⚽ FIFA Club World Cup 2025 - USA: Discussion Thread ⚽

[Pumared]

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Bookmakers still strongly believe that PSG will win this competition. But look at the difference in Madrid's odds, it's not too far from PSG. This means that Madrid still has a chance to beat PSG. In your opinion, who will advance to the final round? PSG? or Madrid? My choice is still Madrid. In terms of betting, I will choose BTTS to avoid the risk of unexpected surprises.

BTW, has anyone tried betting on Chelsea as the winner of this competition?  

I'm not a fan of outright markets, that's why I never place bets on them like this one. But if you ask me, the best team to bet on is Chelsea as of the moment, because I think it's obvious they'll reach the finals. Unlike the PSG vs. Real Madrid matchup, which is hard to predict either team could make it.

I watched all the quarterfinal games and I can say that Chelsea has a good chance of beating either PSG or Real Madrid.

The Chelsea match is definitely the favorite, but Fluminense have been dangerous throughout the championship, so I wouldn't miss them. For this match, I prefer to watch the start of the game so I can understand what will be done and have a broader view. Deciding something a day in advance is very dangerous.

[Iranus]

There is no guarantee about Chelsea reaching the finals, everything is just speculation based on available information. Chelsea indeed seems to be the favorite to win Fluminense, although it is not guaranteed as it is obvious that Fluminense have the quality of players to defeat Chelsea as well. The same can be said about PSG vs Real Madrid because any of them can indeed win the match. What we are simply looking at is the probabilities for the various teams winning their matches and base on the performance of the teams, Chelsea and PSG seems to be the favorite for the final.

Agree. I don't see any reason to consider chelsea as too strong. We have seen  many times in the last season that the team failed to play well against smaller teams. In the semi- finals , Chelsea will face a team whose performance  surprised us all.

Fluminense, despite being a small team , is playing well in the fifa club World cup . Fluminense has defeated strong teams like Al Hilal and Inter Milan in the knockout rounds. The team shared points with dortmund in the group stage. On the other hand, Chelsea has not faced any strong team so far. Chelsea even lost 3-1 against Flamengo in the group stage. So even though chelsea is a renowned team, they have a big chance of being defeated.

[cxtreenal]

There is very little time left for the final match to be played on July 13th. Two of these four teams were predictable teams. I think everyone guessed Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Fluminense was a big surprise. Especially their wins over Al Hilal and Inter showed us that they are also surprise favorites. I think they have the potential to do everything and reach the final in the match they will play against Chelsea right now. However, I still think that the winner of Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain can win this cup.

All the speculations have started around the Real Madrid team, I would have been in their favor too, but still I love the team for Mbappe because of his fast football and his strong will to score goals. We missed him in the opening match of the Club World Cup, but he came back and scored a valuable goal against Dortmund. Considering his illness, he should play full time in the semi-final match so that Real Madrid can reach the final.

[snipie]

Agree. I don't see any reason to consider chelsea as too strong. We have seen  many times in the last season that the team failed to play well against smaller teams. In the semi- finals , Chelsea will face a team whose performance  surprised us all.

Chelsea couldn't be seen as a very strong team obviously because its record in domestic and international competitions and the team's results were always fluctuating.
Fluminense is just being seen as a weaker team in a lower league, otherwise they have the chance to overtake Chelsea like their own Brazilian rival in the group stage.
Personally I am going with Chelsea victory whether in the main time or after extension to penalties.

[virasog]

There is very little time left for the final match to be played on July 13th. Two of these four teams were predictable teams. I think everyone guessed Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Fluminense was a big surprise. Especially their wins over Al Hilal and Inter showed us that they are also surprise favorites. I think they have the potential to do everything and reach the final in the match they will play against Chelsea right now. However, I still think that the winner of Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain can win this cup.

Well final match is not so near as first we have the two semi final match and they would be good to watch. I think Chelsea and Real Madrid should win their respective matches but i would not underestimate the Fluminense and PSG teams respectively.

Fluminense is lucky to be in the semi but i don't think they can beat to Chelsea in the next match.
For the other semi final, PSG defeated Bayern Munich convincingly however the only concern for them is that they got two red cards in that match. Hernandez and  Pacho got those red card, so maybe they will not be able to play the semi final. This may be a big setback for them but still it won't be an easy game for Real Madrid.

[DaNNy001]

There is very little time left for the final match to be played on July 13th. Two of these four teams were predictable teams. I think everyone guessed Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Fluminense was a big surprise. Especially their wins over Al Hilal and Inter showed us that they are also surprise favorites. I think they have the potential to do everything and reach the final in the match they will play against Chelsea right now. However, I still think that the winner of Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain can win this cup.

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Fluminense is lucky to be in the semi but i don't think they can beat to Chelsea in the next match.
For the other semi final, PSG defeated Bayern Munich convincingly however the only concern for them is that they got two red cards in that match. Hernandez and  Pacho got those red card, so maybe they will not be able to play the semi final. This may be a big setback for them but still it won't be an easy game for Real Madrid.

Hmm, I think now that you have pointed that out, I think I will have to rethink my selection of that game because I predicted both PSG and Chelsea to win which on paper and a normal day are the teams with more favourable odds but this eye opening point of yours is really something to consider because Real Madrid on one hand aren't any small team to overlook and now having two red cards with the absence of those player will indeed cause some damage for PSG.

[free-bit.co.in]

Yes, the match will certainly present a prestigious match, both of them will definitely not give in, especially PSG who certainly have a deep grudge against Real Madrid, but we'll see who will win because their reputations are equally high at this time, Real Madrid is also in the process of adapting to a new coach and Xabi Alonso will try hard to think of the right strategy to beat PSG.

The FIFA Club is not considering the World Cup title very seriously. However PSG aren't behaving toward this Club World Cup as a sideshow, they're going all in under Luis Enrique. You know they've thrashed big teams like Bayern with nine men, be visible psychological flexibility and tactical sharpness even while resting major performer. Xabi Alonso’s Madrid have appeared stubborn but are hush experimenting. So It could be anyone's game, but Enrique's consistency provides PSG with the edge in my book. Hopefully Enrique will try the best to win in the match.

[SmartCharpa]

There is very little time left for the final match to be played on July 13th. Two of these four teams were predictable teams. I think everyone guessed Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Fluminense was a big surprise. Especially their wins over Al Hilal and Inter showed us that they are also surprise favorites. I think they have the potential to do everything and reach the final in the match they will play against Chelsea right now. However, I still think that the winner of Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain can win this cup.

It was a surprising result starting with the game against Inter Milan, everyone expected Inter Milan to win the match, but Fluminense surprised us by scoring two goals and advancing to the quarterfinals, the same thing happened with the match against Al Hilal, Al Hilal was able to eliminate Manchester City, and we all assumed that with the performance they showed, they have the strength to make it to the final, but Fluminense ended their journey, and now they will face Chelsea.

Furthermore, my question is, can Chelsea defeat Fluminense tomorrow? I'm starting to wonder about Chelsea chance to defeat Fluminense since this team has been doing well since the round of 16, defeating Inter Milan and Al Hilal and now Chelsea. I agree with you that the winner of Real Madrid match vs Paris Saint-Germain will win this tournament since they have more quality players, despite that many people believe that Chelsea will lift the trophy.

[noormcs5]

Furthermore, my question is, can Chelsea defeat Fluminense tomorrow? I'm starting to wonder about Chelsea chance to defeat Fluminense since this team has been doing well since the round of 16, defeating Inter Milan and Al Hilal and now Chelsea. I agree with you that the winner of Real Madrid match vs Paris Saint-Germain will win this tournament since they have more quality players, despite that many people believe that Chelsea will lift the trophy.

Well, there may be one chance for Chelsea to lift the trophy, first they beat Fluminense  in the semi-final (that should be on the cards) and if somehow Real Madrid comes in the final after beating PSG, they may stand a chance against them. However, i do think that PSG is a very strong team and you can call them underdog too. If they are able to beat Real Madrid, for sure they will have a chance again Chelsea or Fluminense in the final. Remember Paris Saint-Germain topped in group B.

[Majestic-milf]

 I will not be surprised if at the end of the day it is the Brazilian club, Fluminese that would emerge the winners of the competition. Sometimes it's the team no one gives much attention to that would end up surprising everyone. So far, of the four teams that are in the semi's, it's only PSG and Chelsea that have lost in this tournament and although I respect the resilience of Real Madrid, I don't think they would be able to withstand the pressure that PSG carries.

I don't think that Chelsea will want to underestimate Fluminese like they did Flamengo because this is a very crucial period in the tournament and any mistake could send them packing. They have met two Brazilian teams before; Flamengo and Palmeiras. Flamengo defeated them but they were able to oust Palmeiras so one can say they have had their taste of Brazilian teams well enough to be able to know how to beat their upcoming opponents, Fluminese but I still have the belief that they may not find it as easy a thing to do when they meet tomorrow.

[Fuso.hp]

Bookmakers still strongly believe that PSG will win this competition. But look at the difference in Madrid's odds, it's not too far from PSG. This means that Madrid still has a chance to beat PSG. In your opinion, who will advance to the final round? PSG? or Madrid? My choice is still Madrid. In terms of betting, I will choose BTTS to avoid the risk of unexpected surprises.

BTW, has anyone tried betting on Chelsea as the winner of this competition?  

The bookies seem to still favor PSG to win and they give bigger prizes for those who bet on Real Madrid. But if I were would bet on PSG's victory because I'm sure Luis Enrique will try to make a better strategy for the semifinal match against Real Madrid and I think PSG's attack is more dangerous than Real Madrid's attack. So I think PSG will be able to advance to the final. The Real Madrid vs PSG match is actually very difficult to predict and if you want BTTS, there's nothing wrong with that and actually if you bet with a large capital, BTTS is very suitable, but for me, I'm not brave enough for BTTS because I'm more comfortable with normal because my capital is small. 

I will bet on Chelsea's victory in the Chelsea vs Fluminense match because I think Chelsea will win the match. But it is actually very difficult to predict who will win the Chelsea vs Fluminense match, but I prefer Chelsea because I think Chelsea has a superior strength than Fluminense. Let's see if we will be lucky in betting or not in the semifinal match.

PSG face another big hurdle and this could be their toughest opponent in the tournament. If PSG can beat Real Madrid, they will be assured of the Club World Cup trophy because it will be easy to beat any of the other two teams that will face each other in the semi-finals if they qualify for the final. We saw a lot of excitement and unexpected events in the match between Bayern Munich and PSG, but the result came out in which PSG defeated Bayern Munich 2-0 in the end. Although Real Madrid's test is much tougher for PSG, PSG are in the best form so far, so they have the ability to beat any team while they are in this form. Since PSG's opponent is Real Madrid, I don't really want to bet on any team in this match because it is difficult to predict when the result will go in their favor.

[Gost ms]

Agree. I don't see any reason to consider chelsea as too strong. We have seen  many times in the last season that the team failed to play well against smaller teams. In the semi- finals , Chelsea will face a team whose performance  surprised us all.

Fluminense, despite being a small team , is playing well in the fifa club World cup . Fluminense has defeated strong teams like Al Hilal and Inter Milan in the knockout rounds. The team shared points with dortmund in the group stage. On the other hand, Chelsea has not faced any strong team so far. Chelsea even lost 3-1 against Flamengo in the group stage. So even though chelsea is a renowned team, they have a big chance of being defeated.

Yes you are right if someone ignores Fluminense maybe it will be very foolish for them. Because Fluminense is playing very well at the moment and they are in very good form. Although Fluminense is a much smaller team compared to Chelsea but with the performance Fluminense is currently in, it will be very difficult for Chelsea to beat Fluminense. We have seen how Fluminense has beaten its opponents and come this far. When playing with Al Hilal and Fluminense I thought that maybe it will not be a very competitive game and Fluminense will lose to Al Hilal very easily. But we all know what happened in the middle of the match.

[GiftedMAN]

Furthermore, my question is, can Chelsea defeat Fluminense tomorrow? I'm starting to wonder about Chelsea chance to defeat Fluminense since this team has been doing well since the round of 16, defeating Inter Milan and Al Hilal and now Chelsea. I agree with you that the winner of Real Madrid match vs Paris Saint-Germain will win this tournament since they have more quality players, despite that many people believe that Chelsea will lift the trophy.

Well, there may be one chance for Chelsea to lift the trophy, first they beat Fluminense  in the semi-final (that should be on the cards) and if somehow Real Madrid comes in the final after beating PSG, they may stand a chance against them. However, i do think that PSG is a very strong team and you can call them underdog too. If they are able to beat Real Madrid, for sure they will have a chance again Chelsea or Fluminense in the final. Remember Paris Saint-Germain topped in group B.

Chelsea may have one big game before the finals which is their game against Fluminense I think they have to be at them first before thinking about the finals and who they will be meeting between Real Madrid and PSG. Right now, Real Madrid team PSG may have equal strength due to the current form of PSG team and it any one among team meets Chelsea in the finals I see Chelsea becoming the underdog team among them.

[Despairo]

Yes you are right if someone ignores Fluminense maybe it will be very foolish for them. Because Fluminense is playing very well at the moment and they are in very good form. Although Fluminense is a much smaller team compared to Chelsea but with the performance Fluminense is currently in, it will be very difficult for Chelsea to beat Fluminense. We have seen how Fluminense has beaten its opponents and come this far. When playing with Al Hilal and Fluminense I thought that maybe it will not be a very competitive game and Fluminense will lose to Al Hilal very easily. But we all know what happened in the middle of the match.

Fluminense might have a chance to beat Chelsea, we know Chelsea aren't that strong compared to Real Madrid and PSG. But yeah, I don't see anything wrong to bet Fluminense to win in the upcoming match, if they can beat bigger teams, Chelsea could be one of them.

But, if we compare Fluminense with PSG or Real Madrid, they're already on different level.

[Sexylizzy2813]

I will not be surprised if at the end of the day it is the Brazilian club, Fluminese that would emerge the winners of the competition. Sometimes it's the team no one gives much attention to that would end up surprising everyone. So far, of the four teams that are in the semi's, it's only PSG and Chelsea that have lost in this tournament and although I respect the resilience of Real Madrid, I don't think they would be able to withstand the pressure that PSG carries.

Some Chelsea fans if not all will not be happy about my wish for the Blues, I'd not like to see Chelsea at the finals or even winning the trophy but they are always getting things right or should I say lucky by advancing to the next stage of the competition. Playing Fluminese can still be like every other Brazilian teams they played against Chelsea in this competition, always winning them. For me the Blues are some how lucky to go through and tomorrow it can happen again for them to win Fluminese, which I definitely don't want to happen. And do you know how long I have been paying the teams that the Blues have played much attention just to see them advance but is like they are not destined to go far, maybe Fluminese might do something different, being knocked out by Chelsea.
When it comes to PSG and Madrid I feel the game will be very tough and like you said about Madrid if they can withstand the pressure, that's how it will be for the Madrid players to be stressed out but my fear is at the end after these pressure on Madrid they'll still find a way to go into the finals, it can happen.

[Callido]

Hmm, I think now that you have pointed that out, I think I will have to rethink my selection of that game because I predicted both PSG and Chelsea to win which on paper and a normal day are the teams with more favourable odds but this eye opening point of yours is really something to consider because Real Madrid on one hand aren't any small team to overlook and now having two red cards with the absence of those player will indeed cause some damage for PSG.

Chelsea hasn't played quite enough to prove they can defeat Fluminense, Chelsea defeated average teams and advanced until the semi final, no true opponent, all through they struggled against teams that are supposed to be a minor. Chelsea will have a hard time defeating Fluminense, lets not forget that Fluminense defeated Al Hilal that eliminated Real Madrid and Manchester City, teams that Chelsea are unable to defeat using recent performance.

Fluminense and PSG are the favorites to play in the final of Club World Cup.

[Nheer]

There is very little time left for the final match to be played on July 13th. Two of these four teams were predictable teams. I think everyone guessed Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Fluminense was a big surprise. Especially their wins over Al Hilal and Inter showed us that they are also surprise favorites. I think they have the potential to do everything and reach the final in the match they will play against Chelsea right now. However, I still think that the winner of Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain can win this cup.

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Fluminense is lucky to be in the semi but i don't think they can beat to Chelsea in the next match.
For the other semi final, PSG defeated Bayern Munich convincingly however the only concern for them is that they got two red cards in that match. Hernandez and  Pacho got those red card, so maybe they will not be able to play the semi final. This may be a big setback for them but still it won't be an easy game for Real Madrid.

Hmm, I think now that you have pointed that out, I think I will have to rethink my selection of that game because I predicted both PSG and Chelsea to win which on paper and a normal day are the teams with more favourable odds but this eye opening point of yours is really something to consider because Real Madrid on one hand aren't any small team to overlook and now having two red cards with the absence of those player will indeed cause some damage for PSG.

Wow you easily favoured PSG against Real Madrid without properly thinking about the outcome of the game, I know PSG are in good form lately and of course they are the favorites to win the game if all conditions are good for both teams but looking at what happened in the previous game the red would definitely affect the performance of PSG, one red card would have been better but two is too much to handle. Although Hernandez is not a starter but they will have to replace Willian Pacho and hope the replacement gives them same balance as Pacho.

Real Madrid are not at their best performance yet but with Mbappe available now they can cause more damage. They also received a red card in their last match seeing Huijsen been sent off and now they also have to replace him, Militao is now available but pairing him with Rudiger will be a disaster.

It's almost even but I still think you should be careful with your prediction in this game because anything can happen and Real Madrid can also win. I'd rather go for BTS option than predict a winner in this game.

[Phoenix Anka]

There is very little time left for the final match to be played on July 13th. Two of these four teams were predictable teams. I think everyone guessed Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Fluminense was a big surprise. Especially their wins over Al Hilal and Inter showed us that they are also surprise favorites. I think they have the potential to do everything and reach the final in the match they will play against Chelsea right now. However, I still think that the winner of Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain can win this cup.

All the speculations have started around the Real Madrid team, I would have been in their favor too, but still I love the team for Mbappe because of his fast football and his strong will to score goals. We missed him in the opening match of the Club World Cup, but he came back and scored a valuable goal against Dortmund. Considering his illness, he should play full time in the semi-final match so that Real Madrid can reach the final.

I don't think Xabi will risk him. He can still put Mbappé on in the second half. Also, young player Gonzalo has managed this deficiency very well so far. I'm sure Xabi has some thoughts on this issue. Because the Paris Saint-Germain match will never be easy. Mbappé who can enter the game in the second half and tear apart the tired defense can be more effective. Also, as you said, he hasn't fully recovered from his illness, so he may not play the full 90 minutes. Considering the possibility of the game going to extra time, I think it would be more logical for him to enter the game in the second half.

[jaberwock]

Fluminense vs Chelsea is a match that brings together the European power with the South American tradition and spirit of Brazil, Fluminense has a solid defense and they have a high spirit in this competition, but I think Chelsea is much better and their performance continues to improve and their experience in the European league is much more challenging than Fluminense and that makes Chelsea more favored in this match. But this can be an interesting match with different styles, and I think Fluminense's journey to the final will stop here and we will see.

Up until now, we have seen the battle and seems like Fluminense did an alright job, Latin American teams did an alright job, but that was to a point. Even though there were some good games, this is semi finals and there is no returning back from here.

Two more wins and you become the champion so it is obvious we are going to see Chelsea play a lot more seriously and we are going to see them win this game quite easily. I know that doesn't always feel like the best strategy to everyone, but that doesn't mean we are going to see them have some sort of trouble or difference. What we need right now is to make sure we can do a better job for the long term, and for that reason we need to focus on Chelsea betting with even a good gap maybe.

[Adiljutt156]

now I want to discuss about the Fluminense vs Chelsea match, in your opinion who will potentially win in that match,,, of course Fluminense will use maximum strength to be able to defeat Chelsea as well as Chelsea who will use maximum strength to defeat Fluminense.

in the previous match Chelsea managed to defeat Palmeiras which is also from the Brazilian League like Fluminense and of course in my opinion if Chelsea can win against Fluminense of course it will make Chelsea able to win for the second time against a team from the Brazilian League. of course if I personally would choose to favor Chelsea to win in that match and my friends here also many who favor Chelsea to win because I see Chelsea's ball possession is always good and of course when Palmeiras vs Chelsea played well which finally made it difficult for Palmeiras to block Chelsea's continuous attacks and I believe this is an opportunity for Chelsea to play better and win the match which finally advanced to the final.

Fluminense football team is ready to play the semi final against Chelsea football team. Both teams will play semi final against each other and both teams are doing well in performance Because both teams have excellent players who will play in different situations. Chelsea team has more love of fans and that team will give more performance to win this match and I also like that team sg and I want win of that team. But any team could win this match because players can perform well in different halves and we know there are two halves in this match.