[BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014

[tifozi]

I do have an idea for a totally different way of implementing Keccak on GPU than what's been done so far; dunno if it'll work, though, or if it'll be faster if it does.

Regardless of if it'll be faster (or even if it'll work) or not, this Darwinian process sounds exciting!

It's all an excuse for him to post his NSFW pics haha

[sonoIO]

I put some buys orders on polo

They can be seen from outer space  

Hey!  I was not done with my averaging down.

I do have an idea for a totally different way of implementing Keccak on GPU than what's been done so far; dunno if it'll work, though, or if it'll be faster if it does.

Regardless of if it'll be faster (or even if it'll work) or not, this Darwinian process sounds exciting!

It's all an excuse for him to post his NSFW pics haha

That's why everyone closely follow his work  

[Quicken]

I think "Rings" is a GREAT name.

I can't believe no cryptonote coins choose it ! It's rings signature for christ sake!

Bool Ring or Boolring might be better. Adaptation of the current name, but with the ring signature hint. Also, sounds like bullring for newbie curiosity.

[carloss]

+1 for Rings

[jwinterm]

+1 for Rings

Rings (XRN) or (XRG) +1

Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

The official cryptocoin of Mordor, accepted at volcanoes everywhere

[maxcan]

i'm not a fan of 'rings'; doesn't smack much of a currency and isn't at all indicative of what bbr can offer that other notes don't. can you see yourself spending 0.5 rings on something? is that a semicircle instead?  

if we're going to rename then take some time to consider what makes bbr special and go from there. a less-silly name doesn't automatically equate to a better-fitting one.

[sonoIO]

I like the idea of Rings, but i suppose the name should be unique, and probably as international as possible.

"orbis" is Latin word for a ring, "orbes" is plural. Orbes is also accusative, which then means “with rings”. To make it unique, it may be combined with bool to make e.g. Orbooles. Orbes for short (XOB)

Interestingly enough, in all modern roman based languages “or” (and “oro”) means gold. So e.g. to a Frenchman Orbooles may sound like GoldBooles.

That was my 2 sat. I may miss Boolberry though, kinda liked it from the start.

[maxcan]

"orbis" is Latin word for a ring, "orbes" is plural. Orbes is also accusative, which then means “with rings”. To make it unique, it may be combined with bool to make e.g. Orbooles. Orbes for short (XOB)

interesting; i wonder if that's where 'orb and 'orbit' come from in english  

Interestingly enough, in all modern roman based languages “or” (and “oro”) means gold. So e.g. to a Frenchman Orbooles may sound like GoldBooles.

the obol was a silver coin used in ancient greece!

That was my 2 sat. I may miss Boolberry though, kinda liked it from the start.

it's grown on me too. but a lot of outside investors seem to not like the name.

i urge everyone to come up with a name that will stick, since honeypenny was renamed to boolberry in the first place. think of what makes a name professional, and (if possible) what will portray bbr's unique qualities.

[sonoIO]

The obol was a silver coin used in ancient greece!

Me like Obool, modern silver

[digicoin]

Somehow I missed this. Are you suggesting that the odds of rebranding are better or did you mean better odds of the price going up? If rebranding, then wow!

re branding + different pow to save coin

agree about rebranding
but don't agree about pow, i still believe that our approach have future

GPU-miners gonna help to stand against botnets, but as you may be know - memory

As i could see - monero have this problem at that moment, very hight difficluty and price is still dumped.

+1000. Our PoW is good enough. Don't change it. New good name is more urgent. What about LibertyNote?

[tifozi]

I suspect the team has already thought about the specifics of the rebranding but it is fun to speculate and try to one up them ! I don't think any name is "bad" per se, it is hard to come up with genuinely good names.

I think the coin name should reflect the privacy aura around it. Coin/Notes/Gold/Bit etc lack the wow factor imo.

[dga]

Somehow I missed this. Are you suggesting that the odds of rebranding are better or did you mean better odds of the price going up? If rebranding, then wow!

re branding + different pow to save coin

agree about rebranding
but don't agree about pow, i still believe that our approach have future

GPU-miners gonna help to stand against botnets, but as you may be know - memory

As i could see - monero have this problem at that moment, very hight difficluty and price is still dumped.

+1000. Our PoW is good enough. Don't change it. New good name is more urgent. What about LibertyNote?

Concur.  The only "problem" with the PoW was that it was new, and thus, went through the same private-optimization growing pains that every other new PoW does.  There are one or two little things I'd tweak in it in a second version, but they're tiny and Zoidberg knows about them.   It doesn't have any obvious flaws in terms of being DRAM bandwidth-limited as far as an ASIC implementation goes (asterisk).

(asterisk) - there are some two to four-year-out technology trends (stacked DRAM) that will probably make it feasible to make ASICs for all of the cryptonote family and most other memory-limited coins, but the same trends will probably show up *first* in Intel's CPUs and Nvidia's GPUs, and the manufacturing challenges will make them less attractive for something as niche as coins. 

(double asterisk) - probably doesn't matter anyway.  It people spend a billion bucks on hardware just to mine Boolberry, then the coin has won, and a ton of people are able to take advantage of its privacy features.  That'd be cool.

[jl777]

XMR/BBR ratio went from 3:1 to 12:1 in a very short time, but did anything fundamental change?
I think no.
I put 30 BTC of buy walls for the daily dumper
So far no nibbles, but the day is not over. At least I hope to provide a floor, dropping from top 100 is just so embarassing. what is this ducknote thing??

Anyway, I am busy working on other projects, but crypto_zoidberg is quality dev and quality guy, so I know it is just a matter of time for XMR/BBR to reach 1:1 and even beyond.
We just need to wait for XMR dataset to exceed 4GB and all the 32bit windows users getting crashes. At the rate of blockchain growth, that is but a few months away.

Then people will look for a better solution and realize BBR is already been here

James

[smooth]

We just need to wait for XMR dataset to exceed 4GB and all the 32bit windows users getting crashes. At the rate of blockchain growth, that is but a few months away.

32 bit windows has a 2gb user address space not 4gb and hasn't worked with xmr for months. Don't wait for this.

[crypto_zoidberg]

CUDA miner with stratum support - Github link in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=693118.msg8239797#msg8239797

Great news!!!
Thanks a lot!

i'm really interested, if you CUDA is better than cbuchner's CUDA or not ?

[crypto_zoidberg]

We just need to wait for XMR dataset to exceed 4GB and all the 32bit windows users getting crashes. At the rate of blockchain growth, that is but a few months away.

32 bit windows has a 2gb user address space not 4gb and hasn't worked with xmr for months. Don't wait for this.

btw: i saw today that you found a bug with time_t used in nodetool::peerlist_entry, so it seems that you still have running instances with 32-bit... or did i miss something ?

[crypto_zoidberg]

CUDA miner with stratum support - Github link in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=693118.msg8239797#msg8239797

Great news!!!
Thanks a lot!

i'm really interested, if you CUDA is better than cbuchner's CUDA or not ?

It is, according to him. He got 730kh/s or so on a stock 750Ti, I got 790kh/s on the same.

And... this was when scratchpad was much smaller than now, so i guess your's miner is much faster. Great Job!

[jl777]

We just need to wait for XMR dataset to exceed 4GB and all the 32bit windows users getting crashes. At the rate of blockchain growth, that is but a few months away.

32 bit windows has a 2gb user address space not 4gb and hasn't worked with xmr for months. Don't wait for this.

yes, but 32 bits is 4 gb, so exceeding that creates even more issues
Is there objective analysis of the growth rate of XMR memory usage (not just compressed filesize but system RAM usage) based on time, tx vs. BBR?

[Anotheranonlol]

Concur.  The only "problem" with the PoW was that it was new, and thus, went through the same private-optimization growing pains that every other new PoW does.  There are one or two little things I'd tweak in it in a second version, but they're tiny and Zoidberg knows about them.   It doesn't have any obvious flaws in terms of being DRAM bandwidth-limited as far as an ASIC implementation goes (asterisk).

(asterisk) - there are some two to four-year-out technology trends (stacked DRAM) that will probably make it feasible to make ASICs for all of the cryptonote family and most other memory-limited coins, but the same trends will probably show up *first* in Intel's CPUs and Nvidia's GPUs, and the manufacturing challenges will make them less attractive for something as niche as coins.  

(double asterisk) - probably doesn't matter anyway.  It people spend a billion bucks on hardware just to mine Boolberry, then the coin has won, and a ton of people are able to take advantage of its privacy features.  That'd be cool.

I know pretty much nothing about mining or harware, as I understand (perhaps incorrectly) SRAM will be cost prohibitive for building wild keccak asic, nobody has publicly found any time-memory-tradeoff & stacked DRAM like you say will be present in consumer level hw like nvidia pascal and volta 1st meaning any asic builder will be wasting their time and $, anyway no reason for such a tiny market cap.

CUDA miner with stratum support - Github link in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=693118.msg8239797#msg8239797

Great work!. Nice to see you release this publically.

XMR/BBR ratio went from 3:1 to 12:1 in a very short time, but did anything fundamental change?
I think no.
I put 30 BTC of buy walls for the daily dumper
So far no nibbles, but the day is not over. At least I hope to provide a floor, dropping from top 100 is just so embarassing. what is this ducknote thing??
James

No fundamental changes. It was never hyped and pumped to warrant such a dump in the first place.  I will join you and add some volume to the bid side too as well later, will give a routine dumper something more meaty to munch on, Kind of hope you get yours filled in the 0.002x range first though while we are below shit like applecoin, razorcoin, uro, billioncoin.. can't anticipate it staying below for long

[jl777]

No fundamental changes. It was never hyped and pumped to warrant such a dump in the first place.  I will join you and add some volume to the bid side too as well later, will give a routine dumper something more meaty to munch on, Kind of hope you get yours filled in the 0.002x range first though while we are below shit like applecoin, razorcoin, uro, billioncoin.. can't anticipate it staying below

so this could be action not from "crazy miner", but rather "evil competitor" who just sells some relatively small amounts and lower and lower prices. How much did the sustained selling cost the daily dumper? Maybe 50 BTC at most. Small price to pay if you can kill off a competitive coin that has better tech.

Now it will cost 30 BTC just to get past my walls and curiously there was no daily dump into it, so now that the cost is increasing a lot for this financial attack, BBR can be restored to its rightful place.

Now, there is only 36 BTC on the buy side and 30 BTC is from me. So, all the people that say they arent technical or cant do websites to help, just put a bid in on polo. Any price near the market is good. The more it costs the daily dumper to move the price, the less likely he is to dump. After all how many coins can he possibly have?

The whole theory that this is a crazy miner just doesnt make sense to me. Maybe amazon cloud is finding coins using private miner but 10 times cheaper? highly doubtful. This is why I have this theory and i am testing with 30 BTC. So, if this wall is not touched we are nearly convinced it is not a crazy miner. I already have plenty of BBR so I will not be moving my bids higher, if anything I will start lowering it, so if it is crazy miner, you better fill the bids before I start lowering the price

James