2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets!

[bbc.reporter]

@cabron. Hehehe they think mic muting will be very advantageous for Biden, however, this does not stop Donald Trump from talking loudly or shouting while Joe Biden is speaking on the mic. I am quite certain this will be a comedy show with Trump breaking the party prepared by Jake Tapper for Biden.

I reckon Trump might lose the debate, however, all of the comedy will come from him which will make it appear that he is the winner hehehehehehe.

[Hispo]

Eager to see how this debate is going to influence the odds and the perception the people of the United States have on both candidates. Though, I would like to point out I would have liked to see Kennedy Junior to also be part of this debate, and not being a replay of what we already saw four years ago with exactly the same candidates. If CNN and other news channels agreed to also host Kennedy Jr, then I am sure Trump would rather not to attend and debate Biden, Kennedy takes an important percentage of votes from both Biden and Trump, neither of the parties want to give him a platform to discourage voters to go for the two obvious alternatives.
Also, I have noticed how Trump seems to have tone down his discourse about Biden health and cognitive behavior, he even said Biden would probably do good at debate and he does not want to underestimate him.

[Sithara007]

@cabron. Hehehe they think mic muting will be very advantageous for Biden, however, this does not stop Donald Trump from talking loudly or shouting while Joe Biden is speaking on the mic. I am quite certain this will be a comedy show with Trump breaking the party prepared by Jake Tapper for Biden.

I reckon Trump might lose the debate, however, all of the comedy will come from him which will make it appear that he is the winner hehehehehehe.

I am surprised that you guys are so optimistic about Joe Biden. In recent days, a lot of questions were being asked about his health. I a not sure whether he will be able to complete the debate, which can last for 90 minutes. Still we have around 8 hours to go for the start of the debate (which is set for 9pm Eastern Time). Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be the moderators for this debate, and you can watch the debate either on CNN (for cable TV subscribers), or online through CNN.com.

[MarvinHagler]

I am surprised that you guys are so optimistic about Joe Biden. In recent days, a lot of questions were being asked about his health. I a not sure whether he will be able to complete the debate, which can last for 90 minutes. Still we have around 8 hours to go for the start of the debate (which is set for 9pm Eastern Time). Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be the moderators for this debate, and you can watch the debate either on CNN (for cable TV subscribers), or online through CNN.com.

If you asked me a few months ago, I would have said Trump wins easily but I'm not so sure now. Recent polling shows a lot of Republicans have lost faith in Trump due to his erratic behaviour and legal troubles.

Either way, it is going to be a very close election.

[o48o]

@cabron. Hehehe they think mic muting will be very advantageous for Biden, however, this does not stop Donald Trump from talking loudly or shouting while Joe Biden is speaking on the mic. I am quite certain this will be a comedy show with Trump breaking the party prepared by Jake Tapper for Biden.

I reckon Trump might lose the debate, however, all of the comedy will come from him which will make it appear that he is the winner hehehehehehe.

I am surprised that you guys are so optimistic about Joe Biden. In recent days, a lot of questions were being asked about his health. I a not sure whether he will be able to complete the debate, which can last for 90 minutes. Still we have around 8 hours to go for the start of the debate (which is set for 9pm Eastern Time). Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be the moderators for this debate, and you can watch the debate either on CNN (for cable TV subscribers), or online through CNN.com.

And why would people worry more about Joe's than Donald's health? It didn't sound like he was too much awake in his own trial.

And it's not like Trump has been coherent lately:

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So I tell that story. And the fake news they go, he told this crazy story with electric. It's actually not crazy. It's sort of a smart story, right? Sort of like, you know, it's like the snake, it's a smart when you, you figure what you're leaving in, right? You're bringing it in the, you know, the snake, right? The snake and the snake. I tell that and they do the same thing

Source: https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1804592040791122259

There's way more of that, but i don't know how to form paragraphs from it, as nothing in it makes any sense. So it would just would look like a wall of text from a stroke victim. So good luck with that debate... But no matter what Donald says, or how he performs, maga people still will thinks he won. And same goes for the opposite. I am guessing that most people have already made their minds and rest of them don't even care.

And i doubt that this would in anyway affect to voting odds. But i am saving my brain from watching this one, i rather get some sleep. I can't get any comedy from this no matter how it goes. It's just sad.

[STT]

Trump lacks the diversity of support, it was never going to be easy.  Having just more support from the same places wont help, that was how he got the electoral win in 2016 from the number of states who refused to vote in another Clinton, surprisingly unpopular even if alot of votes occurred in some places.  Now Trump has that same problem, no doubt he has some fanatical support and alot of votes in some states but it lacks the broad appeal required.

Its a win for Biden despite criticism as he is the sitting president and the lay of the land is a bias towards reelection despite Trump not being unknown he hasnt gained imo.   They wont mute mics, maybe mix the volume to reduce perhaps but the 2 candidates are standing too close to each other for any exclusion in that way imo.

Apparently this is not actually going to happen but is just a rumor at present.


**  Biden's voice is so low, it does count against him.  

[ChiBitCTy]

I'm placing a bet, a bet better than any person in the history of the united states, just ask anyone, folks.  I've probably done more for this gambling board than anyone in the history of bitcointalk.  Billions and billions and billions of posts, still the best.  

I'd make fun of Joe, but I'm not sure I've understood anything he's said all night.  To be fair, not bad for being 133 years old.  I surely won't be alive at that age.  

Anyways...anyone know if these odds have changed during the debate?  MURICA 

[Julien_Olynpic]

It's funny that in this election, presidential candidates finally realized that cryptocurrency enthusiasts in general and Bitcoin in particular are an influential electoral force. And it looks like the Republicans were the first to realize this. Perhaps Trump had consultants - political strategists, election specialists who recommended that he pay attention to cryptocurrencies, because this is the part of the voters that remains unattended. Moreover, the Democrats, through the SEC head Harry Gansler, who is loyal to them, are putting pressure on cryptocurrencies and this has certainly now become their weakness in these elections. We all saw the news that the Biden campaign was looking for an expert on cryptocurrencies, even, in my opinion, on memes, to make it part of its election agenda. But so far, in this sense, the Democrats are clearly lagging behind the Republicans.

[ChiBitCTy]

It's funny that in this election, presidential candidates finally realized that cryptocurrency enthusiasts in general and Bitcoin in particular are an influential electoral force. And it looks like the Republicans were the first to realize this. Perhaps Trump had consultants - political strategists, election specialists who recommended that he pay attention to cryptocurrencies, because this is the part of the voters that remains unattended. Moreover, the Democrats, through the SEC head Harry Gansler, who is loyal to them, are putting pressure on cryptocurrencies and this has certainly now become their weakness in these elections. We all saw the news that the Biden campaign was looking for an expert on cryptocurrencies, even, in my opinion, on memes, to make it part of its election agenda. But so far, in this sense, the Democrats are clearly lagging behind the Republicans.

Truth is that makes a VERY VERY LITTLE bit of difference with voters.  It matters to us cryptocurrency supporters, but even the majority of those who own bitcoin, don't give two shits about what it really is.  What is really stands for.  To say it makes a difference would be saying americans understand fractional reserve banking and money printing, the VAST majority do not.  It's one tiny arrow in trumps whatever you call it that holds arrow, quiver or whatever.  It wont make any sizable differences voting wise.

[OcTradism]

It's funny that in this election, presidential candidates finally realized that cryptocurrency enthusiasts in general and Bitcoin in particular are an influential electoral force. And it looks like the Republicans were the first to realize this. Perhaps Trump had consultants - political strategists, election specialists who recommended that he pay attention to cryptocurrencies, because this is the part of the voters that remains unattended.

At their ages Biden and Trump will have their last Presidency if wining the next election. What will happen with the nation, with the act, law and regulation on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency next 5 years, after a next presidency ends, possibly is not too important with them. But for this coming President Election, they know the importance of showing their support on this market. Do they actually support it or only want to show off to get more votes?

We will know after one of the two takes the President role next year.

Moreover, the Democrats, through the SEC head Harry Gansler, who is loyal to them, are putting pressure on cryptocurrencies and this has certainly now become their weakness in these elections. We all saw the news that the Biden campaign was looking for an expert on cryptocurrencies, even, in my opinion, on memes, to make it part of its election agenda. But so far, in this sense, the Democrats are clearly lagging behind the Republicans.

It's bad for the market and this industry recent years with very aggressive regulation of SEC under Gensler. It has come to the end with approvals for Bitcoin Spot ETFs and Ethereum Spot ETFS.

I really hope that the trend will continue, and cryptocurrency market and industry will be treated more friendly next four years.

[fruktik]

It's funny that in this election, presidential candidates finally realized that cryptocurrency enthusiasts in general and Bitcoin in particular are an influential electoral force. And it looks like the Republicans were the first to realize this. Perhaps Trump had consultants - political strategists, election specialists who recommended that he pay attention to cryptocurrencies, because this is the part of the voters that remains unattended. Moreover, the Democrats, through the SEC head Harry Gansler, who is loyal to them, are putting pressure on cryptocurrencies and this has certainly now become their weakness in these elections. We all saw the news that the Biden campaign was looking for an expert on cryptocurrencies, even, in my opinion, on memes, to make it part of its election agenda. But so far, in this sense, the Democrats are clearly lagging behind the Republicans.

Do you think Biden cares about cryptocurrencies? This is just funny. This is nothing more than an election campaign. During such periods, speeches will be made that will make the hair on your head stand on end, just to gain the trust of the audience, which still doubts its decision.

Yes, no one argues that the audience of cryptomaniacs is quite large. Why didn’t anyone care about her before the elections? And then suddenly they remembered that it exists. A striking coincidence, however.

[criptoevangelista]

It's funny that in this election, presidential candidates finally realized that cryptocurrency enthusiasts in general and Bitcoin in particular are an influential electoral force. And it looks like the Republicans were the first to realize this. Perhaps Trump had consultants - political strategists, election specialists who recommended that he pay attention to cryptocurrencies, because this is the part of the voters that remains unattended. Moreover, the Democrats, through the SEC head Harry Gansler, who is loyal to them, are putting pressure on cryptocurrencies and this has certainly now become their weakness in these elections. We all saw the news that the Biden campaign was looking for an expert on cryptocurrencies, even, in my opinion, on memes, to make it part of its election agenda. But so far, in this sense, the Democrats are clearly lagging behind the Republicans.

Do you think Biden cares about cryptocurrencies? This is just funny. This is nothing more than an election campaign. During such periods, speeches will be made that will make the hair on your head stand on end, just to gain the trust of the audience, which still doubts its decision.

Yes, no one argues that the audience of cryptomaniacs is quite large. Why didn’t anyone care about her before the elections? And then suddenly they remembered that it exists. A striking coincidence, however.

They are politicians, right... they go with the narrative that brings them the most votes... if bitcoin brings them votes, they will be in favor of bitcoin... if bitcoin takes away votes, they will be against it. Everything is a political maneuver to win over what they want.

[MarvinHagler]

Eager to see how this debate is going to influence the odds and the perception the people of the United States have on both candidates. Though, I would like to point out I would have liked to see Kennedy Junior to also be part of this debate, and not being a replay of what we already saw four years ago with exactly the same candidates. If CNN and other news channels agreed to also host Kennedy Jr, then I am sure Trump would rather not to attend and debate Biden, Kennedy takes an important percentage of votes from both Biden and Trump, neither of the parties want to give him a platform to discourage voters to go for the two obvious alternatives.
Also, I have noticed how Trump seems to have tone down his discourse about Biden health and cognitive behavior, he even said Biden would probably do good at debate and he does not want to underestimate him.

The odds for Trump shortened during and after the election.

That was a disaster for Biden. There is no other way to put it.

[boltz]

Awful debate from Biden and a lot of voters lost their confidence in him after what they saw last night. I also think democrats will need to find a solution for Biden because he is clearly losing his touch with each day passing by and Trump is getting more voters by day. I personally , don't want to see Biden winning by the state he is currently in because he is not lucid at all and USA needs a strong president from all points of view and Biden unfortunately is not what it used to be a couple of years ago... .

[Marykeller]

Awful debate from Biden and a lot of voters lost their confidence in him after what they saw last night. I also think democrats will need to find a solution for Biden because he is clearly losing his touch with each day passing by and Trump is getting more voters by day. I personally , don't want to see Biden winning by the state he is currently in because he is not lucid at all and USA needs a strong president from all points of view and Biden unfortunately is not what it used to be a couple of years ago... .

Biden's performance in yesterday's presidential debate was very poor, Democrats are talking about ways to get Biden replaced after a shocking performance. You can read further here
There are areas of concern to their decision, finding the right nominee that will defeat Trump in the November election. That won't be so easy to get Biden replaced without his consent

[cabron]

I'm placing a bet, a bet better than any person in the history of the united states, just ask anyone, folks.  I've probably done more for this gambling board than anyone in the history of bitcointalk.  Billions and billions and billions of posts, still the best.  

I'd make fun of Joe, but I'm not sure I've understood anything he's said all night.  To be fair, not bad for being 133 years old.  I surely won't be alive at that age.  

Anyways...anyone know if these odds have changed during the debate?  MURICA  

Honestly I expect Biden to look worse but he seem to have made improved his cognitive. He isn't this way in some coverage we see. Not sure what they did to him but still the man deserved a good quite life after his presidency.

There have been theories why this debate is held 100 more years before the election is because its a plot to replace Biden.
The Dems know they are not winning with him and I think they will soon have a better guy in the name of Newsom.
While Trump is not the most liked person, he may win if its still Biden that he will be competing. That's is why there is the need for new candidate. This I think is the basic strategy to make for the Dem.

[Hispo]

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The odds for Trump shortened during and after the election.

That was a disaster for Biden. There is no other way to put it.

I assume you meant "debate" rather than "election"  there. Anyways, I have seen summaries on the debate and I must admit it was quite lackluster for Biden. He allowed Trump to say any variety of lies and go away within with no fact checking at all, all of it while Biden was still struggling to keep up with the pace of the debate itself.
Not exactly what I expected, to be honest, I thought Biden was going to perform as good as Trump and they were going to be in equal conditions when comes to performance.
This is the first of other debates to come, one must wonder, whether the democrat party will still go along and allow Biden to show up in the rest of the debates or rather, he will be osolated from participating in them conpletely.

[FanEagle]

@cabron. Hehehe they think mic muting will be very advantageous for Biden, however, this does not stop Donald Trump from talking loudly or shouting while Joe Biden is speaking on the mic. I am quite certain this will be a comedy show with Trump breaking the party prepared by Jake Tapper for Biden.

I reckon Trump might lose the debate, however, all of the comedy will come from him which will make it appear that he is the winner hehehehehehe.

I feel like Trump not following the rules is a great example of what he is as a person, and why he shouldn't even be the president as well. I feel like they should put both of them into boxes, and just make sure that if their microphone is not on, they can scream as much as they want, and nobody would hear them because box would be sound proof, that's the only way you can stop Trump.

Biden may not be a great president, hell he may not even be senile at this point, but I think Trump being a horrible person who thinks he is above the law and who honestly believes that the election was stolen from him and tried to make his followers angry against the entire government (I still blame January 6 on trump) shows that if he is given the chance, he will crown himself king until he dies. Which goes to show you that he should not hold even state congressman level power, let alone him being the president again.

[STT]

Its awful presentation by Biden during his debate but its no shock revelation that he is stumbling in his words a bit.   Whats made it apparent is the length of speaking, free speech no prompt or exact preparation.   I could tell he either forgot or stumbled when trying to recall prepared parts of his responses which is unfortunate for him in looking bad.

What the public have to decide now is whether presentation disqualifies him from standing, for some people it will be enough to lose their vote.   So I guess its fair that his odds are worse after that debate, I still think he wins though unlikely as that might seem.   He is just a figurehead for a whole administration which will no doubt be as capable as before regardless of his ability for fine speech.   If we could bring back a fine speaking president no doubt people would want to vote in another Obama but I just dont see that occurring and Biden stepping down.  The bet on Michelle Obama is just ridiculous but is there for those of that line of thinking  no doubt.

I'm going to call this peak Trump, his odds should peak at this point.  He got every point in his favor even the infamy of the 'unfair' court case, if you dont bet for him to win now you never will I guess.  Hence its peak odds for that, to me that means the best odds for not betting Trump is now in value terms so thats what Im considering.   Biden has followed up with some concession/fightback on 'losing' the debate but also I think its overstated, hence the reaction etc. will decide more seriously then the actual debate performance as bad as it presented initially.

[wheelz1200]

I've never seen a worse debate in my entire life.  If there was ever a time for a third party revolution it is literally now.  I don't know what the current odds are but they had to have taken a dip from biden after last night.  Not entirely sure who I'm gonna vote for and I have a feeling there are a lot of other people like me right now.  800 million people and those 2 were all we could come up with lol.