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May 29, 2015, 03:41:59 AM |
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Just for fun, I'll add my thoughts to the thread. Dooglus was spot on with the details of the 'method' used, but I'll recap so you can judge my sanity. I decided to try this 9% martingale technique to see if I could reach 10k clams before I busted. That should make it pretty clear I was very much aware that busting was inevitable. (I guess ) First, I created a little bot that would bet on 40 accounts up to 10 clams at 9% over 110 losses. At this point, I would get a message on my phone and JD chat that would alert me of a bust. I would then transfer 100 CLAM to the bot that busted from one of my primary accounts. At that point, I would just hope lady-luck was on my side and bet cautiously. I had countless people tell me to quit and take my winnings and run. However, I see no thrill in that and I was on a mission to 10k. Someone asked how much I lost, my answer is 5.5k. Once clams are won, they are yours to lose. (About 4k of that was profit. I had won a little over 1k from a previous failed martingale I finished up.) Dooglus, I still think the system can be beat. I'll accept your challenge of 'put your money where your mouth is' and give it another attempt soon. I have already started simulating millions of bets with a modified strategy and maybe this time I'll get the 10k. Oh, and I wouldn't think of playing anywhere other than Just-Dice.com! (If there is anyone out there with a brilliant plan of attack, jump on JD and message me and I will code up a bot to carry out the plan.) -TigerTatas So since you made 4K profit and you lost 5.5K, you only lost 1.5K of your personal money? What program did you use to run your auto bot? Did you use JD API?
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chriswen
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May 29, 2015, 04:32:55 AM |
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He makes a good point. Once you won something it really is like you lost them when you lose. Because you could've not lost them.
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michinzx
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May 29, 2015, 07:27:15 AM |
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i used to use martingale method for a long time in my gamblings, and my conclusion after all those bets that i made with this method is that you ARE going to lose in the end.
and when the loss comes at the end of martingale method it hits you hard, and leaves you with no money.
now i just do regular betting for the thrill and fun of it.
im in the same boat, martingaling makes some money in the short run, but youll lose eventually, its just a matter of choosing when to cash out.
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May 29, 2015, 07:28:01 AM |
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Any reason why you are betting with CLAM instead of BTC? Just curious
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hunkey600
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May 29, 2015, 08:08:35 AM |
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Martingale always work and you will always lose with that, so you have to come out when in profit else everything will be gone in a blink of eye,
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May 29, 2015, 01:43:10 PM |
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Martingale always work and you will always lose with that, so you have to come out when in profit else everything will be gone in a blink of eye,
What do you mean? If you always lose that means that martingale never work and at the end you will loss all of your thing. And martingale sure need a good amount of money to win some cash and that is hard to get
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Altcoin4life
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May 29, 2015, 01:59:14 PM |
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Using martingale at betterbets last night I did 0.2 btc profit in a couple hours betting 200 satoshi per roll. I felt a big crash was coming though so I just set the stop on win amount to 0.2 and it worked on the autobet.
Martingale can work but it's not good of you don't stop while ahead.
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May 29, 2015, 02:53:23 PM |
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martingale is a freaking trap. what happens when you reach the betting limit? what happens when you cannot double since your pocket is under 49% of the amount lost? best way to try roulette is look for the pattern,
play 1000 bet at 0.000001
look for the pattern, write everything down.
then look for a weak point where you see 1 bet repeating. bet half your wallet on red or black keeping something on the 0 just in case.
you at least covered 67% of chances
Yeah but the odds that the roulette wheel lands on red or black is less than 1 /2 times. You betting on the zero means you have about 51% of winning something. But you are risking much more than it is worth. They is no real pattern with roulette. That is a gambler's fallacy. Each roll is independent of the previous role in a fair game. Martingale would work if there were no betting limits and you had an infinite bankroll. But that also assumes the casino had no betting limits and also had an infinite bankroll. In other words it does not work because you could have a huge string of losses and never come out ahead.
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May 29, 2015, 03:14:29 PM |
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Yeah it always fails in the end. I used doge-dice for awhile and and used really small percentage of my total, but eventually the house always wins. It can take a long time though if you use really small percentages of your total. I got over half a million bets before going bust.
how much times in a row did you loose? also did you play high amounts or just dust to try the strategy out? i once made x4 my balance on 999dice with martingale and then quit
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May 29, 2015, 03:24:55 PM |
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Any reason why you are betting with CLAM instead of BTC? Just curious I couldn't care less if I were betting CLAM vs BTC. I happen to bet with CLAM because that is what Just-Dice is using at the moment. Over the last year, I've been truly impressed with the way Dooglus has run things there. So, I'm gambling at my preferred site, not necessarily with my preferred currency.
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miki77miki
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May 29, 2015, 08:58:07 PM |
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It works for a little bit but it will ALWAYS fuck up eventually
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Nautiluss
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May 29, 2015, 10:31:01 PM |
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So whats the point then, cause most wont ever have a good enough bankroll to do this.
I know you need more then 1 btc like way more to work with.
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omahapoker
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May 29, 2015, 11:03:40 PM |
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yes tiger i will be there when TT Money Printing Machine 2.0 comes out of beta.
weeks of testing it and play around with the #'s should do the trick.
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waterpile
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May 29, 2015, 11:18:10 PM |
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So whats the point then, cause most wont ever have a good enough bankroll to do this.
I know you need more then 1 btc like way more to work with.
Its not about the Bankroll, heck you can even win 1 BTC with a bankroll of .04btc if you get pretty lucky. IMO Bankroll doesn't increase your chance of winning
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May 30, 2015, 12:00:19 AM |
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So whats the point then, cause most wont ever have a good enough bankroll to do this.
I know you need more then 1 btc like way more to work with.
Its not about the Bankroll, heck you can even win 1 BTC with a bankroll of .04btc if you get pretty lucky. IMO Bankroll doesn't increase your chance of winning The bigger the bankroll the smaller the chance of your system failing because you run out of money.
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May 30, 2015, 12:37:45 AM |
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So whats the point then, cause most wont ever have a good enough bankroll to do this.
I know you need more then 1 btc like way more to work with.
Its not about the Bankroll, heck you can even win 1 BTC with a bankroll of .04btc if you get pretty lucky. IMO Bankroll doesn't increase your chance of winning The bigger the bankroll the smaller the chance of your system failing because you run out of money. Exactly. the bankroll is a huge factor because it extends the lifeline of any betting system. But... given enough time and enough bets, any bankroll can be completely liquidated unless the bankroll is infinite. But let's say you're a millionaire and you prop up your million dollars into a martingale bet system. Now let's say you set a very realistic profit goal of $100. Hey, $100 compared to $1M is peanuts. BUT... it's $100. Would you turn down an easy $100? Didn't think so. Fact is, folks with big bankrolls can plunk down vast sums of money and easily make quick little profits on a martingale system. Or... they could be very very very unlucky and lose all their millions.
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waterpile
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May 30, 2015, 12:46:41 AM |
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So whats the point then, cause most wont ever have a good enough bankroll to do this.
I know you need more then 1 btc like way more to work with.
Its not about the Bankroll, heck you can even win 1 BTC with a bankroll of .04btc if you get pretty lucky. IMO Bankroll doesn't increase your chance of winning The bigger the bankroll the smaller the chance of your system failing because you run out of money. Exactly. the bankroll is a huge factor because it extends the lifeline of any betting system. But... given enough time and enough bets, any bankroll can be completely liquidated unless the bankroll is infinite. But let's say you're a millionaire and you prop up your million dollars into a martingale bet system. Now let's say you set a very realistic profit goal of $100. Hey, $100 compared to $1M is peanuts. BUT... it's $100. Would you turn down an easy $100? Didn't think so. Fact is, folks with big bankrolls can plunk down vast sums of money and easily make quick little profits on a martingale system. Or... they could be very very very unlucky and lose all their millions. not from my experiences and like you said they can be very unlucky which makes their BR totally useless..
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May 30, 2015, 12:47:21 AM |
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Not perfect work we need more capital to try that
I try in primedice for 1 satosi martiangle I lose 0.1BTC in 999dice and freebitcoin (multiple) I try martiangle too but iam still lose
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May 30, 2015, 04:59:55 AM |
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we need more capital to try that
even if you have thousand of btc to play with martingale, you will not be able to cover your loss somehow if you get bad streak. Every dice has a maximum payout, at some time you will hit a bad streak and your martingale will stop if you hit the maximum payout and lose even if you have a lot og btc
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