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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4670885 times)
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October 12, 2015, 08:04:56 PM
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thx for your answers guys! I will check it out.

I'm learning a lot. Trying to understand instantX, masternodes and darksend works (DASH)
and now I need to learn about monero too. It seems a lot more complicated, but will try to understand it.

good to hear that there are at least active developers. if I have any questions regarding monero, I'll return here.
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October 12, 2015, 09:20:55 PM
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Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) for Monero: A work in progress, comments welcome

https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/blob/master/RingCT0.1_copy.pdf

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/

Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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October 13, 2015, 03:11:29 AM
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Is it time to buy Monero?

U can read an analysis here.

http://bitcoinbcn.blogspot.com.es/2015/10/es-el-momento-de-comprar-monero-xmr.html

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October 13, 2015, 04:00:55 AM
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Is it time to buy Monero? Yes.
Investing 101: "Buy low, sell high." (but I'm in it for more than an investment)

Comparison of Privacy-Centric Coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php also includes Verge and Pivx
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October 13, 2015, 04:13:14 AM
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Is it time to buy Monero? Yes.
Investing 101: "Buy low, sell high." (but I'm in it for more than an investment)

bits from the americanpegasus interview are resonating strongly today, the Monero devs just published what will be an even better, safer and more private form of transactions, we are talking about taking care of the fine details here, this is unheard of, any chance a sidechain or zerocash had of trying to adventure in this niche was limited and just became almost nil.

I would say this is the best time ever (relatively low prices + tsunami of good developments from many sides).
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October 13, 2015, 09:18:39 AM
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I'm on page 6 that is discussing a proof but I'm lost. I was able to follow pretty well up until page 5 but there are so many things going on that I just got lost.

If anyone can explain it to me I would appreciate it. I'm sure I could figure it out if I spent enough time thinking about it and rereading it over and over.

But my brain is tired  Smiley

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October 13, 2015, 09:31:21 AM
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Looks like the CT paper is not finished.

Some of the order of defining variables and symbols etc comes after they are used (which is frustrating). Usually they are defined before they are used.

There are like 3 or 4 sections that were not finished:

4. Tag Linkability
5. Exculpability
6. Unforgeability

Not sure if this was left unfinished intentionally or if there will be an update to this paper.

There is a lot going on in the paper and I spend probably 2 hours over the course of today trying to follow what is going on in it. Was able to follow most of it but on page 6 and 7 Shen lost me.

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October 13, 2015, 10:21:34 AM
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shipping cost to the U.S.?

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October 13, 2015, 10:27:36 AM
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shipping cost to the U.S.?
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The shipping package is heavy and big with good isolation all around the painting.
Shipping to U.S is 45 USD.
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October 13, 2015, 10:50:54 AM
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Looks like the CT paper is not finished.

Correct (and on the reddit post it says "work in progress"!)
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October 13, 2015, 10:59:23 AM
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"Esa corrección anuló completamente el movimiento de subida y lo llevó de los máximos en 0,01 a un mínimo de 0,0001. Aquí lo vemos en el gráfico."

" hemos visto ya como en el pasado la cotización de la moneda caía hasta 0,0001 que es más de 8 veces inferior a ese 0,00131."

The lowest value of monero was not 0.0001. You better redo that analysis.
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October 13, 2015, 11:41:37 AM
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"Esa corrección anuló completamente el movimiento de subida y lo llevó de los máximos en 0,01 a un mínimo de 0,0001. Aquí lo vemos en el gráfico."

" hemos visto ya como en el pasado la cotización de la moneda caía hasta 0,0001 que es más de 8 veces inferior a ese 0,00131."

The lowest value of monero was not 0.0001. You better redo that analysis.

You are right with this number...the correct number is 0,00091 but dnt change the analysis. Monero is now down because its in the middle of shorts. One investor or trader need a return figure...inverted HCH...double floor...but can't buy in the middle of the dump. Sure u understand this. Thanks.

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October 13, 2015, 11:54:29 AM
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MONERO's CUBE WALLET.



Silver made. PM me if any one is interested.
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October 13, 2015, 12:20:11 PM
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"Esa corrección anuló completamente el movimiento de subida y lo llevó de los máximos en 0,01 a un mínimo de 0,0001. Aquí lo vemos en el gráfico."

" hemos visto ya como en el pasado la cotización de la moneda caía hasta 0,0001 que es más de 8 veces inferior a ese 0,00131."

The lowest value of monero was not 0.0001. You better redo that analysis.

You are right with this number...the correct number is 0,00091 but dnt change the analysis. Monero is now down because its in the middle of shorts. One investor or trader need a return figure...inverted HCH...double floor...but can't buy in the middle of the dump. Sure u understand this. Thanks.

I am not a trader but it seems to me that there is a lot more risk involved in getting on in a price point 15 times higher than the lowest value compared to "just" 1.7 times that low value.
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October 13, 2015, 04:50:20 PM
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I am not a trader but it seems to me that there is a lot more risk involved in getting on in a price point 15 times higher than the lowest value compared to "just" 1.7 times that low value.

This depends on the time frame. For a buy and hold investor absolutely, For a day trader on margin in many cases no.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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October 13, 2015, 06:39:59 PM
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I opened a new unmoderated speculation thread for Monero, since I believe in free speach and I also think it will go well with this community!

Feel free to take part in the discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206369.msg12678112#msg12678112
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October 13, 2015, 07:37:56 PM
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lol Smiley

free speach = free trolling

Monero is so good the only trolling that could work is reverse trolling.

into le ignore it goes Wink
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October 13, 2015, 07:43:44 PM
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I opened a new unmoderated speculation thread for Monero, since I believe in free speach and I also think it will go well with this community!

Feel free to take part in the discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206369.msg12678112#msg12678112

lol Smiley

free speach = free trolling

Monero is so good the only trolling that could work is reverse trolling.

into le ignore it goes Wink



More like... Belongs in the trash!  Tongue
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October 13, 2015, 07:58:51 PM
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free speach = free trolling


I thought iCEBREAKER, Smooth and the more prominent Monero community members who are using Bitcointalk on a daily basis are supporting freedom of speech  Huh
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October 13, 2015, 08:09:13 PM
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I tried out darksend today. Seems to work pretty well.

I will start downloading the monero wallet now so I can compare.
I don't want to use the webwallet, because I don't know if that somehow can speed up the process because you depend on the node of the service.
I want to test the the decentralized mixing so I'm able to compare with dash.

I'll report tomorrow!


PS: I don't know anything about those 'confidential transactions', but I guess it's a good thing to add some more features to make it more anonymous.
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