⚽ FIFA Club World Cup 2025 - USA: Discussion Thread ⚽

[Lafu]

Fluminense football team is ready to play the semi final against Chelsea football team. Both teams will play semi final against each other and both teams are doing well in performance.

I am really surprised how good and far that Fluminense are has gone and get , yes they are playing very well and good.
I am surprised about Fluminense but i guess that against Chelsea it will be over for them , all others would be a very big surprise.

Wow you easily favoured PSG against Real Madrid without properly thinking about the outcome of the game, I know PSG are in good form lately

To be honest at the moment i would say that PSG is the only Team that can make it against Real Madrid with all that Players.
On top of that you see that they really playing as an Team.
For me i think that PSG will make it against Real , but if Madrid has an good day they can win that easy.

[Silence Scream]

now I want to discuss about the Fluminense vs Chelsea match, in your opinion who will potentially win in that match,,, of course Fluminense will use maximum strength to be able to defeat Chelsea as well as Chelsea who will use maximum strength to defeat Fluminense.

in the previous match Chelsea managed to defeat Palmeiras which is also from the Brazilian League like Fluminense and of course in my opinion if Chelsea can win against Fluminense of course it will make Chelsea able to win for the second time against a team from the Brazilian League. of course if I personally would choose to favor Chelsea to win in that match and my friends here also many who favor Chelsea to win because I see Chelsea's ball possession is always good and of course when Palmeiras vs Chelsea played well which finally made it difficult for Palmeiras to block Chelsea's continuous attacks and I believe this is an opportunity for Chelsea to play better and win the match which finally advanced to the final.

Fluminense football team is ready to play the semi final against Chelsea football team. Both teams will play semi final against each other and both teams are doing well in performance Because both teams have excellent players who will play in different situations. Chelsea team has more love of fans and that team will give more performance to win this match and I also like that team sg and I want win of that team. But any team could win this match because players can perform well in different halves and we know there are two halves in this match.

If Fluminense had not eliminated Inter and Al Hilal, I would have easily said Chelsea would have won, but we are at such a level that both teams seem to have the same chance right now. The Brazilian team represents South America and they are playing with extra motivation in the Club World Cup. I believe they can eliminate Chelsea as well. I don't know who will win, but both teams seem to have an equal chance of advancing to the next round and the final. It looks like it will be a 50-50 match.

[HajiBagi]

There is very little time left for the final match to be played on July 13th. Two of these four teams were predictable teams. I think everyone guessed Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Fluminense was a big surprise. Especially their wins over Al Hilal and Inter showed us that they are also surprise favorites. I think they have the potential to do everything and reach the final in the match they will play against Chelsea right now. However, I still think that the winner of Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain can win this cup.

The winner between Real Madrid and PSG is the clear favourite to win the FIFA World Cup. Although Chelsea and Fluminense are still in the competition, those two teams do not stand a chance of defeating Real Madrid or PSG. Real Madrid and PSG have been facing strong opponents from the beginning of the competition, and that shows that they are the big teams in this competition. The game of Real Madrid vs. PSG will be the final of this competition because any team that wins the match will have a 70% chance of winning the trophy.

I have seen many Chelsea fans happy that they are the favourite to win the trophy, but I just see it as fun because they know that Chelsea cannot defeat Real Madrid or PSG, and for some people who think PSG is going to knock out Real Madrid easily, they should also know that Real Madrid knows how to play any competition, and when it comes to semi-final matches, Real Madrid always surprises people.

[SFR10]

Good news is that I also wagered on PSG (on a sperate ticket) to win... It's a peanut, but I'm glad it filled in for the other loss.

I'm also glad you were able to recoup your losses

When playing with Al Hilal and Fluminense I thought that maybe it will not be a very competitive game and Fluminense will lose to Al Hilal very easily. But we all know what happened in the middle of the match.

I had the same thought, but Al-Hilal suffered a lot by trying their best to defeat Man City in the round of 16 and Fluminense used that to their advantage... Despite knowing that Fluminense's 6th place finish in their league doesn't equate to how they've performed so far in this competition, I think they'll hit a roadblock and get eliminated by Chelsea.
^{- I'm predicting a 2-2 draw in full time and a 3-2 win for Chelsea in extra time.}

[Tmoonz]

in my opinion Fluminense can really give us a dream, I believe in these guys, as we could all imagine the teams that would have remained in the end would have been only the European ones and in fact that's how it was, they are currently the strongest teams around and the only one that can save us are the Brazilians the odds at 13 are not bad

I'd like to differ. It's true that Fluminense is the only non European team in the club world cup semifinals but they are not among the best teams even in Brazil. They just got lucky against Inter and faced an easier team Al-Hilal in quaterfinals.
Fluminense has been performing weak in Brazilian league, on ongoing season, they are down at number six, last season, they finished 13th and before that 7th. They don't have a strong result in the local league as well.
Chelsea in other hand is a rising team, they had a mediocre start of last season in premier league but they rose ahead at the season end to get a ticket to champions league. They also have got the easiest opponent in the semi finals in form of Fluminense.

I don't know how you guys see the game but to my own opinion fluminense can't stand a chance against Chelsea, they have done really good for themselves in This competition yes that's a fact we cannot deny but thinking they could win Chelsea hell no, one thing about Chelsea is they don't give room to any unknown team around the world to just come out and be at them just like that, no that's not the Chelsea I know, like when it comes to match outside EPL Chelsea don't always take it lightly, except they are on their worst form maybe, and the last time I checked Chelsea are still very much okay in this competition so far, so coming to tell me fluminense might win Chelsea is a capital no for me.

[Polkeins]

To be honest I didn't think that match between Real and Borussia match would be almost as tense as PSG Bayern and I thought that after 2:0 everything was over for Dortmund, but Borussia managed to score 2 goals and even when the score was 3:2 in the last seconds one of Borussia's players had a great shot from outside the box, but Courtois made a great save.
For Real Madrid fans it is still nice that Spanish players and students of the club started scoring and to be honest it is still unclear why Alonso still puts Vinicius in the lineup, who does not play very stable.
Apparently, Alonso is still hesitant to put Vinicius on the bench like Rodrigo.

Well, few could have predicted that the match would be as fierce as it was. Dortmund, who didn't give up until the end, made the match even more tense. But in the end, Real Madrid was still able to win the match. And I love how Xabi Alonso continues to give Gonzalo Garcia Torres opportunities. because this young player always manages to score a goal in almost every match. I think Real Madrid finally found new talent in their squad. And I think with this Real Madrid will be less worried about the strength of their attack line. What may still be a problem is their back line. But I'm pretty sure Xabi Alonso will fix it and make Real Madrid more balanced on all fronts. Vini Jr doesn't seem to have regained his good momentum. In fact, before Mbappe arrived, we saw Vini Jr as a quite productive player. But unfortunately now he has not shown his sharpness again.

Judging by the rumors about Endrique, who may be sent out on loan I think Alonso is gradually getting rid of Brazilian players and replacing them with Spanish players, in the case of Garcia or European ones like ARda Guler.
Apparently discipline and training issues come first for Alonso and Brazilian players are often not very good with this component.
It seems that Vinicius will soon sit on the bench if he doesn't show his best game like last season.

Tomorrow we are waiting for an extremely interesting match with Fluminense, who have already created a little sensation and having the oldest squad of all teams has all chances to beat Chelsea.

[Alpha Marine]

The winner between Real Madrid and PSG is the clear favourite to win the FIFA World Cup.

The winner between PSG and Madrid will be the winner of the CWC. I'm very convinced about this. I understand football can be uncertain and unpredictable sometimes, but neither Fluminese nor Chelsea is good enough to win against PSG or Madrid. If Fluminese or Chelsea had been in the other bracket, where Madrid or PSG were, I don't think they would have made it to the semi-finals. Once Al Hilal knocked out Manchester City, I knew Chelsea had a good chance to reach the final, but I don't believe they will win it.

I have not seen a convincing performance from Chelsea. There were times when they showed glimpses of how good they can be, but they've not been able to maintain that level in any of the matches I've watched. Madrid, to,o has not been that good, but they're getting better.
If I were a Chelsea fan, I would be praying for Madrid to win PSG because Madrid is relatively easier to beat than PSG.

[promise444c5]

Well, there may be one chance for Chelsea to lift the trophy, first they beat Fluminense  in the semi-final (that should be on the cards) and if somehow Real Madrid comes in the final after beating PSG, they may stand a chance against them.

I would love to see Chelse vs either of the two in the finals , it’s been a while maybe it’s time to see Chelsea facing one of these top Non-English clubs and one of them is either PSG or Realmadrid .
However, for this to happen,Chelsea must be willing to beat a team who took out Alhilal and inter Milan.. Also, be reminded that Realmadrid had tough time with Alhilal and even draw them in their first game so it won’t be a easy game for Chelsea at all but things could be different anyways yet I’m speculating a possibility of tie as well..

[Btcdeybodi]

There is very little time left for the final match to be played on July 13th. Two of these four teams were predictable teams. I think everyone guessed Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Fluminense was a big surprise. Especially their wins over Al Hilal and Inter showed us that they are also surprise favorites. I think they have the potential to do everything and reach the final in the match they will play against Chelsea right now. However, I still think that the winner of Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain can win this cup.

Fluminense is the only surviving Brazilian team right now, they will get all the support they needed against Chelsea even if most people will predict Chelsea to win but for the fact that Fluminense won Al Hilal who sent Manchester City out of the competition send a message of how strong and composed they are, i don't want to even talk about their win against Inter Milan. I know that predictions will just be similar thing that happened in the champions League when we all thought that Arsenal and Barcelona will reach the final but we were wrong when PSG and Inter Milan made it to the finals. Now, everyone is predicting Chelsea to reach the final against either PSG or Real Madrid but Fluminense might reach the finals. Either PSG or Real Madrid have the capacity to win the trophy but Chelsea can also reach the finals and win the trophy.

[Jatiluhung]

Fluminense football team is ready to play the semi final against Chelsea football team. Both teams will play semi final against each other and both teams are doing well in performance Because both teams have excellent players who will play in different situations. Chelsea team has more love of fans and that team will give more performance to win this match and I also like that team sg and I want win of that team. But any team could win this match because players can perform well in different halves and we know there are two halves in this match.

If we look at the squad depth of the two teams, Chelsea will look like the favorite team. But if we look back at the team's experience then I feel Fluminense will be the favorite. Well, basically we understand that we will always prefer Chelsea as a more famous team from Europe. But after watching several teams from Brazil I started to like their style of play too. And regarding the Fluminense vs Chelsea match, initially I wanted to favor Chelsea. But I think I've now changed my mind and would rather choose Fluminense. I think the chances are pretty good too.
Fluminense, who managed to beat Al-hilal in the quarter-finals, actually looked ordinary. But yeah, somehow I want to choose it. Chelsea must fight well and if Chelsea manages to win then the reputation of the Premier League club will really improve. Because winning against Fluminense also means Chelsea beat two Brazilian teams in a row.

[Salahmu]

Fluminense football team is ready to play the semi final against Chelsea football team. Both teams will play semi final against each other and both teams are doing well in performance Because both teams have excellent players who will play in different situations. Chelsea team has more love of fans and that team will give more performance to win this match and I also like that team sg and I want win of that team. But any team could win this match because players can perform well in different halves and we know there are two halves in this match.

If Fluminense win Chelsea they would have a lot of fan based because a lot of people will like them based on the fact that they came as an underrated but becomes the club we regularly see, however I no that people would be drafting alot of factors to narrate the outcome including if there is any side more conversant in the stadium to be more higher but that might not be considered as an advantage to any side, By this hour tomorrow the match would be on the second half and the side that would win would have started leading already however what I saw a lot on this tournament was goals from all the groups, it was overwhelming.

[Joca97]

Fluminense football team is ready to play the semi final against Chelsea football team. Both teams will play semi final against each other and both teams are doing well in performance Because both teams have excellent players who will play in different situations. Chelsea team has more love of fans and that team will give more performance to win this match and I also like that team sg and I want win of that team. But any team could win this match because players can perform well in different halves and we know there are two halves in this match.

If Fluminense win Chelsea they would have a lot of fan based because a lot of people will like them based on the fact that they came as an underrated but becomes the club we regularly see, however I no that people would be drafting alot of factors to narrate the outcome including if there is any side more conversant in the stadium to be more higher but that might not be considered as an advantage to any side, By this hour tomorrow the match would be on the second half and the side that would win would have started leading already however what I saw a lot on this tournament was goals from all the groups, it was overwhelming.

I think its a possibilty that they win , if they play like they did so far they can win against Chelsea because Chelsea aint that good currently this season. I think that it can go either way and its 50/50 even with Chelsea being much better on paper. Still cant wait to see what will happen in this match.

[Zlantann]

I would love to see Chelse vs either of the two in the finals , it’s been a while maybe it’s time to see Chelsea facing one of these top Non-English clubs and one of them is either PSG or Realmadrid .
However, for this to happen,Chelsea must be willing to beat a team who took out Alhilal and inter Milan.. Also, be reminded that Realmadrid had tough time with Alhilal and even draw them in their first game so it won’t be a easy game for Chelsea at all but things could be different anyways yet I’m speculating a possibility of tie as well..

Chelsea fans should hope that their club first wins the game against the Brazilian side Fluminense. This South American side has players who have strength and can withstand the attack of Chelsea. If they manage to win the Semi-finals,  winning either PSG or Real Madrid will be a great task. Although football games are unpredictable, I don't know if Chelsea can stand the European champions.

The ticket for this match has been slashed from $474 to just $13. Which means we might see many fans from Brazil trooping in to support Fluminense at MetLife. Real Madrid will be desperate to win this match because they didn't win any trophies last season, and I hope Xabi Alonso will make it happen.

[CLS63]

That game is hard. PSG had an excellent season and Real Madrid changed a bit comparing to the previous season. I would say PSG looks favourite to me before the changes in Real Madrid and right now I still think they can make it.

Yes, PSG are still maintaining their impressive game in the Club World Cup as well. Even without Dembele they were able to do a really good job which proves they aren't mostly dependent on him.

On the other hand, Real Madrid is getting better and better with Xabi Alonso. His choices are more different than Ancelotti as he is giving young players more chances.

Mbappe and Dembele are both back too so we will see whether a side will manage to finish it in 90 minutes.

[skarais]

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If Fluminense had not eliminated Inter and Al Hilal, I would have easily said Chelsea would have won, but we are at such a level that both teams seem to have the same chance right now. The Brazilian team represents South America and they are playing with extra motivation in the Club World Cup. I believe they can eliminate Chelsea as well. I don't know who will win, but both teams seem to have an equal chance of advancing to the next round and the final. It looks like it will be a 50-50 match.

The chances of both teams may be the same, but the probabilities of both teams should be different. Chelsea is considered superior to Fluminense based on the depth of their squad, while Fluminense has been in their best form in the last few matches. Fluminense managed to complete their mission and reach the semifinals, but because their squad depth is different from Chelsea, Chelsea will be considered the favorite based on the probability of winning.

Chelsea should be able to win this semi-final and make it to the final, but we know that Fluminense have given their best so far. Fluminense are a team that can threaten Chelsea to fail to reach the Club World Cup final, but I agree that Chelsea are more likely to be expected. Chelsea's performance is not bad, so far only losing to Flamengo 3-1 in the group stage.

[$crypto$]

That game is hard. PSG had an excellent season and Real Madrid changed a bit comparing to the previous season. I would say PSG looks favourite to me before the changes in Real Madrid and right now I still think they can make it.

Yes, PSG are still maintaining their impressive game in the Club World Cup as well. Even without Dembele they were able to do a really good job which proves they aren't mostly dependent on him.

On the other hand, Real Madrid is getting better and better with Xabi Alonso. His choices are more different than Ancelotti as he is giving young players more chances.

Mbappe and Dembele are both back too so we will see whether a side will manage to finish it in 90 minutes.

This match is hard to predict. Lol
We see the same chances even though PSG remains the favorite according to the bookies, only we should not underestimate Real Madrid who are improving day by day with Xabi Alonso and his young players.

I know PSG is more impressive every time they appear, but this time they are against Real Madrid which is still difficult, on the one hand PSG is stronger on the one hand Real Madrid will not lose in my opinion.

Ahh, the main thing is we want to see Mbappe score a goal against PSG, of course it will add to the excitement of this match.

[Adbitco]

Bookmakers still strongly believe that PSG will win this competition. But look at the difference in Madrid's odds, it's not too far from PSG. This means that Madrid still has a chance to beat PSG. In your opinion, who will advance to the final round? PSG? or Madrid? My choice is still Madrid. In terms of betting, I will choose BTTS to avoid the risk of unexpected surprises.

BTW, has anyone tried betting on Chelsea as the winner of this competition? 

From previous meetings, Real Madrid has always been beating PSG when they meet, especially in their last games where PSG was ahead in the first leg but failed to qualify because they lost the return leg. I believe the reason why the odds are like this now is because, PSG is the best team in Europe. I also believe that Real Madrid having almost similar odds here against PSG is because they have improved this season compared to last season of which the odds would have been higher only if it was last season.

[pawel7777]

From previous meetings, Real Madrid has always been beating PSG when they meet, especially in their last games where PSG was ahead in the first leg but failed to qualify because they lost the return leg. I believe the reason why the odds are like this now is because, PSG is the best team in Europe. I also believe that Real Madrid having almost similar odds here against PSG is because they have improved this season compared to last season of which the odds would have been higher only if it was last season.

"Always" is a bit of a stretch.

The 6 most recent head-to-head results between Real Madrid and PSG are:

Mar 09, 2022: Real Madrid 3-1 Paris Saint-Germain (Champions League Last 16 Second Leg)
Feb 15, 2022: Paris Saint-Germain 1-0 Real Madrid (Champions League Last 16 First Leg)

Nov 26, 2019: Real Madrid 2-2 Paris Saint-Germain (Champions League Group Stage)

Sep 18, 2019: Paris Saint-Germain 3-0 Real Madrid (Champions League Group Stage)

Mar 06, 2018: Paris Saint-Germain 1-2 Real Madrid (Champions League Last 16 Second Leg)
Feb 14, 2018: Real Madrid 3-1 Paris Saint-Germain (Champions League Last 16 First Leg)

So we had Real winning 3 times, one draw, and PSG winning twice.
I wouldn't be putting too much weight on it, as any club is only as good as its recent performance. The last clash between these two was in 2022, and a lot has changed since then. That's why it's the PSG, not Real, who are a (slight) favourite.

[mvdheuvel1983]

That game is hard. PSG had an excellent season and Real Madrid changed a bit comparing to the previous season. I would say PSG looks favourite to me before the changes in Real Madrid and right now I still think they can make it.

Yes, PSG are still maintaining their impressive game in the Club World Cup as well. Even without Dembele they were able to do a really good job which proves they aren't mostly dependent on him.

On the other hand, Real Madrid is getting better and better with Xabi Alonso. His choices are more different than Ancelotti as he is giving young players more chances.

Mbappe and Dembele are both back too so we will see whether a side will manage to finish it in 90 minutes.

Right now PSG is the team that should be feard as they still have the energy and form that took them to lifting the champions League last season and they are never getting tired of being better as they have displayed I their games since the beginning of the competition, the team is unique and their style of play shows how they are not affected by the absence of any player in the team which is one fantastic thing about the team right now. PSG facing the Real Madrid team under the management of Xabi is going to be Wonderful they have all their players bafk in the team I think we should expect a good game but I hope it all ends in 90 minutes.

[Justbillywitt]

I have seen many Chelsea fans happy that they are the favourite to win the trophy, but I just see it as fun because they know that Chelsea cannot defeat Real Madrid or PSG, and for some people who think PSG is going to knock out Real Madrid easily, they should also know that Real Madrid knows how to play any competition, and when it comes to semi-final matches, Real Madrid always surprises people.

At this point any of the teams that are left in the tournament is considered a potential winner of the competition because they are all strong. In a competition were 32 teams came to compete and you made it to the last 4 such teams are to be considered strong. So I don't blame any Chelsea fans that is saying that their team is the favourite to lift the trophy. Sometimes it is not even about a team that is the strongest that will lift the trophy. Chelsea and Fluminense one of the will be in the final and luck could be on their side on the final day and they might go home with the trophy. There is no point underestimating any of the remaining teams, because that team could be the champion at the end of the day.