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May 30, 2014, 02:09:32 AM
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All I know is my wallet will not sync now and I have payouts going out from Dedicated pool to it.... any reasons why its not syncing?

The coin is dead.  What are you syncing for?

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May 30, 2014, 02:10:09 AM
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Binaryclock of dedicated pools, is a rare fellow around these parts. God broke the mold when he made binaryclock. He has always been on his chat helping the new guys, and doing what ever he can for the miners, and coin devs with their problems. This is his 24/7 job, and he has made it to these levels for being honest and upfront. He has always been on the up and up. Makes my blood curdle when people talk bad about him. They just don't know and rather troll.
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May 30, 2014, 02:10:38 AM
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You are wrong.  Dev has the premine 100%.

http://dedicatedpool.com
Ryan, dedicatedpool.com support/admin
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You are wrong.  Dev has the premine 100%.

You are wrong.  Dev had the premine 100%. - before he dumped it on cryptoaltex

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May 30, 2014, 02:11:20 AM
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Look at dedicatedpool's block statistics, every single block was mined on their pool for the first 98 blocks(!!!), including blocks 1 and 2. For any pool operator this should ring alarm bell that something is fishy about their blockchain. However, dedicatepool insisted that they are on the correct blockchain and used their reputation to force everyone to jump on their incorrect blockchain, thereby stealing the premine (I am not saying they did it because of the premine, probably they did it to get as much hashrate as possible, but this is reckless behavior).
Transaction that I gave above are from the alternative chain that is now not accepted by community and that shows what dev's premine address is, as block 1 and 2 went to this address. In order to see these transactions you would have to download that blockchain by using OP nodes and don't sync with dedicatedpool.

Blocks 1-60 were part of the premine. They went to the DEV PREMINE ADDRESS (look at the picture of the wallet in the OP).

After the premine was done, sure dedicated probably made a pretty decent headstart on the mining, but they didn't do anything as you are suggesting.
This was supposed to be, however dedicatedpool jumped start on the blockchain before nodes were up and running and they mined every single block for the first 98 blocks!!! Take a look at block statistics for dedicatedpool
http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&next=1
As you can see block 2 of 250k was also mined on dedicatedpool and EVERY SINGLE BLOCK FROM BLOCK 1 UNTIL BLOCK 98.
Every honest pool operator would notice that something is wrong with his blockchain when you are the only one on it but binaryclock insisted that dedicatedpool was on the correct blockchain and used his reputation to force everyone to use their forked blockchain.


No this is wrong.  Merx (Trademybit) and I had exchanged nodes before the coin start.  Trademybit dumped 30gh/s on it, and dedicated had 15gh/s on it.  We had 10 connections then suddenly merx (trademybit) and I both forked at the start.

We noticed the fork around block 138 (about 3-4 minutes in) and killed our blockchain, wallet.dat, and resynced to the real chain.

Once we came back up, i told all my users I'd grant them the forked coins and take the hit.  I noticed that my wallet was -255,000 coins and was like WTF?  I checked the mysql blocks and found one block was worth 250k, block number 3.  I deleted it from the mysql database and set all the orphaned blocks to confirmed so my users wouldn't be screwed out of the forked blocks.

The 250k premine was on a fork, when we resynced to the real chain that block was orphaned (well not really because I nuked my entire wallet.dat and started over along with a new blockchain.)


I have been outside with my son in the backyard cooking burgers around the fire and came back to all this FUD.  Here's the chat that transpired.


<binaryclock> What would happen if I put like 2gh/s of nicehash on ruby
<ThisWeeksCoin> It happened on IRC and I was like wtf
<binaryclock> i think everyone would be checking ruby twitter and ann like wtf
<binaryclock> trying to figure out what was announced
<macdever> binaryclock: i'd insist on tip payouts in ruby.
<triplef> binaryclock let me test it
<macdever> hahaha
<coinjohn> did the pastebin hit the ANN thread?
<binaryclock> what pastebin?
--> Guest41888 (~NatureTM@cpe-184-58-196-199.wi.res.rr.com) has joined ##dedicatedpool
<binaryclock> i've been away a lot today
<macdever> channel logs
<ThisWeeksCoin> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3gHAvAWb
<bluenotefan> Are people seriously so stupid that they think a "pre-mine" can be stolen?
<ThisWeeksCoin> Yeah
<ThisWeeksCoin> And they own exchanges.
<binaryclock> what
<ThisWeeksCoin> That's the funny part
<macdever> it wasn't stolen, it was accidently mined lol
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<Guest41888> can't a premine be stolen?
<bluenotefan> ugh
<macdever> because the devs only put up 1 node
<binaryclock> are they talking about our fork?
<ThisWeeksCoin> Premine can be stolen
<macdever> and they got attacked
<ThisWeeksCoin> Yeah bin
<binaryclock> haha
<ThisWeeksCoin> And they're talking a lot of crap
* Guest41888 is now known as Poolest
<binaryclock> someoen posted that to the forums?
<ThisWeeksCoin> Nah, screw it
<ThisWeeksCoin> Don't post it
<binaryclock> yeah there are people who hate me in this channel and they repost everything i say
<ThisWeeksCoin> Let them make a big buzz
<binaryclock> the europepool guys
<binaryclock> are here
<macdever> people love to repost shit from here on BCT
<ThisWeeksCoin> Then just go there and drop that pastebin
<binaryclock> and the DDoS'ers
<binaryclock> and the spammers
<binaryclock> hi mom
<bluenotefan> lol
<chiznitz> why would it only have gotten paid out to one person is what I'dlike to know
<ThisWeeksCoin> Dude. I hope that guy has good DDoS protection, for real
<binaryclock> I feel honored
<chiznitz> wouldn't everyone mining at dedicated only have gotten a share of it?
<chiznitz> or was it just found so quick nobody else did?
<merx> lol
<macdever> lol europepool fucking hates Dedicated
<binaryclock> yep
<merx> bglock
<coinjohn> binaryclock someone posted it and is blaming the pool for about 4-5 pages of the ANN thread
<merx> that block#2 was deleted right?
<macdever> arch nemesis hate
<binaryclock> yes
<merx> yea, figured as much
<macdever> Suchpool is friendly rivelry
<binaryclock> merx, it was on another fork anyways
<binaryclock> i deleted the entire blockchain and resyned
<binaryclock> here is my wallet

<ThisWeeksCoin> coinjohn, autos o paparas pou mou eipes, mh peis to onoma tou edw. Phge o amanos sto allo exchange chan kai eipe pws to dedi pool eklepse to premine apo to PURE
<binaryclock> Wallet Balance 166,894.59416111
<binaryclock> Locked for users 164,377.79004112
<binaryclock> Unconfirmed 66,250.00000000
<binaryclock> Liquid Assets 2,516.80411999
<binaryclock> PoS New Mint 66,250.00000000

<bluenotefan> well, to any of these fools that spread that shit, fuck em. feed em fish heads
<ThisWeeksCoin> ( sorry )
<macdever> rollie pollie fish heads
<coinjohn> binaryclock did the dev manage to get his premine in the end?
<binaryclock> hey look i'm finally back in the black for my liquid assets
<binaryclock> coinjohn, no idea
<binaryclock> we mined that on the fork
<binaryclock> not the real chain
<binaryclock> it orphaned

<chiznitz> binaryclock, can you see which user got the 250k block?
<binaryclock> they didn't get it
<binaryclock> i deleted it
<binaryclock> all the blocks up to 138 were oprhaned
<binaryclock> i granted them
<chiznitz> hrm
<binaryclock> and i took the hit
<binaryclock> but deleted block 2
<binaryclock> err 3

<chiznitz> so it went to the dev hardcoded and he shit on us?
<binaryclock> i have no idea i've been away
<ThisWeeksCoin> chiznitz, binary stole it and sold it in your exchange
<binaryclock> all i know is merx and i forked
<ThisWeeksCoin> Aren't you happy?
<macdever> pastebin that shit
<binaryclock> and on the fork we mined a premine block, 3
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<binaryclock> merx and i both deleted the fork dat
<binaryclock> and resynced to the real chain
<binaryclock> i had 100 orphans
--> Pipelines68 (~Poorcoine@12.80.96.58.static.exetel.com.au) has joined ##dedicatedpool
<binaryclock> but i granted the orphans to my users
* leptoon is now known as leptoon-AFK
<binaryclock> and took the hit
<chiznitz> lol such fail
<binaryclock> and deleted block 3
--> SterlingCapital (~Bob@50.185.241.233) has joined ##dedicatedpool
<chiznitz> you should go post before they tear you apart lol
<binaryclock> huh?
<binaryclock> why
<macdever> he doesn't even care
<binaryclock> let the trolls be trolls
<binaryclock> people who know the truth aren't stupid
<chiznitz> ok, but a lot of people are pissed at you and for no reason now
<binaryclock> then let someone else explain it
<merx> it blows over in 2 days when we're talking about the next release that forkede
<binaryclock> as soon as i come there they will start creating more fud
<coinjohn> lol that's for sure
* voldemort is now known as asoomisnotatrait
<binaryclock> comon how stupid can they be, all they have to do is look at the top wallet addresses
<binaryclock> does anyone have over 250k?
<binaryclock> Wallet Balance 166,894.59416111
<binaryclock> Locked for users 164,377.79004112
<binaryclock> Unconfirmed 66,250.00000000
<binaryclock> Liquid Assets 2,516.80411999
<binaryclock> PoS New Mint 66,250.00000000
<merx> all i know is my pool has about 100 blocks on each fork
<binaryclock> thats my wallet
<merx> so i just need to know which one to turn on
<merx> ;(
<binaryclock> if i had a premine block it'd be over 400k
<chiznitz> binaryclock, the guy dumped the 250k already Tongue
<binaryclock> ohh
<binaryclock> and they are blaming me?
<binaryclock> lel
<ThisWeeksCoin> [03:24] <+chiznitz> dedicated pool stole the premine for PURE
<ThisWeeksCoin> ^ Why dude?
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<macdever> you might as well buy a coin, then you can dump premine for real lol
<chiznitz> ThisWeeksCoin, thats what i was being told chill the fuck out jesus
<binaryclock> who is chiznitz anyways
<ThisWeeksCoin> And you gotta spread that on IRC?
<chiznitz> I came in here to talk about it
<triplef> WTF man
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<binaryclock> ThisWeeksCoin, let him talk, talking is good
<ThisWeeksCoin> You spread FUD, like a sheep
<triplef> ahahah
<triplef> wtf is this shit
<chiznitz> i'm sorry I had bad information and said something wrong
<chiznitz> but there are aout 100 forum posts saying it
<binaryclock> which exchange even has it up?
<chiznitz> and screenshots
<chiznitz> i do binaryclock
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<chiznitz> but i took it down
<binaryclock> which exchange
<chiznitz> cryptoaltex
<macdever> europex i think
<binaryclock> ahh love cryptoalex
<binaryclock> atlex*
<binaryclock> i used to trade BC on there i belive
<chiznitz> yah we were the first ones to list it
<binaryclock> yep^
<chiznitz> had our highest volume first two days open lol
<binaryclock> so can someone post me the FUD going on in the forums?
<chiznitz> sorry I posted that in bittrex, i was just going by lol thread
<binaryclock> let me have a look
<binaryclock> i'll decide if i want to reply to it or not
<binaryclock> i usually don't liek to feed the trolls
<kassado> chiznitz: add ruby plz
<HiDan> I've got popcorn and need something to read
<chiznitz> i'll make an apology post in a minute
<HiDan> so where is it?
<chiznitz> kassado, it'd be on there by now if this shit didn't happen lol
<macdever> i will transfer btc and buy ruby there
<kassado> what did I miss?
<binaryclock> kassado, they are blaming me that i stole the 250k premine
<binaryclock> because we mined it on the fork merx and i went on at the start
<binaryclock> stupid people :p
<kassado> ahahaha
<kassado> AGAIN?
<binaryclock> loool
<kassado> why is everyone losing their premine
<binaryclock> nono
<binaryclock> merx and i forked at block 1
<ThisWeeksCoin> I was the first one who managed that XD
<ThisWeeksCoin> * my dev
<binaryclock> and we mined the premine on the fork
<binaryclock> we deleted the blockchaina dn resyned
<binaryclock> then just for shits and giggles i posted the premine block from my sql
<binaryclock> before i nuked the entry
<binaryclock> my wallt was -255,000
<binaryclock> when i resynced
<kassado> and they are just freaking out over nothing?
<binaryclock> there are trolls in this channel
<Lutrollmysl> 47 cest quoi?
<chiznitz> kassado, someone dumped 250k
<binaryclock> and FUD everything
<chiznitz> the entire premine
<Lutrollmysl> mt
<kassado> how much btc was dumped on
<coinjohn> so, who got the premine on the correct fork afterwards?
<Lutrollmysl> where is it tradable?
<coinjohn> on cryptoaltex.com
<binaryclock> CoinAdd1ct, the dev
<coinjohn> i think
<chiznitz> not muh
<binaryclock> coinjohn, the dev
<chiznitz> 1.6 only
<triplef> 2 GIG on ruby incoming
<kassado> no biggie
<binaryclock> the dev dumped and they are trying to swing it around on us
<binaryclock> the trolls will do anything to try to bring down the big pool
<coinjohn> lol
<binaryclock> ddos, stratum spam, etc
<binaryclock> social engineering
<binaryclock> FUD
<chiznitz> binaryclock, i would just post what you said here and leave it at that
<binaryclock> why don't you?
<chiznitz> dev is an idiot for dumping so low lol
<binaryclock> if it comes from me it sounds like more fud
<triplef> lets fuck up ruby
<binaryclock> please copy and paste this
<triplef> binaryclock put 2 gig too on ruby
<triplef> i just put 1 gig for .45
<binaryclock> chiznitz, can you please copy this chat and post it?
<binaryclock> if i get involved, they attack me directly
<binaryclock> which is what they want
<DJgabbertron> hello
<chiznitz> i'll try, i' getting shit from wife
<chiznitz> trying to put daughter to bed and she's getting pissed i won't get off laptop
<coinjohn> guys, how can someone else except the dev have the premine? when even the OP has the precise amount of coins of the premine in a picture???
<binaryclock> coinjohn, they can't
<binaryclock> thats why a fork is a fork!




Thank you gentlemen,

http://dedicatedpool.com
Ryan, dedicatedpool.com support/admin
admin@dedicatedpool.com / IRC on freenode ##dedicatedpool


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May 30, 2014, 02:11:26 AM
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All I know is my wallet will not sync now and I have payouts going out from Dedicated pool to it.... any reasons why its not syncing?


Coz you are on original blockchain
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May 30, 2014, 02:12:21 AM
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1
Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin.
In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page:
http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656

Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool.

They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev
everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid
Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake.
Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine.
I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up.

OK now if you want to remain ignorant, that is your choosing. The dedicated pool was controlled by loljosh. As a matter of fact he IS the dedicated pool. They perpetrated the same scam on LibertyCoin with a 24hash.com pool that disappeared into thin air without having made but a few payouts to miners. Who had the rest of the mined coins? That's right, loljosh and his accomplice, Templar 77/ Carlos R. Torres Ferguson. Follow their trail, they have quite an active one full of skeletons of shit coins (scam jobs).



OK so if you are saying that these same people are behind dedicated pool what is your proof?  

 By the same token.. why do you defend them so hard?

Because I'm their lawyer!  Joking aside I'm just annoyed that the finger of blame isn't being pointed at the developer.

 No because you are defending a pool who has repeatedly stole in the past. You sound like their fucking lawyer.

I was not aware of them stealing in the past.  I am only speaking from my own experience.  If you have a problem with my opinion go fuck yourself (Oh you are already).
Guy's pay attention here.. the biggest proponent of dedicated pools is Soul_eater_123, He has been a member here for barely over 3 months. Track dedicated pools timeline. Check this asswipes history, and post tendencies.  Scrapp never mislead, or do wrong. I never mined this coin, in fact by the time I learned of it this shit already went down.

 Facts are facts.

 Where is the dev? Why is dedicated pool tied to yet another scandalous coin? Shit starts adding up. I have seen them do this kind of bullshit on various coins. Oh yea, they have a sweet logo, and their pools appear to work, and do minimally. That in itself is the facade.

Fuck you cartoon character.  I lost out as much as anyone.  For all i know you are the dev.  The issue is clear now.  So stop spamming with your BS or are you disappointed you cashed out your premine for such a pathetic amount.  If you didn't mine this coin - why the hell are you here?

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May 30, 2014, 02:12:27 AM
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i can not receive the coins pool send to me.why??
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May 30, 2014, 02:12:37 AM
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All I know is my wallet will not sync now and I have payouts going out from Dedicated pool to it.... any reasons why its not syncing?

The coin is dead.  What are you syncing for?
really? why is there over a 1000 mining on Dedicated pool then? have I missed something  lol was at dinner earlier

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May 30, 2014, 02:12:51 AM
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I also lost quite a bit of Purecoins today.  How do I get them back?

I like the coins numbers and want to see it continue, but damn, that killed me today.

If the dev or someone could please PM me and let me know how to recover my losses I would appreciate it.
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May 30, 2014, 02:14:38 AM
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I also lost quite a bit of Purecoins today.  How do I get them back?

I like the coins numbers and want to see it continue, but damn, that killed me today.



Sorry,there is more of us......and we get NOTHING back
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May 30, 2014, 02:15:28 AM
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Catch up, mate - dev dumped his premine on Cryptoaltex - blamed Dedicated Pool (saying they stole it) - Cryptoaltex had to suspend trading and we all got screwed.  Delete the wallet and rescan it for malware.

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May 30, 2014, 02:16:30 AM
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I also lost quite a bit of Purecoins today.  How do I get them back?

I like the coins numbers and want to see it continue, but damn, that killed me today.



Sorry,there is more of us......and we get NOTHING back
I guess sent coins to non-syncing wallet are gone for good then? I did kill the payment address on d.pool for whatever its worth for the moment

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May 30, 2014, 02:16:56 AM
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I also lost quite a bit of Purecoins today.  How do I get them back?

I like the coins numbers and want to see it continue, but damn, that killed me today.

If the dev or someone could please PM me and let me know how to recover my losses I would appreciate it.

There is no coin guys. It's worthless.  Anyway - I give up!  Some people can't be helped.

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May 30, 2014, 02:17:48 AM
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Anyone else noticed the dev has been editing the OP once in a while (last change is way more recent than his last comment)? Not that it's not obvious now, but what a scammer… Shocked
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May 30, 2014, 02:18:05 AM
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Catch up, mate - dev dumped his premine on Cryptoaltex - blamed Dedicated Pool (saying they stole it) - Cryptoaltex had to suspend trading and we all got screwed.  Delete the wallet and rescan it for malware.
very interesting

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May 30, 2014, 02:18:14 AM
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Why is this thread for this shitcoin still popping up in my watched threads list?
I cant get it off here despite clicking on unwatch!  Angry

I wish i never posted here!  Tongue

Same here!  I keep getting pulled in by retarded posts - how do I kill it?

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May 30, 2014, 02:18:27 AM
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pfff ..this is going to madness.

Didn't see the post were the dev acused dedicated pool, i only saw this:

All losses will be covered with premine and bitcoins dev.

I'm sorry with all my heart.


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May 30, 2014, 02:18:57 AM
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i know, but pool transfer 1000 pure to my wallet, i want to get this amount

use conf file posted in 1st post
it will connect to 1 node and then discconect few times
give it like 10 minutes and it will eventually connect to more nodes

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May 30, 2014, 02:20:00 AM
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1
Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin.
In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page:
http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656

Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool.

They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev
everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid
Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake.
Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine.
I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up.

OK now if you want to remain ignorant, that is your choosing. The dedicated pool was controlled by loljosh. As a matter of fact he IS the dedicated pool. They perpetrated the same scam on LibertyCoin with a 24hash.com pool that disappeared into thin air without having made but a few payouts to miners. Who had the rest of the mined coins? That's right, loljosh and his accomplice, Templar 77/ Carlos R. Torres Ferguson. Follow their trail, they have quite an active one full of skeletons of shit coins (scam jobs).



OK so if you are saying that these same people are behind dedicated pool what is your proof?  

 By the same token.. why do you defend them so hard?

Because I'm their lawyer!  Joking aside I'm just annoyed that the finger of blame isn't being pointed at the developer.

 No because you are defending a pool who has repeatedly stole in the past. You sound like their fucking lawyer.

I was not aware of them stealing in the past.  I am only speaking from my own experience.  If you have a problem with my opinion go fuck yourself (Oh you are already).
Guy's pay attention here.. the biggest proponent of dedicated pools is Soul_eater_123, He has been a member here for barely over 3 months. Track dedicated pools timeline. Check this asswipes history, and post tendencies.  Scrapp never mislead, or do wrong. I never mined this coin, in fact by the time I learned of it this shit already went down.

 Facts are facts.

 Where is the dev? Why is dedicated pool tied to yet another scandalous coin? Shit starts adding up. I have seen them do this kind of bullshit on various coins. Oh yea, they have a sweet logo, and their pools appear to work, and do minimally. That in itself is the facade.
You're right man.

Because you think you know everything.

That's why I'm agreeing with your brainfarts.



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May 30, 2014, 02:20:28 AM
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sux woulda been nice

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