2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets!

[nelson4lov]

I've never seen a worse debate in my entire life.  If there was ever a time for a third party revolution it is literally now.  I don't know what the current odds are but they had to have taken a dip from biden after last night.  Not entirely sure who I'm gonna vote for and I have a feeling there are a lot of other people like me right now.  800 million people and those 2 were all we could come up with lol.

As someone that isn't an American but watched majority of the debate yesterday, I couldn't help but wondered why Trump and Biden have been the only frontrunners in the last decade. Biden looked to be too old to be ruling a country. While Trump was the more lively of the two but I hear majority of what he said and claimed were all a lie. I don't think US will be getting any better than those two. The old adage about the angel we know (Trump) is still a much better option imo and he is a pro  bitcoin/crypto candidate.

[fruktik]

They are politicians, right... they go with the narrative that brings them the most votes... if bitcoin brings them votes, they will be in favor of bitcoin... if bitcoin takes away votes, they will be against it. Everything is a political maneuver to win over what they want.

Are there those who still doubt this and believe in the election slogans of politicians? If this is so, then I feel sorry for such people. They don't understand anything about politics at all and should stay away from voting stations. This is my opinion on this matter.

This is just the beginning. When the deadlines are tight, you and I will not hear anything like that. Crypto will become the leader of the agenda. You'll see.

[satscraper]

This is a darkest timeline.

Agreed, however everything could change in one moment if Biden (known to be very stubborn person, Irish blood all around) withdrew from the race and someone from  Democrats will step in his shoes. I would vote for Gavin Newsom who known to be very intelligent and handsome man.

Regarding  Presidential election bets. I think there will no be big betters  ( meaning "better" equals to financial investor, as latter is a true gambler  when it concerns Presidential elections) this time,because  the  the situation as it has developed is   too vague.

[Sithara007]

This is a darkest timeline.

Agreed, however everything could change in one moment if Biden (known to be very stubborn person, Irish blood all around) withdrew from the race and someone from  Democrats will step in his shoes. I would vote for Gavin Newsom who known to be very intelligent and handsome man.

Regarding  Presidential election bets. I think there will no be big betters  ( meaning "better" equals to financial investor, as latter is a true gambler  when it concerns Presidential elections) this time,because  the  the situation as it has developed is   too vague.

With just 4 months to go to the POTUS elections, isn't it too late for Biden to withdraw from the race? And I saw the tweet from Barack Obama yesterday. He strongly supports Biden as the Democratic candidate. There are a few names floating around, such as Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. But none of them are considered as "moderates" and in case either of them are named as the replacement for Biden, then Democrats are likely to lose even more votes as the independent voters will desert them in droves.

[Catenaccio]

With just 4 months to go to the POTUS elections, isn't it too late for Biden to withdraw from the race? And I saw the tweet from Barack Obama yesterday. He strongly supports Biden as the Democratic candidate. There are a few names floating around, such as Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. But none of them are considered as "moderates" and in case either of them are named as the replacement for Biden, then Democrats are likely to lose even more votes as the independent voters will desert them in droves.

Barack Obama implied that Joe Biden did not have a good debate, we can not ignore his implication. I am surprised that The Democrats Party did not see this fact before the debate because Joe does not suddenly have poor thinking and communication like this. It's in a long progress and in a same party, their politicians must see this fact better than outsiders.

Is it too late for them to replace Joe Biden? It's not too late but how hard it is to replace Joe because big reasons must be agreed in their party before they can force Joe to step down. Joe months ago said, Trump is a reason he wants to join the President Election. Other politicians in Democrats Party will struggle to convince US. citizens with very little time left.

[mv1986]

With just 4 months to go to the POTUS elections, isn't it too late for Biden to withdraw from the race? And I saw the tweet from Barack Obama yesterday. He strongly supports Biden as the Democratic candidate. There are a few names floating around, such as Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. But none of them are considered as "moderates" and in case either of them are named as the replacement for Biden, then Democrats are likely to lose even more votes as the independent voters will desert them in droves.

Barack Obama implied that Joe Biden did not have a good debate, we can not ignore his implication. I am surprised that The Democrats Party did not see this fact before the debate because Joe does not suddenly have poor thinking and communication like this. It's in a long progress and in a same party, their politicians must see this fact better than outsiders.

Is it too late for them to replace Joe Biden? It's not too late but how hard it is to replace Joe because big reasons must be agreed in their party before they can force Joe to step down. Joe months ago said, Trump is a reason he wants to join the President Election. Other politicians in Democrats Party will struggle to convince US. citizens with very little time left.

I don't even know whether they would have to force Joe Biden to step down. It is weird how they are going about it, but I think it wouldn't need much to convince Biden himself to step back. I believe it is more about giving him false hopes. I wonder where the mistake is here, but is it possible that a guy of his age and his mental state can suppress any other opinion within the party? I am not sure. I don't know though, but for now it seems that they don't have anyone else they trust, which is baffling to me.

[ultrloa]

With just 4 months to go to the POTUS elections, isn't it too late for Biden to withdraw from the race? And I saw the tweet from Barack Obama yesterday. He strongly supports Biden as the Democratic candidate. There are a few names floating around, such as Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. But none of them are considered as "moderates" and in case either of them are named as the replacement for Biden, then Democrats are likely to lose even more votes as the independent voters will desert them in droves.

Barack Obama implied that Joe Biden did not have a good debate, we can not ignore his implication. I am surprised that The Democrats Party did not see this fact before the debate because Joe does not suddenly have poor thinking and communication like this. It's in a long progress and in a same party, their politicians must see this fact better than outsiders.

Is it too late for them to replace Joe Biden? It's not too late but how hard it is to replace Joe because big reasons must be agreed in their party before they can force Joe to step down. Joe months ago said, Trump is a reason he wants to join the President Election. Other politicians in Democrats Party will struggle to convince US. citizens with very little time left.

I don't even know whether they would have to force Joe Biden to step down. It is weird how they are going about it, but I think it wouldn't need much to convince Biden himself to step back. I believe it is more about giving him false hopes. I wonder where the mistake is here, but is it possible that a guy of his age and his mental state can suppress any other opinion within the party? I am not sure. I don't know though, but for now it seems that they don't have anyone else they trust, which is baffling to me.

For latest debate performance he shows and how Trump easily beaten him I guess its good for Biden to realize that he can't outscored Trump in that case and if he continue to perform like that then they will just show how smart Trump is and how lame they are. If they have time to correct all the mistakes they done and practice more to perform good in next debate if there are situation like this again to happen. But if nothing will be change maybe its time for his party to decide to replace their candidate if they could able to do it.  Although I think its late for their party to out perform Trump since he do a good actions earlier and lots of people starting to have faith for the supports he show from certain industry like bitcoin and also people want a change that's. Also Biden is their strongest their candidate so I maybe guess its to late for them to decide for a replacement if there's a plan like this raised in their party.

[Kemarit]

With just 4 months to go to the POTUS elections, isn't it too late for Biden to withdraw from the race? And I saw the tweet from Barack Obama yesterday. He strongly supports Biden as the Democratic candidate. There are a few names floating around, such as Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. But none of them are considered as "moderates" and in case either of them are named as the replacement for Biden, then Democrats are likely to lose even more votes as the independent voters will desert them in droves.

Barack Obama implied that Joe Biden did not have a good debate, we can not ignore his implication. I am surprised that The Democrats Party did not see this fact before the debate because Joe does not suddenly have poor thinking and communication like this. It's in a long progress and in a same party, their politicians must see this fact better than outsiders.

Is it too late for them to replace Joe Biden? It's not too late but how hard it is to replace Joe because big reasons must be agreed in their party before they can force Joe to step down. Joe months ago said, Trump is a reason he wants to join the President Election. Other politicians in Democrats Party will struggle to convince US. citizens with very little time left.

I don't even know whether they would have to force Joe Biden to step down. It is weird how they are going about it, but I think it wouldn't need much to convince Biden himself to step back. I believe it is more about giving him false hopes. I wonder where the mistake is here, but is it possible that a guy of his age and his mental state can suppress any other opinion within the party? I am not sure. I don't know though, but for now it seems that they don't have anyone else they trust, which is baffling to me.

For latest debate performance he shows and how Trump easily beaten him I guess its good for Biden to realize that he can't outscored Trump in that case and if he continue to perform like that then they will just show how smart Trump is and how lame they are. If they have time to correct all the mistakes they done and practice more to perform good in next debate if there are situation like this again to happen. But if nothing will be change maybe its time for his party to decide to replace their candidate if they could able to do it.  Although I think its late for their party to out perform Trump since he do a good actions earlier and lots of people starting to have faith for the supports he show from certain industry like bitcoin and also people want a change that's. Also Biden is their strongest their candidate so I maybe guess its to late for them to decide for a replacement if there's a plan like this raised in their party.

It just shows what Biden critics is telling all along, that he can't run the country and probably he is just a proxy President because as just shown in the debate, he has nothing to say and didn't prove any for his voters and critics alike. So this is another win for Trump and who knows, he had gathered momentum again and the hype will continue just like when he upset Hillary the last time.

I don't think that the party will replace Biden, he is the President after all. Perhaps what they will do is damage control as per the result of the debate. They could have a lot of people surrounding him with experience on this kind of matter. But still, it's the US voter that will decide.

[FinneysTrueVision]

As someone that isn't an American but watched majority of the debate yesterday, I couldn't help but wondered why Trump and Biden have been the only frontrunners in the last decade. Biden looked to be too old to be ruling a country. While Trump was the more lively of the two but I hear majority of what he said and claimed were all a lie. I don't think US will be getting any better than those two. The old adage about the angel we know (Trump) is still a much better option imo and he is a pro  bitcoin/crypto candidate.

The media plays a significant role in pushing the Democrat’s preferred candidate. This would be an ideal year for third party candidates to start getting some attention but they are extremely marginalized. The ruling class will in no way allow a wild card whom they do not own and control to take charge. The nomination process for the Democratic party is designed in a way where an outsider has no chance to win. Bernie Sanders was sabotaged by the party’s leadership and they always have superdelegates that can subvert the will of the people and make sure the establishment candidate is selected no matter what.

In this cycle, they’ve insisted on Biden being the nominee, so he ran unopposed in the primaries, despite many Democrats wanting another option.

On the Republican side, Trump is allowed to win their nomination because he is not a true outsider. Trump craves power and wealth and will fully cooperate with the establishment if it serves his interests. He might be unconventional, but at the end of the day will still give billionaires everything they want through whatever corrupt means may be necessary.

The election process is mostly a sham, where regardless of who wins they will still be beholden to genocidal and imperialist interests. The only difference is Biden will be waving a rainbow flag as American made bombs are being dropped on children.

[alani123]

What a disaster debate for Biden. Makes me wonder if the high ranking DNC members supporting him are just stupid. The man is inept, makes no sense and can't even promote his own good actions. Surely he is not a saint but he failed to even be the least bit presentable...

Consider this... It's a very bad time for Biden as all viewers came out saying trump won the debale and yet people with high ranks in the DMC came out to support him. Just how out of touch can today's politics become. I really hope this imploded and we finally see some action.

Betting on Trump to win is easy enough, but is there a place we can bet that Biden won’t be the next President. While I’m confident in a Trump win, I’d mortgage my house to bet that Biden would lose with anywhere near decent odds.

This would be in Polymarket.

https://polymarket.com/event/presidential-election-winner-2024?tid=1718679625805

You can choose yes or no for each candidate listed in the prediction market. On Biden not to win as president, at present the odds for this is if you bet $100, you will win $49.25.

Also, do not mortgage your house or get a loan for this. If you lose, you will not forget the face of Joe Biden heheheheh.

Personally I don't trust polymarket because its regular players also control how markets close so oftentimes they just close markets as they like to not lose money.
A very characteristic example is the one I pointed out here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480541.0

[nelson4lov]

As someone that isn't an American but watched majority of the debate yesterday, I couldn't help but wondered why Trump and Biden have been the only frontrunners in the last decade. Biden looked to be too old to be ruling a country. While Trump was the more lively of the two but I hear majority of what he said and claimed were all a lie. I don't think US will be getting any better than those two. The old adage about the devil we know (Trump) is still a much better option imo and he is a pro  bitcoin/crypto candidate.

The media plays a significant role in pushing the Democrat’s preferred candidate. This would be an ideal year for third party candidates to start getting some attention but they are extremely marginalized. The ruling class will in no way allow a wild card whom they do not own and control to take charge. The nomination process for the Democratic party is designed in a way where an outsider has no chance to win. Bernie Sanders was sabotaged by the party’s leadership and they always have superdelegates that can subvert the will of the people and make sure the establishment candidate is selected no matter what.

In this cycle, they’ve insisted on Biden being the nominee, so he ran unopposed in the primaries, despite many Democrats wanting another option.

On the Republican side, Trump is allowed to win their nomination because he is not a true outsider. Trump craves power and wealth and will fully cooperate with the establishment if it serves his interests. He might be unconventional, but at the end of the day will still give billionaires everything they want through whatever corrupt means may be necessary.

The election process is mostly a sham, where regardless of who wins they will still be beholden to genocidal and imperialist interests. The only difference is Biden will be waving a rainbow flag as American made bombs are being dropped on children.

Thanks for for further insights on the inner workings and happenings that goes on behind the scenes of US politics / presidential election process. I haven't had much interest for US presidency in recent years but this time, I have my concerns because whoever gets elected will either be a make or break for crypto. Based on your reply, I can make out that neither of the two leading candidates have genuine intensions for US. I still maintain that sometimes, the devil you know is better than the angel you don't know — just quoting because Biden is already known.

My country was in a similar position a few years back. Elect a publicly known to be corrupt party vs electing another party that seems genuine on the surface. They picked the latter and what followed was hardship. My stance hasn't changed. Trump does it for me.

[Zigabel]

As someone that isn't an American but watched majority of the debate yesterday, I couldn't help but wondered why Trump and Biden have been the only frontrunners in the last decade. Biden looked to be too old to be ruling a country. While Trump was the more lively of the two but I hear majority of what he said and claimed were all a lie. I don't think US will be getting any better than those two. The old adage about the angel we know (Trump) is still a much better option imo and he is a pro  bitcoin/crypto candidate.

I'm not American but seeing the debate I will agree with you on your opinion, I cannot say for a bet  a particular candidate is going to win but then it's very clear to us that isn't not going to get any better, we may only have to adjust to whatever it is the outcome may turn out to be because both candidates have got their own imperfections and limitations at various points but trump been a pro crypto person, is an advantage for him which can help him build more.force. I personally think Biden is just too old already to handling national affairs, it wouldn't be bad if he steps down already.

[Docnaster]

As someone that isn't an American but watched majority of the debate yesterday, I couldn't help but wondered why Trump and Biden have been the only frontrunners in the last decade. Biden looked to be too old to be ruling a country. While Trump was the more lively of the two but I hear majority of what he said and claimed were all a lie. I don't think US will be getting any better than those two. The old adage about the angel we know (Trump) is still a much better option imo and he is a pro  bitcoin/crypto candidate.

I'm not American but seeing the debate I will agree with you on your opinion, I cannot say for a bet  a particular candidate is going to win but then it's very clear to us that isn't not going to get any better, we may only have to adjust to whatever it is the outcome may turn out to be because both candidates have got their own imperfections and limitations at various points but trump been a pro crypto person, is an advantage for him which can help him build more.force. I personally think Biden is just too old already to handling national affairs, it wouldn't be bad if he steps down already.

The reason why the people of the United States of America will have to choose between Donald Trump and Joe Biden is because the electoral system in the country is called a two-party system and these two persons have emerged are the flag bearers of the top two political parties. I watched the debate between Trump and Biden but if I must be honest, it was Trump that was more outspoken than his opponent but news had it that most of the things that Trump said to convince the audience were lies. Just like you said, I can't bet of who is going to win among the remaining two of them but if you ask me if my preferred candidate, I'll go with Donald Trump because he's more energetic and also faster in taking drastic decisions. America is the world power and at as such, they need a vibrant president like Donald Trump

[FanEagle]

Biden definitely doesn't care about crypto, but believe me when I say this, Trump doesn't neither. They both care about votes, that's it and if one of them thinks saying good things about crypto will get them more votes then they will do that, if they believed being anti-crypto brings more votes, they would certain say hateful remarks about crypto too.

Remember, these are politicians, a politicians job is to make the nation a better place, but a politicians aim is to get as much votes as possible, and if those two things mean two different approach, they would aim to get more votes and ruin the nation if they have to, instead of make the nation better and lose votes. Also, this debate was a boring one as well. Surely Biden looked terrible, but Trump looked not as good as I imagined neither, he seems to be getting older too, definitely better in the brain compared to Biden, but I know a 98 year old grandma (not mine) that is smarter than Biden, so it is not really that weird.

[stompix]

Odds for Biden as nominee have gone to 1.44



Newsom has dropped to 9 to 1 for the election and this is only because of his low odds to actually participating, he was 18 to 1.



I've said it before, it's too early to place bets and at this point, there is a possibility of everyone who took a bet getting screwed if the dems change their nominee, cause I can see Trump beating Biden but with Newsom fully in campaign mode, it's different.

[STT]

The main thing to note with Biden is this is not his first rodeo, this aint the first time people had their doubts. Its not the first time he fell off the horse, it might be the largest crowd observe the mistakes made but to those who watch carefully its not unexpected.

  We would be on a different timeline if they had just put forward in 2016 Biden to fight Trump not Clinton who is despised rightly or wrongly by many with consistent votes broadly across the country against her standing.

If those events has transpired differently Biden would have won against Trump as no doubt he could carry forward the very popular Obama administration votes.  In 2024 he would now be retiring, winding down his tenure he would not be in this same spotlight and most likely no concern would be expressed.



  Reagan also had a delayed nomination and vote into the White house and by the time he was leaving office he had some errors apparent from later diagnosed medical conditions; point being few noticed as he was already leaving by then.  Theres a biopic on Reagan coming onto TV just as USA goes to vote btw, as a Republican he clearly puts Trump to shame not sure that will matter.

Biden isnt standing down, not when its such a personal fight.  He would have to be put out by his own party, from what I've heard there is only one alternate choice in that matter and it would be the Vice President to take the job.  However I think Biden runs and wins still.

[Hispo]

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. Also, this debate was a boring one as well. Surely Biden looked terrible, but Trump looked not as good as I imagined neither, he seems to be getting older too, definitely better in the brain compared to Biden, but I know a 98 year old grandma (not mine) that is smarter than Biden, so it is not really that weird.

That is why is preferable to go straight to summaries about the debate on YouTube instead of following it live on the night it takes place. I knew this was going to be a lackluster debate from the beginning, because how it was being picture by both political sides in the United States. It was not about actual politics or national policies, you know. It was rather a show to see who was going to glitch and commit a mistake first in front of the nation. Trump was allowed to say whatever he wanted in front of the camera, unchallenged and was not fact checking from Biden on those lies said by Trump whatsoever.

Also, the cognitive condition of someone in their 80s and 90s does not only depends on their age, it also depends on other things, like genes and lifestyle. There are relatively young people who have cognitive problems, because of things they could not control from the beginning, sadly.

[MainMan79]

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[EarnOnVictor]

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. Also, this debate was a boring one as well. Surely Biden looked terrible, but Trump looked not as good as I imagined neither, he seems to be getting older too, definitely better in the brain compared to Biden, but I know a 98 year old grandma (not mine) that is smarter than Biden, so it is not really that weird.

That is why is preferable to go straight to summaries about the debate on YouTube instead of following it live on the night it takes place. I knew this was going to be a lackluster debate from the beginning, because how it was being picture by both political sides in the United States. It was not about actual politics or national policies, you know. It was rather a show to see who was going to glitch and commit a mistake first in front of the nation. Trump was allowed to say whatever he wanted in front of the camera, unchallenged and was not fact checking from Biden on those lies said by Trump whatsoever.

Also, the cognitive condition of someone in their 80s and 90s does not only depends on their age, it also depends on other things, like genes and lifestyle. There are relatively young people who have cognitive problems, because of things they could not control from the beginning, sadly.

I align with you 100% on this and indeed there is no politics here, it's plain, CNN was fair and those who are rating the Biden's performance low are right, it's obvious. The only issue is that, after the debate, many are now politicizing it which the Biden side are trying to downplay though. Well, the record is there, Biden is a huge force in the US political affairs and has worked perfectly in many sensitive capacities without scoring low like what happened in the debate but did excellently well. For this, any right-thinking person will know that age is surely telling, and this is not about comparing it with the issues that are possible also at the young age, such never happened when he was younger, so it can only be the age.

He also complained about a sour throat which I like to believe as well because I can decipher a slight change in his voice, something must have caused that. Regardless, we should not always look at the performance of debates like that, we should rather look at the ingenuity and commitment to do the right thing. Trump is a pathetic liar, he can't be trusted, and CNN, as usual, was able to fact-checked 30 lies from him within that short time, I wonder how many lies he would have told if given 24 hours, he lacks integrity. But on the part of Biden, they rather call his own 9 lies or misleading facts, which may either be true or overexaggerated. I think I see better integrity in one than the other and no matter what happens in debates, it doesn't necessarily means a true performs in the office.

[MarvinHagler]

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