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[MMXIV]

There will be another raffle soon to hold you guys over while I finish working on the things we haven't announced yet  

I did break my phone, waiting on a new one to get here. It has a lot of my 2FA information, as well as a lot of other contacts, emails and info that I need to keep making good progress on the new uses for MMXIV. They say it will be here in a few days, but that was on Monday  

Also, don't forget...as long as you had at least 1 entry into the first raffle, you get 1 automatically for free into the second  


Anyone experiencing UI bugs...

It seems like these only happen the first few times you stake. I have seen most of what you guys are saying myself, but I haven't had any of those display issues for a while now. A quick client restart (or debug -> getinfo) will always get you the correct balance

Coins are staying in Stake so long, now, because the network is moving strictly based on PoS, there is no more PoW. So when very few people are staking, the network will crawl

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[devvienuis]

Anyways: NEW PROBLEM!!

PoS is not working correctly...

Symptoms noticed:
suddenly my
Saldo=0
Stake=0
Unconfirmed=0
Amount of Transactoins=2 (and I could still see them in the Transactions list too!)

Gave me a scare, so I shut down the wallet.

I restarted and Stake was back at 1.802737 BUT...

Not staking because you don't have mature coins...

I had 1 successful stake before all was 0... 7b94ea66990694f7d626105b4b9d36cbf0826c5faa3f8ae51c6cb72b09d4b81c
After that (and shutting down the wallet), nothing got minted... I don't know how long to maturity, but if it resets every time minting has been done... Will take a long time to get profit from 50% stake ;p

And while I am at it... Should I keep the wallet always open OR can I open it once every so often for same minting returns...?

Devvie

twitter.com/devnullius

dont worry, its just the qt-display, all things are happening allright.
You can ensure that (just for your peace in mind) by opening the Debug Konsole and typing "getinfo".
There you can see, wihch coins are staking. I realised that this displayproblem gets better after a few starts.

anyway it looks more frightening than it is
Also  the first two or three stakes beeing zero, seem to be normal, i had them also at the first start, but then never again.
You may even experience the wallet claiming not to stake, because its locked, though you already unlocked it.
This is the same display problem, in fact all processes are running and working smooth wile the dsisplay gives sometimes strange views

hope that helps
Matthias

Thank you for the feedback. Ok, I'll believe there's a bug in the GUI and ignore it. But staking is not taking place, not even 0-transactions. I only had 1 stake, some 12 hours after I first received my MMXIV2.

Results console:

Code:

"version" : "v1.0.1.0-unk-beta",
"protocolversion" : 60005,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 0.00000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 1.80273700,
"blocks" : 10128,
"moneysupply" : 2032.31238700,
"connections" : 16,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "83.86.92.116",
"difficulty" : 55.68061811,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1407988769,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""

So if I understand correct, it's even worse... While my GUI shows my coins to be there, the wallet thinks I'm emptied out!!!! W T F...!

So yeah, this helped A LOT ♥

NOW what do I do?

Devvie

PS: last block was 1 hour ago... So I'll shut down the client once more and see what happens :s

Peace!


POST-EDIT: after starting the wallet:

Code:

"version" : "v1.0.1.0-unk-beta",
"protocolversion" : 60005,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 0.00000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 1.80273700,
"blocks" : 10128,
"moneysupply" : 2032.31238700,
"connections" : 7,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "83.86.92.116",
"difficulty" : 55.68061811,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1407988769,
"keypoolsize" : 102,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : "Info: Minting suspended due to locked wallet."

Unlocking it with GUI:

Code:


{
"balance" : 0.00000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 1.80273700,
"blocks" : 10128,
"moneysupply" : 2032.31238700,
"connections" : 8,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "83.86.92.116",
"difficulty" : 55.68061811,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1407988769,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}

Now wallet is not 1 hour behind, but suddenly it is SIX hours...

ERGO: this coin is gone. Nobody is mining, nobody is confirming I suspect that PoS won't happen without mining transactions for this reason either?

Catching up on other comments...

2nd POST-EDIT: Ok, wallet synced within the minute after posting. So that's good. Still no PoS rewards! I will wait another 12 hours...
GUI: not staking because you don't have mature coins
Console:

Code:

"balance" : 0.00000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 1.80273700,

[MMXIV]

Results console:
"version" : "v1.0.1.0-unk-beta",
"protocolversion" : 60005,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 0.00000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 1.80273700,
"blocks" : 10128,
"moneysupply" : 2032.31238700,
"connections" : 16,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "83.86.92.116",
"difficulty" : 55.68061811,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1407988769,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""

So if I understand correct, it's even worse... While my GUI shows my coins to be there, the wallet thinks I'm emptied out!!!! W T F...!

So yeah, this helped A LOT ♥

NOW what do I do?

Devvie

PS: last block was 1 hour ago... So I'll shut down the client once more and see what happens :s

Peace!

No, you're good. Stake is the balance that is mature (eligible to stake), balance is the balance that is not mature to stake (spendable coins)

However, just because you are able to stake doesn't mean you will right away. Each staking block is like a lottery. Sometimes you will stake right away, sometimes it will take a while

[Phosphorous]

So I'm seeing something I am curious about. Say I started with 10 coins. I then earn a stake of 0.2 coins. And perhaps I receive a pool payout of 0.3 coins later that day. But now the age of the 10 coins is different than the 0.2 coins and the 0.3 coins.

So at some point, the 10 coins go to stake again but the 0.2 and 0.3 remain in my balance.

But then I think the 10 coins will generate another stake, let's say 0.2 again, and then the initial 0.2 and 0.3 will mature and I'll have 0.5 coins staking (perhaps at different times) and a lot of 10 and 0.2 coins in the balance. So I think you see where I'm going, is that there will be an increasing amount of "odd small lots" of coins staking and rotating through the process.

Is there any process by which the coins can all consolidate for the purpose of staking? Or will there be an increasing number of subsequently smaller lots of coins moving through the staking process and earning ever proportionately smaller stakes?

[MMXIV]

So I'm seeing something I am curious about. Say I started with 10 coins. I then earn a stake of 0.2 coins. And perhaps I receive a pool payout of 0.3 coins later that day. But now the age of the 10 coins is different than the 0.2 coins and the 0.3 coins.

So at some point, the 10 coins go to stake again but the 0.2 and 0.3 remain in my balance.

But then I think the 10 coins will generate another stake, let's say 0.2 again, and then the initial 0.2 and 0.3 will mature and I'll have 0.5 coins staking (perhaps at different times) and a lot of 10 and 0.2 coins in the balance. So I think you see where I'm going, is that there will be an increasing amount of "odd small lots" of coins staking and rotating through the process.

Is there any process by which the coins can all consolidate for the purpose of staking? Or will there be an increasing number of subsequently smaller lots of coins moving through the staking process and earning ever proportionately smaller stakes?

Send them to one address all at once

[Mortimer452]

So I'm seeing something I am curious about. Say I started with 10 coins. I then earn a stake of 0.2 coins. And perhaps I receive a pool payout of 0.3 coins later that day. But now the age of the 10 coins is different than the 0.2 coins and the 0.3 coins.

So at some point, the 10 coins go to stake again but the 0.2 and 0.3 remain in my balance.

But then I think the 10 coins will generate another stake, let's say 0.2 again, and then the initial 0.2 and 0.3 will mature and I'll have 0.5 coins staking (perhaps at different times) and a lot of 10 and 0.2 coins in the balance. So I think you see where I'm going, is that there will be an increasing amount of "odd small lots" of coins staking and rotating through the process.

Is there any process by which the coins can all consolidate for the purpose of staking? Or will there be an increasing number of subsequently smaller lots of coins moving through the staking process and earning ever proportionately smaller stakes?

Unfortunately that is pretty much how staking works.  You can, periodically, transfer your entire balance to another wallet, or to Bittrex and back, to "re-consolidate" your coins.

[Karn]

To the Person mining with 1EzUuYNmcVs5v1K6rww9wp4cqv8vbsi7J.  This is an old address, please use your new address (starts with an "M") or you will not be paid.


Also, if you have not recieved a payment for the lastest shifts after the switch to PoS, you have to have a balance > 0.01 before you can be paid.  I am keeping a sheet with payouts owed.  That to is on the todo list for coding.

That was me totally forgot to change my bat files, sent you an email with new addy MjYmkvTatZ1ryoyMHBdXUTBwMSZQgjz2Qp

Please PM me your private key to go with your old addy since anyone can claim that that is their address.

oh, and sig updated, thanks for the reminder Phosphorous .

I pm'ed you what I hope was the key, had to look up what it was and how to find it

[Phosphorous]

So I'm seeing something I am curious about. Say I started with 10 coins. I then earn a stake of 0.2 coins. And perhaps I receive a pool payout of 0.3 coins later that day. But now the age of the 10 coins is different than the 0.2 coins and the 0.3 coins.

So at some point, the 10 coins go to stake again but the 0.2 and 0.3 remain in my balance.

But then I think the 10 coins will generate another stake, let's say 0.2 again, and then the initial 0.2 and 0.3 will mature and I'll have 0.5 coins staking (perhaps at different times) and a lot of 10 and 0.2 coins in the balance. So I think you see where I'm going, is that there will be an increasing amount of "odd small lots" of coins staking and rotating through the process.

Is there any process by which the coins can all consolidate for the purpose of staking? Or will there be an increasing number of subsequently smaller lots of coins moving through the staking process and earning ever proportionately smaller stakes?

Unfortunately that is pretty much how staking works.  You can, periodically, transfer your entire balance to another wallet, or to Bittrex and back, to "re-consolidate" your coins.

Thanks for the explanation. Is there any reason to? Yesterday I got 7 stakes, all of the same size. Would I have received fewer stakes of a larger size if the balance was "consolidated" or is there any advantage to one approach vs another?

[MMXIV]

So I'm seeing something I am curious about. Say I started with 10 coins. I then earn a stake of 0.2 coins. And perhaps I receive a pool payout of 0.3 coins later that day. But now the age of the 10 coins is different than the 0.2 coins and the 0.3 coins.

So at some point, the 10 coins go to stake again but the 0.2 and 0.3 remain in my balance.

But then I think the 10 coins will generate another stake, let's say 0.2 again, and then the initial 0.2 and 0.3 will mature and I'll have 0.5 coins staking (perhaps at different times) and a lot of 10 and 0.2 coins in the balance. So I think you see where I'm going, is that there will be an increasing amount of "odd small lots" of coins staking and rotating through the process.

Is there any process by which the coins can all consolidate for the purpose of staking? Or will there be an increasing number of subsequently smaller lots of coins moving through the staking process and earning ever proportionately smaller stakes?

Unfortunately that is pretty much how staking works.  You can, periodically, transfer your entire balance to another wallet, or to Bittrex and back, to "re-consolidate" your coins.

Thanks for the explanation. Is there any reason to? Yesterday I got 7 stakes, all of the same size. Would I have received fewer stakes of a larger size if the balance was "consolidated" or is there any advantage to one approach vs another?

When you move your coins, you are resetting your timers, so I would do it as seldom as possible

[MMXIV]

Sometime tomorrow (not telling you when) I'll be picking a random address from pool.mmxivcoin.com to give 1 TH of SHA power to for 24 hours

[Karn]

Sometime tomorrow (not telling you when) I'll be picking a random address from pool.mmxivcoin.com to give 1 TH of SHA power to for 24 hours

Very cool, always some thing going on

[Phosphorous]

So I'm seeing something I am curious about. Say I started with 10 coins. I then earn a stake of 0.2 coins. And perhaps I receive a pool payout of 0.3 coins later that day. But now the age of the 10 coins is different than the 0.2 coins and the 0.3 coins.

So at some point, the 10 coins go to stake again but the 0.2 and 0.3 remain in my balance.

But then I think the 10 coins will generate another stake, let's say 0.2 again, and then the initial 0.2 and 0.3 will mature and I'll have 0.5 coins staking (perhaps at different times) and a lot of 10 and 0.2 coins in the balance. So I think you see where I'm going, is that there will be an increasing amount of "odd small lots" of coins staking and rotating through the process.

Is there any process by which the coins can all consolidate for the purpose of staking? Or will there be an increasing number of subsequently smaller lots of coins moving through the staking process and earning ever proportionately smaller stakes?

Unfortunately that is pretty much how staking works.  You can, periodically, transfer your entire balance to another wallet, or to Bittrex and back, to "re-consolidate" your coins.

Thanks for the explanation. Is there any reason to? Yesterday I got 7 stakes, all of the same size. Would I have received fewer stakes of a larger size if the balance was "consolidated" or is there any advantage to one approach vs another?

When you move your coins, you are resetting your timers, so I would do it as seldom as possible

OK, but it was also explained that you had to keep the qt client open to stake. So what is the real effect of closing and re-opening the qt client?

[szenekonzept]

So I'm seeing something I am curious about. Say I started with 10 coins. I then earn a stake of 0.2 coins. And perhaps I receive a pool payout of 0.3 coins later that day. But now the age of the 10 coins is different than the 0.2 coins and the 0.3 coins.

So at some point, the 10 coins go to stake again but the 0.2 and 0.3 remain in my balance.

But then I think the 10 coins will generate another stake, let's say 0.2 again, and then the initial 0.2 and 0.3 will mature and I'll have 0.5 coins staking (perhaps at different times) and a lot of 10 and 0.2 coins in the balance. So I think you see where I'm going, is that there will be an increasing amount of "odd small lots" of coins staking and rotating through the process.

Is there any process by which the coins can all consolidate for the purpose of staking? Or will there be an increasing number of subsequently smaller lots of coins moving through the staking process and earning ever proportionately smaller stakes?

Unfortunately that is pretty much how staking works.  You can, periodically, transfer your entire balance to another wallet, or to Bittrex and back, to "re-consolidate" your coins.

Thanks for the explanation. Is there any reason to? Yesterday I got 7 stakes, all of the same size. Would I have received fewer stakes of a larger size if the balance was "consolidated" or is there any advantage to one approach vs another?

When you move your coins, you are resetting your timers, so I would do it as seldom as possible

OK, but it was also explained that you had to keep the qt client open to stake. So what is the real effect of closing and re-opening the qt client?

the common way to function is(@MMXIV correct me if i am wrong) is that you don't loose coinage but staking time, so when you oben it up again you beginn where you stopped staking, but you did not make any progress in between. For oler Iplementations, there hasn't been any "staking-time", what turned out badly, because people just had to open their wallet once a month and harnest their stakes. Newer implementations require you to "stake" and contribute a certain amound of time to securing the network

[MMXIV]

So I'm seeing something I am curious about. Say I started with 10 coins. I then earn a stake of 0.2 coins. And perhaps I receive a pool payout of 0.3 coins later that day. But now the age of the 10 coins is different than the 0.2 coins and the 0.3 coins.

So at some point, the 10 coins go to stake again but the 0.2 and 0.3 remain in my balance.

But then I think the 10 coins will generate another stake, let's say 0.2 again, and then the initial 0.2 and 0.3 will mature and I'll have 0.5 coins staking (perhaps at different times) and a lot of 10 and 0.2 coins in the balance. So I think you see where I'm going, is that there will be an increasing amount of "odd small lots" of coins staking and rotating through the process.

Is there any process by which the coins can all consolidate for the purpose of staking? Or will there be an increasing number of subsequently smaller lots of coins moving through the staking process and earning ever proportionately smaller stakes?

Unfortunately that is pretty much how staking works.  You can, periodically, transfer your entire balance to another wallet, or to Bittrex and back, to "re-consolidate" your coins.

Thanks for the explanation. Is there any reason to? Yesterday I got 7 stakes, all of the same size. Would I have received fewer stakes of a larger size if the balance was "consolidated" or is there any advantage to one approach vs another?

When you move your coins, you are resetting your timers, so I would do it as seldom as possible

OK, but it was also explained that you had to keep the qt client open to stake. So what is the real effect of closing and re-opening the qt client?

the common way to function is(@MMXIV correct me if i am wrong) is that you don't loose coinage but staking time, so when you oben it up again you beginn where you stopped staking, but you did not make any progress in between. For oler Iplementations, there hasn't been any "staking-time", what turned out badly, because people just had to open their wallet once a month and harnest their stakes. Newer implementations require you to "stake" and contribute a certain amound of time to securing the network

Right, coinage should be unaffected. Only if a staking block comes through during that 2 seconds (chances are it won't) do you lose a little stake time. Just do it fast and you'll be fine

Or you can just do debug -> getinfo to double check that everything is correct

[MMXIV]

I changed my mind on the free 1 TH today

Instead I just sent every address on the pool 1 full MMXIV. So that's like .12 BTC worth, much more valuable than 1 TH to one person 

Enjoy and thanks for mining with pool.mmxivcoin.com!

[MMXIV]

We just hit over 2000 blocks on SHA this shift for the multipool. New record!?

[Karn]

I changed my mind on the free 1 TH today

Instead I just sent every address on the pool 1 full MMXIV. So that's like .12 BTC worth, much more valuable than 1 TH to one person 

Enjoy and thanks for mining with pool.mmxivcoin.com!

Hell yea thanks man

[Karn]

To the Person mining with 1EzUuYNmcVs5v1K6rww9wp4cqv8vbsi7J.  This is an old address, please use your new address (starts with an "M") or you will not be paid.


Also, if you have not recieved a payment for the lastest shifts after the switch to PoS, you have to have a balance > 0.01 before you can be paid.  I am keeping a sheet with payouts owed.  That to is on the todo list for coding.

That was me totally forgot to change my bat files, sent you an email with new addy MjYmkvTatZ1ryoyMHBdXUTBwMSZQgjz2Qp

Please PM me your private key to go with your old addy since anyone can claim that that is their address.

oh, and sig updated, thanks for the reminder Phosphorous .

I pm'ed you what I hope was the key, had to look up what it was and how to find it

Was that the right key, if not I have no idea how to find the key you need. Let me know

[szenekonzept]

argh my miner fucked me up does not connect to the sha pool i missed the coin i guess
anyway great giveway (i'll try not to feel greedy ....) 

[Karn]

Pool seems to be having problems today. Im only connecting sporadically