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July 12, 2014, 11:51:01 AM
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http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/wallets/dtm-beta/XC-v0.9.2.3x11-coin-1.0.zip




I have good news: Rev 2 Beta 2 is now on mainnet!


You can now download it from the url posted.

This is not the final Rev 2 app. Anon features are only accessible from the command line. However, decentralised trustless mixing is working through a simple rpc command via the debug console.

This is beta software. Please back up your wallet.dat before using it.  Also this release changes everything to XCurrency including the %appdata% directory

An updated UI will be released with the privacy mode available through the coin control page.

If your testing the distmix command, read the distmix.txt in the zip

PM me with any issues or questions

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Dan even said: This is not the final REV2 app.

I can explain his annoying. He failed to say: WHEN WILL BE RELEASED the next revision of the platform that 1) has plain one-click interface (GUI), 2) allows you to proceed

transactions in 3 minute instead of 30, 3) requires less than 550XC to run XC node + monitoring of nodes in the network, something like this

https://elbzo.net/masternodes.html, so all of that can attract investors and get them back to XC. This is not the final software, this is test version of alfa stage of unknown  

beta 0.000001 release
, and majority of people are not informed of this ''release''. Personally, i don't see the working links in OP, in twitter, official site. Links that you keeps

putting up are broken.


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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

























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July 12, 2014, 12:23:03 PM
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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Really? every single holder is w8ing like VULTURES to get their hands on frustrated 5 year olds' dumped coins. Please, PLZ do dump. Dump in the thousands if you can. I will go convert freaking FIAT to purchase your dump.

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July 12, 2014, 12:24:04 PM
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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Now that would be contrary to the information we've put out.

But hey, no-one has a monopoly on perceptions.

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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Really? every single holder is w8ing like VULTURES to get their hands on frustrated 5 year olds' dumped coins. Please, PLZ do dump. Dump in the thousands if you can. I will go convert freaking FIAT to purchase your dump.

I wasn't going to dump, maybe I should of said most people will dump instead of everyone.

























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July 12, 2014, 12:30:30 PM
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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Define 'completed', please.

Are you just looking for a UI for the trustless mixer option?

It's possible Dan could finish it by this weekend. Encrypted messaging testing is scheduled first so I'd say it's unlikely, but who knows? Dan does have a reputation for surprises and working quickly.

Seeing as how delivering this feature would be over-delivering/delivering early, I don't see how not delivering this feature at this time would lead to a dump.

But if a dump happens, I'll be there with low buy orders ready to catch the cheap XC.

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July 12, 2014, 12:33:22 PM
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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Really? every single holder is w8ing like VULTURES to get their hands on frustrated 5 year olds' dumped coins. Please, PLZ do dump. Dump in the thousands if you can. I will go convert freaking FIAT to purchase your dump.

I wasn't going to dump, maybe I should of said most people will dump instead of everyone.

So we now know that a REV2 was priced at least at 300k+(MP high volume, but not super high) which was abruptly stopped because of the delayed release(and RC form instead of final). If weak hands got frustrated and dumped, we know for sure that anyone buying at current prices or lower, will be rewarded with at least 100% profit. Taking into account our experience with the XC team, the scheduled roadmap, and the lack of serious competition(talking about new potential releases not current), I feel that estimation is accurate enough.

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I haven't seen an announcement from Dan saying here is REV2 complete. There is no anon UI.

Again, there is no reason for you to be expecting an anon UI at this point. It was never promised to be delivered with rev2, in fact on the roadmap it clearly says that rev2.5 will include an updated wallet UI. If dan brings the anonymity features into the UI before rev2.5, then he is over-delivering.

Correct: the UI update comes with Rev 2.5 as per the roadmap. However we'd like to avoid people having to use command lines to send XC because it's unnecessarily complicated, and so a nice little "anon" button could come in handy...

We're aware that there was a general perception that 7 July would bring a "completed" Rev 2. Perhaps this was a reasonable enough assumption given that the roadmap didn't specify grades of completion, but just said "Rev 2". However these "rev" things are milestones upon a continuous development path, and the entire project is under development up to and beyond Rev 3. If you recall, when Rev 1.5 came out there were several updates after the initial one; you can expect the same thing around every milestone. Basically the idea of a milestone is simply to have implemented a certain type or layer of technology at that point. But this doesn't imply that there'll be no refinements after the milestone. In fact, after Rev 3 there'll be the big bounty to provably break XC's anonymity. So the process of development is a continuous one, and "revs" are just markers to designate the stage we're at.

On the other hand it's still in our interest to reach a milestone with a stable and user-friendly app rather than a confusing one. We'll always aim at this - if not more. However it's not considered a failure to deliver a new technology at a milestone that isn't entirely finished; in fact, "revs" are by nature unfinished.

So there's a distinction between a rev and an official public launch, at which point everything will need to be stable and ready for bulletproofing tests.

Anyway, expect updates on a regular basis, and - if Dan's past progress is anything to go by - the occasional surprise.





Let's just put this in perspective:

We delivered a world-first this week. Until now, no-one's been able to use a mediator to pass on information without having to trust the mediator. Henceforth XC has trustless mediators. It's pretty incredible.

When Satoshi invented Bitcoin, he succeeded in solving the Byzantine Generals' problem for the first time. However, Bitcoin doesn't provide anonymity of a sort suitable for several common use-cases. So several anoncoins introduced supernodes that mix and forward transactions in order to provide the necessary anonymity. But when you introduce transaction-forwarding for the sake of privacy, you introduce the Byzantine Generals' problem all over again in a new way.

So Dan comes along and solves the Byzantine Generals' problem, in 6 weeks, through multipath.

If any of you are feeling some sense of disappointment about this, I'm at a loss as to why.




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July 12, 2014, 12:40:33 PM
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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Really? every single holder is w8ing like VULTURES to get their hands on frustrated 5 year olds' dumped coins. Please, PLZ do dump. Dump in the thousands if you can. I will go convert freaking FIAT to purchase your dump.

oh... keep on mind that if everyone starts dumping, this will hurt you first of all, and afterwards would be problematically to sell The lower price goes, the more time needed to

recover

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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Really? every single holder is w8ing like VULTURES to get their hands on frustrated 5 year olds' dumped coins. Please, PLZ do dump. Dump in the thousands if you can. I will go convert freaking FIAT to purchase your dump.

I can see XC easily going under 90k again. It can be wiser to dump now and rebuy sub 90k. People are losing patience, they've been holding for 1.5 months, some bought in for 300k sat.
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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Really? every single holder is w8ing like VULTURES to get their hands on frustrated 5 year olds' dumped coins. Please, PLZ do dump. Dump in the thousands if you can. I will go convert freaking FIAT to purchase your dump.

I can see XC easily going under 90k again. It can be wiser to dump now and rebuy sub 90k. People are losing patience, they've been holding for 1.5 months, some bought in for 300k sat.

Losing patience for what though? XC has delivered trustless decentralised mixing. I mean, what more could you possibly want?

I'm also unaware of anything that could've led people to believe that some sort of Rev 2 milestone was happening this weekend. Where are you getting your expectations from?


To my mind the price will just continue to raise its floor gradually until Rev 2.5. All's well in XC land, and is just getting better.

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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Really? every single holder is w8ing like VULTURES to get their hands on frustrated 5 year olds' dumped coins. Please, PLZ do dump. Dump in the thousands if you can. I will go convert freaking FIAT to purchase your dump.

I can see XC easily going under 90k again. It can be wiser to dump now and rebuy sub 90k. People are losing patience, they've been holding for 1.5 months, some bought in for 300k sat.

and in the scheme of things that's not a lot considering what has been delivered so far.
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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

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So this week we:


- invented trustless decentralised mixing

- added our first two XC Foundation members, who'll be deploying two-way XC/Bitcoin ATMs, an XC crowdfunding platform, and of course attracting investors.

- added Rob Kremers (Microsoft, Adidas) on the marketing front


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All i'm gonna say is if a completed version of REV2 in not released this weekend then expect everyone to start dumping.

Really? every single holder is w8ing like VULTURES to get their hands on frustrated 5 year olds' dumped coins. Please, PLZ do dump. Dump in the thousands if you can. I will go convert freaking FIAT to purchase your dump.

oh... keep on mind that if everyone starts dumping, this will hurt you first of all, and afterwards would be problematically to sell The lower price goes, the more time needed to

recover

oh.... but I only wish they would dump. I would just buy and mine at multipool. Oh I so wish they d dump.

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2. Be gracious to "enemies"
3. Completely ignore spam, FUD, and abusive comments
4. If you respond to anything with the above in it, erase the offending remarks from your reply before posting, because leaving it in will allow it to incite further offense. (Also Teka might delete your post.)
5. Don't ever spread FUD elsewhere. Respect other projects. XC doesn't need to compete with them; it's strong enough on its own.
6. Be patient with newbies. There'll be a lot of them arriving as XC grows.
7. The way you treat people makes up 95% of what's relevant in a post; the information supplied is 5%.
8. The way XC appears to the world depends on the way you are to other people.
9. Be aware of the difference between what you perceive and what you infer from your perceptions (e.g. statements vs. the intentions suggested by statements).
10. You devalue yourself by being aggressive/insulting/etc.
11. If we don't treat opponents well, then we just take on their mode of interacting instead of imparting our mode of interacting.
12. So be good to each other.
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Let's not forget PoBC, NFL players, and Android wallets.



i bored to read this chat rumors who is those players, give me links to their twitters, where did you get this information? where they learned about xc? who did initially spread this gossip?

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Let's not forget PoBC, NFL players, and Android wallets.



i bored to read this chat rumors who is those players, give me links to their twitters, where did you get this information? where they learned about xc? who did initially spread this gossip?

I did, and I'm from XC.

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Coin Control Basic guide                                                                XChat address/private/instant/absolute: XSKu1fpwvRcAekfK91qVHi51Tgz4ckoA91
XChat public key: zcfx74j4fFK9hW7rQniTvLyDyXd9SyRCrncP9vdukbVT
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