⚽ FIFA Club World Cup 2025 - USA: Discussion Thread ⚽

[tsaroz]

in my opinion Fluminense can really give us a dream, I believe in these guys, as we could all imagine the teams that would have remained in the end would have been only the European ones and in fact that's how it was, they are currently the strongest teams around and the only one that can save us are the Brazilians the odds at 13 are not bad

I'd like to differ. It's true that Fluminense is the only non European team in the club world cup semifinals but they are not among the best teams even in Brazil. They just got lucky against Inter and faced an easier team Al-Hilal in quaterfinals.
Fluminense has been performing weak in Brazilian league, on ongoing season, they are down at number six, last season, they finished 13th and before that 7th. They don't have a strong result in the local league as well.
Chelsea in other hand is a rising team, they had a mediocre start of last season in premier league but they rose ahead at the season end to get a ticket to champions league. They also have got the easiest opponent in the semi finals in form of Fluminense.

[blomen]

Bookmakers still strongly believe that PSG will win this competition. But look at the difference in Madrid's odds, it's not too far from PSG. This means that Madrid still has a chance to beat PSG. In your opinion, who will advance to the final round? PSG? or Madrid? My choice is still Madrid. In terms of betting, I will choose BTTS to avoid the risk of unexpected surprises.

BTW, has anyone tried betting on Chelsea as the winner of this competition? 

psg seems to be the most likely team to win the cup, and i think that's true. real madrid vs psg is a really hard match to predict. i think it will be a high scoring match and will go to extra time and then penalty shootout.

it's very difficult to eliminate real madrid in extra time, we know that. in fact that's why it's difficult to make predictions. because even though psg seems to be the favorite, madrid has a very good history in the knockout rounds. to give a recent example, last season they eliminated atletico madrid 4-2 on penalties in the last 16 of the champions league. the season before that they eliminated manchester city in the quarterfinals of the champions league, also on penalties.

paris saint germain, in my opinion, can only win if they can win in normal time, in the first 90 minutes. after that they will have to show their skills in a place where real madrid has experience.

[Kaliandra]

now I want to discuss about the Fluminense vs Chelsea match, in your opinion who will potentially win in that match,,, of course Fluminense will use maximum strength to be able to defeat Chelsea as well as Chelsea who will use maximum strength to defeat Fluminense.

in the previous match Chelsea managed to defeat Palmeiras which is also from the Brazilian League like Fluminense and of course in my opinion if Chelsea can win against Fluminense of course it will make Chelsea able to win for the second time against a team from the Brazilian League. of course if I personally would choose to favor Chelsea to win in that match and my friends here also many who favor Chelsea to win because I see Chelsea's ball possession is always good and of course when Palmeiras vs Chelsea played well which finally made it difficult for Palmeiras to block Chelsea's continuous attacks and I believe this is an opportunity for Chelsea to play better and win the match which finally advanced to the final.

[Sandra_hakeem]

It was a good game and a well deserved win for Madrid. Looks like we got a new golden striker, Gonzalez Garcia. What an impressive performance from the 21 year-old Spanish -- the fact that he had to move around frequently in the box, in expectancy of any cross from Vini or Arda, yet he avoided getting himself into an offside position is classy for a player of his age.

I hear a lot of naysayers constantly talking about football to not produce anymore brilliant talents, but all I do is laugh it away cause everyday, it seems like the more they're still in doubt, the more scouters discover and raise a dozen of them from the academy. Although he's giving me Gareth bale vibes, I think if he's consistent enough, that's just what the team needs.

[Inwestour]

It was a good game and a well deserved win for Madrid. Looks like we got a new golden striker, Gonzalez Garcia. What an impressive performance from the 21 year-old Spanish -- the fact that he had to move around frequently in the box, in expectancy of any cross from Vini or Arda, yet he avoided getting himself into an offside position is classy for a player of his age.

I hear a lot of naysayers constantly talking about football to not produce anymore brilliant talents, but all I do is laugh it away cause everyday, it seems like the more they're still in doubt, the more scouters discover and raise a dozen of them from the academy. Although he's giving me Gareth bale vibes, I think if he's consistent enough, that's just what the team needs.

Yes, it was a good game for Real, and I see that Arda is showing himself very well in these games. But as far as I remember, every time Ancelotti gave him a chance, he made good use of it. However, despite that, he still did not get a place in the starting lineup. Maybe under Alonso he will have more opportunities. And of course, the biggest discovery of this tournament for me personally was Garcia. I think that with such scoring form, when he scores in almost every match, he will definitely have a chance under Alonso to start in a few matches of the new season. And then everything will be in his hands.

[bitzizzix]

in my opinion Fluminense can really give us a dream, I believe in these guys, as we could all imagine the teams that would have remained in the end would have been only the European ones and in fact that's how it was, they are currently the strongest teams around and the only one that can save us are the Brazilians the odds at 13 are not bad

Fluminense vs Chelsea is a match that brings together the European power with the South American tradition and spirit of Brazil, Fluminense has a solid defense and they have a high spirit in this competition, but I think Chelsea is much better and their performance continues to improve and their experience in the European league is much more challenging than Fluminense and that makes Chelsea more favored in this match. But this can be an interesting match with different styles, and I think Fluminense's journey to the final will stop here and we will see.

[mv1986]

Bookmakers still strongly believe that PSG will win this competition. But look at the difference in Madrid's odds, it's not too far from PSG. This means that Madrid still has a chance to beat PSG. In your opinion, who will advance to the final round? PSG? or Madrid? My choice is still Madrid. In terms of betting, I will choose BTTS to avoid the risk of unexpected surprises.

BTW, has anyone tried betting on Chelsea as the winner of this competition? 

psg seems to be the most likely team to win the cup, and i think that's true. real madrid vs psg is a really hard match to predict. i think it will be a high scoring match and will go to extra time and then penalty shootout.

it's very difficult to eliminate real madrid in extra time, we know that. in fact that's why it's difficult to make predictions. because even though psg seems to be the favorite, madrid has a very good history in the knockout rounds. to give a recent example, last season they eliminated atletico madrid 4-2 on penalties in the last 16 of the champions league. the season before that they eliminated manchester city in the quarterfinals of the champions league, also on penalties.

paris saint germain, in my opinion, can only win if they can win in normal time, in the first 90 minutes. after that they will have to show their skills in a place where real madrid has experience.

I don't know how you come up with that idea that PSG can't win in overtime. It is an opinion you say, wondering what that opinion is based on. A small disadvantage I see for PSG is that they lost two players which otherwise would play. Pacho played most games and Hernandez was an important option for Enrique, now they have to get along without them but when you see their player names, this shouldn't be a big problem for them.

Real Madrid was almost forced into overtime against Dortmund. Anyone who saw the chance that Sabitzer had and how centimetres decided that the ball did not go into the back of the net, my opinion is that Real Madrid first has to try to get into overtime and not the other way around.

[Luzin]

I feel quite a pang when watching the video of Jamal Musiala's injury. Maybe most people blame Donnarumma for being aggressive, but I see this as a risk of playing football. There are unpredictable events, everything has happened, and last I heard, Musiala might not be able to play football in the upcoming season.

This situation certainly serves as a reminder that preseason tournaments carry significant risks and benefits. So it seems that FIFA or the clubs invited should reconsider this competition for next year because of this situation. For Musiala, at his young age, he can recover fully and not lose his touch with playing football.

[blomen]

I don't know how you come up with that idea that PSG can't win in overtime. It is an opinion you say, wondering what that opinion is based on. A small disadvantage I see for PSG is that they lost two players which otherwise would play. Pacho played most games and Hernandez was an important option for Enrique, now they have to get along without them but when you see their player names, this shouldn't be a big problem for them.

Real Madrid was almost forced into overtime against Dortmund. Anyone who saw the chance that Sabitzer had and how centimetres decided that the ball did not go into the back of the net, my opinion is that Real Madrid first has to try to get into overtime and not the other way around.

what i mean is that real madrid almost always win in these kinds of tournaments in matches that go to extra time or penalty shootouts after a draw. if you look at the stats you will understand what i mean. real madrid is very good at this. let's say in their match against psg the 90 minutes ended in a draw with a score like 2-2 or 3-3. then they will probably manage to be the team that goes to the final either in extra time or in penalty shootouts.

[boltz]

I don't know how you come up with that idea that PSG can't win in overtime. It is an opinion you say, wondering what that opinion is based on. A small disadvantage I see for PSG is that they lost two players which otherwise would play. Pacho played most games and Hernandez was an important option for Enrique, now they have to get along without them but when you see their player names, this shouldn't be a big problem for them.

Real Madrid was almost forced into overtime against Dortmund. Anyone who saw the chance that Sabitzer had and how centimetres decided that the ball did not go into the back of the net, my opinion is that Real Madrid first has to try to get into overtime and not the other way around.

what i mean is that real madrid almost always win in these kinds of tournaments in matches that go to extra time or penalty shootouts after a draw. if you look at the stats you will understand what i mean. real madrid is very good at this. let's say in their match against psg the 90 minutes ended in a draw with a score like 2-2 or 3-3. then they will probably manage to be the team that goes to the final either in extra time or in penalty shootouts.

Real won't win anything this year no matter how hard they try and besides that , no one is beating PSG in their current form no matter how hard they try.

In my opinion , PSG will have an easy game against Real and will qualify further. The only thing that can happen badly for PSG is for Real to push the game in extra time or even penalties where we all know they are kinda deadly. 

[Cityhunter34]

Normally as is stance now PSG still remains the favorite team in this Club World Cup, so everything is quite possible to happen in this semifinal. Although sometimes football is unpredictable more especially in this stage of going to final, no team should be underated because what Real Madrid played against other teams in the beginning most not going to be what they would play with PSG.

This is a semi-final full of unpredictable outcome. Madrid is a bit balanced now compared to last season, although PSG looks like the favourite due to their outstanding performance in the just concluded champions league. I just feel  Xavi Alonso will do his best to win this has his first trophy in Madrid. If PSG must go beyond the semi finals then it will cost them a game beyond skills but extreme determination.

You are absolutely right, the Full time result or score can not be predicted easily and the winner of the match is not even known for now because PSG has proven themselves over and over again last season and they are still operating in that high frequency but Real Madrid is not a child's club, is a club full of wonders and surprises and so no matter how strong or inform PSG is they will fight it on the pitch that day and people who luck is on their side will come out as winners that faithful day and it can be any of them but right now I don't know who to even call favorite because both team is currently okay and balanced as it stands, I will just anticipate till that day.

Obviously, both teams performances seems quite the same, and even though a semifinal in that matter. Of course it will definitely going to be a must win for either PSG or Real Madrid comes that faithful day. So is not something to worry about, that is the beauty of football more especially in this stage of semifinal. However, to be honest this game seems quite like a final to me because among the four teams that went to the semifinal this two clubs are the most strongest. So everything is quite possible to happen in this game.

[Danica22]

in my opinion Fluminense can really give us a dream, I believe in these guys, as we could all imagine the teams that would have remained in the end would have been only the European ones and in fact that's how it was, they are currently the strongest teams around and the only one that can save us are the Brazilians the odds at 13 are not bad

The fluminense team is small. No star player. Even then Fluminense is performing well. Players, especially, are very confident. So defeating this team will not be easy for Chelsea. We also saw the performance of Fluminense's boys against Inter Milan. Inter Milan can score any goals against this team. Was defeated in 2-1. So the chances of Chelsea will have an easy win. Chelsea have qualified for the semi -finals, but no big team is now facing Chelsea. Chelsea have been able to continue the win against medium quality teams. Chelsea is looking forward to seeing it against Fluminense

[mv1986]

I don't know how you come up with that idea that PSG can't win in overtime. It is an opinion you say, wondering what that opinion is based on. A small disadvantage I see for PSG is that they lost two players which otherwise would play. Pacho played most games and Hernandez was an important option for Enrique, now they have to get along without them but when you see their player names, this shouldn't be a big problem for them.

Real Madrid was almost forced into overtime against Dortmund. Anyone who saw the chance that Sabitzer had and how centimetres decided that the ball did not go into the back of the net, my opinion is that Real Madrid first has to try to get into overtime and not the other way around.

what i mean is that real madrid almost always win in these kinds of tournaments in matches that go to extra time or penalty shootouts after a draw. if you look at the stats you will understand what i mean. real madrid is very good at this. let's say in their match against psg the 90 minutes ended in a draw with a score like 2-2 or 3-3. then they will probably manage to be the team that goes to the final either in extra time or in penalty shootouts.

It's not 90%, it is not 80% it is not 70% of the games that Real Madrid wins in extra time when you take games from the last decade or so into accounts. It is correct that they won many of them, but you have to see against whom and under which circumstances. When you toss a coin, you can have five tails in a row. It is not that Real Madrid was the deserved winner in all these matches.

They have only recently lost their game in extra time against Barcelona and PSG is in great shape, history won't count and this PSG team has now done what was said to be impossible for them for a long time. They won the Champions League final without any issues. The times are over that they fear big teams. Extra time is a 50-50 issue in my opinion.

[Akbarkoe]

in my opinion Fluminense can really give us a dream, I believe in these guys, as we could all imagine the teams that would have remained in the end would have been only the European ones and in fact that's how it was, they are currently the strongest teams around and the only one that can save us are the Brazilians the odds at 13 are not bad

The fluminense team is small. No star player. Even then Fluminense is performing well. Players, especially, are very confident. So defeating this team will not be easy for Chelsea. We also saw the performance of Fluminense's boys against Inter Milan. Inter Milan can score any goals against this team. Was defeated in 2-1. So the chances of Chelsea will have an easy win. Chelsea have qualified for the semi -finals, but no big team is now facing Chelsea. Chelsea have been able to continue the win against medium quality teams. Chelsea is looking forward to seeing it against Fluminense

Fluminense may not be a star-studded team, but they are one of the best clubs in the Brazilian Serie A and have been quite successful in producing many top players who have become stars in Europe. And one of them is Marcelo, Thiago Silva and many other players that I cannot mention one by one.

Currently, Fluminense is still a top Brazilian team and they are also the only Brazilian club that has been able to reach the semifinals. However, seeing how Chelsea managed to beat Palmeras who is also one of the top Brazilian clubs, at least this makes Fluminense's chances of winning quite slim.

But what is quite interesting is that this is the first time Chelsea Fluminense have met, so I cannot give a more accurate assessment of the match between the two teams in the semifinals later.

[Frankolala]

in my opinion Fluminense can really give us a dream, I believe in these guys, as we could all imagine the teams that would have remained in the end would have been only the European ones and in fact that's how it was, they are currently the strongest teams around and the only one that can save us are the Brazilians the odds at 13 are not bad

Football is full of surprises, and I wouldn't be surprised if I see Fluminense in the finals. They have proven themselves to be a quality club and they are also desperate to win this competition. Brazil is a country that has a good record in football, and it will be a shock to me if none of the European club is able to win this competition.

[Lannakosa]

Obviously, both teams performances seems quite the same, and even though a semifinal in that matter. Of course it will definitely going to be a must win for either PSG or Real Madrid comes that faithful day. So is not something to worry about, that is the beauty of football more especially in this stage of semifinal. However, to be honest this game seems quite like a final to me because among the four teams that went to the semifinal this two clubs are the most strongest. So everything is quite possible to happen in this game.

I also believe that the winner of this semifinal will deserve to become the champion of this tournament. Essentially, these are the two strongest teams left, with Chelsea clearly weaker than them. Although Real has become stronger, they have worked well in the transfer market and even involved Garcia from the youth team. So far Alonso is doing very well. But they have not yet played against a strong team like PSG. This semifinal will be very telling in showing how capable they are now of standing up to a team of that level.

[Arenga pinnata]

in my opinion Fluminense can really give us a dream, I believe in these guys, as we could all imagine the teams that would have remained in the end would have been only the European ones and in fact that's how it was, they are currently the strongest teams around and the only one that can save us are the Brazilians the odds at 13 are not bad

It is very possible that Fluminense will be able to continue its steps towards the final stage. Because they have also done it before. But Enzo Maresca's team will definitely make the match fierce and make it difficult for Fluminense. And I think now many people are starting to put their trust in Fluminense. But yeah let's just see what happens.

The other match, namely the PSG vs Real Madrid match, also looks like it will be a match that is difficult to predict. But if we look at the head to head of these two teams then it seems that it can also make us think that PSG is very likely to win. Because even head to head, no one really dominates. Real Madrid may be slightly superior. But that was when Real Madrid was at its best. Meanwhile, we can't actually say that Real Madrid is currently at its peak performance. Meanwhile, PSG is in peak performance.

[X-ray]

now I want to discuss about the Fluminense vs Chelsea match, in your opinion who will potentially win in that match,,, of course Fluminense will use maximum strength to be able to defeat Chelsea as well as Chelsea who will use maximum strength to defeat Fluminense.

in the previous match Chelsea managed to defeat Palmeiras which is also from the Brazilian League like Fluminense and of course in my opinion if Chelsea can win against Fluminense of course it will make Chelsea able to win for the second time against a team from the Brazilian League. of course if I personally would choose to favor Chelsea to win in that match and my friends here also many who favor Chelsea to win because I see Chelsea's ball possession is always good and of course when Palmeiras vs Chelsea played well which finally made it difficult for Palmeiras to block Chelsea's continuous attacks and I believe this is an opportunity for Chelsea to play better and win the match which finally advanced to the final.

Fully believing in Chelsea to win the game, not by a lot of goals, but narrow score is enough. They have quality, chemistry, and pretty good defense at this moment. However, i recall how their opponent, Fluminense is also a solid team, though has so many old players.

Feeling so confidence with the odds given by the bookies. Getting 1.69 multiplier for ma money is enough.

[Razmirraz]

in my opinion Fluminense can really give us a dream, I believe in these guys, as we could all imagine the teams that would have remained in the end would have been only the European ones and in fact that's how it was, they are currently the strongest teams around and the only one that can save us are the Brazilians the odds at 13 are not bad

Fluminense managed to cause a surprise in the Club World Cup, but I don't see them making it to the final easily. Also, I really hope Chelsea who make it to the final can give a serious fight to PSG or Real Madrid. We can see how the quality of European teams differs from other continents, PSG has reached the peak of its performance since being handled by Luis Enrique, Real Madrid has also started to show significant development since being coached by Xabi Alonso. In my opinion, one of these teams (Real Madrid or PSG) will win this trophy.
 

[KTChampions]

Fifa is trying to sell the Club World Cup as a success and states that an average of 35,000 fans watch the games and maybe that is a success for the USA, but in Europe the stadiums are sold out for CL games and 35,000 fans are actually not a lot, we probably have more fans in the stadions on average per match in the top leagues.

I also think the Club World Cup is unnecessary and haven't watched a single game yet.

It will be interesting to see the overall statistics when the tournament is over. It is clear that the Americans are not very interested in the games, but now the main thing is the interest of the online audience, if it is high, then the tournament can be considered successful. At the moment, it is obvious that the group stage is of no interest to almost anyone, but the same situation is now in all other tournaments (or tends to be) including the Champions League.