[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[StatusSeeking]

When the 0.1 fee will be fixed ?

When we replace it with per-kb fees.

Just please make the fees high enough that the blockchain is not sold out too cheaply. It is possible to lower them when the price rises. The recent decision to up them by 20x did not lead to price crashing.

By the way, when the transacation fees will get back to normal?

[rpietila]

By the way, when the transacation fees will get back to normal?

smooth said that soon they will be reset to "a new normal" which is based on the tx size in blockchain. A typical tx should cost 0.01 XMR which compares favorably to Bitcoin's BTC0.0001 ($0.02 vs. $0.05).

[tomewok]

Tomewok, its most likely a relative/absolute path error, put the files in the same directory where u start simplewallet from.

open a cmd window, cd into the simplewallet directory and then start simplewallet from the with the wallet u want to open.

Thank you very much, i was able to access my wallet again and i noticed that the monero i sent to a friend while being on wrong fork didn't get back on my wallet, am i the only one who lost moneros like this ?

[argentinx]

the coin sent when you are in the wrong fork
have no effect on the chain right
then when you come back
on the right chain
Your coin should be present in wallett
if there are no
you should run a command
who does the scan of your wallet
and after
you will see your coin
but I do not remember
read the post before that there should be an answer
which covers this

[fluffypony]

Tomewok, its most likely a relative/absolute path error, put the files in the same directory where u start simplewallet from.

open a cmd window, cd into the simplewallet directory and then start simplewallet from the with the wallet u want to open.

Thank you very much, i was able to access my wallet again and i noticed that the monero i sent to a friend while being on wrong fork didn't get back on my wallet, am i the only one who lost moneros like this ?

Transactions were broadcast to both forks, so many transactions (all that I've checked) were mined on both sides. It is physically impossible that you lost the coins - either your friend received them or you'll get them back. If your friend hasn't received them, then delete your wallet.bin (or whatever you've called your wallet) - NOT the wallet.bin.keys file - and run simplewallet as normal. It will rebuild the wallet cache from scratch.

[jwinterm]

Monero is up for vote at coinpayments.net: https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

All proceeds go to Sean's Outpost.

[Aaxx]

Did it write the logfile etc to the new data folder?

Yes, i see bitmonerod.log in the new data folder:
http://pastebin.com/jf5swpj9
bitmonerod with log 2
http://pastebin.com/XBEggLxZ

logging just stops with no errors and you have to kill bitmonerod process to exit it?

Yes, logging just stops with no errors but i can't kill bitmonerod process even if i use task manager (i try to use also taskkill in command-line), some special programs like process explorer. I just have to push the button RESET...
Bitmonerod have 205 outgoing connections but there is very few traffic ... I check port 18080 - open (it's open in my router)!  Seems bitmonerod check one connection, it's failed, then go to next & etc.
May be i have to move my old files - wallet.bin, p2pstate.bin &  poolstate.bin to the new data folder? Now there are no this files in  the new data folder. The data folder have only bitmonerod.exe, bitmonerod.bat, blockchain.bin, wallet.bin.keys, wallet.bin.address.txt & simplewallet.exe.  

[NavalStrike]

I coded a simple script which parsed this topic, boolberry, bytecoin, ducknote and darkcoin. Figured it would be interesting to see these results.

In this topic alone, a total of 1420 unique users has participated.

Below are users spread across the different user ranks:

Boolberry (198 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	5	1.09%
Hero_Member	19	4.14%
Sr.Member	83	18.08%
Full_Member	150	32.68%
Member	82	17.86%
Jr.Member	52	11.33%
Newbie	68	14.81%
Total users:	459

Bytecoin (195 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	1	0.22%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	4	0.87%
Hero_Member	19	4.17%
Sr.Member	54	11.84%
Full_Member	113	24.78%
Member	101	22.15%
Jr.Member	74	16.23%
Newbie	90	19.74%
Total users:	456

duckNote (78 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	2	0.72%
Hero_Member	5	1.81%
Sr.Member	40	14.49%
Full_Member	78	28.26%
Member	62	22.46%
Jr.Member	42	15.22%
Newbie	47	17.03%
Total users:	276

Monero (700 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	1	0.07%
Donator	1	0.07%
Legendary	12	0.85%
Hero_Member	56	3.94%
Sr.Member	210	14.79%
Full_Member	362	25.49%
Member	288	20.28%
Jr.Member	203	14.3%
Newbie	287	20.21%
Total users:	1420

now the really interesting comparison....

Darkcoin (3029 pages)

Rank	Users
VIP	0	0.08%
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	2	0.08%
Legendary	9	0.35%
Hero_Member	57	2.23%
Sr.Member	291	11.40%
Full_Member	772	30.24%
Member	545	21.35%
Jr.Member	342	13.40%
Newbie	533	20.88%
Total users:	2553

Notice the number of hero and legendary members? Darkcoin has 57 (2.23%) hero and 9 (0.35%) legendary versus Monero with 56 (3.94%) hero and 12 (0.85%) legendary. Percent wise monero has attracted more than twice legendary members and almost twice hero members.

In other words, it seems oldtimers gravitate towards monero/cryptonote and ignore darkcoin.

It's not that they ignore DRK. Their inner circle of oldtimers has formed the same way it happened with Monero. What really makes XMR more attractive to tech savvy users is the uniqueness of the technology itself. Monero is indeed not like any other coin.

[vokain]

Monero got big and useful much quicker than I expected! As soon as I gave it some time, I now see. Thank you to everyone involved

Do you see it is adopted some where?

Once it gets a decent GUI, users will flock in. Next stage is a solid ecosystem. Monero is still young but it's getting there dude. Don't you worry about that!

I have a family friend who is in the everlasting process of finishing development (alpha stage, at the moment) of a monero gaming site (which may or may not be up at the moment) to build yet another useful outlet for Moneroists soon, but perhaps you've already read about this. We want more!!

and bazaars of any sort are always a good, profitable idea for those who can and will build them. and the Monero family needs it (now)!!

[vokain]

I coded a simple script which parsed this topic, boolberry, bytecoin, ducknote and darkcoin. Figured it would be interesting to see these results.

In this topic alone, a total of 1420 unique users has participated.

Below are users spread across the different user ranks:

Boolberry (198 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	5	1.09%
Hero_Member	19	4.14%
Sr.Member	83	18.08%
Full_Member	150	32.68%
Member	82	17.86%
Jr.Member	52	11.33%
Newbie	68	14.81%
Total users:	459

Bytecoin (195 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	1	0.22%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	4	0.87%
Hero_Member	19	4.17%
Sr.Member	54	11.84%
Full_Member	113	24.78%
Member	101	22.15%
Jr.Member	74	16.23%
Newbie	90	19.74%
Total users:	456

duckNote (78 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	2	0.72%
Hero_Member	5	1.81%
Sr.Member	40	14.49%
Full_Member	78	28.26%
Member	62	22.46%
Jr.Member	42	15.22%
Newbie	47	17.03%
Total users:	276

Monero (700 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	1	0.07%
Donator	1	0.07%
Legendary	12	0.85%
Hero_Member	56	3.94%
Sr.Member	210	14.79%
Full_Member	362	25.49%
Member	288	20.28%
Jr.Member	203	14.3%
Newbie	287	20.21%
Total users:	1420

now the really interesting comparison....

Darkcoin (3029 pages)

Rank	Users
VIP	0	0.08%
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	2	0.08%
Legendary	9	0.35%
Hero_Member	57	2.23%
Sr.Member	291	11.40%
Full_Member	772	30.24%
Member	545	21.35%
Jr.Member	342	13.40%
Newbie	533	20.88%
Total users:	2553

Notice the number of hero and legendary members? Darkcoin has 57 (2.23%) hero and 9 (0.35%) legendary versus Monero with 56 (3.94%) hero and 12 (0.85%) legendary. Percent wise monero has attracted more than twice legendary members and almost twice hero members.

In other words, it seems oldtimers gravitate towards monero/cryptonote and ignore darkcoin.

It's not that they ignore DRK. Their inner circle of oldtimers has formed the same way it happened with Monero. What really makes XMR more attractive to tech savvy users is the uniqueness of the technology itself. Monero is indeed not like any other coin.

I like where your head's at (the both of you)

[infofront]

Monero got big and useful much quicker than I expected! As soon as I gave it some time, I now see. Thank you to everyone involved

Do you see it is adopted some where?

Once it gets a decent GUI, users will flock in. Next stage is a solid ecosystem. Monero is still young but it's getting there dude. Don't you worry about that!

I'd like to think I've been around the crypto block. I started mining bitcoin in early 2011, and progressed to litecoin, etc. from there. Of all the coins that have come and gone through the years, Monero really stands out. The community, devs, promising new tech, rapid progress - everything is very impressive with this coin.

I know this is turning into a fluff post, but I feel like we're in the midst of something very special and very important. This is something I haven't seen or felt since the earlier bitcoin days.

[Aaxx]

Of all the coins that have come and gone through the years, Monero really stands out. The community, devs, promising new tech, rapid progress - everything is very impressive with this coin.
 I feel like we're in the midst of something very special and very important. This is something I haven't seen or felt since the earlier bitcoin days.

That's exactly! But Developers can't  make a wallet properly, I tired to deal with it! 

[psterryl]

Did it write the logfile etc to the new data folder?

Yes, i see bitmonerod.log in the new data folder:
http://pastebin.com/jf5swpj9
bitmonerod with log 2
http://pastebin.com/XBEggLxZ

logging just stops with no errors and you have to kill bitmonerod process to exit it?

Yes, logging just stops with no errors but i can't kill bitmonerod process even if i use task manager (i try to use also taskkill in command-line), some special programs like process explorer. I just have to push the button RESET...
Bitmonerod have 205 outgoing connections but there is very few traffic ... I check port 18080 - open (it's open in my router)!  Seems bitmonerod check one connection, it's failed, then go to next & etc.
May be i have to move my old files - wallet.bin, p2pstate.bin &  poolstate.bin to the new data folder? Now there are no this files in  the new data folder. The data folder have only bitmonerod.exe, bitmonerod.bat, blockchain.bin, wallet.bin.keys, wallet.bin.address.txt & simplewallet.exe.  

Typically when your pc freezes up like that (can't end the task using task manager and have to restart) it is indicative of a file system or hardware problem. Certainly isn't likely to be a problem that would be caused by the monero software. Do you have another machine you could try the wallet on?

[oda.krell]

I coded a simple script which parsed this topic, boolberry, bytecoin, ducknote and darkcoin. Figured it would be interesting to see these results.

In this topic alone, a total of 1420 unique users has participated.

Below are users spread across the different user ranks:

Boolberry (198 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	5	1.09%
Hero_Member	19	4.14%
Sr.Member	83	18.08%
Full_Member	150	32.68%
Member	82	17.86%
Jr.Member	52	11.33%
Newbie	68	14.81%
Total users:	459

Bytecoin (195 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	1	0.22%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	4	0.87%
Hero_Member	19	4.17%
Sr.Member	54	11.84%
Full_Member	113	24.78%
Member	101	22.15%
Jr.Member	74	16.23%
Newbie	90	19.74%
Total users:	456

duckNote (78 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	2	0.72%
Hero_Member	5	1.81%
Sr.Member	40	14.49%
Full_Member	78	28.26%
Member	62	22.46%
Jr.Member	42	15.22%
Newbie	47	17.03%
Total users:	276

Monero (700 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	1	0.07%
Donator	1	0.07%
Legendary	12	0.85%
Hero_Member	56	3.94%
Sr.Member	210	14.79%
Full_Member	362	25.49%
Member	288	20.28%
Jr.Member	203	14.3%
Newbie	287	20.21%
Total users:	1420

now the really interesting comparison....

Darkcoin (3029 pages)

Rank	Users
VIP	0	0.08%
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	2	0.08%
Legendary	9	0.35%
Hero_Member	57	2.23%
Sr.Member	291	11.40%
Full_Member	772	30.24%
Member	545	21.35%
Jr.Member	342	13.40%
Newbie	533	20.88%
Total users:	2553

Notice the number of hero and legendary members? Darkcoin has 57 (2.23%) hero and 9 (0.35%) legendary versus Monero with 56 (3.94%) hero and 12 (0.85%) legendary. Percent wise monero has attracted more than twice legendary members and almost twice hero members.

In other words, it seems oldtimers gravitate towards monero/cryptonote and ignore darkcoin.

Nice stats. Thanks for compiling and posting, TheKoziTwo.

I noticed however that by the 'seniority' metric, Boolberry outranks even Monero (relative, not in absolute numbers). Just another reason for me to hold both :)

[GröBkAz]

I coded a simple script which parsed this topic, boolberry, bytecoin, ducknote and darkcoin. Figured it would be interesting to see these results.

In this topic alone, a total of 1420 unique users has participated.

Below are users spread across the different user ranks:

Boolberry (198 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	5	1.09%
Hero_Member	19	4.14%
Sr.Member	83	18.08%
Full_Member	150	32.68%
Member	82	17.86%
Jr.Member	52	11.33%
Newbie	68	14.81%
Total users:	459

Bytecoin (195 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	1	0.22%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	4	0.87%
Hero_Member	19	4.17%
Sr.Member	54	11.84%
Full_Member	113	24.78%
Member	101	22.15%
Jr.Member	74	16.23%
Newbie	90	19.74%
Total users:	456

duckNote (78 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	0	0.00%
Legendary	2	0.72%
Hero_Member	5	1.81%
Sr.Member	40	14.49%
Full_Member	78	28.26%
Member	62	22.46%
Jr.Member	42	15.22%
Newbie	47	17.03%
Total users:	276

Monero (700 pages)

Rank	Users
Staff	1	0.07%
Donator	1	0.07%
Legendary	12	0.85%
Hero_Member	56	3.94%
Sr.Member	210	14.79%
Full_Member	362	25.49%
Member	288	20.28%
Jr.Member	203	14.3%
Newbie	287	20.21%
Total users:	1420

now the really interesting comparison....

Darkcoin (3029 pages)

Rank	Users
VIP	0	0.08%
Staff	0	0.00%
Donator	2	0.08%
Legendary	9	0.35%
Hero_Member	57	2.23%
Sr.Member	291	11.40%
Full_Member	772	30.24%
Member	545	21.35%
Jr.Member	342	13.40%
Newbie	533	20.88%
Total users:	2553

Notice the number of hero and legendary members? Darkcoin has 57 (2.23%) hero and 9 (0.35%) legendary versus Monero with 56 (3.94%) hero and 12 (0.85%) legendary. Percent wise monero has attracted more than twice legendary members and almost twice hero members.

In other words, it seems oldtimers gravitate towards monero/cryptonote and ignore darkcoin.

You should make such a statistic for a few more coins. Could you share your script with the comunity?

[TheKoziTwo]

I coded a simple script which parsed this topic, boolberry, bytecoin, ducknote and darkcoin. Figured it would be interesting to see these results.

In this topic alone, a total of 1420 unique users has participated.

Below are users spread across the different user ranks:

[...]

Notice the number of hero and legendary members? Darkcoin has 57 (2.23%) hero and 9 (0.35%) legendary versus Monero with 56 (3.94%) hero and 12 (0.85%) legendary. Percent wise monero has attracted more than twice legendary members and almost twice hero members.

In other words, it seems oldtimers gravitate towards monero/cryptonote and ignore darkcoin.

You should make such a statistic for a few more coins. Could you share your script with the comunity?

Yes, please do, I have shared it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.msg8746230#msg8746230

I'm not sure if there are any DDOS limits on this forum, but I parsed darkcoin topic just fine, with more than 3k pages (however I split it into 12 refreshes). Either way probably better if others do this also.

[Aaxx]

Typically when your pc freezes up like that (can't end the task using task manager and have to restart) it is indicative of a file system or hardware problem.

I don't think so 'cause i try my wallet on HDD & SSD - the same.
Case in bitmonerod haven't  to set  outgoing connections. But what reason?

Do you have another machine you could try the wallet on?

Another PC - Win 7 32-bit.  

[myagui]

[...] I noticed however that by the 'seniority' metric, Boolberry outranks even Monero (relative, not in absolute numbers). [...]

I think that the observed relative seniority is the direct result of not taking into consideration the trolldeviation^(tm). We seem to have the largest trollbase^(tm) here, and most of those fellows are not seniors. For genuine supporters, I dare speculate that we have the most grey hair & rheumatism in the altcoins section (and for once, that's a good thing ).

~ Myagui

[myagui]

On a more serious note, adding to my earlier comment, the statistic is rather meaningless without accounting for moderation. This here thread is not moderated, while that other one is. I would assume that some amount of senseless/spam/trolling got deleted over there, and again, these actions are mostly carried out by fresh/young forum accounts.
~ Myagui

[aikklond]

I have latest daemon as well asthe blockchain from OP.

Unfortunately it stucks at an orphaned block 5 days ago, how can i get on the right chain?