[NRS|NoirShares] POW ENDING at 50k | DACs | MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE 6/23/2014

[bnxkg]

just one day, what happened? where is GOD?

[Jago]

I don't know why that Sr member cry about "premine".
I solomined NRS at the very beginning, and I know that barwizi didn't have a large premine.

[r05]

just one day, what happened? where is GOD?

God?! He can't help you now, sunshine..

[sgi02]

I dunno, this new "community" accusing the nrs of a scam has no proof of it? Often times it is better to just ignore the trolls than it is to feed them. The team is working on the wallet issues, which is a lot more important than dealing with some stupid personal problems.

I am all for shedding light on things. To accuse them of premining, then when someone says it wasn't premined, you say they are lying, yet have no PROOF of them lying and ask for a "real dev" to look at the code. Well shit, how did YOU know it was premined then? Shouldn't you have been a real dev able to look at the code.

To touch upon that, just because the block count is low doesn't mean they can't set the generation of shares to a high figure for the first few blocks. It winds up looking like "if hieght<=10 set generate=10000" or some stupid shit like that, i am not a coder but have seen what laz was talking about in other coins.

Again, trust is something that is earned. I am guessing laz dumped his coins and his share of the general fund and has nothing to lose now by trying to bring the coin down? It is cool for the rest of us... dick. Because without any proof, that is exactly how it looks. Baseless accusations.  

Oh my god! They just copied and pasted someones OPEN SOURCE code. Who gives a shit? In all honesty i would rather have the devs using WORKING code from someone else than try to do something them selves and fail. If you think you can't be successful utilizing what others have done, look up utility patents.

So what is the scam? People bought into the general fund, they bought miners with that money, the used the mining proceeds for what ever, and now the general fund members are upset? Someone supposedly dumped 132k nrs? That is the scam? They used some of the funds from the mining operation to start the noirpool.com which wound up going down and never getting fixed? That is the scam? What were the promises to begin with? It is hard to say things are SCAMS vs. just failures. PROOF?

Some chat logs were posted in the thread last night, which were removed shortly there after (They were quite condemning). There have been several allegations and general questions directed to the dev, to which he has completely ignored. To settle this nonsense, the community has simply asked for an explanation which they have not yet received.

"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...."

The latest issues surrounding NRS are only the half of it...

*The abrupt change to eliminate POW - At least we were given a couple days lead time before the change, but NRS holders had no say in it and furthermore were given no explanation as to the reason for the change.

*Wallet issues - It's already been stated, but the fact still remains. A development team promising a wealth of DAC's with an unheard of level of sophistication can't quite cut it when it comes to a working wallet for their platform. I'm not a coder, but that strikes me as being quite odd.

*Noir Pool - If you read through this thread from the beginning you will see the primary focus for everyone involved was to get more NRS, get more NRS! The Noir Pool was a catalyst to that very idea. I first started to question the NRS team when they claimed this pool was their first DAC, however they quickly edited that statement to "DAC Style" The first release of the Noir Pool wasn't innovative, multiple other pools were using the same interface / back end (hasher.ca)  and it was clunky to say the least. Then, one day, without warning it gone, just gone,. It eventually came back weeks later, but the fact still remains,  this is the only offering that we've seen from the NRS team and its integrity has been questionable from the start.

*Community - I don't feel I need to explain this one. There are users here that have supported NRS since day one and they are a vocal minority. However if you read this thread from start to finish you will see a good deal of cheerleading from new users that have only posted in this thread claiming the dev is a god and NRS is the best thing since sliced bread. On top of that you will begin to find multiple comments being repeated verbatim from different users basically creating a manufactured level of enthusiasm for a coin that hasn't delivered on any promises.

*Noirbits - NRS is the dev's second project after Noirbits (to my knowledge) and it was a colossal train wreck. Check the threads here or even on the official noirbits forum to get an idea what im talking about. Noirbits was a coin with a vision, which failed due to lack of dev involvement and a slew of broken promises. NRS was supposed to revive Noirbits.. somehow, but all questions asked about this, much like the current questions at hand have remained unanswered.

I encourage everyone here to perform there own due diligence and come to their own conclusions regarding the future of NRS. For me its been a fun ride, but im not going down with the ship. Good luck everyone!

[Anduril_FotW]

You are all facing the same issue, rouge nodes that are transmitting incorrect chain. version 60007 is the latest and syncs just fine, please look in your debug log and on "getpeerinfo" in your wallet, find the nodes broadcasting the bad chain and block them. We realised that if we do a complete forced peer block in the first phase of cutting them out, we run the risk of completely fragmenting the chain. This update allows people to sync, the next with a version bump again will completely lock out all other peers. We made a mistake in the first version so we split the update into two, as you can see, some have working wallets and others do not. You'll find that most who are having issues are connecting to the same set of nodes.

Please block the bad nodes in your firewall settings

Control Panel\System and Security\Windows Firewall

then go to advanced settings and modify your invound and out bound rules to block the offending nodes.

Hi Barwizi and others,

Unfortunately I also cheered a little bit too early. After I downloaded the wallet and synced it without problems, I closed and re-opened the wallet and then it was stuck again at 2700 blocks ago and not syncing anymore. Also not after more then an hour.

To try and solve this, I took the following steps (which worked):

1. I cleared everything from my %appdata%\noirshares folder except for the wallet.dat file

2. I used Notepad to create a Noirshares.conf file in my %appdata%\noirshares folder. (if you do this, make sure you save the file as Noirshares.conf while "All files" is selected. Otherwise you might save it as a .txt file)

3. In the Noirshares.conf file, you enter the following text:

checkblocks=1

addnode=ypool.net
addnode=nrs.argakiig.us
addnode=173.236.43.58:39565
addnode=66.69.215.216:64946
addnode=5.9.158.79:47779
addnode=178.125.216.61:63731
addnode=107.170.207.147:8500
addnode=8.38.76.74:8500
addnode=121.185.195.12:8500
addnode=14.201.25.59:8500
addnode=70.114.143.108:8500
addnode=124.168.225.125:50023
addnode=59.55.230.181:59019
addnode=65.128.192.240:8500
addnode=98.250.252.199:8714
addnode=222.242.174.137:11054
addnode=88.8.127.16:49448
addnode=192.99.144.139:59973
addnode=77.28.2.49:44534
addnode=198.101.10.110:8500
addnode=75.143.69.254:8500
addnode=86.163.25.105:59196
addnode=83.227.236.11:63228
addnode=85.243.107.186:51194
addnode=211.149.148.150:58600
addnode=183.66.32.185:61793
addnode=82.66.239.16:50554
addnode=124.231.7.138:6415
addnode=118.186.153.220:55145
addnode=212.117.32.160:63075
addnode=87.231.15.229:54376
addnode=77.185.64.103:51852
addnode=107.170.254.5
addnode= 41.78.77.178
addnode=192.241.213.244
addnode=172.245.183.30
addnode=162.243.131.88
addnode=54.213.71.178
addnode=192.241.213.224
addnode=54.80.61.11
addnode=198.199.96.129
addnode=54.197.175.238


4. Run the Noirshares QT client again and it will start syncing again from the beginning. It might get stuck a few times in the end, but then just close the client and start it again and it should continue to sync.

5. After it has totally finihed syncing, you should be able to open the client again and it should remain up to date.



This should however ofcourse not be necessary and everybody should just be able to download the client and it should just work.
So please DEV's focus your energy on building a completely functioning wallet without all these issues.
After that it would be nice to get some updates on where NRS is going so we can all squash the trolling going on here and built a strong community again.
The last days have not been good for my investment, so let's turn it around guys !

[JakeThePanda]

I believe there was a premine.

... Was there a premine? ...

... There was one pre-mine block at #10...

That is 80 shares, correct?

I never received a good answer for this.

I am trying to complete the entry for NoirShares on my site.

Sorry got lost in the mix, 250k NRS, used for dev salary, bounties, marketing, etc, voted on by board members

hyz

5%. Thanks

[sirsmokesalot]

I dunno, this new "community" accusing the nrs of a scam has no proof of it? Often times it is better to just ignore the trolls than it is to feed them. The team is working on the wallet issues, which is a lot more important than dealing with some stupid personal problems.

I am all for shedding light on things. To accuse them of premining, then when someone says it wasn't premined, you say they are lying, yet have no PROOF of them lying and ask for a "real dev" to look at the code. Well shit, how did YOU know it was premined then? Shouldn't you have been a real dev able to look at the code.

To touch upon that, just because the block count is low doesn't mean they can't set the generation of shares to a high figure for the first few blocks. It winds up looking like "if hieght<=10 set generate=10000" or some stupid shit like that, i am not a coder but have seen what laz was talking about in other coins.

Again, trust is something that is earned. I am guessing laz dumped his coins and his share of the general fund and has nothing to lose now by trying to bring the coin down? It is cool for the rest of us... dick. Because without any proof, that is exactly how it looks. Baseless accusations.  

Oh my god! They just copied and pasted someones OPEN SOURCE code. Who gives a shit? In all honesty i would rather have the devs using WORKING code from someone else than try to do something them selves and fail. If you think you can't be successful utilizing what others have done, look up utility patents.

So what is the scam? People bought into the general fund, they bought miners with that money, the used the mining proceeds for what ever, and now the general fund members are upset? Someone supposedly dumped 132k nrs? That is the scam? They used some of the funds from the mining operation to start the noirpool.com which wound up going down and never getting fixed? That is the scam? What were the promises to begin with? It is hard to say things are SCAMS vs. just failures. PROOF?

Some chat logs were posted in the thread last night, which were removed shortly there after (They were quite condemning). There have been several allegations and general questions directed to the dev, to which he has completely ignored. To settle this nonsense, the community has simply asked for an explanation which they have not yet received.

"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...."

The latest issues surrounding NRS are only the half of it...

*The abrupt change to eliminate POW - At least we were given a couple days lead time before the change, but NRS holders had no say in it and furthermore were given no explanation as to the reason for the change.

*Wallet issues - It's already been stated, but the fact still remains. A development team promising a wealth of DAC's with an unheard of level of sophistication can't quite cut it when it comes to a working wallet for their platform. I'm not a coder, but that strikes me as being quite odd.

*Noir Pool - If you read through this thread from the beginning you will see the primary focus for everyone involved was to get more NRS, get more NRS! The Noir Pool was a catalyst to that very idea. I first started to question the NRS team when they claimed this pool was their first DAC, however they quickly edited that statement to "DAC Style" The first release of the Noir Pool wasn't innovative, multiple other pools were using the same interface / back end (hasher.ca)  and it was clunky to say the least. Then, one day, without warning it gone, just gone,. It eventually came back weeks later, but the fact still remains,  this is the only offering that we've seen from the NRS team and its integrity has been questionable from the start.

*Community - I don't feel I need to explain this one. There are users here that have supported NRS since day one and they are a vocal minority. However if you read this thread from start to finish you will see a good deal of cheerleading from new users that have only posted in this thread claiming the dev is a god and NRS is the best thing since sliced bread. On top of that you will begin to find multiple comments being repeated verbatim from different users basically creating a manufactured level of enthusiasm for a coin that hasn't delivered on any promises.

*Noirbits - NRS is the dev's second project after Noirbits (to my knowledge) and it was a colossal train wreck. Check the threads here or even on the official noirbits forum to get an idea what im talking about. Noirbits was a coin with a vision, which failed due to lack of dev involvement and a slew of broken promises. NRS was supposed to revive Noirbits.. somehow, but all questions asked about this, much like the current questions at hand have remained unanswered.

I encourage everyone here to perform there own due diligence and come to their own conclusions regarding the future of NRS. For me its been a fun ride, but im not going down with the ship. Good luck everyone!

Thank you. That is actual information about the topic instead of segmented thoughts through out the post with missing pieces so they never fully connect. Meh, i am going to continue to hold now instead of selling for a loss. As long as their is progress being made. I don't disagree with what you have said, though there could always be a pump on the coin as a lot of the coin has been liquidated recently. It crashed hard. Like i said, cool if you got out in the last peak and have nothing in there. There has been a fair amount of bullshit about the coin thus far. Maybe it could be taken down the right path?

Is the thread self moderated? Is that why the chat logs were taken down?

[barwizi]

You are all facing the same issue, rouge nodes that are transmitting incorrect chain. version 60007 is the latest and syncs just fine, please look in your debug log and on "getpeerinfo" in your wallet, find the nodes broadcasting the bad chain and block them. We realised that if we do a complete forced peer block in the first phase of cutting them out, we run the risk of completely fragmenting the chain. This update allows people to sync, the next with a version bump again will completely lock out all other peers. We made a mistake in the first version so we split the update into two, as you can see, some have working wallets and others do not. You'll find that most who are having issues are connecting to the same set of nodes.

Please block the bad nodes in your firewall settings

Control Panel\System and Security\Windows Firewall

then go to advanced settings and modify your invound and out bound rules to block the offending nodes.

Hi Barwizi and others,

Unfortunately I also cheered a little bit too early. After I downloaded the wallet and synced it without problems, I closed and re-opened the wallet and then it was stuck again at 2700 blocks ago and not syncing anymore. Also not after more then an hour.

To try and solve this, I took the following steps (which worked):

1. I cleared everything from my %appdata%\noirshares folder except for the wallet.dat file

2. I used Notepad to create a Noirshares.conf file in my %appdata%\noirshares folder. (if you do this, make sure you save the file as Noirshares.conf while "All files" is selected. Otherwise you might save it as a .txt file)

3. In the Noirshares.conf file, you enter the following text:

checkblocks=1

addnode=ypool.net
addnode=nrs.argakiig.us
addnode=173.236.43.58:39565
addnode=66.69.215.216:64946
addnode=5.9.158.79:47779
addnode=178.125.216.61:63731
addnode=107.170.207.147:8500
addnode=8.38.76.74:8500
addnode=121.185.195.12:8500
addnode=14.201.25.59:8500
addnode=70.114.143.108:8500
addnode=124.168.225.125:50023
addnode=59.55.230.181:59019
addnode=65.128.192.240:8500
addnode=98.250.252.199:8714
addnode=222.242.174.137:11054
addnode=88.8.127.16:49448
addnode=192.99.144.139:59973
addnode=77.28.2.49:44534
addnode=198.101.10.110:8500
addnode=75.143.69.254:8500
addnode=86.163.25.105:59196
addnode=83.227.236.11:63228
addnode=85.243.107.186:51194
addnode=211.149.148.150:58600
addnode=183.66.32.185:61793
addnode=82.66.239.16:50554
addnode=124.231.7.138:6415
addnode=118.186.153.220:55145
addnode=212.117.32.160:63075
addnode=87.231.15.229:54376
addnode=77.185.64.103:51852
addnode=107.170.254.5
addnode= 41.78.77.178
addnode=192.241.213.244
addnode=172.245.183.30
addnode=162.243.131.88
addnode=54.213.71.178
addnode=192.241.213.224
addnode=54.80.61.11
addnode=198.199.96.129
addnode=54.197.175.238


4. Run the Noirshares QT client again and it will start syncing again from the beginning. It might get stuck a few times in the end, but then just close the client and start it again and it should continue to sync.

5. After it has totally finihed syncing, you should be able to open the client again and it should remain up to date.



This should however ofcourse not be necessary and everybody should just be able to download the client and it should just work.
So please DEV's focus your energy on building a completely functioning wallet without all these issues.
After that it would be nice to get some updates on where NRS is going so we can all squash the trolling going on here and built a strong community again.
The last days have not been good for my investment, so let's turn it around guys !

Hello

That is weird, but most complaints have been a variation of something to do with the block count, the main issue in such a situation is the inability to resolve to the supported one. We could have released a version with a direct update as i indicated before, but again as i indicated before, we need the real chain to propagate a little more. The issue is simply bad nodes, maybe someone forgot to turn off their zombies or just dont want to be bothered.

The solution is to block the bad nodes, but had we done that outright after we realised the problem, it had the high risk of splitting the crowd between two chains. In a few hours to a day, we'll begin release of a version that completely locks out the bad nodes. Why not do thid in the first place? Because we wre not sure if it was malicious broadcast or just a mistake, and we also needed to ensure that at least more people outside the dev group had a copy of the correct chain to help it keep going and help other sync/download the proper chain. This "limp mode will die by just upping the version number and refusing connections from anything else, the problem if we had done it right off would be.....who would we all sync from? "getpeerinfo" and "starting height in my clients on servers has shown that there are now enough users with the apporpriate chain for it to sustain a final update. While on the issue of the update, there has been talk of adding libzerocoin, if that falls through then the git version will be available in hours.

On to other issues, I have not ignored the accusations levelled against me, rather than be emotionla, i invited the General fund members to join the skype chat where they will find all the information they need. Asking me/Calling me out publicly says very little about some user's business acumen, let alone the baseless accusations.

Those who were here from day one are well aware that there was a premine, some got it in give aways, bounties and "incentives". WHen the project started, i was alone, and since it started i have focused on it and it alone. I have not participated in much discussion on anything else except the group short of maybe five or so posts made here :- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200177.0, a project whose dev and idea i liked. Seeing how since February i have been focused on building the company and infratsructure, at great Personal cost to myself, both time, development and financially, it's quite disturbing to have someone whose time is divided between at least 5 projects point at me and tell me that i am destroying something i work day and night to build.

I keep quiet because, that is how professionals work, when a accusations are made, i make a statement and lay out my case. Currently i am cross checking all BTC expenditure and all investors in the skype group will have immediate access to the document along with supporting statements, including some quotes from the one who started accusing me in the first place.

Then later we wil move to the longer task of accounting for what portion of the premine was spent in supporting the group and setting it up in the first place.

For those who were here in the beginning, they already know how bad it was at the start, there is even a forum where we were thrown "off-topic". I paid and greased a lot of palms to get where we are, both from the premine and from my own pocket. Let us not forget that most of this was done when NRS price was less than a tenth of what it is now. So if someone wanted 1 BTC worth of NRS to complete a job, we practically paid through the nose in NRS.

To all these "indignant" people, i was here when NRS was a figment of an imagination and i am here still, working and pushing ideas and projects out like i'm in a snake pit. If you are so easily swayed by one person using a sock puppet to hide their true identity, you are the one with an issue, not I. because if someone has genuine concerns, why hide behind a new account? I launched NRB, which has almost tanked (dont worry my NRB guys I've got your back https://github.com/NoirX/Noirbits-2.0v1 ) then as i matured and learned i refined my ideas, up until i got here.

I will continue to work in my usual manner, nice and decisive, and will produce products for those who choose to stay. This is not a pump and dump, as much as other would love it to be. In the end, we'll see who lasts longer, trolls or someone committed to the development of his idea.

I'll probably update you on wallet progress here then past that, it will just be development progress updates. All Gf members who wish to be present for the show of accounts, please Pm me your skype names.

[Frigga77]

I believe there was a premine.

... Was there a premine? ...

... There was one pre-mine block at #10...

That is 80 shares, correct?

I never received a good answer for this.

I am trying to complete the entry for NoirShares on my site.

Sorry got lost in the mix, 250k NRS, used for dev salary, bounties, marketing, etc, voted on by board members

hyz

5%. Thanks

I found out just now by checking the blockexplorer, indeed block 10. I really did not know there had been a premine, I just checked the front page of this topic and saw it was stated there also:
* 250k seed for corporate development, bounties, salaries, marketing, etc, approved expenses voted on by board members
Although the premine is accounted for (and hopefully a specification will be given to the Stakeholders), I feel a little bit disappointed that there was not more openness about it, it was not mentioned in the initial NoirShares thread...

[lajz99]

Hello

That is weird, but most complaints have been a variation of something to do with the block count, the main issue in such a situation is the inability to resolve to the supported one. We could have released a version with a direct update as i indicated before, but again as i indicated before, we need the real chain to propagate a little more. The issue is simply bad nodes, maybe someone forgot to turn off their zombies or just dont want to be bothered.

The solution is to block the bad nodes, but had we done that outright after we realised the problem, it had the high risk of splitting the crowd between two chains. In a few hours to a day, we'll begin release of a version that completely locks out the bad nodes. Why not do thid in the first place? Because we wre not sure if it was malicious broadcast or just a mistake, and we also needed to ensure that at least more people outside the dev group had a copy of the correct chain to help it keep going and help other sync/download the proper chain. This "limp mode will die by just upping the version number and refusing connections from anything else, the problem if we had done it right off would be.....who would we all sync from? "getpeerinfo" and "starting height in my clients on servers has shown that there are now enough users with the apporpriate chain for it to sustain a final update. While on the issue of the update, there has been talk of adding libzerocoin, if that falls through then the git version will be available in hours.

On to other issues, I have not ignored the accusations levelled against me, rather than be emotionla, i invited the General fund members to join the skype chat where they will find all the information they need. Asking me/Calling me out publicly says very little about some user's business acumen, let alone the baseless accusations.

Those who were here from day one are well aware that there was a premine, some got it in give aways, bounties and "incentives". WHen the project started, i was alone, and since it started i have focused on it and it alone. I have not participated in much discussion on anything else except the group short of maybe five or so posts made here :- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200177.0, a project whose dev and idea i liked. Seeing how since February i have been focused on building the company and infratsructure, at great Personal cost to myself, both time, development and financially, it's quite disturbing to have someone whose time is divided between at least 5 projects point at me and tell me that i am destroying something i work day and night to build.

I keep quiet because, that is how professionals work, when a accusations are made, i make a statement and lay out my case. Currently i am cross checking all BTC expenditure and all investors in the skype group will have immediate access to the document along with supporting statements, including some quotes from the one who started accusing me in the first place.

Then later we wil move to the longer task of accounting for what portion of the premine was spent in supporting the group and setting it up in the first place.

For those who were here in the beginning, they already know how bad it was at the start, there is even a forum where we were thrown "off-topic". I paid and greased a lot of palms to get where we are, both from the premine and from my own pocket. Let us not forget that most of this was done when NRS price was less than a tenth of what it is now. So if someone wanted 1 BTC worth of NRS to complete a job, we practically paid through the nose in NRS.

To all these "indignant" people, i was here when NRS was a figment of an imagination and i am here still, working and pushing ideas and projects out like i'm in a snake pit. If you are so easily swayed by one person using a sock puppet to hide their true identity, you are the one with an issue, not I. because if someone has genuine concerns, why hide behind a new account? I launched NRB, which has almost tanked (dont worry my NRB guys I've got your back https://github.com/NoirX/Noirbits-2.0v1 ) then as i matured and learned i refined my ideas, up until i got here.

I will continue to work in my usual manner, nice and decisive, and will produce products for those who choose to stay. This is not a pump and dump, as much as other would love it to be. In the end, we'll see who lasts longer, trolls or someone committed to the development of his idea.

I'll probably update you on wallet progress here then past that, it will just be development progress updates. All Gf members who wish to be present for the show of accounts, please Pm me your skype names.

ANOTHER BULLSHIT REPLY WITH ABSOLUTELY 0 INFORMATION AND NO RESPONSES TO ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED.

I WAS ALSO MINING FROM DAY 1 AND WITH THE GROUP SHORTLY THERE AFTER AND THERE WAS NEVER, EVER ANY TALK OF PAYING ANYONE FOR ANY WORK THAT WAS DONE OTHER THAN THE POOL.

WHY WILL YOU NOT PUBLICLY POST WHERE THE FUNDS ARE BEING HELD?  BECAUSE THERE ARE NO FUNDS?

[LemonAndFries]

So I'm deciding that fuck this
I will be posting the info soon.

 To all the investors:

We have been scammed.  We have been funding this idiot's lifestyle, start pulling out because shit is about to hit the fan.

Not even all those youtube tutorials that barwizi was looking up can help him save his shit coin.

I refuse to let another scammer get away with it, enough is enough!

[LemonAndFries]

Hello

That is weird, but most complaints have been a variation of something to do with the block count, the main issue in such a situation is the inability to resolve to the supported one. We could have released a version with a direct update as i indicated before, but again as i indicated before, we need the real chain to propagate a little more. The issue is simply bad nodes, maybe someone forgot to turn off their zombies or just dont want to be bothered.

The solution is to block the bad nodes, but had we done that outright after we realised the problem, it had the high risk of splitting the crowd between two chains. In a few hours to a day, we'll begin release of a version that completely locks out the bad nodes. Why not do thid in the first place? Because we wre not sure if it was malicious broadcast or just a mistake, and we also needed to ensure that at least more people outside the dev group had a copy of the correct chain to help it keep going and help other sync/download the proper chain. This "limp mode will die by just upping the version number and refusing connections from anything else, the problem if we had done it right off would be.....who would we all sync from? "getpeerinfo" and "starting height in my clients on servers has shown that there are now enough users with the apporpriate chain for it to sustain a final update. While on the issue of the update, there has been talk of adding libzerocoin, if that falls through then the git version will be available in hours.

On to other issues, I have not ignored the accusations levelled against me, rather than be emotionla, i invited the General fund members to join the skype chat where they will find all the information they need. Asking me/Calling me out publicly says very little about some user's business acumen, let alone the baseless accusations.

Those who were here from day one are well aware that there was a premine, some got it in give aways, bounties and "incentives". WHen the project started, i was alone, and since it started i have focused on it and it alone. I have not participated in much discussion on anything else except the group short of maybe five or so posts made here :- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200177.0, a project whose dev and idea i liked. Seeing how since February i have been focused on building the company and infratsructure, at great Personal cost to myself, both time, development and financially, it's quite disturbing to have someone whose time is divided between at least 5 projects point at me and tell me that i am destroying something i work day and night to build.

I keep quiet because, that is how professionals work, when a accusations are made, i make a statement and lay out my case. Currently i am cross checking all BTC expenditure and all investors in the skype group will have immediate access to the document along with supporting statements, including some quotes from the one who started accusing me in the first place.

Then later we wil move to the longer task of accounting for what portion of the premine was spent in supporting the group and setting it up in the first place.

For those who were here in the beginning, they already know how bad it was at the start, there is even a forum where we were thrown "off-topic". I paid and greased a lot of palms to get where we are, both from the premine and from my own pocket. Let us not forget that most of this was done when NRS price was less than a tenth of what it is now. So if someone wanted 1 BTC worth of NRS to complete a job, we practically paid through the nose in NRS.

To all these "indignant" people, i was here when NRS was a figment of an imagination and i am here still, working and pushing ideas and projects out like i'm in a snake pit. If you are so easily swayed by one person using a sock puppet to hide their true identity, you are the one with an issue, not I. because if someone has genuine concerns, why hide behind a new account? I launched NRB, which has almost tanked (dont worry my NRB guys I've got your back https://github.com/NoirX/Noirbits-2.0v1 ) then as i matured and learned i refined my ideas, up until i got here.

I will continue to work in my usual manner, nice and decisive, and will produce products for those who choose to stay. This is not a pump and dump, as much as other would love it to be. In the end, we'll see who lasts longer, trolls or someone committed to the development of his idea.

I'll probably update you on wallet progress here then past that, it will just be development progress updates. All Gf members who wish to be present for the show of accounts, please Pm me your skype names.

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU LIVE A LIFE OF LUXURY, BUT WORK FOR IT!

SO FAR ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS LOOK UP SOME YOUTUBE TUTORIALS.

YOU'RE NOT EVEN A REAL DEV

I DON'T PLAN TO KEEP FUNDING A LAZY MOTHERFUCKER'S LIFESTYLE

 FUCK THAT SHIT

[Bowwow]

I don't understand why these people think NRS is a scam..

NRS is a DAC shares; it requires a lot of funds and development. Premine was not a secret, and it was necessary to build an awesome Shares that we have now.

I hope the dev team is not discouraged by all these FUDs. Their energy needs to be spent on development, not on explaining all these accusations.

If you're looking for a pump and dump coin, then NRS is not a good investment. But people will be dying to get more DAC shares soon or later.

 

[lajz99]

I don't understand why these people think NRS is a scam..

NRS is a DAC shares; it requires a lot of funds and development. Premine was not a secret, and it was necessary to build an awesome Shares that we have now.

I hope the dev team is not discouraged by all these FUDs. Their energy needs to be spent on development, not on explaining all these accusations.

If you're looking for a pump and dump coin, then NRS is not a good investment. But people will be dying to get more DAC shares soon or later.

This is your first post, shill, what you say doesn't mean shit...

[LemonAndFries]

I don't understand why these people think NRS is a scam..

NRS is a DAC shares; it requires a lot of funds and development. Premine was not a secret, and it was necessary to build an awesome Shares that we have now.

I hope the dev team is not discouraged by all these FUDs. Their energy needs to be spent on development, not on explaining all these accusations.

If you're looking for a pump and dump coin, then NRS is not a good investment. But people will be dying to get more DAC shares soon or later.

 

I didnt even notice the age of the account

BARWIZI PUPPET MASTER OF THE SOCK PUPPETS:

is one account not enough for your scam?

[Bowwow]

I don't understand why these people think NRS is a scam..

NRS is a DAC shares; it requires a lot of funds and development. Premine was not a secret, and it was necessary to build an awesome Shares that we have now.

I hope the dev team is not discouraged by all these FUDs. Their energy needs to be spent on development, not on explaining all these accusations.

If you're looking for a pump and dump coin, then NRS is not a good investment. But people will be dying to get more DAC shares soon or later.

 

I didnt even notice the age of the account

BARWIZI PUPPET MASTER OF THE SOCK PUPPETS:

is one account not enough for your scam?

Well, I've been reading and buying NRS since almost the beginning, I don't have much but know the history. I signed up to tell you who's acting like a girl that NRS is cool

Edited: not to you LemonandFries, this is for lajz99 !!

[LemonAndFries]

I don't understand why these people think NRS is a scam..

NRS is a DAC shares; it requires a lot of funds and development. Premine was not a secret, and it was necessary to build an awesome Shares that we have now.

I hope the dev team is not discouraged by all these FUDs. Their energy needs to be spent on development, not on explaining all these accusations.

If you're looking for a pump and dump coin, then NRS is not a good investment. But people will be dying to get more DAC shares soon or later.

 

I didnt even notice the age of the account

BARWIZI PUPPET MASTER OF THE SOCK PUPPETS:

is one account not enough for your scam?

Well, I've been reading and buying NRS since almost the beginning, I don't have much but know the history. I signed up to tell you who's acting like a girl that NRS is cool

stfu Bariwizi, go back to your youtube tutorials

[LemonAndFries]

Here's the proof, fuck this lazy ass scammer



To all the GF members:

Sorry, but it had to be done.

I am losing a lot also but I refuse to see another person strung along to fuel this asshole's lifestyle

It's not right.

[Bowwow]

I don't understand why these people think NRS is a scam..

NRS is a DAC shares; it requires a lot of funds and development. Premine was not a secret, and it was necessary to build an awesome Shares that we have now.

I hope the dev team is not discouraged by all these FUDs. Their energy needs to be spent on development, not on explaining all these accusations.

If you're looking for a pump and dump coin, then NRS is not a good investment. But people will be dying to get more DAC shares soon or later.

 

I didnt even notice the age of the account

BARWIZI PUPPET MASTER OF THE SOCK PUPPETS:

is one account not enough for your scam?

Well, I've been reading and buying NRS since almost the beginning, I don't have much but know the history. I signed up to tell you who's acting like a girl that NRS is cool

stfu Bariwizi, go back to your youtube tutorials

I'm now Barwizi? lol
send me a private message, we can be Facebook friends.
btw, what are you still doing here? is it like a noble intention to alarm people from scam dev? or are you just angry that price of NRS went down.
Just wondering...

[kenboy]

the price on bc38 did not look good..