta beat him because he was handicapped, so if Haney beat him, he would have no excuse this time.
Garcia is confident that he can beat Haney because they already fought in their amateur days, which is very different now because Haney is miles ahead when it comes to skill.

So not sure if Haney will have that kind of performance against him. This is 140 lbs, no more weight drain for Ryan although I think Haney is still the bigger fighter in the fight as he can rehydrate to even 160 lbs. I think he can still make fights even if he losses this one . At least if you compare him to Tank who still doesn't want to fight the best and they wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

Haney will fight in the weight that he is comfortable with, so he can utilize his speed and skill, Haney right now is the best fighter in the 140 since he is the undisputed champion and he fought some of the best fighters in that division, this is a legacy fight for fighters and there will be no excuse because there is no handicap clause in the contract, so the winner will take everything in this fight.

[benalexis12]

I think Devin Haney only looks like Ryan; if I were to bet, I would bet on Haney because I think he has hidden skills that Ryan doesn't know about him. But of course, this is just my opinion, and I'm just guessing and not sure.

But if I base it on his fights, I've only really seen him against Ryan, so it's probably a big advantage and points for him if he wins against his opponent for real.

[Maslate]

I think Devin Haney only looks like Ryan; if I were to bet, I would bet on Haney because I think he has hidden skills that Ryan doesn't know about him. But of course, this is just my opinion, and I'm just guessing and not sure.

Hidden skills? I don't think he has one.. I mean, he is already good as a boxer, although everyone sees what he can do on the ring, but they can't figure out how to win. Ryan will try his turn to figure out how to beat Haney, but the public are favoring Haney to win making Ryan Garcia the underdog despite his popularity. Well, everyone should understand tha boxing is all about skills, and although I can say that Ryan also has some skills, but Haney has more impressive career now.

But if I base it on his fights, I've only really seen him against Ryan, so it's probably a big advantage and points for him if he wins against his opponent for real.

Better check his highlights if you are referring to Haney. Ryan here is not an undefeated anymore as he fall to the hands of Tank Davis, now, trying a much bigger and probably quicker boxer which.

@robelneo, I saw your thread was locked, so this should be the official one for discussion.

[robelneo]

Better check his highlights if you are referring to Haney. Ryan here is not an undefeated anymore as he fall to the hands of Tank Davis, now, trying a much bigger and probably quicker boxer which.

@robelneo, I saw your thread was locked, so this should be the official one for discussion.

Yes aware of that I should have locked it and apologized to OP for not taking action, anyway its still two months but the excitement just started could be the fight of the year and the thrash talks of the year too, I just noticed it 2 against 1 on the trash talk war Ryan should bring along his father too so it will become a father against father and son against son  .
And Ryan's bodyguards are better than Haney's too, the Haneys should fire their bodyguards and replace them with much bigger bodyguards, I will not be surprised if a brawl happens during a press con, no one wants to be subdued on the thrash talk

[Kelvinid]

Better check his highlights if you are referring to Haney. Ryan here is not an undefeated anymore as he fall to the hands of Tank Davis, now, trying a much bigger and probably quicker boxer which.

@robelneo, I saw your thread was locked, so this should be the official one for discussion.

Yes aware of that I should have locked it and apologized to OP for not taking action, anyway its still two months but the excitement just started could be the fight of the year and the thrash talks of the year too, I just noticed it 2 against 1 on the trash talk war Ryan should bring along his father too so it will become a father against father and son against son  .
And Ryan's bodyguards are better than Haney's too, the Haneys should fire their bodyguards and replace them with much bigger bodyguards, I will not be surprised if a brawl happens during a press con, no one wants to be subdued on the thrash talk

Having a brawl during the press but the fight will still continue, that would be a great scenario to seek more attention, just like on Mayweather's exhibition fight press against Logan Paul IIRC. More drama will create more attention, and could potentially create more money, and if they'll do that, I wouldn't be surprise if this fight will have a bigger PPV revenue compared to Ryan vs Tank Davis.

[Viscore]

Better check his highlights if you are referring to Haney. Ryan here is not an undefeated anymore as he fall to the hands of Tank Davis, now, trying a much bigger and probably quicker boxer which.

@robelneo, I saw your thread was locked, so this should be the official one for discussion.

Yes aware of that I should have locked it and apologized to OP for not taking action, anyway its still two months but the excitement just started could be the fight of the year and the thrash talks of the year too, I just noticed it 2 against 1 on the trash talk war Ryan should bring along his father too so it will become a father against father and son against son  .
And Ryan's bodyguards are better than Haney's too, the Haneys should fire their bodyguards and replace them with much bigger bodyguards, I will not be surprised if a brawl happens during a press con, no one wants to be subdued on the thrash talk

Having a brawl during the press but the fight will still continue, that would be a great scenario to seek more attention, just like on Mayweather's exhibition fight press against Logan Paul IIRC. More drama will create more attention, and could potentially create more money, and if they'll do that, I wouldn't be surprise if this fight will have a bigger PPV revenue compared to Ryan vs Tank Davis.

I think if they'll agree on that and try to stage a brawl it could happen. Afterall, they both wants to sell a high PPV so they can earn a lot of money in this fight. This might e a chance for Haney to earn a good paycheck in a championship fight, and although Ryan is known as the inferior boxer, but since he talks a lot and people loves him talking, that will earn a lot of followers and probably haters too to watch the fight.

[coin-investor]

Having a brawl during the press but the fight will still continue, that would be a great scenario to seek more attention, just like on Mayweather's exhibition fight press against Logan Paul IIRC. More drama will create more attention, and could potentially create more money, and if they'll do that, I wouldn't be surprise if this fight will have a bigger PPV revenue compared to Ryan vs Tank Davis.

I'm sure it will, Ryan still has that box office draw, but he badly needs this win to keep his drawing power if he loses against Haney, with no handicap clauses and he loses like the way he losses against Gervonta, that would be the end of Ryan's popularity, there's a big possibility that this fight will have a rematch if the match gets too close, but if the fight gets too close, I suspect the judges will favor Ryan because Ryan Garcia is a big attraction and a big drawer, they might try to retain that aura and we all know there's a lot of politics in boxing and some judges are influenced by reputation.
If the fight is too close I would like to do it again, but it should be a great fight because only great fights deserve a second version or a rematch.

[btc_angela]

Having a brawl during the press but the fight will still continue, that would be a great scenario to seek more attention, just like on Mayweather's exhibition fight press against Logan Paul IIRC. More drama will create more attention, and could potentially create more money, and if they'll do that, I wouldn't be surprise if this fight will have a bigger PPV revenue compared to Ryan vs Tank Davis.

I'm sure it will, Ryan still has that box office draw, but he badly needs this win to keep his drawing power if he loses against Haney, with no handicap clauses and he loses like the way he losses against Gervonta, that would be the end of Ryan's popularity, there's a big possibility that this fight will have a rematch if the match gets too close, but if the fight gets too close, I suspect the judges will favor Ryan because Ryan Garcia is a big attraction and a big drawer, they might try to retain that aura and we all know there's a lot of politics in boxing and some judges are influenced by reputation.
If the fight is too close I would like to do it again, but it should be a great fight because only great fights deserve a second version or a rematch.

It might take a hit on his box office draw, but what we appreciate of Ryan is that he keeps on pushing himself to fight the best. Yes, I don't think that Haney will have that kind of clauses here, and if there were, we will soon fight out and if might affect fans and says that they try to used Tanks tactic against Ryan and weight drain him, it will not look good for Haney.

Obviously, if there is controversy, like it's too close call then we will love to see another fight. And just to let everyone know, Ryan is one of the 4 kings that has two fights with the rest of them. All other guys haven't meant yet, so Ryan is the only one who has the balls to face two, Tank Davis and Devin Haney.

[Getmon]

Ryan Garcia officially started training for his match with Devin Haney.

https://twitter.com/gizmo_277/status/1758290550510506122

Derrick James will have his full attention on Garcia after his former boxers Errol Spence, Jermell Charlo and Anthony Joshua left. This match with Haney is difficult for the two of them. James has to demonstrate that he is an extraordinary mentor. Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

[Questat]

Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

I don't see this fight ending in KO in favor of Haney. The champion understands that Garcia has a high KO rate, that means his strategy will be the same, he will be using his quickness to score and will look Garcia like an amateur.  If that would be the scenario of the fight, then Garcia's training is not effective, it's a big gamble for him and his trainer, but if he could have a competitive fight even if he losses, I think people would still be interested in watching him since he is the underdog of this fight, and of course, his trainer will keep the job.

[bbc.reporter]

Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

I don't see this fight ending in KO in favor of Haney. The champion understands that Garcia has a high KO rate, that means his strategy will be the same, he will be using his quickness to score and will look Garcia like an amateur.  If that would be the scenario of the fight, then Garcia's training is not effective, it's a big gamble for him and his trainer, but if he could have a competitive fight even if he losses, I think people would still be interested in watching him since he is the underdog of this fight, and of course, his trainer will keep the job.

Ryan Garcia is also young and quick. What Devin Haney will be using is the philly shell, very much similar to the boxing style of Floyd Mayweather, however, a type of the philly shell that is not very good like Floyd hehehe.

In any case, it appears that Devin Haney is not small for the super lightweight division. I thought King Ry would be taller than him and also with the longer reach. They almost have the same height and Haney has 1 inches longer in reach.

[freedomgo]

Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

I don't see this fight ending in KO in favor of Haney. The champion understands that Garcia has a high KO rate, that means his strategy will be the same, he will be using his quickness to score and will look Garcia like an amateur.  If that would be the scenario of the fight, then Garcia's training is not effective, it's a big gamble for him and his trainer, but if he could have a competitive fight even if he losses, I think people would still be interested in watching him since he is the underdog of this fight, and of course, his trainer will keep the job.

Ryan Garcia is also young and quick. What Devin Haney will be using is the philly shell, very much similar to the boxing style of Floyd Mayweather, however, a type of the philly shell that is not very good like Floyd hehehe.

If we haven't notice on Ryan Garcia's last fight, he was also using the shoulder roll or philly shell (mayweather style). Although Haney had probably mastered it, but seeing Ryan Garcia using the same strategy might help him improve his defense. Well, we will see if it will work against Haney though, although Ryan might be quick ( I agree) but I believe he is flat footed so that strategy might be fully working against Haney.

In any case, it appears that Devin Haney is not small for the super lightweight division. I thought King Ry would be taller than him and also with the longer reach. They almost have the same height and Haney has 1 inches longer in reach.

And Haney probably had the edge with his built as he looks strong with full of muscles wrap around his body.

Will see this one for sure and for sure this will be the toughest fight of King Ry.

[inthelongrun]

This is still unbelievable to me. I thought Ryan was only bluffing earlier. Is Kingry cashing out and then quitting boxing after getting embarrassed by Haney? I cannot imagine how Ryan can win this fight. Haney is not known as a knockout artist but I guess this will be the first time he scores a stoppage as a champion. Oscar De La Hoya and Bernard Hopkins must be laughing at this. I believe this is the last fight of Ryan under GBP. And he won't be that marketable anymore if Haney stops him. Maybe Ryan will also make an excuse later to cancel this fight just like Fury.

Yes, names like Rolly Romero and even Pitbull Cruz was being thrown around Ryan and even he confirms or denies those fights. I think it's more of cashing in with his popularity and doesn't care about his 0 or losses any more as obviously he had one already. Or maybe GBP or Oscar is trying to satisfy Ryan Garcia. For sure we all have heard that him and Ryan are not seeing eye to eye. So maybe to please Ryan, he had to deliver big money fights for him. And perhaps Oscar has learn from his previous cash cow Canelo that he needed as promotional manager to give what this fighters want and that is big money fights for their ego and lifestyles. I don't think that Ryan will cancel this fight, everything has been set up including that shove he did on Devin Haney on Super bowl night.

If Oscar is trying to satisfy Ryan it means protecting him against a boring but very technical fighter. This is complete suicide IMO. If Ryan wants a big-money fight it means bringing the easiest champion of the division, Rolly Romero. But it won't be easy since PBC is not giving Romero for free against a rival promotion. Hopefully, no one is quitting on the said date. But as I said, it won't be surprising if this fight gets canceled.

I really think Oscar was left without a choice on Canelo. I believe Oscar worked 100% for Canelo. The issue was DAZN demanding big names for Canelo and rejecting Oscar and Canelo's list of opponents. In the end, DAZN gave up on Canelo's stand. It did not want Canelo to leave the network so they signed another deal but this time without Oscar's promotion involved. And then Matchroom as DAZN's main partner became Canelo's promoter. So it's like Eddie Hearn stealing Canelo out of GBP.

This is still unbelievable to me. I thought Ryan was only bluffing earlier. Is Kingry cashing out and then quitting boxing after getting embarrassed by Haney? I cannot imagine how Ryan can win this fight. Haney is not known as a knockout artist but I guess this will be the first time he scores a stoppage as a champion. Oscar De La Hoya and Bernard Hopkins must be laughing at this. I believe this is the last fight of Ryan under GBP. And he won't be that marketable anymore if Haney stops him. Maybe Ryan will also make an excuse later to cancel this fight just like Fury.

We can't really say, he quit boxing because of his mental health though. But if he lost to Tank take a knee and was not embarrassed, then I think it will not getting worst than that. He was knockout for the first time in his career and others says that he quit.

So not sure if Haney will have that kind of performance against him. This is 140 lbs, no more weight drain for Ryan although I think Haney is still the bigger fighter in the fight as he can rehydrate to even 160 lbs. I think he can still make fights even if he losses this one . At least if you compare him to Tank who still doesn't want to fight the best and they wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

We'll see. My mind is still questioning why Ryan is fighting Haney. I think it will be more embarrassing if Haney knocks out Ryan. Haney is not heavy-handed which means he needs to land hundreds of punches to put down Ryan. Ryan's face could be blooded and disfigured just like Kambosos or Teofimo's face because Kambosos' punch is not heavy enough to score a KO or TKO.

[TravelMug]

Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

I don't see this fight ending in KO in favor of Haney. The champion understands that Garcia has a high KO rate, that means his strategy will be the same, he will be using his quickness to score and will look Garcia like an amateur.  If that would be the scenario of the fight, then Garcia's training is not effective, it's a big gamble for him and his trainer, but if he could have a competitive fight even if he losses, I think people would still be interested in watching him since he is the underdog of this fight, and of course, his trainer will keep the job.

Ryan Garcia is also young and quick. What Devin Haney will be using is the philly shell, very much similar to the boxing style of Floyd Mayweather, however, a type of the philly shell that is not very good like Floyd hehehe.

Both of them are very young, so that negates everything. But I do agree, it's the defense that will help Haney, but I don't think that he has the best Philly defense. Floyd's one of the best and his uncle to carry that one and I don't see anyone emulating it.

In any case, it appears that Devin Haney is not small for the super lightweight division. I thought King Ry would be taller than him and also with the longer reach. They almost have the same height and Haney has 1 inches longer in reach.

And probably that's why they say that Haney is pillow fisted when he was at 135 lbs because he is tall and skinny and have long reach. But moving up and adding 5 pounds makes a lot of difference specially if they can rehydrate and fill his body at fight night.

[yazher]

This bout is hard to predict because both boxers still lots of rooms for improvement and probably they have prepared and train for good combinations to surprise their opponent. If Garcia shows more power in this fight with his lethal punch combined with amazing speed, Haney will have hard time to defend against it and it may lead to his defeat unless he has also prepared some unusual technique to surprise Garcia in the later rounds.

[coin-investor]

This bout is hard to predict because both boxers still lots of rooms for improvement and probably they have prepared and train for good combinations to surprise their opponent. If Garcia shows more power in this fight with his lethal punch combined with amazing speed, Haney will have hard time to defend against it and it may lead to his defeat unless he has also prepared some unusual technique to surprise Garcia in the later rounds.

I don't think it's hard to predict, Ryan Garcia is a clear underdog here, Garcia may be good but he has weaknesses, whereas Haney almost perfected his craft, there is a saying that you cannot beat what you can't hit, Haney is one of the boxers that is so hard to hit he had proven it on his matches against Kambosos and Prograis, these two fighters are strong puncher but their punches cannot even land on Haney's cheek.
I see the same scenario against Garcia, Ryan should come out with a better strategy to beat Haney, but Haney is so good at shifting his strategy that this will make big problems for Garcia.

[Shamm]

This bout is hard to predict because both boxers still lots of rooms for improvement and probably they have prepared and train for good combinations to surprise their opponent. If Garcia shows more power in this fight with his lethal punch combined with amazing speed, Haney will have hard time to defend against it and it may lead to his defeat unless he has also prepared some unusual technique to surprise Garcia in the later rounds.

I don't think it's hard to predict, Ryan Garcia is a clear underdog here, Garcia may be good but he has weaknesses, whereas Haney almost perfected his craft, there is a saying that you cannot beat what you can't hit, Haney is one of the boxers that is so hard to hit he had proven it on his matches against Kambosos and Prograis, these two fighters are strong puncher but their punches cannot even land on Haney's cheek.
I see the same scenario against Garcia, Ryan should come out with a better strategy to beat Haney, but Haney is so good at shifting his strategy that this will make big problems for Garcia.

Every Fighter has a weakness but they can overcome that weakness if they will counter it. They must not think that they have a weakness then for sure inside the ring they can make a good fight.  Although Garcia is the underdog here then one thing for sure he will do his very best to protect himself in order to prevent such easy loss. Maybe he can't win but if he try his best and make a good strategy then there's a chance . Divenhaney  is a strong boxer we know that and he has the advantages in this fight so this must be a plus points for him.

[bittraffic]

This bout is hard to predict because both boxers still lots of rooms for improvement and probably they have prepared and train for good combinations to surprise their opponent. If Garcia shows more power in this fight with his lethal punch combined with amazing speed, Haney will have hard time to defend against it and it may lead to his defeat unless he has also prepared some unusual technique to surprise Garcia in the later rounds.

I don't think it's hard to predict, Ryan Garcia is a clear underdog here, Garcia may be good but he has weaknesses, whereas Haney almost perfected his craft, there is a saying that you cannot beat what you can't hit, Haney is one of the boxers that is so hard to hit he had proven it on his matches against Kambosos and Prograis, these two fighters are strong puncher but their punches cannot even land on Haney's cheek.
I see the same scenario against Garcia, Ryan should come out with a better strategy to beat Haney, but Haney is so good at shifting his strategy that this will make big problems for Garcia.

Every Fighter has a weakness but they can overcome that weakness if they will counter it. They must not think that they have a weakness then for sure inside the ring they can make a good fight.  Although Garcia is the underdog here then one thing for sure he will do his very best to protect himself in order to prevent such easy loss. Maybe he can't win but if he try his best and make a good strategy then there's a chance . Divenhaney  is a strong boxer we know that and he has the advantages in this fight so this must be a plus points for him.

Ryan is a stringer fighter IMO. He also has a fast hand, I think we can't rule out him winning this fight if Haney fights him head-to-head. But this isn't the way Haney fights so he is going around Garcia to get a better advantage.

Before the announcement of their fight, Ryan had been going to different interviews on many podcasts, though he wasn't promoting anything it was kind of very timely that he was doing it. And then a day or two the fight was announced. And then the next day, the two made a real drama to promote the fight. Seemed organized.

[aioc]

Ryan Garcia officially started training for his match with Devin Haney.

https://twitter.com/gizmo_277/status/1758290550510506122

Derrick James will have his full attention on Garcia after his former boxers Errol Spence, Jermell Charlo and Anthony Joshua left. This match with Haney is difficult for the two of them. James has to demonstrate that he is an extraordinary mentor. Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

They are both desperate to win this match, and it's not going to be an easy task, they are fighting an undisputed champion who has vast experience and has beaten great champions, Derrick must bring out the best in Ryan Garcia, his career as a trainer depends so much on this fight, the fight is still two months to go but right now there's a lot of controversial like the face-off incident was staged, which I doubt because they don't have to do this as the fight will still sell with thrash talk or no thrash talk.

[Baofeng]

Ryan Garcia officially started training for his match with Devin Haney.

https://twitter.com/gizmo_277/status/1758290550510506122

Derrick James will have his full attention on Garcia after his former boxers Errol Spence, Jermell Charlo and Anthony Joshua left. This match with Haney is difficult for the two of them. James has to demonstrate that he is an extraordinary mentor. Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

They are both desperate to win this match, and it's not going to be an easy task, they are fighting an undisputed champion who has vast experience and has beaten great champions, Derrick must bring out the best in Ryan Garcia, his career as a trainer depends so much on this fight, the fight is still two months to go but right now there's a lot of controversial like the face-off incident was staged, which I doubt because they don't have to do this as the fight will still sell with thrash talk or no thrash talk.

This fight is not for undisputed though, it will be just for Haney's WBC belt that he got from defeating Prograis recently. And I don't think that even if James as a trainer losses this one for Ryan, he will not get any clients. There are a lot of boxers that need good trainer and I think Derrick James can still get some new boxers under his wing in the aftermath of this fight.

But I do agree that he will really need to put everything for Ryan Garcia here. It's no easy task to beat Haney and we have seen flaws in Ryan that James try to improved in his last fight, but still a lot of work needs to be done for Ryan and I think those subtle changes might be seen in this big fight.

[bbc.reporter]

Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

I don't see this fight ending in KO in favor of Haney. The champion understands that Garcia has a high KO rate, that means his strategy will be the same, he will be using his quickness to score and will look Garcia like an amateur.  If that would be the scenario of the fight, then Garcia's training is not effective, it's a big gamble for him and his trainer, but if he could have a competitive fight even if he losses, I think people would still be interested in watching him since he is the underdog of this fight, and of course, his trainer will keep the job.

Ryan Garcia is also young and quick. What Devin Haney will be using is the philly shell, very much similar to the boxing style of Floyd Mayweather, however, a type of the philly shell that is not very good like Floyd hehehe.

If we haven't notice on Ryan Garcia's last fight, he was also using the shoulder roll or philly shell (mayweather style). Although Haney had probably mastered it, but seeing Ryan Garcia using the same strategy might help him improve his defense. Well, we will see if it will work against Haney though, although Ryan might be quick ( I agree) but I believe he is flat footed so that strategy might be fully working against Haney.

In any case, it appears that Devin Haney is not small for the super lightweight division. I thought King Ry would be taller than him and also with the longer reach. They almost have the same height and Haney has 1 inches longer in reach.

And Haney probably had the edge with his built as he looks strong with full of muscles wrap around his body.

Will see this one for sure and for sure this will be the toughest fight of King Ry.

King Ry was using the philly shell tactic because we can be quite certain that he wanted to avoid the Tank Davis Tyson power punch to his jaw hehehe. He might need to use this tactic against Devin Haney, I reckon. According to someone he has fists of pillows. This is very funny.

Also, King Ry changed his trainer. We might witness a new style and use different tactics in the ring. I also wish this fight will be 12 rounds of action and end with a split decision.

[bitterguy28]

There is no Devin Haney versus Gervonta Davis. There is no Ryan Garcia versus Jose Ramirez. Because Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia bargained a deal for an April 20 match in Las Vegas. This is not the match fans are expecting but this is a great challenge for Ryan Garcia. A fighter that knocks opponents and the other is a defense technician.


Reported from https://www.badlefthook.com/2024/2/9/24067330/devin-haney-vs-ryan-garcia-deal-reportedly-done-april-20-boxing-news-2024

This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.

[Questat]

King Ry was using the philly shell tactic because we can be quite certain that he wanted to avoid the Tank Davis Tyson power punch to his jaw hehehe. He might need to use this tactic against Devin Haney, I reckon. According to someone he has fists of pillows. This is very funny.

Haney is a power puncher but not so aggressive, so he might not use it a lot of time as he is the one who is challenging the champion. And we know how good Haney in the ring, the only way for Garcia to beat him so he'll not lose in the scoring is to hurt him and eventually KO him, which no one has even done it yet.

Also, King Ry changed his trainer. We might witness a new style and use different tactics in the ring. I also wish this fight will be 12 rounds of action and end with a split decision.

That must be a great decision since he won his last fight, although it wasn't that impressive, he needs to improve, train harder since he's up against one of the best fighters in the world, the best in his division now. Garcia for KO, I think I'm gonna risk on that.

[Getmon]

This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.

A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.

[btc_angela]

This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.

A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

It's obvious, Haney is by far a huge favorite in this fight, so smart money will be on this side. But for those Ryan Garcia fans, they will definitely support him

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.

I think Devin Haney is no feather fisted in this weight class, perhaps in the 135 lbs because he had to squeeze his frame at that weight. But here at 140 lbs, and against Prograis in which he knock him down, I think Haney could have somewhat had more power as compare of him competing at lower classes before. Maybe even his chin has improved a lot as well because of the added weight.

[Hypnosis00]

This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.

A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

It's obvious, Haney is by far a huge favorite in this fight, so smart money will be on this side. But for those Ryan Garcia fans, they will definitely support him

Haney is the huge favorite, we can't argue to that as the betting odds will prove it.

Haney vs Garcia Odds
Boxer   Odds
Devin Haney   -500
Ryan Garcia   +370

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/haney-vs-garcia-odds-props-betting-prediction/

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.

I think Devin Haney is no feather fisted in this weight class, perhaps in the 135 lbs because he had to squeeze his frame at that weight. But here at 140 lbs, and against Prograis in which he knock him down, I think Haney could have somewhat had more power as compare of him competing at lower classes before. Maybe even his chin has improved a lot as well because of the added weight.

Well, we will see if Ryan could give him some competitive fight. This fight based on the experts is just one-sided, and despite the popularity of Ryan Garcia, he was given +370 to win. That's a huge insult to his capabilities. However, as you said, for Ryan Garcia's supporters, they'll take it as an opportunity.

[electronicash]

This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.

A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

It's obvious, Haney is by far a huge favorite in this fight, so smart money will be on this side. But for those Ryan Garcia fans, they will definitely support him

Haney is the huge favorite, we can't argue to that as the betting odds will prove it.

Haney vs Garcia Odds
Boxer   Odds
Devin Haney   -500
Ryan Garcia   +370

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/haney-vs-garcia-odds-props-betting-prediction/

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.

I think Devin Haney is no feather fisted in this weight class, perhaps in the 135 lbs because he had to squeeze his frame at that weight. But here at 140 lbs, and against Prograis in which he knock him down, I think Haney could have somewhat had more power as compare of him competing at lower classes before. Maybe even his chin has improved a lot as well because of the added weight.

Well, we will see if Ryan could give him some competitive fight. This fight based on the experts is just one-sided, and despite the popularity of Ryan Garcia, he was given +370 to win. That's a huge insult to his capabilities. However, as you said, for Ryan Garcia's supporters, they'll take it as an opportunity.

this is where more people will lose when they are just looking forward to how much they will win betting for the underdog. yes they will make money if ryan wins but thats a big IF. we know ryan has the knockout punch but because he is fighting haney who will prefer to engage from a distance, ryan will just be chasing haney the whole time.

haney has had this habit since he became a champ. he wouldn't want someone like ryan will get the belt. with this kind of strategy, haney defeated loma and kamboso twice. and ryan not hitting haney will just frustrate him which he'd be careless along teh way.

[coin-investor]

Well, we will see if Ryan could give him some competitive fight. This fight based on the experts is just one-sided, and despite the popularity of Ryan Garcia, he was given +370 to win. That's a huge insult to his capabilities. However, as you said, for Ryan Garcia's supporters, they'll take it as an opportunity.

If you're a fan of Ryan Garcia it is an insult, but if you're a bettor that's a fact, backed by stats, analysis, and past performance of both fighters, no doubt Ryan is a good boxer but on what level? In boxing, there's a level to this and it was proven in his fight against Gervonta that you don't give a fighter an A level who is making his first legit championship fight against a fighter who has over 10 championship fights, the discrepancies is pretty obvious.

In this match, Haney is the A-level here, in boxing or any contact sports there is a saying " To be a man you gonna beat the man" Haney did it twice against Kambosos where he wrestled the crown, and Lomachencko who is considered to be one of the pounds for pound great so Haney is considered the top favorite here.

For Ryan to claim that he is King Rye like what fans like to call him, he needs to convincingly beat Haney, which I doubt he can because his offense is pretty obvious, he sets up the jab so he can deliver the right hook, something that Haney can easily read.

And another thing, Garcia has never fought a fighter who can shift from a normal stance to an unorthodox one effectively, Haney may not be a knockout artist but he is one boxer who can make a good boxer like Ryan an ordinary boxer.

[Kemarit]

And we have a venue, I also thought that this will be in Las Vegas, but it's not, the fight is going to take place in Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

However, on Wednesday night, Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy promotions - who represent Garcia and so are staging the fight - announced that the Haney clash will instead take place in New York.

The 19,000 capacity Barclays Center, home to the Brooklyn Nets, will host the event.

https://talksport.com/sport/1760503/surprise-venue-devin-haney-ryan-garcia-gervonta-davis-deleted/

Still a good venue and the sitting capacity is big and I wouldn't be surprised if this fight is sold out already and then the PPV numbers as well. Are we going to see a million PPV buys here? or least get close to the Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia with 1.1-1.2 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, the biggest fight last year, even bigger than Canelo fight or Crawford vs Spence.

[TravelMug]

^^ If I'm not mistaken, Haney could have the advantage if the fight is going to be in Vegas. But regardless though, it could have been the capacity of the venue that why they move it to New York. And I think their fans are going to travel as Garcia's fanbase is LA. Seen some footage of Ryan Garcia in Twitter, fast hands, but it's just a matter on whether he can executed it against the defense of Haney. And at 140 lbs, both could be in the best shape of their lives as they will be no problems with weight management specially with Ryan as he had problems with 135 lbs when he fought Tank Davis. But against Duarte, we can see that his body is build like a natural jr. welterweight.

[Oasisman]

Ryan hasn’t been the same since his loss to Tank. He’s beefing with YouTubers, flirting with podcast hosts, trying to collect money for his Dad, and is reportedly nearly broke after becoming addicted to gambling and losing all his money. At the rate he’s spiraling downward, he may be destined to be a statistic. Just a few months ago he was one of the biggest rising stars in boxing…

What an unfortunate turn of events for Ryan's career. It was indeed a devastating loss he got against Davis. The problem was, he was not really a true champion, thus fighting against an elite fighter does exposed him in a very bad way.
If all these rumors we've heard about him were true, he'd definitely going to fall and a loss to Haney might be the start of the end of his career.

[Jating]

And we have a venue, I also thought that this will be in Las Vegas, but it's not, the fight is going to take place in Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

However, on Wednesday night, Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy promotions - who represent Garcia and so are staging the fight - announced that the Haney clash will instead take place in New York.

The 19,000 capacity Barclays Center, home to the Brooklyn Nets, will host the event.

https://talksport.com/sport/1760503/surprise-venue-devin-haney-ryan-garcia-gervonta-davis-deleted/

Still a good venue and the sitting capacity is big and I wouldn't be surprised if this fight is sold out already and then the PPV numbers as well. Are we going to see a million PPV buys here? or least get close to the Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia with 1.1-1.2 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, the biggest fight last year, even bigger than Canelo fight or Crawford vs Spence.

Las Vegas though should be the home town of Ryan, he has been trainer or have been seen with Floyd. And we all know that Floyd resides in Vegas and so I think it will be beneficial for his fans from LA as it is very near proximity and they can just drove off to Vegas and see Ryan fight.

And speaking of Barclays center, it was the venue where Tank Davis fought Rolly Romero and they did this numbers.


https://twitter.com/NukeUndisputed/status/1760479596661625295

I think they can easily surpassed this numbers, that time Rolly is still relatively unknown and not a champion and yet it was a block buster fight. So what's more of Ryan with his huge following and Haney's belt on the line.

[Baofeng]

Interesting development,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1761166060751929635

Ryan says that his fight should be in Vegas and obviously he is against the fight going into Barclays center. Hmm, I smell something here, does it mean that he is going to pull from the fight because the venue doesn't suit him the best?

But I do agree though, there is no tax in Vegas as far as I know and it's all about the gambling and the money that it can generate because of this said fight.

[btc_angela]

If this is a done deal, meaning Ryan Garcia had sign the contract, then he can't just simply back out from the plans of his promoter and Haney's camp. That will be unprofessional for him. I'm just thinking that maybe he can squeeze more money if the fight is going to happen in Las Vegas.

But regardless of where the fight is going to happen, if he thinks he is a cash cow as proved by his fight against Tank Davis, then definitely he can do it against a dance partner like Haney. I think Devin can also bring his fans in the Barclays center and pay that live tickets.

[crwth]

Hi there OP, there is already a thread for this one created ahead of this so i think it's better to close this one and discuss matters pertaining to this fight in a single thread.

Thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484623.msg63638382#msg63638382

This topic has already been closed.


I know that both Haney and Garcia are somewhat similar in height, but this is going to be a great fight for the WBC super lightweight title. Haney might have an advantage with the number of matches but the percentage of knockouts by Garcia is a lot more, IMO it can be with Garcia's advantage. We will never know until it happens.

[Yaunfitda]

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1761166060751929635

And with this, he is going to be troll by the fans of Haney as if he is like doesn't want to fight or afraid of facing Haney now. And I'm not sure why Ryan Garcia is talking about business when his job is to fight and bet the opponent in front of him. Let his promoter do their job, he says he wanted to fight the best Oscar gave him that opportunity for now and for sure there is big money in the table for him. So that is good enough for him and he should stop and just train very hard here because he is in for a tough night against Haney here. No need for Ryan to worry the venue, he will have his guaranteed purse for sure when he sign the contract to fight Haney.

[OgNasty]

I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley.  He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA.  I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something.  I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try.  This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need. 

[btc_angela]

I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley.  He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA.  I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something.  I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try.  This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need. 

I think if I'm not mistaken, O'Malley was the first one to call up Ryan or something to the effect that he can defeat a pro boxer. O'Malley is going on the route of Connor, running his mouth and trying to be the next face of MMA.

And with that, Ryan will not shy on that kind of trash talking in the media, he has been dub as a social media King Ry. But in any case, he has a difficult fight ahead of him in Haney. He needs to focus on this fight if he wanted to have his name in the discussions to be one of the great not just known to be in a social media boxer.

[electronicash]

I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley.  He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA.  I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something.  I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try.  This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need. 

I think if I'm not mistaken, O'Malley was the first one to call up Ryan or something to the effect that he can defeat a pro boxer. O'Malley is going on the route of Connor, running his mouth and trying to be the next face of MMA.

And with that, Ryan will not shy on that kind of trash talking in the media, he has been dub as a social media King Ry. But in any case, he has a difficult fight ahead of him in Haney. He needs to focus on this fight if he wanted to have his name in the discussions to be one of the great not just known to be in a social media boxer.

nothing yet is agreed for both to fight. if Dana permits, i guess it's cool to see another cross-fight like this. Dana already wasted his chance with Francis Ngannou, hope he will not miss it this time.

Ryan i think will have a higher rate of knocking out Suga than Haney. Omalley afaik likes to engage which is what Ryan likes doing in the middle. he will be unlucky once again if Sean gets him first just like Tank did. Ryan still has a fast hand and all it takes is just one hit to Suga.

[serjent05]

If this is a done deal, meaning Ryan Garcia had sign the contract, then he can't just simply back out from the plans of his promoter and Haney's camp. That will be unprofessional for him. I'm just thinking that maybe he can squeeze more money if the fight is going to happen in Las Vegas.

If Ryan had signed the contract and back down, he might face some penalties for the damages done of him backing out.  I don't think Ryan would like to pay some penalties when he himself is looking for money after he lost his fortune on gambling (as the earlier reply stated).

I know that both Haney and Garcia are somewhat similar in height, but this is going to be a great fight for the WBC super lightweight title. Haney might have an advantage with the number of matches but the percentage of knockouts by Garcia is a lot more, IMO it can be with Garcia's advantage. We will never know until it happens.

Haney has the advantage, IMO, just look at their body mass after the rehydration, I do not think that the opponent KO ratio is definitive for the fight against Haney, Haney is a tough one to crack especially his defence and counterpunches.  If I am not mistaken, Ryan has this tendency to become reckless when pursuing a KO, and that might be the biggest disadvantage of Ryan Garcia in this fight.

[Jating]

How time flies, we are now in the Kick-off conference, so much for Las Vegas venue, it's going to happen in NYC and Ryan has no problem with it.



So it's really on, we might here more trash talking, as Oscar said, "still" or a "new" champion in April 20th. Just a question on who wanted it more.

Haney said that this is personal now, specially if it involves religion. And then Bill Haney involves Floyd, as he claim that he Floyd shows the sparring session with Devin Haney and then they suspect that him and Floyd are giving him tips on how to beat Devin.

And as expected, Bill Haney and Ryan's dad, Henry Garcia is also doing the promotion. 

[OgNasty]

I don’t know anything about Devin Haney, but Ryan Garcia seems more and more cringe in every clip I see of him. I think for that reason I’m probably going to go with Haney to win this fight. I think the Tank fight broke Ryan Garcia mentally. I wouldn’t put money behind him vs anyone until he gets another win under his belt.

[Yaunfitda]

I don’t know anything about Devin Haney, but Ryan Garcia seems more and more cringe in every clip I see of him. I think for that reason I’m probably going to go with Haney to win this fight. I think the Tank fight broke Ryan Garcia mentally. I wouldn’t put money behind him vs anyone until he gets another win under his belt.

There were even post yesterday that Ryan is somewhat smoking or high, and so that's another cringe moment for you. And Devin Haney says that he won't show up to the press kick off presser because Ryan is just wasting his time. But the did show up and we have a entertaining press conference when Ryan goes up with 3 girls, even Oscar was laughing and when it's time for his mouth to open, he says that he is serious and talks about God, Lol, talking about being high. He is a huge underdog here, if he loses this one, he will be 0-2 amongst his contemporaries, and I don't know if he can get a belt at this weight class. Maybe not against Haney or Teo Lopez, perhaps Rolly he has a chance or even against a tough Subriel Matias.

[Kemarit]

I don’t know anything about Devin Haney, but Ryan Garcia seems more and more cringe in every clip I see of him. I think for that reason I’m probably going to go with Haney to win this fight. I think the Tank fight broke Ryan Garcia mentally. I wouldn’t put money behind him vs anyone until he gets another win under his belt.

It's just typical for Ryan Garcia to act this way, he has tweet about his wife fighting as well, and he says that they should pay here a minimum $500,000 LOL. Yes, Haney is the huge favorite here so it make sense for smart bettors to go for him. ML is not that attracted though, but there are a lot options that can give us a good return if we go on Haney here.

Ryan has a history of mental breakdown before and that's why he quit for a while before making a comeback and taking a new trainer in Goosen. However, when he lost to Tank Davis, the switches again, this time he is under the tutelage of Derrick James who trains Errol Spence and a bunch of others.

[Russlenat]

Ryan has a history of mental breakdown before and that's why he quit for a while before making a comeback and taking a new trainer in Goosen. However, when he lost to Tank Davis, the switches again, this time he is under the tutelage of Derrick James who trains Errol Spence and a bunch of others.

Haney could use Ryan's weakness to his advantage. I hope he'll do some trash-talking too so Ryan will be distracted going into the fight. Well, as for technique and skills, the edge all points to Haney, so there's no reason here to take a higher risk by betting on Ryan when we know he will not win. The choices here would only go down as to whether Ryan will be knocked out or will lose in 12 rounds. I think the last option is more likely to be the scenario.

[robelneo]

They had a second face-off yesterday in New York and as expected Ryan is very aggressive, Haney is just cool, he knows he's the favorite he knows Ryan has a lot of envy in what he has achieved, Ryan on this face-off tries to involve the elder Haney but it seems this time the father and son tandem is just cool.

In this video, Bernard Hopkins, one of Ryan's promoters is giving the elder Haney a shard look while the two are having their thrash talk, Ryan is full of anger I have never seen him this angry, he was not like this on Gervonta, it's good that he did not push Devin Haney, there's a lot to watch out for in this fight, a lot of dramas and a lot thrash talking.

https://www.facebook.com/mmafighting/videos/1131595887996176

[inthelongrun]

^^ If I'm not mistaken, Haney could have the advantage if the fight is going to be in Vegas. But regardless though, it could have been the capacity of the venue that why they move it to New York. And I think their fans are going to travel as Garcia's fanbase is LA. Seen some footage of Ryan Garcia in Twitter, fast hands, but it's just a matter on whether he can executed it against the defense of Haney. And at 140 lbs, both could be in the best shape of their lives as they will be no problems with weight management specially with Ryan as he had problems with 135 lbs when he fought Tank Davis. But against Duarte, we can see that his body is build like a natural jr. welterweight.

Both are from LA but Haney is residing in Vegas so maybe it is an advantage for him if the fight is held there. But I think Ryan is banking on Vegas for the expensive ticket sales. The venue will be smaller in Vegas but it is expected to be more expensive which is why it can generate more money than the other venues.

It's not that hard to look good in training. Even none pros can be good in videos too. Ryan did not looked fast in his last fight at 140. But we'll see if there are improvements. What is clear though is Haney looks good, not in training but in his last fight against an experienced 2 time champion.

[Viscore]

They had a second face-off yesterday in New York and as expected Ryan is very aggressive, Haney is just cool, he knows he's the favorite he knows Ryan has a lot of envy in what he has achieved, Ryan on this face-off tries to involve the elder Haney but it seems this time the father and son tandem is just cool.

In this video, Bernard Hopkins, one of Ryan's promoters is giving the elder Haney a shard look while the two are having their thrash talk, Ryan is full of anger I have never seen him this angry, he was not like this on Gervonta, it's good that he did not push Devin Haney, there's a lot to watch out for in this fight, a lot of dramas and a lot thrash talking.

https://www.facebook.com/mmafighting/videos/1131595887996176

Who is that guy behind Ryan Garcia? Is that LeBron James? LOL...

Ryan knows how to sell this fight; that's all I can say. We all know that Haney is the better fighter here, so him trying to be aggressive during face-off does not guarantee that he'll be aggressive too during the fight. Well, I think he should be because Haney will just roll with his defense and score. If he does not put pressure on Haney, the fight will end up being boring, and he doesn't have a chance to win as it could be another UD by Haney.

[Baofeng]

They had a second face-off yesterday in New York and as expected Ryan is very aggressive, Haney is just cool, he knows he's the favorite he knows Ryan has a lot of envy in what he has achieved, Ryan on this face-off tries to involve the elder Haney but it seems this time the father and son tandem is just cool.

In this video, Bernard Hopkins, one of Ryan's promoters is giving the elder Haney a shard look while the two are having their thrash talk, Ryan is full of anger I have never seen him this angry, he was not like this on Gervonta, it's good that he did not push Devin Haney, there's a lot to watch out for in this fight, a lot of dramas and a lot thrash talking.

https://www.facebook.com/mmafighting/videos/1131595887996176

Who is that guy behind Ryan Garcia? Is that LeBron James? LOL...

Nah, probably one of his body guards. Lol. 

Ryan knows how to sell this fight; that's all I can say. We all know that Haney is the better fighter here, so him trying to be aggressive during face-off does not guarantee that he'll be aggressive too during the fight. Well, I think he should be because Haney will just roll with his defense and score. If he does not put pressure on Haney, the fight will end up being boring, and he doesn't have a chance to win as it could be another UD by Haney.

Sure, but the thing with Ryan is that he says differently, I mean he tell us that he is looking to cement his legacy or at least make one. But we all know that this is just a whole act in front of the camera. His persona might be very different in public. And fans love him for that, the trash talking and the Haney's too, Bill Haney though is funny with his attack on Ryan's Dad that I don't think they will consider it personal although Haney says that he like Ryan before, but now it's going to be personal for him as well.

[Kelvinid]

^^ If I'm not mistaken, Haney could have the advantage if the fight is going to be in Vegas. But regardless though, it could have been the capacity of the venue that why they move it to New York. And I think their fans are going to travel as Garcia's fanbase is LA. Seen some footage of Ryan Garcia in Twitter, fast hands, but it's just a matter on whether he can executed it against the defense of Haney. And at 140 lbs, both could be in the best shape of their lives as they will be no problems with weight management specially with Ryan as he had problems with 135 lbs when he fought Tank Davis. But against Duarte, we can see that his body is build like a natural jr. welterweight.

Both are from LA but Haney is residing in Vegas so maybe it is an advantage for him if the fight is held there. But I think Ryan is banking on Vegas for the expensive ticket sales. The venue will be smaller in Vegas but it is expected to be more expensive which is why it can generate more money than the other venues.

It's not that hard to look good in training. Even none pros can be good in videos too. Ryan did not looked fast in his last fight at 140. But we'll see if there are improvements. What is clear though is Haney looks good, not in training but in his last fight against an experienced 2 time champion.

Definitely no question about the conditioning of Haney, as he always comes out on top in his fights. Ryan Garcia should be the concern here because even though he won his last fight, he wasn't really dominating his opponent from the very start. I was a bit nervous watching that fight, thinking that Ryan might lose. Good thing he was able to develop a new defensive strategy while still keeping his power. But honestly, I'm not sure if his strategy will work against Haney or if he can make the right adjustments to win.

[Viscore]

They had a second face-off yesterday in New York and as expected Ryan is very aggressive, Haney is just cool, he knows he's the favorite he knows Ryan has a lot of envy in what he has achieved, Ryan on this face-off tries to involve the elder Haney but it seems this time the father and son tandem is just cool.

In this video, Bernard Hopkins, one of Ryan's promoters is giving the elder Haney a shard look while the two are having their thrash talk, Ryan is full of anger I have never seen him this angry, he was not like this on Gervonta, it's good that he did not push Devin Haney, there's a lot to watch out for in this fight, a lot of dramas and a lot thrash talking.

https://www.facebook.com/mmafighting/videos/1131595887996176

Who is that guy behind Ryan Garcia? Is that LeBron James? LOL...

Nah, probably one of his body guards. Lol. 

Yeah I know I was just kidding. he does look like Lebron a first look. LOL.

Ryan knows how to sell this fight; that's all I can say. We all know that Haney is the better fighter here, so him trying to be aggressive during face-off does not guarantee that he'll be aggressive too during the fight. Well, I think he should be because Haney will just roll with his defense and score. If he does not put pressure on Haney, the fight will end up being boring, and he doesn't have a chance to win as it could be another UD by Haney.

Sure, but the thing with Ryan is that he says differently, I mean he tell us that he is looking to cement his legacy or at least make one. But we all know that this is just a whole act in front of the camera. His persona might be very different in public. And fans love him for that, the trash talking and the Haney's too, Bill Haney though is funny with his attack on Ryan's Dad that I don't think they will consider it personal although Haney says that he like Ryan before, but now it's going to be personal for him as well.

I can only point out his ability to sell the fight, as his fight with Tank Davis resulted in success. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they'll generate a huge amount of revenue, especially in PPV. Ryan is living his character; fans like or hate him, it doesn't matter to him as long as people will watch his fight, and in the end, he'll again get a good paycheck. Some fighters, after losing in a championship fight, struggle to come back, but it seems so easy for Ryan; that's because promoters want him.

[Baofeng]

Everyone interested to see the video of the sparring between Tank Davis and Devin Haney?

Ryan leaked it here: https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1763400539663122553

As you can see, Tank got the better of Haney here, even rocking Devin and Tank looks absolutely a monster in this sparring.

But as they say, this is just a sparring and perhaps Haney has improved a lot already. But who knows, 

[TravelMug]

Everyone interested to see the video of the sparring between Tank Davis and Devin Haney?

Ryan leaked it here: https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1763400539663122553

As you can see, Tank got the better of Haney here, even rocking Devin and Tank looks absolutely a monster in this sparring.

But as they say, this is just a sparring and perhaps Haney has improved a lot already. But who knows, 

Doesn't really says anything though, Haney says that he is like 16 years old in this sparring match but the did take it and hold his ground against Tank Davis. However, if Ryan is the one who leaks this video then it's going to be personal for the Haney's here. The Garcia's has been on the attack, even his Father says that Bill is nappy or something. I don't know what it means but it sounds derogatory remarks or some racists s**t? And them releasing the video doesn't change anything as Ryan is still a huge underdog. And as I have said, it might make Haney really mad and so he will be motivated to knock Ryan out again similar to what Tank did to him, q-u-i-t.

[Yaunfitda]

Everyone interested to see the video of the sparring between Tank Davis and Devin Haney?

Ryan leaked it here: https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1763400539663122553

As you can see, Tank got the better of Haney here, even rocking Devin and Tank looks absolutely a monster in this sparring.

But as they say, this is just a sparring and perhaps Haney has improved a lot already. But who knows, 

Doesn't really says anything though, Haney says that he is like 16 years old in this sparring match but the did take it and hold his ground against Tank Davis. However, if Ryan is the one who leaks this video then it's going to be personal for the Haney's here. The Garcia's has been on the attack, even his Father says that Bill is nappy or something. I don't know what it means but it sounds derogatory remarks or some racists s**t? And them releasing the video doesn't change anything as Ryan is still a huge underdog. And as I have said, it might make Haney really mad and so he will be motivated to knock Ryan out again similar to what Tank did to him, q-u-i-t.

Tank Davis is 29 years right now, and Devin Haney is 25 years old. If this fight happens when Devin Haney is 17, then Tank could be 21 that time and obviously has a lot more experience and that's why he looks absolutely gonna knockout Haney in that sparring. But the video shows none of that, he just got the better of Haney, bust him maybe with his upper cut and if you look at the body of Tank, it's build it the way it is right now while Haney looks skinny and maybe at the start of his career at 135 lbs and so he is too green during this sparring. Every fight is full of trash talk though, racist sometimes but at the end of the day, this is how fights are being promoted even in the time of the GOAT himself, Muhammad Ali.

[Finestream]

Everyone interested to see the video of the sparring between Tank Davis and Devin Haney?

Ryan leaked it here: https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1763400539663122553

As you can see, Tank got the better of Haney here, even rocking Devin and Tank looks absolutely a monster in this sparring.

But as they say, this is just a sparring and perhaps Haney has improved a lot already. But who knows, 

Doesn't really says anything though, Haney says that he is like 16 years old in this sparring match but the did take it and hold his ground against Tank Davis. However, if Ryan is the one who leaks this video then it's going to be personal for the Haney's here. The Garcia's has been on the attack, even his Father says that Bill is nappy or something. I don't know what it means but it sounds derogatory remarks or some racists s**t? And them releasing the video doesn't change anything as Ryan is still a huge underdog. And as I have said, it might make Haney really mad and so he will be motivated to knock Ryan out again similar to what Tank did to him, q-u-i-t.

Tank Davis is 29 years right now, and Devin Haney is 25 years old. If this fight happens when Devin Haney is 17, then Tank could be 21 that time and obviously has a lot more experience and that's why he looks absolutely gonna knockout Haney in that sparring. But the video shows none of that, he just got the better of Haney, bust him maybe with his upper cut and if you look at the body of Tank, it's build it the way it is right now while Haney looks skinny and maybe at the start of his career at 135 lbs and so he is too green during this sparring. Every fight is full of trash talk though, racist sometimes but at the end of the day, this is how fights are being promoted even in the time of the GOAT himself, Muhammad Ali.

That was a long time ago; a lot of things have changed now, and it's not relevant anymore. What is Ryan Garcia trying to deliver here? Does he want to convince the fans that he can beat Haney because he was knocked out by Tank when he was a teenager? Ryan has really done things to gain so much attention, but in the end, he is still the one who suffered a defeat against a great boxer like Haney.

[cabron]

Everyone interested to see the video of the sparring between Tank Davis and Devin Haney?

Ryan leaked it here: https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1763400539663122553

As you can see, Tank got the better of Haney here, even rocking Devin and Tank looks absolutely a monster in this sparring.

But as they say, this is just a sparring and perhaps Haney has improved a lot already. But who knows, 

Doesn't really says anything though, Haney says that he is like 16 years old in this sparring match but the did take it and hold his ground against Tank Davis. However, if Ryan is the one who leaks this video then it's going to be personal for the Haney's here. The Garcia's has been on the attack, even his Father says that Bill is nappy or something. I don't know what it means but it sounds derogatory remarks or some racists s**t? And them releasing the video doesn't change anything as Ryan is still a huge underdog. And as I have said, it might make Haney really mad and so he will be motivated to knock Ryan out again similar to what Tank did to him, q-u-i-t.

Tank Davis is 29 years right now, and Devin Haney is 25 years old. If this fight happens when Devin Haney is 17, then Tank could be 21 that time and obviously has a lot more experience and that's why he looks absolutely gonna knockout Haney in that sparring. But the video shows none of that, he just got the better of Haney, bust him maybe with his upper cut and if you look at the body of Tank, it's build it the way it is right now while Haney looks skinny and maybe at the start of his career at 135 lbs and so he is too green during this sparring. Every fight is full of trash talk though, racist sometimes but at the end of the day, this is how fights are being promoted even in the time of the GOAT himself, Muhammad Ali.

That was a long time ago; a lot of things have changed now, and it's not relevant anymore. What is Ryan Garcia trying to deliver here? Does he want to convince the fans that he can beat Haney because he was knocked out by Tank when he was a teenager? Ryan has really done things to gain so much attention, but in the end, he is still the one who suffered a defeat against a great boxer like Haney.

Ryan doesn't fight like Tank. It could even be the other way around and Ryan will have difficulty avoiding Haney's punch. But if Ryan could just absorb Haney's punch which is very possible, he could take a risk to be able to counter Haney and this I think how the fight might go. Haney is never a hard hitter, unlike Ryan who has a fast hand and has a one-punch KO.

However, it's true. Ryan is just playing around. Remember this guy is also a psycho. It's not even relevant but he posts these videos anyway. They used to be friends but to promote this fight he just snaps.

[Kemarit]

That was a long time ago; a lot of things have changed now, and it's not relevant anymore. What is Ryan Garcia trying to deliver here? Does he want to convince the fans that he can beat Haney because he was knocked out by Tank when he was a teenager? Ryan has really done things to gain so much attention, but in the end, he is still the one who suffered a defeat against a great boxer like Haney.

I do agree, it was a long time ago, video shows nothing and as someone says, it's very old as Haney was young during that time and Davis was about to hit his prime and it seems that the crowd around is pro Tank Davis anyway. But I think this is the first time that we will see a fight that both has cross path in the amateurs so they really know each other already, and the record is 3-3. I haven't heard or seen a fight in pro level wherein the boxers have face each other this many times in the amateurs.

Also it will be interesting what will be the numbers here even if the fight is in Barclays, very far from Las Vegas where this two has a lot of fan based.

I'm expecting that it could go on a 1 million PPV buys again for Ryan? Cementing his as the next cash cow?

[FinneysTrueVision]

Everyone interested to see the video of the sparring between Tank Davis and Devin Haney?

Ryan leaked it here: https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1763400539663122553

As you can see, Tank got the better of Haney here, even rocking Devin and Tank looks absolutely a monster in this sparring.
But as they say, this is just a sparring and perhaps Haney has improved a lot already. But who knows,  

Floyd was the one who originally leaked the video to Ryan, who then posted it on his social media. It probably gets under Floyd’s skin that Haney has accomplished so much and is considered one of the top pound for pound fighters while his own fighter Tank Davis, who has been a pro for longer is not nearly as highly regarded. Floyd is always diminishing other fighters’ accomplishments like Lomachenko, Inoue, and Canelo because he is insecure about his own legacy also.

Haney has responded to Floyd by calling him a hater and a miserable old man.
https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1763635124141428980

Also it will be interesting what will be the numbers here even if the fight is in Barclays, very far from Las Vegas where this two has a lot of fan based.

I'm expecting that it could go on a 1 million PPV buys again for Ryan? Cementing his as the next cash cow?

Edit: I was mistaken about this fight not being on PPV. There was many YouTube channels and Twitter accounts spreading that rumor.

I believe the fight will do very well but the schedule is pretty crowded with other big fights that it might be hard to break past 1 million buys.

[Baofeng]

Everyone interested to see the video of the sparring between Tank Davis and Devin Haney?

Ryan leaked it here: https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1763400539663122553

As you can see, Tank got the better of Haney here, even rocking Devin and Tank looks absolutely a monster in this sparring.

But as they say, this is just a sparring and perhaps Haney has improved a lot already. But who knows,  

Floyd was the one who originally leaked the video to Ryan, who then posted it on his social media. It probably gets under Floyd’s skin that Haney has accomplished so much and is considered one of the top pound for pound fighters while his own fighter Tank Davis, who has been a pro for longer is not nearly as highly regarded. Floyd is always diminishing other fighters’ accomplishments like Lomachenko, Inoue, and Canelo because he is insecure about his own legacy also.

Haney has responded to Floyd by calling him a hater and a miserable old man.
https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1763635124141428980

Possible, if I remember correctly, when Canelo signs that $300++ Million from DAZN for a five-year deal, he went to the public and it seems that he is envy with that huge amount. He said that he can get that amount in just one fight, it could be true though, against Manny and Conor McGregor.

So you might have a point, we fans say that Haney is boring and can't bring fans to watch his fights. But if you look closely, as his young age, he has accomplished a lot, more than what his contemporaries, Ryan Garcia, Tank Davis and Teo Lopez.

[coin-investor]

I just stumble this video and it was broadcast just yesterday in their press conference this is not looking good for Ryan While Haney shouted to stop using Coke Ryan denied that and admitted that he is drinking and using weed, in the video he is stammering and having a hard time addressing the issue.
Apart from lack of skill, this is already a giveaway that against a vastly improved Haney he has no chance, his weed smoking will affect Ryan's performance, smoking weeds is like smoking tobacco there is a similar effect that can hamper proper breathing


Devin Haney tells Ryan Garcia to lay off the cocaine. What's Ryan's response?

We just don't know if he uses weed when he fought Gervonta, but Ryan is exposing himself too much after this fight he has no reputation to protect, he's also a bad example for the youth like what Haney said in this video.

[Shamm]

Ryan Garcia is coming for the wing once again but this time his opponent is no other than Devin Haney  and we all know that devin very good fighter he has dedicated for it. About Ryan Garcia we are know that he is good and also he is best fighter in the world of boxing, he is a fighter that was suitable for this fight against devin. Anyways there are many people believe that Garcia will win in this match but we must be careful cause we all know that devin is one of the best fighterm

[Yatsan]

Haney really has proven himself for being undefeated on his 31 matches. Ryan on the other hand is more of a power puncher in this match. Will be really interesting and I think I would be going for Ryan with this one. Other leopl say that he became different after his fight with tank but that's a normal thing. If I'm not mistaken he never  had a match after that to prove this assumption. And logically, he should be more hungery of winning after his first loss. He should also learned  from that match with Tank. I do think that haney won't give his title easily but the fighter with a bigger drive will be advantageous. I guess this won't also be an absolute exchange of punches and that this is more likely to end with decision instead of a knockout.

Ryan has a history of mental breakdown before and that's why he quit for a while before making a comeback and taking a new trainer in Goosen. However, when he lost to Tank Davis, the switches again, this time he is under the tutelage of Derrick James who trains Errol Spence and a bunch of others.

Haney could use Ryan's weakness to his advantage. I hope he'll do some trash-talking too so Ryan will be distracted going into the fight. Well, as for technique and skills, the edge all points to Haney, so there's no reason here to take a higher risk by betting on Ryan when we know he will not win. The choices here would only go down as to whether Ryan will be knocked out or will lose in 12 rounds. I think the last option is more likely to be the scenario.

Ryan won't step in the ring without preparation. His team anticipates how Devin would perform in the square; they're the challenger in the first place. Same with Haney who for sure knows what Ryan is capable of given his power as proven by his 20 knockout victory. Ryan is the underdog indeed but anything could happen and only the match itself could dictate who will be the winner.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I just stumble this video and it was broadcast just yesterday in their press conference this is not looking good for Ryan While Haney shouted to stop using Coke Ryan denied that and admitted that he is drinking and using weed, in the video he is stammering and having a hard time addressing the issue.
Apart from lack of skill, this is already a giveaway that against a vastly improved Haney he has no chance, his weed smoking will affect Ryan's performance, smoking weeds is like smoking tobacco there is a similar effect that can hamper proper breathing


Devin Haney tells Ryan Garcia to lay off the cocaine. What's Ryan's response?

We just don't know if he uses weed when he fought Gervonta, but Ryan is exposing himself too much after this fight he has no reputation to protect, he's also a bad example for the youth like what Haney said in this video.

I think this is just part of the promotion, specially on what Ryan is doing in his social media, he even had video or him or images of smoking marijuana. So for me, this is not the real Ryan, he just wants to be talk now that he has a upcoming fight with Haney. There's also a video of Devin's father Bill also circulating that he has somewhat also smoking a weed.

And he is attacking at all front, releasing the video of the sparring between Tank and then the then very young Devin Haney. He is like doing a psyche war before the fight and wanted to get into the head of the Haney's. And the Haney's response is that they are taking this fight very personal now.

[Japinat]

I just stumble this video and it was broadcast just yesterday in their press conference this is not looking good for Ryan While Haney shouted to stop using Coke Ryan denied that and admitted that he is drinking and using weed, in the video he is stammering and having a hard time addressing the issue.
Apart from lack of skill, this is already a giveaway that against a vastly improved Haney he has no chance, his weed smoking will affect Ryan's performance, smoking weeds is like smoking tobacco there is a similar effect that can hamper proper breathing


Devin Haney tells Ryan Garcia to lay off the cocaine. What's Ryan's response?

We just don't know if he uses weed when he fought Gervonta, but Ryan is exposing himself too much after this fight he has no reputation to protect, he's also a bad example for the youth like what Haney said in this video.

I think this is just part of the promotion, specially on what Ryan is doing in his social media, he even had video or him or images of smoking marijuana. So for me, this is not the real Ryan, he just wants to be talk now that he has a upcoming fight with Haney. There's also a video of Devin's father Bill also circulating that he has somewhat also smoking a weed.

And he is attacking at all front, releasing the video of the sparring between Tank and then the then very young Devin Haney. He is like doing a psyche war before the fight and wanted to get into the head of the Haney's. And the Haney's response is that they are taking this fight very personal now.

We are not sure if they are really taking it personally or if it's just a show. Nowadays, for a boxer to be popular, you not only need talent in fighting but also need to be an actor to gain the attention of the fans, resulting in significant revenue. Ryan knows this is a big fight but his chance of winning is slim, but he could increase his chance of earning here. So, that's what he is doing now.

If we buy their story, it's up to us, but it's obviously just part of the promotion. Ryan is just too good at it, and Haney is learning how to ride it.

[coin-investor]

I think this is just part of the promotion, specially on what Ryan is doing in his social media, he even had video or him or images of smoking marijuana. So for me, this is not the real Ryan, he just wants to be talk now that he has a upcoming fight with Haney. There's also a video of Devin's father Bill also circulating that he has somewhat also smoking a weed.

And he is attacking at all front, releasing the video of the sparring between Tank and then the then very young Devin Haney. He is like doing a psyche war before the fight and wanted to get into the head of the Haney's. And the Haney's response is that they are taking this fight very personal now.

We are not sure if they are really taking it personally or if it's just a show. Nowadays, for a boxer to be popular, you not only need talent in fighting but also need to be an actor to gain the attention of the fans, resulting in significant revenue. Ryan knows this is a big fight but his chance of winning is slim, but he could increase his chance of earning here. So, that's what he is doing now.

If we buy their story, it's up to us, but it's obviously just part of the promotion. Ryan is just too good at it, and Haney is learning how to ride it.

But a boxer needs to walk his talk, if he cannot he will be like Adrian Bronner who loves to talk a lot but cannot back up his actions, Ryan is good at creating hype because he is a social media king an Instagram king and he loves to keep his followers interested, But for me based on their body language they really hate each other, they do not hold back they show disrespect, of course after the fight whoever wins it will be gentleman enough to reach out to his opponent because both of them have an image to protect.

They do not really have to resort to this gimmick if ever this is a gimmick, because the fight will sell because this is Haney and Ryan Garcia boxing fans will be interested because they are both top names in boxing.

But what I'm sure of is the two will go at each other they both wanted this fight to happen since 2018 when Ryan was having a great run and Haney was looking to make a name for himself

[Kemarit]

Everyone interested to see the video of the sparring between Tank Davis and Devin Haney?

Ryan leaked it here: https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1763400539663122553

As you can see, Tank got the better of Haney here, even rocking Devin and Tank looks absolutely a monster in this sparring.
But as they say, this is just a sparring and perhaps Haney has improved a lot already. But who knows,  

Floyd was the one who originally leaked the video to Ryan, who then posted it on his social media. It probably gets under Floyd’s skin that Haney has accomplished so much and is considered one of the top pound for pound fighters while his own fighter Tank Davis, who has been a pro for longer is not nearly as highly regarded. Floyd is always diminishing other fighters’ accomplishments like Lomachenko, Inoue, and Canelo because he is insecure about his own legacy also.

Haney has responded to Floyd by calling him a hater and a miserable old man.
https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1763635124141428980

Also it will be interesting what will be the numbers here even if the fight is in Barclays, very far from Las Vegas where this two has a lot of fan based.

I'm expecting that it could go on a 1 million PPV buys again for Ryan? Cementing his as the next cash cow?

Edit: I was mistaken about this fight not being on PPV. There was many YouTube channels and Twitter accounts spreading that rumor.

I believe the fight will do very well but the schedule is pretty crowded with other big fights that it might be hard to break past 1 million buys.

That's why I was surprised on your unedited reply that this is not a PPV because as far as what I know it is a PPV. Maybe those who are saying that is is not is confused, of course you don't have to pay if you are a DAZN subscribe,

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But for the PPV, there are no price yet, but it will be in the range of $70-$80 if I will speculation.

I will be leaning to as high as 1 million PPV to as low as 750,000 buy. I think Ryan can bring this kind of money in his fight right now, last fight is not PPV against Duarte, but he has set the record with Tank Davis last year with 1.2 million PPV.

[stadus]

But for the PPV, there are no price yet, but it will be in the range of $70-$80 if I will speculation.

I will be leaning to as high as 1 million PPV to as low as 750,000 buy. I think Ryan can bring this kind of money in his fight right now, last fight is not PPV against Duarte, but he has set the record with Tank Davis last year with 1.2 million PPV.

This could be the range, as they are not that popular, or the fight is the unification fight. I think Pacman vs Mayweather PPV was around $80-90, so your speculation is quite on point.

Regarding the PPV total revenue, last time Ryan fought, which was against Tank Davis, they were able to sell 1.2 million PPV, so 1 million is quite realistic. But this might not break that fight since Tank Davis has a different appeal, being a KO artist, exciting to watch in the ring.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-fight-pay-per-view-numbers-live-gate-exceed-expectations-in-las-vegas/

[coin-investor]

But for the PPV, there are no price yet, but it will be in the range of $70-$80 if I will speculation.

I will be leaning to as high as 1 million PPV to as low as 750,000 buy. I think Ryan can bring this kind of money in his fight right now, last fight is not PPV against Duarte, but he has set the record with Tank Davis last year with 1.2 million PPV.

This could be the range, as they are not that popular, or the fight is the unification fight. I think Pacman vs Mayweather PPV was around $80-90, so your speculation is quite on point.

Regarding the PPV total revenue, last time Ryan fought, which was against Tank Davis, they were able to sell 1.2 million PPV, so 1 million is quite realistic. But this might not break that fight since Tank Davis has a different appeal, being a KO artist, exciting to watch in the ring.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-fight-pay-per-view-numbers-live-gate-exceed-expectations-in-las-vegas/

There's a possibility that this fight will go near that number or even break it, this fight is four years in the making

Here is the video of that thrash-talking

Ryan Garcia & Devin Haney Face-Off, Exchange Words Ahead of Potential Fight

They used to be friends they even hug each other In this video it is Haney who wants the fight to happen, after this, Haney wins an undisputed title while Ryan was beaten by Gervonta so it is different now, Ryan goes after Haney, and with their history and conflict of style and their backstabbing there's a possibility that the number will be near the Ryan-Haney fight.

Ryan is hyped and motivated for this fight he has a plan already after this fight so let's see if the plan will be ruined or he will continue with his plan

[btc_angela]

But for the PPV, there are no price yet, but it will be in the range of $70-$80 if I will speculation.

I will be leaning to as high as 1 million PPV to as low as 750,000 buy. I think Ryan can bring this kind of money in his fight right now, last fight is not PPV against Duarte, but he has set the record with Tank Davis last year with 1.2 million PPV.

This could be the range, as they are not that popular, or the fight is the unification fight. I think Pacman vs Mayweather PPV was around $80-90, so your speculation is quite on point.

Regarding the PPV total revenue, last time Ryan fought, which was against Tank Davis, they were able to sell 1.2 million PPV, so 1 million is quite realistic. But this might not break that fight since Tank Davis has a different appeal, being a KO artist, exciting to watch in the ring.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-fight-pay-per-view-numbers-live-gate-exceed-expectations-in-las-vegas/

Yes, but getting around 800,000 - 1m will show how popular Ryan Garcia is. Lately the price range for this kind of high caliber fight is $80.00 so yes this could be the price and I wouldn't be surprised if there are fans willing to pay that expensive because of Ryan or even Haney as well as he can pull some fans of him.

And for the live gates, it will be in the thousands, celebrities will be there specially around the borough of New York/New Jersey. For the plans or strategy of Ryan, it will be good what will Derick James will do with Ryan here, fighting against a slick Black American fighter.

[Baofeng]

As far as then numbers in this fight, I think it will do good, PPV and live gate wise. For me, Ryan is the next big cash-cow now, behind Canelo or even can surpassed Canelo for this year as Alvarez is easy picking fights for this year while Ryan goes after Haney and we will never know going to happen next.

Even if he losses here again, he could still bounce back and get a busy fight again and maybe go for the weakest champion here or even go up a notch and face Subriel Matias. But let's see how this fight goes first, but no question that it will generate millions of dollars again for Ryan.

[aioc]

As far as then numbers in this fight, I think it will do good, PPV and live gate wise. For me, Ryan is the next big cash-cow now, behind Canelo or even can surpassed Canelo for this year as Alvarez is easy picking fights for this year while Ryan goes after Haney and we will never know going to happen next.

Even if he losses here again, he could still bounce back and get a busy fight again and maybe go for the weakest champion here or even go up a notch and face Subriel Matias. But let's see how this fight goes first, but no question that it will generate millions of dollars again for Ryan.

He cannot be a PPV champion for a long time without a legitimate belt tucked in his belt. Without beating top names in boxing, the boxing experts and the boxing community will question your legacy, Ryan is still good going in this fight. Still, it will become bad for him if he loses the fight the way he loses it like Gervonta

If you watched the conferences and the face-off, Haney always questioned toughness because of how he quit against Gervonta, in a big fight like this is considered a legacy fight, who have you beaten and who beats you will pop up, and that's exactly what's happening now.

[stadus]

But for the PPV, there are no price yet, but it will be in the range of $70-$80 if I will speculation.

I will be leaning to as high as 1 million PPV to as low as 750,000 buy. I think Ryan can bring this kind of money in his fight right now, last fight is not PPV against Duarte, but he has set the record with Tank Davis last year with 1.2 million PPV.

This could be the range, as they are not that popular, or the fight is the unification fight. I think Pacman vs Mayweather PPV was around $80-90, so your speculation is quite on point.

Regarding the PPV total revenue, last time Ryan fought, which was against Tank Davis, they were able to sell 1.2 million PPV, so 1 million is quite realistic. But this might not break that fight since Tank Davis has a different appeal, being a KO artist, exciting to watch in the ring.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-fight-pay-per-view-numbers-live-gate-exceed-expectations-in-las-vegas/

There's a possibility that this fight will go near that number or even break it, this fight is four years in the making

Here is the video of that thrash-talking

~snip~~~

I would be happy if it breaks the record of Garcia vs. Davis, but I want to stay realistic. This is no longer an undefeated Ryan Garcia who will be fighting Haney, so people now might think that Ryan has a slim chance of winning.

Betting odds during that time: Ryan Garcia +190 Odds now vs. Haney: Ryan Garcia +320

We can see the significant difference, implying his slim chance, according to the bookmakers.

[Kemarit]

As far as then numbers in this fight, I think it will do good, PPV and live gate wise. For me, Ryan is the next big cash-cow now, behind Canelo or even can surpassed Canelo for this year as Alvarez is easy picking fights for this year while Ryan goes after Haney and we will never know going to happen next.

Even if he losses here again, he could still bounce back and get a busy fight again and maybe go for the weakest champion here or even go up a notch and face Subriel Matias. But let's see how this fight goes first, but no question that it will generate millions of dollars again for Ryan.

He cannot be a PPV champion for a long time without a legitimate belt tucked in his belt. Without beating top names in boxing, the boxing experts and the boxing community will question your legacy, Ryan is still good going in this fight. Still, it will become bad for him if he loses the fight the way he loses it like Gervonta

If you watched the conferences and the face-off, Haney always questioned toughness because of how he quit against Gervonta, in a big fight like this is considered a legacy fight, who have you beaten and who beats you will pop up, and that's exactly what's happening now.

It could be, but with recent set of boxers that we have right now, Spence and Crawford did a good numbers, but they are not crowd pleasing. Well, Canelo is choosing easy fights now and his fight in Mexico and Charlo was below as per standards. You can say that to Tank Davis, looks legit can draw crowd but doesn't have belt. And with that maybe even if Ryan doesn't have a belt he could still be considered as a big draw. If only Haney has the charisma of Floyd, he could be the next cash cow based on his records alone.

Obviously it will be the contention of the Haney's and see Ryan as a quitter because we've seen him taking a knee. But Ryan is also doing some damage by leaking the video and attack the Haney's as well.

[cabron]

Ryan recently was jailed claiming people took his money.
https://talksport.com/sport/1774522/ryan-garcia-jail-money-phone-emotional-message/

I think his mental disorder got worse with the videos he'd been posting. There may be intervention to be done to this guy seeing how much bragging he has been saying to sell this fight and the possibility that this fight will not happen. He'd been picking fights with even the UFC fighters and Sean Strickland even reacted to his mental breakdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omTP0yMa5I4

[Kelvinid]

Ryan recently was jailed claiming people took his money.
https://talksport.com/sport/1774522/ryan-garcia-jail-money-phone-emotional-message/

I think his mental disorder got worse with the videos he'd been posting. There may be intervention to be done to this guy seeing how much bragging he has been saying to sell this fight and the possibility that this fight will not happen. He'd been picking fights with even the UFC fighters and Sean Strickland even reacted to his mental breakdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omTP0yMa5I4

He is good at selling his fight, so he could just be manipulating us so we will continue to talk about him. Good or bad publicity is still publicity, and it will work to attract people's attention. I doubt that this fight will not happen; they will make sure it will because they will be making a lot of money on this fight. Ryan may lose, but he will be a huge winner if PPV will hit the roof again and might surpass his previous success.

[coin-investor]

Ryan recently was jailed claiming people took his money.
https://talksport.com/sport/1774522/ryan-garcia-jail-money-phone-emotional-message/

I think his mental disorder got worse with the videos he'd been posting. There may be intervention to be done to this guy seeing how much bragging he has been saying to sell this fight and the possibility that this fight will not happen. He'd been picking fights with even the UFC fighters and Sean Strickland even reacted to his mental breakdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omTP0yMa5I4

He is good at selling his fight, so he could just be manipulating us so we will continue to talk about him. Good or bad publicity is still publicity, and it will work to attract people's attention. I doubt that this fight will not happen; they will make sure it will because they will be making a lot of money on this fight. Ryan may lose, but he will be a huge winner if PPV will hit the roof again and might surpass his previous success.

Things are getting out of hand could it be that Ryan is losing his mind again or in a deep depression again, things are not looking good headed to the fight Haney believes that Ryan will retire before they fight, in fact, Ryan Garcia's promoter The Golden Boy promotion already created a backup plan in case something unpredictable happens because of Ryan's erratic behavior

Garcia’s unpredictable behavior has prompted Golden Boy Promotions to form a contingency plan, with undefeated junior welterweight contender Arnold Barboza Jr. waiting in the wings as the backup opponent should Garcia not make it to the fight.

Haney Believes Garcia Might Retire Before Fight Night

We don't know what's going on in Ryan Garcia's mind could it be that he is taking us for a ride and it's just a strategy to catch Haney off guard, or he is suffering from depression again and he might decide not to go on with the fight, based on his body language on press conferences and their face-off he cannot keep up with the pressure while Haney is just so relaxed during those confrontations.

[Baofeng]

Ryan recently was jailed claiming people took his money.
https://talksport.com/sport/1774522/ryan-garcia-jail-money-phone-emotional-message/

I think his mental disorder got worse with the videos he'd been posting. There may be intervention to be done to this guy seeing how much bragging he has been saying to sell this fight and the possibility that this fight will not happen. He'd been picking fights with even the UFC fighters and Sean Strickland even reacted to his mental breakdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omTP0yMa5I4

He is good at selling his fight, so he could just be manipulating us so we will continue to talk about him. Good or bad publicity is still publicity, and it will work to attract people's attention. I doubt that this fight will not happen; they will make sure it will because they will be making a lot of money on this fight. Ryan may lose, but he will be a huge winner if PPV will hit the roof again and might surpass his previous success.

Yes I do agree that Ryan sometimes go overboard when he promoted a fight as he wanted his fight to gross higher revenue to he will do everything to attract everyone to watch his fight. And sometimes his antics is really out of this world, we can call it weird, but this is all for the clout and the click and the views and obviously he wanted more people to talk about him and his fight.

PPV numbers might be close to his previous records against Devin Haney. But as we say, it takes two to tango, and Haney is not as popular as Tank Davis but he has accomplished more than any of the supposedly 4 kings in the 135-140 lbs, - Lopez, Davis and Ryan Garcia himself.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

And this is what Ryan Garcia has to say,


https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1765430179697164711

So moving forward, he will be focusing on the fight and not on his social media. That's good to hear if he is serious.
But we all know that Ryan has a lot of followers and he gain that needed attention already in this fight, he has promoted it immensely. No question that he did this whole personality of him as the bad guy with that kind of posts and his conspiracies and other tweets that people think that he is going on another mental breakdown bout again.
However, he had Derrick James as trainer, so I doubt that he will allow his fighters to go on a downward spiral as this is another biggest fight for James and trying to break that curse of losing his students on a championship fight.

[OgNasty]

^ We’ll see. He’s going to be bombarded with podcast requests now. I don’t think he’ll be able to resist. At this point, I am leaning towards this fight not happening or going spectacularly wrong for Garcia. He’s in a downward spiral he needs to fix before trying to move forward. Something is going on with him and I think it is going to have a major effect on his next fight.

[Baofeng]

^ We’ll see. He’s going to be bombarded with podcast requests now. I don’t think he’ll be able to resist. At this point, I am leaning towards this fight not happening or going spectacularly wrong for Garcia. He’s in a downward spiral he needs to fix before trying to move forward. Something is going on with him and I think it is going to have a major effect on his next fight.

Before he has appeared to famous podcast like Mike Tyson. But yeah, with so much invitation and probably him making money guesting on such shows, who knows, maybe he will still surface from time to time and make interviews.

Hopefully there are still people around him that is very much concern about his mentality and not just for his money. Yeah, probably something is up with, and to be fair, in recent years we have heard sports personalities going into this path, mental breakdown and mental issues, like Charlo and even tennis stars Naomi Osaka.

[coin-investor]

^ We’ll see. He’s going to be bombarded with podcast requests now. I don’t think he’ll be able to resist. At this point, I am leaning towards this fight not happening or going spectacularly wrong for Garcia. He’s in a downward spiral he needs to fix before trying to move forward. Something is going on with him and I think it is going to have a major effect on his next fight.

So are we going to see a documentary about "What went wrong with Ryan?" There is too much social media on Ryan Garcia's head, how can a boxer focus when there's too much distraction, his body language is faking it, and he is trying to be confident in front of the public, has anyone seen how he has slur in his speech?

Imagine admitting in public that he is drinking and taking weeds very unusual for an athlete, especially for someone like Ryan who has a good status in boxing.

It is still a month before the fight but Garcia is breaking down, I will not be surprised by the cancellation Ryan can't take the pressure of fighting a top-level fighter, if this is a regular fighter I don't think he will display this kind of breakdown.

I think the Gervonta losses still haunt him and the reality that Haney can beat him decisively.

Check out this video and it will tell how alarming Ryan's behavior is
"HE'S ON DR*GS!" Boxing World REACTS To Ryan Garcia MELTDOWN


 

[btc_angela]

Ryan is now on training with Derrick James as there are lot of videos of him circulating on X (Twitter). So it's good to him back in action, but it's just 5 weeks from fight now and hopefully they are still on track and on schedule to be at peak on April 20.

Also, Frank Martin is training with them or at least he is being handled by Derrick James as well. Maybe there could be pointers from Ryan on how the power of Tank is as we all know that Martin and Tank Davis will have their own fight in the next coming months.

[Natalim]

Ryan is now on training with Derrick James as there are lot of videos of him circulating on X (Twitter). So it's good to him back in action, but it's just 5 weeks from fight now and hopefully they are still on track and on schedule to be at peak on April 20.

Good for him, he need the best trainer he can trust in this big upcoming fight for him. Haney is probably the toughest opponent he will face, probably even better than Tank Davis, so if Ryan will not improve and will not focus in this fight, he might have the same fate in his fight vs Tank Davis.

On the other hand, if he wins this fight, his popularity will shoot up and there will be more big fights coming fro him, probably even getting a rematch with Haney and will be dictating the terms.

Also, Frank Martin is training with them or at least he is being handled by Derrick James as well. Maybe there could be pointers from Ryan on how the power of Tank is as we all know that Martin and Tank Davis will have their own fight in the next coming months.

It's not yet listed in https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814937.. probably not yet official?

[inthelongrun]

And this is what Ryan Garcia has to say,


https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1765430179697164711

So moving forward, he will be focusing on the fight and not on his social media. That's good to hear if he is serious.
But we all know that Ryan has a lot of followers and he gain that needed attention already in this fight, he has promoted it immensely. No question that he did this whole personality of him as the bad guy with that kind of posts and his conspiracies and other tweets that people think that he is going on another mental breakdown bout again.
However, he had Derrick James as trainer, so I doubt that he will allow his fighters to go on a downward spiral as this is another biggest fight for James and trying to break that curse of losing his students on a championship fight.

We will see if this bubbly kid commits to his word and focused on the remaining weeks before his fight. Ryan is having mental issues again with his weird posts. Even his ex-wife also posted asking for prayers to Ryan. Ryan's promoter Oscar though told the media that Ryan is doing well and will be ready by fight date.

Pretty sure Derrick James is concerned of his ward. This is also a huge break for him and the result of this fight dictates what happens next to his career as a coach. But what happens to Ryan's social media who's earning a weekly? Maybe he will hire someone to continue posting?

[coin-investor]

We will see if this bubbly kid commits to his word and focused on the remaining weeks before his fight. Ryan is having mental issues again with his weird posts. Even his ex-wife also posted asking for prayers to Ryan. Ryan's promoter Oscar though told the media that Ryan is doing well and will be ready by fight date.

Pretty sure Derrick James is concerned of his ward. This is also a huge break for him and the result of this fight dictates what happens next to his career as a coach. But what happens to Ryan's social media who's earning a weekly? Maybe he will hire someone to continue posting?

He is focusing right now, I just stumble this video and he is looking good, his lateral movement is good he is training with his movement because he knows it's going to be a cat-and-mouse chase kind of match where he needs to catch Haney and throws him off balance with his hit and run tactic.

lateral movements and timing are very important especially if you're fighting a guy who knows how to use distance to his advantage like Haney, both fighters know this is going to be a tactical game, and when you're in a tactical battle you need to be able to run and move the whole 12 rounds if necessary.

[Viscore]

We will see if this bubbly kid commits to his word and focused on the remaining weeks before his fight. Ryan is having mental issues again with his weird posts. Even his ex-wife also posted asking for prayers to Ryan. Ryan's promoter Oscar though told the media that Ryan is doing well and will be ready by fight date.

Pretty sure Derrick James is concerned of his ward. This is also a huge break for him and the result of this fight dictates what happens next to his career as a coach. But what happens to Ryan's social media who's earning a weekly? Maybe he will hire someone to continue posting?

He is focusing right now, I just stumble this video and he is looking good, his lateral movement is good he is training with his movement because he knows it's going to be a cat-and-mouse chase kind of match where he needs to catch Haney and throws him off balance with his hit and run tactic.

lateral movements and timing are very important especially if you're fighting a guy who knows how to use distance to his advantage like Haney, both fighters know this is going to be a tactical game, and when you're in a tactical battle you need to be able to run and move the whole 12 rounds if necessary.

Ryan hasn't been impressive so far despite his win on this last match. Clearly the disparity is very big in terms of skils between Haney and Oscar Duarte Jurado.. I thought he nees more fight to season himself before his comeback to a big fight, but I was wrong because he saw this opportunity to be back on top like a shortcut while at the same time the earnings will not be sacrifice as it's expected to be a huge money generator, this fight...

Let's see if he has really improve, but the last fight, I saw he uses different style, I'm wondering how it would work against Haney.

[yazher]

He is good at selling his fight, so he could just be manipulating us so we will continue to talk about him. Good or bad publicity is still publicity, and it will work to attract people's attention. I doubt that this fight will not happen; they will make sure it will because they will be making a lot of money on this fight. Ryan may lose, but he will be a huge winner if PPV will hit the roof again and might surpass his previous success.

Well, after he lost to Davis, he seems also lost some motivation to train more to make himself prepared for this fight and we all know that he gonna win this fight if miracles happen because Devin Haney is the least opponent they can match against him because he can actually beat Garcia flawlessly without even sweating due to his high-level experience based in his last fights. But whoever took this fight seriously and exerted all necessary effort to go inside the ring with 100% preparation, I guess if he lost the fight, he had nothing to worry about and if he won, he surely deserved it.

[Jating]

He is good at selling his fight, so he could just be manipulating us so we will continue to talk about him. Good or bad publicity is still publicity, and it will work to attract people's attention. I doubt that this fight will not happen; they will make sure it will because they will be making a lot of money on this fight. Ryan may lose, but he will be a huge winner if PPV will hit the roof again and might surpass his previous success.

Well, after he lost to Davis, he seems also lost some motivation to train more to make himself prepared for this fight and we all know that he gonna win this fight if miracles happen because Devin Haney is the least opponent they can match against him because he can actually beat Garcia flawlessly without even sweating due to his high-level experience based in his last fights. But whoever took this fight seriously and exerted all necessary effort to go inside the ring with 100% preparation, I guess if he lost the fight, he had nothing to worry about and if he won, he surely deserved it.

Ryan Garcia already won a fight after his lost to Tank Davis though. So it seems that he is back in boxing, however, what concern us is the way he acted after the fight with Haney is confirmed or at least during the kick off press conference and subsequent post in his social media that everyone questions his sanity even Devin Haney.

But now, it looks like he is back in the gym with his dad and trainer Derick James doing some mitts and shadow boxing with Frank Martin. However, the question still remains if he still has it what it takes to beat Devin Haney if he is not focused 100% on this fight.

[OgNasty]

Ryan Garcia’s podcast appearance with Bobbi Altoff on the Pretty Good Podcast was one of the most cringe things I’ve ever seen. He seems like he is a little off. I don’t know how his mental issues will translate into the ring, but I stick with the opinion that you would have to be crazy to bet on him given his current mental state.

[Kemarit]

Ryan Garcia’s podcast appearance with Bobbi Altoff on the Pretty Good Podcast was one of the most cringe things I’ve ever seen. He seems like he is a little off. I don’t know how his mental issues will translate into the ring, but I stick with the opinion that you would have to be crazy to bet on him given his current mental state.

He is a huge underdog already, so yeah, smart boxing bettors might think otherwise to put a bet on him. And seeing some of this training sessions, I don't see any big changes, unless Derrick James really make him a slick boxer, I don't think that Ryan can bet this version of Devin Haney.

But this is boxing, I mean just one punch can change the result of the fight and most likely team Ryan Garcia is banking on his left hook to finish Devin Haney. That is if he can hit Devin will power and caught him by surprise.

[aioc]

There is news that ticket sales are not taking off it's only a month to go before this match but there are still unsold tickets one of the reasons is the pricey tickets and hype of the match.
Another reason is the location of the match

Bad Match, Bad Location Staging the Haney vs. Ryan fight at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York, wasn’t exactly the smartest thing the event organizers could have done, considering Garcia is from California and Devin is a Las Vegas fighter. Did the event organizers think Ryan & Devin’s fans would fly across the country to see this fight in New York? Do you know how expensive that is?

Source: Why Haney Vs. Garcia Tickets Aren't Flying Off The Shelves - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/03/why-haney-vs-garcia-tickets-arent-flying-off-the-shelves/)

The press conferences are turning into a big circus they should act as professionals and take the promotion seriously if they don't want this to turn into a big flop.

[Finestream]

There is news that ticket sales are not taking off it's only a month to go before this match but there are still unsold tickets one of the reasons is the pricey tickets and hype of the match.
Another reason is the location of the match

Bad Match, Bad Location Staging the Haney vs. Ryan fight at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York, wasn’t exactly the smartest thing the event organizers could have done, considering Garcia is from California and Devin is a Las Vegas fighter. Did the event organizers think Ryan & Devin’s fans would fly across the country to see this fight in New York? Do you know how expensive that is?

Source: Why Haney Vs. Garcia Tickets Aren't Flying Off The Shelves - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/03/why-haney-vs-garcia-tickets-arent-flying-off-the-shelves/)

The press conferences are turning into a big circus they should act as professionals and take the promotion seriously if they don't want this to turn into a big flop.

I thought the promoters know what they are doing, they are in command of the organizers and as to when this fight will take place. I guess the hype is not as big as the Tank Vs Garcia before since they were both undefeated but now Ryan has 1 loss, while Haney his opponent is a boring fight, at least for me.

So the hype that the tickets will be sold out soon is just a wrong expectation, but let's see, there's still time since they still have more than a month before the fight. I'm sure they'll continue to sell tickets until it's sold out ( hopefully).

[Viscore]

Ryan Garcia’s podcast appearance with Bobbi Altoff on the Pretty Good Podcast was one of the most cringe things I’ve ever seen. He seems like he is a little off. I don’t know how his mental issues will translate into the ring, but I stick with the opinion that you would have to be crazy to bet on him given his current mental state.

He is a huge underdog already, so yeah, smart boxing bettors might think otherwise to put a bet on him. And seeing some of this training sessions, I don't see any big changes, unless Derrick James really make him a slick boxer, I don't think that Ryan can bet this version of Devin Haney.

But this is boxing, I mean just one punch can change the result of the fight and most likely team Ryan Garcia is banking on his left hook to finish Devin Haney. That is if he can hit Devin will power and caught him by surprise.

That's what Ryan needs to do, fight the right timing to land a solid shot that could hurt Haney, and he'll be ahead in the fight. It's the quickness of Haney that is hard to beat, but with proper training against Haney's style, nothing is impossible, and Ryan could put an upset.

I think at the current status of Ryan's career, we can call him as an underrated boxer,  so odds matters since people does not believe he'll win but if you look at Ryan's previous fights, most of them are in KO, and with rigid training he is having now, he'll be in full shape and hence his chance will increase.

[Yaunfitda]

There is news that ticket sales are not taking off it's only a month to go before this match but there are still unsold tickets one of the reasons is the pricey tickets and hype of the match.
Another reason is the location of the match

Bad Match, Bad Location Staging the Haney vs. Ryan fight at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York, wasn’t exactly the smartest thing the event organizers could have done, considering Garcia is from California and Devin is a Las Vegas fighter. Did the event organizers think Ryan & Devin’s fans would fly across the country to see this fight in New York? Do you know how expensive that is?

Source: Why Haney Vs. Garcia Tickets Aren't Flying Off The Shelves - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/03/why-haney-vs-garcia-tickets-arent-flying-off-the-shelves/)

The press conferences are turning into a big circus they should act as professionals and take the promotion seriously if they don't want this to turn into a big flop.

I thought the promoters know what they are doing, they are in command of the organizers and as to when this fight will take place. I guess the hype is not as big as the Tank Vs Garcia before since they were both undefeated but now Ryan has 1 loss, while Haney his opponent is a boring fight, at least for me.

So the hype that the tickets will be sold out soon is just a wrong expectation, but let's see, there's still time since they still have more than a month before the fight. I'm sure they'll continue to sell tickets until it's sold out ( hopefully).

I think it is still as big as Tank vs Ryan though, if you have seen it, Ryan has promoted this fight even prior to the kick off conference wherein they were in a shoving match. And then during the press conference, words have been thrown against each other. Although following that it seems it took a dark turn on Ryan as he display some sort of mental breakdown. And we don't know if it is for real or Ryan just playing it out to the crowd and his fans so that it will get another huge hype and earning them millions in PPV and live gate sales.

[coin-investor]

I think it is still as big as Tank vs Ryan though, if you have seen it, Ryan has promoted this fight even prior to the kick off conference wherein they were in a shoving match. And then during the press conference, words have been thrown against each other. Although following that it seems it took a dark turn on Ryan as he display some sort of mental breakdown. And we don't know if it is for real or Ryan just playing it out to the crowd and his fans so that it will get another huge hype and earning them millions in PPV and live gate sales.

The fight should have been staged in Las Vegas it just so happens that Haney hails from Vegas and The Golden Boy promotion doesn't want Haney to have a crowd advantage, while Garcia's fan base is in California you just can't imagine fans from these two regions going to New York to watch Garcia, they should have held it on locations closest to Vegas and California.

It's still a whole month before the fight, and the two guys are now sober with each other on their last face-off there's no more shoving going on, I also believe that the ticket will be sold out, they need to promote it to New Yorkers, whatever the outcome of the sales this will still become a legacy fight for both fighter, there should be no excuse for both guys as there is no dehydration clause involved on their contract.

[inthelongrun]

The fight should have been staged in Las Vegas it just so happens that Haney hails from Vegas and The Golden Boy promotion doesn't want Haney to have a crowd advantage, while Garcia's fan base is in California you just can't imagine fans from these two regions going to New York to watch Garcia, they should have held it on locations closest to Vegas and California.

It's still a whole month before the fight, and the two guys are now sober with each other on their last face-off there's no more shoving going on, I also believe that the ticket will be sold out, they need to promote it to New Yorkers, whatever the outcome of the sales this will still become a legacy fight for both fighter, there should be no excuse for both guys as there is no dehydration clause involved on their contract.

Haney is just living in Las Vegas but he is also a Cali guy like Ryan. Which is why Haney made a huge return in California against Prograis in his last fight. I believe Ryan wanted the fight to happen in Vegas because the tickets could be more expensive.

We'll see if the tickets will be sold out. I still believe that Ryan is not ready for a title fight and he might back out here. Haney will win easily against Ryan and maybe even a knockout due the disparity of skills. 3 division world champion Shakur Stevenson also announced his willingness to replace Ryan on the said date.

[Baofeng]

The fight should have been staged in Las Vegas it just so happens that Haney hails from Vegas and The Golden Boy promotion doesn't want Haney to have a crowd advantage, while Garcia's fan base is in California you just can't imagine fans from these two regions going to New York to watch Garcia, they should have held it on locations closest to Vegas and California.

It's still a whole month before the fight, and the two guys are now sober with each other on their last face-off there's no more shoving going on, I also believe that the ticket will be sold out, they need to promote it to New Yorkers, whatever the outcome of the sales this will still become a legacy fight for both fighter, there should be no excuse for both guys as there is no dehydration clause involved on their contract.

Haney is just living in Las Vegas but he is also a Cali guy like Ryan. Which is why Haney made a huge return in California against Prograis in his last fight. I believe Ryan wanted the fight to happen in Vegas because the tickets could be more expensive.

We'll see if the tickets will be sold out. I still believe that Ryan is not ready for a title fight and he might back out here. Haney will win easily against Ryan and maybe even a knockout due the disparity of skills. 3 division world champion Shakur Stevenson also announced his willingness to replace Ryan on the said date.

It could be very well in Vegas there is no income tax, that's why Floyd made it home and most of the fights happen here as obviously, there will be no cut from the money that this boxers are getting. And Ryan has been seen lately with Floyd and maybe he just wanted to stay close with him.

But we will have to wait and see, still good to see Shakur vs Haney, this two has also been talking back and forth and we thought that they would be facing each other, until Haney goes up to 140 lbs and faces Regis Prograis.

[inthelongrun]

The fight should have been staged in Las Vegas it just so happens that Haney hails from Vegas and The Golden Boy promotion doesn't want Haney to have a crowd advantage, while Garcia's fan base is in California you just can't imagine fans from these two regions going to New York to watch Garcia, they should have held it on locations closest to Vegas and California.

It's still a whole month before the fight, and the two guys are now sober with each other on their last face-off there's no more shoving going on, I also believe that the ticket will be sold out, they need to promote it to New Yorkers, whatever the outcome of the sales this will still become a legacy fight for both fighter, there should be no excuse for both guys as there is no dehydration clause involved on their contract.

Haney is just living in Las Vegas but he is also a Cali guy like Ryan. Which is why Haney made a huge return in California against Prograis in his last fight. I believe Ryan wanted the fight to happen in Vegas because the tickets could be more expensive.

We'll see if the tickets will be sold out. I still believe that Ryan is not ready for a title fight and he might back out here. Haney will win easily against Ryan and maybe even a knockout due the disparity of skills. 3 division world champion Shakur Stevenson also announced his willingness to replace Ryan on the said date.

It could be very well in Vegas there is no income tax, that's why Floyd made it home and most of the fights happen here as obviously, there will be no cut from the money that this boxers are getting. And Ryan has been seen lately with Floyd and maybe he just wanted to stay close with him.

But we will have to wait and see, still good to see Shakur vs Haney, this two has also been talking back and forth and we thought that they would be facing each other, until Haney goes up to 140 lbs and faces Regis Prograis.

No wonder Ryan wanted the fight to happen in Vegas as well because I heard there is a high tax rate in the US. Plus high ticket prices and Vegas is nearer to Mexico and southern states that has vast Latino population.

I am really curious if Ryan is fighting on the scheduled date or he is just trolling or is mentally out of his mind. He keeps saying not to talk anymore on social media yet I can regularly notice him talking.

Both Haney and Shakur are boring to watch but they are extra-ordinary world champions so I will definitely watch them fight. But I want them to fight each other with the right preparations. Shakur is already in a short month notice so it will be a big disadvantage while also his debut at 140.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ Really hard to read what on Ryan's mind right now, if we check his social media, there are videos of him training. But still there are also a lot of fans trolling on him and he was forced to response. So it could still be Ryan going to continue with this fight and training very hard with Derrick James. However, we can't take away from the fans what they are seeing on Ryan to think that Garcia wanted to postponed it. But we will see what happens next, the fight is still on unless we get official announcement from any of the camp. And obviously all the blame will be on Ryan here, and we don't know how he will respond to the trolls after as he will play the mental issues card.

[Kemarit]

The fight should have been staged in Las Vegas it just so happens that Haney hails from Vegas and The Golden Boy promotion doesn't want Haney to have a crowd advantage, while Garcia's fan base is in California you just can't imagine fans from these two regions going to New York to watch Garcia, they should have held it on locations closest to Vegas and California.

It's still a whole month before the fight, and the two guys are now sober with each other on their last face-off there's no more shoving going on, I also believe that the ticket will be sold out, they need to promote it to New Yorkers, whatever the outcome of the sales this will still become a legacy fight for both fighter, there should be no excuse for both guys as there is no dehydration clause involved on their contract.

Haney is just living in Las Vegas but he is also a Cali guy like Ryan. Which is why Haney made a huge return in California against Prograis in his last fight. I believe Ryan wanted the fight to happen in Vegas because the tickets could be more expensive.

We'll see if the tickets will be sold out. I still believe that Ryan is not ready for a title fight and he might back out here. Haney will win easily against Ryan and maybe even a knockout due the disparity of skills. 3 division world champion Shakur Stevenson also announced his willingness to replace Ryan on the said date.

It could be very well in Vegas there is no income tax, that's why Floyd made it home and most of the fights happen here as obviously, there will be no cut from the money that this boxers are getting. And Ryan has been seen lately with Floyd and maybe he just wanted to stay close with him.

But we will have to wait and see, still good to see Shakur vs Haney, this two has also been talking back and forth and we thought that they would be facing each other, until Haney goes up to 140 lbs and faces Regis Prograis.

I am really curious if Ryan is fighting on the scheduled date or he is just trolling or is mentally out of his mind. He keeps saying not to talk anymore on social media yet I can regularly notice him talking.

If will be his biggest mistake if he back out from this fight. He has nothing to blame but himself if that happens to him. We can't question though if he is mentally insane or not, but he should know better.

He wanted to have all the attention, now he got it, so hopefully he will not waste it. He talks about money and fame and legacy, so this is it, so what the hell is wrong with Ryan now. He has some training footage with his father, and it seems everything is ok. Maybe this is just another way for him to bring more hype, the way I see it.

[Baofeng]

The fight should have been staged in Las Vegas it just so happens that Haney hails from Vegas and The Golden Boy promotion doesn't want Haney to have a crowd advantage, while Garcia's fan base is in California you just can't imagine fans from these two regions going to New York to watch Garcia, they should have held it on locations closest to Vegas and California.

It's still a whole month before the fight, and the two guys are now sober with each other on their last face-off there's no more shoving going on, I also believe that the ticket will be sold out, they need to promote it to New Yorkers, whatever the outcome of the sales this will still become a legacy fight for both fighter, there should be no excuse for both guys as there is no dehydration clause involved on their contract.

Haney is just living in Las Vegas but he is also a Cali guy like Ryan. Which is why Haney made a huge return in California against Prograis in his last fight. I believe Ryan wanted the fight to happen in Vegas because the tickets could be more expensive.

We'll see if the tickets will be sold out. I still believe that Ryan is not ready for a title fight and he might back out here. Haney will win easily against Ryan and maybe even a knockout due the disparity of skills. 3 division world champion Shakur Stevenson also announced his willingness to replace Ryan on the said date.

It could be very well in Vegas there is no income tax, that's why Floyd made it home and most of the fights happen here as obviously, there will be no cut from the money that this boxers are getting. And Ryan has been seen lately with Floyd and maybe he just wanted to stay close with him.

But we will have to wait and see, still good to see Shakur vs Haney, this two has also been talking back and forth and we thought that they would be facing each other, until Haney goes up to 140 lbs and faces Regis Prograis.

No wonder Ryan wanted the fight to happen in Vegas as well because I heard there is a high tax rate in the US. Plus high ticket prices and Vegas is nearer to Mexico and southern states that has vast Latino population.

I have to check though regarding the tax in New York in combat sports,

If you promote boxing, sparring, or wrestling events
The gross receipts from boxing, sparring, and wrestling events are taxed as follows:

The gross receipts from ticket sales are taxed at 3%, and the maximum amount of tax due per event may not exceed $50,000.
The gross receipts from broadcasting rights are taxed at 3%, and the maximum due per event may not exceed $50,000.
If you promote kick boxing, single discipline martial arts, or MMA events
The gross receipts from kick boxing, single discipline martial arts, and MMA events are taxed as follows

The gross receipts from ticket sales are taxed at 8.5%, with no maximum amount of tax due per event.
The sum of the gross receipts from broadcasting rights and gross receipts from digital streaming over the Internet is taxed at 3%, and the maximum amount of tax due per event may not exceed $50,000.
Before September 1, 2016, only gross receipts from boxing, sparring, and wrestling events were subject to tax.

https://www.tax.ny.gov/bus/acst/auth_combat_sports_tax.htm

Actually it's not that big as well, but yeah, probably it's his fan based that he wanted not to travel. As they are most likely in the West Coast as most American-Mexican live there. And Garcia is banking that his fans wanted to see his fight live and will go and paid tickets if the fight is in Las Vegas. Not saying that they won't in New York, but the travel time might be the issues with them.

[Yaunfitda]

I think it is still as big as Tank vs Ryan though, if you have seen it, Ryan has promoted this fight even prior to the kick off conference wherein they were in a shoving match. And then during the press conference, words have been thrown against each other. Although following that it seems it took a dark turn on Ryan as he display some sort of mental breakdown. And we don't know if it is for real or Ryan just playing it out to the crowd and his fans so that it will get another huge hype and earning them millions in PPV and live gate sales.

The fight should have been staged in Las Vegas it just so happens that Haney hails from Vegas and The Golden Boy promotion doesn't want Haney to have a crowd advantage, while Garcia's fan base is in California you just can't imagine fans from these two regions going to New York to watch Garcia, they should have held it on locations closest to Vegas and California.

Doesn't matter though, I mean California is close to Vegas, Garcia fans could easily travel from Cali to Vegas no question about it. No one will have homecourt advantage or I think that Ryan will have a lot of fans too in Vegas even if Haney is from that city. It's more of the tax implication that many boxers, wanted the fight in Vegas.

It's still a whole month before the fight, and the two guys are now sober with each other on their last face-off there's no more shoving going on, I also believe that the ticket will be sold out, they need to promote it to New Yorkers, whatever the outcome of the sales this will still become a legacy fight for both fighter, there should be no excuse for both guys as there is no dehydration clause involved on their contract.

Most likely they are in the heart of their trainings that's why it's quiet now. Although from time to time, Ryan will post some videos or return a comments from a trolls or from his fans. And checking the current odds, Ryan is drifting almost 6:1 underdog now.

[bbc.reporter]

^^ Really hard to read what on Ryan's mind right now, if we check his social media, there are videos of him training. But still there are also a lot of fans trolling on him and he was forced to response. So it could still be Ryan going to continue with this fight and training very hard with Derrick James. However, we can't take away from the fans what they are seeing on Ryan to think that Garcia wanted to postponed it. But we will see what happens next, the fight is still on unless we get official announcement from any of the camp. And obviously all the blame will be on Ryan here, and we don't know how he will respond to the trolls after as he will play the mental issues card.

I have read an article that mentioned King Ry has been saying that he has been kidnapped and taken to the Bohemian Grove and he was forced to watch live pornography between 2 underaged teenagers. It appears that he is saying this has affected his mind and it might be giving him difficulty in training.

There is a conspiracy theory that politicians, the most wealthy CEOs and famous celebrities meet every year in the Bohemian Grove. This is where they discuss their roadmap for America and the American people.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I have read an article that mentioned King Ry has been saying that he has been kidnapped and taken to the Bohemian Grove and he was forced to watch live pornography between 2 underaged teenagers. It appears that he is saying this has affected his mind and it might be giving him difficulty in training.

There is a conspiracy theory that politicians, the most wealthy CEOs and famous celebrities meet every year in the Bohemian Grove. This is where they discuss their roadmap for America and the American people.

I’m not familiar with this conspiracy theory but it doesn’t sound too far off from the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. It’s an entirely plausible theory. With that said, I believe Ryan is suffering from some deep mental issues. He has said some strange things in the past but I just dismissed it as him being a religious weirdo. After getting his ego crushed in that knockout loss to Tank, as well as marital problems, it might have caused him to unravel and is having a mental breakdown.

It is not too different from what is going on with Teofimo Lopez. The difference is that, despite his crazy antics, Teofimo is able to hold it together well enough to become champion again and compete at the highest level.

[Questat]

I have read an article that mentioned King Ry has been saying that he has been kidnapped and taken to the Bohemian Grove and he was forced to watch live pornography between 2 underaged teenagers. It appears that he is saying this has affected his mind and it might be giving him difficulty in training.

There is a conspiracy theory that politicians, the most wealthy CEOs and famous celebrities meet every year in the Bohemian Grove. This is where they discuss their roadmap for America and the American people.

I’m not familiar with this conspiracy theory but it doesn’t sound too far off from the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. It’s an entirely plausible theory. With that said, I believe Ryan is suffering from some deep mental issues. He has said some strange things in the past but I just dismissed it as him being a religious weirdo. After getting his ego crushed in that knockout loss to Tank, as well as marital problems, it might have caused him to unravel and is having a mental breakdown.

It is not too different from what is going on with Teofimo Lopez. The difference is that, despite his crazy antics, Teofimo is able to hold it together well enough to become champion again and compete at the highest level.

Ryan looks like he still have that mental issue, but people are liking him and that is evidence by the amount of money he gets from his fight. I don't know if its true or it's just a game to trick us to gain our attention and that he would be able  to sell his fight well. But what's true here is that Ryan is going to fight a very smart boxer and a champion, so despite most of us think that Ryan has no chance of winning, we still cannot deny that we are all excited to see this fight, and that's because Ryan creates some drama in his life that we get attach to it as well.

[Hirose UK]

^^ Really hard to read what on Ryan's mind right now, if we check his social media, there are videos of him training. But still there are also a lot of fans trolling on him and he was forced to response. So it could still be Ryan going to continue with this fight and training very hard with Derrick James. However, we can't take away from the fans what they are seeing on Ryan to think that Garcia wanted to postponed it. But we will see what happens next, the fight is still on unless we get official announcement from any of the camp. And obviously all the blame will be on Ryan here, and we don't know how he will respond to the trolls after as he will play the mental issues card.

I have read an article that mentioned King Ry has been saying that he has been kidnapped and taken to the Bohemian Grove and he was forced to watch live pornography between 2 underaged teenagers. It appears that he is saying this has affected his mind and it might be giving him difficulty in training.

There is a conspiracy theory that politicians, the most wealthy CEOs and famous celebrities meet every year in the Bohemian Grove. This is where they discuss their roadmap for America and the American people.

He has said many things, from kidnappings involving community or sect called Bohemian Grove and also about seeing alien UFO to what is quite serious is about an earthquake that will occur on June 6.
He wrote everything on his personal social media account and of course many people questioned what Ryan Garcia had done and many stated that Ryan Garcia mental health was really being disturbed.
I myself think all this is crazy conspiracy that he carried out to create certain sentiment from everyone, but it not clear what was in Ryan Garcia mind that he did all that.
I doubt he has mental health problems because he has trained well for now and if there were any problems then it would have happened long time ago when he was beaten by Gervonta Davis because this defeat cost him his title and also his undefeated record.
Moreover he is great boxer and has won 24 wins from 25 fights and 20 of them were by knockout, clearly this is very good achievement for young boxer like Ryan Garcia.

Now Ryan Garcia has returned to training camp to prepare himself for his scheduled fight with Devin Haney for the WBC super lightweight title which Devin Haney owns.

[bbc.reporter]

@Hirose UK. Was it not mentioned before that King Ry suffered from depression? Might this behavior really be a symptom of manic depression? However, if the story about the Bohemian Grove and being forced to watch sex between underaged women are real, I will not be shocked. It was only yesterday when the rapper P Diddy was raided in his own home because he is a suspected sex trafficer of underaged girls.



U.S. Department of Homeland Security agents have opened an investigation of hip-hop star Sean "Diddy" Combs, searching his properties in Los Angeles and the Miami area, agency officials said on Monday.
The inquiry was led by Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) agents in New York, where a lawsuit was filed against Combs by a former girlfriend in federal court in November accusing him of engaging in sex trafficking.

Source https://www.reuters.com/world/us/sean-diddy-combs-properties-la-miami-raided-by-federal-agents-2024-03-25/

[dansus021]

Im rarely watch today boxing but today I just did quick google search about Ryan Garcia and his last match he fight against the Gervonta Davis and loss - "Gervonta Davis knocked out Ryan Garcia in the seventh round with a body shot to Ryan Garcia's right abdomen. After staggering backwards, Ryan Garcia took a knee, holding the right side of his body. The fight was praised by commentators" and If I don't mistaken is this their fist losses and if so this gonna be must watch fight in my opinion

[TravelMug]

Im rarely watch today boxing but today I just did quick google search about Ryan Garcia and his last match he fight against the Gervonta Davis and loss - "Gervonta Davis knocked out Ryan Garcia in the seventh round with a body shot to Ryan Garcia's right abdomen. After staggering backwards, Ryan Garcia took a knee, holding the right side of his body. The fight was praised by commentators" and If I don't mistaken is this their fist losses and if so this gonna be must watch fight in my opinion

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

[Finestream]

Im rarely watch today boxing but today I just did quick google search about Ryan Garcia and his last match he fight against the Gervonta Davis and loss - "Gervonta Davis knocked out Ryan Garcia in the seventh round with a body shot to Ryan Garcia's right abdomen. After staggering backwards, Ryan Garcia took a knee, holding the right side of his body. The fight was praised by commentators" and If I don't mistaken is this their fist losses and if so this gonna be must watch fight in my opinion

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

He can make an excuses on his loss to Davis and we can accept that. But now that he moves up, I'm sure no more excuses if he loss, and since he is up against a tough challenger, probably a tougher challenger than Davis, so let's see if he can beat Haney. No more excuses this time as he is on his comfortable weight, and a loss here would say that Haney is just too much for him, but an upset win here will make his name so hype that he will get bigger fights that could bring him more money, probably a rematch with Haney too.

[btc_angela]

Im rarely watch today boxing but today I just did quick google search about Ryan Garcia and his last match he fight against the Gervonta Davis and loss - "Gervonta Davis knocked out Ryan Garcia in the seventh round with a body shot to Ryan Garcia's right abdomen. After staggering backwards, Ryan Garcia took a knee, holding the right side of his body. The fight was praised by commentators" and If I don't mistaken is this their fist losses and if so this gonna be must watch fight in my opinion

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

He can make an excuses on his loss to Davis and we can accept that. But now that he moves up, I'm sure no more excuses if he loss, and since he is up against a tough challenger, probably a tougher challenger than Davis, so let's see if he can beat Haney. No more excuses this time as he is on his comfortable weight, and a loss here would say that Haney is just too much for him, but an upset win here will make his name so hype that he will get bigger fights that could bring him more money, probably a rematch with Haney too.

It's no excuse though the way I see it, Tank is just better that him. And even if there is no rehydration clause and Ryan go to the fight going around 140-150 lbs, I don't think that it will matter though.

Davis also once fought at 140 lbs, so he is not that small either. It's just everything is base on tactics, Ryan's body is exposed as he is obviously the taller guy and Tank had all day to target that. Hopefully working with Derrick James will improved Ryan's chances against Haney. But looking at the ends, Ryan is really at a disadvantage here and sport bookies doesn't think that he will win this fight.

[Finestream]

Im rarely watch today boxing but today I just did quick google search about Ryan Garcia and his last match he fight against the Gervonta Davis and loss - "Gervonta Davis knocked out Ryan Garcia in the seventh round with a body shot to Ryan Garcia's right abdomen. After staggering backwards, Ryan Garcia took a knee, holding the right side of his body. The fight was praised by commentators" and If I don't mistaken is this their fist losses and if so this gonna be must watch fight in my opinion

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

He can make an excuses on his loss to Davis and we can accept that. But now that he moves up, I'm sure no more excuses if he loss, and since he is up against a tough challenger, probably a tougher challenger than Davis, so let's see if he can beat Haney. No more excuses this time as he is on his comfortable weight, and a loss here would say that Haney is just too much for him, but an upset win here will make his name so hype that he will get bigger fights that could bring him more money, probably a rematch with Haney too.

It's no excuse though the way I see it, Tank is just better that him. And even if there is no rehydration clause and Ryan go to the fight going around 140-150 lbs, I don't think that it will matter though.

Davis also once fought at 140 lbs, so he is not that small either. It's just everything is base on tactics, Ryan's body is exposed as he is obviously the taller guy and Tank had all day to target that. Hopefully working with Derrick James will improved Ryan's chances against Haney. But looking at the ends, Ryan is really at a disadvantage here and sport bookies doesn't think that he will win this fight.

That's what I believe too but in case Ryan made excuses on his defeat on Tank Davis, then he cannot make an excuses here as he is fighting on a weight class that he is 100% comfortable. So let's just wait for the outcome of this fight, hopefully Ryan's trashtalk against Haney would help him as it's a the real battle is different and for sure Haney as usual are gonna have a game plan to confuse his opponent that Ryan may look amateur vs him.

[btc_angela]

Im rarely watch today boxing but today I just did quick google search about Ryan Garcia and his last match he fight against the Gervonta Davis and loss - "Gervonta Davis knocked out Ryan Garcia in the seventh round with a body shot to Ryan Garcia's right abdomen. After staggering backwards, Ryan Garcia took a knee, holding the right side of his body. The fight was praised by commentators" and If I don't mistaken is this their fist losses and if so this gonna be must watch fight in my opinion

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

He can make an excuses on his loss to Davis and we can accept that. But now that he moves up, I'm sure no more excuses if he loss, and since he is up against a tough challenger, probably a tougher challenger than Davis, so let's see if he can beat Haney. No more excuses this time as he is on his comfortable weight, and a loss here would say that Haney is just too much for him, but an upset win here will make his name so hype that he will get bigger fights that could bring him more money, probably a rematch with Haney too.

It's no excuse though the way I see it, Tank is just better that him. And even if there is no rehydration clause and Ryan go to the fight going around 140-150 lbs, I don't think that it will matter though.

Davis also once fought at 140 lbs, so he is not that small either. It's just everything is base on tactics, Ryan's body is exposed as he is obviously the taller guy and Tank had all day to target that. Hopefully working with Derrick James will improved Ryan's chances against Haney. But looking at the ends, Ryan is really at a disadvantage here and sport bookies doesn't think that he will win this fight.

That's what I believe too but in case Ryan made excuses on his defeat on Tank Davis, then he cannot make an excuses here as he is fighting on a weight class that he is 100% comfortable. So let's just wait for the outcome of this fight, hopefully Ryan's trashtalk against Haney would help him as it's a the real battle is different and for sure Haney as usual are gonna have a game plan to confuse his opponent that Ryan may look amateur vs him.

Or Ryan's mind is focus on this fight and there are no issues whatsoever. He started to trash talk Haney, I remember when he pushes him in a confrontation. So definitely it's a go now as initially we thought that this fight is going to be cancelled as there are a lot of signs like Ryan doesn't want to fight in New York and then his mental health issues.

There will be no excuses here if Ryan losses, but the toll though that it will take to him like his lost to Tank Davis. We will be in April next week so the fight is getting closer and hopefully both will be 100% and at their best version.

[Jating]

And this is what Haney is saying as the fight gets closer, Motivated Devin Haney Vows To ‘End Ryan Garcia And Get Him Out Of Boxing’ And Would Like To See Canelo Take On Benavidez

Garcia’s behavior has been consistently troubling on social media, to the point that Haney cannot listen any more.

“No, I switched off. Ryan can say what he wants to say. I don’t care,” Haney said.

“I’m very confident the fight is going to happen,” Haney stated. “We both signed contracts, the fight is on. Ryan’s training, I’m training. I have no doubt that the fight is going to happen.

We would understand this frustrations, but as Garcia's opponent, he really need not to hear what Ryan Garcia is going to say in public and it's good that he is closing down all the noise and just focusing on the fight itself and the hard trainer.

And he is talking ahead already, a potential fight with other champions like Matias and Teo Lopez.

[dansus021]

~SNIP~

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

So this is the only loss from Ryan Garcia wow just wow I mean he is probably at the top of his career right now. Is there any news that they gonna do a re-match hahah because if this his first loss he probably wants to fight again

but what do you think about upcoming fight "Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia" did Ryan Garcia still have a potential to win?

[Dave1]

~SNIP~

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

So this is the only loss from Ryan Garcia wow just wow I mean he is probably at the top of his career right now. Is there any news that they gonna do a re-match hahah because if this his first loss he probably wants to fight again

but what do you think about upcoming fight "Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia" did Ryan Garcia still have a potential to win?

Ryan Garcia is a huge underdog against Haney and with that it might be hard for him, and the chance are slim. And every time that Ryan Garcia will step up his competition, he usually lost the fight.

He was carefully build by Oscar Dela Hoya and that's why he got the hype that he deserves in the 135 lbs, but when he faces another undefeated fighter in Tank Davis. I will say that he was exposed, he doesn't have that movement, just relying on his left hook that if it didn't work he doesn't have plan B. And in his last fight, he try to be a slick boxer as he was trained by Derrick Jones, but it was funny to see him doing the Philly shell to that point that he is turning his back.

[btc_angela]

And this is what Haney is saying as the fight gets closer, Motivated Devin Haney Vows To ‘End Ryan Garcia And Get Him Out Of Boxing’ And Would Like To See Canelo Take On Benavidez

Garcia’s behavior has been consistently troubling on social media, to the point that Haney cannot listen any more.

“No, I switched off. Ryan can say what he wants to say. I don’t care,” Haney said.

“I’m very confident the fight is going to happen,” Haney stated. “We both signed contracts, the fight is on. Ryan’s training, I’m training. I have no doubt that the fight is going to happen.

We would understand this frustrations, but as Garcia's opponent, he really need not to hear what Ryan Garcia is going to say in public and it's good that he is closing down all the noise and just focusing on the fight itself and the hard trainer.

And he is talking ahead already, a potential fight with other champions like Matias and Teo Lopez.

Haney shouldn't taken Ryan Garcia lightly and shouldn't be looking for his next opponent as he could lose focus here. Although Ryan is a big underdog, I think he is more capable of making a upset with is left hook. It is still dangerous in my opinion, if by chance he touches Haney early, we will see how he can cope with that power of Ryan.

Both sides are quiet, implying that they are into deep training, next will be the weigh-in for this guys but it's about the day prior to the fight.

So now it's more on dieting I guess and then honing their skills with their respecting trainers and laying down their strategy and plan B.

[bisdak40]

Haney shouldn't taken Ryan Garcia lightly and shouldn't be looking for his next opponent as he could lose focus here. Although Ryan is a big underdog, I think he is more capable of making a upset with is left hook. It is still dangerous in my opinion, if by chance he touches Haney early, we will see how he can cope with that power of Ryan.

Both sides are quiet, implying that they are into deep training, next will be the weigh-in for this guys but it's about the day prior to the fight.

So now it's more on dieting I guess and then honing their skills with their respecting trainers and laying down their strategy and plan B.

Yeah, I agree that Haney should take Ryan Garcia seriously and respect the latter's left hook because that could be the punch that could end the night for him.

Good for them that they are quiet as this is the sign that this fight is a go and no more obstacles like mental health issues that could derail this very important fight for the two of them.

[Japinat]

Haney shouldn't taken Ryan Garcia lightly and shouldn't be looking for his next opponent as he could lose focus here. Although Ryan is a big underdog, I think he is more capable of making a upset with is left hook. It is still dangerous in my opinion, if by chance he touches Haney early, we will see how he can cope with that power of Ryan.

Both sides are quiet, implying that they are into deep training, next will be the weigh-in for this guys but it's about the day prior to the fight.

So now it's more on dieting I guess and then honing their skills with their respecting trainers and laying down their strategy and plan B.

Yeah, I agree that Haney should take Ryan Garcia seriously and respect the latter's left hook because that could be the punch that could end the night for him.

Good for them that they are quiet as this is the sign that this fight is a go and no more obstacles like mental health issues that could derail this very important fight for the two of them.

Respect but he should not be hesistant in attacking Haney because if he will not be aggressive and Haney will use his quickness, this fight will be a one sided fight and Haney will be winning via unanimous decision. I think Ryan should trust his power here, try to take a risk as his best chance of winning is if he could KO Haney which never happened before.

[Kemarit]

Haney shouldn't taken Ryan Garcia lightly and shouldn't be looking for his next opponent as he could lose focus here. Although Ryan is a big underdog, I think he is more capable of making a upset with is left hook. It is still dangerous in my opinion, if by chance he touches Haney early, we will see how he can cope with that power of Ryan.

Both sides are quiet, implying that they are into deep training, next will be the weigh-in for this guys but it's about the day prior to the fight.

So now it's more on dieting I guess and then honing their skills with their respecting trainers and laying down their strategy and plan B.

Yeah, I agree that Haney should take Ryan Garcia seriously and respect the latter's left hook because that could be the punch that could end the night for him.

Good for them that they are quiet as this is the sign that this fight is a go and no more obstacles like mental health issues that could derail this very important fight for the two of them.

Yes, and I think Haney doesn't underestimate his opponents, he has reach this far though, so good for him as he is still undefeated. Even Prograis who we thought could give Haney a great fight, was a total mismatch. He even floor Prograis, a supposedly natural 140 lbs and has power.

So it speaks volume of Haney's discipline and not taking for granted his opponents. Specially in the case of Ryan Garcia here, who has one of the best left hook. It's quick and short and very fast and once it landed flush, you really will have to go down because of the power.

[bbc.reporter]

It appears that King Ry should have accepted the offer to fight Rolly Romero. Rolly would give King Ry a higher chance to win a championship and this will certainly imply more money on his next fights. His big name and popularity in boxing is clearly being an annoyance for the others hehehe. Pitbull is offering King Ry a fight and an opportunity to be champion hehehe.

I reckon if Pitbull is brave he should challenge Teo or Matia if they are available. I speculate that King Ry cannot collect more money for the purse after a loss against Devin Haney.



Isaac ‘Pitbull’ Cruz (26-2-1, 18 KOs) is offering Ryan Garcia a free title shot for his first title defense after his eighth-round technical knockout of WBA light welterweight champion Rolando ‘Rolly’ Romero (15-2, 13 KOs) last Saturday night in Las Vegas. Cruz is throwing a title shot at Ryan.

Read in full https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/03/pitbull-cruz-offers-a-title-shot-to-ryan-garcia/

[OgNasty]

Haney shouldn't taken Ryan Garcia lightly and shouldn't be looking for his next opponent as he could lose focus here. Although Ryan is a big underdog, I think he is more capable of making a upset with is left hook. It is still dangerous in my opinion, if by chance he touches Haney early, we will see how he can cope with that power of Ryan.

Both sides are quiet, implying that they are into deep training, next will be the weigh-in for this guys but it's about the day prior to the fight.

So now it's more on dieting I guess and then honing their skills with their respecting trainers and laying down their strategy and plan B.

Yeah, I agree that Haney should take Ryan Garcia seriously and respect the latter's left hook because that could be the punch that could end the night for him.

Good for them that they are quiet as this is the sign that this fight is a go and no more obstacles like mental health issues that could derail this very important fight for the two of them.

Yes, and I think Haney doesn't underestimate his opponents, he has reach this far though, so good for him as he is still undefeated. Even Prograis who we thought could give Haney a great fight, was a total mismatch. He even floor Prograis, a supposedly natural 140 lbs and has power.

So it speaks volume of Haney's discipline and not taking for granted his opponents. Specially in the case of Ryan Garcia here, who has one of the best left hook. It's quick and short and very fast and once it landed flush, you really will have to go down because of the power.

I really don’t think it’s a matter of who is preparing and ready for who when it comes to style and what not. I think it’s going to boil down to Ryan Garcia going through some things mentally and if he’s going to be able to actually stay in the ring. I think there’s a good chance we see him take a knee and throw in the towel again, probably bringing an end to his career.

[stadus]

It appears that King Ry should have accepted the offer to fight Rolly Romero. Rolly would give King Ry a higher chance to win a championship and this will certainly imply more money on his next fights. His big name and popularity in boxing is clearly being an annoyance for the others hehehe. Pitbull is offering King Ry a fight and an opportunity to be champion hehehe.

I reckon if Pitbull is brave he should challenge Teo or Matia if they are available. I speculate that King Ry cannot collect more money for the purse after a loss against Devin Haney.



Isaac ‘Pitbull’ Cruz (26-2-1, 18 KOs) is offering Ryan Garcia a free title shot for his first title defense after his eighth-round technical knockout of WBA light welterweight champion Rolando ‘Rolly’ Romero (15-2, 13 KOs) last Saturday night in Las Vegas. Cruz is throwing a title shot at Ryan.

Read in full https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/03/pitbull-cruz-offers-a-title-shot-to-ryan-garcia/

Pitbull by his name is not afraid, if he fought Tank Davis before, I'm sure he is not afraid to  fight anyone even if it will cause him losing his belt. This guy has just become special because of his style in boxing, but not as special like Haney or Davis.  If he could challenge Teo then I guess I can say we have a fight, it's a 50-50f for me IMO as Pitbull is good against a boxer who doesn't play like a hit and run style.

For now, let him enjoy his success but given how he won that fight, the hype is on him and for sure promoters will make sure he'll get another championship fight before this year will end.

[bbc.reporter]

This is not about Pitbull being afraid. This is about Pitbull challenging Ryan Garcia, however, what is this challenge about? Is this about money and popularity? Ryan Garcia is not a champion hehehe. King Ry should be the boxer who is issuing these challenges but why is Pitbull treating King Ry like a champion? Pitbull should challenge Teofimo Lopez or Subriel Matías, I reckon.

In any case, on Haney vs. King Ry, I predict that this might not go to the decision. Haney is very much stronger in this higher weight division. King Ry with his mental instability might surrender before round 9.

[Oasisman]

Im rarely watch today boxing but today I just did quick google search about Ryan Garcia and his last match he fight against the Gervonta Davis and loss - "Gervonta Davis knocked out Ryan Garcia in the seventh round with a body shot to Ryan Garcia's right abdomen. After staggering backwards, Ryan Garcia took a knee, holding the right side of his body. The fight was praised by commentators" and If I don't mistaken is this their fist losses and if so this gonna be must watch fight in my opinion

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

Nah, the questions about Ryan Garcia's potential in winning against top elite fighters still remains. Haney will for sure pose another challenge in Ryan's style of fighting as Haney is known for his defensive skills that once he gets ahead of you, he will be able to control the pace of the fight. So, that makes Ryan's speed become less effective. Also, Ryan is known to have a glass chin, which means he has weaker chin that if he got hit by a solid punch in that area, he'd most likely going to fall. I wasn't surprised to see the odds though, it is to be expected. Maybe if he fought Haney first before Davis, the odds might be closer than what we are seeing currently. Though he got an impressive win against Duarte, but Haney is a different opponent though. One thing the boxing fans have noticed about Ryan against Duarte is that he have developed a new defensive technique which is  similar to Mayweather's shoulder roll, but people don't think it would work for a caliber like Haney.

[Japinat]

This is not about Pitbull being afraid. This is about Pitbull challenging Ryan Garcia, however, what is this challenge about? Is this about money and popularity? Ryan Garcia is not a champion hehehe. King Ry should be the boxer who is issuing these challenges but why is Pitbull treating King Ry like a champion? Pitbull should challenge Teofimo Lopez or Subriel Matías, I reckon.

In any case, on Haney vs. King Ry, I predict that this might not go to the decision. Haney is very much stronger in this higher weight division. King Ry with his mental instability might surrender before round 9.

I guess so, despite Ryan not anymore a champion but his popularity still stay. Every champion wants to fight him to gain more money and I'm sure the same thing happened in the mind of Pitbull. But before that will happen, maybe let's wait for the outcome of the fight (Garcia vs Haney), because if haney will win, what Pitbull wants might be given but if Ryan will wn, you know this guy would ask more and will challenge a fighter that could help him a bigger paycheck, I'm think Ryan vs Tank II, is it possible?

[inthelongrun]

If I remember correctly, the first names mentioned right after Pitbull's victory were the other champions, Teofimo, Haney and Matias. And Pitbull said that he wanted to fight them and unify the belts. Tank and Ryan's names will be of course mentioned later on by the media during the post-fight conference. But IMO, Cruz is going to demolish Ryan as well. Ryan and Rolly are popular which is why they can get title fights if they want but I don't think they are championship level. Haney will embarrass Ryan soon if the fight won't get cancelled.

[btc_angela]

If I remember correctly, the first names mentioned right after Pitbull's victory were the other champions, Teofimo, Haney and Matias. And Pitbull said that he wanted to fight them and unify the belts. Tank and Ryan's names will be of course mentioned later on by the media during the post-fight conference. But IMO, Cruz is going to demolish Ryan as well. Ryan and Rolly are popular which is why they can get title fights if they want but I don't think they are championship level. Haney will embarrass Ryan soon if the fight won't get cancelled.

I would say that a Matias first fight for Pitbull will be great. We know that Matias has power, but he lack movement and Cruz will take advantage of it. And as champion now, he has a lot of options, Teo might not willing though, as it is a great risk for him and maybe money is not there.

Agree one Ryan is not a good match for Pitbull as he will demolish. And we are not sure how Ryan can get back once Haney knock him out and embarrass him in their match. We are now in April and fight is getting closer and we do hope that Ryan by now is mentally prepared vs Devin Haney.

[inthelongrun]

If I remember correctly, the first names mentioned right after Pitbull's victory were the other champions, Teofimo, Haney and Matias. And Pitbull said that he wanted to fight them and unify the belts. Tank and Ryan's names will be of course mentioned later on by the media during the post-fight conference. But IMO, Cruz is going to demolish Ryan as well. Ryan and Rolly are popular which is why they can get title fights if they want but I don't think they are championship level. Haney will embarrass Ryan soon if the fight won't get cancelled.

I would say that a Matias first fight for Pitbull will be great. We know that Matias has power, but he lack movement and Cruz will take advantage of it. And as champion now, he has a lot of options, Teo might not willing though, as it is a great risk for him and maybe money is not there.

Agree one Ryan is not a good match for Pitbull as he will demolish. And we are not sure how Ryan can get back once Haney knock him out and embarrass him in their match. We are now in April and fight is getting closer and we do hope that Ryan by now is mentally prepared vs Devin Haney.

Pitbull against Matias for the IBF-WBA unification would be great. But just a few weeks ago Matias signed with Eddie Hearn as his promoter. So I guess it is much easier to make Haney-Matias now because they are in the same network and promotion. But honestly, I consider Pitbull as the weakest among the champions in the division although he is an improvement from the undeserving Rolly. Pitbull is giving up too much size and length and it will be a huge factor against the other champions who has the skills and also the power.

Honestly, I want Ryan to win against Haney. He's got a punchers chance but that's it. As Haney said earlier, maybe him and Ryan are on the same level when they were kids but there's a huge gap at them moment.

[Maslate]

Pitbull against Matias for the IBF-WBA unification would be great. But just a few weeks ago Matias signed with Eddie Hearn as his promoter. So I guess it is much easier to make Haney-Matias now because they are in the same network and promotion. But honestly, I consider Pitbull as the weakest among the champions in the division although he is an improvement from the undeserving Rolly. Pitbull is giving up too much size and length and it will be a huge factor against the other champions who has the skills and also the power.

Same here, I thought Cruz is not the strongest among the champions, so I'm not confident he'll be able to win in a unification match.
Rolly is not even a great champion, so him losing to Cruz is not a surprise since per bookie line before the fight, Cruz was the heavy favorite.

According there https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/839135-tszyu-vs-thurman-rolando-rolly-romero-vs-isaac-pitbull-cruz
Cruz has 84% chance of winning, and they are right.

Honestly, I want Ryan to win against Haney. He's got a punchers chance but that's it. As Haney said earlier, maybe him and Ryan are on the same level when they were kids but there's a huge gap at them moment.

I'm glad that Haney were able to acknowledge that they were on the same level with Ryan before, that's good enough for me to take chances and bet on the underdog.

[Baofeng]

Pitbull against Matias for the IBF-WBA unification would be great. But just a few weeks ago Matias signed with Eddie Hearn as his promoter. So I guess it is much easier to make Haney-Matias now because they are in the same network and promotion. But honestly, I consider Pitbull as the weakest among the champions in the division although he is an improvement from the undeserving Rolly. Pitbull is giving up too much size and length and it will be a huge factor against the other champions who has the skills and also the power.

Same here, I thought Cruz is not the strongest among the champions, so I'm not confident he'll be able to win in a unification match.
Rolly is not even a great champion, so him losing to Cruz is not a surprise since per bookie line before the fight, Cruz was the heavy favorite.

According there https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/839135-tszyu-vs-thurman-rolando-rolly-romero-vs-isaac-pitbull-cruz
Cruz has 84% chance of winning, and they are right.

Honestly, I want Ryan to win against Haney. He's got a punchers chance but that's it. As Haney said earlier, maybe him and Ryan are on the same level when they were kids but there's a huge gap at them moment.

I'm glad that Haney were able to acknowledge that they were on the same level with Ryan before, that's good enough for me to take chances and bet on the underdog.

The odds already favor Cruz to win and that what about right as we have seen the Rolly was just pure hype when he fought Tank Davis.

I would also love to see a unification fight between Matias and Cruz. Both are very strong and relentless or pressure fighter. And if in that kind of style clash, the first one who really hit a home run will probably win the fight. The thing with Pitbull is that he might have a strong chin as compare to Matias.

Yeah, weakness of the 140 lbs champion used to be Rolly Romero and now that he lost the fight then Pitbull Cruz. He might have a tough matchup for other champions, but if they figure him out in the next couple of rounds then I don't see Romero winning with the likes of Haney or Teo Lopez.

[btc_angela]

I know that this is just amateur, but let's take a lot at one of their fights during that day,

https://twitter.com/NashaunDj/status/1775609431197098481

Nothing has change though, Ryan is still no foot work here, and then just relying on his left hook which Haney dodges.

And then Haney throwing those hay makers, but he has improved a lot and those overhand and straight right has vastly improved and that's why he is still undefeated and becoming unified champion at 135 lbs.

[inthelongrun]

I know that this is just amateur, but let's take a lot at one of their fights during that day,

https://twitter.com/NashaunDj/status/1775609431197098481

Nothing has change though, Ryan is still no foot work here, and then just relying on his left hook which Haney dodges.

And then Haney throwing those hay makers, but he has improved a lot and those overhand and straight right has vastly improved and that's why he is still undefeated and becoming unified champion at 135 lbs.

Maybe Ryan fell in love with his power and there was no urge to improve his skills. Maybe he thought it is okay to get hit and behind on points because he knows his power can change the outcome of a fight with a single shot. And Ryan also became a social media personality which allowed him to earn hundreds of thousands every month. That alone made him rich and popular while not needing the money from boxing anymore.

While Haney is not heavy handed, so him and his dad has to develop his skills and technique to win fights. Haney even went to fight in Mexico as a kid during his early days as a pro.

[btc_angela]

I know that this is just amateur, but let's take a lot at one of their fights during that day,

https://twitter.com/NashaunDj/status/1775609431197098481

Nothing has change though, Ryan is still no foot work here, and then just relying on his left hook which Haney dodges.

And then Haney throwing those hay makers, but he has improved a lot and those overhand and straight right has vastly improved and that's why he is still undefeated and becoming unified champion at 135 lbs.

Maybe Ryan fell in love with his power and there was no urge to improve his skills. Maybe he thought it is okay to get hit and behind on points because he knows his power can change the outcome of a fight with a single shot. And Ryan also became a social media personality which allowed him to earn hundreds of thousands every month. That alone made him rich and popular while not needing the money from boxing anymore.

While Haney is not heavy handed, so him and his dad has to develop his skills and technique to win fights. Haney even went to fight in Mexico as a kid during his early days as a pro.

And the official PPV price is $79,99 as expected,

https://www.ppv.com/events/haney-vs-garcia

We also have videos of Ryan surface, him and Youtube influencer Deen the Great doing shadow boxing, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HSg-yi_Hmwk

Haney responded on that video and says that Ryan Garcia looks fat, lol. Ryan though hasn't had history of not making weights although he fought at a catchweight of 138 lbs before.

[bbc.reporter]

This is not about Pitbull being afraid. This is about Pitbull challenging Ryan Garcia, however, what is this challenge about? Is this about money and popularity? Ryan Garcia is not a champion hehehe. King Ry should be the boxer who is issuing these challenges but why is Pitbull treating King Ry like a champion? Pitbull should challenge Teofimo Lopez or Subriel Matías, I reckon.

In any case, on Haney vs. King Ry, I predict that this might not go to the decision. Haney is very much stronger in this higher weight division. King Ry with his mental instability might surrender before round 9.

I guess so, despite Ryan not anymore a champion but his popularity still stay. Every champion wants to fight him to gain more money and I'm sure the same thing happened in the mind of Pitbull. But before that will happen, maybe let's wait for the outcome of the fight (Garcia vs Haney), because if haney will win, what Pitbull wants might be given but if Ryan will wn, you know this guy would ask more and will challenge a fighter that could help him a bigger paycheck, I'm think Ryan vs Tank II, is it possible?

However, how long can King Ry stay very popular? I reckon after more losses, he will not be a good choice as an opponent for boxers who want to become big names in the sport.

On King Ry being a champion vs. Tank Davis 2, I agree! However, King Ry should not make a stupid agreement with a hustler like Tank Davis. Also King Ry will not win vs. Haney. It should be Devin Haney vs. Tank heheheh.

[livingfree]

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

However, how long can King Ry stay very popular? I reckon after more losses, he will not be a good choice as an opponent for boxers who want to become big names in the sport.

If his popularity drops, he should just go on with the YouTuber's boxing match content.

[Dave1]

This is not about Pitbull being afraid. This is about Pitbull challenging Ryan Garcia, however, what is this challenge about? Is this about money and popularity? Ryan Garcia is not a champion hehehe. King Ry should be the boxer who is issuing these challenges but why is Pitbull treating King Ry like a champion? Pitbull should challenge Teofimo Lopez or Subriel Matías, I reckon.

In any case, on Haney vs. King Ry, I predict that this might not go to the decision. Haney is very much stronger in this higher weight division. King Ry with his mental instability might surrender before round 9.

I guess so, despite Ryan not anymore a champion but his popularity still stay. Every champion wants to fight him to gain more money and I'm sure the same thing happened in the mind of Pitbull. But before that will happen, maybe let's wait for the outcome of the fight (Garcia vs Haney), because if haney will win, what Pitbull wants might be given but if Ryan will wn, you know this guy would ask more and will challenge a fighter that could help him a bigger paycheck, I'm think Ryan vs Tank II, is it possible?

However, how long can King Ry stay very popular? I reckon after more losses, he will not be a good choice as an opponent for boxers who want to become big names in the sport.

On King Ry being a champion vs. Tank Davis 2, I agree! However, King Ry should not make a stupid agreement with a hustler like Tank Davis. Also King Ry will not win vs. Haney. It should be Devin Haney vs. Tank heheheh.

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

[Hirose UK]

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

Fight is getting closer and he has to really focus, gambling addiction is not problem but this can have bad impact on the fight because gambling addiction can make him experience mental problems.
If it only about money then whether he wins or loses he will still get share of the payment for the fight against Devin Haney, but this is not about money or bankruptcy after retirement but about his career as boxer.
Ryan Garcia is still young and he is boxer who has very good potential in the long term, mental health must be really taken care of, especially before he made everyone think he was crazy because of his unreasonable attitude.

Previously he had an undefeated record, but when he faced Gervonta Davis, who is also boxer with the same undefeated record, Ryan lost his record because he lost by knockout in the seventh round.
If in the next fight against Devin Haney he experiences mental problems and is not focused on the fight, then it is possible that Devin Haney could cause Ryan to suffer second defeat.
Devin Haney himself has never experienced defeat and has the undisputed champion title, so this is tough fight for Ryan, considering that his current condition is really not what it was before he lost to Gervonta Davis.

[Japinat]

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

Ryan already knows how to stay popular even if he losses, so he will stay and will have more fights. There's no way he will beat Haney, but in case he will, that would make him a top favorites and that champions will dying to fight him due to the big money he could generate in any match up.

Just imagine, this guy already has a possible fight after Haney as he is making noise on Cruz as his possible next opponent, so that's another money coming for him, and Ryan making drama in boxing makes him so popular that fans have invested on his story even though we aren't sure if he is telling the truth or not.

[inthelongrun]

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

Ryan already knows how to stay popular even if he losses, so he will stay and will have more fights. There's no way he will beat Haney, but in case he will, that would make him a top favorites and that champions will dying to fight him due to the big money he could generate in any match up.

Just imagine, this guy already has a possible fight after Haney as he is making noise on Cruz as his possible next opponent, so that's another money coming for him, and Ryan making drama in boxing makes him so popular that fans have invested on his story even though we aren't sure if he is telling the truth or not.

Pacquiao, De La Hoya and the other legends were big PPV stars even when the times they lose because they are championship level fighters. They bounced back and became champions again and again.

Meanwhile Ryan is yet to fight for his title against Haney. I think he made the wrong decision to pick Haney. How will Ryan grabs a belt when his skills are too inferior to the champions holding the belts? If he gets humiliated by Haney, I don't think he will become a PPV star again. Maybe his handlers will try another PPV event in the future again but it will fail until he gets a real belt. The underserving Romero was his biggest chance of grabbing a belt but sadly the politics stopped it from happening. But hopefully, Ryan can land his big bombs on Haney to pull an upset.

[stadus]

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

Ryan already knows how to stay popular even if he losses, so he will stay and will have more fights. There's no way he will beat Haney, but in case he will, that would make him a top favorites and that champions will dying to fight him due to the big money he could generate in any match up.

Just imagine, this guy already has a possible fight after Haney as he is making noise on Cruz as his possible next opponent, so that's another money coming for him, and Ryan making drama in boxing makes him so popular that fans have invested on his story even though we aren't sure if he is telling the truth or not.

Pacquiao, De La Hoya and the other legends were big PPV stars even when the times they lose because they are championship level fighters. They bounced back and became champions again and again.

Meanwhile Ryan is yet to fight for his title against Haney. I think he made the wrong decision to pick Haney. How will Ryan grabs a belt when his skills are too inferior to the champions holding the belts? If he gets humiliated by Haney, I don't think he will become a PPV star again. Maybe his handlers will try another PPV event in the future again but it will fail until he gets a real belt. The underserving Romero was his biggest chance of grabbing a belt but sadly the politics stopped it from happening. But hopefully, Ryan can land his big bombs on Haney to pull an upset.

He took the opportunity to fight the best, so I would say that he is a great boxer who are not afraid of taking a higher risk. If he would not fight Haney, eventually they will still meet in the ring, and maybe he doesn't want to hear criticism from the fans that he is cherry picking fight, it's not his style anymore as there's nothing to be afraid anymore since he is not an undefeated fighter. I guess he still believe that he has a high value, so regardless of the outcome, he is confident that he'll have a big fight waiting for him, and that is another championship fight.

[coin-investor]

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

I heard him say in one press conference that it's a huge responsibility that at a very young age he already making $10 million, Ryan is not matured enough to handle big things, this is why we see an emotional breakdown and a shift of characters, the load is too much for this young guy.

And because of this Haney thinks its an easy fight for him he is unbothered by Ryan's behavior

“Ryan is just another opponent for me. I feel like I’m in competition with greatness,” said Haney. “That’s why I train so hard, and that’s why I work so hard. Even if my opponent isn’t focused. I don’t know if he is or he isn’t. That’s not for us to focus on. I still put my all into getting better and better.”

Source: Devin Haney Embraces Light Welterweight, Dismisses Ryan's Antics - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/devin-haney-embraces-light-welterweight-dismisses-ryans-antics/)

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

[livingfree]

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

Fight is getting closer and he has to really focus, gambling addiction is not problem but this can have bad impact on the fight because gambling addiction can make him experience mental problems.
If it only about money then whether he wins or loses he will still get share of the payment for the fight against Devin Haney, but this is not about money or bankruptcy after retirement but about his career as boxer.
Ryan Garcia is still young and he is boxer who has very good potential in the long term, mental health must be really taken care of, especially before he made everyone think he was crazy because of his unreasonable attitude.

Previously he had an undefeated record, but when he faced Gervonta Davis, who is also boxer with the same undefeated record, Ryan lost his record because he lost by knockout in the seventh round.
If in the next fight against Devin Haney he experiences mental problems and is not focused on the fight, then it is possible that Devin Haney could cause Ryan to suffer second defeat.
Devin Haney himself has never experienced defeat and has the undisputed champion title, so this is tough fight for Ryan, considering that his current condition is really not what it was before he lost to Gervonta Davis.

This might not affect him this time as the fight is already scheduled but this could affect his future matches and career itself. Because of addiction, it's a serious thing that a professional athlete that can ever get involved.

Other boxers might not choose him even if the fans want them to fight because there can be some thoughts that it's going to be not a serious fight and it can all be bought and sold as they box. Well, the typical known and selling out of fight but I am not saying that he's going to do it but the possibility is there but not yet and hoping that it won't happen.

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

I heard him say in one press conference that it's a huge responsibility that at a very young age he already making $10 million, Ryan is not matured enough to handle big things, this is why we see an emotional breakdown and a shift of characters, the load is too much for this young guy.

And because of this Haney thinks its an easy fight for him he is unbothered by Ryan's behavior

“Ryan is just another opponent for me. I feel like I’m in competition with greatness,” said Haney. “That’s why I train so hard, and that’s why I work so hard. Even if my opponent isn’t focused. I don’t know if he is or he isn’t. That’s not for us to focus on. I still put my all into getting better and better.”

Source: Devin Haney Embraces Light Welterweight, Dismisses Ryan's Antics - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/devin-haney-embraces-light-welterweight-dismisses-ryans-antics/)

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

I may not have that $10M right now but for a kid that can earn that much at a young age sure is a lot and he can confidently spend that to anything or any activities like gambling them all along.

So, if he's having some emotional breakdown. Let it all set on the floor of the ring and let the people that doubts him just show his talent and then take care of the rest when the fight's done.

[yazher]

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

[AmoreJaz]

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

Preparation is indeed vital in this sports. Even if you are a clear winner, but you failed to train hard, you can easily be beaten by the underdog. Though Haney has seemingly advantage over Garcia, he needs to work out on his plans inside the ring. You'll never know what you're gonna get once the fight begins.

With the current odds, Haney is the heavy favourite here. And stake is on the side that this fight won't go the distance as well based on the odds. Garcia for sure knows the pulse of the boxing fans and the betting public, so more then likely, he's on the serious side of preparation here to prove what he's got.

[dothebeats]

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

Haney is a defensive fighter too, and not just someone who can throw a punch packing with power. Ryan will have to study all of the guy's moves in the ring if he wants to succeed in taking Haney down. He can go on to use all technicalities and just get points to win via decision, but Haney can do the same and even provoke Garcia to make a mistake that leads to a knockout.

I'm excited to the antics Garcia will bring to this fight. He's known to be a showboater, but have some obvious skills to back up his showboating.

[inthelongrun]

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

Preparation is indeed vital in this sports. Even if you are a clear winner, but you failed to train hard, you can easily be beaten by the underdog. Though Haney has seemingly advantage over Garcia, he needs to work out on his plans inside the ring. You'll never know what you're gonna get once the fight begins.

With the current odds, Haney is the heavy favourite here. And stake is on the side that this fight won't go the distance as well based on the odds. Garcia for sure knows the pulse of the boxing fans and the betting public, so more then likely, he's on the serious side of preparation here to prove what he's got.

That odds for the fight not going the distance is juicy. I might place a bet later. The experts are expecting another Haney decision. But Haney is capable of stopping Ryan here. The discrepancy in skills are too wide and Haney might deform Ryan's face for a stoppage win. And the only way for Ryan to win is by KO/TKO which I am also hoping to happen if he lands his bombs, so I'm taking that bet later.

The difference in boxing to other sports is that fighters records are continuous. There are no resets like next season, next year which is why there are less upsets compared to the other sports. And a lot of fighters will also try to protect their 0. They will train hard for sure unless someone gets exploited like taking a late notice fight.

[Hirose UK]

~snip~

Fight is getting closer and he has to really focus, gambling addiction is not problem but this can have bad impact on the fight because gambling addiction can make him experience mental problems.
If it only about money then whether he wins or loses he will still get share of the payment for the fight against Devin Haney, but this is not about money or bankruptcy after retirement but about his career as boxer.
Ryan Garcia is still young and he is boxer who has very good potential in the long term, mental health must be really taken care of, especially before he made everyone think he was crazy because of his unreasonable attitude.

Previously he had an undefeated record, but when he faced Gervonta Davis, who is also boxer with the same undefeated record, Ryan lost his record because he lost by knockout in the seventh round.
If in the next fight against Devin Haney he experiences mental problems and is not focused on the fight, then it is possible that Devin Haney could cause Ryan to suffer second defeat.
Devin Haney himself has never experienced defeat and has the undisputed champion title, so this is tough fight for Ryan, considering that his current condition is really not what it was before he lost to Gervonta Davis.

This might not affect him this time as the fight is already scheduled but this could affect his future matches and career itself. Because of addiction, it's a serious thing that a professional athlete that can ever get involved.

Other boxers might not choose him even if the fans want them to fight because there can be some thoughts that it's going to be not a serious fight and it can all be bought and sold as they box. Well, the typical known and selling out of fight but I am not saying that he's going to do it but the possibility is there but not yet and hoping that it won't happen.

But when conditions such as addiction cause problems related to mental health, the effects that can be felt don't take long, for now he does look like someone who has experienced these effects and does not rule out the possibility that it could influence the fight that will soon be fought.
There are not 2 weeks left for this fight and indeed both of them are in training camp more actively to prepare themselves for this quite important fight, but no one knows whether Ryan Garcia will be as fit as he was in training camp or not.
What is clear is that now many people are starting to doubt Ryan Garcia and that Devin Haney has the possibility of winning this fight.

Money is everything but winning this fight is very important to be able to remain at the peak of his career with the title he has in store, that way the winner can also have the opportunity to win belt in another division.
Devin Haney stated that he was serious about this fight and he was confident enough to make Ryan Garcia really fall and lose by knockout, after winning, if he really is knockout, Devin Haney also stated that there would be no more rematc.

[stadus]

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

Preparation is indeed vital in this sports. Even if you are a clear winner, but you failed to train hard, you can easily be beaten by the underdog. Though Haney has seemingly advantage over Garcia, he needs to work out on his plans inside the ring. You'll never know what you're gonna get once the fight begins.

With the current odds, Haney is the heavy favourite here. And stake is on the side that this fight won't go the distance as well based on the odds. Garcia for sure knows the pulse of the boxing fans and the betting public, so more then likely, he's on the serious side of preparation here to prove what he's got.

That odds for the fight not going the distance is juicy. I might place a bet later. The experts are expecting another Haney decision. But Haney is capable of stopping Ryan here. The discrepancy in skills are too wide and Haney might deform Ryan's face for a stoppage win. And the only way for Ryan to win is by KO/TKO which I am also hoping to happen if he lands his bombs, so I'm taking that bet later.

The difference in boxing to other sports is that fighters records are continuous. There are no resets like next season, next year which is why there are less upsets compared to the other sports. And a lot of fighters will also try to protect their 0. They will train hard for sure unless someone gets exploited like taking a late notice fight.

Odds does look like Ryan has no chance of winning, I might go for him to win this time. I feel like before Ryan got his 1 defeat, he was another all star boxer, and you can't take that away from him.  I think Haney is just overrated and Ryan got underrated here, so the value is on Ryan. I am not confident of this bet becasue all you are thinking Haney will win, but the odds itself are very tempting which is hard to resist.

[dansus021]

Im rarely watch today boxing but today I just did quick google search about Ryan Garcia and his last match he fight against the Gervonta Davis and loss - "Gervonta Davis knocked out Ryan Garcia in the seventh round with a body shot to Ryan Garcia's right abdomen. After staggering backwards, Ryan Garcia took a knee, holding the right side of his body. The fight was praised by commentators" and If I don't mistaken is this their fist losses and if so this gonna be must watch fight in my opinion

That is his only lost in his career, against Davis but it is at 135 lbs. He won against Oscar Duarte last December and that is his last fight. So he was able to move up in weight after that lost to Davis. And to add to that, there are a lot of clauses in that fight, including rehydration clauses. Meaning even if Ryan can make the 135 lbs, he can't go and fully hydrate himself to whatever weight he is comfortable after the weigh in. And it's obviously has a effect on him as he is weak in the body and that Tank Davis took advantage of it. But now that he moves up and we haven't heard any clauses, hopefully this will be a good fight for boxing fans. However, with Ryan's recent actions, we really don't know if he can win against Haney here as he is a big underdog as per odds. Almost 6:1 now.

Nah, the questions about Ryan Garcia's potential in winning against top elite fighters still remains. Haney will for sure pose another challenge in Ryan's style of fighting as Haney is known for his defensive skills that once he gets ahead of you, he will be able to control the pace of the fight. So, that makes Ryan's speed become less effective. Also, Ryan is known to have a glass chin, which means he has weaker chin that if he got hit by a solid punch in that area, he'd most likely going to fall. I wasn't surprised to see the odds though, it is to be expected. Maybe if he fought Haney first before Davis, the odds might be closer than what we are seeing currently. Though he got an impressive win against Duarte, but Haney is a different opponent though. One thing the boxing fans have noticed about Ryan against Duarte is that he have developed a new defensive technique which is  similar to Mayweather's shoulder roll, but people don't think it would work for a caliber like Haney.

This Ryan Garcia must be famous right I just looked up about him the other day and found out about conspiracy theory that has to do with Bohemian grove or something like that. 
So he famous in boxing and famous in conspiracy too??

[Dave1]

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

Ryan already knows how to stay popular even if he losses, so he will stay and will have more fights. There's no way he will beat Haney, but in case he will, that would make him a top favorites and that champions will dying to fight him due to the big money he could generate in any match up.

Just imagine, this guy already has a possible fight after Haney as he is making noise on Cruz as his possible next opponent, so that's another money coming for him, and Ryan making drama in boxing makes him so popular that fans have invested on his story even though we aren't sure if he is telling the truth or not.

Pacquiao, De La Hoya and the other legends were big PPV stars even when the times they lose because they are championship level fighters. They bounced back and became champions again and again.

Meanwhile Ryan is yet to fight for his title against Haney. I think he made the wrong decision to pick Haney. How will Ryan grabs a belt when his skills are too inferior to the champions holding the belts? If he gets humiliated by Haney, I don't think he will become a PPV star again. Maybe his handlers will try another PPV event in the future again but it will fail until he gets a real belt. The underserving Romero was his biggest chance of grabbing a belt but sadly the politics stopped it from happening. But hopefully, Ryan can land his big bombs on Haney to pull an upset.

It was all for the money I guess that's why he chooses Haney, and so he bypass Romero. If I'm not mistaken, they are 3-3 in the amateurs that Ryan even at pro ranks is very confident that he  can pull a upset at this level of Haney.

So we will see if the risk is not going to pay for Ryan in the future. It's was just my hunch that even if he takes a L here, in his next comeback fight, fans are still go crazy on him maybe it's the way he promoted his fight or his looks and charisma.

[Baofeng]

There will be an open workouts,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3RXzhKaQKw

Good promotion for their fans in the US, and if you watch it Ryan now, there are snippets of their interview and so you can see who is better in hyping the fight. Ryan though is best on what he do, we all just want that to translate in the ring so he really be the next big thing in boxing, not just a big mouth.

[inthelongrun]

There will be an open workouts,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3RXzhKaQKw

Good promotion for their fans in the US, and if you watch it Ryan now, there are snippets of their interview and so you can see who is better in hyping the fight. Ryan though is best on what he do, we all just want that to translate in the ring so he really be the next big thing in boxing, not just a big mouth.

Wow! So it seems like there is no going back for Ryan here. I think he is mentally unstable but maybe it is making him more confident to pull an upset. I hope he wins this one. Only because he is more interesting to watch. I love to see knockouts. It is okay to be defensive but constant hugging like Haney is non interesting to watch.

Of course Ryan can hype his fight more because he is already a social media influencer like Jake Paul. Imagine if Ryan and Mungia wins? Oscar De la Hoya will be the happiest man on earth.

[TravelMug]

There will be an open workouts,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3RXzhKaQKw

Good promotion for their fans in the US, and if you watch it Ryan now, there are snippets of their interview and so you can see who is better in hyping the fight. Ryan though is best on what he do, we all just want that to translate in the ring so he really be the next big thing in boxing, not just a big mouth.

Wow! So it seems like there is no going back for Ryan here. I think he is mentally unstable but maybe it is making him more confident to pull an upset. I hope he wins this one. Only because he is more interesting to watch. I love to see knockouts. It is okay to be defensive but constant hugging like Haney is non interesting to watch.

Of course Ryan can hype his fight more because he is already a social media influencer like Jake Paul. Imagine if Ryan and Mungia wins? Oscar De la Hoya will be the happiest man on earth.

Yeah, it will be the biggest accomplished for Oscar if Ryan and Jaime won their fight as a underdog. Specially Munguia which I think Oscar is still salty when Canelo move out of his GBP and make ton shit of money without him. Yes, this fight is already set with those public workout. Oscar though goes to see Devin Haney and again, somewhat doing what he is at best, trolling. And with Derick James on the side of Ryan, I think he is more confident that ever that a good trainer is behind him, have champions under him, although lately James has a bad record with Errol Spence and Jermell Charlo losing.

[aioc]

Of course Ryan can hype his fight more because he is already a social media influencer like Jake Paul. Imagine if Ryan and Mungia wins? Oscar De la Hoya will be the happiest man on earth.

Not only that will make Oscar the happiest promoter but Ryan believes that if he wins against Haney, which many doubt he will become the face of boxing, he claims to have touched what other boxers have done and that is becoming a social media king

“This is the time, I feel like I am stepping into my prime,” Garcia told DAZN’s YouTube channel. “I feel like in my heart, I am the face of boxing.

But if he loses Ryan will be on his way to oblivion, Ryan thinks of himself as very high and overrated when in fact he hasn't had a significant title since going pro when some of his contemporaries are title holders now.

[Yaunfitda]

Of course Ryan can hype his fight more because he is already a social media influencer like Jake Paul. Imagine if Ryan and Mungia wins? Oscar De la Hoya will be the happiest man on earth.

Not only that will make Oscar the happiest promoter but Ryan believes that if he wins against Haney, which many doubt he will become the face of boxing, he claims to have touched what other boxers have done and that is becoming a social media king

“This is the time, I feel like I am stepping into my prime,” Garcia told DAZN’s YouTube channel. “I feel like in my heart, I am the face of boxing.

But if he loses Ryan will be on his way to oblivion, Ryan thinks of himself as very high and overrated when in fact he hasn't had a significant title since going pro when some of his contemporaries are title holders now.

Talking about prime, yeah, he is indeed in his prime years, but we all know that Haney is also on his peak of this career and so it will really be a clash of style here. It's good to hear that Ryan Garcia is very confident, that's what he always be in his previous fight and he knows to hype it as he become a social media king. But he should confirm his assertions by winning this fight and not just trash talking. In Munguia's case, the same for him, could be in his prime and facing a old but still king of Middleweight and current cash cow Canelo Alvarez. For me this is going to be a close fight as the young Munguia has much to prove.

[Baofeng]

There will be an open workouts,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3RXzhKaQKw

Good promotion for their fans in the US, and if you watch it Ryan now, there are snippets of their interview and so you can see who is better in hyping the fight. Ryan though is best on what he do, we all just want that to translate in the ring so he really be the next big thing in boxing, not just a big mouth.

Wow! So it seems like there is no going back for Ryan here. I think he is mentally unstable but maybe it is making him more confident to pull an upset. I hope he wins this one. Only because he is more interesting to watch. I love to see knockouts. It is okay to be defensive but constant hugging like Haney is non interesting to watch.

Of course Ryan can hype his fight more because he is already a social media influencer like Jake Paul. Imagine if Ryan and Mungia wins? Oscar De la Hoya will be the happiest man on earth.

Yes, he had sign the contract so he shouldn't back out from this fight. I do agree, it seems that Ryan mental issues is still there because the signs are all in his post and even in the kick off presser, he seems to be off. So in any case, this could be at least entertaining fight for us boxing fans?

I do agree that we don't want to see a fight wherein both are hugging or the other one is playing defense and on his bicycle the whole fight. But knowing Haney, which for me has the confidence base on his showing against Prograis that he has power at 140 lbs and possible to put Ryan Garcia on the canvass for good.

[Kemarit]

And it's just one week from this fight. But there are mix emotions whether tickets are going to be sold out or not. Garcia blame it all on Devin as he is not a crowd draw and it's just himself selling the fights.

On the other hand, fight is in New York, and the price is very expensive.

We will see then, if I'm not mistaken, the stadium can hold 19,000 so that is a lot of tickets to be sold.

[inthelongrun]

And it's just one week from this fight. But there are mix emotions whether tickets are going to be sold out or not. Garcia blame it all on Devin as he is not a crowd draw and it's just himself selling the fights.

On the other hand, fight is in New York, and the price is very expensive.

We will see then, if I'm not mistaken, the stadium can hold 19,000 so that is a lot of tickets to be sold.

It's just very expensive in New York. I remember checking tickets for their NBA team New York Knicks. That time the team was mediocre but the tickets are still more expensive than some of the top teams in the league.

Anyways, maybe it won't be sold out but pretty sure it should do decent PPV numbers if not great. But I do agree that Haney does not sell PPVs. Because he is obviously boring to watch. His last fight was sold out because he is a native of San Francisco. What makes a fighter really marketable is its ability to sell PPVs worldwide.

[Distinctin]

And it's just one week from this fight. But there are mix emotions whether tickets are going to be sold out or not. Garcia blame it all on Devin as he is not a crowd draw and it's just himself selling the fights.

On the other hand, fight is in New York, and the price is very expensive.

We will see then, if I'm not mistaken, the stadium can hold 19,000 so that is a lot of tickets to be sold.

It's just very expensive in New York. I remember checking tickets for their NBA team New York Knicks. That time the team was mediocre but the tickets are still more expensive than some of the top teams in the league.

Anyways, maybe it won't be sold out but pretty sure it should do decent PPV numbers if not great. But I do agree that Haney does not sell PPVs. Because he is obviously boring to watch. His last fight was sold out because he is a native of San Francisco. What makes a fighter really marketable is its ability to sell PPVs worldwide.

According to this article below, they are not selling well.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/ticket-sales-for-haney-vs-garcia-a-trainwreck-in-slow-motion/

Price Drops = Panic Mode Recently, in a desperation move, DAZN dropped the PPV price from $80 to $69.99 for the Haney vs. Garcia event. But that might not be enough to save this sinking ship of the event. With 12 days to go, DAZN might need to slash the prices in half for the event to save this vessel from going under completely.

Source: Ticket Sales For Haney Vs. Garcia: A Trainwreck In Slow Motion - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/ticket-sales-for-haney-vs-garcia-a-trainwreck-in-slow-motion/)

Haney choose Garcia to get a good PPV numbers but it seems like it's not doing well. It's different from the fight of Garcia vs Davis because both are warriors, not boring to watch in short. This fight, Haney is just too good and since he is expected to control the fight, it is also expected that it will go his way and would result to a boring fight.

[bbc.reporter]

@Distinctin. I very much agree. Also, I give more respect to King Ry because he was not getting an advantage through the contract terms. Tank Davis should not be a respected boxer because he only wants money and a sure win in boxing. He is not in this sport to create a legacy. He does not deserve our money, he is similar to an ICO scammer.

Has everyone witnessed the fight of Max Holloway vs. Justin Gaethje on UFC 300? Max and Justin deserves much respect! They are real fighters who go through the storm. I wish we will witness something similar for Haney vs. King Ry hehehehe. But this will be impossible.

[Yaunfitda]

And so with the tickets not selling, Ryan has to go troll Haney again with this kind of words, Lol,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1780276293021372912

Ryan though, you really don't know what's inside of that mind. There were moments he look serious and everything he says is good. Then majority are like this one, most likely he just want to be controversial and to create more hype because if the news is true that they are not selling tickets, then he has to do something to carry the load and bring it to the masses or at least put some noises again.

[TravelMug]

@Distinctin. I very much agree. Also, I give more respect to King Ry because he was not getting an advantage through the contract terms. Tank Davis should not be a respected boxer because he only wants money and a sure win in boxing. He is not in this sport to create a legacy. He does not deserve our money, he is similar to an ICO scammer.

And him and his camp wanted to protect him, and so they run into this rehydration clause on Ryan so that they will have all the advantage and Ryan can't do anything because he is the B-side but just wanted to take this fight anyway.

Has everyone witnessed the fight of Max Holloway vs. Justin Gaethje on UFC 300? Max and Justin deserves much respect! They are real fighters who go through the storm. I wish we will witness something similar for Haney vs. King Ry hehehehe. But this will be impossible.

Those are two warriors in the ring and we respect that. But we can't compare this to Ryan and Devin, sure they are going to engage at some point, but I'm not seeing that kind of mano-a-mano fight. Devin will have to defend and then Ryan chasing him and be caught by Haney's jab or his power, his right hand.

[Kemarit]

And it's just one week from this fight. But there are mix emotions whether tickets are going to be sold out or not. Garcia blame it all on Devin as he is not a crowd draw and it's just himself selling the fights.

On the other hand, fight is in New York, and the price is very expensive.

We will see then, if I'm not mistaken, the stadium can hold 19,000 so that is a lot of tickets to be sold.

It's just very expensive in New York. I remember checking tickets for their NBA team New York Knicks. That time the team was mediocre but the tickets are still more expensive than some of the top teams in the league.

Anyways, maybe it won't be sold out but pretty sure it should do decent PPV numbers if not great. But I do agree that Haney does not sell PPVs. Because he is obviously boring to watch. His last fight was sold out because he is a native of San Francisco. What makes a fighter really marketable is its ability to sell PPVs worldwide.

According to this article below, they are not selling well.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/ticket-sales-for-haney-vs-garcia-a-trainwreck-in-slow-motion/

Price Drops = Panic Mode Recently, in a desperation move, DAZN dropped the PPV price from $80 to $69.99 for the Haney vs. Garcia event. But that might not be enough to save this sinking ship of the event. With 12 days to go, DAZN might need to slash the prices in half for the event to save this vessel from going under completely.

Source: Ticket Sales For Haney Vs. Garcia: A Trainwreck In Slow Motion - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/ticket-sales-for-haney-vs-garcia-a-trainwreck-in-slow-motion/)

Haney choose Garcia to get a good PPV numbers but it seems like it's not doing well. It's different from the fight of Garcia vs Davis because both are warriors, not boring to watch in short. This fight, Haney is just too good and since he is expected to control the fight, it is also expected that it will go his way and would result to a boring fight.

And this could really be the point of contention of Ryan as we have heard news that he might pull out because of poor tickets sales. But it's done now, he might have to blame Oscar again for putting the fight in New York.

Most likely this is the reason as well why Garcia is trolling Haney in his last Twitter post.

It's funny that you will really need to pass and not get all serious with all the Ryan's tweet recently. Although it shows that there could be another mental breakdown coming in his fight after this fight.

[bbc.reporter]

And so with the tickets not selling, Ryan has to go troll Haney again with this kind of words, Lol,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1780276293021372912

Ryan though, you really don't know what's inside of that mind. There were moments he look serious and everything he says is good. Then majority are like this one, most likely he just want to be controversial and to create more hype because if the news is true that they are not selling tickets, then he has to do something to carry the load and bring it to the masses or at least put some noises again.

It is also very head shaking that the boxing fans in this forum are more excited to watch an old man fight against a youtuber from Disney. I am like this also hehehehehe. Boxing should use more money to promote fights between the best boxers of the highest ranks. However, I reckon this sport is presently not on being the best boxer anymore. This has become a sport for attention and money only. It is difficult for the fans to witness who is the best in this sport.

@TravelMug. I very much agree. Devin Haney appears to not have pillow fists in this higher weight division heheheh.

[TravelMug]

^^ Yes, probably this is the best version of Haney that we might see, at 140-147 lbs, he will be no longer a pillow fisted fighter and at the same time can absorb punches too as he is no longer weight drain during his 135 lbs version. As for why the fans wanted a old legendary boxer against a Youtuber, it's all on the hype and how they promote it. I think being a legendary boxer, fans still wants if he can pull the trigger. Or on the other hand, there are fans who want to see that Youtuber be humbled by the legendary boxer. In any case, this fight is still a must see for casual and hard core boxing fans. Two young fighters in their prime, who have their rivalry in their amateur days and still up in the pro ranks bitter rivals.

[Yaunfitda]

And so with the tickets not selling, Ryan has to go troll Haney again with this kind of words, Lol,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1780276293021372912

Ryan though, you really don't know what's inside of that mind. There were moments he look serious and everything he says is good. Then majority are like this one, most likely he just want to be controversial and to create more hype because if the news is true that they are not selling tickets, then he has to do something to carry the load and bring it to the masses or at least put some noises again.

It is also very head shaking that the boxing fans in this forum are more excited to watch an old man fight against a youtuber from Disney. I am like this also hehehehehe. Boxing should use more money to promote fights between the best boxers of the highest ranks. However, I reckon this sport is presently not on being the best boxer anymore. This has become a sport for attention and money only. It is difficult for the fans to witness who is the best in this sport.

Boxing is a business now, we have promoters very greedy and wanted millions in every fight and so it trickle down to the boxers themselves. Floyd has started it, separating from Bob Arum and become the promoter himself. And so it sets up the blue print of the next generation and then trying to protect their 0 (like what he did to Davis career), and not facing the best unless they are going to be satisfied on how much money they will get. But we have the Saudi's though being the mediator of big fights and every promoter and boxers dream to be in that space because of the rich oil money flowing into our sports.

[Baofeng]

And Haney got his revenge,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY

Before it was Ryan Garcia who smuck Haney in their first encounter, and now that the fight is official, they have this face off at Empire State and then this happens. You can see the face of Oscar though, concerned about what happened but Garcia just shrug it off and just love the animosity between them.

[aioc]

And Haney got his revenge,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY

Before it was Ryan Garcia who smuck Haney in their first encounter, and now that the fight is official, they have this face off at Empire State and then this happens. You can see the face of Oscar though, concerned about what happened but Garcia just shrug it off and just love the animosity between them.

Officials should see to it that no untoward incident happens, heading to the date of the match, there's a possibility of a brawl because both fighters hate each other, the worst that could happen is one gets hurt and the match canceled and rescheduled, nobody wants this to happen we have been excited in discussing this match for months and we don't want to end in cancellation, this match is four years in the making.
This is where it all started

Ryan Garcia & Devin Haney Face-Off, Exchange Words Ahead of Potential Fight

[OgNasty]

And Haney got his revenge,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY

Before it was Ryan Garcia who smuck Haney in their first encounter, and now that the fight is official, they have this face off at Empire State and then this happens. You can see the face of Oscar though, concerned about what happened but Garcia just shrug it off and just love the animosity between them.

Officials should see to it that no untoward incident happens, heading to the date of the match, there's a possibility of a brawl because both fighters hate each other, the worst that could happen is one gets hurt and the match canceled and rescheduled, nobody wants this to happen we have been excited in discussing this match for months and we don't want to end in cancellation, this match is four years in the making.
This is where it all started

Ryan Garcia & Devin Haney Face-Off, Exchange Words Ahead of Potential Fight

I don't even think they both hate each other.  I think Devin Haney is disappointed that the promotion leading up to his fight is basically just Ryan Garcia displaying mental illness on social media for clicks.  I'm sure this isn't what Devin was expecting when he agreed to this fight and was hoping for some more typical promotion.  Meanwhile it seems like Ryan Garcia realizes that his career has taken a nose dive and if he doesn't do something spectacular for attention, he'd just drift away and he doesn't want that.  I expect more crazy tweets and more public stunts leading up to this fight, but in the end when Ryan loses it will be clear that people have had enough of him.

[Kemarit]

^^ Tit-for-tat. Ryan never even reacted to it and seems enjoying every moment of it. So another promotion, and yes to hype as it seems that Ryan has achieved it. Looking at social medias and boxing forum alike, it has been the talk of the town.

Nevertheless, will it translate to the actual fight? That it could either motivate Haney and Garcia to really hate each other and look for a knockout and give the fans a good fight? And there are videos of Haney saying that he is willing to go to war and the older Haney issuing "death threats" to Ryan, LOL. So that's how crazy both of them are promoting this fight and to captivate the boxing audience.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

And Haney got his revenge,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY

Before it was Ryan Garcia who smuck Haney in their first encounter, and now that the fight is official, they have this face off at Empire State and then this happens. You can see the face of Oscar though, concerned about what happened but Garcia just shrug it off and just love the animosity between them.

Officials should see to it that no untoward incident happens, heading to the date of the match, there's a possibility of a brawl because both fighters hate each other, the worst that could happen is one gets hurt and the match canceled and rescheduled, nobody wants this to happen we have been excited in discussing this match for months and we don't want to end in cancellation, this match is four years in the making.
This is where it all started

Ryan Garcia & Devin Haney Face-Off, Exchange Words Ahead of Potential Fight

I don't even think they both hate each other.  I think Devin Haney is disappointed that the promotion leading up to his fight is basically just Ryan Garcia displaying mental illness on social media for clicks.  I'm sure this isn't what Devin was expecting when he agreed to this fight and was hoping for some more typical promotion.  Meanwhile it seems like Ryan Garcia realizes that his career has taken a nose dive and if he doesn't do something spectacular for attention, he'd just drift away and he doesn't want that.  I expect more crazy tweets and more public stunts leading up to this fight, but in the end when Ryan loses it will be clear that people have had enough of him.

Probably but Haney should have known that Ryan Garcia has history of mental illness already. And it was reported that he agreed on a 55-45 split, Garcia getting the lion share of the pay cut. And so it make sense the Ryan will do everything to promote the fight itself with his insane tweets and publicity stunts leading up to the fight.

Ryan knows how to bring fans to this fight, but if the reports are true that tickets are not sold out? We still have a couple of days and most likely it will be just a couple of hundreds of tickets and it could still be a block buster fight and another great PPV numbers so let's see.

[bbc.reporter]

And Haney got his revenge,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY

Before it was Ryan Garcia who smuck Haney in their first encounter, and now that the fight is official, they have this face off at Empire State and then this happens. You can see the face of Oscar though, concerned about what happened but Garcia just shrug it off and just love the animosity between them.

The winner of this encounter is the person who did not make the first push. It was was certainly Ryan Garcia because he did not get angry and he manipulated to make Haney angry. However, we can also be quite certain that it will be different in the boxing ring hehehe. I wish Derrick James trained King Ry to have a chance. I do not want a fight that is something similar to the scam Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia.

[Oasisman]

^^ Tit-for-tat. Ryan never even reacted to it and seems enjoying every moment of it. So another promotion, and yes to hype as it seems that Ryan has achieved it. Looking at social medias and boxing forum alike, it has been the talk of the town.

Nevertheless, will it translate to the actual fight? That it could either motivate Haney and Garcia to really hate each other and look for a knockout and give the fans a good fight? And there are videos of Haney saying that he is willing to go to war and the older Haney issuing "death threats" to Ryan, LOL. So that's how crazy both of them are promoting this fight and to captivate the boxing audience.

That's the question, will it really translate to the fight? Because Ryan seems like he's giving all the best he can to make a stunt in the social media and try to get the hype keep coming, especially with that deal they made that Ryan will retire if he get knocked down in the first round. Well, that's sounds really interesting to anyone who's a boxing fan and looking to have like an action packed kind of match from round 1 until the 12th, since this might ignite a fire on Haney's end to really knock Ryan down in the first round. However, clearly, Ryan was just making a really really loud noise to redeem himself back after being defeated by Davis and clearly he won't let himself knocked down in the first round. So, I don't expect him to retaliate against Haney who is known to be a defensive fighter and a bit picky with his shots.

[FinneysTrueVision]

And so with the tickets not selling, Ryan has to go troll Haney again with this kind of words, Lol,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1780276293021372912

Ryan though, you really don't know what's inside of that mind. There were moments he look serious and everything he says is good. Then majority are like this one, most likely he just want to be controversial and to create more hype because if the news is true that they are not selling tickets, then he has to do something to carry the load and bring it to the masses or at least put some noises again.

Just when you think Ryan Garcia can’t get anymore cringeworthy, he comes out with a dumb statement like this. These guys are only turning fans away from boxing with these antics. The way they are promoting this fight has been disastrous. It is no wonder there are still so many tickets available. Ryan needs to be psychiatrically evaluated before he is allowed to fight for a world championship.

[Questat]

And so with the tickets not selling, Ryan has to go troll Haney again with this kind of words, Lol,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1780276293021372912

Ryan though, you really don't know what's inside of that mind. There were moments he look serious and everything he says is good. Then majority are like this one, most likely he just want to be controversial and to create more hype because if the news is true that they are not selling tickets, then he has to do something to carry the load and bring it to the masses or at least put some noises again.

Just when you think Ryan Garcia can’t get anymore cringeworthy, he comes out with a dumb statement like this. These guys are only turning fans away from boxing with these antics. The way they are promoting this fight has been disastrous. It is no wonder there are still so many tickets available. Ryan needs to be psychiatrically evaluated before he is allowed to fight for a world championship.

I think it's not his style of promoting that has been a problem as it he never change, on his fight with Tank Davis, he was already trash talking, so it's not new to him. This is not about the promotion it's about how fans sees this fight will go, because fans believe that Haney would be dictating and will just beat Ryan, there's no interest anymore  as it will just turn out to be a boring one no matter how they hype this fight.

If the odds are 50/50, I might say the tickets will be sold out, but it's not.

[Yaunfitda]

And so with the tickets not selling, Ryan has to go troll Haney again with this kind of words, Lol,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1780276293021372912

Ryan though, you really don't know what's inside of that mind. There were moments he look serious and everything he says is good. Then majority are like this one, most likely he just want to be controversial and to create more hype because if the news is true that they are not selling tickets, then he has to do something to carry the load and bring it to the masses or at least put some noises again.

Just when you think Ryan Garcia can’t get anymore cringeworthy, he comes out with a dumb statement like this. These guys are only turning fans away from boxing with these antics. The way they are promoting this fight has been disastrous. It is no wonder there are still so many tickets available. Ryan needs to be psychiatrically evaluated before he is allowed to fight for a world championship.

I agree, the more he promoted this fight with his absurd actions, the more fans might not want to see. I even saw those fans online saying that they are going to boycott the fight? Like this,



https://twitter.com/RayJack97010720/status/1780637091266801928

Although that fan is a troll as well for all I know, it could be true that there could be fans not wanting to buy tickets because of Ryan Garcia's antics. I think they will be evaluated physically and mentally, it's just the question whether he could pass the test or not.

[robelneo]

And so with the tickets not selling, Ryan has to go troll Haney again with this kind of words, Lol,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1780276293021372912

Ryan though, you really don't know what's inside of that mind. There were moments he look serious and everything he says is good. Then majority are like this one, most likely he just want to be controversial and to create more hype because if the news is true that they are not selling tickets, then he has to do something to carry the load and bring it to the masses or at least put some noises again.

Just when you think Ryan Garcia can’t get anymore cringeworthy, he comes out with a dumb statement like this. These guys are only turning fans away from boxing with these antics. The way they are promoting this fight has been disastrous. It is no wonder there are still so many tickets available. Ryan needs to be psychiatrically evaluated before he is allowed to fight for a world championship.

I agree, the more he promoted this fight with his absurd actions, the more fans might not want to see. I even saw those fans online saying that they are going to boycott the fight? 

Although that fan is a troll as well for all I know, it could be true that there could be fans not wanting to buy tickets because of Ryan Garcia's antics. I think they will be evaluated physically and mentally, it's just the question whether he could pass the test or not.

Evrything is not going Ryan's way leading to the fight he is acting very desperate trying to show to people that he can beat Haney easily just check this article its a compilation of the experts' prediction of the match between Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney and based on these predictions Haney overwhelmingly won

Final Tally: Haney 18-1-1

FIGHT PICKS: DEVIN HANEY VS. RYAN GARCIA

I agree with these predictions based on their style past performance and records, Haney is hands down the winner of this fight, but of course we'll still have to see this happen and its only two days to go.

[bittraffic]

Ryan's mental health has already gotten worse since the time he tried exposing Hollywood stuff. Although there may be celebrities and fans supporting him. He just looks more derailed. But why boycott?

Now that there are death threats, I actually think the fight will be more brutal, and I would hope there is no early KO because it will just be disappointing.

[yazher]

Ryan's mental health has already gotten worse since the time he tried exposing Hollywood stuff. Although there may be celebrities and fans supporting him. He just looks more derailed. But why boycott?

Now that there are death threats, I actually think the fight will be more brutal, and I would hope there is no early KO because it will just be disappointing.

After all the controversy he exposed, he was just facing a decline dramatically that's because the fans didn't want to support him on whatever he said during his life, I don't know why but he just said some good things right there and he just wants to raise awareness though. I think he wanted to become Muhammad Ali and he is not only a champion but someone that has charisma that people want to listen to as well. After all, he is a boxer, and whatever he wants to be, he needs to establish virtues and merits in boxing first so that he will gain more popularity despite all the hate he gets right now.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Ryan's mental health has already gotten worse since the time he tried exposing Hollywood stuff. Although there may be celebrities and fans supporting him. He just looks more derailed. But why boycott?

Now that there are death threats, I actually think the fight will be more brutal, and I would hope there is no early KO because it will just be disappointing.

After all the controversy he exposed, he was just facing a decline dramatically that's because the fans didn't want to support him on whatever he said during his life, I don't know why but he just said some good things right there and he just wants to raise awareness though. I think he wanted to become Muhammad Ali and he is not only a champion but someone that has charisma that people want to listen to as well. After all, he is a boxer, and whatever he wants to be, he needs to establish virtues and merits in boxing first so that he will gain more popularity despite all the hate he gets right now.

He already had the charisma, the looks, like Oscar. But what he lacks in the full commitment in the sports that he excel. Sure as a amateur him and Haney has fight and the score is 3-3. But in the pro it was all different, as Haney work his ass off to become a champion, although there could be critics on his style, but we should give the man the props.

As compare to Ryan who has been carefully hype by Oscar, no belts on his waist, just pure hype in every fight because he knows how to promote and sell and bring fans to watch him. But he become so silly in promoting this fight that the history of his mental capacity is being question again. So it's not good for him, the potential is there, but if doesn't want to go the hard work like any other great boxers, all the hype will be gone.

[Kemarit]

Here is the final press conference of the fight,



Good to see that it is finally going to happen, Oscar says that the tickets is selling so be it. So this is game 7, 3-3 on amateur so obviously, this is going to settle everything and the winner going to be the face of boxing.

And there is a side bet of $500,000 that Ryan will not make the weight according to the Haney's.

So let's see tomorrow in the weigh-in and then in the actual fight.

[robelneo]

Here is the final press conference of the fight,



Good to see that it is finally going to happen, Oscar says that the tickets is selling so be it. So this is game 7, 3-3 on amateur so obviously, this is going to settle everything and the winner going to be the face of boxing.

The amateur fights have no bearing here, Haney improved a lot on his craft, while I couldn't say the same with Ryan, not the face of boxing but a step to being one, he needs to beat Tank first because Tank has a claim to be the face of boxing.

And there is a side bet of $500,000 that Ryan will not make the weight according to the Haney's.

So let's see tomorrow in the weigh-in and then in the actual fight.

If Ryan cannot make the weigh-in it just proves that he is not all that serious about his training and discipline and it validates our concern that he is not ready for that top-level fight with a guy with top-level skill

[Questat]

And there is a side bet of $500,000 that Ryan will not make the weight according to the Haney's.

So let's see tomorrow in the weigh-in and then in the actual fight.

If Ryan cannot make the weigh-in it just proves that he is not all that serious about his training and discipline and it validates our concern that he is not ready for that top-level fight with a guy with top-level skill

That's crazy, who would be throwing $500k for a no chance bet. Haney is just wasting money on that bet if that is true, but I highly doubt it is.

Anyway, time flies, this will be the next 2 days and I still think that Ryan is gonna give a good fight with Haney, we will see the unusual like Haney is dictating the fight. Ryan had the seize and length to match Haney, so this should not be a wall in the park for Haney.

[bbc.reporter]

And so with the tickets not selling, Ryan has to go troll Haney again with this kind of words, Lol,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1780276293021372912

Ryan though, you really don't know what's inside of that mind. There were moments he look serious and everything he says is good. Then majority are like this one, most likely he just want to be controversial and to create more hype because if the news is true that they are not selling tickets, then he has to do something to carry the load and bring it to the masses or at least put some noises again.

Just when you think Ryan Garcia can’t get anymore cringeworthy, he comes out with a dumb statement like this. These guys are only turning fans away from boxing with these antics. The way they are promoting this fight has been disastrous. It is no wonder there are still so many tickets available. Ryan needs to be psychiatrically evaluated before he is allowed to fight for a world championship.

I agree, the more he promoted this fight with his absurd actions, the more fans might not want to see. I even saw those fans online saying that they are going to boycott the fight? Like this,



https://twitter.com/RayJack97010720/status/1780637091266801928

Although that fan is a troll as well for all I know, it could be true that there could be fans not wanting to buy tickets because of Ryan Garcia's antics. I think they will be evaluated physically and mentally, it's just the question whether he could pass the test or not.

Do not be tricked by this boycott. This is only part of another marketing roadmap that they use to make more people more curious for this fight hehehe. I reckon that after King Ry's loss against Tank Davis, he needed to create a new personality for himself to make the fans react and talk about Ryan. This boycott implies that it is working! I very much wish Ryan will reach the decision and make the fight a split decision. This will certainly make fans question the capability of Devin Haney.

[Finestream]

Do not be tricked by this boycott. This is only part of another marketing roadmap that they use to make more people more curious for this fight hehehe. I reckon that after King Ry's loss against Tank Davis, he needed to create a new personality for himself to make the fans react and talk about Ryan. This boycott implies that it is working! I very much wish Ryan will reach the decision and make the fight a split decision. This will certainly make fans question the capability of Devin Haney.

nice catch @bbc.reporter ... that's just certainly a marketing strategy.. why would someone wants it boycotted when it's not even selling well? They just want that fight to gain more attention so the tickets will be sold. This will be happening few days from now, so that could be a desperate marketing strat from their promoters. Anyway, we don't need to wait longer, the outcome of this fight will dictate the future of Ryan, because if he loss, he'll go back again and will try to create another hype until his strategy will not work.

[Baofeng]

And there is a side bet of $500,000 that Ryan will not make the weight according to the Haney's.

So let's see tomorrow in the weigh-in and then in the actual fight.

If Ryan cannot make the weigh-in it just proves that he is not all that serious about his training and discipline and it validates our concern that he is not ready for that top-level fight with a guy with top-level skill

That's crazy, who would be throwing $500k for a no chance bet. Haney is just wasting money on that bet if that is true, but I highly doubt it is.

Anyway, time flies, this will be the next 2 days and I still think that Ryan is gonna give a good fight with Haney, we will see the unusual like Haney is dictating the fight. Ryan had the seize and length to match Haney, so this should not be a wall in the park for Haney.

I agree, I don't think it make sense for this kind of bet, but who knows, this could be real or another way to promote the fight and see if Ryan can make the actual weight. Not sure what Ryan has that weight vest on him even yesterday. And it probably triggers Devin Haney to speculate that Ryan is still very much off the contractual weight of 140 lbs as there are rumor that he is walking about 147-150 lbs.

So we will see tomorrow, It could be game 7 for this two, but I don't think that the amateur fights can be counted. But good to mention by Oscar, again, Oscar knows who to promote and sell his fights and so he is trying to picture that this fight will decide who will be the face of boxing.

[Yaunfitda]

Do not be tricked by this boycott. This is only part of another marketing roadmap that they use to make more people more curious for this fight hehehe. I reckon that after King Ry's loss against Tank Davis, he needed to create a new personality for himself to make the fans react and talk about Ryan. This boycott implies that it is working! I very much wish Ryan will reach the decision and make the fight a split decision. This will certainly make fans question the capability of Devin Haney.

nice catch @bbc.reporter ... that's just certainly a marketing strategy.. why would someone wants it boycotted when it's not even selling well? They just want that fight to gain more attention so the tickets will be sold. This will be happening few days from now, so that could be a desperate marketing strat from their promoters. Anyway, we don't need to wait longer, the outcome of this fight will dictate the future of Ryan, because if he loss, he'll go back again and will try to create another hype until his strategy will not work.

Of course, but if this guy part of their marketing ploy? If you have followed him on Twitter, he is a obvious troll and everyone including Crawford was responding to Ray Jackson. But as far as the tickets goes, we will see, Oscar again is saying otherwise in the press conference and tell us that almost all tickets have been sold except for a few. Anyhow, we are almost here now, despite the trash talk, the lack of selling sales and other way they promoted this fight, still boils down to this two inside the ring. Both are very confident but Garcia is still a huge betting underdog.

[coin-investor]

Do not be tricked by this boycott. This is only part of another marketing roadmap that they use to make more people more curious for this fight hehehe. I reckon that after King Ry's loss against Tank Davis, he needed to create a new personality for himself to make the fans react and talk about Ryan. This boycott implies that it is working! I very much wish Ryan will reach the decision and make the fight a split decision. This will certainly make fans question the capability of Devin Haney.

nice catch @bbc.reporter ... that's just certainly a marketing strategy.. why would someone wants it boycotted when it's not even selling well? They just want that fight to gain more attention so the tickets will be sold. This will be happening few days from now, so that could be a desperate marketing strat from their promoters. Anyway, we don't need to wait longer, the outcome of this fight will dictate the future of Ryan, because if he loss, he'll go back again and will try to create another hype until his strategy will not work.

Of course, but if this guy part of their marketing ploy? If you have followed him on Twitter, he is a obvious troll and everyone including Crawford was responding to Ray Jackson. But as far as the tickets goes, we will see, Oscar again is saying otherwise in the press conference and tell us that almost all tickets have been sold except for a few. Anyhow, we are almost here now, despite the trash talk, the lack of selling sales and other way they promoted this fight, still boils down to this two inside the ring. Both are very confident but Garcia is still a huge betting underdog.

Until the last days before the fight, well we still have the weigh-in It is full of drama and controversy Ryan is full of the hype I have never seen him so hype he is forcing himself and wants to be in the spotlight always on everything he does, the weigh-in I'm sure will be full of drama that will end all drama Ryan created so its something worth waiting.

If Ryan is like this before the fight where he is super hype, what, more on the actual fight we will be disappointed if Ryan cannot walk his talk he is just acting like this is an easy fight, that he is in excellent condition and he is strong than Haney, he talks proudly about knocking out Haney in round two so let's see if he is going to shock the world or he will be shocked to see how good Haney is

[Dave1]

Do not be tricked by this boycott. This is only part of another marketing roadmap that they use to make more people more curious for this fight hehehe. I reckon that after King Ry's loss against Tank Davis, he needed to create a new personality for himself to make the fans react and talk about Ryan. This boycott implies that it is working! I very much wish Ryan will reach the decision and make the fight a split decision. This will certainly make fans question the capability of Devin Haney.

nice catch @bbc.reporter ... that's just certainly a marketing strategy.. why would someone wants it boycotted when it's not even selling well? They just want that fight to gain more attention so the tickets will be sold. This will be happening few days from now, so that could be a desperate marketing strat from their promoters. Anyway, we don't need to wait longer, the outcome of this fight will dictate the future of Ryan, because if he loss, he'll go back again and will try to create another hype until his strategy will not work.

Of course, but if this guy part of their marketing ploy? If you have followed him on Twitter, he is a obvious troll and everyone including Crawford was responding to Ray Jackson. But as far as the tickets goes, we will see, Oscar again is saying otherwise in the press conference and tell us that almost all tickets have been sold except for a few. Anyhow, we are almost here now, despite the trash talk, the lack of selling sales and other way they promoted this fight, still boils down to this two inside the ring. Both are very confident but Garcia is still a huge betting underdog.

Until the last days before the fight, well we still have the weigh-in It is full of drama and controversy Ryan is full of the hype I have never seen him so hype he is forcing himself and wants to be in the spotlight always on everything he does, the weigh-in I'm sure will be full of drama that will end all drama Ryan created so its something worth waiting.

If Ryan is like this before the fight where he is super hype, what, more on the actual fight we will be disappointed if Ryan cannot walk his talk he is just acting like this is an easy fight, that he is in excellent condition and he is strong than Haney, he talks proudly about knocking out Haney in round two so let's see if he is going to shock the world or he will be shocked to see how good Haney is

And this is what Haney says on why he push Ryan prior to the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hV-3usSN4z4

Like any other trash talker, he brought up something that is dear to everyone's heart like a mother or a wife. And so I think Ryan has crossed the line and usually this boxers are going to make the fight personal. I remember Mayorga vs Dela Hoya, Mayorga was a trash talker and he like Ryan cross the line when he talk about Oscar's wife and him being a "Maricon". And so Oscar knock him down in that fight, round 9 or 10 if I still remember it correctly. So maybe in this fight, Haney will really look for a knockout.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Devin Haney is going to seriously outclass Ryan "cokehead" Garcia, it’s going to be a massacre.

Here is the link for the weigh in tonight at 7pm BST @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xYNFca-ExM

Fight odds @ https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/haney-devin-v-garcia-ryan-65c6619faafd2b0001761567

[OgNasty]

I didn’t watch the weigh in but Devin Haney tweeted that Ryan Garcia didn’t make weight… I guess he missed it by 3 pounds! That’s insane. Ryan hasn’t taken anything about this fight from the beginning. Now it looks like it might not even happen. Bummer. I needed Ryan to lose as the last leg in a long parlay…

[coin-investor]

I didn’t watch the weigh in but Devin Haney tweeted that Ryan Garcia didn’t make weight… I guess he missed it by 3 pounds! That’s insane. Ryan hasn’t taken anything about this fight from the beginning. Now it looks like it might not even happen. Bummer. I needed Ryan to lose as the last leg in a long parlay…

They are still negotiating to make the fight happen and it seems he is not eligible to fight for the title since he and Haney had a bet of $500k per pound Ryan is going to lose $1.5 million if I'm not mistaken.
We are all surprised by this development, after all the talks and all the dramas Ryan blew it all up, and he is even bragging that he can make the weight and beat Haney in round 2.

I guess Ryan don't want this fight to happen, if he is really that serious he should check and watch his weight from time to time to make the fight happen.

[robelneo]

I didn’t watch the weigh in but Devin Haney tweeted that Ryan Garcia didn’t make weight… I guess he missed it by 3 pounds! That’s insane. Ryan hasn’t taken anything about this fight from the beginning. Now it looks like it might not even happen. Bummer. I needed Ryan to lose as the last leg in a long parlay…

It's still going to happen the fight and Ryan now owes Haney money for the bet of not making the weigh, now the icing on the cake of this Ryan Garcia show is him getting knocked out by Haney.

Ryan missed another opportunity to win a title, he missed it against Tank, not he is going to miss it again and it seems Ryan because of his antic may never win a World Title

According to longtime boxing reporter Dan Rafael, the two sides did reach a financial agreement to move ahead with the fight. A Golden Boy spokesperson said that the two reached an agreement and that Garcia would honor the handshake deal made at the press conference.

Ryan Garcia misses weight ahead of fight with Devin Haney, ineligible to win WBC junior welterweight title

[btc_angela]

I didn’t watch the weigh in but Devin Haney tweeted that Ryan Garcia didn’t make weight… I guess he missed it by 3 pounds! That’s insane. Ryan hasn’t taken anything about this fight from the beginning. Now it looks like it might not even happen. Bummer. I needed Ryan to lose as the last leg in a long parlay…

They are still negotiating to make the fight happen and it seems he is not eligible to fight for the title since he and Haney had a bet of $500k per pound Ryan is going to lose $1.5 million if I'm not mistaken.
We are all surprised by this development, after all the talks and all the dramas Ryan blew it all up, and he is even bragging that he can make the weight and beat Haney in round 2.

I guess Ryan don't want this fight to happen, if he is really that serious he should check and watch his weight from time to time to make the fight happen.

And it still going to happen though, Ryan will have to pay $1.5 million as he missed the weight. True though, it looks like Haney knows that Ryan is not going to make the weight and that's what he said during the press conference.

So let's see tomorrow, there will be no belts on the line as far as the latest news goes, but this is like the first time that Ryan didn't make the weight in his pro career? In the Tank Davis fight a couple of fights ago, he did make the contractual weight and rehydration clause. But in this fight, it's totally different.

[Jating]

I didn’t watch the weigh in but Devin Haney tweeted that Ryan Garcia didn’t make weight… I guess he missed it by 3 pounds! That’s insane. Ryan hasn’t taken anything about this fight from the beginning. Now it looks like it might not even happen. Bummer. I needed Ryan to lose as the last leg in a long parlay…

It's still going to happen the fight and Ryan now owes Haney money for the bet of not making the weigh, now the icing on the cake of this Ryan Garcia show is him getting knocked out by Haney.

Ryan missed another opportunity to win a title, he missed it against Tank, not he is going to miss it again and it seems Ryan because of his antic may never win a World Title

According to longtime boxing reporter Dan Rafael, the two sides did reach a financial agreement to move ahead with the fight. A Golden Boy spokesperson said that the two reached an agreement and that Garcia would honor the handshake deal made at the press conference.

Ryan Garcia misses weight ahead of fight with Devin Haney, ineligible to win WBC junior welterweight title

Crazy turn of events, do the camp of Ryan knows before hand that he will be over the allowed weight in this fight? We would understand if it's only like 1 pound, but it's huge 3 pound is big and with this kind of huge fight, fighters should be really looking at their weight, or at least their trainer is on top of it. Part of the blame should be in the shoulders of Derrick James too, in my opinion.

So if Ryan losses, will be used that he was overweight in this fight as one reasons why he was knockout? Lol.

Or he did this intentionally so he will be the bigger guy come fight night and have the advantage?

In any case, fight is still on. I have this fight under 10.5.

[Baofeng]

Oh well, at least they will allow this fight to still push through even though Ryan Garcia has missed weight. And Bill Haney as I have read in several tweets, say that there is a stipulation that Ryan Garcia "wanting to embrace different movements.” Not sure what Bill means by that.

And it was also said that Ryan has paid the $1.5 as agreed upon and Ryan said that he will get back that money and Haney should also promise that he will fight in the middle of the year as he said in the press conference.

[Kemarit]

Oh well, at least they will allow this fight to still push through even though Ryan Garcia has missed weight. And Bill Haney as I have read in several tweets, say that there is a stipulation that Ryan Garcia "wanting to embrace different movements.” Not sure what Bill means by that.

And it was also said that Ryan has paid the $1.5 as agreed upon and Ryan said that he will get back that money and Haney should also promise that he will fight in the middle of the year as he said in the press conference.

Bill Haney and Bernard Hopkins is also getting into the mix in the weigh-in, LOL.

Not sure what Hopkins said, because prior to that, Oscar and Bill is cool although you can see the Bill is saying something and perhaps Bernard hear it and just reacted to it. But everything has been set, they have promoted  the fight specially Ryan with his antics in public and his public tweets.

Now, they will go out in less than 24 hours, and as Ryan said, hope that the fight is going to happen in the middle and Haney will engage.

And speaking of Bernard, he is not done yet, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PX3J7dGC49w

[AmoreJaz]

Crazy turn of events, do the camp of Ryan knows before hand that he will be over the allowed weight in this fight? We would understand if it's only like 1 pound, but it's huge 3 pound is big and with this kind of huge fight, fighters should be really looking at their weight, or at least their trainer is on top of it. Part of the blame should be in the shoulders of Derrick James too, in my opinion.

So if Ryan losses, will be used that he was overweight in this fight as one reasons why he was knockout? Lol.

Or he did this intentionally so he will be the bigger guy come fight night and have the advantage?

In any case, fight is still on. I have this fight under 10.5.

If Garcia's camp is really prepared for this fight, they should have not overlooked Ryan's weight. They perfectly know there's a weigh in before the fight, so why not do what they can to comply with the weight requirements? They may really have something in mind, a good reason to say, if they will lose that Ryan is overweight and other alibis.

This being overweight in this division cost him $1.5M, so why did Ryan's camp failed to observe the weight requirements? He has a lot of people surrounding him, and yet, a simple weight measurements has been missed. I don't think they have sincere plan for this fight though. Just my opinion.

[FinneysTrueVision]

After complaining that the rehydration clause in the Tank Davis fight was unfair, Ryan is the one now looking to gain an advantage by coming in overweight. He probably realizes that he is badly outmatched and is hoping this will give him some kind of edge over Haney.

People have been saying that Garcia's erratic behavior is just an act, but we must remember that he already took a long break from boxing because of mental health problems. Just because he seemed fine the past few years doesn’t mean he had overcome those problems.

[bbc.reporter]

I didn’t watch the weigh in but Devin Haney tweeted that Ryan Garcia didn’t make weight… I guess he missed it by 3 pounds! That’s insane. Ryan hasn’t taken anything about this fight from the beginning. Now it looks like it might not even happen. Bummer. I needed Ryan to lose as the last leg in a long parlay…

Ryan Garcia will lose because missing weight implies that he did not train very seriously. This might also be the fault of his trainer Derrick James. I speculate that after Errol Spence left him, Derrick James might be looking for a quick profit similar to an altcoin pump and dump hehehehhe. I predict Ryan Garcia and Derrick James to separate after Ryan's knockout loss tomorrow.

[coin-investor]

After complaining that the rehydration clause in the Tank Davis fight was unfair, Ryan is the one now looking to gain an advantage by coming in overweight. He probably realizes that he is badly outmatched and is hoping this will give him some kind of edge over Haney.

People have been saying that Garcia's erratic behavior is just an act, but we must remember that he already took a long break from boxing because of mental health problems. Just because he seemed fine the past few years doesn’t mean he had overcome those problems.

He looks totally messed up rather than just acting I just cannot understand why a guy who utters dirty words from his mouth is the same guy who praises Jesus afterward, Derrick is having a hard time guiding Ryan Garcia, even his father and his promoters, he is totally out of control.

I wonder what his mental health is after Haney beats him, Ryan Garcia is one guy who cannot handle fame there's too much social media in him that he cannot handle, there will be a lot of analysis after this fight and it will be more on Ryan Garcia's mental states and attitude.

The future looks bleak for Ryan if he loses this match and even if he wins he needs to reinvent himself and learn how to be sober, this is the first I saw a guy drinking beer on his weigh-in, a totally wrecked guy.

[btc_angela]

After complaining that the rehydration clause in the Tank Davis fight was unfair, Ryan is the one now looking to gain an advantage by coming in overweight. He probably realizes that he is badly outmatched and is hoping this will give him some kind of edge over Haney.

People have been saying that Garcia's erratic behavior is just an act, but we must remember that he already took a long break from boxing because of mental health problems. Just because he seemed fine the past few years doesn’t mean he had overcome those problems.

He looks totally messed up rather than just acting I just cannot understand why a guy who utters dirty words from his mouth is the same guy who praises Jesus afterward, Derrick is having a hard time guiding Ryan Garcia, even his father and his promoters, he is totally out of control.

I wonder what his mental health is after Haney beats him, Ryan Garcia is one guy who cannot handle fame there's too much social media in him that he cannot handle, there will be a lot of analysis after this fight and it will be more on Ryan Garcia's mental states and attitude.

The future looks bleak for Ryan if he loses this match and even if he wins he needs to reinvent himself and learn how to be sober, this is the first I saw a guy drinking beer on his weigh-in, a totally wrecked guy.

He even had a beer during the weigh-in? Not be the first time that we have seen something out of the ordinary, but that was really off the chart for Ryan. And I do agree, he knows that he will come over the weight limit and is willing to play that huge amount of compensation to Devin Haney.

But the boxing community is still divided, I hear Roy Jones interview saying that Ryan is fully aware of what is he is doing, but he did it to sell the fights. I was one on of those who belief that even if Ryan losses this one, he can still go back and sell fights. But not this kind of promotion though, and then they have to question is mental health again and again to the point that maybe Ryan is really faking it when he announce before that he has issues.

[Japinat]

After complaining that the rehydration clause in the Tank Davis fight was unfair, Ryan is the one now looking to gain an advantage by coming in overweight. He probably realizes that he is badly outmatched and is hoping this will give him some kind of edge over Haney.

People have been saying that Garcia's erratic behavior is just an act, but we must remember that he already took a long break from boxing because of mental health problems. Just because he seemed fine the past few years doesn’t mean he had overcome those problems.

He looks totally messed up rather than just acting I just cannot understand why a guy who utters dirty words from his mouth is the same guy who praises Jesus afterward, Derrick is having a hard time guiding Ryan Garcia, even his father and his promoters, he is totally out of control.

I wonder what his mental health is after Haney beats him, Ryan Garcia is one guy who cannot handle fame there's too much social media in him that he cannot handle, there will be a lot of analysis after this fight and it will be more on Ryan Garcia's mental states and attitude.

The future looks bleak for Ryan if he loses this match and even if he wins he needs to reinvent himself and learn how to be sober, this is the first I saw a guy drinking beer on his weigh-in, a totally wrecked guy.

He even had a beer during the weigh-in? Not be the first time that we have seen something out of the ordinary, but that was really off the chart for Ryan. And I do agree, he knows that he will come over the weight limit and is willing to play that huge amount of compensation to Devin Haney.

But the boxing community is still divided, I hear Roy Jones interview saying that Ryan is fully aware of what is he is doing, but he did it to sell the fights. I was one on of those who belief that even if Ryan losses this one, he can still go back and sell fights. But not this kind of promotion though, and then they have to question is mental health again and again to the point that maybe Ryan is really faking it when he announce before that he has issues.

Definitely true, he know what's it at stake in this fight so he is not gonna do things that he can't control. I'm pretty sure what we saw during the weigh in was all drama, it was reported earlier that this fight is not selling tickets as expected, so that was their last shot to market the fight and they want people to talk about it, and just like what they wanted to happen, here we are talking about what happened.

Anyway, the long wait is over, the fight will be tomorrow, so guys if you haven't place your bet yet, you should now.

[Viscore]

Anyway, the long wait is over, the fight will be tomorrow, so guys if you haven't place your bet yet, you should now.

One last look on the betting odds before the big fight tomorrow.

Haney 1.13 vs R. Garcia 7.20.
https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/47663499-Haney-Devin-vs-Garcia-Ryan

Great opportunity for bettors of Ryan Garcia, that x7.20 odds is definitely very attractive.
Haney hasn't loss a fight and his wins are so impressive, now we have Ryan on his way who talks a lot on social media just to get attention, if we think he can give Haney some real problem here, i think this 7.20 should be a lock.

[Coin_trader]

Anyway, the long wait is over, the fight will be tomorrow, so guys if you haven't place your bet yet, you should now.

One last look on the betting odds before the big fight tomorrow.

Haney 1.13 vs R. Garcia 7.20.
https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/47663499-Haney-Devin-vs-Garcia-Ryan

Great opportunity for bettors of Ryan Garcia, that x7.20 odds is definitely very attractive.
Haney hasn't loss a fight and his wins are so impressive, now we have Ryan on his way who talks a lot on social media just to get attention, if we think he can give Haney some real problem here, i think this 7.20 should be a lock.

I feel that it will the same result when Ryan Garcia beaten by Tank badly. Ryan is a hood boxer but he is always no match to boxers that can absorb his punch since he is just relying on his punch speed while it's power is not that destructive.

I think the odds result is due their previous matches and the outcomes since Haney recent matches is all ended on a convincing way plus he is really capable to beat this struggling Ryan Garcia.

For me, winner will be Haney on less than 5 rounds. That 7.2 odds only show how one sided this match will gonna be.

[robelneo]

Canceled my task for this fight I'm more interested to see if this is Ryan's act or if he is breaking down because of the pressure, yeah I know that Ryan is a huge underdog here but he makes it appear because of the interviews, and actions that he has a huge surprise to show to everyone.

After this fight whoever wins the match deserves a good analysis of what went right and what went wrong for both fighters.

Analysis and indications show that Haney is likely to win a fight but since there's no rehydration clause like on Garcia's first loss, we will see Ryan at his best, he may pull a huge upset and he will have that last laugh.
This fight will be a road for each other's path to greatness

[coin-investor]

Ryan Garcia arrived at the fight venue wearing a blue t-shirt with the word RIP Devin Haney 1999 - 2024 on his back, Ryan hated Devin Haney to put something like this as if he can kill Haney in the ring, Haney has become his passion leading to the fight.

His corner should be the one to worry about because from the look of it Haney is dead serious about putting Ryan out of boxing for good.

https://twitter.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1781843832847651057

[bbc.reporter]

Canceled my task for this fight I'm more interested to see if this is Ryan's act or if he is breaking down because of the pressure, yeah I know that Ryan is a huge underdog here but he makes it appear because of the interviews, and actions that he has a huge surprise to show to everyone.

After this fight whoever wins the match deserves a good analysis of what went right and what went wrong for both fighters.

Analysis and indications show that Haney is likely to win a fight but since there's no rehydration clause like on Garcia's first loss, we will see Ryan at his best, he may pull a huge upset and he will have that last laugh.
This fight will be a road for each other's path to greatness

It appears that it might only be Ryan's crazy act hehehe. King Ry has knocked down Devin Haney 2 times on round 7 already! I am certainly quite shocked! If Ryan Garcia did not punch Haney on the break, the referee might not have given time for Devin Haney to make a recovery.

Another knockdown again for Ryan Garcia! This is round 10! I reckon if Ryan loses this, we will still win. The loser here is Devin Haney because this fight is opening questions on his capability. Tank Davis or Shakur Stevenson might be calling their managers heehehehee

[coin-investor]

Ryan just shocked the world and he proved everyone wrong everyone thinks that Ryan's only chance to win is via Knockout but he knocked down Haney 3 times in the fight to win via majority decision

I just can't believe that it ended by a majority when it should have overwhelmingly unanimous decision

here are final scores, the judge who scored 112 - 112 may have been watching a different game
SCORES: 112-112, 114-110, 115-109, majority decision for Ryan Garcia

Unfortunately, Ryan is not eligible to win the title the title is now vacant, and Ryan could win the title he is the strongest in this division the way he dispose Haney.

[bisdak40]

Another knockdown again for Ryan Garcia! This is round 10! I reckon if Ryan loses this, we will still win. The loser here is Devin Haney because this fight is opening questions on his capability. Tank Davis or Shakur Stevenson might be calling their managers heehehehee

Ryan Garcia can't be denied this time around. What an upset mate. Majority decision for Ryan Garcia.

Though no belt, i think Garcia should get the respect of the boxing community as he beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. hehe.

IMO, Haney should get the rematch and this time if either fighter can't make the scale, the fight should be canceled.

[Kemarit]

Another knockdown again for Ryan Garcia! This is round 10! I reckon if Ryan loses this, we will still win. The loser here is Devin Haney because this fight is opening questions on his capability. Tank Davis or Shakur Stevenson might be calling their managers heehehehee

Ryan Garcia can't be denied this time around. What an upset mate. Majority decision for Ryan Garcia.

Though no belt, i think Garcia should get the respect of the boxing community as he beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. hehe.

IMO, Haney should get the rematch and this time if either fighter can't make the scale, the fight should be canceled.

But then again, he was over the weight limit and 3 lbs is huge.

Anyhow, we will see, I cant' remember if there is a rematch clause, but they should fight at 140 lbs, simply as that. And I think Derick James needed this win as well and for Golden Boy, 1-0 now. Let's see if Oscar can make it 2-0 with another huge upset win with Jaime Mungia.

Props to Ryan Garcia, dude has power, knows how to sell the fight, it's just that he didn't make the weight, he could be the belt holder now.

[bbc.reporter]

Another knockdown again for Ryan Garcia! This is round 10! I reckon if Ryan loses this, we will still win. The loser here is Devin Haney because this fight is opening questions on his capability. Tank Davis or Shakur Stevenson might be calling their managers heehehehee

Ryan Garcia can't be denied this time around. What an upset mate. Majority decision for Ryan Garcia.

Though no belt, i think Garcia should get the respect of the boxing community as he beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. hehe.

IMO, Haney should get the rematch and this time if either fighter can't make the scale, the fight should be canceled.

We can be quite certain that Devin Haney has no choice for his next fight but fight Ryan because we can also be quite certain that not much fans will buy tickets and payperviews on a main event with Haney. However, King Ry's next payperview will be very high heheheh.

This is Devin Haney wishing presently he is Ryan Garcia.

[Viscore]

Props to Ryan Garcia, dude has power, knows how to sell the fight, it's just that he didn't make the weight, he could be the belt holder now.

The big difference was the power and Ryan is tall as well, Haney can't dominate him that's why it turns out to be a huge upset. I wished there was a poll on this thread to see what's everyone has voted, for sure majority would vote for Haney judging by the comments in this thread.

I was wondering, if you guys still remember, what was the odds back then for Ryan to win via decision?

Anyway, i think Haney deserved a rematch, he should be given another chance.

[FinneysTrueVision]

But then again, he was over the weight limit and 3 lbs is huge.

Anyhow, we will see, I cant' remember if there is a rematch clause, but they should fight at 140 lbs, simply as that. And I think Derick James needed this win as well and for Golden Boy, 1-0 now. Let's see if Oscar can make it 2-0 with another huge upset win with Jaime Mungia.

Props to Ryan Garcia, dude has power, knows how to sell the fight, it's just that he didn't make the weight, he could be the belt holder now.

Ryan won the fight convincingly and destroyed the glass-chinned Haney. He is the clear A-side, if he feels stronger a few pounds higher then he should force Haney to fight him at a catchweight. The belts are irrelevant because the sanctioning organizations have lost any credibility by allowing themselves to be bought off by corrupt promoters.

After this humiliating defeat I don’t know how Haney will recover. The referee and one of the judges clearly wanted to see him win, but when you are not able to take a punch there isn’t a level of corruption that is enough to save you. If Ryan Garcia, with all his limitations, is able to do this to him, then he would really struggle against aggressive fighters like Pitbull Cruz and Tank who are more skilled and more disciplined than Ryan.

[Russlenat]

But then again, he was over the weight limit and 3 lbs is huge.

Anyhow, we will see, I cant' remember if there is a rematch clause, but they should fight at 140 lbs, simply as that. And I think Derick James needed this win as well and for Golden Boy, 1-0 now. Let's see if Oscar can make it 2-0 with another huge upset win with Jaime Mungia.

Props to Ryan Garcia, dude has power, knows how to sell the fight, it's just that he didn't make the weight, he could be the belt holder now.

Ryan won the fight convincingly and destroyed the glass-chinned Haney. He is the clear A-side, if he feels stronger a few pounds higher then he should force Haney to fight him at a catchweight. The belts are irrelevant because the sanctioning organizations have lost any credibility by allowing themselves to be bought off by corrupt promoters.

After this humiliating defeat I don’t know how Haney will recover. The referee and one of the judges clearly wanted to see him win, but when you are not able to take a punch there isn’t a level of corruption that is enough to save you. If Ryan Garcia, with all his limitations, is able to do this to him, then he would really struggle against aggressive fighters like Pitbull Cruz and Tank who are more skilled and more disciplined than Ryan.

Ryan Garcia now has all the right to boost and talk whatever he wants. he just beat a fighter most of us thought it's impossible for him to handle, but he has power in this weight and I think he could dominate again. Haney might ask for a rematch, it's up to him but I'm sure he would not be able to handle the power of Ryan, just like Kambosos unable to handle the speed of Haney during their rematch.

Now, Ryan can celebrate all he wants as once again he prove to himself and to the world that he is called King Ry for a reason.

So what's next for him?

[yazher]

Ryan Garcia now has all the right to boost and talk whatever he wants. he just beat a fighter most of us thought it's impossible for him to handle, but he has power in this weight and I think he could dominate again. Haney might ask for a rematch, it's up to him but I'm sure he would not be able to handle the power of Ryan, just like Kambosos unable to handle the speed of Haney during their rematch.

He just defeated an undefeated boxing superstar Devin Haney and that is a major comeback for him now that he really can defeat such high caliber fighter, his next fight will even be bigger than this one and I hope he won't gonna overdue his celebrations where he gonna forgot to train harder for the next one because that's how the champions should be, remain focus not only in the time distraction but in the time of prosperity. overall, congratulations to him on winning this fight, such is the fight we really want to see from him.

[TopTort777]

Rigged fight Why this is a majority decision, if there were three knockdowns ? How can Garcia missed weight? Played his PlayStation to much and had not time to cut? When will people stop promoting that young guy who is famous mostly for his speed punches? Give Ryan Loma and see if he is really that badass and a self crowned king.

[arwin100]

Rigged fight Why this is a majority decision, if there were three knockdowns ? How can Garcia missed weight? Played his PlayStation to much and had not time to cut? When will people stop promoting that young guy who is famous mostly for his speed punches? Give Ryan Loma and see if he is really that badass and a self crowned king.

Nope I think that's not the case and maybe nobody think about that. Maybe we can just say that Garcia is confident that he can defeat Haney on this fight knowing that a lot of noise has been created on this since many people think that Garcia is not serious on his upcoming fight due to his activities made that some fans don't like to see.

Garcia really beaten up Haney and many convince that this guy is talented and unpredictable since he score 3 knock down o this match that's why he get the win. Maybe that's interesting match if they meet Ryan Loma but its still up to their management to decide which fight they are picking. But for now this is impressive win for Garcia since he really out perform Haney and make it looks like an easy fight for him.

[Jating]

And I was wrong about this fight, I thought that Haney will dominate it and Garcia is not going to last that full 12 rounds and dictate the tempo. But it was the opposite, when Haney taste the power of Garcia, he was shook and he admit that he sleep on that Garcia left hook. So meaning that he was overconfident that he can take the power of Ryan. But King Ry is too big. He looks small, Oscar and Bernard for sure are very happy about the result and you can see Bernard giving Garcia word of wisdom and you can hear respect.

Yeah, that's why Ryan earns tonight, respect despite almost the majority thinks that he is going to lose this fight and even questioning if he can get back after another lost in his resume. But I would like to see a rematch though, game 8.

[robelneo]

Rigged fight Why this is a majority decision, if there were three knockdowns ? How can Garcia missed weight? Played his PlayStation to much and had not time to cut? When will people stop promoting that young guy who is famous mostly for his speed punches? Give Ryan Loma and see if he is really that badass and a self crowned king.

Those who hate Ryan had it a draw like Hearns of DAZN which is why Ryan's father is cursing him, Ryan proved to be the greatest troll he created a disruption and did not follow everyone's script of him losing the match to a fighter that people consider the pound for pound champion in this generation.

Ryan proved everyone wrong including me and the majority of boxing experts, he exposed Haney as someone who does not have a chin and had pillow punches, people have seen him pounding Ryan's side of the body but Ryan just shrugs it off.

With this win Ryan is on track to greatness I hope he will not take up the rehydration clause again so we can see him with this kind of performance.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Ryan just shocked the world and he proved everyone wrong everyone thinks that Ryan's only chance to win is via Knockout but he knocked down Haney 3 times in the fight to win via majority decision

I just can't believe that it ended by a majority when it should have overwhelmingly unanimous decision

here are final scores, the judge who scored 112 - 112 may have been watching a different game
SCORES: 112-112, 114-110, 115-109, majority decision for Ryan Garcia

Unfortunately, Ryan is not eligible to win the title the title is now vacant, and Ryan could win the title he is the strongest in this division the way he dispose Haney.

No cap, yes, Ryan should be winning by UD here, not sure why that one judge score it at even, the strength of 3 knockdowns, even if he was deducted a point, Ryan could still be winning at 113-111. But it's all done now, Ryan proved a point in this fight and humble the Haney's.

If only he could have made the weight, but it we don't know if the result will be the same. When I saw someone post it on Facebook that Garcia won, I thought it was just fake as it was reported that he knockdown Haney. So I have to look it up as I missed the fight. And sure enough despite what we thought that he had mental issues, he could have really focus on him and congrats to Derrick James as well for executing a perfect game plan.

I don't think it's rigged at all, you can see the body signal of Haney and his dad that they've lost already even before the score was announced. And not like in the Loma fight wherein we think it was really close and Haney could have lost, but here Ryan bring all the heat to to Devin and he didn't response.

[aioc]

He humiliated Haney, who was considered to be the pound-for-pound champion, everyone was taken for a ride, and Haney kept saying that he shut down Garcia and retired him, but it ended Haney is the one that got shut down.
The score 112 - 112 is not right, it's good that the other two judges made the right decision because everyone who watched the fight knew that Garcia beat Haney, not only beat him but mauled him and humiliated him.

[Eternad]

Biggest upset of all time. No one will ever think that a boxer that came back from hiatus due to mental problem issue can dominate and give a humiliation to an active top boxer on his division.

I have the guts to bet for Garcia but it’s very hard to YOLO bet when Garcia show a sign of mental instability during the weigh in and pre match. I believe there’s a juicy odds on this match for Garcia since I saw the odds ranging from 6.0 to 7.0 the last time I check their match on sportsbook. Congratulations to those who believe that Garcia can come back strong.

[avp2306]

Biggest upset of all time. No one will ever think that a boxer that came back from hiatus due to mental problem issue can dominate and give a humiliation to an active top boxer on his division.

I have the guts to bet for Garcia but it’s very hard to YOLO bet when Garcia show a sign of mental instability during the weigh in and pre match. I believe there’s a juicy odds on this match for Garcia since I saw the odds ranging from 6.0 to 7.0 the last time I check their match on sportsbook. Congratulations to those who believe that Garcia can come back strong.

Some people say its a strategy of Garcia to annoy Haney and we can say that its effective since he pulled up a big upset on boxing history and defeat  the undefeated champ. Although its sad that he didn't get the title due to his weight but still what's important there is he win.

Its funny to see on some interview while haney is talking Garcia play a cocomelon video and higher up the volume so everyone could hear what he's listening and we can see on the face of Haney that he's pissed off due to what Garcia did. So congrats for all people betting on Garcia since you guys earn huge profit on this fight.

[cabron]

Biggest upset of all time. No one will ever think that a boxer that came back from hiatus due to mental problem issue can dominate and give a humiliation to an active top boxer on his division.

I have the guts to bet for Garcia but it’s very hard to YOLO bet when Garcia show a sign of mental instability during the weigh in and pre match. I believe there’s a juicy odds on this match for Garcia since I saw the odds ranging from 6.0 to 7.0 the last time I check their match on sportsbook. Congratulations to those who believe that Garcia can come back strong.

Some people say its a strategy of Garcia to annoy Haney and we can say that its effective since he pulled up a big upset on boxing history and defeat  the undefeated champ. Although its sad that he didn't get the title due to his weight but still what's important there is he win.

Its funny to see on some interview while haney is talking Garcia play a cocomelon video and higher up the volume so everyone could hear what he's listening and we can see on the face of Haney that he's pissed off due to what Garcia did. So congrats for all people betting on Garcia since you guys earn huge profit on this fight.

Garcia won strategically actually especially using his should and turn back to negate Haney in throwing combo. So he proves to be not just a one-trick phony after all with that kind of strategy.

It feels good to see Ryan saved boxing though despite all the hindrances against him, the referee clearly is not on Ryan's side, and the judges the commentators, and even the camera men  is not on his side but he made it. Its Ryan against the world and made it!

[Alphakilo]

Ryan Garcia now has all the right to boost and talk whatever he wants. he just beat a fighter most of us thought it's impossible for him to handle, but he has power in this weight and I think he could dominate again. Haney might ask for a rematch, it's up to him but I'm sure he would not be able to handle the power of Ryan, just like Kambosos unable to handle the speed of Haney during their rematch.

Now, Ryan can celebrate all he wants as once again he prove to himself and to the world that he is called King Ry for a reason.

So what's next for him?

That Haney talked a lot of nonsense, and so did Garcia, but what you say you must back up in the ring, and there Garcia gave Haney a beating. That judge who saw the fight as a draw needs to be fired. Garcia's punches pack a punch, and I think he should move up a weight class because he can't make weight.

Maybe he's an undisciplined boxer, but that doesn't take away from his quality, and Haney got a reality check that he's just average. Ryan García has regained our credibility. But he must drop three pounds and correct many flaws in his attacks and defense so that he can fight for a belt in that weight class.

[cabron]

Ryan Garcia now has all the right to boost and talk whatever he wants. he just beat a fighter most of us thought it's impossible for him to handle, but he has power in this weight and I think he could dominate again. Haney might ask for a rematch, it's up to him but I'm sure he would not be able to handle the power of Ryan, just like Kambosos unable to handle the speed of Haney during their rematch.

Now, Ryan can celebrate all he wants as once again he prove to himself and to the world that he is called King Ry for a reason.

So what's next for him?

That Haney talked a lot of nonsense, and so did Garcia, but what you say you must back up in the ring, and there Garcia gave Haney a beating. That judge who saw the fight as a draw needs to be fired. Garcia's punches pack a punch, and I think he should move up a weight class because he can't make weight.

Maybe he's an undisciplined boxer, but that doesn't take away from his quality, and Haney got a reality check that he's just average. Ryan García has regained our credibility. But he must drop three pounds and correct many flaws in his attacks and defense so that he can fight for a belt in that weight class.

That judge also is something. No one in their right mind, even a grader with limited knowledge wouldn't score a draw for this fight.

One can say Ryan learned some tricks after losing against Tank. It's a bit dirty but still the rules of boxing are not so perfect after all. Floyd is using the same technique though. The kid is just 25 and a millionaire, he surely can find someone who can open his eyes to see the industry where he belongs isn't friendly when he loses a fight.

[coin-investor]

That judge also is something. No one in their right mind, even a grader with limited knowledge wouldn't score a draw for this fight.

The  name of the judge is De Luka he is a veteran judge but on this one, he made a miscalculation, I hope in the future there will be a mandatory explanation of judges who made questionable decision

One can say Ryan learned some tricks after losing against Tank. It's a bit dirty but still the rules of boxing are not so perfect after all. Floyd is using the same technique though. The kid is just 25 and a millionaire, he surely can find someone who can open his eyes to see the industry where he belongs isn't friendly when he loses a fight.

Haney wants to be better than Mayweather but this beatdown it casts doubt on his future as the best fighter, in this generation now Tank, Shakur can laugh because they saw a big hole in his capability as a boxer from hereon he will be known as a guy with a weak chin and a weak punches.

[inthelongrun]

It's hard for Haney to become better than Mayweather because he lacks the power. Mayweather was a knockout artist during his younger years as a champion. Haney has zero knockouts and stoppages when he became a world champion. It's just difficult for light punchers to keep climbing weights because opponents are getting bigger and they can risk of getting hit just to land their own power shots.

Ryan while being over 3 pounds overweight was battling not just Haney but also the referee, the judge and there's also corrupt WBC not following the tradition of vacating the belt.

[Yogee]

Congratulations to those who made bank in this fight. Those who bet on Garcia by KO or TKO should have more if not for the third man in the ring hehe.

Ryan while being over 3 pounds overweight was battling not just Haney but also the referee, the judge and there's also corrupt WBC not following the tradition of vacating the belt.

I usually give them the benefit of the doubt since their job is not that easy but this one seems obvious. The first knockdown should have ended the fight but the ref has other plans.
I thought the agreement after the missed weight cut was the title to be vacated if Haney lost?

[Casdinyard]

It's hard for Haney to become better than Mayweather because he lacks the power. Mayweather was a knockout artist during his younger years as a champion. Haney has zero knockouts and stoppages when he became a world champion. It's just difficult for light punchers to keep climbing weights because opponents are getting bigger and they can risk of getting hit just to land their own power shots.

Ryan while being over 3 pounds overweight was battling not just Haney but also the referee, the judge and there's also corrupt WBC not following the tradition of vacating the belt.

I would agree, most world champions stick to knocking people out in their younger and more amateur years, Pacquiao being one of the few notable ones that really kept the knockout boxing style type even when they've grown to become a veteran boxing champion, but I digress, unless Haney does something to change his boxing style to be more of a powerful type, one that's based in strength and speed and not putting out the most points in matches like a fucking wuss, cause fighters and the boxing screen meta's becoming a little more crass and more unforgiving to these types of boxers nowadays. Which is also why Floyd wouldn't get back to fighting officially anymore, he knows that the game has changed and if he goes back doing the same sticky punches gameplan he's had since forever, he's going to lose.

Ryan really proved himself in the bout too, a lot of people hating on him due to his issues that surfaced to social media and he still put up a great fight that we could remember for the years to come? That's only something Ryan would do. I know he's got something going for himself back then, and he's slowly proving himself and is establishing a legacy.

[Scripture]

Congratulations to those who made bank in this fight. Those who bet on Garcia by KO or TKO should have more if not for the third man in the ring hehe.

Ryan while being over 3 pounds overweight was battling not just Haney but also the referee, the judge and there's also corrupt WBC not following the tradition of vacating the belt.

I usually give them the benefit of the doubt since their job is not that easy but this one seems obvious. The first knockdown should have ended the fight but the ref has other plans.
I thought the agreement after the missed weight cut was the title to be vacated if Haney lost?

That's too obvious and the world knows it, and if Garcia lose via decision I'm sure it will be their biggest mistake to decide.
Garcia obviously won every round and yes, that first knocked out should be the last for the match, well It's Garcia versus the whole team.

I was able to place a small bet and won some, it was an easy decision for me because I know Haney can't match the power of Garcia, looking forward for the next fight or even a rematch.

[serjent05]

That judge also is something. No one in their right mind, even a grader with limited knowledge wouldn't score a draw for this fight.

It is possible with a score card like this



and have Devin won the last round but I think this score card is biased... the other two judges score cards prove that the one giving a draw is really favoring Haney.

One can say Ryan learned some tricks after losing against Tank. It's a bit dirty but still the rules of boxing are not so perfect after all. Floyd is using the same technique though. The kid is just 25 and a millionaire, he surely can find someone who can open his eyes to see the industry where he belongs isn't friendly when he loses a fight.

I agree, Ryan had learned a lot from his encounter with Tank Davis.  Ryan Garcia's performance surprised me and I really can't believe that he is able to penetrate the defense of Haney.  After this fight, I believe Ryan Garcia gained much respect from the viewers.

[Oasisman]

That judge also is something. No one in their right mind, even a grader with limited knowledge wouldn't score a draw for this fight.

The  name of the judge is De Luka he is a veteran judge but on this one, he made a miscalculation, I hope in the future there will be a mandatory explanation of judges who made questionable decision

Well, what everybody hopes is that he'll never get to judge another fight. He is a veteran just like what you said, that was not a miscalculations, that was done on purpose, he is bought or a puppet of someone, he stand his ground on what his master told him to do so. You can't miscalculate a one sided fight with 3 times knock down against an opponent. He's actually one of the reason why the boxing industry is becoming more and more of a business than an actual sport. Sports fan in general hates things like these.
Also the ref who tried to save Haney to help him recover after those knock downs.

[bbc.reporter]

He humiliated Haney, who was considered to be the pound-for-pound champion, everyone was taken for a ride, and Haney kept saying that he shut down Garcia and retired him, but it ended Haney is the one that got shut down.
The score 112 - 112 is not right, it's good that the other two judges made the right decision because everyone who watched the fight knew that Garcia beat Haney, not only beat him but mauled him and humiliated him.

Devin Haney has woken up from a good rest and he is still a champion. However, he will look on the mirror and this will be his face.

[Viscore]

He humiliated Haney, who was considered to be the pound-for-pound champion, everyone was taken for a ride, and Haney kept saying that he shut down Garcia and retired him, but it ended Haney is the one that got shut down.
The score 112 - 112 is not right, it's good that the other two judges made the right decision because everyone who watched the fight knew that Garcia beat Haney, not only beat him but mauled him and humiliated him.

Devin Haney has woken up from a good rest and he is still a champion. However, he will look on the mirror and this will be his face.

Nah he's fine man. haha...Give him a chance, he was smart to still have this belt because that wasn't a championship fight, but his undefeated record is one. I think Ryan should talk trash on him again so he can get a rematch and will have an easy win. Also, I'm wondering if how aggressive the champions now for trying to lure Haney to a fight in a unification fight. That was a big loss by Haney, for sure his confidence was shaken big time and his possible opponets might have boosted their confident seeing the result.

[Questat]

That judge also is something. No one in their right mind, even a grader with limited knowledge wouldn't score a draw for this fight.

The  name of the judge is De Luka he is a veteran judge but on this one, he made a miscalculation, I hope in the future there will be a mandatory explanation of judges who made questionable decision

Well, what everybody hopes is that he'll never get to judge another fight. He is a veteran just like what you said, that was not a miscalculations, that was done on purpose, he is bought or a puppet of someone, he stand his ground on what his master told him to do so. You can't miscalculate a one sided fight with 3 times knock down against an opponent. He's actually one of the reason why the boxing industry is becoming more and more of a business than an actual sport. Sports fan in general hates things like these.
Also the ref who tried to save Haney to help him recover after those knock downs.

Looks like Haney forget to paid all the judges, he might have underestimated Ryan so much thinking he can win by just scoring, but turns out, it was the other way around as Ryan was quicker in that fight and obviously has more popular in his punches. I like that Ryan after losing to Tank Davis are now more aggressive in talking big fights, I hope other champions will be able to follow him to give the boxing community a real entertainment.

So now, the superstar in boxing, or one of the superstars, his name is King Ry, more exciting fight ahead, he got our attention now.

[TravelMug]

He humiliated Haney, who was considered to be the pound-for-pound champion, everyone was taken for a ride, and Haney kept saying that he shut down Garcia and retired him, but it ended Haney is the one that got shut down.
The score 112 - 112 is not right, it's good that the other two judges made the right decision because everyone who watched the fight knew that Garcia beat Haney, not only beat him but mauled him and humiliated him.

Devin Haney has woken up from a good rest and he is still a champion. However, he will look on the mirror and this will be his face.

It's the humiliation that comes after, and we have been played by Ryan Garcia, uses his mental issues and whatever tweets and act he does in the public, come in over weight in the fight and then nobody give him a chance to win. But that left hook is very effective and the moment in land in the very 1st round, it's over. Well deserved win by Garcia and he is on the top of the world now. Oscar Dela Hoya was very happy and animated in the post fight interview, Haney though didn't show up and perhaps was really hurt. You can see his face after the face and he hadn't had the experience of going down 3x in a fight and even embracing Ryan for dear life. So let's see if Haney can recover from this devastating lost, he is still the champion. Ryan though he said that he dreams of fighting Sebastian Fundora, who recently beaten Tim Tszyu. So this is at 154 lbs obviously. Oscar though quick to say that Ryan now is a superstar and he is going to be the A-side in negotiations unlike in the Davis fight wherein he gave up a lot like the weight and rehydration clause.

[goaldigger]

Looks like Haney forget to paid all the judges, he might have underestimated Ryan so much thinking he can win by just scoring, but turns out, it was the other way around as Ryan was quicker in that fight and obviously has more popular in his punches. I like that Ryan after losing to Tank Davis are now more aggressive in talking big fights, I hope other champions will be able to follow him to give the boxing community a real entertainment.

So now, the superstar in boxing, or one of the superstars, his name is King Ry, more exciting fight ahead, he got our attention now.

He's already popular even before not until on his first loss against Davis, though on his current win for sure there will be hyped again.
Ryan did a great job despite of fighting not just with Haney but also with the officials, too bad for Haney for being too confident and forget how to improve his punching skills as he was going to fight a more aggressive boxer and more eager to win back. Well, money will always talk so for sure Haney is still a big winner here.

[stadus]

Looks like Haney forget to paid all the judges, he might have underestimated Ryan so much thinking he can win by just scoring, but turns out, it was the other way around as Ryan was quicker in that fight and obviously has more popular in his punches. I like that Ryan after losing to Tank Davis are now more aggressive in talking big fights, I hope other champions will be able to follow him to give the boxing community a real entertainment.

So now, the superstar in boxing, or one of the superstars, his name is King Ry, more exciting fight ahead, he got our attention now.

He's already popular even before not until on his first loss against Davis, though on his current win for sure there will be hyped again.
Ryan did a great job despite of fighting not just with Haney but also with the officials, too bad for Haney for being too confident and forget how to improve his punching skills as he was going to fight a more aggressive boxer and more eager to win back. Well, money will always talk so for sure Haney is still a big winner here.

Indeed, however that time after his loss to Tank people does not believe in him anymore that he can beat a champion. He just continue to be popular because he always wanted to gain some attention in his social media accounts, and now that he proved that he is a real deal, for sure he will get the respect from the boxers that would challenge him or he'll challenge in the future including Tank Davis if he'll decide to go down again.

This is a good year for him, first fight in 2024, I'm sure he can still at least make one fight this year.

Do you think who would that be?

[Yaunfitda]

It's hard for Haney to become better than Mayweather because he lacks the power. Mayweather was a knockout artist during his younger years as a champion. Haney has zero knockouts and stoppages when he became a world champion. It's just difficult for light punchers to keep climbing weights because opponents are getting bigger and they can risk of getting hit just to land their own power shots.

Ryan while being over 3 pounds overweight was battling not just Haney but also the referee, the judge and there's also corrupt WBC not following the tradition of vacating the belt.

I agree, Floyd at 135 lbs was very different, start of the prime years of Mayweather, who wouldn't forget how he destroys Chico Corrales (RIP). And at 140 lbs, Haney still has no chin and with the power Ryan had at this weight, Haney can't handle it. The style though of Haney might have been pattern after Floyd, but then again, Floyd is way ahead of his time. Oscar says in the post-fight that Garcia can fight at catch-weights, as it seems the question is about him and Tank for a rematch. Garcia is really intelligent if he targets Fundora because I think he is the "weakest" of the Super Welterweight champion. I disagree though of what Derrick James says on Haney, that he can't return because of how Garcia beat him. Haney have learn a lot of lessons here and for sure he can box again and before he forget there is no belt on the line as Ryan come in overweight.

[inthelongrun]

..
I thought the agreement after the missed weight cut was the title to be vacated if Haney lost?

There is no agreement needed because it should be automatically declared vacant as a general rule in boxing. Another disgraceful decision by the corrupt WBC. It is too unfair to the other fighters that worked hard to improve their ratings for a chance of getting a title fight. The WBC can just tell both Garcia and Haney to rematch for the vacant belt.

Although it seems like Ryan is not interested at 140 anymore. At the moment, it is Sandor Martin that is ranked 1st in the WBC ranking and he can fight Haney for the vacant belt if Ryan won't drop to 140.

[TopTort777]

Biggest upset of all time. No one will ever think that a boxer that came back from hiatus due to mental problem issue can dominate and give a humiliation to an active top boxer on his division.

Not the biggest upset, but a proof that a lot of things in boxing is rigged. Starting from that judge who gave draw in this fight, and ending with Haney vs Lomachenko fight for example. That fight can not  be UD, it was more close than Haney Garcia. What we have in the end, Instagram boy beat champion. lol What about "I will never lose to a white boy in my life" now ?



Justice has triumphed. I will celebrate that win together with Ryan.

[jossiel]

Not the biggest upset, but a proof that a lot of things in boxing is rigged. Starting from that judge who gave draw in this fight, and ending with Haney vs Lomachenko fight for example. That fight can not  be UD, it was more close than Haney Garcia. What we have in the end, Instagram boy beat champion. lol What about "I will never lose to a white boy in my life" now ?



Justice has triumphed. I will celebrate that win together with Ryan.

I saw that image and found it funny, I didn't even see some officials trying to stop him. But that adds flavor to the match so there will be hype and that has made their match make a noise globally.

Find some clips about when Haney was talking to the press during their press conference, on the other side of the mic. There goes Garcia playing some of our ole' favorite Coco Melon songs.

The world just saw what kind of a joke Haney is. We'll see some rematch. That's such a waste of time for Garcia, everyone will just move on but will remember this match forever.

[TopTort777]

I like how Devin and his father were talking all the time, that Ryan has got only left hook in his arsenal and that is it. 1 minute of round almost has ended, and Ryan shook Devin with that left hook That is just lol. If Devin knew about that one and only left hood, then why Ryan connected it so clearly Round 7 - same thing landed Devin ass on canvass.  Round 10, same left hook. Round 11 - again left.

The only one I feel sorry for was Bill Haney. Watching your kid losing, getting beating and you are not able to give him an advice that Devin waited so much every time when was in the corner is hard.

[FinneysTrueVision]

It is possible with a score card like this



and have Devin won the last round but I think this score card is biased... the other two judges score cards prove that the one giving a draw is really favoring Haney.

The DAZN broadcasters are terrible. They always act like cheerleaders for Matchroom fighters and also Canelo. Chris Mannix probably filled his scorecard before the fight even started. He needs Eddie Hearn to keep coming on his podcast, that’s why he always exaggerates how good AJ, Haney and Berlanga are.

[btc_angela]

I like how Devin and his father were talking all the time, that Ryan has got only left hook in his arsenal and that is it. 1 minute of round almost has ended, and Ryan shook Devin with that left hook That is just lol. If Devin knew about that one and only left hood, then why Ryan connected it so clearly Round 7 - same thing landed Devin ass on canvass.  Round 10, same left hook. Round 11 - again left.

The only one I feel sorry for was Bill Haney. Watching your kid losing, getting beating and you are not able to give him an advice that Devin waited so much every time when was in the corner is hard.

And on the other hand, entering round 12, you will hear Derrick James advising Ryan not to do anything stupid or something on that line because they know they have won the fight except for that one judges who ruin a UD for Ryan and instead score in a draw.

The execution of Ryan's left hook is very quick, hard to see and that's why Haney even though he is known to have a good defense, wasn't able to see the punch coming in and that's why 3 knockdown for Ryan easy and then the power behind it. Not be like Nonito or Roy Jones left hook, but it's crisp and hard to see.

[Jating]

..
I thought the agreement after the missed weight cut was the title to be vacated if Haney lost?

There is no agreement needed because it should be automatically declared vacant as a general rule in boxing. Another disgraceful decision by the corrupt WBC. It is too unfair to the other fighters that worked hard to improve their ratings for a chance of getting a title fight. The WBC can just tell both Garcia and Haney to rematch for the vacant belt.

Although it seems like Ryan is not interested at 140 anymore. At the moment, it is Sandor Martin that is ranked 1st in the WBC ranking and he can fight Haney for the vacant belt if Ryan won't drop to 140.

Probably it will be good for Haney will fight Sandor Martin, or at least if Martin is the mandatory, then I will say that it could be an easy fight for him. At least it's less risk and most likely a fight that he will get his confidence back after humbling lost he got from Ryan Garcia.

For Ryan he could go as high as 147 lbs if he can't make 140 lbs. And his height is about that weight class, at 5'9. But he mentioned Fundora at 154 lbs and maybe a catch weight as Oscar says. And it also ends the debate on us or someone comparing Floyd and Devin Haney.

[coin-investor]

There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

[mirakal]

There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

So he can say that publicly, like it's allowed in the boxing industry that a boxer will beat on himself to win? Because if that's in NBA, he would have been punished a lifetime ban, honestly, I'm curious because I don't know the rules, but isn't it ethical? Because someone could also bet agaisnt himself and cash huge money, I think it's easier than trying to win.

[coin-investor]

There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

So he can say that publicly, like it's allowed in the boxing industry that a boxer will beat on himself to win? Because if that's in NBA, he would have been punished a lifetime ban, honestly, I'm curious because I don't know the rules, but isn't it ethical? Because someone could also bet agaisnt himself and cash huge money, I think it's easier than trying to win.

Ryan is fully aware of this but since it's not in Nevada but in New York City, it remains to be seen if there are legal repercussions based on the article I provided so we will hear more of this in the coming months.

People are divided on this it is illegal and may lead to game-fixing going back to the fight many people are happy that Ryan wins the fight but some people hate for not following what the fight should be.

Jorge Masvidal calls him the greatest troll because he misled all of us, even Devin Haney's father believes that it was just all Ryan's act, maybe it has something to do with Ryan's ADHD as he claimed to have it.

[Distinctin]

There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

So he can say that publicly, like it's allowed in the boxing industry that a boxer will beat on himself to win? Because if that's in NBA, he would have been punished a lifetime ban, honestly, I'm curious because I don't know the rules, but isn't it ethical? Because someone could also bet agaisnt himself and cash huge money, I think it's easier than trying to win.

Ryan is fully aware of this but since it's not in Nevada but in New York City, it remains to be seen if there are legal repercussions based on the article I provided so we will hear more of this in the coming months.

People are divided on this it is illegal and may lead to game-fixing going back to the fight many people are happy that Ryan wins the fight but some people hate for not following what the fight should be.

Jorge Masvidal calls him the greatest troll because he misled all of us, even Devin Haney's father believes that it was just all Ryan's act, maybe it has something to do with Ryan's ADHD as he claimed to have it.

There was related topic on the question that we can find in this thread.

https://www.quora.com/Can-Mayweather-bet-on-himself-legally

The question was ;

Can Mayweather bet on himself legally?

Most of the answers are no, and I agree with it because it will be related to game fixing and we know that game fixing is betting on yourself and against yourself. Maybe a boxer can beat on themselves because they know their capability, but making it private may attract speculations and that will tarnish the reputation of boxing which hasn't been so good TBH.

[OgNasty]

If Ryan Garcia was putting on an act like he was losing his mind just to get the odds as long as possible so he could bet on himself and win a fortune then he really is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. Personally I think he just got lucky and probably had a decent advantage not having to cut all the way to make weight, but I’m happy for him.

[AmoreJaz]

There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

So he can say that publicly, like it's allowed in the boxing industry that a boxer will beat on himself to win? Because if that's in NBA, he would have been punished a lifetime ban, honestly, I'm curious because I don't know the rules, but isn't it ethical? Because someone could also bet agaisnt himself and cash huge money, I think it's easier than trying to win.

I thought this is not permitted even in boxing. I don't know if this is per jurisdiction. But as far as I know, a boxer should not bet on himself. Because from what I read before, in British boxing rules, boxers are not permitted to bet on themselves.

But having a quick search, I found this article -

Floyd Mayweather says he’s going to bet on himself. Can he really do that?


And since this fight happened in New York, hence, betting on himself is not illegal. So I guess, this is per jurisdiction, how they view on betting themselves in the sports of boxing.

[Balmain]

I like how Devin and his father were talking all the time, that Ryan has got only left hook in his arsenal and that is it. 1 minute of round almost has ended, and Ryan shook Devin with that left hook That is just lol. If Devin knew about that one and only left hood, then why Ryan connected it so clearly Round 7 - same thing landed Devin ass on canvass.  Round 10, same left hook. Round 11 - again left.

The only one I feel sorry for was Bill Haney. Watching your kid losing, getting beating and you are not able to give him an advice that Devin waited so much every time when was in the corner is hard.

Father and son relations were on the positive side and their constant conversations were very good. The father must have felt very bad because he couldn't do anything while his son was being defeated there, and I felt sad. A good comeback from Ryan Garcia, he was criticized a lot for having a one dimensional fight with problems for his boxing to step back and only has one weapon in his arsenal and that is the left hook. He shook Haney in one particular way, and in general, Haney took these blows so many times that I was surprised that he could not defend them.

[avp2306]

I like how Devin and his father were talking all the time, that Ryan has got only left hook in his arsenal and that is it. 1 minute of round almost has ended, and Ryan shook Devin with that left hook That is just lol. If Devin knew about that one and only left hood, then why Ryan connected it so clearly Round 7 - same thing landed Devin ass on canvass.  Round 10, same left hook. Round 11 - again left.

The only one I feel sorry for was Bill Haney. Watching your kid losing, getting beating and you are not able to give him an advice that Devin waited so much every time when was in the corner is hard.

Father and son relations were on the positive side and their constant conversations were very good. The father must have felt very bad because he couldn't do anything while his son was being defeated there, and I felt sad. A good comeback from Ryan Garcia, he was criticized a lot for having a one dimensional fight with problems for his boxing to step back and only has one weapon in his arsenal and that is the left hook. He shook Haney in one particular way, and in general, Haney took these blows so many times that I was surprised that he could not defend them.

They fall on the strategy made by garcia and this is really brilliant one a history has been created since no one really thought he's gonna win since he  make it looks like he's unprepared and caught up by mental issues that's why Haney caught off guard. For sure they are ashamed with that result since no one expect that this will gonna happen but Garcia show up some greatness and exhibit his speed and power. Lots of potential for this guy since for sure we can see more big fights for him. Haney should do a good comeback and think about a rematch since it will be good to see another Garcia and Haney part two soon.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

Yes, I read that too, I think most boxers are doing that as well, betting on them that they are going to win. So I'm not surprised by it, what surprises me is the confidence that the can win that big amount and as we have said, it's not even close, Haney was outsmart inside and outside the ring of Ryan Garcia. And for sure, Haney could have also bet on him to get a win here.

And here is Bill's reaction to his son defeat: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TNP2o5fA2vU

[robelneo]

Haney should do a good comeback and think about a rematch since it will be good to see another Garcia and Haney part two soon.

Not an immediate rematch he needs to build his confidence I read that his mandatory challenger is Sandor Martin, Sandor Martin is a good one he fought and floored Teofimo Lopez he is a technical fighter but lacks the power it will be another big challenge for Haney.

Devin is not showing himself in the media after his devastating loss, all talks come from his father Bill Haney, he should show up and tell his supporters that he's ok and move on, its better to come out on his mouth.
The social medias are so full of before and after the fight and so many memes comes out related to this fight, this is a candidate for the match of the year.

[bbc.reporter]

He humiliated Haney, who was considered to be the pound-for-pound champion, everyone was taken for a ride, and Haney kept saying that he shut down Garcia and retired him, but it ended Haney is the one that got shut down.
The score 112 - 112 is not right, it's good that the other two judges made the right decision because everyone who watched the fight knew that Garcia beat Haney, not only beat him but mauled him and humiliated him.

Devin Haney has woken up from a good rest and he is still a champion. However, he will look on the mirror and this will be his face.

Nah he's fine man. haha...Give him a chance, he was smart to still have this belt because that wasn't a championship fight, but his undefeated record is one. I think Ryan should talk trash on him again so he can get a rematch and will have an easy win. Also, I'm wondering if how aggressive the champions now for trying to lure Haney to a fight in a unification fight. That was a big loss by Haney, for sure his confidence was shaken big time and his possible opponets might have boosted their confident seeing the result.

Yes, he is very fine. He has his purse and he has his super lightweight championship, however, he does not have his rematch clause because he thought he was the sure winner and he did not want to give King Ry another chance hehehehe.

Devin Haney's manager and agents are looking at themselves on the mirror, asking themselves how they will sell his next payperview.



We can be quite certain that Pitbull, Teo and Matias are presently wishing to have a bigger payperview purse vs. King Ry. However, I speculate that King Ry's next fight will be on catchweight.

[Dave1]

Haney should do a good comeback and think about a rematch since it will be good to see another Garcia and Haney part two soon.

Not an immediate rematch he needs to build his confidence I read that his mandatory challenger is Sandor Martin, Sandor Martin is a good one he fought and floored Teofimo Lopez he is a technical fighter but lacks the power it will be another big challenge for Haney.

Devin is not showing himself in the media after his devastating loss, all talks come from his father Bill Haney, he should show up and tell his supporters that he's ok and move on, its better to come out on his mouth.
The social medias are so full of before and after the fight and so many memes comes out related to this fight, this is a candidate for the match of the year.

But Ryan said that he might not fight at 140 lbs anymore, obviously, in this fight, he weighs over at 143 lbs causing the fight to be a non-title. And he said that no matter how he tried to make the weight, he can't do it. So meaning his next fight will be at 147 lbs and yeah, he could be going up another weigh class and it will be very interesting how he will do at the list of the champions.

I wouldn't say that it could be a fight of the year though, it was a dominant win by Ryan and it's not like a go back and forth fight and was really close in the end.

[Synchronice]

There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

In what sane world is athlete allowed to bet on himself? I thought that athletes and their family members were prohibited from placing a bet because it gives them the opportunity to abuse the outcome of the match. Also, what sane casino was willing to take a bet from Ryan on himself? I just don't understand this.

And since this fight happened in New York, hence, betting on himself is not illegal. So I guess, this is per jurisdiction, how they view on betting themselves in the sports of boxing.

When athlete makes a bet on himself, for me, it automatically means that it's an attempt of match-fixing. Maybe athlete A bets on his own win and athlete B agrees with him and after the win they share money?

[btc_angela]

And the hype is still there for Ryan Garcia, as he released this music videos,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmP9tpeHFw

Lol, but that's how he is, still capitalizing in his big win and so everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Everyone is praising him, while there are former boxers like Thurman and Broner hitting on Haney and his dad for this big lost.

[Hirose UK]

I like how Devin and his father were talking all the time, that Ryan has got only left hook in his arsenal and that is it. 1 minute of round almost has ended, and Ryan shook Devin with that left hook That is just lol. If Devin knew about that one and only left hood, then why Ryan connected it so clearly Round 7 - same thing landed Devin ass on canvass.  Round 10, same left hook. Round 11 - again left.

The only one I feel sorry for was Bill Haney. Watching your kid losing, getting beating and you are not able to give him an advice that Devin waited so much every time when was in the corner is hard.

Father and son relations were on the positive side and their constant conversations were very good. The father must have felt very bad because he couldn't do anything while his son was being defeated there, and I felt sad. A good comeback from Ryan Garcia, he was criticized a lot for having a one dimensional fight with problems for his boxing to step back and only has one weapon in his arsenal and that is the left hook. He shook Haney in one particular way, and in general, Haney took these blows so many times that I was surprised that he could not defend them.

It was truly surprising fight, indeed Haney had good communication relationship with his father and we all know what they talked about but in reality Haney couldn't resist what Garcia gave him.
In this fight it was clear that there were three rounds that were quite interesting, the first round when Haney received Garcia left hook and he immediately started to wobble then for the 7th and 11th rounds it was strong blow and made Haney fall.
In fact, Haney knew that Garcia had very deadly left hook, but he couldn't avoid it and several times provided openings for Garcia to enter with his left hook.
If Haney hadn't pushed himself, perhaps this fight would have finished sooner in the 7th round and he would have decided to get up until defeat became inevitable.

This win really took everyone by surprise and of course many didn't believe it, I initially wasn't so sure Garcia could be that good after he did some ridiculous things that had everyone talking about his behavior.

[aioc]

Haney should do a good comeback and think about a rematch since it will be good to see another Garcia and Haney part two soon.

Not an immediate rematch he needs to build his confidence I read that his mandatory challenger is Sandor Martin, Sandor Martin is a good one he fought and floored Teofimo Lopez he is a technical fighter but lacks the power it will be another big challenge for Haney.

Devin is not showing himself in the media after his devastating loss, all talks come from his father Bill Haney, he should show up and tell his supporters that he's ok and move on, its better to come out on his mouth.
The social medias are so full of before and after the fight and so many memes comes out related to this fight, this is a candidate for the match of the year.

But Ryan said that he might not fight at 140 lbs anymore, obviously, in this fight, he weighs over at 143 lbs causing the fight to be a non-title. And he said that no matter how he tried to make the weight, he can't do it. So meaning his next fight will be at 147 lbs and yeah, he could be going up another weigh class and it will be very interesting how he will do at the list of the champions.

I wouldn't say that it could be a fight of the year though, it was a dominant win by Ryan and it's not like a go back and forth fight and was really close in the end.

Ryan learned his lesson on not forcing himself to make the limit in weight because of the rehydration clause on Tank Davis so he is going to move in up but he should still try the superlightweight and fight Pitbull Cruz so he can at least win one title because he will have a hard time in the Welterweight where is loaded with great names like Boot s Ennis, Errol Spence and of course Crawford if he decides to come back to the Welterweight Division.
His concentration should be on winning a title besides beating big names in boxing so he can attain greatness

[Questat]

Ryan learned his lesson on not forcing himself to make the limit in weight because of the rehydration clause on Tank Davis so he is going to move in up but he should still try the superlightweight and fight Pitbull Cruz so he can at least win one title because he will have a hard time in the Welterweight where is loaded with great names like Boot s Ennis, Errol Spence and of course Crawford if he decides to come back to the Welterweight Division.
His concentration should be on winning a title besides beating big names in boxing so he can attain greatness

I guess now that Ryan had beat  Haney, people will change how they'll see the outcome of the potential fight of Ryan vs Pitbull Cruz. I think the linemakers as well, they'll make Ryan as the favorite to win against the champion. They were rumored to have fight before and I believe Pitbull Cruz was the one challenging him, but after learning how Ryan beat Haney, not sure if it's still a yes or a pass now.

[bittraffic]

Haney should do a good comeback and think about a rematch since it will be good to see another Garcia and Haney part two soon.

Not an immediate rematch he needs to build his confidence I read that his mandatory challenger is Sandor Martin, Sandor Martin is a good one he fought and floored Teofimo Lopez he is a technical fighter but lacks the power it will be another big challenge for Haney.

Devin is not showing himself in the media after his devastating loss, all talks come from his father Bill Haney, he should show up and tell his supporters that he's ok and move on, its better to come out on his mouth.
The social medias are so full of before and after the fight and so many memes comes out related to this fight, this is a candidate for the match of the year.

But Ryan said that he might not fight at 140 lbs anymore, obviously, in this fight, he weighs over at 143 lbs causing the fight to be a non-title. And he said that no matter how he tried to make the weight, he can't do it. So meaning his next fight will be at 147 lbs and yeah, he could be going up another weigh class and it will be very interesting how he will do at the list of the champions.

I wouldn't say that it could be a fight of the year though, it was a dominant win by Ryan and it's not like a go back and forth fight and was really close in the end.

Ryan learned his lesson on not forcing himself to make the limit in weight because of the rehydration clause on Tank Davis so he is going to move in up but he should still try the superlightweight and fight Pitbull Cruz so he can at least win one title because he will have a hard time in the Welterweight where is loaded with great names like Boot s Ennis, Errol Spence and of course Crawford if he decides to come back to the Welterweight Division.
His concentration should be on winning a title besides beating big names in boxing so he can attain greatness

After this win, Ryan really made the world crazy for more. I think another fight with him will make him more millions, the kid is more popular than ever. It was said he is up to fight Rolly Romero or Pitbull. Ryan is about to go up where there are bigger monsters.

The problem with Devin these days is that he wants to do a rematch but because he didn't have a rematch clause, he will have a hard time convincing Ryan to fight him again. This is what Haneys do to Loma, Loma also wasn;t given a chance to have a rematch against Haney despite a close fight.

[Balmain]

I like how Devin and his father were talking all the time, that Ryan has got only left hook in his arsenal and that is it. 1 minute of round almost has ended, and Ryan shook Devin with that left hook That is just lol. If Devin knew about that one and only left hood, then why Ryan connected it so clearly Round 7 - same thing landed Devin ass on canvass.  Round 10, same left hook. Round 11 - again left.

The only one I feel sorry for was Bill Haney. Watching your kid losing, getting beating and you are not able to give him an advice that Devin waited so much every time when was in the corner is hard.

Father and son relations were on the positive side and their constant conversations were very good. The father must have felt very bad because he couldn't do anything while his son was being defeated there, and I felt sad. A good comeback from Ryan Garcia, he was criticized a lot for having a one dimensional fight with problems for his boxing to step back and only has one weapon in his arsenal and that is the left hook. He shook Haney in one particular way, and in general, Haney took these blows so many times that I was surprised that he could not defend them.

They fall on the strategy made by garcia and this is really brilliant one a history has been created since no one really thought he's gonna win since he  make it looks like he's unprepared and caught up by mental issues that's why Haney caught off guard. For sure they are ashamed with that result since no one expect that this will gonna happen but Garcia show up some greatness and exhibit his speed and power. Lots of potential for this guy since for sure we can see more big fights for him. Haney should do a good comeback and think about a rematch since it will be good to see another Garcia and Haney part two soon.

I've heard that Haney and Garcia have met six times in the amateurs before. It was their first official match and there should definitely be a replay of this match. Haney and his father can prepare much better for this match, they should come up with a better game plan for Garcia. If Haney's effective left post had been activated, perhaps the result could have changed in the first game. As you said, Haney's mistake in the first match was that he thought Garcia would not be that strong and fast, so the first two rounds of the match started slowly. After receiving a left hook to his jaw, it affected him for the rest of the fight.

[bbc.reporter]

And the hype is still there for Ryan Garcia, as he released this music videos,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmP9tpeHFw

Lol, but that's how he is, still capitalizing in his big win and so everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Everyone is praising him, while there are former boxers like Thurman and Broner hitting on Haney and his dad for this big lost.

Everyone should watch this interview with Ryan Garcia. He talks about everything and how his roadmap from the beginning to the end of this fight with Haney was planned weeks before already. However, I have a question for everyone. Ryan appears to be acting like he is a super jesus, bible, born again, christian who is praising the lord and he said the holy spirit is showing him the future. But is this real or is he trolling everyone again? I reckon it appear that he might be trolling again or he might really be crazy heheheh.

https://youtu.be/LXtXcYUIO0M?si=0VYFi7xJCuo21Jbw

[Yaunfitda]

And the hype is still there for Ryan Garcia, as he released this music videos,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmP9tpeHFw

Lol, but that's how he is, still capitalizing in his big win and so everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Everyone is praising him, while there are former boxers like Thurman and Broner hitting on Haney and his dad for this big lost.

Everyone should watch this interview with Ryan Garcia. He talks about everything and how his roadmap from the beginning to the end of this fight with Haney was planned weeks before already. However, I have a question for everyone. Ryan appears to be acting like he is a super jesus, bible, born again, christian who is praising the lord and he said the holy spirit is showing him the future. But is this real or is he trolling everyone again? I reckon it appear that he might be trolling again or he might really be crazy heheheh.

https://youtu.be/LXtXcYUIO0M?si=0VYFi7xJCuo21Jbw

I didn't watch the video, it's too long. But Ryan Garcia has been acting like that before isn't it? He always call Jesus before and after the fight. So that is his persona if I'm not mistaken. But it's hard to judge whether he is a true Christian or Catholic with all his praises. Other boxers too, called for God or Jesus like Manny Pacquiao. So good for him, as he fooled us, but there are some truth in what he said, he is going into divorce and maybe it really put pressure on him or at least it bothered him during the fight that it causes him to act like a troll. But since he won, already, his strategy is perfect and Devin was affected by Ryan's antics before the fight.

[Dave1]

Haney should do a good comeback and think about a rematch since it will be good to see another Garcia and Haney part two soon.

Not an immediate rematch he needs to build his confidence I read that his mandatory challenger is Sandor Martin, Sandor Martin is a good one he fought and floored Teofimo Lopez he is a technical fighter but lacks the power it will be another big challenge for Haney.

Devin is not showing himself in the media after his devastating loss, all talks come from his father Bill Haney, he should show up and tell his supporters that he's ok and move on, its better to come out on his mouth.
The social medias are so full of before and after the fight and so many memes comes out related to this fight, this is a candidate for the match of the year.

But Ryan said that he might not fight at 140 lbs anymore, obviously, in this fight, he weighs over at 143 lbs causing the fight to be a non-title. And he said that no matter how he tried to make the weight, he can't do it. So meaning his next fight will be at 147 lbs and yeah, he could be going up another weigh class and it will be very interesting how he will do at the list of the champions.

I wouldn't say that it could be a fight of the year though, it was a dominant win by Ryan and it's not like a go back and forth fight and was really close in the end.

Ryan learned his lesson on not forcing himself to make the limit in weight because of the rehydration clause on Tank Davis so he is going to move in up but he should still try the superlightweight and fight Pitbull Cruz so he can at least win one title because he will have a hard time in the Welterweight where is loaded with great names like Boot s Ennis, Errol Spence and of course Crawford if he decides to come back to the Welterweight Division.
His concentration should be on winning a title besides beating big names in boxing so he can attain greatness

Yes, I think his team and Oscar himself might be the culprit after all. Just saying that he might be the brain behind Ryan no forcing himself to make the 140 lbs limit because as he said, as much as he wanted to, his body is not allowing him to make 140 lbs. So definitely big lessons on their lost to Tank Davis. And maybe we all thinking that if there are no rehydration clause and Ryan went in that fight at 140++ lbs, it could be a different outcome after all.

Anyhow, if Ryan jumps to 147 lbs, there are a lot of fighters that are going to wait for him. Not the immediate champions, but I like the name that you brought up which is Ennis who have been calling Crawford for years.

[btc_angela]

And the hype is still there for Ryan Garcia, as he released this music videos,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmP9tpeHFw

Lol, but that's how he is, still capitalizing in his big win and so everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Everyone is praising him, while there are former boxers like Thurman and Broner hitting on Haney and his dad for this big lost.

Everyone should watch this interview with Ryan Garcia. He talks about everything and how his roadmap from the beginning to the end of this fight with Haney was planned weeks before already. However, I have a question for everyone. Ryan appears to be acting like he is a super jesus, bible, born again, christian who is praising the lord and he said the holy spirit is showing him the future. But is this real or is he trolling everyone again? I reckon it appear that he might be trolling again or he might really be crazy heheheh.

https://youtu.be/LXtXcYUIO0M?si=0VYFi7xJCuo21Jbw

Maybe it is still part of his persona to call Jesus and God in his every fight. It could be an act for all we know. And it's very effective as everyone says that they have been fooled but not those who are around Ryan, including Oscar.

Oscar says that he knows that Ryan is trying hard behind close doors. But when he goes to the media, it's very different on how he portray himself and he admit that it was yes, part of the plan to market the fight and it's very effective for him and Haney wasn't expecting that he will come with those big left hook.

[coin-investor]

Finally, Devin made an official announcement after the beating he wants a rematch at an agreed weight but
he is making excuses about the additional weight when in fact he agreed and bet and claimed the $1.6 million its his fault that he agreed to proceed even if Ryan is overweight.
Champions don't make excuses, I hope he gets better the next opponent is already announced so he should prepare for Sandor Martin.

[bittraffic]

And the hype is still there for Ryan Garcia, as he released this music videos,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmP9tpeHFw

Lol, but that's how he is, still capitalizing in his big win and so everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Everyone is praising him, while there are former boxers like Thurman and Broner hitting on Haney and his dad for this big lost.

Everyone should watch this interview with Ryan Garcia. He talks about everything and how his roadmap from the beginning to the end of this fight with Haney was planned weeks before already. However, I have a question for everyone. Ryan appears to be acting like he is a super jesus, bible, born again, christian who is praising the lord and he said the holy spirit is showing him the future. But is this real or is he trolling everyone again? I reckon it appear that he might be trolling again or he might really be crazy heheheh.

https://youtu.be/LXtXcYUIO0M?si=0VYFi7xJCuo21Jbw

Maybe it is still part of his persona to call Jesus and God in his every fight. It could be an act for all we know. And it's very effective as everyone says that they have been fooled but not those who are around Ryan, including Oscar.

Oscar says that he knows that Ryan is trying hard behind close doors. But when he goes to the media, it's very different on how he portray himself and he admit that it was yes, part of the plan to market the fight and it's very effective for him and Haney wasn't expecting that he will come with those big left hook.

Haney is just mediocre. We could see he isn't a KO artist compared to Garcia. Whether Ryaan prepared for the fight or party every night, the kid they thought was a one-trick phony won the fight.

Rumor this time is that he will be fighting Sean Omalley since they are constantly exchanging on social media. Ryan initiated the trolling weeks before he fought Haney so now the dare is in. IF Dana allows it Garcia may be fighting the rainbow guy from MMA.

[Eternad]

Haney is just mediocre. We could see he isn't a KO artist compared to Garcia. Whether Ryaan prepared for the fight or party every night, the kid they thought was a one-trick phony won the fight.

Haney is not a mediocre, he is just outmatched and outplayed by Garcia on their match due to unknown reason. Being a guy that doesn’t have much K.O on records is not a sign of weakness since Boxing prioritized score over K.O since there’s no guarantee that you can finish your opponent. Haney is a decent champion, he might have a chance to redeem himself on a rematch.

Rumor this time is that he will be fighting Sean Omalley since they are constantly exchanging on social media. Ryan initiated the trolling weeks before he fought Haney so now the dare is in. IF Dana allows it Garcia may be fighting the rainbow guy from MMA.

Sean will surely dominated once this fight happened. Ryan is on different league now that he already reclaimed his glory through his recent win to prove that he is already back.

[bbc.reporter]

Finally, Devin made an official announcement after the beating he wants a rematch at an agreed weight but
he is making excuses about the additional weight when in fact he agreed and bet and claimed the $1.6 million its his fault that he agreed to proceed even if Ryan is overweight.
Champions don't make excuses, I hope he gets better the next opponent is already announced so he should prepare for Sandor Martin.

Agreed. However, I am beginning to speculate that the bet on their weight cut might be a trick for Devin Haney to accept and continue the fight if King Ry was overweight hehehehe. I reckon after the tricks that was done to King Ry by the rehydration clause enforcer Tank Davis, King Ry has learned that the war begins before they fight in the boxing ring. I am very much excited for this new version of King Ry and his next fight! I wish this will be against Tank on catchweight.

[Yaunfitda]

Finally, Devin made an official announcement after the beating he wants a rematch at an agreed weight but
he is making excuses about the additional weight when in fact he agreed and bet and claimed the $1.6 million its his fault that he agreed to proceed even if Ryan is overweight.
Champions don't make excuses, I hope he gets better the next opponent is already announced so he should prepare for Sandor Martin.

Agreed. However, I am beginning to speculate that the bet on their weight cut might be a trick for Devin Haney to accept and continue the fight if King Ry was overweight hehehehe. I reckon after the tricks that was done to King Ry by the rehydration clause enforcer Tank Davis, King Ry has learned that the war begins before they fight in the boxing ring. I am very much excited for this new version of King Ry and his next fight! I wish this will be against Tank on catchweight.

Or it could backfire on Ryan Garcia moving forward? I mean his future opponents know his trick now and so they won't just ride on the speculations that he is crazy and not trying or partying before the fight because this is want Ryan wanted to portray. And so we can see that is very effective as Bill and Devin admitted that they have been trick here. So whoever Ryan's next opponent will be, he will have to know before hand that this is a psyche war that Ryan and everything is for publicity stunt and so his opponents should focus on the fight not on Ryan social media posts or what he tries to show in public.

[TopTort777]

Finally, Devin made an official announcement after the beating he wants a rematch at an agreed weight but
he is making excuses about the additional weight when in fact he agreed and bet and claimed the $1.6 million its his fault that he agreed to proceed even if Ryan is overweight.
Champions don't make excuses, I hope he gets better the next opponent is already announced so he should prepare for Sandor Martin.

Lol yeah. Making excuses are always look lame. Why would not he just say that Ryan was better that night, congratulate him, offer him a rematch and promise to be better. Instead of complaining about overweight. What would Devin say, if Ryan made weight and beat him? Who or what will be guilty then? What stopped Devin from also getting 3.2lb before the fight? They did not fight straight after weight-ins. So nobody knows their real weight during fight.

[TravelMug]

^^ there is one boxing forum that says Haney is heavier in the fight itself,

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/devin-haney-and-ryan-garcia%E2%80%99s-real-weight-in-the-night.719855/

I've seen two weights reported for both, not sure what the accurate one is.

Garcia 153
Haney 156

or

Garcia 161
Haney 165

So if this is true, then Haney is far bigger than Ryan fight night and so that 3 pounds is nothing and probably that's why Haney agreed as he knows that he can rehydrated to 160'ish pounds and be the heavier puncher just like in the Regis Prograis fight. But it's obvious that even if he is the heavier, Ryan Garcia's left hook is deadly and he has shown that power even in lower weight class.

[TopTort777]

Sadly I am not a huge boxing expert, but those 1-2kg extra make so much different when fighting a professional boxer? If a person is 10+ heavier, than I know how his punches feel and feel difference in strength. But they are professionals, the must know how to turn other boxers difference compared to you into your advantage. Devin must knew how to turn those extra 3.2lb into advantage for him. Heavier opponents always is slower and looses stamina faster. He must have adopted to "heavier version Garcia" during the fight. Instead he ate Garcias left hook after just one minute of the fight.

Crying that Garcia was heavier and that is why he has won is so lame. Devin could have gone to KFC, get extra spicy wings that will give him those 3.2lb and a speed, because if he fights slows, he wont make it to WC and his ass would burn.

[inthelongrun]

I agree that weight difference is also a factor. Haney was heavier than Ryan at fight night but somehow there was an advantage when Ryan did not dropped down in weight to make 140. Imagine how weak and dehydrated Ryan was killing himself to make 140. Ryan can rehydrate after the weigh in but there would've been much more weight difference if Ryan did not started rehydrating from 143.

Nonetheless, Haney accepted the $1.5 million weight penalty and said he will beat Ryan at any weight. He and his dad should be ashamed. They're weight bully for many years already.

[btc_angela]

I agree that weight difference is also a factor. Haney was heavier than Ryan at fight night but somehow there was an advantage when Ryan did not dropped down in weight to make 140. Imagine how weak and dehydrated Ryan was killing himself to make 140. Ryan can rehydrate after the weigh in but there would've been much more weight difference if Ryan did not started rehydrating from 143.

Nonetheless, Haney accepted the $1.5 million weight penalty and said he will beat Ryan at any weight. He and his dad should be ashamed. They're weight bully for many years already.

And we know the reasons, Ryan can't make 140 lbs simply as that and instead of draining himself again like the Davis fight and then come fight night he doesn't have anything because of the weight cut, then he just decided to go over the weight limit and willing to pay $500k for extra pound? obviously it paid off for Ryan.

If I'm not mistaken, I could have heard $1 million per pound during that heated argument and then settled at $500k.

So they are really exposed by Ryan here and they could man up to accept his first defeat and then go back and fight again and no excuses at all.

[avp2306]

I agree that weight difference is also a factor. Haney was heavier than Ryan at fight night but somehow there was an advantage when Ryan did not dropped down in weight to make 140. Imagine how weak and dehydrated Ryan was killing himself to make 140. Ryan can rehydrate after the weigh in but there would've been much more weight difference if Ryan did not started rehydrating from 143.

Nonetheless, Haney accepted the $1.5 million weight penalty and said he will beat Ryan at any weight. He and his dad should be ashamed. They're weight bully for many years already.

And we know the reasons, Ryan can't make 140 lbs simply as that and instead of draining himself again like the Davis fight and then come fight night he doesn't have anything because of the weight cut, then he just decided to go over the weight limit and willing to pay $500k for extra pound? obviously it paid off for Ryan.

If I'm not mistaken, I could have heard $1 million per pound during that heated argument and then settled at $500k.

So they are really exposed by Ryan here and they could man up to accept his first defeat and then go back and fight again and no excuses at all.

They can't make the weight as the reason of their defeat since they all agree to fight at that condition so its really dumb reasoning that Ryan just win because of that reason. Also Haney is in good condition before the fight happen that's why fans will not buy their reasoning since Garcia's victory is well celebrated by lots of boxing fans which have been surprised for the result of their match. Also paying that $1.5m pays off for him since he got a lot of money in return plus he always win by betting on his self so the penalty is just nothing for him.

Haney's camp should accept their first defeat since they will just put their selves on spotlight and people will talk about how shameful they are since its clearly seen that he is beaten badly by garcia.

[Yaunfitda]

Sadly I am not a huge boxing expert, but those 1-2kg extra make so much different when fighting a professional boxer? If a person is 10+ heavier, than I know how his punches feel and feel difference in strength. But they are professionals, the must know how to turn other boxers difference compared to you into your advantage. Devin must knew how to turn those extra 3.2lb into advantage for him. Heavier opponents always is slower and looses stamina faster. He must have adopted to "heavier version Garcia" during the fight. Instead he ate Garcias left hook after just one minute of the fight.

But it seems that Haney is the heavier in the fight? So I guess there excuse that Ryan is heavier excuse is not true at all, Ryan was really that good and Haney was not able to adjust in that fight. They were caught by surprised by the power of that left hook, although I will say that Haney's father should expect that. Haney admitted that they slept on Ryan's power. So they understand him thinking that they can just bully him. And in this lost, it just shows maybe that Haney didn't win the fight against Loma as well. If Loma had the power then maybe he can also put Haney in the canvass.

Anyone here this news?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-13354777/Ryan-Garcia-promises-KNOCK-Errol-Spence-Jr-trainer-Derrick-James-filed-5MILLION-lawsuit-against-former-welterweight-champion.html

Ryan Garcia promises to 'KNOCK OUT' Errol Spence Jr after his trainer Derrick James filed a $5MILLION lawsuit against the former welterweight champion

[btc_angela]

^^ Ok, with that news it's official that Derrick James and Errol Spence has separated already. But it's just sad to here that it's not amicably as based on that lawsuit, Spence still owns James a lot of money or at least from the Crawford vs Spence fight.

And enter Ryan Garcia, he said that he wants to fight Errol Spence now, Lol. Its seems that Ryan is calling everyone now. But in any case, for Oscar this is a good story board, Ryan wanted to knockout Spence for his trainer, sort of revenge story.

[Jating]

^^ Ok, with that news it's official that Derrick James and Errol Spence has separated already. But it's just sad to here that it's not amicably as based on that lawsuit, Spence still owns James a lot of money or at least from the Crawford vs Spence fight.

And enter Ryan Garcia, he said that he wants to fight Errol Spence now, Lol. Its seems that Ryan is calling everyone now. But in any case, for Oscar this is a good story board, Ryan wanted to knockout Spence for his trainer, sort of revenge story.

Yes, that is great fight, if Ryan is moving up to 147 lbs and then wanted to test the former champion in Spence Jr, then sign the deal. For the lawsuit, it's big money that they are talking here and I agree that it's very bad to see how everything ends up with the two.

As per article, Derrick James has been with Spence since his Olympic days or at least at the start of his boxing career and guided him to become a great boxer and a world champion. However, it looks like Spence doesn't want his services no more and so James have to get back what he think deserves of him as a payment for being a coach or mentor for Spence for many years.

[mirakal]

^^ Ok, with that news it's official that Derrick James and Errol Spence has separated already. But it's just sad to here that it's not amicably as based on that lawsuit, Spence still owns James a lot of money or at least from the Crawford vs Spence fight.

And enter Ryan Garcia, he said that he wants to fight Errol Spence now, Lol. Its seems that Ryan is calling everyone now. But in any case, for Oscar this is a good story board, Ryan wanted to knockout Spence for his trainer, sort of revenge story.

Yes, that is great fight, if Ryan is moving up to 147 lbs and then wanted to test the former champion in Spence Jr, then sign the deal. For the lawsuit, it's big money that they are talking here and I agree that it's very bad to see how everything ends up with the two.

As per article, Derrick James has been with Spence since his Olympic days or at least at the start of his boxing career and guided him to become a great boxer and a world champion. However, it looks like Spence doesn't want his services no more and so James have to get back what he think deserves of him as a payment for being a coach or mentor for Spence for many years.

I don't want to comment on the legal part but I am very much interested with this news that Ryan is challenging Errol Spence Jr... He is not stopping and I like the path he is taking because he is not backing down, I mean he wants to take risk by getting into big fights that would truly entertain the crowd.

Ryan had already proven that he isn't a joke, he could talk trash but he could beat a fighter in the ring. I believe Errol is strong but he is slow, so I think Ryan could beat him, and then maybe next target is Terence Crawford?

[coin-investor]

^^ Ok, with that news it's official that Derrick James and Errol Spence has separated already. But it's just sad to here that it's not amicably as based on that lawsuit, Spence still owns James a lot of money or at least from the Crawford vs Spence fight.

They will still meet as the world of international boxing is small and since Ryan is interested in fighting Errol Spence it will be some sort of a grudge match.

And enter Ryan Garcia, he said that he wants to fight Errol Spence now, Lol. Its seems that Ryan is calling everyone now. But in any case, for Oscar this is a good story board, Ryan wanted to knockout Spence for his trainer, sort of revenge story.

If ever this fight will materialize, Spence better pay Derrick his dues so it will not become an issue, because Ryan will use this to distract Spence.
It's still unclear who Ryan is going to fight but I lean on a Pitbull Cruz match since he keeps on bragging that he can easily beat Pitbull Cruz, I hope Pitbull disposes of Valenzuela so there's a possibility that the match between him and Ryan happen.

[Viscore]

If ever this fight will materialize, Spence better pay Derrick his dues so it will not become an issue, because Ryan will use this to distract Spence.
It's still unclear who Ryan is going to fight but I lean on a Pitbull Cruz match since he keeps on bragging that he can easily beat Pitbull Cruz, I hope Pitbull disposes of Valenzuela so there's a possibility that the match between him and Ryan happen.

If Ryan wants a belt, he can easily choose Pitbull Cruz. I think Ryan's boxing skills is way better than Pitbull Cruz, and since he already know how to use his advantage and could make the right adjustment in the ring, he should easily win here. However, I don't think it's gonna be a short fight, because Pitbull Cruz has never been KO in his boxing career and even game Tank Davis a tough fight although he loss via decision.

[Kemarit]

If ever this fight will materialize, Spence better pay Derrick his dues so it will not become an issue, because Ryan will use this to distract Spence.
It's still unclear who Ryan is going to fight but I lean on a Pitbull Cruz match since he keeps on bragging that he can easily beat Pitbull Cruz, I hope Pitbull disposes of Valenzuela so there's a possibility that the match between him and Ryan happen.

If Ryan wants a belt, he can easily choose Pitbull Cruz. I think Ryan's boxing skills is way better than Pitbull Cruz, and since he already know how to use his advantage and could make the right adjustment in the ring, he should easily win here. However, I don't think it's gonna be a short fight, because Pitbull Cruz has never been KO in his boxing career and even game Tank Davis a tough fight although he loss via decision.

Yeah, if he wanted a belt then he can choose Pitbull Cruz and for sure he will be the favorite. But if he wants more money then he can chase Errol Spence Jr and put a spin of that he wanted to avenge Derrick Jones and I do agree he will used the lawsuit against Spence and play Errol and will try to get into his head.

The thing though with a fight with Pitbull is that Ryan says he can't make 140 lbs anymore, so it will be at a catch weight and we don't know if Cruz or his camp are willing to do that. It will be obviously at 143 lbs like what Ryan weight during the Haney fight.

[bbc.reporter]

Finally, Devin made an official announcement after the beating he wants a rematch at an agreed weight but
he is making excuses about the additional weight when in fact he agreed and bet and claimed the $1.6 million its his fault that he agreed to proceed even if Ryan is overweight.
Champions don't make excuses, I hope he gets better the next opponent is already announced so he should prepare for Sandor Martin.

Agreed. However, I am beginning to speculate that the bet on their weight cut might be a trick for Devin Haney to accept and continue the fight if King Ry was overweight hehehehe. I reckon after the tricks that was done to King Ry by the rehydration clause enforcer Tank Davis, King Ry has learned that the war begins before they fight in the boxing ring. I am very much excited for this new version of King Ry and his next fight! I wish this will be against Tank on catchweight.

Or it could backfire on Ryan Garcia moving forward? I mean his future opponents know his trick now and so they won't just ride on the speculations that he is crazy and not trying or partying before the fight because this is want Ryan wanted to portray. And so we can see that is very effective as Bill and Devin admitted that they have been trick here. So whoever Ryan's next opponent will be, he will have to know before hand that this is a psyche war that Ryan and everything is for publicity stunt and so his opponents should focus on the fight not on Ryan social media posts or what he tries to show in public.

However, how would this backfire if King Ry does not use this trick again? Similar to what you have said, it already very much known that he has much difficulty going under 143 pounds. I reckon much of his fights will be on catchweight. He might only try to fight in super lightweight if he wants to win a championship, however, this will only be a risk for him, I reckon. If Pitbull and the scammer Tank wants to challenge him, they will only have a chance on carchweight 145 pounds.

According to this article, these are the boxers that King Ry has mentioned that might be his next opponents. There will be Tank, Fundora, Errol Spence, Pitbull, Conor Benn and Sugar Sean.



Since beating Haney, he has called out Davis at a higher catchweight. "Everyone wanna talk about the little Stupid tank," Garcia has posted on X, formerly Twitter. "Let's fight, [enough] of that funny talk. Come see me at 144[lbs], and [let's] stop the talk. If you beat [Frank Martin], let's run it [Gervonta Davis]."

Garcia has also teased fighting UFC bantamweight champion Sean O'Malley. The MMA star has spoken about stepping into the boxing ring in the future.

Davis, though, is far from the only boxer Garcia has called out. Since the Haney fight, he has also hinted at facing former unified welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr. "Wait RG vs Errol would be crazy," he posted on X. "Nah y'all want that? Let me hear you," before later claiming: "Errol Spence can't beat me."

But in his pursuit of becoming a world champion, Sebastian Fundora is someone Garcia has called out multiple times. "I'm moving up to 154 to knock out [Sebastian] Fundora," he remarked to a reporter before the Haney fight.

That would see Garcia jump up multiple divisions to challenge the WBC and WBO light middleweight champion. "I personally wanna beat up Fundora for the 154-pound title," Garcia has since said on X's Spaces. "I know he's 6-foot-6, but I can knock him out cold. I will put Fundora to sleep."

He added: "I need a title just to do it, just to shut people up," in response to the suggestion of fighting former WBA super lightweight champion Rolly Ramirez. Garcia has also mentioned the fighter that dethroned Ramirez, Issac Cruz, on social media by his nickname "Pitbull." However, he acknowledged that "this one would be hard to make."

Immediately after beating Haney, he also called out Conor Benn, remarking: "Let's run it in London at the 02."

Read in full https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/boxing/ryan-garcia-has-named-two-options-for-next-fight-after-beating-devin-haney/

[coin-investor]

Ryan's success is going on his head he also mentioned that he also wants to fight Anthony Joshua can you imagine that, he thinks he is invincible right now, he admitted that he had ADHD in one of his interviews we can understand his situation but telling something almost impossible is something worth laughing about.

His likely opponent is Pitbull Cruz because he has a good chance of beating him compared to Spence who he only wants to fight because of Derrick James issue.
Right now with Ryan Garcia's success, all eyes are on him because of his unnatural antics outside of the ring.

[inthelongrun]

^^ Ok, with that news it's official that Derrick James and Errol Spence has separated already. But it's just sad to here that it's not amicably as based on that lawsuit, Spence still owns James a lot of money or at least from the Crawford vs Spence fight.

They will still meet as the world of international boxing is small and since Ryan is interested in fighting Errol Spence it will be some sort of a grudge match.

And enter Ryan Garcia, he said that he wants to fight Errol Spence now, Lol. Its seems that Ryan is calling everyone now. But in any case, for Oscar this is a good story board, Ryan wanted to knockout Spence for his trainer, sort of revenge story.

If ever this fight will materialize, Spence better pay Derrick his dues so it will not become an issue, because Ryan will use this to distract Spence.
It's still unclear who Ryan is going to fight but I lean on a Pitbull Cruz match since he keeps on bragging that he can easily beat Pitbull Cruz, I hope Pitbull disposes of Valenzuela so there's a possibility that the match between him and Ryan happen.

I am interested to hear the side of Spence with regards to him owing money on his fight with Bud. But then there's a lawsuit already so we will figure out soon who's liable and who's not.

Spence wanted Fundora for the WBO and WBC belt at 154. Tim who owns a rematch clause with Fundora is now facing Vergil Ortiz this coming August 3 which also includes Pitbull Cruz defending his WBO belt. Spence might get a shot at Fundora and then the winner faces Tszyu if the Aussie beats Ortiz.

I don't know if Ryan is just hyping or he is serious about Spence. Spence has no interest at 147 anymore while Ryan's has zero experience at a full 147 weight. But I think Spence will easily destroy Ryan at 147 or above. If it was Spence banging those body shots Ryan would've folded but luckily it was Haney who has zero knockout since becoming a champion.

[Jating]

^^ Ok, with that news it's official that Derrick James and Errol Spence has separated already. But it's just sad to here that it's not amicably as based on that lawsuit, Spence still owns James a lot of money or at least from the Crawford vs Spence fight.

They will still meet as the world of international boxing is small and since Ryan is interested in fighting Errol Spence it will be some sort of a grudge match.

And enter Ryan Garcia, he said that he wants to fight Errol Spence now, Lol. Its seems that Ryan is calling everyone now. But in any case, for Oscar this is a good story board, Ryan wanted to knockout Spence for his trainer, sort of revenge story.

If ever this fight will materialize, Spence better pay Derrick his dues so it will not become an issue, because Ryan will use this to distract Spence.
It's still unclear who Ryan is going to fight but I lean on a Pitbull Cruz match since he keeps on bragging that he can easily beat Pitbull Cruz, I hope Pitbull disposes of Valenzuela so there's a possibility that the match between him and Ryan happen.

I am interested to hear the side of Spence with regards to him owing money on his fight with Bud. But then there's a lawsuit already so we will figure out soon who's liable and who's not.

Spence wanted Fundora for the WBO and WBC belt at 154. Tim who owns a rematch clause with Fundora is now facing Vergil Ortiz this coming August 3 which also includes Pitbull Cruz defending his WBO belt. Spence might get a shot at Fundora and then the winner faces Tszyu if the Aussie beats Ortiz.

I don't know if Ryan is just hyping or he is serious about Spence. Spence has no interest at 147 anymore while Ryan's has zero experience at a full 147 weight. But I think Spence will easily destroy Ryan at 147 or above. If it was Spence banging those body shots Ryan would've folded but luckily it was Haney who has zero knockout since becoming a champion.

Not sure but I read that he just paid $350,000 for Derrick James services and it's all verbal?

And probably after he severed his ties with James, then Derrick will have to find a way to get at his money that he knows Spence own him. So the best way for him is to do it legally. But it's crazy what numbers Derrick are asking though.

If ever Derrick wins here, I don't think the judge will award that in full, there could be some compromise.

[bbc.reporter]

Ryan's success is going on his head he also mentioned that he also wants to fight Anthony Joshua can you imagine that, he thinks he is invincible right now, he admitted that he had ADHD in one of his interviews we can understand his situation but telling something almost impossible is something worth laughing about.

His likely opponent is Pitbull Cruz because he has a good chance of beating him compared to Spence who he only wants to fight because of Derrick James issue.
Right now with Ryan Garcia's success, all eyes are on him because of his unnatural antics outside of the ring.

It appears that you are the perfect victim for the trolling of King Ry in social media hehehehe. This occurs to people who are always believing in what they read on the internet or in newspapers. They are using you and taking advantage of you my friend. King Ry has tricked many people already, I shake my head that this is still working on some people. Everyone should begin to be very skeptical on what Ryan will say. He will be a crazier troll or he might be starting to have a real sickness in his head. I am quite certain he is only trolling.

[TravelMug]

Ryan's success is going on his head he also mentioned that he also wants to fight Anthony Joshua can you imagine that, he thinks he is invincible right now, he admitted that he had ADHD in one of his interviews we can understand his situation but telling something almost impossible is something worth laughing about.

His likely opponent is Pitbull Cruz because he has a good chance of beating him compared to Spence who he only wants to fight because of Derrick James issue.
Right now with Ryan Garcia's success, all eyes are on him because of his unnatural antics outside of the ring.

It appears that you are the perfect victim for the trolling of King Ry in social media hehehehe. This occurs to people who are always believing in what they read on the internet or in newspapers. They are using you and taking advantage of you my friend. King Ry has tricked many people already, I shake my head that this is still working on some people. Everyone should begin to be very skeptical on what Ryan will say. He will be a crazier troll or he might be starting to have a real sickness in his head. I am quite certain he is only trolling.

And Ryan started to troll again, but as boxing fans, we all know that it is not possible for him to fight a heavyweight simple as that. I remember Ryan says before as well that he will be fighting Manny Pacquaio next and the boxing world was abuzz when he posted that I will tell you that I also feel for it as I thought that it's real. But after this fight and he wins, everyone should know that Ryan is a total troll, he might have his mental issues or he has ADHD which is by now very obvious. So we will see who he will be fighting for it it's officially announced. Pitbull Cruz name might be in the list if Ryan will love to have a belt. But I hear Oscar's interview that they are not interested on Pitbull Cruz for now.

[qwertyup23]

Ryan's success is going on his head he also mentioned that he also wants to fight Anthony Joshua can you imagine that, he thinks he is invincible right now, he admitted that he had ADHD in one of his interviews we can understand his situation but telling something almost impossible is something worth laughing about.

His likely opponent is Pitbull Cruz because he has a good chance of beating him compared to Spence who he only wants to fight because of Derrick James issue.
Right now with Ryan Garcia's success, all eyes are on him because of his unnatural antics outside of the ring.

It appears that you are the perfect victim for the trolling of King Ry in social media hehehehe. This occurs to people who are always believing in what they read on the internet or in newspapers. They are using you and taking advantage of you my friend. King Ry has tricked many people already, I shake my head that this is still working on some people. Everyone should begin to be very skeptical on what Ryan will say. He will be a crazier troll or he might be starting to have a real sickness in his head. I am quite certain he is only trolling.

And Ryan started to troll again, but as boxing fans, we all know that it is not possible for him to fight a heavyweight simple as that. I remember Ryan says before as well that he will be fighting Manny Pacquaio next and the boxing world was abuzz when he posted that I will tell you that I also feel for it as I thought that it's real. But after this fight and he wins, everyone should know that Ryan is a total troll, he might have his mental issues or he has ADHD which is by now very obvious. So we will see who he will be fighting for it it's officially announced. Pitbull Cruz name might be in the list if Ryan will love to have a belt. But I hear Oscar's interview that they are not interested on Pitbull Cruz for now.

Nah, I find it impossible for Ryan Garcia to fight Anthony Joshua when he moves into the heavy weight. I mean, I understand that he won against Haney but moving to the heavy weight division? That's another beast that me must deal with given that the boxers in that division are naturally weighted individuals who has the power of the earth in one punch.

I mean, sure, Ryan Garcia won and he was very aggressive in portraying himself as the villain in social media. But when you are moving to another weight division and battling the beasts there, that will definitely be a beating that he must prepare to.

There is a reason on why Pacquiao never even bothered to move beyond welterweight. According to him, he was surprised when he survived his fight against Margarito and even saying that he hit the hardest¹, to wit:

"When I beat Margarito, the commentators asked me if I would defend the title, I said no, I didn't care if they left it to him," Pac-Man recalled. "(His punch) is different. It was surprising that I survived that fight. I could take the punches, I could take the blows, but after the fight I could feel something, it was too much for me."

So again going back, if Ryan Garcia moves to the heavy weight division and fights Anthony Joshua, then we should expect results that are most likely obvious..


1 https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/06/06/647efcc9e2704e62848b4627.html

[coin-investor]

It appears that you are the perfect victim for the trolling of King Ry in social media hehehehe. This occurs to people who are always believing in what they read on the internet or in newspapers. They are using you and taking advantage of you my friend. King Ry has tricked many people already, I shake my head that this is still working on some people. Everyone should begin to be very skeptical on what Ryan will say. He will be a crazier troll or he might be starting to have a real sickness in his head. I am quite certain he is only trolling.

We all are a victim of his trolling  I'm just surprised that he easily mastered the art of trolling this will make bettors bet on his next fight, with Ryan's success in trolling I'm sure he will repeat it on his next fight, but it's still good entertainment, we come to watch on all what he says and intentions.

I have this feeling that Ryan doesn't want to build his reputation in winning a lot of titles but more on making fun of everyone and making money at the same sounds more like Jake Paul's antics.

I hope to see both of these two clowns in the ring it's going to be a battle of thrash talks and trolling, but Jake Paul needs to beat Tyson first.

[Natalim]

It appears that you are the perfect victim for the trolling of King Ry in social media hehehehe. This occurs to people who are always believing in what they read on the internet or in newspapers. They are using you and taking advantage of you my friend. King Ry has tricked many people already, I shake my head that this is still working on some people. Everyone should begin to be very skeptical on what Ryan will say. He will be a crazier troll or he might be starting to have a real sickness in his head. I am quite certain he is only trolling.

We all are a victim of his trolling  I'm just surprised that he easily mastered the art of trolling this will make bettors bet on his next fight, with Ryan's success in trolling I'm sure he will repeat it on his next fight, but it's still good entertainment, we come to watch on all what he says and intentions.

I have this feeling that Ryan doesn't want to build his reputation in winning a lot of titles but more on making fun of everyone and making money at the same sounds more like Jake Paul's antics.

Ryan now is more focus on making more money on his fight, he is not anymore undefeated, so there's nothing to protect. He is actually good, and I'm sure more money will come for him as people already know him and now believe that he is one of the best active boxers now. Let's watch out for his next fight, and if ever he will do some trash talk about, we should not be surprise but we should also believe that he will be doing everything to deliver an impressive win.

I hope to see both of these two clowns in the ring it's going to be a battle of thrash talks and trolling, but Jake Paul needs to beat Tyson first.

Jake Paul does not fight champions, he just want to fight leftover boxers, or those greats that are already old, so it's not gonna happen.

[btc_angela]

It appears that you are the perfect victim for the trolling of King Ry in social media hehehehe. This occurs to people who are always believing in what they read on the internet or in newspapers. They are using you and taking advantage of you my friend. King Ry has tricked many people already, I shake my head that this is still working on some people. Everyone should begin to be very skeptical on what Ryan will say. He will be a crazier troll or he might be starting to have a real sickness in his head. I am quite certain he is only trolling.

We all are a victim of his trolling  I'm just surprised that he easily mastered the art of trolling this will make bettors bet on his next fight, with Ryan's success in trolling I'm sure he will repeat it on his next fight, but it's still good entertainment, we come to watch on all what he says and intentions.

I have this feeling that Ryan doesn't want to build his reputation in winning a lot of titles but more on making fun of everyone and making money at the same sounds more like Jake Paul's antics.

I hope to see both of these two clowns in the ring it's going to be a battle of thrash talks and trolling, but Jake Paul needs to beat Tyson first.

Maybe with this win, he could have change that mindset already to become a champion and just go for the money fight, depends on his advisor or whoever Ryan listens, I supposedly believed it could be his parents or even Oscar as this point. But as fans, we really want him to win a belt, I mean winning a belt will surely skyrocketed his stocks just like what Oscar is in his prime.

So better Ryan be fighting a champion next, the name of Pitbull Cruz is surfacing, so it could be good for him as he is the weakest of the 140 lbs champion. Win that belt, bet on him again by millions for the money and then be the A-side in negotiations if other champions what him like Teo Lopez.

[bbc.reporter]

It appears that you are the perfect victim for the trolling of King Ry in social media hehehehe. This occurs to people who are always believing in what they read on the internet or in newspapers. They are using you and taking advantage of you my friend. King Ry has tricked many people already, I shake my head that this is still working on some people. Everyone should begin to be very skeptical on what Ryan will say. He will be a crazier troll or he might be starting to have a real sickness in his head. I am quite certain he is only trolling.

We all are a victim of his trolling  I'm just surprised that he easily mastered the art of trolling this will make bettors bet on his next fight, with Ryan's success in trolling I'm sure he will repeat it on his next fight, but it's still good entertainment, we come to watch on all what he says and intentions.

I have this feeling that Ryan doesn't want to build his reputation in winning a lot of titles but more on making fun of everyone and making money at the same sounds more like Jake Paul's antics.

I hope to see both of these two clowns in the ring it's going to be a battle of thrash talks and trolling, but Jake Paul needs to beat Tyson first.

King Ry's reputation does not depend on championships. His reputation depends on boxing against the best boxers in the world very much similar to the undefeated Devin Haney who was hyped to be in the pound for pound rankings. Haney was also hyped to be the next Floyd Mayweather but Ryan defeated him hehehehehe. It would also be very headshaking to compare King Ry to Jake Paul. King Ry wants real legacy by fighting the best boxers, Jake Paul only likes to scam people very much similar to ICO scammers who sell hype and dump on their own followers.

[FinneysTrueVision]

It is being reported that Ryan Garcia has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. It is really disappointing that this great win is now tarnished and will probably be overturned. There was so many potentially great fights that will now have to wait and may not even materialize.

There was even talk of Ryan being the new face of boxing after he gained millions of new followers after this win. Unfortunately, Ryan can’t manage to get his act together. He is more interested in being an influencer than having a legitimate career.

[Oasisman]

It is being reported that Ryan Garcia has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. It is really disappointing that this great win is now tarnished and will probably be overturned. There was so many potentially great fights that will now have to wait and may not even materialize.

There was even talk of Ryan being the new face of boxing after he gained millions of new followers after this win. Unfortunately, Ryan can’t manage to get his act together. He is more interested in being an influencer than having a legitimate career.

Yeah, this news just came out. I honestly think Ryan may have really used PEDS to gain back that confidence. His career was about to go down hill so he needs to do something and making noise before the fight is among those plans. I don't know what they are thinking, maybe they think they can get away with the tests? Or it could be the other way around? It could be that they are also protecting Haney's legacy?
Well, the only thing we're sure about this issue is that Ryan always has engagement in social media, so I agree that he is somehow spent portion of his focus in creating contents than getting his career a 100% focus to make a better version of himself as he experience fighting against the boxing elites.

[bbc.reporter]

It is being reported that Ryan Garcia has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. It is really disappointing that this great win is now tarnished and will probably be overturned. There was so many potentially great fights that will now have to wait and may not even materialize.

There was even talk of Ryan being the new face of boxing after he gained millions of new followers after this win. Unfortunately, Ryan can’t manage to get his act together. He is more interested in being an influencer than having a legitimate career.

Agreed, this is very head scratching. I only discovered this news when I was looking for news updates and developments on the spot ETF for bitcoin in Australia heheh. However, Ryan Garcia is denying it and he also said in social media that he has never taken a steroid. I reckon if he is being framed, this needs to have an investigation. However, if he is lying, we will witness the crazy Ryan to create a more crazier image on social media. I predict he will declare that the Illuminati is attacking him.



Star boxer Ryan Garcia tested positive for the performance-enhancing substance ostarine the day before and the day of his upset win over Devin Haney last month, per a Voluntary Anti-Doping Association letter sent to all parties Wednesday and obtained by ESPN.

The urine samples were collected prior to the fight, but the results weren't known until later.

Garcia has 10 days to request that his B-sample be tested. Garcia's A-sample also screened positive for 19-norandrosterone, but its presence is unconfirmed until further lab analysis.

"Everybody knows that I don't cheat," Garcia said in a video posted on X. "Never taken a steroid. ... I don't even know where to get steroids. ... I barely take supplements. Big lies, I beat his ass."

Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions said in a statement that it is working with Garcia's team to "determine how this finding came to be."

"Ryan has put out multiple statements denying knowingly using any banned substances -- and we believe him," Golden Boy said in its statement.

Source https://www.espn.com.au/boxing/story/_/id/40066162/boxer-ryan-garcia-tested-positive-banned-substance-ostarine

[OgNasty]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

[coin-investor]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

It is also possible that Haney's loss will turn into a no contest and there's also a possibility that Ryan Garcia will penalized for cheating, this is a serious repercussion is it worth all the risk so he can bring home that $50 million, if this is the case then Ryan has no intention to become a boxing great as he is more focus on money that he is going to take home.

This is Ryan's announcement and he plays victim to his announcement, we'll know in the coming days what will happen to this findings, so the drama is not yet over when we all thought its over.

“I’m here to address this bull-fucking-shit claim that I cheated,” Garcia stated in a video posted through his Instagram account. “Everyone knows that I don’t cheat. What can I say? Why didn’t they come out with this before the fight, if they found it before? Why would they let me step into the ring as a cheater?

“I come out with the victory and then they post this. These are people that are trying to attack me for whatever reason. No weapon against me shall prosper.”

https://www.ringtv.com/669332-ryan-garcia-tests-positive-for-banned-substance-surrounding-win-over-devin-haney

[TravelMug]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

[aioc]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

Ryan Garcia vehemently denied it so it's not yet conclusive here there will be an investigation like this one, the news is everywhere now and the body should release the conclusive reports right away.

I prefer to hold my opinion of whether he is guilty or not, Ryan knows better that there will be drug testing before and after the fight and he knows that whatever he gained from this fight will go to nothing and will have a bad repercussion and will leave a stain on his boxing career as it did on Canelo.

[Hypnosis00]

I read a post in facebook about Ryan saying that he doesn't want a rematch with Haney, as he think it would be dumb to give him a rematch when he convincingly beat Haney. So for sur Ryan is looking for another  big fight and will just forget about Haney, maybe a fight will only happen if there's a belt on the line, but without it, it will only be a waste of time for Ryan who is enjoying his superstar status now.

[btc_angela]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

Ryan Garcia vehemently denied it so it's not yet conclusive here there will be an investigation like this one, the news is everywhere now and the body should release the conclusive reports right away.

I prefer to hold my opinion of whether he is guilty or not, Ryan knows better that there will be drug testing before and after the fight and he knows that whatever he gained from this fight will go to nothing and will have a bad repercussion and will leave a stain on his boxing career as it did on Canelo.

Same here, we should hold our opinion for ourselves for now as there are a lot of failed drug test that was overturn. Even Canelo has been caught twice during his fight with GGG with Clen in his system but they offered a good explanation here.

Not sure what substance though if found on Ryan, but if there is any, it should be diuretics to lose that weight. But obviously he didn't want to and instead pay 1.5 million dollars. So this is a big controversial but we will see the final and official announcement from VADA or from the WBC itself.

[Questat]

I read a post in facebook about Ryan saying that he doesn't want a rematch with Haney, as he think it would be dumb to give him a rematch when he convincingly beat Haney. So for sur Ryan is looking for another  big fight and will just forget about Haney, maybe a fight will only happen if there's a belt on the line, but without it, it will only be a waste of time for Ryan who is enjoying his superstar status now.

Ryan with his antics...

Ryan Garcia Doubts Haney Rematch, Calls Him “Damaged Goods”

Somehow he is right, why would he gave a rematch on a boxer that he dominated in the fight, if it was a close fight then it's justifiable that a rematch will happen, and Ryan has all the right to say no and believe what he wants to believe. If he think Haney is already a damage goods, he should also accept if Tank Davis will think of him the same way.

[bittraffic]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

Ryan Garcia vehemently denied it so it's not yet conclusive here there will be an investigation like this one, the news is everywhere now and the body should release the conclusive reports right away.

I prefer to hold my opinion of whether he is guilty or not, Ryan knows better that there will be drug testing before and after the fight and he knows that whatever he gained from this fight will go to nothing and will have a bad repercussion and will leave a stain on his boxing career as it did on Canelo.

Same here, we should hold our opinion for ourselves for now as there are a lot of failed drug test that was overturn. Even Canelo has been caught twice during his fight with GGG with Clen in his system but they offered a good explanation here.

Not sure what substance though if found on Ryan, but if there is any, it should be diuretics to lose that weight. But obviously he didn't want to and instead pay 1.5 million dollars. So this is a big controversial but we will see the final and official announcement from VADA or from the WBC itself.

It sounds like they are planning to discredit Ryan of t his win if they are going to be successful in proving substance on him during the fight. They are yet not done robbing the kid of the win since the time they stepped into the ring.

The Haneys failed, live with it. Devin is just full of himself after claiming he is the next Floyd, he has not put down his feet on the ground, so over confident thinking Ryan is not doing training.

[OgNasty]

I read a post in facebook about Ryan saying that he doesn't want a rematch with Haney, as he think it would be dumb to give him a rematch when he convincingly beat Haney. So for sur Ryan is looking for another  big fight and will just forget about Haney, maybe a fight will only happen if there's a belt on the line, but without it, it will only be a waste of time for Ryan who is enjoying his superstar status now.

I'm sure he doesn't want another match with Haney.  He had to come in overweight and on steroids to beat him the first time...  The question now is, who is going to want to fight Ryan Garcia now when you know that he's capable of pulling a stunt like this?  If all he cares about is the gambling aspect, then other fighters have to view him as an unfair opponent who won't follow the rules.  I'd imagine other fighters are going to start demanding bigger paydays in order to just get in the ring with him.  Nobody wants to watch someone drink and do social media all day during training only to knock them out because he's bigger and on PEDs.

[Kemarit]

Not defending Ryan, but let's put it this way, a boxer was also found to be positive but he didn't win the fight, Michel Rivera suspended six months, fined 15% of purse for failed drug test.

So there is an argument that even if you uses Peds, it will not help you win a fight as the example above. Ryan doesn't look jack at all with all this Peds accusations though. So this remains to be seen and the timing of the released of this news, when everyone was celebrating Ryan's victory, they try to destroy and discredit it by some entities.

[TravelMug]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

Ryan Garcia vehemently denied it so it's not yet conclusive here there will be an investigation like this one, the news is everywhere now and the body should release the conclusive reports right away.

Although boxers or any athlete will deny anything that relates to them being found using Peds, but I don't see or at least hard to imagine Ryan getting into this kind of stuff just to get any advantage on Haney.

I prefer to hold my opinion of whether he is guilty or not, Ryan knows better that there will be drug testing before and after the fight and he knows that whatever he gained from this fight will go to nothing and will have a bad repercussion and will leave a stain on his boxing career as it did on Canelo.

I agree, we should not just into conclusion or what we call trial by publicity and thinks that Ryan is guilty.

And this is Canelo's message to Ryan about the drug test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK2_Vz842Lk

[coin-investor]

Not defending Ryan, but let's put it this way, a boxer was also found to be positive but he didn't win the fight, Michel Rivera suspended six months, fined 15% of purse for failed drug test.

So there is an argument that even if you uses Peds, it will not help you win a fight as the example above. Ryan doesn't look jack at all with all this Peds accusations though. So this remains to be seen and the timing of the released of this news, when everyone was celebrating Ryan's victory, they try to destroy and discredit it by some entities.

After the break out of the news, Ryan became a hot topic and had so much criticism, that those so-called experts even asked to make the fight a no-contest, these are the same people who predicted that Ryan would be overwhelmed by Haney and beat him.
Ryan denies it

“Why in the world would I volunteer for a drug test if I planned on taking drugs?

“Make it make sense?” Garcia concluded.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-protests-innocence-following-failed-drug-tests--183248

We all thought that this was over after Ryan upset Haney there's too much drama going on in the fight and the drama still continues and it's more controversial now.

[Kemarit]

Not defending Ryan, but let's put it this way, a boxer was also found to be positive but he didn't win the fight, Michel Rivera suspended six months, fined 15% of purse for failed drug test.

So there is an argument that even if you uses Peds, it will not help you win a fight as the example above. Ryan doesn't look jack at all with all this Peds accusations though. So this remains to be seen and the timing of the released of this news, when everyone was celebrating Ryan's victory, they try to destroy and discredit it by some entities.

After the break out of the news, Ryan became a hot topic and had so much criticism, that those so-called experts even asked to make the fight a no-contest, these are the same people who predicted that Ryan would be overwhelmed by Haney and beat him.
Ryan denies it

“Why in the world would I volunteer for a drug test if I planned on taking drugs?

“Make it make sense?” Garcia concluded.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-protests-innocence-following-failed-drug-tests--183248

We all thought that this was over after Ryan upset Haney there's too much drama going on in the fight and the drama still continues and it's more controversial now.

Yes, it really doesn't make any sense, but as you have said, it added another layer of drama and now it's all over the media again and the Haney's are branding Ryan Garcia as cheater. But let's see how the B-sample will turn out to be, if I'm not mistaken, he has to request from VADA to take another sample from him and tested it again.

Ryan deny it though obviously, but let's see, this test has been there for a reason but there are a lot of boxers who tested positive in the beginning, but there's out to be a false positive. This is not the first time that we have heard someone getting "caught" after the fight. But with the magnitude and the hype before and after, it will sure drag the story again and again.

[inthelongrun]

I read a post in facebook about Ryan saying that he doesn't want a rematch with Haney, as he think it would be dumb to give him a rematch when he convincingly beat Haney. So for sur Ryan is looking for another  big fight and will just forget about Haney, maybe a fight will only happen if there's a belt on the line, but without it, it will only be a waste of time for Ryan who is enjoying his superstar status now.

I'm sure he doesn't want another match with Haney.  He had to come in overweight and on steroids to beat him the first time...  The question now is, who is going to want to fight Ryan Garcia now when you know that he's capable of pulling a stunt like this?  If all he cares about is the gambling aspect, then other fighters have to view him as an unfair opponent who won't follow the rules.  I'd imagine other fighters are going to start demanding bigger paydays in order to just get in the ring with him.  Nobody wants to watch someone drink and do social media all day during training only to knock them out because he's bigger and on PEDs.

There's no rematch because in the first place, Ryan already said no more fights at 140. So even if Haney or the other champs will offer Ryan a shot at their belts it might not happen. I can see Ryan is not caring for legacy anymore. He wants to focus on making money and growing his popularity as a social media influencer.

There's still 9 more days for Ryan to prove himself clean or his win over Haney will be overturned into a no contest. If ever Ryan came up dirty, there are still plenty of fighters that are willing to fight him because of money. But the other popular fighters might ask for stricter tests and higher penalty if he comes overweight.

[bbc.reporter]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

Ryan Garcia has been denying this on social media and he has been telling all of his followers that he is being attacked very much similar to how Trump is being attacked. He also shared a video of Devin Haney's brother who was telling his followers that Allah was telling him that Ryan Garcia was using steroids while Devin's brother was in prayer. This is head shaking because who is the real crazy between the 2?

In any case, I wish this will only be a similar to situation to Conor Benn. Boxing does not need this type of scandal. I will trust Ryan's words until he is proven a cheater.

[Viscore]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

Ryan Garcia has been denying this on social media and he has been telling all of his followers that he is being attacked very much similar to how Trump is being attacked. He also shared a video of Devin Haney's brother who was telling his followers that Allah was telling him that Ryan Garcia was using steroids while Devin's brother was in prayer. This is head shaking because who is the real crazy between the 2?

In any case, I wish this will only be a similar to situation to Conor Benn. Boxing does not need this type of scandal. I will trust Ryan's words until he is proven a cheater.

It will be a big discredit to Ryan if he is proven but I believe this one is just a fake news, Haney's camp just could not accept that the crazy look Ryan beat their boy who is aiming to be a hall of famer. They have to proved that, and Ryan could file a case against them if they are really spreading this lies just to destroy the reputation of Ryan and will null his win.

[Kemarit]

I speculated that it's either Ryan,

a. Knows that he is taking PEDS
b. Doesn't know that he is taking PEDS
c. Doesn't know, but he did take contaminated supplements that's why he tested positive

And we all know that Ryan is good for business in boxing and this could flew under the radar and be quiet about it. But there could be someone that break this news to someone that's why it become so big right now.

[Wapfika]

I speculated that it's either Ryan,

a. Knows that he is taking PEDS
b. Doesn't know that he is taking PEDS
c. Doesn't know, but he did take contaminated supplements that's why he tested positive

And we all know that Ryan is good for business in boxing and this could flew under the radar and be quiet about it. But there could be someone that break this news to someone that's why it become so big right now.

I’m pretty sure that he will notice that there’s something on his drink once he intake it since its effect is very noticeable once you already ingested this kind of drug.

I just read this news recently on social media but I’m not sure the authenticity of this report since the source is not that reliable also what I don’t understand if this news is true on why the heck the coaching staff can manage to smuggle this kind of drug on the middle of the fight, do boxing organizer doesn’t check luggage of each camp. 

[coin-investor]

I speculated that it's either Ryan,

a. Knows that he is taking PEDS
b. Doesn't know that he is taking PEDS
c. Doesn't know, but he did take contaminated supplements that's why he tested positive

And we all know that Ryan is good for business in boxing and this could flew under the radar and be quiet about it. But there could be someone that break this news to someone that's why it become so big right now.

My bet is

c. Doesn't know, but he did take contaminated supplements that's why he tested positive

We have seen Ryan smoking, and drinking in so many videos, and athletes are known to take supplements or foods that turn out with the amount of contaminated chemicals, there's a possibility that the fight could turn to a no contest so Haney will still have an unblemished record but with a wounded ego.

It may somewhat affect Ryan's reputation but he is still going to attract a lot of attention he is not the only superstar who has this kind of issue and this could happen to athletes without them knowing it.

Ryan must try to clear his name if he thinks he is innocent because if not every fight will cast suspicion if he is fighting clean, and every opponent he will face will bring this out.

[qwertyup23]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

Ryan Garcia has been denying this on social media and he has been telling all of his followers that he is being attacked very much similar to how Trump is being attacked. He also shared a video of Devin Haney's brother who was telling his followers that Allah was telling him that Ryan Garcia was using steroids while Devin's brother was in prayer. This is head shaking because who is the real crazy between the 2?

In any case, I wish this will only be a similar to situation to Conor Benn. Boxing does not need this type of scandal. I will trust Ryan's words until he is proven a cheater.

I do not know much with drugs but I believe that if there are certain indicators that tell that a person has been using an illegal substance before and after a fight, what are the consequences of his actions? I would very much like to believe that there must be steps taken because if ostarine was indeed found in his system, then the news should have been brought up BEFORE the fight.

I pretty much guess that it may be a form of propaganda especially on how Haney phrased his statement regarding this discovery like he was blaming it completely on those drugs that Ryan tested positive on for his lost.

Though that may be the case, I just hope that there would be an official statement from the WBF regarding this issue especially that it is beginning to blow out of proportion. While others may think that this may discredit Ryan's win against Haney, again, no amount of drugs can remedy for the failure of the boxer to defend himself twice for being knocked out.

[bbc.reporter]

Well, it looks like Garcia had one hell of a plan. Make everyone think you’re crazy and get the odds stacked way against you. Then bet millions of dollars on yourself to get a huge payday if you win. Then finally use steroids and don’t make weight to give yourself a massive strength advantage. Dude is playing chess, but this is pretty disgraceful. Still, I think he took home over 50 million…

We will see, although the news came from a reliable source, still we need to hear it official from the governing body on whether Ryan has been found a banned substance in his system. And after that Ryan can refute it or not and fight it out with regards to the charges. Like in this case,

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/wbc-clears-conor-benn-positive-tests-due-excessive-egg-consumption

The WBC found that: (1) there was no conclusive evidence that Mr. Benn engaged in intentional or knowing ingestion of Clomiphene; (2) there were no failures in the procedures related to sample collection, sample analysis, or violations of Mr. Benn’s B Sample rights that would justify questioning or invalidating the Adverse Finding; and (3) Mr. Benn’s documented and highly-elevated consumption of eggs during the times relevant to the sample collection, raised a reasonable explanation for the Adverse Finding."

Ryan Garcia has been denying this on social media and he has been telling all of his followers that he is being attacked very much similar to how Trump is being attacked. He also shared a video of Devin Haney's brother who was telling his followers that Allah was telling him that Ryan Garcia was using steroids while Devin's brother was in prayer. This is head shaking because who is the real crazy between the 2?

In any case, I wish this will only be a similar to situation to Conor Benn. Boxing does not need this type of scandal. I will trust Ryan's words until he is proven a cheater.

It will be a big discredit to Ryan if he is proven but I believe this one is just a fake news, Haney's camp just could not accept that the crazy look Ryan beat their boy who is aiming to be a hall of famer. They have to proved that, and Ryan could file a case against them if they are really spreading this lies just to destroy the reputation of Ryan and will null his win.

I have thought of a very head shaking conspiracy theory and if this is true this might be a very genius psychological campaign created by King Ry's team. What if this steroids scandal was also created by Ryan to keep everyone talking about him? What if sample A was intentionally with steroids and sample B is very clean?

If proven innocent after the release of sample B's results, everyone will begin talking about him for many weeks again. King Ry might be trying to keep the attention on him until December heheheheheheheee.

[TopTort777]

Not defending Ryan, but let's put it this way, a boxer was also found to be positive but he didn't win the fight, Michel Rivera suspended six months, fined 15% of purse for failed drug test.

So there is an argument that even if you uses Peds, it will not help you win a fight as the example above. Ryan doesn't look jack at all with all this Peds accusations though. So this remains to be seen and the timing of the released of this news, when everyone was celebrating Ryan's victory, they try to destroy and discredit it by some entities.

I speculated that it's either Ryan,

a. Knows that he is taking PEDS
b. Doesn't know that he is taking PEDS
c. Doesn't know, but he did take contaminated supplements that's why he tested positive

And we all know that Ryan is good for business in boxing and this could flew under the radar and be quiet about it. But there could be someone that break this news to someone that's why it become so big right now.

You know how this all will end? Does not matter if he was clean or not. Does not matter if he failed his weight. Does not matter if he won belts or not. Does not matter if he drink or smoke. Does not matter if he cheated or won unfair with judges help. All that is matters, that the world will remember him beating Haney. History does not remember losers. The fight has already happened, people saw his hand being raised. That is it. Nobody cares what is after the fight. What matters is what was during the fight.

[Yaunfitda]

I speculated that it's either Ryan,

a. Knows that he is taking PEDS
b. Doesn't know that he is taking PEDS
c. Doesn't know, but he did take contaminated supplements that's why he tested positive

And we all know that Ryan is good for business in boxing and this could flew under the radar and be quiet about it. But there could be someone that break this news to someone that's why it become so big right now.

I’m pretty sure that he will notice that there’s something on his drink once he intake it since its effect is very noticeable once you already ingested this kind of drug.

I just read this news recently on social media but I’m not sure the authenticity of this report since the source is not that reliable also what I don’t understand if this news is true on why the heck the coaching staff can manage to smuggle this kind of drug on the middle of the fight, do boxing organizer doesn’t check luggage of each camp. 

No, you don't know if what you drink are contaminated or now, let's say your drink Protein powder that you bought in the market, maybe it's been been tainted along the way or you ingest food that has been contaminated, like what happens to Canelo during the GGG fight wherein he consume beef from Mexico in which they feed them with steroid to grow big. So you wouldn't notice it until you are being tested and blood taken from you and urine sample.

Canelo Alvarez said contaminated meat led to his positive test for clenbuterol ahead of his May fight with Gennady Golovkin.

Golden Boy Promotions said in a statement (via Boxing Scene) that Alvarez is moving his training camp from Mexico to the United States, and Alvarez said he'd be willing to take additional drug tests.

"I am an athlete who respects the sport and this surprises me and bothers me because it had never happened to me," he said. "I will submit to all the tests that require me to clarify this embarrassing situation and I trust that at the end the truth will prevail."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2762807-canelo-alvarez-blames-positive-ped-test-on-consuming-contaminated-meat

[blckhawk]

No, you don't know if what you drink are contaminated or now, let's say your drink Protein powder that you bought in the market, maybe it's been been tainted along the way or you ingest food that has been contaminated, like what happens to Canelo during the GGG fight wherein he consume beef from Mexico in which they feed them with steroid to grow big. So you wouldn't notice it until you are being tested and blood taken from you and urine sample.

With how corrupt the boxing federation is, I think that it's still going to be Canelo's fault that he's tested positive for the PEDs, they operate on guilty until proven innocent unless you've got a really big money and influential backer on the board of the boxing federation so no matter how much we want to believe that it's not his fault, the committee assigned will still be the one that's going to be doing the final decision. It's a good measure in my opinion even though it's filled with corruption, I think that not being ignorant or being aware of what you're taking in before the fight should be a prerequisite or should be a common sense because it can be a way for your opponent to sabotage you too.

[btc_angela]

No, you don't know if what you drink are contaminated or now, let's say your drink Protein powder that you bought in the market, maybe it's been been tainted along the way or you ingest food that has been contaminated, like what happens to Canelo during the GGG fight wherein he consume beef from Mexico in which they feed them with steroid to grow big. So you wouldn't notice it until you are being tested and blood taken from you and urine sample.

With how corrupt the boxing federation is, I think that it's still going to be Canelo's fault that he's tested positive for the PEDs, they operate on guilty until proven innocent unless you've got a really big money and influential backer on the board of the boxing federation so no matter how much we want to believe that it's not his fault, the committee assigned will still be the one that's going to be doing the final decision. It's a good measure in my opinion even though it's filled with corruption, I think that not being ignorant or being aware of what you're taking in before the fight should be a prerequisite or should be a common sense because it can be a way for your opponent to sabotage you too.

And I think this is what Gervonta Davis or some of his people in his camp when Bernard Hopkins tough him, because they thought that Bernard is trying to sabotage Tank by rubbing some kind of ointment on him with steroids.

Not sure though if this is possible that someone can tainted your blood by having steroids on his hands and have contacted you. But here is totally different, as what others have speculated, he might have consume tainted food or liquid and put it on his system before the fight.

“This Is Why Bernard Touch Him”: Gervonta Davis Trainer Accuses Boxing Legend Bernard Hopkins of Rubbing “Testosterone Cream” on ‘Tank’.

[Kemarit]

Not defending Ryan, but let's put it this way, a boxer was also found to be positive but he didn't win the fight, Michel Rivera suspended six months, fined 15% of purse for failed drug test.

So there is an argument that even if you uses Peds, it will not help you win a fight as the example above. Ryan doesn't look jack at all with all this Peds accusations though. So this remains to be seen and the timing of the released of this news, when everyone was celebrating Ryan's victory, they try to destroy and discredit it by some entities.

I speculated that it's either Ryan,

a. Knows that he is taking PEDS
b. Doesn't know that he is taking PEDS
c. Doesn't know, but he did take contaminated supplements that's why he tested positive

And we all know that Ryan is good for business in boxing and this could flew under the radar and be quiet about it. But there could be someone that break this news to someone that's why it become so big right now.

You know how this all will end? Does not matter if he was clean or not. Does not matter if he failed his weight. Does not matter if he won belts or not. Does not matter if he drink or smoke. Does not matter if he cheated or won unfair with judges help. All that is matters, that the world will remember him beating Haney. History does not remember losers. The fight has already happened, people saw his hand being raised. That is it. Nobody cares what is after the fight. What matters is what was during the fight.

Yes, you're right,, we've seen Ryan already demolished Haney and the best that they can do is to change it to no contest. But what matters is the future fight of Garcia, for sure his next opponent will used this issues against him or will press for more intricate drug testing surprise visit more than what it should or even his weight could be a big question.

But as others posted, even the cash cow has once or twice caught with supposedly Clen on his system but it was attributed to the "cows" from his Mexico. So let's see, there are pro boxers riding on this issues and attacking Ryan in public but it seems the news has died down a little.

[TopTort777]

That is modern sport. Specially boxing that is considered as one of corrupted sports ever. I have seen many examples when athletes won medals during Olympic games, then they get caught with doping after. And in the end they keep medals (never return them), at home they return as heroes, and people only remember their victories. Nobody cares what happens after. Now the world knows that Instagram boy beat papa's prodigy. How he did it, nobody cares. Most people will believe only to knockdowns in fight highlights. And in addition, if they have a rematch, emotionally Haney will be loosing position.

[TravelMug]

That is modern sport. Specially boxing that is considered as one of corrupted sports ever. I have seen many examples when athletes won medals during Olympic games, then they get caught with doping after. And in the end they keep medals (never return them), at home they return as heroes, and people only remember their victories. Nobody cares what happens after. Now the world knows that Instagram boy beat papa's prodigy. How he did it, nobody cares. Most people will believe only to knockdowns in fight highlights. And in addition, if they have a rematch, emotionally Haney will be loosing position.

Haney could be resting this year as what Bill says, and regardless if he has taken steroids or not, doesn't matter as you have said, Haney has been dominated and it will not change anything in the rematch. And Haney is the heavier boxer in fight night but Ryan has the power, no rehydration clause although went over weight, but still 3 pounds is not enough because as reported, Haney chooses to be the heavier. And I think this should be the weight class of Ryan Garcia though, he is borderline 147 lbs so I wouldn't be surprised that he will fight in this division next with some tune up fight before taking up the champions.

[Finestream]

That is modern sport. Specially boxing that is considered as one of corrupted sports ever. I have seen many examples when athletes won medals during Olympic games, then they get caught with doping after. And in the end they keep medals (never return them), at home they return as heroes, and people only remember their victories. Nobody cares what happens after. Now the world knows that Instagram boy beat papa's prodigy. How he did it, nobody cares. Most people will believe only to knockdowns in fight highlights. And in addition, if they have a rematch, emotionally Haney will be loosing position.

Haney could be resting this year as what Bill says, and regardless if he has taken steroids or not, doesn't matter as you have said, Haney has been dominated and it will not change anything in the rematch. And Haney is the heavier boxer in fight night but Ryan has the power, no rehydration clause although went over weight, but still 3 pounds is not enough because as reported, Haney chooses to be the heavier. And I think this should be the weight class of Ryan Garcia though, he is borderline 147 lbs so I wouldn't be surprised that he will fight in this division next with some tune up fight before taking up the champions.

It will be insulting on his part to be confirm tha the used steriod only to loss to Ryan. I guess Haney is not really a hall of famer, he found his kyptonite in Ryan and there's no way the rematch will happen, unless there's a huge money waiting that Ryan will ensure he'll get a bigger slice of the pie. Ryan had already told us that he won't give Haney a rematch as it was pretty obvious how he domination him, in short, Ryan does not find Haney deserving of the rematch.

[Baofeng]

That is modern sport. Specially boxing that is considered as one of corrupted sports ever. I have seen many examples when athletes won medals during Olympic games, then they get caught with doping after. And in the end they keep medals (never return them), at home they return as heroes, and people only remember their victories. Nobody cares what happens after. Now the world knows that Instagram boy beat papa's prodigy. How he did it, nobody cares. Most people will believe only to knockdowns in fight highlights. And in addition, if they have a rematch, emotionally Haney will be loosing position.

Haney could be resting this year as what Bill says, and regardless if he has taken steroids or not, doesn't matter as you have said, Haney has been dominated and it will not change anything in the rematch. And Haney is the heavier boxer in fight night but Ryan has the power, no rehydration clause although went over weight, but still 3 pounds is not enough because as reported, Haney chooses to be the heavier. And I think this should be the weight class of Ryan Garcia though, he is borderline 147 lbs so I wouldn't be surprised that he will fight in this division next with some tune up fight before taking up the champions.

It will be insulting on his part to be confirm tha the used steriod only to loss to Ryan. I guess Haney is not really a hall of famer, he found his kyptonite in Ryan and there's no way the rematch will happen, unless there's a huge money waiting that Ryan will ensure he'll get a bigger slice of the pie. Ryan had already told us that he won't give Haney a rematch as it was pretty obvious how he domination him, in short, Ryan does not find Haney deserving of the rematch.

Or careful match making in the part of this father, against a old Linares, he was shook already and had wobbly legs in that fight. And obviously, that is the sign that Haney doesn't have a good chin to begin with and then he didn't face the best of 135 lbs like Tank Davis or Shakur Stevenson and then he moved up to 140 lbs and faces the old and fading Regis Prograis.

And even at the Loma fight, some of us thinks that he lost that fight and he was again very lucky that the judges favor him. But in this fight, yeah, his kryptonite is Ryan's power and lightning speed and so his aura of invincibility has been shattered and it could be the same result in game 2 if he chooses to run that course.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I have thought of a very head shaking conspiracy theory and if this is true this might be a very genius psychological campaign created by King Ry's team. What if this steroids scandal was also created by Ryan to keep everyone talking about him? What if sample A was intentionally with steroids and sample B is very clean?

If proven innocent after the release of sample B's results, everyone will begin talking about him for many weeks again. King Ry might be trying to keep the attention on him until December heheheheheheheee.

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

[bittraffic]

I have thought of a very head shaking conspiracy theory and if this is true this might be a very genius psychological campaign created by King Ry's team. What if this steroids scandal was also created by Ryan to keep everyone talking about him? What if sample A was intentionally with steroids and sample B is very clean?

If proven innocent after the release of sample B's results, everyone will begin talking about him for many weeks again. King Ry might be trying to keep the attention on him until December heheheheheheheee.

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Ryan winning the fight in that manner, people will talk about it forever. He wouldn't need to create another psychological campaign that made the NYSAC exec resign because of this scandalous accusation they made against Ryan. Haney is likely trying to get Ryan still of all the shit he has been thru the guy can't accept he lost against someone he thought to be the worse fighter.  

[inthelongrun]

I have thought of a very head shaking conspiracy theory and if this is true this might be a very genius psychological campaign created by King Ry's team. What if this steroids scandal was also created by Ryan to keep everyone talking about him? What if sample A was intentionally with steroids and sample B is very clean?

If proven innocent after the release of sample B's results, everyone will begin talking about him for many weeks again. King Ry might be trying to keep the attention on him until December heheheheheheheee.

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Ryan winning the fight in that manner, people will talk about it forever. He wouldn't need to create another psychological campaign that made the NYSAC exec resign because of this scandalous accusation they made against Ryan. Haney is likely trying to get Ryan still of all the shit he has been thru the guy can't accept he lost against someone he thought to be the worse fighter.  

I think there's less than a week before Ryan's final judgement if he can prove himself clean or not. I saw some posts from legit sources that Ryan is already cleared but there are also posts saying he is cleared but only from one substance while still positive from another substance. But at least it is obvious that Ryan is clearing his name here. I want Ryan to get cleared even if he sounds deluded at the moment.

Ryan won't stop talking and will challenge any fighters for clout. He might bluff or not. He is clearly capitalizing his fame and trend and it is working especially that he just won over Haney.

[pinggoki]

Ryan winning the fight in that manner, people will talk about it forever. He wouldn't need to create another psychological campaign that made the NYSAC exec resign because of this scandalous accusation they made against Ryan. Haney is likely trying to get Ryan still of all the shit he has been thru the guy can't accept he lost against someone he thought to be the worse fighter.  

It's not as fantastic of a match so I wouldn't say forever but they're definitely going to talk about it in ages, definitely something and I think that Ryan deserves the win, Haney sucked so bad in that match and I don't think that he's even on par with Garcia. Man, that was an intense match and the highlights in the match was so good, the issue behind the match will eventually fizzle out though.

[Finestream]

Ryan winning the fight in that manner, people will talk about it forever. He wouldn't need to create another psychological campaign that made the NYSAC exec resign because of this scandalous accusation they made against Ryan. Haney is likely trying to get Ryan still of all the shit he has been thru the guy can't accept he lost against someone he thought to be the worse fighter.  

It's not as fantastic of a match so I wouldn't say forever but they're definitely going to talk about it in ages, definitely something and I think that Ryan deserves the win, Haney sucked so bad in that match and I don't think that he's even on par with Garcia. Man, that was an intense match and the highlights in the match was so good, the issue behind the match will eventually fizzle out though.

That's normal in boxing, but if Haney wants to regain himself even without a rematch with Ryan, he should continue to fight and move up and win championships. That fight was a non title fight but people sees how good Ryan in that fight, and of course, Haney has to make sure that he'll bounce back big and should start moving on. I know it might give him a little mental problem because he was undefeated prior to that fight, but that's normal in boxing, he has to accept the reality that he isn't undefeated anymore but he is not done yet.

[Maus0728]

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Can't Haney just let it go though? I feel like he's being a sore loser trying to cling to hope that Garcia is really using PED to fight him, can't he just accept the curse of Prime? I'm just kidding. But in all seriousness though, I feel like this investigation won't lead to nowhere, the drugs if there's really something in the system, would've been out because it's been so long. For me, the only way to resolve this is a rematch, but this one there should be an independent committee overseeing both boxers, that way there's no possiblity of cheating or PED.

[Taskford]

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Can't Haney just let it go though? I feel like he's being a sore loser trying to cling to hope that Garcia is really using PED to fight him, can't he just accept the curse of Prime? I'm just kidding. But in all seriousness though, I feel like this investigation won't lead to nowhere, the drugs if there's really something in the system, would've been out because it's been so long. For me, the only way to resolve this is a rematch, but this one there should be an independent committee overseeing both boxers, that way there's no possiblity of cheating or PED.

Nope he's trying to regain back his record no matter what happen. He doesn't care about what people say since what's more important for him is to have a reason on why he got defeated by Ryan Garcia on that match. People already know how he's badly beaten by Garcia and almost he can't do anything on that match. Its big shame he's been knock down for so many times that's why he's trying to regain his self for that reason so he can came clean. Rematch is really the best solution on this since it can eliminate the doubts of people who's doubting about the result. But I guess Haney don't want this to happen since he's already afraid to Garcia since he know he has no match if they fight for second time again.

[TravelMug]

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Can't Haney just let it go though? I feel like he's being a sore loser trying to cling to hope that Garcia is really using PED to fight him, can't he just accept the curse of Prime? I'm just kidding. But in all seriousness though, I feel like this investigation won't lead to nowhere, the drugs if there's really something in the system, would've been out because it's been so long. For me, the only way to resolve this is a rematch, but this one there should be an independent committee overseeing both boxers, that way there's no possiblity of cheating or PED.

I think he just want to really damage Ryan Garcia's reputation here and turn the fight into no contest and and his status of undefeated might go back because it's very important for him to have 0 loses so far. We will just have to wait and see, there are full of drama now but it looks like Garcia is very confident about himself and could be exonerated as not guilty with the tainted samples that he had. And with that confidence, Ryan is still hyping himself and mentioning names like Errol Spence as his next opponent and having a storyline of his now coach Derrick James getting even or punish Spence for not paying him fair during their time as trainer/boxer.

[arwin100]

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Can't Haney just let it go though? I feel like he's being a sore loser trying to cling to hope that Garcia is really using PED to fight him, can't he just accept the curse of Prime? I'm just kidding. But in all seriousness though, I feel like this investigation won't lead to nowhere, the drugs if there's really something in the system, would've been out because it's been so long. For me, the only way to resolve this is a rematch, but this one there should be an independent committee overseeing both boxers, that way there's no possiblity of cheating or PED.

I think he just want to really damage Ryan Garcia's reputation here and turn the fight into no contest and and his status of undefeated might go back because it's very important for him to have 0 loses so far. We will just have to wait and see, there are full of drama now but it looks like Garcia is very confident about himself and could be exonerated as not guilty with the tainted samples that he had. And with that confidence, Ryan is still hyping himself and mentioning names like Errol Spence as his next opponent and having a storyline of his now coach Derrick James getting even or punish Spence for not paying him fair during their time as trainer/boxer.

He just want to make Garcia look bad in the eyes of boxing fans around the world and they want the fans to think about that the guy cheat on their match that's why he won. But a lot of people really know the result of the fight so whatever Haney's camp did just to throw out the achievement gotten by Garcia for sure a lot of people who watch that match will never forget that Ryan Garcia win and beaten Haney so bad in that fight.

So maybe if they succeed on their contest due to what they say substance use of Garcia they can't still erase the fact that Haney is no match on Garcia at that time and people will not be happy on the result since Haney is a total loser on that match.

[Dave1]

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Can't Haney just let it go though? I feel like he's being a sore loser trying to cling to hope that Garcia is really using PED to fight him, can't he just accept the curse of Prime? I'm just kidding. But in all seriousness though, I feel like this investigation won't lead to nowhere, the drugs if there's really something in the system, would've been out because it's been so long. For me, the only way to resolve this is a rematch, but this one there should be an independent committee overseeing both boxers, that way there's no possiblity of cheating or PED.

I think he just want to really damage Ryan Garcia's reputation here and turn the fight into no contest and and his status of undefeated might go back because it's very important for him to have 0 loses so far. We will just have to wait and see, there are full of drama now but it looks like Garcia is very confident about himself and could be exonerated as not guilty with the tainted samples that he had. And with that confidence, Ryan is still hyping himself and mentioning names like Errol Spence as his next opponent and having a storyline of his now coach Derrick James getting even or punish Spence for not paying him fair during their time as trainer/boxer.

He just want to make Garcia look bad in the eyes of boxing fans around the world and they want the fans to think about that the guy cheat on their match that's why he won. But a lot of people really know the result of the fight so whatever Haney's camp did just to throw out the achievement gotten by Garcia for sure a lot of people who watch that match will never forget that Ryan Garcia win and beaten Haney so bad in that fight.

So maybe if they succeed on their contest due to what they say substance use of Garcia they can't still erase the fact that Haney is no match on Garcia at that time and people will not be happy on the result since Haney is a total loser on that match.

And there are reports that Garcia 1 sample turns out to be negative though. So by now there are conflicting reports and don't know if that is fake news or someone really wanted to sabotage Ryan Garcia's reputation with all this allegations.

And by now yeah, he is calling Spence as per this official X account and then we have the storyboard that involved James and Ryan is going to avenge his coach now as there are now a legal battle between Derrick James vs Errol Spence Jr in terms of money that Spence supposedly own James.

[coin-investor]

And there are reports that Garcia 1 sample turns out to be negative though. So by now there are conflicting reports and don't know if that is fake news or someone really wanted to sabotage Ryan Garcia's reputation with all this allegations.

The drama on Ryan will continue because Ryan has so many haters I believe there are many who likes to spread fakes news to take out Ryan's winning and because Ryan plans to sue them they have to come out with the real reports, if Ryan really believes that he is clean then he has to fight for that, his credibility is at stakes here

And by now yeah, he is calling Spence as per this official X account and then we have the storyboard that involved James and Ryan is going to avenge his coach now as there are now a legal battle between Derrick James vs Errol Spence Jr in terms of money that Spence supposedly own James.

If this materialized this will create huge drama much bigger than the Haney drama because of what happened between James and Spence and their argument will focus on this, I think Ryan is taking more than what he can take Spence is still dangerous and hungry because of his lost to Crawford he is one tough customer for Ryan.

[cabron]

And there are reports that Garcia 1 sample turns out to be negative though. So by now there are conflicting reports and don't know if that is fake news or someone really wanted to sabotage Ryan Garcia's reputation with all this allegations.

The drama on Ryan will continue because Ryan has so many haters I believe there are many who likes to spread fakes news to take out Ryan's winning and because Ryan plans to sue them they have to come out with the real reports, if Ryan really believes that he is clean then he has to fight for that, his credibility is at stakes here

And by now yeah, he is calling Spence as per this official X account and then we have the storyboard that involved James and Ryan is going to avenge his coach now as there are now a legal battle between Derrick James vs Errol Spence Jr in terms of money that Spence supposedly own James.

If this materialized this will create huge drama much bigger than the Haney drama because of what happened between James and Spence and their argument will focus on this, I think Ryan is taking more than what he can take Spence is still dangerous and hungry because of his lost to Crawford he is one tough customer for Ryan.

Ryan is taking a risk against Spence. This could just be to stray the attention of his issue about the substance because if the report is positive, his victory could be voided. Damn! It says NO CONTEST. They are really going to take that winning record away from Ryan. Ryan seriously made a lot of enemies from high places who could make things happen.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan will not be able to fight because the organization is conspiring against him. From the referee WBC and even the VADA are out to discredit Ryan. This is more than just the drama.

In short, Garcia tested positive for Ostarine on two occasions and, for that, he will be called before the New York Athletic Commission unless the B samples prove different to the A samples. It is possible that Garcia’s points victory will instead become a No Contest on the boxers’ records.

[OgNasty]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan will not be able to fight because the organization is conspiring against him. From the referee WBC and even the VADA are out to discredit Ryan. This is more than just the drama.

In short, Garcia tested positive for Ostarine on two occasions and, for that, he will be called before the New York Athletic Commission unless the B samples prove different to the A samples. It is possible that Garcia’s points victory will instead become a No Contest on the boxers’ records.

I don't think anyone is conspiring against Ryan Garcia.  I think he was embarrassed after his last loss and given his desire to be a big presence on social media had to do what he had to do in order to get the win.  This included not making weight and taking steroids.  I highly doubt his B samples will provide a different testing result than his A samples.  I also think what he did betting on himself and cheating (not making weight and testing positive for steroids) should honestly be enough to ban him from the sport, at least for a couple years.  That, or they should just let fighters take whatever they want and become monsters.

[btc_angela]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan will not be able to fight because the organization is conspiring against him. From the referee WBC and even the VADA are out to discredit Ryan. This is more than just the drama.

In short, Garcia tested positive for Ostarine on two occasions and, for that, he will be called before the New York Athletic Commission unless the B samples prove different to the A samples. It is possible that Garcia’s points victory will instead become a No Contest on the boxers’ records.

I don't think anyone is conspiring against Ryan Garcia.  I think he was embarrassed after his last loss and given his desire to be a big presence on social media had to do what he had to do in order to get the win.  This included not making weight and taking steroids.  I highly doubt his B samples will provide a different testing result than his A samples.  I also think what he did betting on himself and cheating (not making weight and testing positive for steroids) should honestly be enough to ban him from the sport, at least for a couple years.  That, or they should just let fighters take whatever they want and become monsters.

Nah, I don't think that he will ban for life because of this, if he is caught, then mostly some severe punishment or if he get away with it then obviously he can fight again in the young. And as how corrupt boxing is, who knows, maybe after he shows to the commission and explain everything then he will be cleared.

It's really the talent that one can bring in the ring and I don't think that steroids can help them in their performance in the ring, some athletes used some form though like diuretics to help lose those extra pounds, but it doesn't mean that they will become monsters in the ring.

[bbc.reporter]

I have thought of a very head shaking conspiracy theory and if this is true this might be a very genius psychological campaign created by King Ry's team. What if this steroids scandal was also created by Ryan to keep everyone talking about him? What if sample A was intentionally with steroids and sample B is very clean?

If proven innocent after the release of sample B's results, everyone will begin talking about him for many weeks again. King Ry might be trying to keep the attention on him until December heheheheheheheee.

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Thank you for the correction. I have always assumed that they come from 2 different samples taken on different say in case if sample A is contaminated, sample B will be a very different sample that will not have the contamination of sample A hehe.

In any case, sample B will be will be opened for analysis on May 22. I reckon the verdict will be made on May 23?



Star boxer Ryan Garcia requested Monday that his B-sample be analyzed, according to a letter obtained by ESPN, connected to adverse findings in his A-sample for the performance-enhancing drug Ostarine the day before and the day of his upset win over Devin Haney last month.

His attorney, Darin Chavez, told ESPN Tuesday that the B-sample will be opened and analyzed on May 22. Chavez will witness the examination.

Read in full https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/ryan-garcia-requests-sample-tested-after-failed-drug/

[TravelMug]

^^ And so everyone is going to watch this unfold and see what will be the result of his sample B. And it's just a matter of Ryan being found positive of using a supposedly performance enhancing drug or not. And if yes, what will be the complications here, is Ryan going to be suspended or not? And if he is cleared, then for sure there will be somewhat vindication and his stock are going to multiple again and him going on social media and attacking at everyone that accuses him and making negative comments about his drug testing or taking peds to win against Haney.

[Kemarit]

I have thought of a very head shaking conspiracy theory and if this is true this might be a very genius psychological campaign created by King Ry's team. What if this steroids scandal was also created by Ryan to keep everyone talking about him? What if sample A was intentionally with steroids and sample B is very clean?

If proven innocent after the release of sample B's results, everyone will begin talking about him for many weeks again. King Ry might be trying to keep the attention on him until December heheheheheheheee.

Both A and B samples come from one container which is divided by an official conducting the testing. It’s practically impossible for one sample to be clean and another one dirty. This is why Ryan is trying to get ahead of this by claiming that the failed test is due to contaminated supplements. I don’t know whether he will be exonerated but he is already busy trying to hype up a fight with Errol Spence.

Yes, let's talk about that, Errol barking on him I mean WTF? unless Errol really wanted a piece of Ryan now as he is the cash cow and obviously Errol wanted big fights after that devastating lost to Spence. And for sure Ryan wanted all the attention that he is getting right?

And regardless what will be the outcome, this guys is a great for boxing, perhaps if he is cleared then he might really be looking for a Errol Spence fight or someone that can give him big purse.

[bisdak40]

Yes, let's talk about that, Errol barking on him I mean WTF? unless Errol really wanted a piece of Ryan now as he is the cash cow and obviously Errol wanted big fights after that devastating lost to Spence. And for sure Ryan wanted all the attention that he is getting right?

And regardless what will be the outcome, this guys is a great for boxing, perhaps if he is cleared then he might really be looking for a Errol Spence fight or someone that can give him big purse.

Ryan Garcia vs Errol Spence will depend on the outcome of Ryan's B sample because if found positive that he is taking PEDs then most likely some sanctions will be given to him thus jeopardizing this proposed fight. But if Ryan comes clean then I think Garcia vs Spence will be big for both as like you said, Spence needs a big fight after that devastating loss to Crawford.

[Kemarit]

Yes, let's talk about that, Errol barking on him I mean WTF? unless Errol really wanted a piece of Ryan now as he is the cash cow and obviously Errol wanted big fights after that devastating lost to Spence. And for sure Ryan wanted all the attention that he is getting right?

And regardless what will be the outcome, this guys is a great for boxing, perhaps if he is cleared then he might really be looking for a Errol Spence fight or someone that can give him big purse.

Ryan Garcia vs Errol Spence will depend on the outcome of Ryan's B sample because if found positive that he is taking PEDs then most likely some sanctions will be given to him thus jeopardizing this proposed fight. But if Ryan comes clean then I think Garcia vs Spence will be big for both as like you said, Spence needs a big fight after that devastating loss to Crawford.

The result of the B sample from Ryan will be coming out in 2 days. I can't fight the link though, but I have seen and heard him saying that he doesn't give a f**k about what the result are. And then blurted out that he will put a boxing league of his own. Not sure if he is serious or what, but that is going to be a crazy idea again coming from Garcia.

Bill Haney then responded that what Ryan wanted is to established a boxing organization that will allow the used of Peds, LOL.

We will see then, it seems that Ryan is anticipating that his B sample will also be positive.

[target]

Yes, let's talk about that, Errol barking on him I mean WTF? unless Errol really wanted a piece of Ryan now as he is the cash cow and obviously Errol wanted big fights after that devastating lost to Spence. And for sure Ryan wanted all the attention that he is getting right?

And regardless what will be the outcome, this guys is a great for boxing, perhaps if he is cleared then he might really be looking for a Errol Spence fight or someone that can give him big purse.

Ryan Garcia vs Errol Spence will depend on the outcome of Ryan's B sample because if found positive that he is taking PEDs then most likely some sanctions will be given to him thus jeopardizing this proposed fight. But if Ryan comes clean then I think Garcia vs Spence will be big for both as like you said, Spence needs a big fight after that devastating loss to Crawford.

The result of the B sample from Ryan will be coming out in 2 days. I can't fight the link though, but I have seen and heard him saying that he doesn't give a f**k about what the result are. And then blurted out that he will put a boxing league of his own. Not sure if he is serious or what, but that is going to be a crazy idea again coming from Garcia.

Bill Haney then responded that what Ryan wanted is to established a boxing organization that will allow the used of Peds, LOL.

We will see then, it seems that Ryan is anticipating that his B sample will also be positive.

Ryan is too popular to be ignored in the boxing industry. If banned he will just join the exhibitions being matched everywhere by the celebrities today. I think Ryan will be a good match with Jake. They are friends but I think people will still watch them. Or he fights against Sean Omalley.

Even if Haney will be successful in bring Ryan down in the industry and nullified his loss, its not something that will be erased on the internet.

[Viscore]

Ryan is too popular to be ignored in the boxing industry. If banned he will just join the exhibitions being matched everywhere by the celebrities today. I think Ryan will be a good match with Jake. They are friends but I think people will still watch them. Or he fights against Sean Omalley.

Even if Haney will be successful in bring Ryan down in the industry and nullified his loss, its not something that will be erased on the internet.

The world will not stop for him because he can always use his popularity to have an exhibition fight, for sure he can still attract crowd and ensure himself a good payday. Maybe in the future since Ryan is already one of the popular celebrity, he can joined the acting job like Connor which has already been seen in  movies.  But let's just focus on the current situation, those are just my futuristic view about a possible job he could do to continue his cash stream.

So if he will be proved to have used a ban substance in boxing, what would be his punishment? I read the news and rumors but didn't follow it carefully so I woudl be interested to know from anyone here who keeps following the progress of this issue.