[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[aminorex]

But at least you spelled its homophone correctly.

Please, no homophonia.  We're trying to stay on topic.

[aminorex]

I wouldn't worry about DTM, they belong to a set of users that have picked up dirt cheap mega Boolberry stacks (because they didn't want to pay market rates for Monero) and now are hoping for riches. DTM is never going to stop talking about his Boolberry.

It is with mixed feelings that I anticipate the likelihood that they will be subsequently rolled into XMR.

[georgehosterguy]

God this is all incredibly boring. Scrollling through pages of pointless political discussion and he-said she-said squabbling, hoping to find some news about Monero but never finding it.

Give it a rest please kids.

Yeah no joke.  Has there been another Missives or Fireside?  Get tired of 15 year olds with "yo mamma's fat" equivalents in crypto

[akula999]

omg... botnet attack on moneropool.com
all of my xmr coins are in jeopardy... (all 3 of them).
Help me obiwan kenobi, you're my only help!

[smoothie]

http://arcticstartup.com/2014/09/01/estonian-bitcoin-castle

Worth mentioning since it involves monero.

[iCEBREAKER]

Yes, it's a trend to not specifically mention XCP, SJCX, BTM, QBK, DRK, QBK, STR, XCN, VRC, QTL, XC, VIA, REDD, DOGE, C2, AEON and even BBR in every single post in the XMR thread .. it's just a grand conspiracy to ignore everything but Monero in the Monero thread!

Here, we ignore particle physics, pornography, electronics, cars, acoustics, food recipes, games to play, carpentry, the weather and .. well .. pretty much everything besides Monero so that all the fans of every single one of those topics can get it in their head that theres just a massive conspiracy .. and one day come here to ask repeatedly and incessantly why nobody is talking about all those things.

We are the tinfoil hat factory!

To the trolls:

[kbm]

I've decided to share this nice list of common telemarketer psychological tactics. Trolls generally don't have anything to sell you, so clearly these people have just been labeled incorrectly:

The original, unedited, article can be found here: http://dclibrary.org/seniors/safety/telemarketing/tactics , and I've edited it for usage here.

Five Main Telemarketing Tactics

The Scarcity Tactic
A con artist using the scarcity tactic relies on the target’s desire for a product that the fraudster says is in short supply.

Fraudster: “If you don’t act now, I can’t guarantee this offer will last. It may expire any moment. You’d better act right now.”
Fresh BTCTalk Poster: “No, I’ll wait and see. Send me an email. I’ll look the offer over and if it still looks good, I’ll buy it on the exchange.”

Remember, it isn’t rude, it’s shrewd.


The Authority Tactic

When using this technique, the criminal first establishes an aura of authority over the intended victim, then proceeds to browbeat the target. The goal is to bully the target into buying into a scheme that isn’t in his or her interest.

Fraudster: “Listen to me, Mary. Like I said, you’re a bright person, you know the law. You’d better buy this coin now or I can’t tell what
will happen to you. You might end up in jail. Rules are rules, you know. I can help you only so much.”
Fresh BTCTalk Poster: “I know enough about the law to know not to talk with you. If it were really a prize there wouldn’t be a fee. I don’t like your attitude. Don’t call me back. Goodbye!”

Remember, it isn’t rude, it’s shrewd.


The Reciprocity Tactic

When using this tactic, the con artist relies on a sympathetic reaction from the target. Essentially, the pitch is that if the target doesn’t buy into the criminal’s scheme, then the con artist—often posting as a sockpuppet, developer, or hero member—won’t get a commission or some other type of reward.

Fraudster: “Harry, let’s work this out for both of us. I work strictly on commission. If you don’t buy this coin/IPO, I won’t make any
money. But I know things are tough at your end too. How about if I do something nice for you, and you do something nice for me? Since you
can’t afford the $2,000 purchase price, I’ll start an IPO you can pay only $1,000. That way, we’ll both make out.”
Fresh BTCTalk Poster: “Sorry about your commission, but I’m not going to send you any money. I need to see your offer in writing so I can decide whether it’s worth all that you say it is. Email me the offer and, if I’m interested, I’ll get back in touch with you.”

Remember, it isn’t rude, it’s shrewd


The Social Proof Tactic

The social proof technique relies on the target’s need to belong and is especially effective on fellow posters who are alone. The technique is based on making the target feel that if everyone is doing something, then it must be good. Basically, the pitch is that everyone is taking part in this particular scheme—so why doesn’t the intended victim?

Fraudster: “Everyone’s buying one of these coins/shares in China. Right down the street from you, Mrs. Jones has bought one. And I just got off the phone with Mr. Smith on Maple Street. He’s buying too. There’ll be lots of people there, all of them just like you. So let’s get you signed up now. All you need to do is give me a Bitcoin so I can get your reservation deposit right now.”
Fresh BTCTalk Poster: “No thanks. I’m not about to jump on the bandwagon. And I’d never give out my Bitcoin to someone I don’t know. Sorry!”

Remember, it isn’t rude, it’s shrewd.

Other tactics:

    Phantom fixation, where the scammer offers a prize or reward so great that it is “too good” to pass up.
    Similarity, where the scammer convinces the intended victim that they both have the same values
    Consistency, where the scammer uses the target’s own words against
    the victim to convince him or her that what the target is describing is exactly what the scammer is selling
    Contrast, where the scammer compares his or her product to
    ones the target is familiar with. Of course, the scammer tells the
    intended victim that his or her product is a much better value, but in reality, it isn’t. Always keep in mind that these con artists are a heartless bunch.   ... They’ll even blame their victims for falling for their con.

One I'd like to add:

1. Using what would normally be confirmation bias, and representing made up personal opinions as fact. This has the effect of making statements that would otherwise have no emotional attachment have emotional attachment. The idea is to make you realize you have emotions about this product that they're trying to sell you .. then convince you the only reason you have emotions is because you want to buy what they're selling.

[gwada971]

I think I am noticing this trend of late too. Just don't even mention BBR The goal is to first convert people who then will do the proselytizing job for them.

The other day someone called CryptoNote whitepaper as Monero Whitepaper.  

Yes, it's a trend to not specifically mention XCP, SJCX, BTM, QBK, DRK, QBK, STR, XCN, VRC, QTL, XC, VIA, REDD, DOGE, C2, AEON and even BBR in every single post in the XMR thread .. it's just a grand conspiracy to ignore everything but Monero in the Monero thread!

Here, we ignore particle physics, pornography, electronics, cars, acoustics, food recipes, games to play, carpentry, the weather and .. well .. pretty much everything besides Monero so that all the fans of every single one of those topics can get it in their head that theres just a massive conspiracy .. and one day come here to ask repeatedly and incessantly why nobody is talking about all those things.

We are the tinfoil hat factory!

You see this doesn't work. The only real threat to XMR monopoly is BBR, not the other angry list that you came up with. So I wasn't impressed by the attempted melodrama. My statement was valid in the context of the question.

Why the fuss!? The only threat to Monero, so far as I can see, is DRK. No other CN coin is going to fly due to lack of integrity or weak community support.

 BBR could be a threat , it has a very good dev zoidberg that make a lot of work on the cryptonote code, a person like that  could be great to monero dev team (when the next missive ?. And the SupernetProject looks great

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.0

Quote from these "he important thing to know about BBR and crypto_zoidberg is that he is accessible, helpful, clearly supersmart and has actually modified the block format of cryptonote, solved a most important issue of blockchain bloating, and in his spare time made nice friendly GUI. A lot of people put importance on having a team of coders, but I can tell you from firsthand experience I much rather have one dev that can do the work of 7 than 7 devs. e is making the most changes to the cryptonote codebase. Some might debate how much better this makes BBR over all the other cryptonote forks, but who else is changing the blockchain format, adding aliases, a GUI(!!), plus even more improvements"

PS :i own both XMR and BBR

[NeuroticFish]

Usually more pairs of eyes can find the issues much easier.
Usually a team of devs can become easier online 24/7 making shifts, especially if they are in (way) different timezones.

...just my 0.05 XMR.

[Globb0]

Going on holiday in a minute. I hoped the missive would be out in time, but I will update my whirlwind missive when I get back.

Have fun all,

Globb

[Jungian]

Is XMR going to implement aliases like BBR?

If not, why not?

[smooth]

Is XMR going to implement aliases like BBR?

If not, why not?

Unlikely. Some form of aliases maybe, even I might say likely, but not the way BBR has done them. I could go through the disadvantages of that design, but you are better off discussing that on the BBR thread.

[neverminer77]

if anyone thinks bbr isnt a threat.. you should rethink your position on the matter.

bbr is an one-man army. it's not getting anywhere.

[Nekomata]

XMR is the future.

[Febo]

I much rather have one dev that can do the work of 7 than 7 devs.

lol are you sure? what if this 1 dev ( i pray to God will never happen) something bad happens. Let say something that will not realy harm him, but put for few months in hospital. what will happen then?




PS: i own some of both currencies also

[xulescu]

Please don't delay the missive more than is necessary.

[pt7]

I much rather have one dev that can do the work of 7 than 7 devs.

lol are you sure? what if this 1 dev ( i pray to God will never happen) something bad happens. Let say something that will not realy harm him, but put for few months in hospital. what will happen then?




PS: i own some of both currencies also

All the code is open source.  Anyone can pick it up or contribute.   Perhaps with coins like Qora, or Simcoin, this is a problem.
ps: I also own some XMR

[smooth]

Can we try to keep it on topic here, not arguing about some other coin. Thanks.

[rdnkjdi]

Can we try to keep it on topic here, not arguing about some other coin. Thanks.

What is the status on the GUI and the database work?

[cAPSLOCK]

Can we try to keep it on topic here, not arguing about some other coin. Thanks.

Just a simple post to support the above notion.