I just paid the $100K USD via BTC to become a Platinum Member of TBF.

[QuestionAuthority]

Wow this thread just reminded me, what ever happened to Phinnaeus? Did he say wether he was gOing out did he just vanIsh one day?

He needed a loan from BurtW and used his account as collateral. From the looks of it he has not yet repaid the loan and I would not be entirely surprised if the account has since been sold

How much did he get for the account?

IIRC it was a 2.5 BTC "loan"

It does not appear the loan has been repaid as the account has still not logged in for several months. I would assume at this point that the loan is in default. The account also has much less positive trust then it previously did (I believe it has a lot more previously).

Bruno needed two and a half Bitcoins so bad he hocked his account? I find that really hard to believe. He had thousands of btc at one point and multiple ASIC miners.

I've yet to mine a single satoshi with any type of bitcoin mining rig.

Didn't you lose over 1000 coins to Davout? When Bitcoin100 first started you were giving out whole Bitcoins to honor the pledges of anyone that defaulted. You must have been sitting on a fat stack of btc to be able to do that. If you never mined, even with the miners you got for free, where did you get all the coin? Did you buy them?

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[JorgeStolfi]

I cant say I believe that it really happened.

It is indeed something of a mystery.  Nobody from TBF commenting on this thread has seen it fit to validate that the 100K from KnC was made.

Or that the 100K from Phinneas Gage was not made.  

Phinneas = Gleb = Bruno was pulling a prank with his original post.  Check this thread, a couple of pages after that.  His aim was to have people look search the blockchain for 100 k$ donations to the TBF.  AFAIK, none has been found. 

[JorgeStolfi]

Looks to me like [Jon Matonis] has all the ingredients to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

You are kidding, right?AFAIK, Jon's knowledge of computer science is not compatible with the style and contents of "Satoshi"'s paper.

[bg002h]

I cant say I believe that it really happened.

It is indeed something of a mystery.  Nobody from TBF commenting on this thread has seen it fit to validate that the 100K from KnC was made.

Or that the 100K from Phinneas Gage was not made.  

Phinneas = Gleb = Bruno was pulling a prank with his original post.  Check this thread, a couple of pages after that.  His aim was to have people look search the blockchain for 100 k$ donations to the TBF.  AFAIK, none has been found. 

Exactly. Phin's point was don't believe a claim without proof. AFAIK, no one has been able to prove anyone has paid a membership fee...the foundation doesn't publish a privacy violating list of payers / identities & addresses...duh. The expectation that large membership fees would be paid in a single tx is a bit misguided, imho.

[JorgeStolfi]

AFAIK, no one has been able to prove anyone has paid a membership fee...the foundation doesn't publish a privacy violating list of payers / identities & addresses...duh. The expectation that large membership fees would be paid in a single tx is a bit misguided, imho.

Well, I had understood that they promised to accept donations only through a specific address, precisely so that everybody could check their accounting.   

But that is indeed an interesting philosophical question: how can we get to trust a Foundation devoted to the cause of a trustless anonymous payment system.   

[1echo]

that is some sick money man

[Spendulus]

AFAIK, no one has been able to prove anyone has paid a membership fee...the foundation doesn't publish a privacy violating list of payers / identities & addresses...duh. The expectation that large membership fees would be paid in a single tx is a bit misguided, imho.

Well, I had understood that they promised to accept donations only through a specific address, precisely so that everybody could check their accounting.  

But that is indeed an interesting philosophical question: how can we get to trust a Foundation devoted to the cause of a trustless anonymous payment system.  

That is, when they refuse to earn your trust by their actions and provide weasely excuses.  Better stated, someone arguing for their policy on this thread does so, BTF itself remains silent.  The receipt of a string of payments to a pay to address by a charity or non profit is in fact proof of their work.  The payment of a single sum by one donating/joining is in fact proof of work.

One should of course use a different sending address each time, if desired.  This is so elementary.  Bg002h seems to advocate something different.

Very interesting  indeed.  Relations with the F would have to be trustless, given the circumstances.

I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume both P and P are Platinum.

[QuestionAuthority]

AFAIK, no one has been able to prove anyone has paid a membership fee...the foundation doesn't publish a privacy violating list of payers / identities & addresses...duh. The expectation that large membership fees would be paid in a single tx is a bit misguided, imho.

Well, I had understood that they promised to accept donations only through a specific address, precisely so that everybody could check their accounting.   

But that is indeed an interesting philosophical question: how can we get to trust a Foundation devoted to the cause of a trustless anonymous payment system.   

The question is, why do we need a foundation and what has having one done for Bitcoin? Look at the bylaws of the foundation. Specifically, the permanent founding members list. Do you trust an organization with members that can't be removed?

[duke1839]

100k for just one year?  You have to pay again next year to maintain your membership?  That's gonna add up quickly.  I would think 100k would get you a lifetime membership but to each his own. 

[charleshoskinson]

I've Tl;DRed this thread. Bruno did you really pay 100k to become a platinum sponsor of the foundation?

[Cameltoemcgee]

No he didn't, Thread is well worth a read.... seriously

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621770.msg6891010#msg6891010

for the TLDR

[duke1839]

No he didn't, Thread is well worth a read.... seriously

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621770.msg6891010#msg6891010

for the TLDR

Thank you for that.  I completely misunderstood the OP.

[charleshoskinson]

Damn, slick PG. Good work. But honestly is anyone surprised about the BCF being corrupt?

[bigasic]

Sounds like a great Idea.. Maybe I should do the same. It looks like anyone can claim that they paid that amount, so why not? Im not sure what to think about bitcoin foundation.

[2dogs]

Im not sure what to think about bitcoin foundation.

I don't want them representing me.
PG proves himself to be an real gumshoe and digs up the dirt that needs sunshine for disinfection.
The Bitcoin Foundation needs to go away - who gave them power to represent Bitcoin, anyway?

The fact that Andreas Antonolpoulos quit the Bitcoin Foundation says it all.

[Shallow]

Damn, slick PG. Good work. But honestly is anyone surprised about the BCF being corrupt?

I am surprised that Gavin Anderson is working for the Bitcoin Foundatin.

[QuestionAuthority]

Im not sure what to think about bitcoin foundation.

I don't want them representing me.
PG proves himself to be an real gumshoe and digs up the dirt that needs sunshine for disinfection.
The Bitcoin Foundation needs to go away - who gave them power to represent Bitcoin, anyway?

The fact that Andreas Antonolpoulos quit the Bitcoin Foundation says it all.

All of the "believers" that were here when they formed it gave them the power by giving them the membership fees. There were many more people that refused to join (like me). They made their forum closed to everyone but members and secretly plot the direction Bitcoin is headed. We commoners must wait for a foundation member to grace us with information or leak it to the press before we know anything. They don't represent all Bitcoiners. They don't even represent them just in the U.S.

Respect to Andreas Antonolpoulos for rebelling against the royal family.

[Spendulus]

Im not sure what to think about bitcoin foundation.

I don't want them representing me.
PG proves himself to be an real gumshoe and digs up the dirt that needs sunshine for disinfection.
The Bitcoin Foundation needs to go away - who gave them power to represent Bitcoin, anyway?

The fact that Andreas Antonolpoulos quit the Bitcoin Foundation says it all.

All of the "believers" that were here when they formed it gave them the power by giving them the membership fees. There were many more people that refused to join (like me). They made their forum closed to everyone but members and secretly plot the direction Bitcoin is headed. We commoners must wait for a foundation member to grace us with information or leak it to the press before we know anything. They don't represent all Bitcoiners. They don't even represent them just in the U.S.

Respect to Andreas Antonolpoulos for rebelling against the royal family.

Probably it would be nice to have an organization of USERS and CONSUMERS of bitcoin.  Just to make clear the differentials.

[inBitweTrust]

Probably it would be nice to have an organization of USERS and CONSUMERS of bitcoin.  Just to make clear the differentials.

So, the answer is we already have this organization and its called bitcointalk?

[moriartybitcoin]

you paid $100k to join this corrupt and pathetic organization? I don't believe it.