[Call to action] BC.game is not entity that should be trusted.

[BenCodie]

Share please more info about this lawsuit. I want to join it.

No KYC, no verification of funds. 100% manipulation.

If you lost playing their game, you'll have a lot more trouble recovering anything/proving their games are manipulated without concrete evidence. gho0573d has his funds confiscated, not lost to the games. The cases are different so I doubt you will be able to join the same case.

Not sure whether or not should I release this but just received proof by DFI showing actual fraud taking place.

What would be the reason not to release it? What is the estimated time frame before these frauds are taken offline?

The image being portrayed is definitely as though you are attacking him (even if the intention is the opposite).

As for him working as a public relations person for BC Game, it is not true. BC Game is not the only casino that has scam accusations against them and holydarkness has been active in many scam accusation threads about different casinos too. He volunteers a lot of his time trying to resolve cases, at least that should be acknowledged rather than his reputation being called in to question.

Well, the difference would be through my posts and actions. I am not using that feedback to attack hd, I am simply stating that he is acting as their public relations person (which, he is, as he is handling basically all of their scam accusation threads for them in the exact same way as if he were to be employed by them to do so).

I will make my stance a clearer - I find it very hard to believe that a casino can do so much wrongdoing and that the one user on this forum is preventing that casino from being labelled as a scam, because they are essentially handling their cases for them. It is hard to believe that this user has not thought "wow, there are just too many cases, something is not right here" unless they are not some way incentivized to not think about it. It is also hard to believe that someone who had a genuine intention of helping players to not also have the same thought about not just bc.game (despite it being a clearly leading culprit according to the data posted by gh0573d) but also about other casinos.

I understand your stance and thought the same. But the thing is: BCgame have very "positive" history in solving all the cases and providing various "evidence" of players' wrongdoing is something that he never questioned. Because, at the end, why would they be lying?

As for other players, they became dismissive after they got the public "resolution" thinking they actually did something wrong, it just can't be that every ADR is telling them they did something wrong, yet they "claim" they didn't?

I didn't quite understand you though the big question is how many people have their funds locked and do not post on the forum (maybe due to language barrier, not being able to/wanting to complete the KYC to begin with, or other reasons)

On the other side, lets look at my case specifically. They want to convince me I actually:

- Created third account
- Self-referred that account to my main one
- While I was having $1m in Vault in my main account
- And jeopardize of getting my funds taken just (according to blurry image) for mere $250 deposit
- While that third account was never in fact banned?

Nah, not going to happen.

I'm sure they try to convince many players of wrongdoing, especially as the number gets larger.

small victory!

Just been informed that court has validated our request for asset seizure in case against Fenice Tech Limited (owners of BC game) and has scheduled expedited hearing next Wednesday.

If approved, both domains bc.game and bcgame.com will be suspended after such request is approved. Including all of their assets in Cyprus.

Congratulations I'm following and supporting this case as I've done enough reading and researching to know that bc.game are a fraudulent entity. I do hope you are not trolling with your journey, and are succeeding as you say you are. One thing that I am concerned about is how fast this is moving. I have never heard of a case move through courts so quickly. Usually the legal process is a very long and painful one.

[gh0573d]

Share please more info about this lawsuit. I want to join it.

No KYC, no verification of funds. 100% manipulation.

If you lost playing their game, you'll have a lot more trouble recovering anything/proving their games are manipulated without concrete evidence. gho0573d has his funds confiscated, not lost to the games. The cases are different so I doubt you will be able to join the same case.

Not sure whether or not should I release this but just received proof by DFI showing actual fraud taking place.

What would be the reason not to release it? What is the estimated time frame before these frauds are taken offline?

The image being portrayed is definitely as though you are attacking him (even if the intention is the opposite).

As for him working as a public relations person for BC Game, it is not true. BC Game is not the only casino that has scam accusations against them and holydarkness has been active in many scam accusation threads about different casinos too. He volunteers a lot of his time trying to resolve cases, at least that should be acknowledged rather than his reputation being called in to question.

Well, the difference would be through my posts and actions. I am not using that feedback to attack hd, I am simply stating that he is acting as their public relations person (which, he is, as he is handling basically all of their scam accusation threads for them in the exact same way as if he were to be employed by them to do so).

I will make my stance a clearer - I find it very hard to believe that a casino can do so much wrongdoing and that the one user on this forum is preventing that casino from being labelled as a scam, because they are essentially handling their cases for them. It is hard to believe that this user has not thought "wow, there are just too many cases, something is not right here" unless they are not some way incentivized to not think about it. It is also hard to believe that someone who had a genuine intention of helping players to not also have the same thought about not just bc.game (despite it being a clearly leading culprit according to the data posted by gh0573d) but also about other casinos.

I understand your stance and thought the same. But the thing is: BCgame have very "positive" history in solving all the cases and providing various "evidence" of players' wrongdoing is something that he never questioned. Because, at the end, why would they be lying?

As for other players, they became dismissive after they got the public "resolution" thinking they actually did something wrong, it just can't be that every ADR is telling them they did something wrong, yet they "claim" they didn't?

I didn't quite understand you though the big question is how many people have their funds locked and do not post on the forum (maybe due to language barrier, not being able to/wanting to complete the KYC to begin with, or other reasons)

On the other side, lets look at my case specifically. They want to convince me I actually:

- Created third account
- Self-referred that account to my main one
- While I was having $1m in Vault in my main account
- And jeopardize of getting my funds taken just (according to blurry image) for mere $250 deposit
- While that third account was never in fact banned?

Nah, not going to happen.

I'm sure they try to convince many players of wrongdoing, especially as the number gets larger.

small victory!

Just been informed that court has validated our request for asset seizure in case against Fenice Tech Limited (owners of BC game) and has scheduled expedited hearing next Wednesday.

If approved, both domains bc.game and bcgame.com will be suspended after such request is approved. Including all of their assets in Cyprus.

Congratulations I'm following and supporting this case as I've done enough reading and researching to know that bc.game are a fraudulent entity. I do hope you are not trolling with your journey, and are succeeding as you say you are. One thing that I am concerned about is how fast this is moving. I have never heard of a case move through courts so quickly. Usually the legal process is a very long and painful one.

As I'm still newbie in terms of "cutting" quotes, I'll address them in order.

1 - It contains personally identifiable information on parties involved - specifically UBO of Blockdance and Director of Fenice Tech Limited (although director's name is already public). I am willing to share this finding for confirmation with admin/mod. Also, please note that this finding includes involvement of illegal activities by their lawyer at a time.

2 - Many people follow steps on trying to recover their account, steps being: inquire casino, ADR request. Very few stops there thinking that ADRs decision is final, although none of them ever seen any supporting evidence in cases against them when ADR decides it's (Rejected). I've seen few examples here on Bitcointalk where after "ruling" was made that there is supporting evidence to reject the claim, player replied "I am sure I did nothing wrong" and just went on their way either playing somewhere else or not playing at all. Those who goes to collect their winnings legally, in most cases (when casino is reasonable enough) either see the evidence even before it hits the court (response to legal demand) or settle. In case of BC.game, none of the evidence ever existed even when it was presented to the court (in my case), and only appeared after I have publicly called them out or seek ADR process months after legal course.

3 - Unfortunately, this is their MO. I am (at this moment) aware of three other cases, one being $600k and others $750k and $500k being pursued legally.

4 - Well, it's not moving quickly. In regards to that "small victory" court only assessed whether or not we had a valid reasons to file such request, or it was baseless, and made decision to schedule a hearing where we will be providing evidence on which court will determine whether or not to grant such request. This was expedited hearing, and if such is processed, assets of Fenice Tech Limited (including domains bc.game and bcgame.com) will be frozen until actual case against them is finalized. So yeah, although ruling on our request will be swift, waiting for final decision will still be slow.

We're also working with bankruptcy trustee to proceed with asset recovery phase, where we have enough supporting evidence to get the domain name bc.game under her control, and possibly attempt to sell it in order to fund the claims against their legal entities in Curacao.

[BenCodie]

As I'm still newbie in terms of "cutting" quotes, I'll address them in order.

That's fine. If it helps for future reference, you can open the quote with

Code:

[quote author=gh0573d link=topic=5543815.msg65467853#msg65467853 date=1749510514]

which is created when you click the quote button (in this example I clicked quote on your latest post).

Close the quote (for each quote you create) with

Code:

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1 - It contains personally identifiable information on parties involved - specifically UBO of Blockdance and Director of Fenice Tech Limited (although director's name is already public). I am willing to share this finding for confirmation with admin/mod. Also, please note that this finding includes involvement of illegal activities by their lawyer at a time.

I see. Yes, don't post personally identifiable information as it will result in your thread being moved to the Investigations board which is off limits to the public and even some low level ranks, resulting in reduced visibility. Though if you want to publish this information (or want someone to publish it for you) I fully support you doing so, and would be happy to post that information in that board (as it's allowed there) considering bc.game are basically a criminal organization.

2 - Many people follow steps on trying to recover their account, steps being: inquire casino, ADR request. Very few stops there thinking that ADRs decision is final, although none of them ever seen any supporting evidence in cases against them when ADR decides it's (Rejected). I've seen few examples here on Bitcointalk where after "ruling" was made that there is supporting evidence to reject the claim, player replied "I am sure I did nothing wrong" and just went on their way either playing somewhere else or not playing at all. Those who goes to collect their winnings legally, in most cases (when casino is reasonable enough) either see the evidence even before it hits the court (response to legal demand) or settle. In case of BC.game, none of the evidence ever existed even when it was presented to the court (in my case), and only appeared after I have publicly called them out or seek ADR process months after legal course.

I agree with all of that. Legal action is not an easy process from the view of time or resources. Many would accept the outcome even if they disagree with it. Some might not understand and give up. That is my problem with the notion of what bc.game do and prey on. They "settle" here on bitcointalk when the matter reaches the public view (for smaller cases than this one, at least) though when it doesn't, it's money in their pocket.

3 - Unfortunately, this is their MO. I am (at this moment) aware of three other cases, one being $600k and others $750k and $500k being pursued legally.

I wonder how many other cases there might be if 100% of victims had a case running. That aside, if this is their MO and these cases are running, what do you say or think about those who are promoting bc.game? Do you think that the ethical thing to do is pause those efforts? Would you go as far to say that they are even guilty in a way for doing so? I am quite sure that promoters are aware of the scam nature (though won't say much about it since those scammed funds are probably what's enabling bc.game to have such an exorbitant advertising budget), though with benefit of the doubt, I'd like to hear your opinion.

4 - Well, it's not moving quickly. In regards to that "small victory" court only assessed whether or not we had a valid reasons to file such request, or it was baseless, and made decision to schedule a hearing where we will be providing evidence on which court will determine whether or not to grant such request. This was expedited hearing, and if such is processed, assets of Fenice Tech Limited (including domains bc.game and bcgame.com) will be frozen until actual case against them is finalized. So yeah, although ruling on our request will be swift, waiting for final decision will still be slow.

I see, this makes a lot more sense. Thank you for explaining this and everything prior.

We're also working with bankruptcy trustee to proceed with asset recovery phase, where we have enough supporting evidence to get the domain name bc.game under her control, and possibly attempt to sell it in order to fund the claims against their legal entities in Curacao.

While a premium domain, I doubt the domain would go for much if the casino is implicated. The only way I could see it going for a lot is if they buy it back themselves, or if a competitor buys it to take over the brand. Both of which will only prolong the centralized crypto casino problem. That's my opinion at least, not entirely relevant or within the scope of your goals (which I'm not judging/is fair given that you would be trying to recover funds for victims of bc.game).

[gh0573d]

I see. Yes, don't post personally identifiable information as it will result in your thread being moved to the Investigations board which is off limits to the public and even some low level ranks, resulting in reduced visibility. Though if you want to publish this information (or want someone to publish it for you) I fully support you doing so, and would be happy to post that information in that board (as it's allowed there) considering bc.game are basically a criminal organization.

I'd be happy to pass it on, please DM me your e-mail.

I wonder how many other cases there might be if 100% of victims had a case running. That aside, if this is their MO and these cases are running, what do you say or think about those who are promoting bc.game? Do you think that the ethical thing to do is pause those efforts? Would you go as far to say that they are even guilty in a way for doing so? I am quite sure that promoters are aware of the scam nature (though won't say much about it since those scammed funds are probably what's enabling bc.game to have such an exorbitant advertising budget), though with benefit of the doubt, I'd like to hear your opinion.

Probably hundreds. I already showed (either here or in another topic) comparison on number of complaints at ADRs between Stake (industry dominant according to Tanzanite) vs BC.game, where BC.game has 10x more complaints opened against them.

As for me accusing promoters, well that's tricky. While I understand their position, which (imho) is right - innocent until proven otherwise, I believe there is a question of whether or not it's an ethical thing to do. And it's something I wouldn't want to do just yet.


edit: found it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088875.msg65452951#msg65452951

While a premium domain, I doubt the domain would go for much if the casino is implicated. The only way I could see it going for a lot is if they buy it back themselves, or if a competitor buys it to take over the brand. Both of which will only prolong the centralized crypto casino problem. That's my opinion at least, not entirely relevant or within the scope of your goals (which I'm not judging/is fair given that you would be trying to recover funds for victims of bc.game).

Well, your opinion is kinda goal. If you look at their sponsorships, most of their sponsors advertise "BC.GAME", a domain directly. If said domain is either seized (aka suspended pending court decision) or controlled/auctioned by bankruptcy trustee, there is a high possibility of either them trying to acquire it back and settling for full amount on cases + interests or simply selling the domain name to (possibly) competitor along with the brand ownership, to which they would own full rights to BC.GAME brand and any further operation of actual BC.GAME would be further involvement in crime operation: brand infringement.

[gh0573d]

Further demonstration of their scam behavior:

[JollyGood]

It has become a pointless exercise for anybody to try to defend BC Game. They have allowed for a situation to occur where their conduct is being questioned by many members for the forum.

If BC Game want to limit the damage to their reputation, they have to focus on repairing the low-level of customer services they provide to their customers.

Further demonstration of their scam behavior:

[gh0573d]

It has become a pointless exercise for anybody to try to defend BC Game. They have allowed for a situation to occur where their conduct is being questioned by many members for the forum.

If BC Game want to limit the damage to their reputation, they have to focus on repairing the low-level of customer services they provide to their customers.

Further demonstration of their scam behavior:

Not sure there is reputation to be saved. Unfortunately their ad campaigns across all channels (BitcoinTalk included) portrays reputable casino, while I've became aware numerous of claims being submitted against them and proving otherwise, being complete scam ops.

For example, only two cases (most recent ones) are totaling $2.5m, excluding all others. If you add up the ones already validated and to be paid by Curacao/trustee, that's solely $5m in 5 cases.

Not to mention those being reviewed by the lawyer at the moment, or the ones being pursued through other law firms.

[JollyGood]

As their reputation sinks further and further in to the gutter, I wonder if they will eventually opt for an exit-scam. If they were serious about their reputation they would be engaging with those that claim to have been scammed. Their business practices and list of complaints are evidence enough they need to change course otherwise they will have literally zero reputation left.

Not sure there is reputation to be saved. Unfortunately their ad campaigns across all channels (BitcoinTalk included) portrays reputable casino, while I've became aware numerous of claims being submitted against them and proving otherwise, being complete scam ops.

For example, only two cases (most recent ones) are totaling $2.5m, excluding all others. If you add up the ones already validated and to be paid by Curacao/trustee, that's solely $5m in 5 cases.

Not to mention those being reviewed by the lawyer at the moment, or the ones being pursued through other law firms.

[gh0573d]

Another update:

Leicester FC has silently cancelled BCgame partnership.

[BenCodie]

As their reputation sinks further and further in to the gutter, I wonder if they will eventually opt for an exit-scam. If they were serious about their reputation they would be engaging with those that claim to have been scammed. Their business practices and list of complaints are evidence enough they need to change course otherwise they will have literally zero reputation left.

Not sure there is reputation to be saved. Unfortunately their ad campaigns across all channels (BitcoinTalk included) portrays reputable casino, while I've became aware numerous of claims being submitted against them and proving otherwise, being complete scam ops.

For example, only two cases (most recent ones) are totaling $2.5m, excluding all others. If you add up the ones already validated and to be paid by Curacao/trustee, that's solely $5m in 5 cases.

Not to mention those being reviewed by the lawyer at the moment, or the ones being pursued through other law firms.

It's clear that this forum and the members who are keeping bc.game running longer than it should are going to continue to help bc.game milk the cow until nothing is left. When they stop spending funds on advertising or when they are legally required to cease operation, they will surely disappear. They are already freezing accounts and selectively stealing from players, there's no reason to believe they will let people withdraw before they close down.

I hope that the forum reprimands those who have been enabling the scam, as even though they will have made a massive amount of money for enabling it for so long, they should at least lose their reputation here for keeping it running. If they aren't, that will prove a massive level of corruption on the forum for enabling and prolonging such a scam, and allowing members who enabled it to continue being recognised as credible members here. If it weren't for these members (who are very aware of what is going on by this point and clearly negligent of as to what is right and wrong), bc.game might have been ousted as a scam and may already have been closed by now, or at least would have lost its reputation.

[JollyGood]

Leicester FC has silently cancelled BCgame partnership.

I would not be surprised if Leicester City decided to unilaterally cancel their agreement. I searched online but did not find anything at all related to Leicester City cancelling their BC Game sponsorship. Do you have a link in order for us to verify this?

It's clear that this forum and the members who are keeping bc.game running longer than it should are going to continue to help bc.game milk the cow until nothing is left. When they stop spending funds on advertising or when they are legally required to cease operation, they will surely disappear. They are already freezing accounts and selectively stealing from players, there's no reason to believe they will let people withdraw before they close down.

Can you elaborate by providing names that you think are keeping BC Game going longer than it should?

I hope that the forum reprimands those who have been enabling the scam, as even though they will have made a massive amount of money for enabling it for so long, they should at least lose their reputation here for keeping it running. If they aren't, that will prove a massive level of corruption on the forum for enabling and prolonging such a scam, and allowing members who enabled it to continue being recognised as credible members here. If it weren't for these members (who are very aware of what is going on by this point and clearly negligent of as to what is right and wrong), bc.game might have been ousted as a scam and may already have been closed by now, or at least would have lost its reputation.

The forum itself will not reprimand any members for anything they might have done, that is not how things work. If members get together and form consensus, they could tag accounts but for that to happen there has to be a case. If you feel strongly about this you should at least provide names along with posts that prove some sort of collusion because you cannot make a case without evidence.

[BenCodie]

It's clear that this forum and the members who are keeping bc.game running longer than it should are going to continue to help bc.game milk the cow until nothing is left. When they stop spending funds on advertising or when they are legally required to cease operation, they will surely disappear. They are already freezing accounts and selectively stealing from players, there's no reason to believe they will let people withdraw before they close down.

Can you elaborate by providing names that you think are keeping BC Game going longer than it should?

Primarily the users who are in charge of advertising/marketing and public relations/complaint management. They would be very aware of the malpractice, and should already be criticizing bc.game instead of putting in efforts that enable them to continue.

The names can come out when it's time for them to come out, as I've already been punished and had my credibility damaged for pointing the main source out in the past. Just check the two red ratings on my profile for the one who is enabling them via advertising/marketing. There are others, but I don't want to be painted red by them too. For an idea of who is enabling the scam to continue, just by look at who is running the campaigns and handling their complaints for them, despite being made aware that bc.game is a selectively scamming and fraudulent casino operation.

I hope that the forum reprimands those who have been enabling the scam, as even though they will have made a massive amount of money for enabling it for so long, they should at least lose their reputation here for keeping it running. If they aren't, that will prove a massive level of corruption on the forum for enabling and prolonging such a scam, and allowing members who enabled it to continue being recognised as credible members here. If it weren't for these members (who are very aware of what is going on by this point and clearly negligent of as to what is right and wrong), bc.game might have been ousted as a scam and may already have been closed by now, or at least would have lost its reputation.

The forum itself will not reprimand any members for anything they might have done, that is not how things work. If members get together and form consensus, they could tag accounts but for that to happen there has to be a case. If you feel strongly about this you should at least provide names along with posts that prove some sort of collusion because you cannot make a case without evidence.

The community should reprimand accomplice/enabler of any crime or scam, though whether they do or don't is up to them. I am sure we can agree that in a community where fairness and justice are core values, reprimanding enablers through negative trust ratings and flags is what should be done.

As for evidence, when bc.game falls, a lot of efforts and posts made in the past will become evidence. There's enough evidence to prove that members who are extensively putting efforts into advertising/marketing and public relations/complaint management would be aware of the hundreds of complaints being posted against them, and are making extensive efforts to keep the scam going (as opposed to criticizing it and asking key questions like, "why are so many complaints being posted per day?", "how many people aren't posting complaints and aren't having their cases resolved?" and "should I really be advocating/putting efforts into a casino that is freezing funds of so many players, and refusing to give them support unless they speak up?")

[JollyGood]

The only conclusion that can drawn from your post is that the campaign/bounty manager by virtue of running their campaign is complicit in any scam that BC Game could be involved with. If that is the case then two very important statements should be made.

First, if it applies to BC Game then the same principle has to apply to all casinos that are using the forum to promote their business. Second, unless there is a constant stream of complaints against a casino/gaming website that remain unresolved, a campaign manager would probably not consider severing ties.

I know Hhampuz stopped the campaign after too many complaints were made again freebitcoin. It takes a campaign manager with integrity to walk away from managing a campaign when selective scamming accusations are made. Did you contact the campaign manager to ask him why he is promoting BC Game when they have many scam accusations again them?

Keeping that aside, the fact you stated you did not want to elaborate on names/posts (because you believe you will receive negative trust) means that you are limiting yourself to self-imposed censorship. I would advise you and all others to take a different approach and be free to post as you feel appropriate.

[gh0573d]

Leicester FC has silently cancelled BCgame partnership.

I would not be surprised if Leicester City decided to unilaterally cancel their agreement. I searched online but did not find anything at all related to Leicester City cancelling their BC Game sponsorship. Do you have a link in order for us to verify this?

It's clear that this forum and the members who are keeping bc.game running longer than it should are going to continue to help bc.game milk the cow until nothing is left. When they stop spending funds on advertising or when they are legally required to cease operation, they will surely disappear. They are already freezing accounts and selectively stealing from players, there's no reason to believe they will let people withdraw before they close down.

Can you elaborate by providing names that you think are keeping BC Game going longer than it should?

I hope that the forum reprimands those who have been enabling the scam, as even though they will have made a massive amount of money for enabling it for so long, they should at least lose their reputation here for keeping it running. If they aren't, that will prove a massive level of corruption on the forum for enabling and prolonging such a scam, and allowing members who enabled it to continue being recognised as credible members here. If it weren't for these members (who are very aware of what is going on by this point and clearly negligent of as to what is right and wrong), bc.game might have been ousted as a scam and may already have been closed by now, or at least would have lost its reputation.

The forum itself will not reprimand any members for anything they might have done, that is not how things work. If members get together and form consensus, they could tag accounts but for that to happen there has to be a case. If you feel strongly about this you should at least provide names along with posts that prove some sort of collusion because you cannot make a case without evidence.

When I said silently, that means there is no official info. If you go through web archive of both Leicester and BCgame, you would find:

1 - Partnership banner of bcgame on Leciester FCs website
2 - Way too many references to BCgame on Leciester's socials
3 - BCgame references on that sponsorship on LCFC on BCg landing

Since the end of May (end of Premier League as well), partnership banners on LCFC website were taken down, jerseys were changed to King Power, no ads for BCgame on socials and just few days ago, BCgame has removed landing banner showing they are the sponsors of LC FC.

[BenCodie]

The only conclusion that can drawn from your post is that the campaign/bounty manager by virtue of running their campaign is complicit in any scam that BC Game could be involved with. If that is the case then two very important statements should be made.

First, if it applies to BC Game then the same principle has to apply to all casinos that are using the forum to promote their business. Second, unless there is a constant stream of complaints against a casino/gaming website that remain unresolved, a campaign manager would probably not consider severing ties.

These nuances are something that the wider community should consider and discuss, though in my opinion the first problem to deal with is the largest one. After that, there is precedent. At this time, bc.game is the largest problem.

I know Hhampuz stopped the campaign after too many complaints were made again freebitcoin. It takes a campaign manager with integrity to walk away from managing a campaign when selective scamming accusations are made. Did you contact the campaign manager to ask him why he is promoting BC Game when they have many scam accusations again them?

Keeping that aside, the fact you stated you did not want to elaborate on names/posts (because you believe you will receive negative trust) means that you are limiting yourself to self-imposed censorship. I would advise you and all others to take a different approach and be free to post as you feel appropriate.

There is seemingly no integrity when it comes to bc.game and its affiliates. I have already stated publicly that it is wrong to promote or conduct public relations for a service that has a large flow of scam accusations as it highlights that the growing likelihood that there are people who are not being supported and are being scammed. An innocent and logical person would understand this point and cease association with the service. Its affiliates have not - they have instead willfully ignored the point, and continued to provide bc.game with paid or "free" assistance. The responses I receive is that I am a troll, that I am a charlatan, and so on (as all falsely labelled on my profile).

Keeping that aside, the fact you stated you did not want to elaborate on names/posts (because you believe you will receive negative trust) means that you are limiting yourself to self-imposed censorship. I would advise you and all others to take a different approach and be free to post as you feel appropriate.

I'm not interested in more back and forth with them. We know who we are speaking about. When bc.game collapses, I'll name names. For now, I don't have mental energy for more debate, and more fake and damaging trust ratings on my profile.

[gh0573d]

It has become pointless discussing whether or not they are scammers or no.

If you just check all ADR complaints against BC.game, you can clearly see a pattern, where huge winner's account become instant "multiple account" rule breaker, yet when anyone inquires to get verifiable piece of information on that rule being broken, you are not allowed to see.

If we disregard my complaint and just use common practice in privacy laws - data protection (GDPR in Europe and similar in other parts of the world), it clearly shows that they don't even follow those rules, because you are unable to view data related to "possibly" your account, and if they claim it was/is yours, they should be able to show you that data.

Now on the other hand, lets look at their "Vaults Pro" rules/faq (this is also part of the evidence in another case against them):




Using their own words, assets in Vault Pro belongs to players and shouldn't be touched by anyone other than the depositor.

By banning player's accounts (from gambling platform), they are effectively holding depositors' money hostage from the depositors (trading/investment "platform", yeah they have defined Vault Pro differently), effectively breaking their own Terms, who knows how many laws and showing further their scamming behavior.

Now, to get back at "enablement" by running the campaign or advertising bc.game, I totally agree with BenCodie that anyone who's enabling further business by advertising them is effectively part of their scam operation. Not directly in any way, but enabling BC.game to find another victim in present/future time.

Having said that and understanding forum's "free speech" policy, campaign manager (@Little Mouse) is the one effectively "running" their scam operations at this present moment, and would be the one to really ask himself whether or not money is worth possibly losing his reputation in (near or distant) future because of them.

EDIT: Just checked [Scam Accusations] sub-forum, and in only first 3 pages, 12 entries are against BC.game, with only one of them being successfully resolved. Shouldn't that raise some eyebrows? That accounts for 10% of all complaints within those 3 pages (as I see 40 topics per page).
 

[JollyGood]

BC Game has a multi-million USD$ turnover therefore the very least that can be expected from them is to provide excellent customer services. I have posted in some of the thread that you mentioned, the latest being this one: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH

It seems pointless for any member of the forum to defend BC Game when they are no longer trustworthy. Also, judging by their lack of engagement within the forum it seems they have no respect for any of their customers that make complaints against them.

EDIT: Just checked [Scam Accusations] sub-forum, and in only first 3 pages, 12 entries are against BC.game, with only one of them being successfully resolved. Shouldn't that raise some eyebrows? That accounts for 10% of all complaints within those 3 pages (as I see 40 topics per page).

[Little Mouse]

EDIT: Just checked [Scam Accusations] sub-forum, and in only first 3 pages, 12 entries are against BC.game, with only one of them being successfully resolved. Shouldn't that raise some eyebrows? That accounts for 10% of all complaints within those 3 pages (as I see 40 topics per page).
 

What a lie! I have gone through and found at least 6 lol, and for the rest, here's what happened to other cases.

The summaries are for users who don't have time to read the scam accusation thread but don't want to discuss the reputation of the casino. It'll save your time.

1. BC GAME SCAMMERS - RIGGED ORIGINALS TOWER GAME (WITH PROOF)
Not a scam accusation yet

2. BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
Self admitted that they bypassed self-exclusion.

3. BC.GAME withdrawal suspended. Am I getting scammed?!
German Citizen, supposed to be blocked, but he must be using a VPN to bypass. The case still has things that need to be discussed, though.

4. BC.Game: Fraudulent Crash Game + Account Suspension After Reporting — My Full Ex
Not a scam accusation, provided a wrong UID as well, because the UID OP shared was inactive from 2023. See the reply made by user Mahdirakib

5. ⚠️SCAM⚠️ BC.game - refusing to pay $1.5m, switched jurisdiction to avoid paying
Holydarkness had a long investigation and shared his final verdict. Casinoguru also favored bcgame- https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-account-has-been-closed-without-3

6. Bc.game scamming me for my money
OP made claims that they didn't get a few deposits that they had made before 60 days. Does it make sense? There was no pending deposit for the account. OP was asked to provide some data but haven't replied since.

7. BC GAMES
Self-excluded, no scam happened either.

8. BC.Game locked account after being very active on chat
No amount was scammed. He was marked as a bonus abuser and got banned.

9. BC.Game Withdrawal Issue – Delayed Payment, No Resolution
Delayed withdrawal. Haven't made a single update after posting the thread. No information attached. So, it's not an accusation even.

10. BCGAME SCAM $6K+ cancelling sportsbook bets after they already won
The decision was made by odds provider Betby

11. Is BC.Game’s Weekly Raffle Rigged? No Wins in 3 Years and Questions About Banned
He didn't win weekly raffle in a 3 year and made the post, not a scam accusation.

the latest being this one: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH

Yet, you can't see that the user self-excluded himself and bypassed.

[Lillominato89]

I believe that if by any chance bcgame turns out to be a full-blown scam, Little Mouse would be the first to cease all service with them.  In any case, it is right to have a precautionary attitude towards every casino, but it is also true that most of the accusations of fraud towards the various casinos are often unfounded accusations, or without any tangible evidence

[gh0573d]

EDIT: Just checked [Scam Accusations] sub-forum, and in only first 3 pages, 12 entries are against BC.game, with only one of them being successfully resolved. Shouldn't that raise some eyebrows? That accounts for 10% of all complaints within those 3 pages (as I see 40 topics per page).
 

What a lie! I have gone through and found at least 6 lol, and for the rest, here's what happened to other cases.

The summaries are for users who don't have time to read the scam accusation thread but don't want to discuss the reputation of the casino. It'll save your time.

1. BC GAME SCAMMERS - RIGGED ORIGINALS TOWER GAME (WITH PROOF)
Not a scam accusation yet

2. BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
Self admitted that they bypassed self-exclusion.

3. BC.GAME withdrawal suspended. Am I getting scammed?!
German Citizen, supposed to be blocked, but he must be using a VPN to bypass. The case still has things that need to be discussed, though.

4. BC.Game: Fraudulent Crash Game + Account Suspension After Reporting — My Full Ex
Not a scam accusation, provided a wrong UID as well, because the UID OP shared was inactive from 2023. See the reply made by user Mahdirakib

5. ⚠️SCAM⚠️ BC.game - refusing to pay $1.5m, switched jurisdiction to avoid paying
Holydarkness had a long investigation and shared his final verdict. Casinoguru also favored bcgame- https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-account-has-been-closed-without-3

6. Bc.game scamming me for my money
OP made claims that they didn't get a few deposits that they had made before 60 days. Does it make sense? There was no pending deposit for the account. OP was asked to provide some data but haven't replied since.

7. BC GAMES
Self-excluded, no scam happened either.

8. BC.Game locked account after being very active on chat
No amount was scammed. He was marked as a bonus abuser and got banned.

9. BC.Game Withdrawal Issue – Delayed Payment, No Resolution
Delayed withdrawal. Haven't made a single update after posting the thread. No information attached. So, it's not an accusation even.

10. BCGAME SCAM $6K+ cancelling sportsbook bets after they already won
The decision was made by odds provider Betby

11. Is BC.Game’s Weekly Raffle Rigged? No Wins in 3 Years and Questions About Banned
He didn't win weekly raffle in a 3 year and made the post, not a scam accusation.

the latest being this one: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH

Yet, you can't see that the user self-excluded himself and bypassed.

First, let me show you some other facts and I'd like to see you go through every ADR case and defend them one by one, because most of these are "rejected" or resolved in BCG favor:

as for their activity in regards to promotion, that's all the activity there is. What about user complaints, court cases, dispute resolution?

Sadly, Your issue is happening behind while the majority here doesn’t have any problem on BC at all. I don’t want to defend BC against their existing case but it’s already being handled legally so let’s just wait what will be the outcome for your legal battle against.

BC is known for resolving all their issue in the past here no matter what is the amount.

Keep us updated.

Actually, there is a vast majority of having issues like me, they (same as I until recently) were never aware of BitcoinTalk or raising our complaints publicly. On the other hand, if you check all recent cases of players v bc.game (except latest one), it appears as if every single case was rejected either here or through ADR, so while you might have positive overview of BC.game operations, that might be just lack of information provided publicly.

As for me and my legal battle, I already won once in Curacao, but they fled the jurisdiction and never paid to single claimant (references: https://next.io/news/regulation/bc-game-withdraws-curacao-gaming-licence/ & https://next.io/news/regulation/bc-game-declared-bankrupt/) or even more recent, non-existent legal entity in Belize?

If I go even further, there are at least two dozen cases pending in SBGOK Foundation and who knows how many at LMS Advocaten (ex-lawyer of foundation).


Let me actually prove my theory:

Lets do comparison between Stake and BCgame. Reason for putting Stake is because of their industry dominance according to Tanzanite (close to 10x more deposits than BC.game).

Now lets look at their stats at ADRs:

Casino.guru
Stake - total 274 complaints
BCgame Casino - 534 total complaints

AskGamblers
Stake - 36 total
Bcgame - 316 total

So, you want to tell me that the industry dominant casino, who has more player base, far more deposits has less complaints than the BCgame and it's just coincidence?

Or that most of resolutions are dismissed immediately? Or bankruptcy ruling was just in vain? Same goes for their avoidance of legal battle in Curacao and "appeal" that never happened?

Come. On.

On the other note,case number 5 is already decided by court (not the ADR or holy) in player's favor (among 4 other cases), yet where's BCG honoring court's ruling? Nah, they evaded jurisdiction, discussed and actually fabricated evidence (and faked company sale, there is also phone call plus evidence for that).

@Lillominato89 - Sorry but court's ruling and trustee's validation is not sufficient confirmation for you that BCG is full blown scam operation? Rven further, them avoiding those rulings and refusing to honor court's decision?

EDIT

Forgot to mention, @BenCodie has also seen fabricated evidence by either BCG or their lawyer at a time, which, once pulled together with that phone call between Mario Galea and Fabiano clearly shows intention of scamming players. Furthermore, BC.game and BCgame.com domains were owned by Blockdance up until December 24th, 20204, so "company being sold to another entity" story is a nice bedtime story for kids or people ignoring the facts...


Just seen I never posted desperate and failed attempt by BC.game to remain naming sponsor of Leicester FC: registering BC.game trademark using another shell company (Flowix Limited), so they could keep their scam operations on float.

https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00004204136