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December 01, 2015, 09:56:59 AM |
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Doesn't matter; if you're not mixing using protocol-level ring signatures, you're at the mercy of the coin's volume in terms of camouflage.
Ring signatures approach has the very same problem, doesn't it? It's just disguised in a manner similar to anonymity problem of Bitcoin where majority delusionally think that new address for each transfer somehow make you anonymous.
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December 01, 2015, 10:27:55 AM |
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Doesn't matter; if you're not mixing using protocol-level ring signatures, you're at the mercy of the coin's volume in terms of camouflage.
Ring signatures approach has the very same problem, doesn't it? It's just disguised in a manner similar to anonymity problem of Bitcoin where majority delusionally think that new address for each transfer somehow make you anonymous. You are confusing stealth addresses and ring signatures. Cryptonote (EG Monero) uses both. Unlike NXT, Cryptonote does not use coinshuffle. Coinshuffle needs proportional concomitant volume to effectively mix amounts larger than dust; Cryptonote does not.
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December 01, 2015, 11:25:10 AM |
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You are confusing stealth addresses and ring signatures. Cryptonote (EG Monero) uses both.
Unlike NXT, Cryptonote does not use coinshuffle.
Coinshuffle needs proportional concomitant volume to effectively mix amounts larger than dust; Cryptonote does not.
I don't confuse, I'm talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_signature.
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December 01, 2015, 10:31:25 PM |
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why not buy xmr and nxt ?
both are good coins, both are high risk of failure, reward if successful will be massive - only an idiot would buy one instead of both
I just don't get coin zealots at all
Mostly because Monero only has one feature, anonymity. Nxt shuffling is just one of a dozen features.
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December 01, 2015, 10:37:03 PM Last edit: December 02, 2015, 06:37:07 AM by iCEBREAKER |
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why not buy xmr and nxt ?
both are good coins, both are high risk of failure, reward if successful will be massive - only an idiot would buy one instead of both
I just don't get coin zealots at all
Mostly because Monero only has one feature, anonymity. Nxt shuffling is just one of a dozen features. That's right. Monero does one thing better than anyone else, while NXT violates the KISS principle and fails at a dozen different useless "features." But it's not Monero NXT bagholders should be worried about. Turing-complete ETH is the real NXT killer (if NXT isn't already dead).
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December 01, 2015, 11:26:40 PM |
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i don't see information about forging who does it work ?
i have 2753 nxt sins 2 weeks forging enable but no information about it how long does it take for a reward ? does i have enought nxt ?
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December 02, 2015, 03:04:51 AM |
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i don't see information about forging who does it work ?
i have 2753 nxt sins 2 weeks forging enable but no information about it how long does it take for a reward ? does i have enought nxt ?
Somebody is playing naughty/hilarious games with NXT's difficulty, by driving it up sky-high and then removing their support, which causes a massive delay before the next block is found. It's the equivalent of a market-based pump and dump, but at the protocol level. That's a typical problem for abandoned crypto projects. For all NXT's shameless self-promotion as The Next Big Thing, it didn't solve that very basic issue.
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December 02, 2015, 05:08:26 AM |
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why not buy xmr and nxt ?
both are good coins, both are high risk of failure, reward if successful will be massive - only an idiot would buy one instead of both
I just don't get coin zealots at all
Mostly because Monero only has one feature, anonymity. Nxt shuffling is just one of a dozen features. That's right. Monero does one thing better than anyone else, while NXT violates the KISS principle and fails at a dozen different useless "features." But it's not Monero NXT bagholders should be worried about. Turning-complete ETH is the real NXT killer (if NXT isn't already dead). And yet Nxt still has a higher marketcap......interesting.
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December 02, 2015, 05:30:47 AM |
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[...] Turning-complete ETH is the real NXT killer (if NXT isn't already dead).
Yes, iCEBREAKER, "turning-complete" as in you are turning into a complete yobbo Agree Ethereum and Nxt are both top-notch, whereas Monero can do just one thing.
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December 02, 2015, 05:42:40 AM |
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Somebody is playing naughty/hilarious games with NXT's difficulty, by driving it up sky-high and then removing their support, which causes a massive delay before the next block is found. It's the equivalent of a market-based pump and dump, but at the protocol level.
Where have you pulled this from? El sueño de la razón produce monstruos
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December 02, 2015, 06:39:01 AM |
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[...] Turning-complete ETH is the real NXT killer (if NXT isn't already dead).
Yes, iCEBREAKER, "turning-complete" as in you are turning into a complete yobbo Agree Ethereum and Nxt are both top-notch, whereas Monero can do just one thing. There are hundreds of innovative DApps being developed for ETH. For NXT, not so much.
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December 02, 2015, 06:39:13 AM |
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why not buy xmr and nxt ?
both are good coins, both are high risk of failure, reward if successful will be massive - only an idiot would buy one instead of both
I just don't get coin zealots at all
Mostly because Monero only has one feature, anonymity. Nxt shuffling is just one of a dozen features. That's right. Monero does one thing better than anyone else, while NXT violates the KISS principle and fails at a dozen different useless "features." But it's not Monero NXT bagholders should be worried about. Turing-complete ETH is the real NXT killer (if NXT isn't already dead). eth can probably do new features pretty easily with msft azure. But consensus protocol still remains mystery.
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December 02, 2015, 06:42:54 AM |
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There are hundreds of innovative DApps being developed for ETH.
For NXT, not so much.
Where could I see the list?
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December 02, 2015, 06:49:28 AM |
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i don't see information about forging who does it work ?
i have 2753 nxt sins 2 weeks forging enable but no information about it how long does it take for a reward ? does i have enought nxt ?
No, try this: https://www.mynxt.info/forging_calculator.phpForging doesn't even pay the electricity bill right now. It's main use is helping secure the network.
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December 02, 2015, 06:49:59 AM |
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Somebody is playing naughty/hilarious games with NXT's difficulty, by driving it up sky-high and then removing their support, which causes a massive delay before the next block is found. It's the equivalent of a market-based pump and dump, but at the protocol level.
Where have you pulled this from? El sueño de la razón produce monstruosIn most coins ya could view the block explorer to tell. But ya Nxt is a weird bird , so difficulty is not listed along with the height & age like other coins. https://nxtportal.org/blocks/442039470844277441010 minutes between blocks Height Age Txs Amt + Fee Generator 581533 8 mins 2 0 + 2 NXT-HV5P-5WN7-6GHZ-DDY4P 581532 18 mins 0 0 + 0 NXT-MPF5-UXFD-R382-2BKS6 Is that normal for ya coin? AG18
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December 02, 2015, 07:24:14 AM |
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i don't see information about forging who does it work ?
i have 2753 nxt sins 2 weeks forging enable but no information about it how long does it take for a reward ? does i have enought nxt ?
2753 NXT are not enough for forging in short intervals, it could take a very long time until you forge a block. This is not a fault in the POS protocol but a security feature against attacks. Please stay reasonable: how much could you mine with bitcoin if you would invest only $17 in a mining device?
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December 02, 2015, 07:37:41 AM |
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There are hundreds of innovative DApps being developed for ETH. [...]
Where could I see the list? It's funny, when iCEBREAKER moves into check, he always runs (never waits for the mate) And he moves into check a lot.
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December 02, 2015, 08:13:18 AM |
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Nahh, it is normal for some, so i take ya word for it on yours. But in some other coins , it would be the sign of a problem, like either a nothing to stake issue or something raising the difficulty too high, so it takes a lot longer to find a new block. Does Nxt even have something like a difficulty reported anywhere? AG18
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