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All I'm asking is that BC.Game sends me a formal email asking for a video call to confirm my KYC via email - as this is the official form of contact.
I have not initiated any legal proceedings - for now I have only asked for advice. You are making a big mess, maybe it's my fault for not explaining myself well. I have all interactions with BC.Game documented, if there is a requirement for video confirmation, I ask that you do it through the official channel and not through private messages on this forum - I already had requested this to be this way before any invitation was made.
Furthermore, and nevertheless, (once again) I would like to hear from BC.Game Support why they needed more than 5 months to finally propose this step to me.
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March 21, 2024, 12:38:55 PM |
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All I'm asking is that BC.Game sends me a formal email asking for a video call to confirm my KYC via email - as this is the official form of contact.
I have not initiated any legal proceedings - for now I have only asked for advice. You are making a big mess, maybe it's my fault for not explaining myself well. I have all interactions with BC.Game documented, if there is a requirement for video confirmation, I ask that you do it through the official channel and not through private messages on this forum - I already had requested this to be this way before any invitation was made.
Furthermore, and nevertheless, (once again) I would like to hear from BC.Game Support why they needed more than 5 months to finally propose this step to me.
And you're suiting [pun intended] yourself up for a legal suit is because...? Also, the reason you did not bother to come to the video call verification that they've arranged is because...? Further, after you throw this verification session away, without so much regard [as it seems], why do you think they should give a second session, and/or not being more suspicious with the authenticity of your account?
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March 21, 2024, 12:57:39 PM |
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All I'm asking is that BC.Game sends me a formal email asking for a video call to confirm my KYC via email - as this is the official form of contact.
I have not initiated any legal proceedings - for now I have only asked for advice. You are making a big mess, maybe it's my fault for not explaining myself well. I have all interactions with BC.Game documented, if there is a requirement for video confirmation, I ask that you do it through the official channel and not through private messages on this forum - I already had requested this to be this way before any invitation was made.
Furthermore, and nevertheless, (once again) I would like to hear from BC.Game Support why they needed more than 5 months to finally propose this step to me.
And you're suiting [pun intended] yourself up for a legal suit is because...? Also, the reason you did not bother to come to the video call verification that they've arranged is because...? Further, after you throw this verification session away, without so much regard [as it seems], why do you think they should give a second session, and/or not being more suspicious with the authenticity of your account? 1- They denied me my winnings for almost 6 months (now all I have is a meeting request that doesn't mean I get my funds), and always ignored any request from me. In your opinion, is this good? Do you think it would be legal for any casino from today onwards to freeze any winnings for 6 months without giving any explanation? They are legally responsible for this scam. 2- As stated, because I didn't receive any invitation through their official email - so it has no validity on law in any further move. 3- According to my lawyer, they are responsible for paying me my funds, and this technique used by the casino to avoid paying my winnings has been used several times in the past. I want to alert everyone to this fact. If they don't want to reschedule anything, they will respond in court - and it will be more expensive for them, and another negative record on the registry. My request is legit asking them to send the invitational via email.
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All I'm asking is that BC.Game sends me a formal email asking for a video call to confirm my KYC via email - as this is the official form of contact.
I have not initiated any legal proceedings - for now I have only asked for advice. You are making a big mess, maybe it's my fault for not explaining myself well. I have all interactions with BC.Game documented, if there is a requirement for video confirmation, I ask that you do it through the official channel and not through private messages on this forum - I already had requested this to be this way before any invitation was made.
Furthermore, and nevertheless, (once again) I would like to hear from BC.Game Support why they needed more than 5 months to finally propose this step to me.
And you're suiting [pun intended] yourself up for a legal suit is because...? Also, the reason you did not bother to come to the video call verification that they've arranged is because...? Further, after you throw this verification session away, without so much regard [as it seems], why do you think they should give a second session, and/or not being more suspicious with the authenticity of your account? 1- They denied me my winnings for almost 6 months (now all I have is a meeting request that doesn't mean I get my funds), and always ignored any request from me. In your opinion, is this good? Do you think it would be legal for any casino from today onwards to freeze any winnings for 6 months without giving any explanation? They are legally responsible for this scam. 2- As stated, because I didn't receive any invitation through their official email - so it has no validity on law in any further move. 3- According to my lawyer, they are responsible for paying me my funds, and this technique used by the casino to avoid paying my winnings has been used several times in the past. I want to alert everyone to this fact. If they don't want to reschedule anything, they will respond in court - and it will be more expensive for them, and another negative record on the registry. My request is legit asking them to send the invitational via email. I absolutely start to believe this user has something to hide. Nobody in their right mind would throw away this opportunity to finally get this resolved. And your "lawyer", if he even exists, talks nonsense if he actually advised you to skip the call. You are lying in here and I am convinced now after all these nonsense posts. I actually wonder where this person is come from as well. Writing "I won 10 to 20 lakh rs at a time and withdrew, there were never any problems, I made large deposits and everything was fine." would suggest he/she is from India, since this is local currency. Do you really expect an Indian woman talking/writing like this??? Because I don't!
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March 21, 2024, 06:28:46 PM |
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1- They denied me my winnings for almost 6 months (now all I have is a meeting request that doesn't mean I get my funds), and always ignored any request from me. In your opinion, is this good? Do you think it would be legal for any casino from today onwards to freeze any winnings for 6 months without giving any explanation? They are legally responsible for this scam. Rollback a bit. Initially, when you made your previous post stating " more than 5 months", I dismissed it as a small informative piece of statement. But when you repeated here, I can't help but recalled the timeline you initially described, What happened::
I've been playing on in a short time. I won 10 to 20 lakh rs at a time and withdrew, there were never any problems, I made large deposits and everything was fine.
However, recently I won a really large amount of money above 99000 usdt & above - this is where the problems started... At first they didn’t withdraw my money at all for a day and didn’t answer me.
Can you please clarify how long was it since they locked your account and asked you for KYC? Recently, following a large amount of money? A short time ago? More than five months, close to six? While you're at it, can you also tell us how many times have you actually trying to reach them and get it resolved prior to coming here? 2- As stated, because I didn't receive any invitation through their official email - so it has no validity on law in any further move. I still don't understand why do you "lawyered up" even before you do the video call, the one that you previously wanted. On point number 1, you also stated, " now all I have is a meeting request that doesn't mean I get my funds", yeah, but it also have a big probability of them releasing your fund as you manage to verify your identity, especially as you're sure [as you ought to be] that you'll pass, given you own the identity and/or the "under duress" situation that BC found is simply a misunderstanding. If you're in doubt, I think people will normally try to build evidence to prove BC is with malicious intent with the KYC. Taking a video or a screen recording of the video call, perhaps, as it'll prove that [if we amuse a possibility that BC tried to avoid paying you by saying the video verification is invalid] no matter how you prove your credibility and you're not under duress, BC will lie and say other things. Unless [if we amuse another possible scenario] you're sure from the start that you won't pass the KYC because it'll just strengthen BC's initial findings. So, yeah, I still don't understand why you lawyered up, be it simply asking for advice [by the way, does the lawyer didn't even ask for a retainer money before providing his advise and guidance?] And oh, I might be wrong, so if anyone here is familiar with such law it states otherwise, please correct me, but if I am not mistaken, any written statement from an official have weight in court room, so their invitation through PM [which clearly shows it's sent from them, in capacity of BC's representative, and specifically talking about this case] will have as much weight as the ones sent from their email. Huh? 3- According to my lawyer, they are responsible for paying me my funds, and this technique used by the casino to avoid paying my winnings has been used several times in the past. I want to alert everyone to this fact. If they don't want to reschedule anything, they will respond in court - and it will be more expensive for them, and another negative record on the registry. My request is legit asking them to send the invitational via email.
What does your lawyer say about the agreement you entered where you acknowledge that they may request identification whenever they want and lock your account if they believe you're supplying false information? In this case, I think the "false information" come in form of having someone that is not you to perform KYC, perhaps add the fact that you didn't attend to their attempt to clear the issue, given they even already gave another chance by keeping the line open for hours. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F03%2F21%2FJ4YrG.jpeg&t=665&c=Jds0vhGpl0aIbg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F03%2F21%2FJ4fOD.jpeg&t=665&c=vN7YnToMHlhUEA)
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March 21, 2024, 09:55:04 PM |
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1- They denied me my winnings for almost 6 months (now all I have is a meeting request that doesn't mean I get my funds), and always ignored any request from me. In your opinion, is this good? Do you think it would be legal for any casino from today onwards to freeze any winnings for 6 months without giving any explanation? They are legally responsible for this scam. 2- As stated, because I didn't receive any invitation through their official email - so it has no validity on law in any further move.
I have been following this thread right from the start and from everything I have seen so fsrnincan only tell you one thing “stop complicating issue for yourself”. I find it strange that someone whose account has been locked would still be rejecting an opportunity for them to regain access - just because they didn't send you the invitation link through their email. 3- According to my lawyer, they are responsible for paying me my funds, and this technique used by the casino to avoid paying my winnings has been used several times in the past. I want to alert everyone to this fact. If they don't want to reschedule anything, they will respond in court - and it will be more expensive for them, and another negative record on the registry. My request is legit asking them to send the invitational via email.
A lawyer that can't read the ToS of a site? Assuming your lawyer wasn’t made up by you (I believe that you're making this up) then your response would have been different. Bc told you the reason for confiscating your funds all you have to do is follow their instruction so that they can verify if what you're being accused of is false or not.
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I will not disclose our strategies, and I am not obligated to do so, especially in the event of legal proceedings. My account has been closed for five months, and I have requested evidence or an explanation for the closure more than ten times during this period. Why does this matter? I reached out to the lawyer when this issue first arose; this is not a recent thing. Once again, BC did not request any extra documents, KYC, or a video call during those five months - their position always was to hide and spam the same answer. Do you understand? They were absent, and all I received were repeated emails similar to the one I previously shared. So, in your view, does BC.Game reserve the right to freeze an account for as long as they wish? holydarness how can I proof this forum user is a legal representative of casino in court? wouldn't it be easier receving an official email?Please clarify that to me, because I don't see anything in their contacts or wtv regarding to this forum. What does your lawyer say about the agreement you entered where you acknowledge that they may request identification whenever they want and lock your account if they believe you're supplying false information? In this case, I think the "false information" come in form of having someone that is not you to perform KYC, perhaps add the fact that you didn't attend to their attempt to clear the issue, given they even already gave another chance by keeping the line open for hours.
They can lock an account but 5 months is not reasonable - without any update, is it? Did they attend to any of my contacts? I'm the one who told I would be ready at any time. I would wake up if needed - my only request is to send me that invitation from email.
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macedounius last posted 2021-09-15, 13:43:08 (1xbit.com thread) then their next post was 2024-03-05, 21:50:42 (rollbit)
Joana226 last post was 2021-09-10, 02:26:19 (1xbit.com thread) they posted just once 2023-08-31, 19:23:53 then they resumed posting 2024-03-07, 19:27:56 (BC game)
twentyon3x Date Registered: 2024-03-07, 19:41:51 (first post BC game) which was 14 minutes after Joana226 resumed posting
ghostingura2 Date Registered: 2022-06-29, 19:03:58 which just happens to be the EXACT same date macedounius woke up the first time 6/29/2022 8:56:43 AM woke up
Timelord2067 summed my "investigation" up quite well. So many different alts and every single one has their own scam accusation against bc or supports the others. Absolute shameless and scam behaviour. Well miss "Indian lady", how do you explain yourself now? Maybe ask your "lawyer" first. Multiaccounting is against site rules at BC by the way.
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Blossom15 is my alt aswell.
You should stop being ridiculous and getting a life outside would be good to you aswell.
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Blossom15 is my alt aswell.
You should stop being ridiculous and getting a life outside would be good to you aswell.
From their trust feedback page: It's very evident from the patchy posting that the UID is someone's alt - but is it yours? Or, are you just trying to muddy the waters?
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March 22, 2024, 02:29:05 AM |
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Blossom15 is my alt aswell.
You should stop being ridiculous and getting a life outside would be good to you aswell.
Sorry but facts are facts, there is only a number of possible coincidences but with you it's a whole new level. Let others be the judge. Everybody that is reading this thread knows for damn sure you are 1000% not an Indian woman, never ever. And that is exactly why you refuse and skip the call verification, because your whole house of cards would collapse if you take that call. But let's ask your lawyer about this, shall we? And by the way, I think identity theft is a serious matter. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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March 22, 2024, 04:46:18 AM |
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Whether or not the OP has alts is not the issue here. It could be that they do, but the fact remains that BC Games has acknowledged that this OP has an account with them, holding a substantial balance of at least $90,000, which they are denying to the OP, justly or unjustly.
@OP, you came to the forum seeking a solution, and they are offering you one now. It's either you do the video call or not - but keep in mind that this may mean forfeiting your payment. I don’t see any difference that sending the invite to your email will make, but it's obviously very important to you for some reason.
That being said, in the spirit of fairness and to move things along, I'd implore BC Games to send an invite for the video call to the OP’s email. At that point, the ball would be in the OP's court. It shouldn't be difficult to do since they have the OP's email address.
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March 22, 2024, 04:49:22 AM |
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[...] Do you really expect an Indian woman talking/writing like this??? Because I don't!
To be honest, that was my immediate impression when I read the thread here for the first time. From a psychological point of view, reading the OP's posts, you would never get the idea that they were written by a woman. So if he behaved in the same way in the chat with the BC.Game support staff, I'm not surprised that the alarm bells went off there. In my opinion, the immediate rejection of a video call confirms the assumption that there is more to this. This was an honest and above all very simple method on the part of BC.Game to get the matter out of the way, why OP rejected it remains a mystery to me. The statement that the request for the call from BC.Game must come from an official e-mail account also only points to a further dilution and distortion of the case for me. The obvious use of several alternative accounts here in the forum - possibly even with known KYC sellers - of course adds to this
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March 22, 2024, 05:30:56 AM |
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Whether or not the OP has alts is not the issue here. It could be that they do, but the fact remains that BC Games has acknowledged that this OP has an account with them, holding a substantial balance of at least $90,000, which they are denying to the OP, justly or unjustly.
@OP, you came to the forum seeking a solution, and they are offering you one now. It's either you do the video call or not - but keep in mind that this may mean forfeiting your payment. I don’t see any difference that sending the invite to your email will make, but it's obviously very important to you for some reason.
That being said, in the spirit of fairness and to move things along, I'd implore BC Games to send an invite for the video call to the OP’s email. At that point, the ball would be in the OP's court. It shouldn't be difficult to do since they have the OP's email address.
Well, if OP is indeed an alt that also made a different scam accusation ( for a different bc account ) in this forum, this would prove that he is also multi accounting on bc, which would be against their TOS. Of course, the original problem for BC was the suspicious picture that was sent for KYC, no word about multi accounting. This only came to light because of the many suspicious activities here in this forum. Talking about shooting himself in the foot. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now that in this thread several people commented that have some kind of link to OP -> see the connections in the alt account thread in the reputation section, this case goes in a totally different direction. There are many connections that it's hard to see them as coincidences. Also, do you personally believe this is a woman? From India? The type he/she is writing here, no chance. And that's exactly why he/she won't do the call. Maybe they are also trying to buy time. Trying to get in contact with the real person from the ID. That's why he/she skipped the call and asking for emails and stuff.
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March 22, 2024, 05:59:02 AM |
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Maybe they are also trying to buy time. Trying to get in contact with the real person from the ID. That's why he/she skipped the call and asking for emails and stuff.
I'd rather focus on the issue at hand than speculate on irrelevant nonsense like alt accounts, or whether they are white, gay, black, Indian, or Chinese, boy or girl. This is clearly a KYC issue, and it's up to the OP to clear that with BC Games. If they are stalling for time, BC Games can end that by sending the invite to the OP’s email and put this to bed once and for all.
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March 22, 2024, 06:13:13 AM |
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Maybe they are also trying to buy time. Trying to get in contact with the real person from the ID. That's why he/she skipped the call and asking for emails and stuff.
I'd rather focus on the issue at hand than speculate on irrelevant nonsense like alt accounts, or whether they are white, gay, black, Indian, or Chinese, boy or girl. This is clearly a KYC issue, and it's up to the OP to clear that with BC Games. If they are stalling for time, BC Games can end that by sending the invite to the OP’s email and put this to bed once and for all. For you it's irrelevant, for bc it's an issue dealing with alts. I am sure this person has more than 1 account, 100%. It's basically already confirmed. And if he does not accept the call, which he won't cause he can't, there won't be a solution. Oh and by the way, a quick google search showed another lie by OP which stated telegram is banned where he lives. He wrote: "I believe I can't send you PM, thats why. Telegram is blocked in my region as you may know. Send me an email to my registered email, and share a meeting URL so we can do that via Teams for example." Google says: As of March 2024, Telegram has more than 900 million monthly active users, with India leading in the number of users. Anyway, I wonder why you are so eager to defend OP. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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March 22, 2024, 06:38:57 AM |
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Anyway, I wonder why you are so eager to defend OP. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) You seem very invested in this issue, and aside from the OP, the only accounts that have posted here more are you and @holydarkness. I understand Holydarkness's involvement, as they genuinely see themselves as some type of online sleuth and are trying to help. Unlike you, my opinion is not bought. The thread title also says $90,000 - does that mean the OP is in the US? I won't play your stupid games, and I'd rather stick to the facts. The facts are: BC Games has offered the OP a video call to resolve the impasse and has sent them an invite link via PM. The OP requested they send the invite to their registered email, which, in my opinion, is not an unreasonable request. Let's see how it plays out.
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March 22, 2024, 08:59:21 AM |
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You convinced me, you are are part of them, just as it was already mentioned twice in here before.
Same writing style, same demands, same words used, and you are so involved defending this person, it’s not normal.
By the way, to your stupid comment about the currency. Everybody in this forum uses $, but only Indian people would use " I won 10 to 20 lakh rs“ obviously.
Anyway, try to blend people all you want, your intentions here are obvious. There are 3 scenarios here, you are OP , you are part of his group or you sold them the documents. Choose as you like. Every normal thinking person can see there is something wrong with you, and the multiple accounts this month, all accusing bc at the same time are connected. They are now exposed and possible to see.
You made a mistake trying to think people in this forum are fools.
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Them, them, who are they? LOL. You’re obviously batshit crazy or on drugs. Is your mother part of the gang? Your stupid attempt to link me with the OP holds no weight, and anyone with two brain cells can see that. Since you've appointed yourself the official spokesperson for BC Games, could you please tell us why it's so difficult for them to send the invite link from their official email to the OP’s registered email address with BC Games? I won’t be engaging with you any more, you’re biased and full of shit. I don't want to derail the thread with your nonsense. It would be a disservice to the OP and those interested in the truth.
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Them, them, who are they? LOL. You’re obviously batshit crazy or on drugs. Is your mother part of the gang? Your stupid attempt to link me with the OP holds no weight, and anyone with two brain cells can see that. Since you've appointed yourself the official spokesperson for BC Games, could you please tell us why it's so difficult for them to send the invite link from their official email to the OP’s registered email address with BC Games? I won’t be engaging with you any more, you’re biased and full of shit. I don't want to derail the thread with your nonsense. It would be a disservice to the OP and those interested in the truth. I am interested in the truth, just not your truth. You are a person that deals, or has been dealing, with other people's documents, basically identity theft. And in this case there is a high chance identity theft is involved. Also, I was not the first to link you, other people did that part. But the way you act it is obvious you have a horse in the race here. Whatever that horse is, I don't know and don't care. But there is something wrong with your involvement. Funny you say "could you tell us why..." . You basically confirm, haha. So Joana226 or Blossom15 or whatever your name is. You should change the way you speak, otherwise it is really too easy to see your connection. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And about me being "biased", check my reply to bc when they asked me something some days ago. I will blurr their question and 1 part of my reply ( since it would a scammer a strategical advantage ). This should show from the beginning I wanted this to be handled clean. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F03%2F22%2FJ7yB8.png&t=665&c=NAJrbi3IRPWxyw) Now after all these accounts came to light, with all the connections, I am strongly siding with bc. Also because OP willingly skipped the KYC call even though this could have solved the whole situation. Only somebody hiding something would act that way. You not seeing and even question this strongly suggests you have something to do with this as well. But thanks for sharing your useless information. Just like his other alt account (members of the same group) you didn't do your cause a big favour with your involvement.
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