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[Peanutswar]

I'm not sure I understood you correctly. Are you talking about what happens after you click the "I'm not a robot" button?
If so, it displays a spinning circle next to "Verifying" which indicates that you are being verified. Many users may not notice that circle, because its color is very similar to the background.

Having the same trouble sometimes because if I wanted to make a swap and now they added the captcha, sometimes I just open the tab after fill up the details and then get distracted for a while made me overthink once if ever the captcha botton is not showing up because its the same as the background of the platform. I guess id recommend to change at least the background with the loading with white for end user to see its loading even though there is a text of "Verifying"

[DEX.fo_off]

Even earlier, I wanted to suggest to the dex.fo team that they try to do something about the very slow captcha loading. While there is no signal that the process is still ongoing, so the user makes the decision to reload (where the same waiting occurs again) or, in an even worse case, leave the site.

If so, it displays a spinning circle next to "Verifying" which indicates that you are being verified. Many users may not notice that circle, because its color is very similar to the background.

I guess id recommend to change at least the background with the loading with white for end user to see its loading even though there is a text of "Verifying"

Thanks for raising it. We've just tested the CAPTCHA on both the clearnet site and the Tor version — it works fine in both. The check simply needs a few seconds to finish, so there's no need to reload the page or click again: just wait until "Verifying" completes. hosemary and Peanutswar's point about the indicator being hard to see against the background is noted — thanks for the suggestion.

I personally use BNB network for its wide acceptability and lower network fees. Hopefully in near future it will be available on Dex.Fo

BNB is noted along with the other network suggestions. We'll be adding them gradually, starting with the top priorities — we're planning to begin expanding the coin list after New Year.

[examplens]

We've just tested the CAPTCHA on both the clearnet site and the Tor version — it works fine in both. The check simply needs a few seconds to finish, so there's no need to reload the page or click again: just wait until "Verifying" completes.

Now I counted with the timer on. It takes exactly 20 seconds from clicking on the verification request to the verified confirmation. So it's not quite a few seconds.
20 seconds may not seem like too long, but captcha verification usually takes less, and it's not a surprise if users refresh because they think something is wrong. I would consider fixing this.

[SamReomo]

BNB is noted along with the other network suggestions. We'll be adding them gradually, starting with the top priorities — we're planning to begin expanding the coin list after New Year.

New Year isn't that far so most of us will wait for those additions. The platform is already doing very well and after those new networks are added then many new users will prefer to use the platform. To be honest, Dex.fo team is doing very well and hope it will do even better in near future. Thanks for noting the suggestions!

[Etranger]

Likewise, I haven't changed my opinion regarding the small number of both coins, networks, and swap combinations. For USDT, the most expensive networks are presented, whereas it is much more cost-effective to receive it on Solana or Polygon. Why this isn't available is a big question. I think the platform would only benefit if cheaper and faster exchange methods were offered; that would attract more users.

Tron has been a no-go for a while, and I alrady said that it's becoming useless for small transfers with their stupid energy model.
But ERC-20 is dirt cheap right now, it's 10 cents per transfer at max, also... Polygon...there are millions holding ETH, but you can count guys having POL in their wallets in the thousands.
Solana yes, definitely, Polygon or Polkadot, neah!

We can just leave Solana alone, that will be enough. But why is it missing, and instead, super expensive networks were added? Yes, I understand that they correspond more to credibility, but people exchange different amounts. And what is the point of paying more than 10 dollars out of 48, if you can pay a couple of cents for an exchange simply on another network, one that is faster and cheaper?

[DEX.fo_off]

Now I counted with the timer on. It takes exactly 20 seconds from clicking on the verification request to the verified confirmation. So it's not quite a few seconds.

We can just leave Solana alone, that will be enough. But why is it missing, and instead, super expensive networks were added?

New Year isn't that far so most of us will wait for those additions.

Thanks, everyone. On the CAPTCHA: we re-tested right after examplens' post — about 4 seconds on the clearnet site and about 4 seconds via Tor. The difference likely comes from the setup: this CAPTCHA has the browser solve a small computational task, so the time depends on the device, the browser and its extensions. examplens, if you share which browser and device you used, we'll check whether something specific slows it down.

On networks: ERC-20 and TRC-20 went first because that's where most USDT lives and what most users send and receive. Solana is at the top of our list — it's the network people ask for most, and it's among the first we'll add when we start expanding after New Year. Thanks for the patience and the kind words!

[examplens]

Thanks, everyone. On the CAPTCHA: we re-tested right after examplens' post — about 4 seconds on the clearnet site and about 4 seconds via Tor. The difference likely comes from the setup: this CAPTCHA has the browser solve a small computational task, so the time depends on the device, the browser and its extensions. examplens, if you share which browser and device you used, we'll check whether something specific slows it down.

I noticed that later too.
This delay of 20 seconds is on the Chrome browser (m$ win), where I always have 30 tabs open. (yeah, I know  ). A slightly older computer with fairly heavily burdened resources.
I just tried it with Opera and only 20 tabs open; it also took roughly those 20-odd seconds.
However, under the same conditions on one advertising site, Altcha verification only takes 2-4 seconds.

Firefox on macOS solved the same on ^dex.fo Altcha thing for me in a few seconds.

[hosemary]

Thanks, everyone. On the CAPTCHA: we re-tested right after examplens' post — about 4 seconds on the clearnet site and about 4 seconds via Tor. The difference likely comes from the setup: this CAPTCHA has the browser solve a small computational task, so the time depends on the device, the browser and its extensions. examplens, if you share which browser and device you used, we'll check whether something specific slows it down.

It's not only examplens who has to wait that long for the captcha to be solved.
I tested the captcha twice on Chrome and twice on Firefox. It took 25 seconds each time on Chrome and 30 seconds each time on Firefox.

[MarryWithBTC]

We've just tested the CAPTCHA on both the clearnet site and the Tor version — it works fine in both. The check simply needs a few seconds to finish, so there's no need to reload the page or click again: just wait until "Verifying" completes.

Now I counted with the timer on. It takes exactly 20 seconds from clicking on the verification request to the verified confirmation. So it's not quite a few seconds.
20 seconds may not seem like too long, but captcha verification usually takes less, and it's not a surprise if users refresh because they think something is wrong. I would consider fixing this.

I checked from my end on clearnet, chrome browser and it verified at exactly 20 secs.

For you to get verified at 20 secs and it also applied to me means it's not a coincidence, it's the actual timing.
But I want to ask, I'm sorry if it's too basic. - why does this captcha not require us to solve some basic puzzle like other captcha?

Does it use browser prints to check for bots?

[hosemary]

But I want to ask, I'm sorry if it's too basic. - why does this captcha not require us to solve some basic puzzle like other captcha?

That's how ALTCHA works.
I don't know much about how ALTCHA works exactly. I just know that your browser solves a puzzle in the background to verify that you are a human, and it doesn't require you to solve image puzzles.

ALTCHA's official website may be helpful to you: https://altcha.org/

[bitbollo]

What is the best strategy for receive an "exact" amount of dollars making a swap from btc (blockchain - not lightning/second layer)?
Likewise, I have seen some services/payment providers that requires xxxx.xx dollars (exact number) .
Any suggetions on how to make a swap from BTC to USDT and avoid these little discrepancies (likewise accept a "fixed" rate during the exachange as output?)

edit: thanks. yes this is the solution - just wondering there was a direct way from the swap/exchange for doing this

[TryNinja]

What is the best strategy for receive an "exact" amount of dollars making a swap from btc (blockchain - not lightning/second layer)?
Likewise, I have seen some services/payment providers that requires xxxx.xx dollars (exact number) .
Any suggetions on how to make a swap from BTC to USDT and avoid these little discrepancies (likewise accept a "fixed" rate during the exachange as output?)

Swap to your own wallet, and send from there.

I really dislike the idea of sending coins directly from or to a third party. You should always use your wallet in the middle, because things can go badly for N reasons.

Once a service (not dex.fo) had issues and refunded everything back to the address that sent the coins. If you sent from an exchange, you're cooked.

[logfiles]

What is the best strategy for receive an "exact" amount of dollars making a swap from btc (blockchain - not lightning/second layer)?
Likewise, I have seen some services/payment providers that requires xxxx.xx dollars (exact number) .
Any suggetions on how to make a swap from BTC to USDT and avoid these little discrepancies (likewise accept a "fixed" rate during the exachange as output?)

I think I have seen a couple of instant exchanges that can let you put the value you want on the out put side and they will automatically calculate what you have deposit. Say you want exactly 200 USDT. All you do is enter 200 USDT on the receiving side and you will be shown how much BTC you have to send with their rates inclusive.

Sounds like a nice feature, I think DEX.fo should also let users edit the amount from the output side.

[bitbollo]

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Sounds like a nice feature, I think DEX.fo should also let users edit the amount from the output side.

I remember some "swap" services that have been able to provide a "fixed" amount in dollars/altcoins.
I don't know if it is techinically possible, but I would pay a fees for it - a kind of "fixed" rate/exchange service.

Anyway this is a feature that can be "essentiall" for spending bitcoin in some countries - they require to verify the wallet that has made the transaction - if is not the exact sum in USDT...

[examplens]

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Sounds like a nice feature, I think DEX.fo should also let users edit the amount from the output side.

I remember some "swap" services that have been able to provide a "fixed" amount in dollars/altcoins.
I don't know if it is techinically possible, but I would pay a fees for it - a kind of "fixed" rate/exchange service.

Anyway this is a feature that can be "essentiall" for spending bitcoin in some countries - they require to verify the wallet that has made the transaction - if is not the exact sum in USDT...

One option is to give two receiving addresses during the swap, where the exact amount will go to the first address, while the rest will go to the second address. And that could be a good feature.
Another way is to give options for the exact amount + fee, which is a little more difficult to do if the confirmations take a little longer and the exchange rate changes in the middle of the swap.

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[pooya87]

What is the best strategy for receive an "exact" amount of dollars making a swap from btc (blockchain - not lightning/second layer)?
Likewise, I have seen some services/payment providers that requires xxxx.xx dollars (exact number) .
Any suggetions on how to make a swap from BTC to USDT and avoid these little discrepancies (likewise accept a "fixed" rate during the exachange as output?)

I think I have seen a couple of instant exchanges that can let you put the value you want on the out put side and they will automatically calculate what you have deposit. Say you want exactly 200 USDT. All you do is enter 200 USDT on the receiving side and you will be shown how much BTC you have to send with their rates inclusive.

Sounds like a nice feature, I think DEX.fo should also let users edit the amount from the output side.

That would be a useful feature. Usually this is how the usual centralized exchanges do things. You are basically purchasing X amount of some other coin and then the system calculates what you must pay and then deducts that from your CEX balance. That way you can receive the exact amount of that coin that you need. Like buying 1000 Doge with your bitcoins.
That requires a different fee calculation mechanism too so that it deducts the fee from the base coin not what you receive.

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[DEX.fo_off]

This delay of 20 seconds is on the Chrome browser (m$ win), where I always have 30 tabs open. (yeah, I know Cheesy). A slightly older computer with fairly heavily burdened resources.
I just tried it with Opera and only 20 tabs open; it also took roughly those 20-odd seconds.
However, under the same conditions on one advertising site, Altcha verification only takes 2-4 seconds.

It's not only examplens who has to wait that long for the captcha to be solved.
I tested the captcha twice on Chrome and twice on Firefox. It took 25 seconds each time on Chrome and 30 seconds each time on Firefox.

But I want to ask, I'm sorry if it's too basic. - why does this captcha not require us to solve some basic puzzle like other captcha?

Does it use browser prints to check for bots?

Thanks for the detailed tests, everyone. The CAPTCHA works as intended — the check always completes, it just takes longer on some devices and browsers, since the browser itself solves the puzzle. On our side it passes in about 4 seconds, but since several of you see 20–30, we'll look at how to make it faster on more setups.

MarryWithBTC, not a basic question at all. hosemary is right: your browser solves a small math puzzle in the background, so there's nothing to click or pick. And no, it doesn't use browser fingerprinting or cookies — that's one of the reasons we chose ALTCHA over Google's reCAPTCHA.

What is the best strategy for receive an "exact" amount of dollars making a swap from btc (blockchain - not lightning/second layer)?
Likewise, I have seen some services/payment providers that requires xxxx.xx dollars (exact number) .

I think I have seen a couple of instant exchanges that can let you put the value you want on the out put side and they will automatically calculate what you have deposit.

That would be a useful feature. Usually this is how the usual centralized exchanges do things.

Swap to your own wallet, and send from there.

Thanks for the suggestions — including examplens' idea with two receiving addresses. Unfortunately, setting an exact amount on the receiving side isn't something we can offer with how DEX.fo works: the final amount depends on what actually arrives and on the rate at the moment of the swap, which is also why automatic recalculation exists.

TryNinja's advice is the best way to get an exact sum: swap to your own wallet first, then send the exact amount from there. It also keeps you safe if anything ever needs a refund.

[examplens]

Thanks for the suggestions — including examplens' idea with two receiving addresses. Unfortunately, setting an exact amount on the receiving side isn't something we can offer with how DEX.fo works: the final amount depends on what actually arrives and on the rate at the moment of the swap, which is also why automatic recalculation exists.

Since you already have an integrated refund option, is it feasible for the user to determine the exact amount that will be sent to the primary address and the rest for a refund? Sending change to the refund address is done and will be determined after the second confirmation and locking of the exchange rate in the order.
I'm just thinking out loud.
Although in general, I'm not sure how much the requests for such a possibility would justify the additional effort to implement such a feature.