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June 05, 2014, 12:21:27 AM |
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WTF is your problem, this is not a MYR thread, we don't care, please go away.
This. i don't understand why the original post was even made. It has no relationship to Monero at all. This is not a spam thread. If it persists we will have to switch to self-moderated. Nobody wants that but irrelevant spam and two pages of posts responding to spam can't be allowed to continue.
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Polycoin
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June 05, 2014, 12:24:42 AM |
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WTF is your problem, this is not a MYR thread, we don't care, please go away.
This. i don't understand why the original post was even made. It has no relationship to Monero at all. This is not a spam thread. If it persists we will have to switch to self-moderated. Nobody wants that but irrelevant spam and two pages of posts responding to spam can't be allowed to continue. Making a self moderated thread for this coin would be the dumbest thing you can possibly do. As soon as you make that self moderated thread, there'll be others making a unmoderated thread to voice their biased opinions, just because you made a self moderated thread.... Not to mention it makes it seem as if the coin is ruled by you, as you decide who has a say on the thread and who doesn't. While you may be an open person that allows others to voice their opinions, a self moderated thread would make it seem the exact opposite.
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Zer0Sum
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June 05, 2014, 12:25:38 AM |
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WTF is your problem, this is not a MYR thread, we don't care, please go away.
This. i don't understand why the original post was even made. It has no relationship to Monero at all. This is not a spam thread. If it persists we will have to switch to self-moderated. Nobody wants that but irrelevant spam and two pages of posts responding to spam can't be allowed to continue. All deleted.
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smooth
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June 05, 2014, 12:28:06 AM |
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WTF is your problem, this is not a MYR thread, we don't care, please go away.
This. i don't understand why the original post was even made. It has no relationship to Monero at all. This is not a spam thread. If it persists we will have to switch to self-moderated. Nobody wants that but irrelevant spam and two pages of posts responding to spam can't be allowed to continue. Making a self moderated thread for this coin would be the dumbest thing you can possibly do. As soon as you make that self moderated thread, there'll be others making a unmoderated thread to voice their biased opinions, just because you made a self moderated thread.... Not to mention it makes it seem as if the coin is ruled by you, as you decide who has a say on the thread and who doesn't. While you may be an open person that allows others to voice their opinions, a self moderated thread would make it seem the exact opposite. All opinions on Monero are welcome and even encouraged, including negative ones. Off topic spam posts are not welcome. Even with a self-moderated thread there are mirror sites where one can see what was deleted. Only off topic spam posts would ever be deleted, not on-topic but critical ones. There is no issue of transparency or suppressing opposing views. As I said it is not my first choice but it is not acceptable to have pages and pages of off topic noise that makes this thread unworkable as a Monero thread for people who are actually interested in Monero and especially people looking for help with Monero.
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surfer43
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June 05, 2014, 12:30:49 AM |
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All opinions on Monero are welcome and even encouraged, including negative ones. Off topic spam posts are not welcome.
Even with a self-moderated thread there are mirror sites where one can see what was deleted. Only off topic spam posts would ever be deleted, not on-topic but critical ones. There is no issue of transparency or suppressing opposing views.
As I said it is not my first choice but it is not acceptable to have pages and pages of off topic noise that makes this thread unworkable as a Monero thread for people who are actually interested in Monero and especially people looking for help with Monero.
Pages and pages of off topic noise are certain. Time for a forum..
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June 05, 2014, 12:31:09 AM |
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Anyone else seeing pretty much a 1:1 parity with investment on hardware / running costs / mining speeds with the GPU miner? Maybe a little edge on CPU, but the gap is so close.
That's incredible.
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surfer43
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June 05, 2014, 12:32:26 AM |
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Anyone else seeing pretty much a 1:1 parity with investment on hardware / running costs / mining speeds with the GPU miner? Maybe a little edge on CPU, but the gap is so close.
That's incredible.
Yes, everyone has reported hashrates that would make it 1:1. Although the GPU miner might still have more optimizations to come..
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Polycoin
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June 05, 2014, 12:32:31 AM |
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WTF is your problem, this is not a MYR thread, we don't care, please go away.
This. i don't understand why the original post was even made. It has no relationship to Monero at all. This is not a spam thread. If it persists we will have to switch to self-moderated. Nobody wants that but irrelevant spam and two pages of posts responding to spam can't be allowed to continue. Making a self moderated thread for this coin would be the dumbest thing you can possibly do. As soon as you make that self moderated thread, there'll be others making a unmoderated thread to voice their biased opinions, just because you made a self moderated thread.... Not to mention it makes it seem as if the coin is ruled by you, as you decide who has a say on the thread and who doesn't. While you may be an open person that allows others to voice their opinions, a self moderated thread would make it seem the exact opposite. All opinions on Monero are welcome and even encouraged, including negative ones. Off topic spam posts are not welcome. Even with a self-moderated thread there are mirror sites where one can see what was deleted. Only off topic spam posts would ever be deleted, not on-topic but critical ones. There is no issue of transparency or suppressing opposing views. As I said it is not my first choice but it is not acceptable to have pages and pages of off topic noise that makes this thread unworkable as a Monero thread for people who are actually interested in Monero and especially people looking for help with Monero. In the short run, a self moderated thread might seem a good thing to do, with not as much active posters. In the long term however, it'll backfire on you, as users would complain(even lie), that you deleted their posts, or how the thread is unfair because criticism gets deleted etc etc. In the eye of newbies, it would also seem suspicious(in the long run) to have a self moderated thread run by one of Monero's Core team, they would feel that you have something to hide and that would lead to assumptions, and eventually accusations.
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Polycoin Troopers, Assemble!
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Keyboard-Mash
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June 05, 2014, 12:39:02 AM |
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Anyone else seeing pretty much a 1:1 parity with investment on hardware / running costs / mining speeds with the GPU miner? Maybe a little edge on CPU, but the gap is so close.
That's incredible.
Yes, everyone has reported hashrates that would make it 1:1. Although the GPU miner might still have more optimizations to come.. I would imagine both platforms have optimizations to come. Not only the hashrate .. I measured TDP and looked up the purchasing cost too. All pretty close to 1:1 Isn't AMD moving toward APU's? http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/a-series-apu#
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June 05, 2014, 12:40:50 AM Last edit: June 05, 2014, 12:57:38 AM by eizh |
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No need for a self-moderated thread. I like the fact that trolls keep this ANN topic bumped to the front page. More or less all altcoin threads are a mess and their only utility is to raise awareness -- the trolls ironically assist with that. In time there will be a separate forum for serious discussion.
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eizh
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June 05, 2014, 12:44:58 AM |
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Anyone else seeing pretty much a 1:1 parity with investment on hardware / running costs / mining speeds with the GPU miner? Maybe a little edge on CPU, but the gap is so close.
That's incredible.
Yes, everyone has reported hashrates that would make it 1:1. Although the GPU miner might still have more optimizations to come.. Yes, I think we'll reach a state where GPUs deliver better H/s per watt, maybe even 2 or 3x better, but CPUs would still be competitive. This is a pretty good situation for a balance between accessibility, blockchain security, and decentralization.
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smooth
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June 05, 2014, 12:51:01 AM |
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No need for a self-moderated thread. I like the fact that trolls keep this ANN topic bumped to the front page. More or less all altcoin threads are a mess and their only utility is to raise awareness -- the trolls ironically assist with that. In time there will be a separate forum for serious discussion.
Good point (bump!)
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smooth
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June 05, 2014, 12:53:58 AM |
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Anyone else seeing pretty much a 1:1 parity with investment on hardware / running costs / mining speeds with the GPU miner? Maybe a little edge on CPU, but the gap is so close.
That's incredible.
Yes, everyone has reported hashrates that would make it 1:1. Although the GPU miner might still have more optimizations to come.. I would imagine both platforms have optimizations to come. Not only the hashrate .. I measured TDP and looked up the purchasing cost too. All pretty close to 1:1 Isn't AMD moving toward APU's? http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/a-series-apu#Everyone is moving toward APUs, whether they call it that or not. GPUs are becoming more like CPUs and CPUs are becoming more like GPUs. They are all just computers, and most applications have some elements of parallel and serial workloads. It has been happening for some time and will continue. It is indeed very impressive that this is the first CPU coin to survive even the first GPU implementation with CPU mining intact.
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June 05, 2014, 12:58:28 AM |
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Why is the website so bad? I had to google to get to this page just to find out what exchanges you guys are on.
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lemfuture
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June 05, 2014, 12:59:12 AM |
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seems a new kind of coin, is there a faucet yet? pm me
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June 05, 2014, 12:59:54 AM |
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Anyone else seeing pretty much a 1:1 parity with investment on hardware / running costs / mining speeds with the GPU miner? Maybe a little edge on CPU, but the gap is so close.
That's incredible.
Yes, everyone has reported hashrates that would make it 1:1. Although the GPU miner might still have more optimizations to come.. I would imagine both platforms have optimizations to come. Not only the hashrate .. I measured TDP and looked up the purchasing cost too. All pretty close to 1:1 Isn't AMD moving toward APU's? http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/a-series-apu#Everyone is moving toward APUs, whether they call it that or not. GPUs are becoming more like CPUs and CPUs are becoming more like GPUs. They are all just computers, and most applications have some elements of parallel and serial workloads. It has been happening for some time and will continue. It is indeed very impressive that this is the first CPU coin to survive even the first GPU implementation with CPU mining intact. +10000! I seem to recall a good two week period where the sph crew was killing a cpu coin a day...
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June 05, 2014, 01:07:02 AM |
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seems a new kind of coin, is there a faucet yet? pm me
A faucet isn't a bad idea!
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smooth
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June 05, 2014, 01:11:48 AM |
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In the short run, a self moderated thread might seem a good thing to do, with not as much active posters. In the long term however, it'll backfire on you, as users would complain(even lie), that you deleted their posts, or how the thread is unfair because criticism gets deleted etc etc. In the eye of newbies, it would also seem suspicious(in the long run) to have a self moderated thread run by one of Monero's Core team, they would feel that you have something to hide and that would lead to assumptions, and eventually accusations.
Obviously you have strong opinions on the matter. The best way for you to influence things is to stop posting irrelevant crap on the thread and stop responding when others do so.
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Polycoin
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June 05, 2014, 01:14:27 AM |
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In the short run, a self moderated thread might seem a good thing to do, with not as much active posters. In the long term however, it'll backfire on you, as users would complain(even lie), that you deleted their posts, or how the thread is unfair because criticism gets deleted etc etc. In the eye of newbies, it would also seem suspicious(in the long run) to have a self moderated thread run by one of Monero's Core team, they would feel that you have something to hide and that would lead to assumptions, and eventually accusations.
Obviously you have strong opinions on the matter. The best way for you to influence things is to stop posting irrelevant crap on the thread and stop responding when others do so.No, I much prefer to give honest opinions, that way everyone can see who you truly are when you respond.
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sorryforthat
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June 05, 2014, 01:20:05 AM |
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No, I much prefer to give honest opinions, that way everyone can see who you truly are when you respond.
With your trust level, I totally "believe" everything you have to say.
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